Porn and masturbation

Of course, Nofap are made for those who are addicted, it's not made for everone.

>watching anything with a dick in it

haha, fags

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>>39102737
>you should masturbate once or twice a week
What if I'm not a testless eunuch?

But seriously, I'm 29 and I masturbate at least twice a day on workdays and more on weekends (over normal porn). Did you all just lose your sexual drive after your teens or what?

>>39103423
Tfw turned 25 and probably got a huge test boost. Late bloomer or someone spiking my lunch?

Felt like my gains had stalled a bit after 3 years of lifting seriously but as of late i've gotten a huge boost.

Also otherworldly beard gains and sex drive.
It's a bit annoying though. At the moment i'm popping more boners than when i was 13-15

>>39102737
>watching porn
>ever
anon work on your brain gains and use your imagination

if you can't, it's because your mind is so atrophied from lack of use and its a sign that you NEED to stop using visual aids

i'm 25, i've got a loving gf and we have sex 2 or 3 times a week.

I still masturbate once or twice a day.

Is this bad? what will actually happen? Should I stop?

>erotic stories turn me on more than porn

What did my subconscious mean by this?

>>39102737

I've never seen a bigger attack on the whole NoFap thing than anything else in regards to self imorovement. I swear on my life something is fishy about this.

Why do people care if by me not touching my dick, I feel better?

IVE BOOSTED MY TESTOSTERONE RECENTLY

Got back to watching porn and enjoying it, after my sex drive died from a few months ago.

I forced myself mentally to find it attractive again. It is possibly due to my body releasing so much testosterone to repair my legs, since i did legs and full body the other day.

Absolutely wonderful.

question about no porn

should i still do no porn if i can still get hard to pictures of women not exposing their private parts?
i still get a chubby seeing some of these instagram models, and once in while ill still sprout a random boner during the day

should i do no porn?

>>39103423
Hey, Also-29-and-Masturbating-Twice-Daily buddy, doesn't it just FEEL right? I dunno, I must be higher test than ever, my sex drive is through the roof.

I guess I could be not masturbating, like I have the willpower, but it would suck ass and probably make me autistic with women because I would fucking pounce on them. I'm already grabbing and being grabbed by girls at work, I would probably get fired if I stopped masturbating. Do other guys just not feel this?

Masturbating more than 3-4 times a day will bring you the biggest effect to test boost and overall gains boost. Just dont cum, so your body can produce for a longer time.

>>39102737
>>39102737
The world isn't black and white (porn binges to gradually weirder stuff and noporn/nofap). This seems like a comfortable gray zone. I 've attempted nofap, one after a testicle surgery by doctor's orders for 15 days and another one just for the lulz as well as a quite successful noporn of 4,5 months that I don't even why it ended in the first place.

Guess I'm gonna give this a try. I must say a good fapping session before bed vastly improves my sleep quality (both REM sleep and deep sleep duration) as measured with a sleep tracker app.

>>39103658

Das good, das good. Now use that testosterone to lift weights and see those big gains.

Just dont stop masturbating, because your test will decrease and making gains will become harder.

>>39102737
the masturbation hate is a meme, i have been masturbating 4-6 times per day for 6 years now. i have no acne, my testosterone levels are above average, and i do not suffer from lethargy. the studies that say masturbation is bad are funded by the marriage industry.

>>39103715
Do you have problems in bed? If I masturbate too much, I have trouble staying hard and Cumming. No problems at all if I haven't fapped for a few days.

I don't really care about all the other benefits that are talked about, but I do have to cut back and I never fap more than twice a day

>>39103657
This would be interesting to me too. I stopped video porn and started using my imagination but I didn't lose the habit of saving pics. So I decided to use them.

Now most of the studies about reward systems using porn fucking with your sex life even leading to anxiety and depression, focus on porn. So the shit OP said about using solo porn isn't included? And as for still images nude or not nude are they the same?

I have in the past faced sexual problems, some due to lack of interest. Though they are long gone thanks to my self esteem being higher. I do wonder if it was porn.

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/fit/ How can I tell kegel exercises are working? I started yesterday but just want to know how would I tell im making progress. Earlier I took a shit and I could feel the muscles i squeeze when doing kegels are kinda sore.

>>39103782
no i do not. when i masturbate i can cum in bed(lying down) just as easily as i can when i'm sitting in a chair watching porn. i think the reason why some people have a harder time masturbating in bed is because the blood traveling up their penis is a lot more perpendicular to the gravity of the earth.

>>39103782
Not him but basically the same as him, my dick has no problem getting hard even if I never get hard outside. If I want to, I just need to wait 2-3 days without fapping and I'll be getting hard at work from watching flabby 50 yo asses, which I would never consider usually

>>39103796
yeah thats what im wondering
perhaps it doesnt matter if its porn, nude, or non-nude images
the fact is that it still comes from our screen?

just wondering if anyone else had some experience, because i can still get hard and climax to non-nude pictures, although they are usually in a bikini or some tight clothing

>>39103846
By "in bed" I meant "in bed with a female and having sex with her"

My gf is a 6/10, and doesn't hit any of my niches, so I find it hard to get my dick for her
But in the other hand jerking off makes me feel like a beta

>>39103854
Same bro. I do wonder if using pics, you still have to use some imagination. Maybe that is what OP means by solo porn.

I did used to solely fap to girls dancing, and I had no issues with sex drive back then.

>>39103423
>over normal porn

Exactly. Cut the porn and you'll probably masturbate maybe once a day maximum.

When I was full on porn mode I'd masturbate everyday, multiple times a day.

>>39103715
>marraige industry

>>39102737

I can't get off to not fetish videos anymore

>>39103865
oh i see, no not really. however, i do prefer masturbation to sex, unless it's been a long while or if i'm somewhat intoxicated

>>39103865
Why would he fuck a girl when he can masturbate? Much cheaper, no whining and you can do it the way you want it to. No false rape charges or danger of pregnancy either.

>>39103912
stop watching porn, start reading fetish stories.

then, after a while try with normal non-fetish porn videos

>>39104029
No. In the past 6 years I haven't read anything longer than a newspaper article. I really fucking hate it when someone on this board decides to write a wall of text like OP. Just sum it up in 5 sentences.

Noporn and NoFap were just memes to me.

The former just made me crave really kinky degenerate porn, and the latter just made me a low test eunuch.

Now I just fap to what I fancy and have drive to fap multiple times a day and still have juice in the system for a chick.

>>39103907
>When I was full on porn mode I'd masturbate everyday, multiple times a day.
That's because porn is like drugs for your dick. Even if you don't really feel like jacking off, take a look at some porn and there is pretty much a 99% guarantee you'll find something that'll give you a boner. Without it you probably wouldn't have bothered to jack off in the first place.

I would know, I literally just got done watching some porn and jerking off even though I didn't really feel that horny.

>>39105093
Who would have thought that sexual stimuli would arouse a male into masturbation

Fuuuck I had ed last night with a girl. It was super hard to get it up and after a couple minutes fucking her I got soft. It's not performance anxiety and it's getting worse. Please tell me if there is an exercise to help fix this or anything I can do it was really embarrassing. I don't even get morning wood anymore

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I FAP 3 TIMES A DAY

A D A Y

WHAT THE FUCK SOMEONE HELP ME PLEASE

>>39105396
See a urologist. Probably stress/psychosomatic ED.

Take some Pycnogenol and L-citrulline.

It's been 1-3 times a day for a month so far. Tired as fuck

>>39105444
Hookers can help you fap

I ejaculate 324 rounds of PURE and CHARGED semons every 12seconds

I stopped watching porn 2 months back and I can rarely find the motivation to jerk off anymore. Sometimes I'm just sitting around with my hand on my dick and figure that there's nothing better to do, but besides those moments it's strange for me to bust a nut more than once every few weeks.

The only dream that I've had was about watching porn and jerking off to Chinese cartoons and I woke up with the hardest boner I've had in months. Feels fucking bad man.

>>39102737
No porn is better than just solo vids. It's better for your mental health, and you cum harder as well. The only downside is that it takes a bit longer and can be difficult to get used to if you're used to porn.

NoFap is bullshit. Just putting that out there. But, what it can do is aid in the process of brain recovery due to porn. Porn has messed up so many people's lives. It is not healthy for the brain.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ya67aLaaCc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jE6ve14MIk4

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3050060/
http://www.pnas.org/content/100/3/1405.full
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11252991

>>39105701

also this TedTalk does a good job

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=wSF82AwSDiU

A certain wise man once said either bust nuts with a girl or don't bust at all.

I'm 30 and I no longer fap to porn for a year or so. Before I used to do quick 10 minute faps to hardcore stuff but I find that boring now.
I found non-nude pics a lot better. Sets of the same girl from social media or so are even better. Nowadays I make sure that I'm not interrupted and try to jerk off for at least 1 hour while listening to music I like as well. I conditioned myself to get off to the music and the pics. Kinda strange but it's better than porn used to be.

>>39103608

I can do this but it always makes me feel dirty

it's either over some ex-GF which makes me feel pathetic for not being over them

or it's some hot girl I know which makes me feel gross for being stalkerish and weird because I know they'll probably never even let me touch them so why do I feel like I deserve them?

I'm probably overthinking this

>>39105769
>>39105769
When I just use my imagination I get a old women fetish and start imagining sucking my old music teachers tits.

My porn tastes are regular as fuck though.

>>39105444
Boredom
Block your porn for a bit and get some hobbies

>>39103870
having a gf you dont think is attractive is beta.

dump her you fucking idiot

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I'm 19, almost 20. I've been jacking off to porn 6-9 times a week for the last 5 years. No gf, mild depression, self-confidence non existent. I'm living with my parents (not sharing room with anyone), I have a computer in my room and my grades have been suffering as well. My jacking off has been reduced to 1-2 times a week because I took the kleenex away and since I don't have something to wipe the 'stuff' with, I'd rather not masturbate than cum in my dirty socks or whatever. The changes are visible after only 3 weeks, my confidence is up, my self respect is up and I have started noticing girls throwing an eye at me. It's not quite at the point of me walking to a stranger and randomly chatting, but a few cash register clerks and bus drivers and other people that 'have' to be friendly with their customers had held some degree of conersation with me. I even have asked my crush out, something I thought was impossible a year ago. The only downside is that my libido is low, but maybe it's because it has returned to a average man level. Try it out if you have problems, it doesn't hurt

>>39105454
anyone wanna testify to these supps?

>>39105735
not all of us are social butterflies anon

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>>39103595
What'd you change in your diet?

One question for this thread, ive seen some studies where they say jerking off can lead to gyno. Fucks with your receptors and prolactin ,is this true?

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>>39106168
Sounds like bullshit excuses to me my friend.

>>39106580
holy shit

>>39105735
uhuru

>>39105677
It's not like posting on here is any better desu. Staying in front of a screen all day isn't good for the brain either.

Ive watched so much porn im desensitized to IR and everything else. can only get off to a whore deepthroating a huge bbc now becuase everythign else is boring

>>39103423
My dick started to curve left over time so I decided to cut back twice a week at most. Otherwise I'd be fapping morning, after lunch, and on the drive home. I don't think buying a Tesla would help my situation out either.

>>39105497
its a good way to go broke dont do it senpai

>>39102737
I masturbate once every two days, and edge for ~2 hours each time. Recently, when I come, my asshole gets really sore. Idk why? Anyone know?

>>39106896
Overworking your kegels probably

>>39106904
Yea, that seems like the best explanation.

>>39106913
Happened to me when I did what you do. Scaled it down to a half hour and the problem went away.

>>39106780
I watch too many blowjob videos, that I've almost forgotten how attractive normal sex is. I can't get excited unless I'm really rough with my partner.

>>39106932
Its almost elusive. Before, I would masturbate even less often, like 1/month, and I never had a problem.

>>39106958
Dude you sound exactly like me, it sucks. I only watch bj vids.

The only time I really excited with my gf was when she was sucking me off and I started forcing her head down my dick and she gagged. after 4 thrusts she started crying and we stopped.

It was the hottest thing ever to see her gag on my cock but i felt like shit after.

>>39102737
I'd appreciate it if you didn't talk about porn here. It's such an unflattering conversation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gje5Lfck4B0

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They say that with porn, like any addiction, you need harder and weird stuff to chase your high. I really haven't moved beyond anal and rimjobs since i was like 15 and I'm 25 now.
I usually have a long term GF but still wack it once most days I don't see her.
Am I immune?

>>39102737
i don't like doing it so i stopped, it took up too much time

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>>39103658
26 and fapping 10 times a week or more.
My sex drive isn't curtailing at all, and im still cutting down from fat mode. Once I hit my goal weight then shit gets real.
>>39103912
It's all in your head. I just fapped to lesbian scat but i can crank it to some mommy roleplay normie tier shit if im in the mood. You will hit an end point eventually, embrace the crazy stuff and enjoy it, it's 2016 after all.

>>39107057
Yeah I dunno. If anything my porn habits have become more vanilla as I've gotten older, when I was 15 I would watch pissing videos and things like that, but now I mostly just watch amateur girls masturbating. But yeah, my sex drive is still as high as ever, so it's not due to losing interest in sex.

However, I do find that often I'll jerk off to videos of overweight women yet I don't find them attractive irl.

>>39103970
lol only an anti-social virgin would say this

>>39102737
Im fucking addicted to pornography. Going 3 month challenge to get rid of the addiction, cold turkey. After that I'll fap once a while to clits just to stay healthy.

>>39107704

Not that anon,

But really? Because when I read shit like this I genuinely think

> What kind of autistic virgin spent his hours overanalyzing sexuality?

> What kind of beta male externalizes his failures to some notion of being a victim of his penis?

I mean honestly.

Reading these threads you'd think this was huffpost or someshit.

ERECTILE DYSFUNCTION CRISIS ALL MEN CAN'T GET IT UP DUE TO PORN. READ HERE TO FIX YOURSELF.

Yet only 5% of 40 year olds have ED.

But porn is at the highest point its ever been.

Honestly, this shit is an offshoot of PUA & Redpill and the "self improvement" meme thats very popular at the moment.

>tfw been on a nofap for a week
>literally going through physical withdrawal pain
I gave it today and watched porn and edged but didn't ejaculate.
Nofap made me feel so full of energy and accomplished but it's extremely hard I feel like I'm just gonna cum hands free.

I can see how it's possible not to fap when you have social life and hobbies that fill your entire day but I have no friends at all and all I do is studying or lifting which both either make me bored and need to fap or energized and need to fap.

>don't fap for a week
>Become nervous in front of women because I'm so horny and self conscious of everything I say
Yeah nah, lemme bust a nut and not give a shit about women.

>>39107883
The issue I take with the whole
>why would I waste money on a girl when I can jerk off?
is the social ramifications of it. It's like saying, "Why would I go outside and meet new people when I can converse with my imaginary friends?".
Yes it takes less effort and involves less risk but is it truly satisfying? Whatever yanks your crank, I guess. I've not personally experienced ED but that's not the only, or the most important reason to question having porn be your main sexual outlet. There's more to sex than just pleasure, for me at least

It's a reward for nothing, essentially.

>>39103625
Someone plz answer

>>39107883
I don't think it's so much an externalization of failures as it is recognizing the reason for a lack of motivation. The TED talk an anon posted above is full of broscience but there is parts of it I think are worth considering. Your physiology responds to your being able to bust nuts all the time to an unlimited supply of novel and attractive partners by rewarding you, you feel accomplished but in reality you haven't done anything to justify that feeling.

>>39103625
You have an active imagination and/or possibly and amount of empathy or guilt about porn that causes you disgust

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>>39106780
have you tried watching rough IR gangbang porn? I have been watching this porn for so long now and it always gets me off best.

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How do you know if the stuff you jerk off to is normal or not? Porn already gets a bad rep for being gross, even if it's just a couple fucking while wearing clothes.

Like I don't want my friends to think I'm weird when they find out I jerk off to porn you know what I am saying>?

>>39106780
>>39108249
The fuck is IR?

>>39103625
You get off more on the emotional than the physical aspect of it

>>39102737
I disagree completely. I have been male multiple orgasming since grade school and would average eight or so everytime I masturbated. It fucked up my dopamine response super hard and Nofap helps me get back to normal.

I think that some people don't really need Nofap if they have healthy masturbation habits but porn and overfapping can have serious effects on a man's reward system.

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>>39102737

it is possible I started to fap more since I started to lift?

I mean, my dick was totally dead before lifting and today I fapped 4 times only to this vid

spankbang duckmoviesdotnet piper perri new tlhc

>>39108418

infrared porn

>>39107057
>>39107559
people who get into porn like traps and such are already fucked in the head. the same porn I like now I've pretty much been watching since around the same age you guys. I can still fap to vanilla but I just prefer the harder stuff. I mean for me it's there so why not? and it's not like I'm ever going to like sick shit like shit. these mental defects just try to cope and make up lies that if you watch porn too long you inevitably get into increasingly weirder porn.

not true at all.

>>39107883
>Yet only 5% of 40 year olds have ED
Yeah, because when they were kids, they had to steal porn mags. They probably didn't start watching porn w/o renting tapes until they were in their late 20's early 30's. It's worse for kids growing up these days because it's just another excuse to stay inside, not interact with actual women, and get a skewed view on sexuality

>>39108418
interracial

>>39106817
My dick is curved to the left.
not only curved but also a bit rotated from the base since I always have it hanging left so the left tendons at the base must have gotten tight and the right ones looser.
dont know if I'll ever be able to correct it

>>39107057
I think it really depends on personal taste and level of fucked up'ery
I've always loved amateur and incest and that didnt change in 8 years of porn viewing

>>39108819

Listen.

You know whats the common thread with all these

> Help guys had sex but couldn't stay hard.

Posts on this website?

First few times having sex, and or having sex with a new girl for the first time.

Wow, revelation.

You know what the biggest cause of ED is in young men? Anxiety.

You know what causes anxiety? Having sex for the first time.

So uh yeah card or paypal for my consulting fees, lemme know which you prefer.

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NoFap 71nd day.
Ama

>>39110700
Has your sex drive decreased and why the answer is yes?

>>39108441
or maybe he gets off on the implications rather than the visual aspect of sex

>>39103651
You should read up on addiction psychology.

>>39111746
Y-you too

>if you do have a healthy sexual relationship with a partner then porn and masturbating shouldn't be needed.
If you don't think I'll be smacking it multiple times a day when she's on her period you are mistaken

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30
Fuck a lady whos 40 and one whos 45. The one thats 45 is cute and fit but we dont talk much these days. I've lost the drive to masturbate or sex really, the one thats 40 isnt attractive and kinda fat, i just find it a hassle to see either, I'd rather work out or play vidya with friends than fuck. I dunno why when 6 months ago sex was all i could think about

>>39106039
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12851125

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shit, i masturbate at least 10 times per day minimum. i've heard that there are issues if you have erection for extended periods of time but to tell you the truth i've never experienced any and i've been hard for over 10 hours on many occasions.

fuck, what has my life become

>>39112087
Get a job or a hobby or something because that's absurd

>>39102737
This should be posted in every nofap/noporn thread ever. Well done sir, well done.

>>39103423
breh

What about 14 times a week?

the problem for me is that i'm becoming a pervert and a compulsive masturbator, i'm starting to find more average or even ugly girls fuckable (i'm not fucking fat girls yet), like two years ago i'd never fuck some girls i've fucked, i'm even masturbating everywhere, i've masturbated on malls, bars, bank and any other public bathroom, i've flashed my dick to some ugly chicks just to masturbate for them to see me cum, and some other nasty shit

>>39112723
I'm ok with becoming a degenerate, tbfh

>>39112087
what the fuck

>>39112087
I have an office job. I still cum twice before I even get up, then over lunch at work, twice when I get home, and twice when I go to bed. That is on days I don't fuck on Grindr, which isn't often.

Grindr days is the same except replace the post-work masturbation sessions with with sex.

On Saturdays, if I decide to do a full day of work from home (and actually work), my cig breaks (after I quit) turned into jerk off breaks, so I go over that 10 point as well.

I'm 35.

>>39108249
>happy merchant.jpg

I want to nofap so hard but I really lack the self discipline to do so. Shit, I just finished masturbating to cuckshit after I decided not to... But tomorrow will be different!

>>39112854
Don't do NoFap, all you'll have on your mind is not fapping to cuck shit, which will keep cuckshit in your mind.

Next time you fap, fap to your imagination, and keep it vanilla, or at least not as kinky as cuckshit. Maybe fap over your aunty or something.