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/fraud/

No more derail edition

Previous Bread:>>39084191
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SAGE. SAME GUY THAT DERAILED THE OTHER ONE.
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To get some actual topic discussion going.
I am on 300test since ever and 12days on dnp 250 8days 500 4days.

Now I got symptoms of a cold and probably get sick, I can already feel that shit.
The obvious choice is to stop dnp. But would dnp hinder/prolong /fuck up a recovery?
Anyone has some infos on that topic?
Also Psmf on 1200kcal except Saturday 3k maintenance "refeed"
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>>39088721
doubt. but why would you want to put ur body for xtra pressure as it is in shit situation arleady?
just let it recorvery and contunie dnp

also, I didnt believe ppl would still fall on refeed meme in 2019
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>>39088721

yes it will.
dnp is a pesticide, its literaly poison.
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1: does a deeper injecting cause more or less PIP? Im using 1.5 inch needles. Is that too long? Would the PIP be less with 1 inch?
Pinning quads.

2:Are you more likely to hit a vein the deeper you go? Again, using 1.5 inch needles.

3: Is there any reason why deeper penetration/longer needles are better? any benefits?
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Red Alert here, My blood pressure is fucking 150/130 on cycle. Need advice on what I can do to fix this before I fucking die.
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>>39088671
Let's make ammends.
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>>39088743

Yes, a metabolic poison. It disrupts metabolism. It's not a nerve agent though, which is what most associate with the word poison.

Dnp will kill you indirectly at an overdose. It heats you up, the heat cooks you from the inside or dehydrates you, you die.

A nerve agent shuts down parts of your body you need to live.
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>>39088775
Cialis 10mg/day.

Or go see a doctor and see what they can prescribe you.
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>>39088782

Should you not say amen-ds?

Kidding.

Just finish it in the other thread. Im not bringing anything up here.

>>39088775

What are you running? How bad is bloat?

>>39088721

Refeeds on dnp are retarded. Gear history please?

And you should keep running dnp, it'll likely still be active by the time your cold passes. Halflife is pretty hefty.

>all the trains captcha
>CHOO CHOO.
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>>39088653
As a czechoslovak this picture makes me sad
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I'll repost in case you faggots stop arguing about religions and fancy some steroid talk:

Hey guys this is going to be my third cycle. First was 14 weeks 500test, second was 12 weeks 500 test 4 firs weeks dbol. Now for winter bulk it's going to be:

1-4 Dbol 50mg ed
1-10 Deca 400mg
1-12 Test-E 750mg


What ancilliaries do you recommend? Was thinking about starting with 0,5mg adex ed and bump it up if bloating, but not sure what the caber dose would look like (prami gives me bad nausea)

Thanks bros.
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>>39088788

If he's bloated or running multiple compounds i'd recommend dropping some and seeing where it leads.

If bloated, telmisartan. I recommend always running it, it combats bloat, high BP and LVH. And increases endurance.
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>>39088803
Czech and Slovak are still great countries. Hot women.
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>>39088806

More deca and run it much longer. Or swap deca with Npp. Keep caber on hand, an ai and as always a serm just in case.
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>>39088775
Coq10. potassium, hawthorn berry, garlic

I always take coq10. Also helped with irregular heartbeats during the night in bed. Never had any problems since then. Also do enough cardio.
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>>39088856

Ever tried telmisartan? It prevents LVH/athlete's heart, bloat and other shit.

And it increases endurance.

On top of being BP meds.

It's noncancerous gw501516 light.
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>>39088801
>>39088813

wait bloat makes gives you higher BP?

Does this mean even though i dont get any gyno, i should still pop some asin to get rid of bloat and therefore lower my BP?

I didnt take any asin so far because i dont get itchy nips or shit like that
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>>39088880

Water retention causes blood pressure to rise. Yes. That's one of the reasons people with high BP are told to go on a low sodium diet.
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Just took my last 250mg test-e and 450mast-e shot. After this i will cruise on 250mg test and 200mg mast-e. for some time.

Then i will bulk on test-e, starting with 500mg, upping to 750-800. Maybe kickstart with dbol and add EQ. I will get freaking massive. People have never seen such monster in their life. When they see me, pussies will get wet and dicks will get diamonds. You will scream for help and mamma will read your bed time stories.

The world is not ready for me. Last bulk i went to 102kg, but that was with cycling. Now I am bnc and will aim for 110kg. WHAT, 110kg? Yeah you hear that right faggots.

>>39088876
No. How to get it? Coq10 is really good also. Even scientifically proven. Expensive, but it works
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>>39088904
I love you Mast.
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>>39088788
>>39088801
>>39088856
Thanks bros.
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>>39088653
Jews and Freemasons
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>>39088653
Jews.
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>>39088904
>110kg

at 102kg you were a fat and bloated.

if you dont get 110kg lean then dont even brag about it faggot.

how does that even count.


not sure what coq10 you are using, but 120 caps cost 15 bucks for me on amazon
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>>39088904

Online pharmacy. Asking your source might work too.

I'm looking for a source, once I find a good one I'll post about it here. People can mail me for it.

My modafinil source probably has it. I think it was maybe 100€ for a year taken eod.

Halflife +- 28 hours, good dose is 40mg. Reddit likely has a source for it.

>Telmisartan - The Drug That Most Steroid Users Should Be Using But Aren't
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Lol my little brother is already at 107kg. 6-7 weeks in.

He's 6'5'' but still crazy for he's 19 year old.

I feel bad for injecting test-e in his glutes every week. Am i a bad brother. Bad influence.

>>39088934
Why do you think I am cutting now for, faggot. Before this is was cycling. You know what happens when you go off? You get fat. Now i won't go off, thus i will try to stay as lean as possible while gaining lean mass. You could not even get to 102kg with bnc for 10 years.

I am a man on a mission. Nobody can stop this alpha force.

I dunno, but they're relatively expensive over here. You also got different mg's.

>>39088943
Keep me updated then.
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>>39088971
How tall are you mast?
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>>39088971
tfw no older brother to cycle with
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>>39088971
well he looked pretty already good while he was natty.
and big anyways, at 6'5".

fkn insane someone can be like that, with mediocre lifting, natural and 19 years old.

and people say tall people are always fucked when it comes to muscle and size.
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>>39088740
Dunno, maybe being sick on dnp burns even more fat. That's why I ask. But it would take about 5days to be completely dnp free anyways. The smarter chose nonetheless.
Refeed is just a mental thing, I am not strong enough to do a complete 3-4week dnp Psmf cut without them.

>>39088801
You have seen the old thread response, I am just too stupid to link it on a phone.
Also refeed as a mental thingi, I regret the heat and sweat every time haha.
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>>39088971
if u educate ur bro and help how to do roiding right isnt it good than him goin' in solo blind?

props for pinning ur own bro tho lol
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>>39089009
if ur fat burning out balances ur own general health then go for it.

but remember this senpai, when you're dead you aint gonna burn any fat
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>>39088989
6'. Guess he got all the height genetics. But 6'5 is too tall for bb imo.

>>39089008
I am also baffled by that. He has crazy genetics imo. He's also reacting good to gear. He's still too fat, but he's developing some serious mass.


>>39089018
He's lucky i do for him. Most of us had to it our self. You remember the first time you had to pin yourself? crazy
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>>39089030
Gonna get cremated, ultimate FATBURNER when dead but yeah as I said,the smarter chose is to stop
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>>39089035
>that jelly shitskin manlet checking out your massive bro

i would crush his skull like the maggot he is
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Missed the thread where people were talking about Chem's attractiveness. Pretty lad imho, just needs to post more physique here. He keeps forgetting that /fraud/ made him.
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>>39089035
What are some exercises to get a wide back like this?
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>have been eating under 2kcal religiously for the past week
>179.2 at the start of the week
>weigh myself this morning
>182lbs
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

I hate it when the morning shit doesn't come until post-breakfast
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>>39089107

Wide? You should know that before you hop on gear.

But apart from that it's mostly genetics.

Chris hemsworth has a weird back but it looks amazing.

Low insertions look amazing, high insertions look retarded imo. But that's genetics, not much you can do about it.
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>>39089165
>cutting
>breakfast

Kek.

I went up like 15lbs if not 20 on dnp because I started gear a week or two before that.

Cut on 800-1200kcal a day for 10 days before hopping on dnp again. Gained 1lbs before dnp.

Now i'm on dnp again? Lost 4+ lbs. 1 a day.

Tl;dr

Just keep going and eat less.
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Been exactly one month today.
Not sure I see much difference, but I've put on between 15-20 without much fat.

It's my birthday be nice if it's warranted.
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>>39089195

Height/weight?

Looks like a muscular 15%.
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>>39089184
by "breakfast" I mean a cup of coffee

I won't eat any food until 1-2pm
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Can gyno disappear on its own? Without the use of anything

Had a really painful in each nipple that gradually disappeared, now they're back to normal, noe lumps at all.

On 500 tren e 250 test e
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>>39088757
1 No it won't, 1.5 inch is fine for quads and ventral glutes, for delta just stick it in not all the way.
2 no it depends on the location, there are superficial and deep veins.
3 deep enough so that you don't accidentally inject subc that's all.
3
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can someone help
what upper body compounds should I add to stronglifts?
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Fat guy here going on my first cycle for my cut.
Weight 265 lbs
Height 6 ft
Just did my first pin a few days ago and taking a fatburner from primeval labs
Doing taekwondo 3 times a week and walk a mile in the mornings.
Expect to be cut real soon, ill keep yall updated
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>>39089238

>/routine general/
>/fraud/

Pick one? If you can't answer this you probably shouldnt be on gear.
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>>39089227
If there no longer is sufficient estro stimulation it could become atrophic. Just like pubertal gyno disappearing by itself.
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>>39089091

He had already achieved a lot before he came here.

>>39088904

Ubiquinol is a more active version of CoQ10, I'd recommend that mg:mg for the price.
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>>39089257
How about you answer the question?
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how long would it take to achieve guy on the left considering:

- using HGH and test (plus other steroids but ideally just hgh and test)
- lifted a year ago for a year
- relatively lanklet mode (with slightly thin bones)
- good diet

thanks.
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>>39089257
There are people who like to ask questions in fraud because there are some people who actually know what they are doing. Not everyone has to be on gear
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>>39089244
Bait?
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>>39089206
5'9 currently going back and forth between 200-205 up from 185 on September 15th, pic related.
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>>39089289

Yeah.

>>39089287

Someone just starting out shouldn't be here. And someone who has been lifting a few months should know to add lifts in which he's lacking.

>im doing sl, what should I add

Is a retarded question. It shows 0 research from the one asking it, expecting to be spoonfed at every turn.

Which is a great way to end up hospitalized when done here.

Ontopic, BARBELL CHEST FLIES and running with weighted clothing is good stuff to add to SL.
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>>39089309

Definitely between 13 and 18 on both. Nice.

Also happy bday. Have a burger!
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>>39089107
Assuming you got the genetics. Just do the regular back exercises. Pull-ups, dead lift, Lat pull down etc etc.

>>39089195
Def more traps and shoulders. Happy birthday to you m8, have a nice day.

>>39089266
Thanks m8. I will buy that then from now on . Good tip
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>>39089264
Isn't that weird when i didn't take anything to reduce my estro though? Im still on the same dose
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>>39088653
Its funny because the sign says we wont give up but they gave up part of their country and let the occupation going on without fight in 1938
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>>39089335
is this you in the pic? definitely a goal physique there but I'm like 3-4 years far from anything similar @ 6'1 210lbs 14%
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>>39089331
Might have something meaty and nice.
Maybe a roastie from the club.

>>39089335
Thanks big guy, I envy that clear skin that let's your joocy back shine.
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>>39088757

For quads and glutes, 1.5 inch is fine. Everything else you should be fine with 1 inch or even 1/2 inch pins as long as you're lean. I can use 1/2 inch pins on everything, however I still prefer 1 inch for glutes as I put most of my oil in them.
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>>39089363

3/4 inch on anything, 1/2 inch on delts. Never any issues.

Well, once on delts. But I fucked up. Shit happens.
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>>39089323
who tf has weighed clothing and why an isolation exercise? compounds
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>>39089363
Alb, what do you do for money?

And I haven't been on /fraud/ in a long time. What happened to harpy who had the body of a 12 year old and owned horses or some shit?
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>>39089266
You know who else needs to post more physique? How's the recovery brah?
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>>39089331
>De-Burger-Eindhoven-weare(...).jpg
>Eindhoven
We should meet and 1v1

>>39089355
Yes.You don't want it enough. Have that picture in your mind. Do everything it takes to achieve it
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>>39089378

Don't like the answers, go somewhere else.

SL has enough compounds already.

>he doesn't do weighted pushups and sprints in an anabolic timechamber
>confirmed never Gonna make it.
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>>39089376

My delts leak most of the time now, I can't do much about it so I just avoid it. I can use slin pins on most sites but it's a massive hassle just to backfill the syringe.

>>39089381

Work in financing planning & investments. I used to play rugby semi-professionally and worked in sports science/PT work on the side but my real career took over so I've fairly well given that away. I've presented papers on health topics in the past and hopefully still might be able to present more though.

She's long gone, she was silly and needed to go. Actually just earlier tonight I was contemplating downloading Tinder and seeing what the fuss is about.
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>>39089414
you can recommend normal upper body compounds
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>>39089408

>1v1

Can I at least finish my recovery?

What are your lifts at atm?

>tfw might run mtren soon.

Heavenly oral.
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>>39089417
>contemplating downloading Tinder

Post results.
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>>39089417
>mfw Alb didn't use the tinder in peak and has Australia get drowned in poon juice
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>>39089432

>normal

Where do you think you are normie?

REEEEEEEEEEE
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>>39089339
Yeah its weird, might be just decrease in sensitivity after an initial spike in reactivity, but you wouldn't really expect that I think.
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>>39089442
stop with the bs replies
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>>39089460

Stop asking noob questions.
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>>39089309
Yeah happy bday !
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>>39089466
i asked one q and you gave a shitty response
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>>39089483

Retarded question, retarded answer?
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>>39089309
Your ribcage is so fucking huge kek
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MasT how you compare to Rich Piana oil physique? Looks really fucking similar in chest, back, traps and arms area. Except for forearms maybe.
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>>39089538

>Ricky paninos oil

New brand?
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>>39089237
thanks for output apoc

>>39089278
epic pic

>hgh
you will be ugly turtle big lenny mode, retard

>>39089309
>>39089195
i opened both pictures in another tab and switched between them rapidly, you gained a shit ton of mass and your delts are popping like hell.
Also happy birthday to you bro

>>39089266
what about the sides tho, coq10 is harmless mostly
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>>39089760

>gh causes roid gut.

People still believe this?
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>>39089470
Thanks bud
>>39089534
It's to hold the gains I'm going to make!
>>39089760
Feels great to hear my man, test hasn't even peaked in me yet, I'm ready for the gains, still got a good 12-16 weeks of grinding left in this blast.

Oh and I hit 5 plates on deadlift for first time. For two reps. (I previously claimed my deadlift was 510, but that was just based on hitting 455 for 6.)
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>>39089771
it doesnt?
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>>39089819
I know you said your experience with tbol was underwhelming, but you only ran it as a 4-6 week kickstart yes?

Would you say it'd be worth running it for 10 weeks straight? Assume cost isn't a factor since people like to tout that it's quite expensive for what it does.

Planning on running it for 10 weeks for some solid, slow strength gains on top of my normal tren.

>happy bday
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>>39089834

Slin does
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>>39089847
fuck off skinhead and suck crusaders dick
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>>39089860
so if i run 5 pounds of

HUMAN
GROWTH!
HORMONE

for 15 years, i wont get a roid gut.

but a bit of slin will?

hard to believe ya know
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>>39089861
>suck crusaders dick

I wasn't even here when the shitposting saga began

and I'm fucking pagan

what are you on about
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im still looking for an autistic submissive lifter boyfriend
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>>39089879
h-hi
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Hey guys im currently on my first cycle. 600mg test e for 10 weeks, so far so good.
Although i got some fat i wouldnt mind losing.
Opinions on using t3? From what i read its crazy potent and the whole thyroid shutdown thing is blown out of proportion and youll return to normal within 2 weeks.
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>>39089897
Are you over 6'0"?
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>>39089847
Well my expectations were high so far as expecting a "feeling".
And I never got a pump, even the one day I did 150mg, then again that day I hit 3 plates for five reps.

10 weeks on tbol at 100-150mg sounds like a good way to shit out your liver.

But I digress, gains are to be had.
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Bros, do I need to stack caffeine with albuterol like I should do with ephedrine?

Do any of you bros have any experience cutting with albuterol? It's sold OTC where I live, and it's dirt cheap.
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>>39089912
You can just psmf if you wanna cut. T3 on its own is not useful to cut cause the body won't turn it into t4 unless you need it I think.
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>>39089931

Apoc, it's t4 to t3.

You're right on t4 to t3 though.
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>>39089878
>creepy fetish for racist woman
>looks like a skinhead
>wears neo-nazi styled clothings >>39089897
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>>39089926
I love alb, can't say its very effective for cutting but it helps a little I guess. Cardio becomes so much more comfy while on it though. If its easy to get and cheap you could use it for the last few weeks of your cut, don't use stims for too long cause its not good for your heart/will take longer to recover after.
The nervous feeling will get less over the first week of usage.
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>>39089945
Oh I mixed it up then.
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>>39089915
5'9" senpai

>>39089917
I won't do 10 weeks at 100-150, it would be 10 weeks at 50-100, likely. With 100mg during PR weeks.

Thanks for the input. Not really chasing that "feeling" myself.

>>39089952
I fail to see the point here

>>39089965
albuterol is the same in tablet form as in an inhaler yes?

>tfw went to allergists two days ago to see how fucked I am during spring, said my cardio function was down enough to warrant a 2x daily inhaler + an emergency inhaler
>tfw using it pre-cardio

t-thanks tren
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>>39089990
way too short.

is notop a troll?
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>>39089872
how is it hard to believe that you can run an infinite amount of something and not get a side effect completely unrelated to it?
its like saying
>so if i take 5 pounds of
>ASPIRIN
>for 15 years, i wont get a roid gut.
>hard to believe ya know
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>>39089990
>fail

"i love woman who openly admit to hate niggers and jews".

that was you
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>>39089990
Cute doggo.
Well feel it out.
I'd told myself 40mg a day.
Not sure how it would have turned out had I done that.
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>>39089990
>5'9"

pretty sure you were 5'8" at one point senpai
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>>39089965
I saw people saying they took as much as 32mg/day. Is that as crazy as that sounds?
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>>39090004
>unrelated
>roid gut
>unrelated to

>HUMAN
>GROWTH
>HORMONES
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>>39089990
Yeah except inhaler form has like 100mcg dosage per breath and effect stays mostly in the lungs and tablets usually come in 4mg size and have much more pronounced systemic effects like peripheral vasodilation and fastened heart beat as well as some increase in fatty acid metabolism
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>>39089990
>albuterol inhaler

Yep, but the concentration is way lower in the inhaler. You need, like, 10 puffs to get 1mg, while tablets are either 2 or 4mg.
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>>39089990
>albuterol is the same in tablet form as in an inhaler yes?
yes but the inhaler is like 100 µg per "puff" and you take like at least 100 times that orally
>>39090032
the guy told you that gh isnt what causes the "roid gut" and your reply was "NOT EVEN IF I TAKE A LOT????"
it doesnt make sense dude
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>>39090004
>>39090004

Tons of gh might cause roid gut. Maybe. Theoretically.

I do remember gh screwing with insulin but meh. Probably just retards being retarded.
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>>39090024
No its not very crazy, the body gets used to it as you use it more often. Don't start with more than 4 mg and see how you respond. Build it up to 16mg a day as sides become tollerable. You could increase if the effects/sides are tollerable but I wouldn't really recommend that, rather just take a week off if you feel the effect becomes less.
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>>39089996
>too short
>but wants a sub

wait what

>is notop a troll

only if you act like a fucking retard

>>39090004
>have 2g's of HGH powder sitting around
>4-6years worth at 3-4iu/day iirc, without checking the math
>just going to stockpile 2-4g's more and then start 2iu/day for years and years as anti-aging

feels good, at least slaves money was worth something

>>39090010
you say this as though it's a bad thing

>>39090011
you just upped it expecting a pump/"oral feeling" though, right? Haven't been around for a few months so I wasn't here when you started tripping

my only goal is just to toss it in as an oral I don't have to worry about many (if any) sides on, and still see a slight benefit from it in terms of strength.

>>39090020
idk what I've said previously, if you want to be technical about it, I think I was 5'8.75in measured about a month ago.

>>39090037
>>39090038
>>39090060

gotcha, thanks for the info

>>39090032

most guys who you see perpetrate the "GH CAUSES ROID GUT" myth are also on slin
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>>39090060

Well, first it was roid gut = gh gut. Then gh gut = slin gut.

I kinda get the question.
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>>39090074

>is notop a troll
>only if you act like a fucking retard

This is true.
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>>39090074
I didn't say subhuman/manlet, I said submissive.
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>>39090067
thanks.
I'll increase by 4mg a day, adding more doses, until I reach 16mg. I'll probably run it for up to 15 days. Been on a cut for almost a month now, wanna get these last %bf off
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>>39090065
gh reduces insulin sensitivity so there could be some other pathway i guess
its all speculation though since theres no real research done on the topic
>>39090074
i hate the "iu" thing murricans do to medication, really makes the math fucky
why not just say the milligram dosage? s m h
>>39090079
yeah nobody is sure of what causes it but his response was still retarded
hollywood dosages doesnt seem to cause the gut tho, just look at stallone and tom cruise
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>>39090097
1g is roughly enough for 2.75 years at 3iu (1mg)/day, checked the math just now.

But it's chinese, naturally, so I'll probably be required to run 4-5 even for anti-aging.

>>39090086
I can buy heels and wear dressed around for you

maybe borrow some of jerry's
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what are some performance enhancing drugs that do good when it comes to explosivness?

I dont want shit that makes me bench 2 plates more.

Im a gymnast and i love to jump and flip.

Does test alone do something in that regard, even if its just a bit?

EQ?
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>>39090097

Wanted to know, I probably have fucked up slin resistance. What should I munch on?
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>>39090108
I'm not sure about explosiveness, but naturally your rate of recovery and ability to train FOR explosiveness will be increased on just test alone.

Again, can't offer any input on the effectiveness of compounds for athleticism.
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>>39090108
I imagine halo would be decent for you. Increased focus, aggression and general athleticism seem useful. Tbol might also come in handy. As for injectables, I'd say you want something that increases strength but doesn't necessarily pack on mass, so try combining tren with nasacort to reduce its impact on cardio and you could have a real contender.
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>>39090107
why don't you take something that will make you six feet?

>just want submissive bf that will let me sit on his face and will buy me shit
:(
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>>39090091
Good luck, best to take it before workout as effect wears off after like 4-5 hours and not at night if you wanna sleep well.
Yeah using it for 2 weeks in a row is fine, would recommend not more or at least a break in between if you're not done with the cut yet
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>>39090074
Seems like I underestimated it.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BLkIpZ1B_iKBzmnObsMauo4kKCB0l41_4Fjy180/

How shit is my deadlift?
I know the second rep was mong-tier.
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>>39090149
>>39090137
Solid advice.

My test is already on the way.

Unfortunately, i am not ready to risk shitty sides and harsh compounds to get better at my sport, which is why i was asking for test and EQ specially, as these are mild compounds and EQ is known for enhance performance.

I would never run tren though and i try to stay away from orals.

Never did research on halo, gonna check that out.

A bit of mass is okay, and my movements also look better and cleaner when you are buff/buffer.
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>>39090186
First rep looked solid to me, just keep the bar sway away from the knees under a little better control

but alt-grip diddlies always look painful to me. my bicep hurts just thinking about it

hookgrip is my preference

>>39090192
EQ could be a decent addition if you aren't concerned with blood pressure fluctuations or anxiety
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>>39090186
>private
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>>39090226

>anxiety
pff

>BP fluctuations

are walkting about fluctuations, or HIGH bp?
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>>39090247
high BP

some people have issues with it more than others, and obviously it's dose-dependent
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>>39090192

Get gw501516, methylsten and itpp. Thank me later.
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>>39090226
My hands seem too small for hook grip.
Think I'll use straps if I get near 6 plates.
Torn bicep YouTube compilation traumatized me.
Might invest in inzer belt as well.
>>39090230
How'd Cat-Piss see it?
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>>39088803
jenom pokud je ti 15 a máš problémy s vlastní identitou...
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>>39090301
mine seemed too small initially as well, but the trick I've learned with it is to really "grab" the bar with your thumb, wrap it around almost like you're wrapping a strap, and then trip with the forefinger and middle finger. The rest of them are really just along for the ride.

Belt would be a good investment, definitely. Recommend a 10mm over 13mm, personally. 13 seems far too thick and more restrictive than beneficial, to me.
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>>39090335
Thanks for the tip.
It be alpha to pull double overhand.

And even more alpha not to have my bicep end up in my armpit.
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>>39090301
snag one of these: http://www.bestbelts.net/Powerlifting-Belts/Athlete.aspx
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>>39090361
Any better than an inzer, is the locking contraption just a marketing meme?
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250mg cruise, no ai

3 months so far.
i dont have itchy or puffy nips, so gyno wise im safe.

im bloated as fuck though and my face is so fucking ugly because of it.

so should i pop ai, even though i dont get gyno from that dose?
would i crash it?

thought about 12.5mg on pin days (so 2x a week)
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>>39090431

>I have sides ai can fix
>I don't have one of the possible sides though
>should I take ai?

Well....
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>>39090397
My powerlifter buddy swears by that brand.
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>>39090431
Just take the AI. Maybe start with 6.25 twice weekly see if its enough.
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>>39090397
I dont like lever locks because you have to take them off to adjust the belt, which can be often if you're bulking or cutting.. Single prongs are best imo. They're a great belt, I just love the one I posted for the money
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>>39090461
>>39090453
i'll so then.

any other way to reduce bloat, apart from asin?

inb4 sodium

im not autistic enough to track my sodium intake, that shit is never written or stated on the food.

does sugar itself increase bloat?

what about pizza?
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>>39090497

Sodium is listed everywhere here.

Dandelion root, telmisartan, potassium.
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>>39090522
>even more supps

i spent more money on supplements than i did for my test vials.
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>>39090567
>>39090522


but thanks anyways bruh
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>>39090574
You could also drink less. But that won't be very pleasant.
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>>39090574

Potassium and dandelion are cheap.

Potassium can be found in food or mixed with table salt to get less sodium.
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>>39090592
so potassium + salt = less sodium?

also, how does salt affect your bloat overall?
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>>39090603

Get a potassium sodium blend.

I'm off for now, im hungry as fuck. Had like 250kcal the past 14 hours.
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>trying IF
>first meal of two for the day
>can't even finish 800kcal worth of food

this is fucking magical
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>>39091262

I did that with 350-400 kcal. I am nauseous atm.

>dat mma thread

>women in mma? Athletic men will wreck their shit.

>150lbs manlet vs 200+lbs athlete, there's a reason for weight classes.

3 seconds later

>1v1 ME IRL FGGT LANKLET I REK U.


Later

>A 5'5 wrestler wuld ragdoll u.
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>>39091292
>>150lbs manlet vs 200+lbs athlete, there's a reason for weight classes.
>3 seconds later
>>1v1 ME IRL FGGT LANKLET I REK U.
We get those threads a lot.
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>>39091359

I mean. I never start one and if people pick a fight with me i'm not playing fair.

Just jump on top, and thumbs on eyes. They panick, knee to balls, fight over.

Unless the other jumps you first you've won.

I probably lose from a trained manlet over 140lbs. But weight classes exist for a reason. I don't think any mmafag would be able to topple hafthor. That guy outweighs the heaviest lean ones by over 100lbs.
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>>39091407
Even Pudz was getting ragdolled in MMA. Hafthor would get rekt. At heavyweight anyway.
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Considering the sides vs benefits, is clen better than DNP? I am in no rush to shed fat but I want it to be faster than if I were to take nothing.
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>>39091518
Lol so much better. Clen feels worse than DNp does.

Every lady under the age of 40 at the meetup last night messaged me this morning telling me how good looking I am. One already offered to be my slave.
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>>39091606
>is clen better than DNP
>Lol so much better
>Clen feels worse than DNp does.
w-what
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>>39091606
>one already offered to be my slave
will she pay you like mine did?
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>>39091627
he's right

DNP really is exaggerated until 700mg/day+

You can run 250-500 a day and have very few if any sides other than feel a little warmer than usual

still need to account for it with water intake no matter the dose, but it's not near as bad as clen imo, and much more effective
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>>39091673
I don't want a slave ATM
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>>39091705
is 250g/day safe enough for me not to worry about retinal detachment and other adverse sides?
More importantly will my semen become yellow and bitter? Will it contain DNP? I need to know for reasons.
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>>39091744
>retinal detachment
meme based around a study performed in the mid 1930's
>yellow semen
I never had this issue at 500mg/day but it is entirely dependent upon the person and not the dosage
>will it contain DNP
unsure about this, seems unlikely

250mg/day is really nothing, but start there and work up in dosage.

>>39091732
can't blame you, annoyingly large time investment
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I'm going to have to start posting this in any thread where DNP is mentioned. It's pretty fucking sick when you have people advocating lethal doses of DNP to unsuspecting teenagers.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3550200/

Page 20 contains the table listing all fatalities since 1933
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>>39091772
thx bby, do you have the pastebin from the general? where do you source them?
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>>39091792
250mg is lethal? I thought the killdosage starts at 1g?
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>>39091792
>500mg a day
>lethal dose

Only trip who makes a fool of himself regarding DNP is Moonface but its obvious he's full of shit
>>
But if 3 people with PhD's isn't enough to change your mind about using DNP let alone twice the dosage that has killed several people here's Mark Lobliners opinion on it

https://content.tigerfitness.com/are-bodybuilders-dying-for-dnp/
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>>39091806
Don't have it, but reddit like anything else

basically if it's your first time using it, do 250mg for the first week (takes 2-3 days to accumulate peak levels) and then if you feel fine and want to continue up, jump to 500mg, wait for a week there, and so on.

I've always been advised to run it for 3 weeks at a time, max. Some advocate for 4 weeks, though. I'd stay on the safer side.
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>>39091772
Seems like responsibility. I kinda want to dom in action only; like just be kept around for a while as like a bull. Just have me take them when they please and shit. Seems like life on easy mode.
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>>39091819
If you are a 40kg teenage girl then yes might be.
If you are a 140kg pro BB probably not
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>>39091870
>>39091859
I'm a 77kg 5'9 manlet
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>>39091855
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNAfWKuKCIE
guys here is a video of steroids killing you, dont do drugs kids. if that doesnt change ur opinion idk what does
>>39091860
hi bimbo
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>>39091897

You cant accidentally OD on steroids you stupid fuck. Seriously is everyone here a teenager? Mods do your fucking job. Some dumbass kid is going to take 700mg of DNP because another dumbass told him to do it, go to the hospital and let his parents know "4chan told me to do it" (not that I GAF if this shithole gets shut down) and further push an agenda to get DNP classified as a scheduled drug like steroids, ruining it for people who have actually read the pubmed and know what they're messing with
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>>39089195
Happy birthday star lord
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>>39091956
>mods do your fucking job
>the hacker known as 4chan told me to do it
>trust me, I'VE READ THE GODDAMN PUBMED WHERE'S MY PHD REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

thanks for the future pasta
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>>39091978
Grow up virgin
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>>39091956
I was the guy who was asking and I know 700mg is high
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>750mg DNP, feeling the sweats
>jerking off, cum in sock
>hour later I find my dog with my cum sock, he's licked it clean, little faggot
>frothing at the mouth a bit and panting

Fuck guys what do I do
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Hey guys im on first cycle of test e only 500mg a week, taking 500iu hcg with the test biweekly and 10mg of aromasin eod.
Right nipple just got really sore to the touch, sign to take my ai more often ?
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>>39092160
>sore nipple
>10mg asin eod

if that is true you are aromatizing like a madman

>inb4 he is just fat as fuck
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>>39092160
Drop the hcg that's what's doing it
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>>39088653
Eat shit and die, nazi faggot. I hope someone shoots you in the face. Hatemonger. Asshole. Piece of shit.
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>>39088783

What's this shit I hear about cataracts and dnp? I'm hoping people still use because its either very rare or somehow avoidable?
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>>39092327

It happens in women but it's rare. I think it's 1 in 10.000 for men or so.
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>>39092012

>700mg dnp
>Lethal

Are you an oompa loompa?
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>>39092349
Im just being contrarian but bullshitbon that number. show me proof.

I want to watch The Cat Returns. The lady who colored Ghibli films died.
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>>39092373

>show me proof.

I could count out the caps I have left. But that's about it. I took 3g in +- 36 hours to Frontload. All at once and I throw up.
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>>39092288
Was informed that hcg is essential for a quicker recovery and keeps balls healthy.
>>39092259
Is that too much? Should i make it e3d?
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>>39092373
>>39092430

I think he meant how rare it is, because that 1930's study everyone loves jerking off showed something like 3% of people got cataracts on a small dose if I remember correctly.
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>>39092463
"Balls healthy"? Are you referring to virility and testicle atrophy? Come sback after cycle or during pct. it's only needed if you want kids immediately on blast.
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>>39092365
>taking drugs and doing fuckall about research

Congratulations, you're the type of asshole who got DMAA (jack3d) banned, prohormones banned, melanotan banned, and will continue to contribute to the banning of other chemicals because your too fucking stupid and lazy to do any type of research
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>>39092504
How did he pass at just 102?
>>
>skinny fat dyel with moonface and childish face
>do a total of 3, 500mg test e cycles over 1 year
>get fkn jacked
>hair is long and greasy, can barely see my face
>now that im jacked, lets see how much puss i can pull
>cut down
>get chad haircut
>holyfuckimhandsome.jpg
>tinder
>shit ton of matches
>get blowjob on my 3rd date

and this is why i roid holy shit
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>>39092551
It took you three dates to get head...?
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>>39092526
I don't know let me go and ask. Idiot.
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>>39092526
>Sex
>F
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>>39092566
If they don't put out by date two it's not worth the investment.
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>>39092592
I mean the first hour.
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>>39092566
do you know how it feels like to be a loser your entire life and get a blowjob on your 3rd date, which was my first ever date too?
those were also the first woman to ever be interested in me.

i didnt even care about fucking anyone at that point, i just loved having girls drooling over me.

also how the fuck did test give me such a handsome face?
i thought it was a meme but i look so fucking manly and charismatic compared to 1 year ago.
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>>39089165
Yo I see you posting about Columbus and the brewery district so I'm assuming you mean Columbus Ohio? I live over off west broad where you at hombre?
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>>39092606
Depends on if you're looking for gf material or just a fuck hole.
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>>39092606
>>39092592
>>39092566

i also meant the 3rd date with the 3rd girl, not the same one.
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>>39092504

I'm alive, what's your point? It's not like I've never done dnp before.

First time i was careful.

I have ramped up this shit before. Once you know you tolerate 1g/day you can Frontload 3g. Just run it through a fucking calculator you retard.

3g at once is impossible, you throw it up. 1g at once is pushing it.

I did 400, another 400 4 hours later. Another 400 4 hours later... Etc. Quit at 15 caps. Went to 600/800 after that. 3 caps one day, 4 caps another.

700 at once is NOT lethal in people that need dnp. That's the dose you build up after 3-4 days on 200mg a day.

200mg a day isn't lethal unless you're allergic.

Retard Plsgo.
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>>39092675
High trest high tren
Sdrol
Msten
No AI ever
All dosages must be at least 4x the recommended amount. Trust me bruh you'll be fine. Oh and don't bother getting bloods done yolo right?
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>>39092809

Stop trolling.

600mg trest, 20mg msten, 20mg sdrol, 5mg methyltren and 5mg letro ed.
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>>39092807
1/10 trolling. I'm laughing at how miserable your life is irl for you to try to trick random clueless teenagers on the internet into killing themselves.
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>>39092807
I was worried but now not so much. Just upped to 600mg for my night dose , was doing 200 in am and pm. 1200 a day should get me the cuts i want because this shit sucks. I hate being fat
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>>39092923

You have no idea what you're talking about.

Do you believe marijuana causes schizophrenia as well?

Muscle confusion, did you start that meme?

I took 800mg today and i'll take 200 more. Brick ran 800+ at some point as well.
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>>39092318
T R I G G E R E D

If you aren't appalled by the lack of manliness in today's world you wont make it.
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>>39092956

I would keep it around 800, 1200 might be too much. Carb cravings get far worse as well.

If you're doing it for the first time slowly ramp up. 600 up till now? Go to 800 for 3-4 days. Then 1000 etc.
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>>39092977

Good for you. I do not give a flying fuck if it works for you. What I do care about is telling kids on here "yeah man, 800mg a day is totally fine because I can handle it" when I've provided medical journals showing multiple people have died taking even half that.

Keep up your weak trolling but you're on ignore. I'll just monitor and drop links here and there so dumbass kids read research and not what some fat fuck said on the internet
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>>39093041

Nobody said anything about daily. 700 at once is fine.

700 a day MIGHT be too much, for an underweight girl.

>occupational

They breathed that crap day in day out.

The rest? Women.

One guy did what I do without knowing his tolerance.

>proof
>evidence

Fearmongering.
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>>39092504
>>39093041
>that fucking pic

congratulations, you can take a tiny snapshot of the literal worst case scenario with hilariously terrible anecdotal data that's fucking self-reported in 2/3rds of the cases and jump on the fearmongering bandwagon

"300mg over 6 weeks" with an unknown ttd and somehow a peak core temp of 104 which, by the by, is well below even the low end of where fevers actually start getting dangerous over prolonged periods?

"2.5-5g"? are you fucking retarded? LOOK MA I TOOK ALMOST DOUBLE THE LD50 WITH A 100% MARGIN OF ERROR, I R S-M-R-T

>What I do care about is telling kids on here "yeah man, 800mg a day is totally fine because I can handle it" when I've provided medical journals showing multiple people have died taking even half that.

see: self-reported data, unknown comorbidities, literally zero data beyond "hey we kinda think this dumb bitch died after taking maybe X grams, who the fuck knows how they actually died though because the max temps never even came close to dangerous except that one retard who chlorinated his end of the gene pool"

christ on crutches get the fuck out with your pseudoscience already
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>>39093530
>medical journals are pseudoscience
Do you understand how fucking stupid you are? That statement right there is why absolutely no one should take a lick of advice from you. I mean haha I've heard some dumb shit from the teens on this shithole of a site but you take the cake
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3550200/
Page 20, click the table and click it again for a full list of deaths. But go ahead and read the whole journal
>b-but people don't need to worry about DNP! It's safe 4 evry1!!!
What kind of autist is so caught up with DNP that they fight the science behind its danger. You must be fat as fuck and use it as a huge crutch to lose weight. Pathetic
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>take aromasin for two weeks
>start getting regular fevers and skin rashes and weird fucked up scalp contractions some weeks even after I quit it
uhh guys?
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fuck 9/10 milf escort or hit up a cougar bar?
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any good OTC ancillaries while on an inject only cycle ? or am i just fine with a multi vitamin like a full dose of animal pak ?
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>>39093872
Cougar bar. If you have to pay to fuck you're doing it wrong.
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>>39093910
maybe youre just poor brah, hookers are great
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>>39092956
Sweet dreams
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>>39093654

so we've got... 12 cases from 2002-2010 of which 6 have zero data on dosage, 2 were occupational exposures, and 3 were ruled overdoses

2004's winner supposedly took 2.4g over 4 days (equating to 800mg/day) with a peak temperature of 102f which, lacking any other input besides the admitting data from the clinical report, makes me think the kid was a fucking idiot who didn't follow the titration protocols advocated for by literally everyone familiar with dnp along with whatever comorbidities or just plain stupidity led to him kicking the bucket for no readily apparent reason

of the women in this time period:
2002 (a 17 year old) has no dosage and a peak of 101.4f
2005 (another 17 year old, wtf) is a fucking straight darwin award winner at a 2.3-2.88g overdose with the expected peak of over 104f
2006 (what the fuck is with the 17 year old chicks) is another complete unknown dosage with a peak of 103f
2009 (holy shit this one isn't 17) is an unknown dosage over a full week with a peak of 100.4f, which is a half-hearted mental hop to sheer idiocy ignoring obvious warning signs plus inadequate diet and hydration for A WHOLE FUCKING WEEK
aaand 2010 is an occupational exposure

the only two other men cited who don't have unknown dosages or occupational exposures are also straight-up darwin award winners at 2.8g overdoses a piece, the rest have unknown dosages and fevers well into the brain-melty protein denaturation zone

medical journals are not a goddamn religious text taken as gospel truth you slack-jawed simple jack fuck, they require actual critical thought combined with some basic familiarity with medicine and statistical methodology, not just a cute first blush to confirm your biases and then breathlessly attempting to scold someone on the fucking internet

>>39093813

if it isn't an allergic reaction then it's probably just coincidental timing
>>
>nice looking girl deletes your match
What's the time limit to talk to a girl? tbqh I'm juggling between girls and I can't keep up. How do you guys multitask?
>>
>>39093927
>if it isn't an allergic reaction then it's probably just coincidental timing
The rash is probably allergic since I've been allergic to all sorts of shit in my life. The scalp thing is bothering me more. You know flickering eyelids? I've had that too but this is pretty much the same thing but with the scalp. Like, flickering and contracting all over the head/scalp. It's making me feel EXTREMELY tired and it's lasted for weeks now.
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>>39093971
take DHB and youll only need 3 hours of sleep
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>>39093927
>people are recorded having died from the dosages being recommended ITT
>"You're still wrong durr, they're lying!1!"

You don't even have a point you're trying to prove. You're just butthurt and bored. Defending a drug that only lazy people with poor dedication use that has heaps of data showing it is not only deadly but is can cause cancer.

Good job. You're fucking dumb as shit
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>>39094005
I love how quickly you turn to ad hominem attacks as soon as someone with an ounce of common sense starts arguing with you.

Hey brick, can I get a movinggoalposts.jpg?
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>>39093978

if it's still persisting well after it's had ample time to be cleared from your body, it's probably not the exemestane

>>39094005
>>39094028

here you go

hey guy, you know what else is incredibly deadly and in the most profoundly horrific and prolonged ways you'll ever see? acetaminophen

>https://toxnet.nlm.nih.gov/cpdb/chempages/2,4-DINITROPHENOL.html

hey look there's a carcinogenicity report on dnp

https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/2_4-dinitrophenol#section=Hazards-Summary
>Limited or no information is available on the developmental, reproductive, or carcinogenic effects of 2,4-dinitrophenol in humans. EPA has not classified 2,4-dinitrophenol for carcinogenicity.

I'd love to know where you get the "causes cancer" bit
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>>39094074

Brick saves the day.

Dnp should be an anticarcinogen because of it's effect on carbs/growth of cells. It starves them while on.
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>>39094074
>ample time to be cleared from your body
What's the time for this then? It's a suicide AI after all and I know it will take longer to recover from it than arimidex for example, but how long? It's been like 2-3 weeks since I quit and the same symptoms are showing even now.

I-I'm going crazy over this
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>>39093927

I don't even get how they didn't throw up. I take more than 600mg I get violently ill most of the time.

Just took my last cap of the day. 4 days in, 23x200mg down I think. 21-24 anyway.
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>>39094074
do you enjoy to BTFO other people?

and to write these wall of texts all the time?
seems like a hassle
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>>39094093
>>39094123

the problem is there's no way to know the balance of oxidative stress and free radical production from dnp vs the inhibition of neoplastic tissue because of its increased nutrient uptake causing negative feedback in those cells

>I don't even get how they didn't throw up. I take more than 600mg I get violently ill most of the time.

I learned really fast to eat 1-2c of greek yogurt before dosing, 800mg on an empty stomach was a distinctly unpleasant experience

>>39094100

~24h half life, rule of thumb is 5 x half life for basically complete excretion iirc

your body's still making aromatase enzymes the whole time and as the blood levels of exemestane drop, more aromatase is floating around to have a higher chance of binding with those sweet little testosterone molecules

symptoms caused by exemestane, even max saturation dosages, should be increasingly rare even after a week much less 2-3 which means it's time to start wondering what the fuck else could be causing that

>>39094143

little from column a, little from column b

kinda fun plus idiots trying to pass misinformation as gospel truth makes me cranky, those plus sheer boredom sometimes
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>>39094074
>>39094093
>people actually believe this
Inb4 "it's animals"

Hey do you know you'd have to swallow an entire bottle of 200mg of acetaminophen and chances are it wouldn't even result in liver failure?

hey do you know if you swallow a whole bottle of acetaminophen that you're probably killing yourself on purpose

Hey did you know that dozens of people have accidentally killed themselves while using DNP?

Hey did you know I don't give a fuck if people use DNP but that people shouldn't be advising dumbass uninformed teenagers to take 2-4 times the "recommended" max dosage and that people have died from taking the amount of DNP people are recommending to take ITT. Again, you're fighting a non-existent battle against me that you've made up your head out of boredom.
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>>39091958
Thanks.
I did my laundry today.
Then slept.
Going to gym then work.
I'm fine with this.
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This is such a strange website.
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>>39094212

>look daddy, I can keep linking outdated bullshit.

If you knew how fat loss worked you'd know dnp is not to blame.

Correlation, not causation.
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>>39094257
>people just happened to die all of a sudden in their 20s after taking large doses of DNP

You're so fucking dumb
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>>39094235

I know, now we've got yet another uniformed fearmongering shitposter.

Sup bby?

>yfw mattiecakesssss squatted 170kgx5 today.
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>>39094263

It's like talking to a wall. There really is no hope for you is there? What happened, fat girlfriend tried dnp and killed herself?

Chubbychasing faggot that wants people to stay fat?

Pic related.
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>>39094195
>it's time to start wondering what the fuck else could be causing that
O-oh ok. I'll wait another week or two and then visit mr Doc I guess. I'm also considering it might be something stress related because the last weeks have been stressful as fuck
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>>39094298

Still unaware who I am LOL.

ALL SMILES HERE BOYO
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>>39094212
>Hey do you know you'd have to swallow an entire bottle of 200mg of acetaminophen and chances are it wouldn't even result in liver failure?
>hey do you know if you swallow a whole bottle of acetaminophen that you're probably killing yourself on purpose

yet somehow people are dumb enough for it to be the most common cause of acute liver failure in the us and uk

>Hey did you know that dozens of people have accidentally killed themselves while using DNP?

"accidentally", I like that

I "accidentally" didn't do any fucking research on an unknown grey-to-black market weight loss drug or just ignored literally every single "how to not fucking die being a stupid motherfucker on dnp" post available from 5 seconds of googling, "accidentally" didn't drink enough water or eat enough, "accidentally" didn't follow any remotely sane dosing protocols, and "accidentally" died

you're "accidentally" a fucking retard

>Hey did you know I don't give a fuck if people use DNP but that people shouldn't be advising dumbass uninformed teenagers to take 2-4 times the "recommended" max dosage and that people have died from taking the amount of DNP people are recommending to take ITT.

max recommended dosage is 600mg after familiarization periods of 3-4 days at 200mg and 400mg dosages, so remind me who here is advocating someone start using 1.2g right off the bat?

>Again, you're fighting a non-existent battle against me that you've made up your head out of boredom.

while I am bored, I seriously doubt unless I've had a tyler durden-sized mental break that I'm somehow manufacturing your fucking stupidity out of thin air

>>39094303

I'd honestly think the stress was a bigger factor than trying to jump immediately to asin, shit just doesn't line up in any kind of coherent way
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>>39094329

Didn't read.

Bottom line, don't tell teenagers on this site taking a gram of DNP is safe. You disagree because "hurrr it worked for me durrr" and I have medical journals that support my evidence.

But yeah, let's believe some fatass 4channer over men with a PhD.

It's pathetic you're willing to take the risk of cataracts and cancer just because you're too lazy to diet and run
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>>39094356

see >>39094074

MOVE DEM GOALPOSTS BOY, WOOOOO YEAH
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>>39094356

I can't get cataracts. I've been over this before, no need to even try to convince me otherwise because actual experts told me this. Not bored keyboard warriors.
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1:what do i have to look out for on accutance?

2:what dosages do i run.

3:how long after the acne has cleared up, do i need to continue using accutane

4: what are the usual sides?

5:does it need to be pharma grade?

summoning holy brick
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>>39094375

I still think it's the release of fat that causes the increased risk. If there is an increased risk.

>cataracts

I was told by experts that would be impossible. My eyes aren't natty and haven't been for almost a decade.
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guys lets make a list of things that improves BP/worsens it

ill start

>cardio improves it
>lots of sleep improves it
>heavy bloat worsens it
>coq10 improves it


add to the list, i need to save everything
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>>39094375
"In animal studies, DNP has been shown to be teratogenic, mutagenic and carcinogenic; developmental and reproductive toxicity has also been reported"

Dude I don't have anything else to prove. You don't believe science. you're literally willing to shorten your lifespan and risk health because you lack the will power to lose weight by diet and cardio. I'm assuming you juice as well and look like absolute garbage. You'll be dead by 50, I'm sure in your mind death couldnt come quick enough
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I would actually prove 1g is a babbydose if someone would be here and record it or stay for proof.

I've taken plenty of dnp, it's built up, i'd take another 3g to prove a point.

It's a win/win for me. Either i'm right or I die.
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>>39094420

dat pic what the fuck
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>>39094422
>You'll be dead by 50, I'm sure in your mind death couldnt come quick enough

Before that.

Not really in a hurry to get there but no need to prolong it either.

Not gear related.
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DNP is literally weed killer. I spray that shit on my lawn to kill dandelions.

(And I do mean literally literally, not literally figuratively.)
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>>39094456
"Literal" in the post modern sense of the word.
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>>39094456

It's also literally a yellow dye.

Did you know water is something we drink and ALSO something we clean ourselves with? WE DRINK CLEANING AGENTS.
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>>39094392

I've never had the need to touch the shit despite running compounds that by all rights should have me looking like a pizza, so no personal anecdotes

wouldn't be a terrible idea to go search r/steroids for threads on accutane, there's a mountain of anecdotal user experiences and recommendations there

>>39094420

jesus christ that's horrifying

>>39094422

you are profoundly, profoundly fucking stupid

see >>39094074

>https://toxnet.nlm.nih.gov/cpdb/chempages/2,4-DINITROPHENOL.html

>https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/2_4-dinitrophenol#section=Hazards-Summary
>Limited or no information is available on the developmental, reproductive, or carcinogenic effects of 2,4-dinitrophenol in humans. EPA has not classified 2,4-dinitrophenol for carcinogenicity.

>I'd love to know where you get the "causes cancer" bit

I don't know if it's just your little post-fact bubble or the extra 21st chromosome that's completely destroyed your ability to comprehend things that don't fit with your cognitive biases
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>>39094392
Too high doses of Accutane can make your hair fall out, but something like 97.5% of the time it grows back. I know a guy that bought Accutane online and did high doses for 6 months and is permanently bald now. Usually use it for 2-3 months then have a break for 2-3 months and repeat if necessary
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>>39094474
>"there hasn't been a human study on DNP and it's relation to cancer in humans so it doesn't cause cancer!!1!"
Studies done on animals show DNP causes cancer
>"NOT LISTENING NOT LISTENING!1!!"
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>>39094507

I honestly can't tell if I'm getting trolled right now, considering the first link is to an animal study with included data from ames testing
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should i donate blood on test?

or is there no reason to do that at all?

i heard it could help with BP
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Thoughts on mk 677? Kinda wanna dip my toe into the world of /fraud/ slowly and it seemed like a decent start.
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>>39094543

No I went to the site. It was a bunch of non-sensible gibberish and the site looked like it was made by a 10 year old.

Here's a -professional- study
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18461559
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>>39093041
>You are liable for other people's stupidity

Mate, it is nobodies fault if some kid takes the word of someone on an Andorrian Chair Carving fourm.

>>39094562
Unless you're on high dose EQ there's no reason.
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>>39094795
>Here's a -professional- study

oh now nice of you

>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18461559
>No deaths were observed in males and females of any group.
>External and internal examinations of pups revealed no increased incidence of malformations in DNP-treated groups. On the basis of these findings, we concluded that DNP has general and reproductive/developmental toxicity, but not teratogenicity, under the present conditions.
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>>39089878
What type of pagan?
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>>39094875
There's only one kind. The one that got fucking stomped by the church.
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>>39093654
>bimbo
>fat as fuck

All my keks senpai. Dudes probably the most aesthetic fraud poster here.

>>39094420

What the fuck is that pic of
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is future's shit legit? just got some cause freedom is hurricaned
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>>39095388
I would argue that Alb is. But it's all up to preference I suppose.
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Where were u when /fraud/ was kill?
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>>39097448
In the other >>39090398 one, just sage this thread and let it die
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