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Steroids general

Bunk roids and petite Paki gfs

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>>39108528
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>>39113252
fuck you with your faggot aesthetics. He was never meant to look good. But somehow his sperm juiced all over your brain and you now crave to suck his dick. I don't blame you for this. But get a grip

>butt muhh zyzz motivational videoss

have you seen what he was on? If i were doing such doses i would look like markus ruhl and phil heath combined.

>>39113259
Pics or it didn't happen homo.

NO PICS = DYEL
NO FACE PICS = UGLY
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fuck me that op is hot

where's my tiny 90 pounds 4'11 gf
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He's a big guy
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Lifting w/o caffein again, feels good this time. I think I finally broke the curse of being addicted to it.
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>>39113273
why are all the petite girls so hard to get? are all the boys so desperate about them?
I pretty much end up dating girls that are 5'7++. Don't think I ever dated a 4'11 or something like that.
Give me tips on how to get petite girls /fraud/
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>>39113283
Not him but I've always ben curious to zyzzs cycle/blasts could you point me to it. (Dont particularly want to try just wondering)
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>>39113289
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>>39113304
Vitamin b12
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>>39113299

Move to South Texas.....

Latinas everywhere who are *max* 5' 6".

All have ample and perky boobs, not furry, and enjoy backdoor whimsy.

>just get 'em before 35 years old
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>>39113304
Multiple cycles of tren and the use of clen/dnp to get lean in my knowledge
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>>39113283
so you don't think you look better than him then?

good, go back to your hole you ugly Jaden Smith looking ogre

>If i were doing such doses i would look like markus ruhl and phil heath combined.
nah, because you have shit genetics
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Just ordered my first cycle, 250mg test e for 10 weeks.
So I'll start a 5 day split when I'm on cycle, but what should I do while on PCT/after cycle? Go back to 3 day full body like I'm doing now?
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>>39113313
I'm trying to lower my tolerance, I always steadily build up caffein intake when I've got a busy period for uni. I'm gonna start a 4 month busy af period from november again and I wanna start from 0 tollerance so I can always be awake and clearminded and not end up with a constant headache and having to take 400mg in the morning just to clear the brain fog when waking up.
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>>39113316
>be south american
>average height for a grill is like 5'2
>still can't find petite girl (that's not a mini landwhale)
I don't know how did I got fucked so much, small girls seems to be on high demand here.
Also I never ever dated a black girl, not sure how to even make contact.
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>>39113358
if you know his SSN, then he is a retard, therefore you are certainly getting bunk. sorry bro
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>>39113338
So fucking hard though...
Lost a security contract due to trying to be caffeine free.
I'd weaned myself down from 1200mg daily to 0 in a month, nightshift, fucking headache, I misplace my radio, didn't think I even had the radio so I didn't help look for it when my shift ended.

So I got removed.
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>>39113273
thats a paki girl?

hot af
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>>39113374
That sucks a lot... wtf they fire you for one mistake tho.. that's harsh.
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>>39113391
Those radios are worth 1200 dollars.
But really they had an ex employee come back and I feel it was just convenient for them to bounce me.

The radio was found and I never had been warned for anything prior.

Whatever, it opened the door to bouncing which is cool.
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There's some super petite black girl at my work who wants to fuck but I don't really like black girls. Think I should just hit it and quit it?

>>39113358
I assume you're in England in which case there are numerous good places to get roids which have good reputations. I'd steer clear of the Iranian test because it looks to be underdosed from people's previous labs.

Also your supplier is a fucking downie or something.

>>39113375
y-yeah.
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>>39113374
>>39113338
>>39113289

this sounds so pathetic, you cant function like a normal person and endure heavy and long physical and mental stress without coffee.

literally never drank coffee, lift 5 times a week while having a physically challenging job.
and im vegetarian on top of that too.

fucking plebs
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>>39113413
What were you doing before? I did patrols for a couple years and that was easy asf. Didn't get punched in the head or anything
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>>39113432

>vegetarian

Fucking fags.
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>>39113401
test is usually not faked.

tren yes, var yes, hgh yes,

but test? would be a dick move

check the brand and ask on reddit
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>>39113413
Glad it turned well.
I've had some short night shifts (not bouncer related) and I love changing the day/night schedule, night is comfy as fuck.
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>>39113444
>the faggot roiding since years and looking absolute shit.

you are not in the position to say anything, you pedophile

inb4

>MUUH STRENGTH
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>>39113432
Congratz, here is your (you)

Cant believe what a man you are. Jesus, how will we compare???!!!
YOU DONT DRINK COFFEE AND YOU DONT EAT MEAT. WOW, you are so COOL!
Thanks for gracing us with your presence.
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holy shit i want a huge bf
sexy af
why do i keep getting emotionally involved with lanklets with thighs half the size of mine?
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>>39113461

Mast Plsgo.

I'm not wishing on you what happened to me, but i'm pretty sure you would give up on lifting if you lost 50% or more of your mass in a week.
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>>39113467
>butthurt coffee addict faggot getting mad because i can do the things he can do without being drinking 5 cups of bloodpressure increasing coffein.

dank memes gois xDD so funeez
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>>39113432
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>>39113374
>1200mg daily
what the Christ

my pwo has like 160mg of caffeine and it gets me jittery as shit when I take it
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>>39113413

>bouncing

better share some fucking stories nigga.
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Crusader Idgaf about anything in the last thread but this. >>39111247

As soon as my girlfriends off her period I'm going to fuck her in the kinkiest most disgusting way I can just because of that comment.
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>>39113488

Coffein =/= caffein.
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>>39113432

you can't get all high and mighty about not drinking coffee when you stick bathtub chemicals in your ass, anon.

try again.
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>>39113519

Yes he can. You just noticed it.
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>>39113316
Ugh... but Mexicunts... brah.

Their pussies taste like chipotle peppers.
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>>39113335
pls respond
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>>39113519
not him but i agree it sounds kinda weak, seeing strong adults on steroids who just stop working if they get no coffee.
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>>39113426
>Think I should just hit it and quit it?
You only regret the actions you don't take.
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"I''m not aFRAUD of you!"

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pls give (you)
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>>39113335
>10 weeks
>250mg ew
lmao
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>>39113569
top kek and nice bantz.
Can we bring back the bantz?
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>>39113588
I think this anon is attempting to communicate with us
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>>39113545
It's probably commonly faked if anything. If I were you I'd stick to Bayer or Pfizer if you can get it OTC there. I know turkey has an app to check if meds are legit or not so I'd do that too.

itsportal.saglik.gov.tr/

>>39113547
Thanks Lewis Carrol. I'll probably smash or if she doesn't shave just fuck around and fingerblast her.
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>>39113600
I'm making fun of your retarded cycle you spent all of 5 minutes researching
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>>39113616
all the resources I could find said to do 10-12 weeks of test e... if my cycle is retarded, please point me to a wiki or something
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>>39113648
The dose is too low. 500+
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>>39113602
>bayer

have fun paying 6€ for a single shot
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>>39113648
you are not getting anything out of it, thats why its retarded.

10 weeks. the first 4 weeks are build up, it wont do anything at that point.

so you have 6 weeks of gains. thats not long enough, and the thing that makes it worse is that its such a low dose.
before you know it, you have pct, and the tiny gains you made are already gone.

do 500mg for 16 weeks, you will blow up on that and keep some good gains
get aromasin too, you will need it.

dont inject illegal substances and risk your health for mothertrucking mediocre gains.
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>>39113439
Security for CBC, McGill university and Ericsson. All by the numbers stuff.

>>39113453
Yeah nightshift security was comfy as fuck. Especially when I worked control room. Basically paid to stream shows.

>>39113493
Well pwo have a combo of things that do this.
I was dosing 400mg caffeine three times a day alongside 32mg ephedrine during my cut. No jitters.

>>39113496
Just a month in.
See lot's of tiddies.
This past Saturday I had the pleasure of bouncing a grabby Arab down the stairs.

Also some lanklet somehow dislocated his knee on dancefloor, gruesome and later that night some kid was od'ing on something.

Pic related was one of my first security jobs for some awards show.
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>>39113287
Yeah
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>>39113488
>he doesn't take full advantage of every bit of science he can
>he purposefully makes life more difficult for himself
>he is a true noble monk virgin

Be honest, how many swords do you own?
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>>39113720
Just is like 4 different esters which make blood levels unstable. Stick to test e. Run the Iranian stuff if you want but if get bloods after two months to check if it's legit.
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>>39113686
thanks anon. at 16 weeks, should I use clomid in addition to nolva? /r/steroids wiki says I should use it at 20 weeks but *could* use it for less
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>>39113720
If you can afford it, nothing, I repeat nothing is better than human grade stuff.
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>>39113732
>science
>being addicted to something as faggy as coffee
>fuck yeah science!

i owned a sword when i was younger
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>>39113755
are you another one of these people who just went to the example cycle page without reading the rest? and you saw "250mg e3d" without trying to find out what e3d means?
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>>39113755
sorry i cant help you with that, Im blasting and cruising since 2 years now and never done a single PCT before.
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>>39113713
Jeeze this guy is handsome
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>>39113713
You look good when you cant see your thick ass core
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>>39113790
i realize that page recommends 500mg, but I've seen other pages say to start with 250 or 500 a week. i wanted to be safer with my first cycle and take a lower dose. evidently I was very, extremely wrong
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>>39113812
Are you loaded anon ? That's expensive as fuck..
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>>39113732

>swords

Implying they're not katanas made by folding glorious nippon steel at least 100.000 times.
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>>39113811
when did you become a bully, jerry?
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>>39113785
Yes. Caffeine and coffee are good for you and improve performance.

But even if they didn't, why do you give a shit? Hint: it's because you're a judgmental douche.

I work with a fat guy who is 50 and single, doesn't drink, doesn't drink coffee, talks mad shit about people who use smart phones and who smoke pot or do any kind of "fun" activity that doesn't line up with his Christian worldview and he is the most unhappy loser I've ever seen.

Don't be like him.

Also....I own a wooden sword, used to do kendo, kek.
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>>39113843
>30kg of chicken breast.

Well okay if money isnt an issue for you then just save up.
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>>39113827

Tbh, running 1g of that a week would still be relatively cheap. It's Just that it could be much cheaper.
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>>39113803
They'd put makeup on me.

>>39113811
My core is manly.

Oh and bouncing is getting me numbers from better looking girls then I ever previously courted, like this short sweetie.
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>>39113862

I eat 4kg steak a week when recomping/lean bulking. If not more. And that's far from the only meat, I also like turkey, chicken and shit like roo/buffalo etc

I skip pork, but not a mudslime I swear.
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I'm ready to go /fraud/ guys. Tired of lackluster gains even when my diet is good and I bust my ass at the gym.

How hard is learning to pin? It's the only major turn off for me. How many different locations do I realistically need to switch between to avoid damage?

Is it easy to do by yourself or do you need assistance?
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>>39113878

Butterface.

Alice is mai waifu. Toptier crazy.
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>>39113713
Fuck you look good in a suit, groot. Like, abnormally good.

>>39113811
Turns out golem mode is aesthetic in clothes.

>>39113878
Are you liftin for aesthetics, or str lvls?
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>>39113885
Maybe my perception is skewed cause I have only a small fridge with an even smaller freezing compartment. Wish I could afford that much steak tho.
I can see why pork isn't as tasty just by itself, but pork in Asian dishes is delicious tho, also spare ribs... godly.
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>>39113923
>quad injection
how big is the needle and where do you pin?
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>>39113858
its not that i give a shit, it just buffles my mind how you people stop working properly and cant get through the day if you dont drink coffee.

it sounds absolutely fucked up and pathetic.

what good is it, if i can do the same things you can do, without being reliant on coffee?

you say it gives you a huge boost and high energy, but i work physically 10 hours a day, i can lift for 3 hours and not even be tired afterwards and get home with a smile on my face.

dont take it personally, all of my friends are like this too.

now that we are getting open minded, i was owning several katanas and bows when i was younger. i would cut and shoot my pillows with them and feel like a fucking warrior.

i would also throw, throwing knifes into trees.

i acted like a normal person in public though and i didnt wear cuck clothing
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>>39113857
the beta uprising is now!

>>39113878
Pass a few my way
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>>39113891
I like her face, it is "handsome" in a similar way to Jennifer Connelly.

>>39113897
Thanks breh, I'm all around handsome.
I think if my chest and shoulders get bigger it'll balance out the look of my fridge core.

I'd like a Klokov balance of strength and aesthetics knowing I won't come close, but really my strength ambitions are modest since I really don't want to snap my shit up. I'm getting old.
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>>39113889
been pinning my quads for 2 years now.

not sure about the pinning, i never had a problem with it, even the first time i did it.

just get 27g pussy needles like me, you dont even feel the needle going in.


on a side note:

am i the only one here who actually enjoys pinning roids? I dont know why but i always look forward to it, i enjoy it kind of
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God just bringing up my coworker pisses me off.

He does crossfit (go figure) and so I thought he'd like to see The Mountain do some strongman shit and he was like
>why would you want to be like that
>he probably eats all day
>it's so much money
>He'll be dead by 60

He constantly dismisses everything.

>y-yeah he's a good musician but he'll be dead from all those drugs what an idiot

>y-yeah those headphones are cool but kids these days will never know what real music sounds like from real speakers

He's the same type of person that whines about tattoos because they'll "look like shit when you're 60". Fucking hate people like that.

Yeah, why try to do anything or buy anything or be ambitious in any way when we're all gonna die one day right?

Maybe that's why you're fucking 54 years old and have the same job that I do.

Sigh, I didn't sleep very well last night.
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>>39113951
I need to get my power levels up high as fuck to be so alpha girls will fuck my friends.

Certainly helps that you're mostly all statuesque.
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>>39113947
Its just real life memeing, dude. People don't NEED coffee. I don't NEED caffeine. I enjoy it. It feels good. It tastes good.

I go cold turkey for a few weeks before I start EC cycles and I'm fine.

I have also destroyed many pillows.
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>>39113972
>He's the same type of person that whines about tattoos because they'll "look like shit when you're 60".
he's right

also, don't cuck up your body for something you think looks cool at a certain point in time. think about what you liked 5, 10 years ago and tell me you don't cringe about that shit.

tattoos are for retards
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>>39114008
I want a back or chest tattoo of my dead little brother's shitty designs, with some of his ashes in it. What if you don't give a shit about how it looks, just that it's something special to constantly remind you about someone you miss and loved, a lot?
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>>39113972
i know what you mean, i get legit fucking mad at stuff like this.


recently this happened. i cant look him into the eyes anymore without wanthing to crush his head
>wow dude you got fucking jacked
thehe
>omg i should have gone to the gym too, now i regret it.

well anon, why did you not go?

>no time brah
>gf brah
>work brah
>other priorities brah
>full shedule brah

and knows every single game of thrones episode, watches random bullshit movies at home with his gf
sits at his fat ass for atleast 2 hours a day to watch tv

like, instead of just admiting that they were lazy and unmotivated, they use EVERY FUCKING EXCUSE THAT IS OUT THERE AND PRETEND LIKE THEY DO NOT HAVE A SINGLE FUCKING HOUR OF FREE TIME TO WORK OUT.

3 FUCKING HOURS, IN AN ENTIRE WEEK

3 out of 150 (HUNDRED) fucking hours, of free time. just motherfucking 3.

>triggered
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>>39114031
Nigga are you pinning the inside of your quad? You're way off.
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>>39114008
I love all my tattoos, even the ones I got 10 years ago. They are a part of my life even if they don't represent me as a person now.

Why the fuck would I care about what my disgusting wrinkled body will look like at 60 when it looks awesome now? And for the forseeable future? Fucking stupid.

Plus old dudes with tats are awesome.
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>>39114031
>20g

why the fuck would you ever do that.

ever heard of scar tissue faggot.
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>>39114020
that's honestly just as retarded, if not worse because it doesn't even have the benefit of temporarily looking good

do you really need ugly shit on your body to remember your dead brother?
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>>39114072
lol dude, i think a tatoo for a dead brother is reasonable.

must be hard, losing his brother.
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is 25 x 1 good for delts?

should I go all the way in or leave some space?
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>>39114053
Let it all out man, let it all out.
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Do you guys run asin throughout your blasts or do you usually only take it when you feel your e2 getting high?

I can't seem to dial the dose in for the life of me and blood tests every couple weeks would get expensive. Maybe I'll drop it down to 6.25ed and just try that for a while.
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>>39114065
I agree Im in the planning stage for more Azusa tattoos
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>>39114053
Iktfb

>>39114211
Idktfb

Mirin jerrbears tho
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>>39114211
you're going to be so disappointed in yourself in like 5 years

I know because I'm older you
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>>39114239
I don't think you understand Jerry's love for Azusa.
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>>39114239
I've known Jerry for as many years as I have hands and in that time I've known him to regret most things
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>>39113221
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>>39114095
that pic
>russians

>>39114195
its hard yes.

on blasts i personally do them beforehand, without waiting for sides.

tho you could do that, if your nips start itching and you pop asin immediately, it will go away (someone confirm dis pls).

6.25mg ed is prolly going to crash you hard dude
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>high insertions on literally everything
>high lats, high/short bicep, chest ends really high, etc

The combination of high chest and high lats looks so fucking stupid it is insane
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>>39113889
It's easy as fuck man. After the first pin I was like fuck, why haven't I done this sooner. I literally get psyched to pin now. I sit down in my chair and pin my quad in under 10 minutes including prep.
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>>39114267
I regret one more thing now.
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>>39114393
What would make anyone think that's a good idea?
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>>39114393
Sharky didn't kill zyzz but he has let chest brah stay alive
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>>39114370
arent high lats asthetic af?
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Fuck this manager sounded cute over the phone
>"uh... hello?"
>hey it's bimbo, one of your managers offered me a job the other day and I'm calling to follow up
>"oh my gosh yes and we got your resume too. My floor manager put a little note on your resume....mhm uh huh I'll put your resume and info at the top of the stack for the owner, and light a fire under his ass to call you. I want you here"

Cool can I fuck my managers sexy ass voice weed girls are always intensely bizarre or chill at and slutty
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>>39114437

Low lats are best. Big low lats are nice, big high lats look retarded.

Like how a 6'6 guy who's muscular looks good and yet it looks like crap when you're 5'0 tall
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>>39114449
the fuck did you even do for work before g4p

are you just gonna be a clerk at these dispensaries?
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>>39114407

Didn't sharky die?
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>>39114470
I managed a supplement store, duh.

Security work. Fucking the counter girlies.
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>>39113304
Who cares? He literally looks like shit for the shit he took. Fucking 2 grams of tren a week, and still manages to look like a fucking twink

You guys are a fucking joke

>>39113328
Awwwh i insulted his muhhh zeuss, muhh aesthetics. muhhh eye brow plucking turt face. Maybe you should visit his grave and stick some left over bones in your ass, while fantasizing your penetrating his dick in your ass.

But this jaden smith ore, gets more mires from all the girls you desire but will never get get.

Maybe you should watch more zyzz motivation videos. WE ELL GENNE MAKE IT BREH.

shit genetics? But i am still better than you. That's what all matters in life, being better.
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>>39114407
You better pray i let you stay alive as well.
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Trying to plan the next few months out.

>Cruising on 200mg
>Need to lose 10 pounds
>b-but bulk season now
>want to blast soon
>need to PCT next year

Hmmm...

Maybe I just won't blast and keep cutting and then just recomp on 200mg.

But then my PCT will probably be before summer and I'll look like shit ;_;

I didn't time this very well at all.
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>>39114449
Are stoner chicks the ultimate for short term relationships?

>self medicated
>chill
>always horny
>love your cooking no matter what
>generally pretty good looking from wanting to look gewd at festivals and concerts and shit.

Just gotta drop em before they get too lazy and their metabolism drops to shit in their late 20s when they blow up like a ballon.
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>>39113273
Working out at new gym for 3 months, not one single faggot has offered to sell me steroids. I need help guys.
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>>39114458
>Like how a 6'6 guy who's muscular looks good and yet it looks like crap when you're 5'0 tall


DELETE THIS
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>>39114481
dont pretend like you are not plucking your eyebrows
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I'm gonna hop on the yellow submarine next week (or whenever the caps arrive) and since I don't want to overheat while lifting, what routine should I switch to? Currently doing SL 3x5 with two of the three big compounds at intermediate.
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>>39114543

Don't bother.
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>>39114573

Whatever doesn't burn you out and burns more calories.
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>>39114543
>trying to argue with masT while you're responding to his b8.
>not posting your own body pics.

Welcome newfriend. Also, Notop said his first intelligent thing in 3 days. >>39114581
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>>39114543
What do you know about aesthetics, fucking moron. Broaden your knowledge about bodybuilding before ever talk to me again. With your fucking aesthetics.

I showed a dozen pics with different angles, shit lightning and so on. I can't help it your dyel brain only can remember 2 pics.

this picture = NATTY 4 years. No angles, no bathroom lightning, no pump. Looking way bigger than zyzz after blasting 2 grams of tren-e.

BTFFOOO hard.

moommmm i got bullied on the internet again, by some superior genetic monster.

shut up faggot son, and bow down to your superiority

but mommm, zyzz was aesthetic. remember

god i hate my faggot son


>>39114553
have you seen my eyebrows? They look like fucking doormats

If i would pluk them, i am not doing a good job.
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>>39114449
Kys jesus christ.
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>>39114500
No, stoner chicks are shit. They are good for having as a fuck buddy but you don't want to date one.
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THIS IS A PURE SUPREME EXAMPLE OF AESTHETICS.

perfect flow, proportion and size. No skinny shit

zyzz was a fucking joke
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>>39114658
How tall are you again?
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>>39113534
>eating pussy
>being this much of a cuck
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>>39114458
My high lays look like shit.
>>39114488
No praying just knowing
>>39114848
Wow look at this tough guy that doesn't want sloppy cunt goo on his face.
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Crazy. I get fucking jelly from his genetics

>>39114806
tall enough to fuck you in the ass
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>>39114901
He just ate a lot of horse and pinned a lot of parabolan he's dead now
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>>39113273
dude in pic related would look like such a sperg without that roid bod
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>>39114795
Did someone have his heart broken, anon?

>>39114804
I feel like your idea of men's physique has just translated into building massive fucking chest, delts, arms, and lats. It's just a different kind of mass monster body building that doesn't actually look aesthetic if we're being honest, it looks manly as fuck, but not aesthetic. Too unbalanced for my taste, but that's just me. Look at Jeremy Buendia, the current "most aesthetic man on earth" and he doesn't need the stupidly big top to bottom, just balanced. Aesthetic.
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>>39113273
Jesus.
Did Victor Frankenstein run out of adult faces when he built this abomination?
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>>39114955
Buendia is big dude
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>>39114969
reminds me of this for some reason
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>>39114985
He's huge, but not >>39114804 Huge.
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>>39113534

More like cilantro desu senpai
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Oven baked eggplant is so fucking tasty.
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>>39115072
Yes
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>>39114955
look at this guy, and tell me he his high lats look shit?

it gives him a tight core faggots.

low lats make you look like a tank, whilte that might be cool, it isnt asthetic
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>>39114282
When you were on 500mg DNP did you feel any sides?
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>>39115115
No it's no cool.
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>>39115115
I prefer high bicep insertions too, even though low are seen as ideal.

I like the look of a high peak.

Sucks when you're wearing tshirts though, looks like sticks poking out of the sleeves.
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>>39114939
At least he didn't die as a dyel.

>>39114955
You're dyel beyond believe. Why should i take you seriously?

He will do good in physique, but will never be a true bodybuilder.

His chest is good, but his arms and back are way too shitty to be a bb.

Golden era is what i call aesthetic. Or Cedric Mcmillan from this era.

>>39115028
being sane is for the weak
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>>39115219
>>
So I'm at week 4 on test e 500-650mg/week asin as needed

I feel so bloated and gross

Basically yolo I want to start a beginner tren cycle

250mg test e/week + 400mg tren e/week? What do you guys recommend? Goal is weight loss/recomp. Or should I just add something to current test e cycle like deca/mast?
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>>39115174
Yeah, my first cycle was 400mg and it had a pretty marked effect.
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>>39115285
Huh. Would you say that sides = results? I've been on 500mg for nearly a week now (4 days on 250mg 6 on 500). Literally no sides besides dry mouth. Would you recommend upping the dose or should I be thankful?
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>>39115298
I'll give you a deep muscular injection bb
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>>39115298
B& in 3... 2... 1

>>39115224
You're right masT, total DYEL. Where's a pic of you from today, baby? Why can't you look good all the time instead of just on a blast? Show me those asthetic traps, pecs, and abs.
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>>39115313
If you're losing weight then just lose weight.

You're already dancing with the devil and obviously impatient as shit, why be even more impatient?

I swear you guys have no chill.
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>>39115219
>>39115223

thats from the front. from the back, your back will look asthetic af.


thats where i disagree. long biceps insertions make them look huge and thick.
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>>39113283
Are you really getting this mad? Zyzz was more aesthetic than you will ever be and he also was a better tripfag, actually brought the lulz and you just promote your ugly ass physique on multiple posts. Lmao the most notable current trip on /fit/ is probably Cheekie, how does it feel being btfo'd by a dyke? You have an ugly physique for your height bro you didn't even need to roid at all for a decent proportional body, anyone with common sense would rather look like Zyzz than you, manlet. Never speak of this again.
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>>39115313
>people this retarded are doing steroids

kys
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>>39115341
jesus christ, i wanna cut off his lats and grill them up
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>>39115344
We called him an attention whore faggot and he was completely fucking shitbanned in less then a week.
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>>39115349
>people this retarded call DNP a steroid

lol@u
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>>39115356
he's the ultimate freak
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>>39115243
WHEW

>>39115341
steroids I think

>>39115356
>paul grillett
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>>39115340
Yeah I know. I get the allure. I just like softball biceps, they're cool looking.
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>>39113498
Doing the same while on her period will be even more kinky and disgusting.
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>>39114804
Agree, most aesthetic ever. I have crazy tiny waist I hope that my hips are all fat and not bone, can't wait to get lean
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>>39115357
Have to consistently keep these niggers like this in their place or else they spew retardation like this
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>>39115264
BUMP

I'm scared to just take more asin cause of the nightmare stories about crashing e2
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>>39113273
Post the pastebin faggots
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>>39115344
>Never speak of this again
Holy shit.
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>>39115325
It's been 15 minutes... still no masT. I wonder where he is, famalam.

>>39115418
Agreed. But there's some kink even I'm not into.
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>>39115447
so wait you want to start tren now?

or you want to wait until you're off and have cruised to your next blast to run tren?

confused on the timeframe you've set for yourself
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>>39115340
It looks okay.
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>>39115484
Aesthetic as fuck V.
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>>39114804
Google "Frank Zane" that is the most aesthetic physique of all time. Too much size is the opposite of aesthetics. People like him Jeff, Steve Reeves. Calum/Arnold is the largest you can get while still looking pretty aesthetic still not as aesthetic as Frank.
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>>39115478
I wanna just transition into tren...wait 10-14 days and then start the tren ?
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>>39115508
Just pin it.
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>>39115508
>wait
what for? chinese new year?
just do it famalam
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>>39115513
Im one of the rare ones that likes to think before I pin. no issues with just going straight to it tho? test not too high?
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Question from a natty here: I hear some people say that roids increase energy and/or make you feel less tired during the day. Is that all placebo, or is it legit?
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>>39115325
ALERT ALERT!!! ANGLE PIC. SOMEBODY STOP THIS MADMAN!!!.

He did it guiyz he's doing it. the absolute madman!!!

I know you want more pics for you fap collection, but this picture i took last week, which is the most recent. And some other pics.But you will find a way to hate me. Come on, i need my dick to get hard before i go to bed.

>>39115344
Seriously, where do you guys get such fedora cringe people. I can't even...

Okay, show me the best picture of you gaylord god. Because we all know you're too afraid to show some pictures from yourself, thus you need to brag with other ppl pics

>not seeing the cringe.
LMAO

>>39115496
Frank zane was too skinny imo
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>>39115534
high test high tren isnt going to turn you into a frog overnight dude
my first tren blast was 500 tren 500 test, it was fine
i prefer lower test higher tren but it was still PRETTY OK
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>>39115534
If it's tren a, you can just drop it immediately if you don't like sides. I can't help with dopamine agonist dosing as I've never needed them.
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>>39115534
if it's tren ace, run 50mg/day for a week, if no sides, go up to 525, if no sides, go to 750 or so, that's what I did my first cycle and it worked great.

lower the tren to a cruise dose but don't sperg out about it, it's no big deal and you might not have any sides even at that dose of test

tren isn't this boogeyman people make it out to be

nor is it this magical unicorn piss people make it out to be

>>39115544
if you're low t natty, then this could be fixed even with high TRT dosages. they don't give you an "energized" feeling like caffeine, or speed, but they give you the motivation to not be a piece of shit if you're a low t beta orbiter before hopping on
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>>39115565
fuck now I've made myself want to do some blow
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>>39115553
>Frank zane was too skinny imo
>t. BDD sufferer
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>>39115553
You're certainly an expert on angle pics, aren't you? :^)

I've seen that pic for months it seems. Where's something actually recent dude? I need more for the fap collection.

I can't hate you masT, you're one of my favorite fraud posters. Who else could possibly b8 all the dyels you do? Plus the only thing you have on me is your arms and delts, not enough to make me really h8. I liked how you didn't mention me being dyel a single time in that post, though.
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>>39115598
Zane was skinny just aesthetic in all capacities
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>>39115565
>if you're low t natty
mid-300s ng/dL. I'm fat, though, so I'm wondering if my estro is also wonky. Working on that slowly.
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>>39115639
Yeah, skinny, but he said too skinny which implies a flaw in his aesthetic perfection
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>>39115644
cut down and hop on then

I'd always advocate hopping on in the case of low-t, even if you just hop on at healthy medical cruise doses putting you in the high natural range. It's only beneficial at that point.
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>>39115635
That was meant ironically, dumb ass.

I have only seen one picture of you, but you're demanding more pics from me, while i have already shown so many pics your dick shouldn't be alive anymore.

Your abs look shit like mine, and you got a massive chest gap i want to tit fuck. So what do you have better than me again?

>>39115598
I am realistic
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>>39115652
Not at all Zane would have looked silly with more mass and he knew that
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>>39115682
>Your abs look shit like mine, and you got a massive chest gap i want to tit fuck.
>discrediting someone because of something they can't change
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>>39115682
masT post more legs

I want to think about running my hands over your thicc thighs and fingering my boipussi while you tug on my collar
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Where are cheap bars with lots of ugly British women in London?

I'm assuming the dozen or so pretty Brits will be in a club that I can't afford.
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>>39115682
how was accutane?

any major sides you have noticed?

did it take just 1 cycle to clear of the acne?
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>>39115653
Thinking about it, but it's something I'm not really sure about yet.
On the one hand, I love lifting, and this would allow me to lift more often and more effectively. Do I not owe it to myself to explore every avenue for improving my lifts? Especially when the things I want (high deadlift numbers, mostly) are beyond my reach without gear.
On the other hand, there's the social stigma, the dependency, the travel limitations, and the need to manage sides/AI and have regular bloodwork (blood work is fucking expensive here, especially as a monthly/bi-monthly thing).
I just need to take the time to mull it over. Been considering this since the spring, and it's seeming like something I'll have to wait until later in life (i.e. working a full-time job) to start.
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>>39115707
This is 4chan, get your r9k white knight feelings out of here.

He states that he got better abs than me, yet we both have shitty looking abs. I am not scared to admit. I HAVE SHIT LOOKING ABS, They disgust me every time i see them. You see, that wasn't so hard

>>39115744
Worst thing that ever happend to me. Had really bad suicidal thoughts. Very depressive. But everyone responce different. Some people have just dry lips.

Yes accutane is god-tier for acne. Cleared all my acne. You know how shitty acne i first had? Really disgusted me, like my abs do.

>>39115737
Don't have any recent
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>>39115740
>cheap bars
>ugly women
>london
>where

literally all of them

>>39115755
if you're so devoted to lifting, continue your cut religiously, and take time to think about the decision since you're clearly on the fence about it. Reach your natty potential, and then hop on if you aren't happy with where you're at, which will likely be the case due to low t

>social stigma
just fake natty brah, if your goal is strength and not to get FOOKEN HYUUUUUUUGE then it's not hard
>dependency
home brew a stockpile, it's what I and a few others have done. I have enough test to last a lifetime and a half.
>travel limitations
test undec. pin it once a month if you must
>manage sides/ai
not on a TRT dosage, only on blasts
>regular bloodwork
not necessary monthly or bi-monthly, just at the start/end of blasts or once you dial in your cruise dose if you TRT
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>>39115682
Didn't I tell you I'd recreate everything you do just to have fun with you? Are you forgetting the picture everyone thought was you before I started tripping?

Are you asking for more pics of me, masT? :^)

I don't have zipper abs, so that's for sure not true, and gat damn do I love my chest insertions not being half pancakes. You can tit fuck the slightly bigger gap as much as you want, won't fix what's still genetically inferior on you.

Here's my ass for you masT. Edge your load, don't blow it immediately.
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>>39115807
>edge your load, don't blow it immediately

I've been doing this the entire time you two have been banting back and forth with your pics

please continue, you're fueling the collection
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>>39115840
I love you c-p
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>>39115484
Fuark mirin back.

Looks way better than the fron post like this all the time.
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>>39115840
post the rest of your folders
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>>39115794
>literally all of them
Ok, average ones then.

I don't wanna waste my time in lame bars with old men.
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>>39115896
I looked thick at this last Kink shoot.
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Anything I should know before taking MK677?
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>>39113374
>addicts
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>>39115935
you will be hungry all the time

you will bloat

take it before bed
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>>39114901
kinda wish you were my friend
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>>39113858

I work with a fat guy who is 50 and single, he drinks, drink coffees, talks mad shit about people who dont use smart phones and who dont smoke pot or don't any kind of "fun" activity that doesn't line up with his atheist worldview and he is the most unhappy loser I've ever seen.

dont be like him
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>>39115932
Naw I got a fetish for HUGE backs
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>>39116056
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>>39115905
they're shit though
>>39115862
i love me too anon

jk

>>39115932
why do you look like you just blew a line of K in that picture
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>>39116068
>>39115932

I fucking love you bimbo, lol.
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>browsing this thread in the subway on the way back from work
everyone thinks I'm gay now
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>>39116085
smug anime girl, bimbo edition
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>>39115793
youre so lean why such bad acne? im 22%bf pinned a whole vial in 2 weeks just minor bloat
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>>39115794
I'll keep those things in mind, thanks.
Doesn't test-u cause really uneven test levels though? Like, really high after pin, then really low just before the next?
How long does gear last when stored? I was under the impression that it can "spoil" because of the oils.
Will I not have to manage estro and such if I'm on low doses?
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>>39116116
*manage estro, even if it was already fucked up before
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>>39116068
Pretty sure this was shot the day after a 12 hour coke binge from 7 pm to 7 am and this was at 9-10 am.

That's why.
>>39116085
Thanks!
>>39116106
I just want to be the perfect husbando.

Someone just told me all of my astrological shit without explaining it and now I'm so lost.
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>>39116116
>test-u cause inconsistent levels
it can if you do a 1/month pin like that, but ideally you'd still pin it once ever 2 weeks or every week, but you can work it in around travel times as necessary, is my point
>how long does gear last
inconclusive data, though it's known to degrade after time
>estro management on low dose
as long as you stay within normal ranges (upwards of 1200ng/dl iirc) you'll not have to manage estrogen. The dose you need to do this varies, hence why I recommend bloodwork to get it dialed in.

some very positive responders could see 1200ng/dl or close to it on 100mg/week, others may need 200mg/week for that number. It varies based on personal response. But the 100-200 range is generally accepted as cruise territory.
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>>39116154
Got it, thanks.
If I don't have to manage AI and such on low doses, and pinning once or twice per month is an option, then that sounds much more manageable.
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I'm pretty sketched out I pinned a whole vial over the past 2 weeks, my levels should be ALL JACKED UP MAN BUT I CANT TELL IF ITS WORKING
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>>39116085
>>39116141
ur cute ;]
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>>39116183
just do another one to find out

and like 200mg sdrol/day for a week

>>39116182
np
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>>39116199
ok brb
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>>39113287
for you
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>>39116198
Buy my porn then.
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>>39116141
>Someone just told me all of my astrological shit without explaining it and now I'm so lost.
bimbo please, not you too
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>>39114955
Yeah I don't get it. When a dude looks so overly ripped in the arms/upper body that he loses most flexibility/limb control, it seems completely useless.

I much more prefer an athletic build. Still beyond ottermode, but you can actually rest your arms at your sides still.
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>>39115341
E V E R Y T H I N G
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>unironically taking steroids
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>>39114955
I think that looks pretty shit tbH

bimbo no/underworked core syndrome

dunno what the appeal of it is, but clearly a lot of people seem to like the look, so maybe I'm just wrong
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>>39115966
Thanks for the info
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>>39113316
backdoor whimsy...kek
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>>39114500
you forgot will fuck their drug dealer when you aren't around

also enjoy getting woken up at 3 am by two geeked out fagwads looking for their stolen stuff
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>>39113432
IM A VEGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!!!!!!!
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>>39116154
Why would blood levels be so vastly different from the same dose?

SHBG?
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>>39116546
I don't know the exact science behind it, I but that could be one factor

another could simply pass it off as different quality in gear, so be consistent as much as you can of course
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>>39116632
If you look at bloodwork on sst you'll see crazy difference from the same dose and batch.
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>>39115476
Gotta earn those red wings sometime m8
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>>39116252
Nah not really. I just had a friend be like here's your info but I can't explain bye.
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>>39113304
think he did susta/deca/tren
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>>39115555
Check'd

>>39115553
How about we see a pic that isn't the same angle as every pic you ever fucking uploaded.
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>>39116840
He had to hide his peepee
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>>39116710
I've earned my red wings already from a couple of... untimely accidents. Just not something I make a point of trying to do m80.

>>39113304
First forum I found on the topic claims Clenbuterol, Cytomel (T3), Tren Ace, and Test Prop. They went into detail more afterwards about dosages somewhat and it matches what masT said, so I'm inclined to believe it somewhat.
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>>39116877
Fuck I love bloody pussy
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>>39116907
it's an odd sort of feel but I'm right there with you
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>>39115553
Wow beautiful
Totally worth all the drugs to never compete and bang a 3/10 daily. Bravo bro
>>
jesus christ now I remember why I've stopped memeing through routines and diets online

I enter this black hole for half of eternity where I search for the perfect routine for days upon days and block out all other things in life

same with the diet

this is why I need to stick to programming my own shit and just fucking eating + or - TDEE

back2basiics bois
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>>39115807
>roiding for this
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>>39117091
DUP
>>
How long does it take for caber and ralox to kick in?
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>>39117091
Jacked and Tan 2.0 with Juggernaut Method conditioning and explosive stuff

Prioritizes strength in the main lifts of your choice
Self regulated volume
Loads of bodybuilding work

Room for "sport specific" exercises and conditioning.

Can't go wrong.
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>>39117090
10/10 picture
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>>39117090
K E K
E
K

>>39117106

>Implying I roided for this

I'd be a fucking monster if I roided, masT truly wouldn't be able to even hold a candle to me if I actually BnC'd at even half the doses he does. My legs would be 30% bigger, I'd get banned from boxing, and I'd look mass monster tier if I roided.
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>>39117259
dont get ahead of yourself friend, you look like a skinny rabbit
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Looking to do a cycle of mk-677 at 25mg/day. Due to faster recovery, should i do a more steroid oriented routine or stick with a natty routine since it is not as powerfull as test.
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>>39117277
Lighting and angle. Just like everyone on this board does. I just felt like taking a pic this morning at a shitty angle with objectively shit lighting to prove a point to masT. If he took one from the same angle you'd see bigger arms and the same if not worse body. But he won't take a picture from an angle like that because of above.
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Lower body day today.

Couldnt sleep or eat for shit last night, feel like ass now.

Gotta drive a few hours to the airport and back early tomorrow.

I think Im gonna skip it.

Please forgive me.
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>>39113432
Fucking pathetic, you can't understand why some people like caffeine when they are overworked? Fucking pathetic you make me sick I'm gonna vomit and probably die.
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>>39117313
"not as powerful as test" is quite the understatement

that's like saying creatine isn't as powerful as dbol

>>39117408
wow, that's a rare estp

where did you get it, friend?
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>>39117408
We all miss her. Even mast does.
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>>39117408
stop sharing personal lewds reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

>tfw never did get to fly her out here to fugg because lost the emails in my retarded inbox and somehow deleted them
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>>39117446
Absolutely understand that. But would there be any merit in bumping volume/frequency to some degree?
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>>39117408
You little attention whore.

Just put your trip on you cute little slut. I know it's you.
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>>39117446
Regina anon reporting in

Found her on plenty of fish
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>>39117501
Lol

>people actually believe this isn't ESTP

what's a matter baby? You don't tend to be shy.
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>>39117471
not really, no
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>>39114985
he's really small in person, seen him a couple times in gym when he lived in temecula, ca
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>>39110463
Before I had a family I considered taking the plunge. Now that I have a family I don't entertain the idea anymore.

More than anything now I really focus on making lots of money and training secondary.
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>>39117555
That's s good philosophy nice numbers
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>>39117516
Sorry to disappoint
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>>39116067
How do you get your upper arms to look large compared to a large back like this? My triceps look tiny from behind next to my broad back.
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>>39117567
So you post private info to prove your point.
Thanks for posting what town she's from.
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>>39117567
tfw she didn't actually turn her life around after her /fraud/ breakdown and she actually just went back to whoring around

feels bad for estp, man

>>39117612
everyone knows this, retard. she's even posted her phone number multiple times if you wanna text her
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>>39117612
We already knew bby
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>>39117592
Rope pulldowns with a single arm

Db tricep extensions
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>>39117612
She posted this all already

I'm not even the first person to post her account name on fraud
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>>39117612
>white knighting this hard
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>>39117653
Why hasn't she posted lately?
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>>39114658
why so insecure
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>>39117669
I didn't tell her I'm from fraud lmao
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>>39117663
Don't you have some 2G girl to jerk off jewfeld?
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>>39115341
It looks like a bicycle
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>>39117688
jesus fucking christ anon please stop for the love of my sides
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>>39117686
I knew i was forgetting to do something.
Thanks anon
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I wish I knew about regina
else I'd spoof gps & make a pof to troll her
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>>39117688
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>>39113316
Where So Tex bro
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Gonna run Test Prop and tren ace, what are the odds of needing caber?
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>>39117886
incase my dick doesn't work*
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>went from 4k bulk to 2k cut on a gram of test and a gram of eq
>feel damn hungry and weak just want to lie around

Fuck i could cut on worse than that on a lower dose of test and winny.

Dunno if the slightly increased mas, metabolic adaptation and much higher doses makes me legit hungry or its the equipoise mindfucking me
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>>39113273
>thumbnail

I legit thought it was a big guy was holding some kind of ventriloquist puppet
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Gear should arrive next week, this is what im gonna be using for my first cycle. Let me know your thoughts:

week 1-16 - 500mg Test E Per Week
week 19-22 40/40/20/10 Nolva
week 19-22 100/100/50/50 Clomid

Also will have arimidex on hand.
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>>39118202
That's a shitton of Clomid

If youre running both nolva and clomid just do 20mg nolva 25-50mg clomid.
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>>39118323
Thanks for your input.

So maybe 50/50/25/25 clomid
and 20/20/10/10 nolva?
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>>39118202
>>39118323
Pls start making bants again fraud
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Ive done 2 injections of Test E at 500mg each E3D

Going to be doing 500mg weekly now tho with 2 injections

When should i add the Tren A to my cycle? It would be 50mg ED
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>>39118368
20mg nolva for a month and 25mg clomid.

These drugs aren't harmless the sides fucking suck. You want as low a dose as possible, Clomid especially seems to fuck with people.
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>>39118407
Now
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>>39118416
Okay, thank you.

What sides have you experienced from clomid?
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It's so Fucking obnoxious being invested in a person that forgets about you a week later.
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>>39118487
867 people reported to have side effects when taking Clomid.

Among them, 2 people (0.23%) have Blindness

http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/clomid/blindness/


Never taken it. Likely those cases were partially caused by diabetic complications along with the clomid, but vision issues are pretty commonly reported.
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>>39118512
Who are you again?
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>>39118544
No one important. Addict porn star who is in love with non commital pussy that doesn't even consider him.
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>>39118575
if youre referring to that chink just go ahead and kys
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>>39118575
What are you addicted to?
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>>39118638
I pretty much just crave getting intoxicated so I can turn my thoughts off
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>>39113273

> Paki

You filthy inbred non-Aryan shit stain, stay away from my women.
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>date
>girl too dumb to realize she will run out of battery so we can't locate each other
>rest of the tinder girls are the boring "netflix and gurls xd" kind of girls and a chore to talk to
That was the final nail in the coffin but to be honest I don't know why I expected something different, tomorrow is my last date and this girl looks at least different than the average tinder bitch, it's my last hope.
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>>39118658
are you trying to find gf material on tinder lol
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>>39118652
Instead of turning them off, realize they aren't yours nor are you really thinking them. They come and go like the rain. You wouldn't bother expending energy trying to shut off the rain.

This is not me, this is not mine, I am not that.


This is why I told you months ago to develop your Anapanasati. It's much more satisfying than intoxicants. I used to 420blaze it every day morning to night. Quit cold once I found meditation, I didn't need it anymore.
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>>39118701
Lmfao that tatoo

Take her on a date to a steakhouse or a proper BBQ joint
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>>39118701
Least I want is a gf, I just settle for someone I can have a nice time, a good convo and not only sex and yet that is asking too much.
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>>39118720
Yeah I'm reading a book about that actually. Learning to understand that just because I create a thought doesn't mean I own it or have to internalize it as truth.
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>>39118720
>quit blazing
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>>39113970
I do too. It's the Ritual of it. Same idea as heroin users loving to coo up, tie off etc. I'm more motivated in the gym on pin days.
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>>39118754
Im not doing it for moral reasons.

I am genuinely more comfy sober than blazed now. If you told me a year ago, I wouldn't believe it either, but things happen. Im not telling anyone to give anything up, but to accept the gift of meditation.

>>39118731
There is a reason I'm pushing anapanasati. You understand these things on a fundamental level when you develop a consistent practice. No one has to teach you them, they arise naturally and organically in your mind and behavior.

There are three qualities that feed into each other
Wisdom
Morality (or discipline)
Calmness (or concentration)

Once you become calm, wisdom arises naturally. Once you become wise, discipline arises with no effort. Once you become disciplined in practice, calm arises. To truly develop one is to cause the growth of all three.
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>>39118826
https://youtu.be/s_ymrmtBiGA

I know this is long, but he explains the total path of meditation, beginning to end. Very useful. Just let it play while you're doing something else.
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>>39118826
>>39118897
I will check this out thanks anon for being invested in my well being
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>>39118908
Np bibs you seem like a decent guy going through some mental BS just sharing what has helped me.
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>>39118754
FL, I have one more DNP related question. Did you notice much of your weight loss during use or is the whole water retention thing still prevalent even when using an extreme case?
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>>39119114
I figured the best thing at the moment is to go to the source. Messaged my ex telling her I needed to speak with her. I have zero interest right now in fucking her or hearing what she has to say.

I just need to clear the air that I can operate in this community without her causing a scene. And I want to tell her off on my own terms.
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is it ever a not-terrible idea for skinnyfats to roid up? my friend is trying to convince me to go auschwitzmode before bulking, but i'm impatient and want to bulk up fast (+~20lbs) before cutting. Right now probably around 15-16% BF by comparison to images, stupid fancy scales keep saying 14% with their science and shit.

terrified at the though of the cataract pills. which is the one that makes you want to fuck everything that has a hole, or punch a hole into something that lacks one to later fuck it? Sorry for dumb noob questions, any help would be appreciated
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>>39119141
I don't think those are your real motivators.

I think you just want to yell at her for the uncomfortable feelings you have.
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>>39119187
/fraud/ really isn't the place for noob questions.

Or any questions really. Most people here are fucking retarded, just wait until the glands dude shows up.
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>>39119211
thanks for the heads-up
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>>39119188
No they are. I don't have a need to be mean to her, just a nerd to tell her what I expect.
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>>39118487
Vision got fucked while on. Super blury and hard to focus. Ralox is 10x better.
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>>39119280
What dose was you running?
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>>39119187
build a foundation before riding the bike
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>tfw only 6'3" and now 23
M-my dad said he grew 1.5" between 23 and 25, let's hope he wasn't bsing. I don't want to be a manlet.
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>>39119451
Wtf it didn't attach my image
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>>39119187
>is it ever a not-terrible idea for skinnyfats to roid up?
no

increased aromatization plus you can't bulk as much without getting just plain fat. don't do it.

>but i'm impatient and want to bulk up fast (+~20lbs) before cutting
pointless. you will do years of natty progress in just 3 months on roids. don't bother with an useless natty bulk/cut cycle

>Right now probably around 15-16% BF by comparison to images
keep cutting. become as skinny as you can.

>terrified at the though of the cataract pills
dnp, you don't need it to cut, just be a little patient.

> which is the one that makes you want to fuck everything that has a hole, or punch a hole into something that lacks one to later fuck it?
tren I assume. don't use it on your first cycle.

now head to r/steroids/wiki and read up on everything there
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>>39119483
I don't think I'll ever recommend tren again.
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>>39117168
alright anon if you're still here I'll try my shitty customized westside based routine on this cut (allows me 2 mesocycles to perfectly align deload week with my next blast) and then try J&T2.0

but can you explain how deadlifting works in J&T

I haven't read through that writeup of his on it yet but looking at the templates see that I don't start doing weekly deadlifting until like week 7 or something and the rest of the weeks just have deficit deads on squat days

I want to bench/squat/diddly every week
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>>39119124
During my first cycle weight loss was apparent during the cycle.
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>>39114481
Dude you could ask every last person on earth who looked better, you or zyzz, and everybody would say zyzz. He wasn't a twink you are just a disgusting disproportionate freak with severe mental illness that hides behind smartass comments like this one.

You are fucking delusional if you think you look better than zyzz in any way
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>>39119629
He does though.
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>>39114658
Dude your fucking forearms are comically small.
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>>39119546
Ok the basic setup is 4-5 days a week with 5 different movements upper/lower/upper/lower/upper with rest days however you like them

Each day is devoted to an individual lift.

Example Upper day

>Strict OHP
>BTN Press
>Close Grip Bench

>Lying triceps extensions
>3-way shoulder raises

OHP would be T1, you'd follow whatever the t1 protocol for that week is, the other three compounds are T2, you follow T2 protocol, and the isolations are T3 bodybuilding work, you follow t3 protocol

I have mine setup as

OHP/Deadlift/Push-press/Squat with my 5th day as a 'fun day' where I do whatever I feel could be fun or benefit me. For example I could do some power cleans, cheater rows, and landmine presses (shit that is tangentially beneficial and pretty fun but good luck finding a way to program them in a regular template) or zercher lifts from pins and one arm push press, or trap bar Deadlift and btn jerks.

So yeah you'll definitely get plenty of work in with the majn lifts, Cody Lefever is a powerlifter after all.
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