Does booze kill gains as much as they say it does?

Even worse

>>39073457
No.

>>39073457
have a beer or two

liquor though, it does mess with your gains. Sometimes though you just need to hang out with friends and have some drinks. Feel gains are important.

>>39073457
depends. one drink; negligible.
getting absolutely turnt: no gains, lowered testosterone, caloric surplus may induce fat gain.

In moderation, no. Being an alcoholic? Kiss your hormones, gains, and overall wellbeing goodbye

t. age 25, used to drink 2 fifths of 80 proof a night, every night for 18 months straight.

>>39073465
this
If you look good even though you drink, you'll look dramatically better without any alcohol

at the end of the day you gotta be a savage to get great gains

the only reason i work out is so i can eat like shit and drink booze anyway

>>39073465
>>39073489
>>39073493

Not doubting but you people have sources? I know it's not good calories but does it really kill gains and lower test?

no.

5-8 shots after work, sleep 3-6 hours, get up, deadlift, then back to work tomorrow.

I'll PR easy

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3 grams of this is better than alcohol.

>>39073516
>not gonna make it.

>>39073643
https://breakingmuscle.com/nutrition/alcohol-impairs-hypertrophy-and-messes-with-your-hormones
>tl;dr for article "a little is fine; binge drinking will fuck your shit up."

>>39073497
what if on steroids?

>>39073974
RIP liver

>>39073786
Does this work or is it a meme

>>39073994
this

>>39073994
>>39074020

Phenibut works on Gaba-b receptors in much the same way as alcohol (and -a at higher doses). It's more-or-less the same effect, arguably more potent. Minus the loss of motor function.

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>>39073457

>>39074730

Woah, how is that bottle floating in the air like that?

>>39074730
Gazi is that you?

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Alcohol temporarily raises test (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12711931)

Binge drinking does not.

Alcohol itself cant be stored as fat stores

Beer is empty calories and carbs

End of story

>>39074836
Link didnt work

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12711931

>>39074730
Who here gettin /turnt/?

>>39074736

kek

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I guess this thread should be relevant because my life is nothing but drinking and lifting now

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>>39074710

How long does Phenibut last? I'm going to a 2-day NYE festival alone, could I pop a proper dosage on both days?

Guys just see it this way. If you want to be a "health freak"/ be the best you can be dont drink anymore than a few drinks.

If you just want to look good and enjoy your young lives then feel free to binge or whatever youll still be growing.

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I started drinking and then I gave up weight lifting. Would not recommend.

>>39075596
oh common man, you're better than this.
Protip: train in the morning really hard, so that when it's late at night, you're exhausted and just wanna sleep

>>39075627
Countdown?

>>39073457
no, it kills more. vast majority of the population is low key alcoholics or like they call themselves "moderate users" in denial. they can't stop so they make up shit about it's relative harmlessness. try to go without alcohol for 2 months and you'll feel amazing, workouts are easier than ever and the gains show

>>39075775

Nah man Decadence in AZ, some not natty headliners on both days it's gonna be fucking insane. I'm paying out the ass for it but fook it m8, this is just one of those events I cannot miss.

>>39075699
what are you doing here then? (curious)

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>>39075788
Why wouldn't you take legit pills instead ? just curious

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>>39075828

In it for the music man, but I do have a tiny bit of social anxiety that I'd like to kick off and I've heard that Phenibut it pretty legit in that regard. I don't plan on approaching anyone, but, when you're shoulder to shoulder with sweaty ass people it helps to feel calm and collected and not so clustered.

Alcohol absolutely kills gains. Even one drink and you can go ahead and kiss all those sweet gains goodbye. It's also a stupid drug considering how shitty the cerebral effects are for the side effects. With all the other mind altering drugs that have nothing but positive effects on gains I just can't see why any sane person would drink poison for fun.

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Yes

Heavy drinker here

My recovery time / muscle endurance / and over all strength is much better when not binging

If your going to drink just keep it to a specific weekend day

>>39073786
It's way more addicting

A shot of whiskey a night to help me sleep wont rob my gains, w-will it lads?

>>39073786
Eh, prefer mixing the 2 senpai
a gram of the stuff + a bottle of wine will get you FUCKED UP
Also a great hangover cure

>>39075861
>In it for the music man
my nig, used to go to dnb raves sober even
To answer your question - yes, phenibut is anxyolitic as fuck. The problems only start if you start binging it like a retart (3 days in a row, heroic doses etc)

No. If you are a true alpha you get fucked every weekend and still have great gains. Bitch tits low test gyno males however should avoid alcohol

what if you go binge drinking once a month or so?

I only drink with bros when we can get together and and I'll end up smashed, but save that I don't drink at all

>>39076556
Change that to once every week/2 weeks

I'm talking about absolutely smashed as well, but I also don't drink besides that.

>>39073497

That's five drinks a night. Why did you drink so often?