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How to naturally increase testosterone? For lifting purposes.

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How to naturally increase testosterone? For lifting purposes.

Will forcing myself to masturbate do the trick? Because i recently lost my sex drive and all porn doesnt do anything to make me hard anymore
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take vitamin d and eat brazil nuts
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Lift
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>>39025766
Alwaya knew /fit/ was a bunch of faggots but this a new low.
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>>39025776

https://examine.com/supplements/vitamin-d/
>An increase in testosterone has been noted in men with 3,332 IU of Vitamin D over the course of a year

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23678636
>The results also showed a strong positive correlation between serum levels of zinc and selenium, a negative correlation between serum levels of testosterone and zinc, and a strong positive correlation between serum testosterone and selenium in the infertile males

feel free to kill yourself after being btfo this hard
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>>39025744
Take vitamin k and eat oranges without peeling
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>>39025776

vit d is critical for test production and you should take it anyways

brazil nuts have lots of selenium which is why they're recommended for this


there is fucking miles of shit on the internet about this, I could write 5 posts on what i know. just go find the recommendations that seem to be most prevalent and agreed upon

here's a quick list of blatant shit since i feel nice

zinc (muh ED, arguably most critical mineral for test, dont take too much)
cholesterol (vital for test production)
low carb is detrimental to test
beets, spinach, any other vegetables rich in nitrates
boron (likely boosts test to notable degree)
vit d, vit a (not beta carotene), magnesium, all b vitamins

avoid food contact with most plastics, biphenols are fucking everywhere, and not just A. Polycarbonates are the worst

STAY HYDRATED

fucking creatine
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>>39025766
i can give you some vitamin d and you could eat my brazil nuts
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maca root powder
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>>39025879

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12472620
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>>39025744
Op you look great, not sure why you'd want more testosterone, it rarely makes girls look better
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>>39025744
>porn doesnt do anything to make me hard anymore
Try one of these:
http://www.legalporno.com/watch/31423/8on2_belle_factor_part_2_gangbang_multiple_facial_party_swallow_drowning_gio206
http://www.legalporno.com/watch/30237/goldie_airtight_anal_dp_with_3_massive_black_cocks_rs100

or you could switch to shemale porn. Try to see if that helps.
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>>39025744
Try zinc supplements.
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>>39025744
you might want to try watching certain kinds of porn. not tame normal shit. I mean the really hardcore and nasty porn. not even kidding here.
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Wait since when does fapping actually help you to get more gains o always thought it was the opposite
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>>39026196
these links are good op. not the shemale stuff though. you might be interested in reading this.

http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2006/04/18/the-effect-of-porn-on-male-fer/

force yourself to do noporn and nofap for a week and then come back and watch gangbang porn. in fact make sure you watch thicc sluts doing this for maximum sperm/test production.
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>>39026230
increases testosterone, therefore making gains becomes easier
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>>39026277
this is true but not for the obsessive masturbators. you actually weaken yourself if you cum too much. best is to save it up for a bit and then fap. in fact practice edging since it will make the cumming feel more intense once you finally blow your load.
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>>39026254

It's a shame she fucks niggers.
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Someone let me know if I should add anything eless to this

>zma
>lecithin granules
>citrulline
>tribilium

Should get it in about a week.
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>>39026296
but anon don't you understand what I was saying? this is what you actually want if you want to increase your testosterone and sperm virility. a bunch of men fucking "your" women is a natural testosterone booster. so for op he should start watching thicc white baes gangbanged by blacks.
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>>39026308
Correction.

>tribulus
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>>39025799
I don't really comprehend what the pubmed article is trying to say. Pls spoonfeed me senpai
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>>39025845
>Fucking creatine

You saying we defo should take creatine senpai?
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>>39025845
I dont know shit about shit, but doesnt this >>39025799 say there is a negative correlation between zinc and test? or does serum levels of test mean another thing?
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>watching porn
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>>39026327
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>>39026638
not sure I get what you are trying to say with this picture anon. explain
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>>39025842
i'll eat your fucking mom without peeling m8
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>>39025744
Eat 7-8 whole eggs before bed.

Eggs are loaded with cholesterol. Test is made from cholesterol.

It works. Try it.
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>>39026673
Looks like a jew nose. Meaning it's all a ruse to cuck that retard
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D-aspartic acid
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>>39025744
read this book

https://www.sendspace.com/file/wg4jf9
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>>39026756
ah okay I guess that guy might have been a bit too clever with his image and it went over my head.

my posts are actually serious though. the multiple men on one woman equals a ton of competition. guys have evolved a response to this. which is where sperm competition comes from. if it's men that look nothing like you (different race of men with your races woman) this is increased even further since they are not the men of your "tribe" so to speak.

just trying to help out the op here. I mean it's up to him but I definitely recommend it honestly and it definitely works.
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Make sure you're blood flow is on point.

Do cardio (hiit preferably) and take l-citrulline and pycnogenol/pine bark extract
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>>39025899
>dosages between 1500mg and 3000

So, I cannot read the full link but what is the optimal amount to take? And yes I am aware that it doesnt affect test levels, but the sexual desire increase is alluring. I think I have good test, but am still somewhat asexual, or just sexually retarded around women.
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>>39025744
Apparently red onion boosts test for some reason. Back in the day, like from ancient Greece onwards strong dudes used to eat them to get stronger. No idea if it's true or not but I read it somewhere and I eat them a lot anyway cause shits fucking delicious so it can't hurt right.
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>>39026817
Maca is meant to be good for libido, but did nothing for me.

I find just wanking often boosts my libido.
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>>39026825
Fapping once a day may be too much. Fapping once a week may be too little.

The cycle that many mention in real, but not sure how to approach it.
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>>39026858
Fap and Ejaculate once a week.

What you really want while not doing that to do is to edge. That is fap until you get rock hard and then keep that shit in, don't let it come out. That way you get the boost from fapping and none of the downside of feeling satisfied/demotivated/regretful after finishing the fap.

Any loser can just wank off, what takes willpower is to climb the mountain without jumping the cliff at the end. You will feel energetic, you will feel frustrated. Channel that power into your lifts instead, as if you could move mountains with strength alone.
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>>39026918
Kek, yea. Once a week seems to be the best amount. I tried both nofap for 3 weeks, to fapping controlled once a day. Once a week seems to be the best.
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>>39026673
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Loose body fat, block estrogen, block dht...
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>>39025776
are you going to fucking listen you faggot or what? Christ
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>>39026207

Find your fetish and be honest with yourself, yeah.

Once I realized I was big on power/control/sadism I could always dig up something to wank to in a pinch. Greatly prefer finding a girl who will let me break her, though
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>>39025744
No-fap won't do shit to your T levels. Best supplement and stay hydrated.
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>>39027703
if you're blocking DHT you must go all out with the estrogen blockers though.
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does anyone here ever messages their T levels?
I'm in a lab right about to take the test
I was wondering if any tried it out and what actual values of reference might be
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inject testosterone
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>>39025862
My sides !
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>>39027703
Bitch is fake as fuck
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>watching granny porn


You should be ashamed of yourselves
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>>39027824
Why you jealous?
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>>39027970
I'm not. I just like ruining faggots' dreams
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>>39028013
why fake though? she is still hot as fuck
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>>39028342
Because she's an attractive girl but a shitty model. She wants to be a VS Angel, but has no personality in her shoots and he current lingerie shoots show where she lacks in her body (e.g. she has hips but no ass).

If you saw her in public, you probably wouldn't think twice about fucking her. But she's trying to make a name for herself as a model which requires more than just looking good. It doesn't help that she also comes across as an idiot in interviews
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>>39026254
hum interesting
is the article for real?
I was believing it until the cellphone part

but I always wondered why my fetish with slut women being pounded on both holes, at least now I have an excuse

either way, sperm count doesn't directly relate with T levels, while testosterone sure does help with sperm, the opposite does not happen
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>>39026918
fuck what
so you edge without releasing it?
madman
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>>39026196
>switch to shemale porn
Works for me. I'm kind of on a cycle, like I switch from hardcore, bareback, bigdicked tranny porn to like lesbian/female focus straight porn every 2-3 months. I can't ex plain it.
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>>39028013
I don't care about personality, or anything else, she's just pretty. Stop hating.
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>>39028582
Just be careful what you fall for, breh
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>>39025744
No...
sleeping regular hours, engaging in social interactions with women and eat regular filling meals.

This will up your natural Test
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>>39025744
>How to naturally increase testosterone? For lifting purposes.
Eat more protein, sleep more, workout harder/more and have sex/fap
>http://chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2014/10/the-simplicity-of-dieting-it-really-is.html
>https://www.anabolicmen.com/best-testosterone-boosting-foods/
>https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/british-journal-of-nutrition/article/effects-of-replacing-meat-with-soyabean-in-the-diet-on-sex-hormone-concentrations-in-healthy-adult-males/50C464775151BA6ECBF767221F763AFF
>Will forcing myself to masturbate do the trick?
Yes
>http://chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2013/07/no-fap-more-like-no-fucking-way.html
>http://chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2010/09/enough-already-sex-and-baddassery-are.html
>http://chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2010/09/enough-already-sex-and-baddassery-are_07.html
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>>39028652
>>sleep

This one always boggles my mind. I know guys who count their calories with scales, worry over macros, bust their ass in the gym, do every little thing perfectly... then they get less than 8 hours of sleep multiple nights per week and are confused when they don't make gains. Literal fucking retards.
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>>39028652
>>39028666
>http://chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2010/05/if-youre-not-regular-fucking-sleeping.html
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>>39028666
Having enough sleep is not enough.
Sticking to a regular sleep cycle (11pm-to-8am 7 days a week) however, work wonders
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>>39026196
>watching porn with men on it
Are you trying to make him a cuck like you
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>>39028886
not him but I have already explained it. there is actually a pretty legit reason for any guy to watch that kind of porn. research it yourself if you don't believe any of my posts.
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>>39028909

The cost/benefit analysis seems pretty poor to me. What's the point of increasing sperm count a few percent (not even test, but sperm) if it produces a degenerate mindset? And I do mean 'degenerate' in the most literal sense of the word.
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>>39028847
>11pm-to-8am

>8am

yeah, some of us have real jobs, buddy
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>>39028971
>Only those who have no control over the mind fear degeneracy
t. Michelle OBama
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>>39028971
no anon it does increase test as well. it doesn't directly say it here but you need to connect the dots.

http://www.baka.com.au/technology/technology-news/our-sexual-desires-exposed-by-neuroscientists-porn-study-20110621-1gcol.html

>One unusual result from the research was that erotica featuring cheating wives was very popular among straight men.
>Ogas explained that he believed men were attracted to cheating wives due to a function biologists call a "sperm competition cue".
>"All across the animal kingdom, when a male sees another male mate with a female, this often triggers greater sexual arousal in the viewing male so that he might pursue sex more vigorously - and produce more sperm - than his competitor in order to increase his chances of impregnating the female," he said.
>"The sperm competition cue also explains why men are aroused by cuckold porn, also called cheating wife porn or cheating girlfriend porn, or about fantasies of their own wife or girlfriend cheating on them.
>"Though men are most definitely designed to get jealous and furious at the thought of their partner cheating on them, they can also become simultaneously aroused."

just think about it for a second.
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>>39029119

I think if I'm shooting into a pussy exclusively and at 80% optimum sperm, vs. sharing her with another man and being at 100%, I like my odds in the former situation better. And I don't buy that cuck fantasies don't become self-fulfilling. To quote the famous line, "as you think, so shall you become."
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>>39029177

I will add, subjectively, that this is all mental gymnastics and pseudoscientific justification to avoid feeling shame at something you know you should be ashamed of. This is like the equivalent of the fat people who take the conclusion of some half baked study as justification for their fatness.
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>>39029177
I never said that you should become a cuck btw. I only said that if op wants to increase his testosterone then he should try this. remember he also said he lost his sex drive. although I doubt his claim that all porn does nothing for him. if he took some time off and came back to watch hardcore interracial gangbang porn then his test will go right up and his sperm count will to since there is a correlation here.

>Mezitis says it's standard practice to check a man's sperm count when a couple has difficulty getting pregnant. If his sperm count is low, the next step is to measure his testosterone.

http://www.webmd.com/men/features/infertility#1

it's no coincidence that group sex porn with more men on one woman is popular. if you notice it seems to happen a lot more than multiple women with one man porn does. just give it a try. tons of people fap to fucked up porn. doesn't mean they would want to try it in real life. although I would bet the effects get multiplied if you were in a real life scenario.
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>>39029191
whatever you say man I think you are the one who seems very insecure here. there are plenty of guys that want to watch some messed up porn just for the sake of it. even if they don't want to fap they might be curious enough to watch it. I know I've done that before yet I never fapped to it.

tons of people watched 2 girls 1 cup but I guarantee most did not fap to it.
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>>39029241

I heard this advice somewhere and tried it; it made everything worse in my experience. I was able to get erect and orgasm, but felt more lethargy and depression for a period afterwards. Sample of one I guess, but the effect was pretty striking.
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>>39026673
who is this phallus chalice?
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>>39029302
yeah you see you need to drop the feelings of guilt and realize it's only porn and you are trying to get off. just tell yourself you wouldn't want to do it in real life. it's okay to indulge as long as it's only porn.

make sure you also work out of course for the best benefits. I can assure you I tried this myself and for me it I definitely feel a noticeable change. you also have to resist the urge to fap every single day though. you shouldn't do that every day. make it like a big day for you. like a treat that you only allow yourself to enjoy once a week.
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>>39029394

So the problem with my attempt to fix my mental issues is a mental issue? I'm sorry, I want to believe this works, I went in with an open mind, but I felt physically weaker and mentally lacking in energy. I think you've just kind of overreached with your assumptions about the effects this stuff has, and you're trying to pass the inadequacy of your ideas onto me. It's okay to be wrong you know.
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>>39029484
what is it exactly that made you feel this way? what kind of porn were you watching and what else did you do to be active in life? that's the big thing here.
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>>39029345
filename says mellanie monroe
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>>39028454
You're gay as fuck
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>>39029540

The addition of cuck/gangbang porn was the only thing I was doing differently at the time.
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>>39025744
Watch movies before going to the gym. I read somewhere that sexually explicit scenes in movies cause a brief spike in test, also watching some dude best the shit out of someone probably gets you at least a little hyped to lift.
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>>39029610
well you did admit it aroused you though. you just said you felt depression afterwards. what is it about this that specifically depressed you? do you feel too much like a pathetic cuck or something because of the racial differences?
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>>39025862
kek
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>>39029177
>I think if I'm shooting into a pussy exclusively and at 80% optimum sperm, vs. sharing her with another man and being at 100%, I like my odds in the former situation better.

Yes of course, but consider the evolutionary situation: you'd have no such choice. The choice would be her fucking another guy and you crying and walking away OR her fucking another guy and you beating the shit out of him and then fucking her raw. Which strategy do you think is most likely to result in the greatest amount of offspring over time for you? Evolution has preferred the strange combo of fury and arousal as response to a cheating partner.

I think that what the other anon is saying is that porn allows us to "trick nature", and get that arousal and agression boost without actually having out partner cheat, by watching porn which allows us to pretend that it is so.
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>>39029680

I didn't have any specific cognitions or feelings of shame. Just lethargy and low/weak energy.
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>>39025879
This.
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>>39027703
You can see her contacts
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