CHEATING FRAUDS

>>39020025
First for bimbo realizes his self-worth and leaves his ex forever.

>>39020062
Or second, fuck it.

>>39020062
Shut her down once already. Bimbo: 1 ex: 27

i don't want to have to deal with injections, and i don't want to spend countless hours researching. also don't want to totally kill my natty test

arnold's routine of a little bit of oral dbol sound good?

>>39019985
well obviously i will go bald when im mutacocking 70 yo, i dont care at that point.

i just want to run something that doesnt cause hairloss, but appereantly everything does.
and when it doesnt, then its shit for gains anyways it seems.

>>39020010
>someone actually gave a smart response

clap clap.

Good to know? I thought it would fuck my hair just like test would.
The only conflicting thing now is, EQ is kinda weak desu right now fampai.

>>39020027
>autist

says the fat bloaty faggot with weebo tattoo on his chest and obsessing over anime charackters.

>>39020081
>>39020017
>imprinted
Wtf is that a thing? Didnt those wolfs do that in twilight?
Dude people here are saying the same thing, leave her and find someone new. "imprint" on someone else

>>39020123
>kill natty test
with proper pct that wont happen, you might even have more than before

>injections
no work around it. every test that isnt an injection is absolute fucking useless.

>oral only cycles
didnt you just say you dont want to kill your natty test?

>countless hours researching
yeah thats the shitty part, but if you do it, you will be come out golden

>>39020137
Idk I don't watch twilight I just have a large emotional attachment but it felt supercool saying no.

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>>39020163
>Idk I don't watch twilight
Well i dont "watch" it either i just seen it once.
>it felt supercool saying no
Itll feel cooler moving on and being happy with someone who actually loves you.
You should look up how heroine addicts rationalize their usage. You sound just like that.

>>39020204
lol the addict analogy is such old hat.

I want that specific pussy. And it's obvious she wants this dick.

>>39020025
isn't that hgh?

can women use hgh?

>>39020226
>lol the addict analogy is such old hat
And? If its right its right.
>I want that specific pussy
And yet you denied her and have to scheme to get it?
>And it's obvious she wants this dick
Is it though?

>>39020226
I know you talk about how you don't respect yourself.

Honestly though the way you've been talking it seems like you don't respect her at all either. You post your perspective but honestly it seems like you have too much anger and frustration towards her to actually care and respect her as who she could be if she was with someone healthier.

>>39020241
Seconded - she seems to enjoy the dick but honestly it's the emotional worship that she enjoys more than anything - that validation is what she wants back. Not your fuckkng dick.

Her blog even indicates the sex isn't /THAT/ amazing

Reposting:
In a recent video on Mark Bell's youtube channel, he was talking with Stan Efferding about his bloodwork. Efferding said that it was more important to keep estrogen levels in a rough ratio to testosterone levels, and that actual numbers were not quite as important (i.e. it can be kinda high if it's in a "good ratio").
Does anyone have any experience with this? I know a lot of you just kind of wing it and use AI with certain symptoms, but this topic makes me curious.

>>39020273
Woa how'd you find it? And she has posted multiple times she loves the sex.

She said once or twice it was okay or wasn't that great back in February when she was pissed at me. But more often than not she'd blog about me making her black out or how she loves it.
>>39020241
I mean she says she needs constant distraction to stay away and she immediately met up with me when I got back to town.

>>39020384
Wait so let me get his straight, you are actually interested in a human being who has a blog? And blogs about sex with you on it? Dude thats insanely cringey.

>>39020414
We're posting on 4chan

>>39020291
can you tl:dr?

not sure what he/you are trying to say

>>39020419
Alright well thanks for being discreet.

>>39020444
It's literally everything you've posted doggo

>>39020204
>Itll feel cooler moving on and being happy with someone who actually loves you.
>You should look up how heroine addicts rationalize their usage. You sound just like that.

I'm not that anon you replied to, but your words hit a sweet spot in me. Thanks

>>39020444
Cut 4 u princess

>>39020251
Which is why I'm working on my negative behaviors.

I disagree with you. I respect her wishes fine. And I've done everything she asks r me.

>>39020460
No I'm being serious. Thanks for not doing anything.
>>39020475
What?

>>39020488
Oh yeah man
I'm not gonna doxx you again that shit ain't right.

>>39020240
Yeah. It makes them slim and makes their tits bigger. Tbh hgh does more miracle work for women than it does for men.

>>39020502
Thank you. That blog is fucky tho huh? Email me at bimbolifts @ gmail

I like your insight

>>39020432
Sure, yeah.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dA6p1ncxA7w
24:17 ish
Efferding:
You don't have to keep your estrogen strictly in "normal ranges" as long as it's at a rough ratio to testosterone.

>>39020569
"a rough ratio to testosterone" means absolutely fucking nothing.

>>39020581
This is science

>>39020581
to clarify: without a clarification of the expected estrogen:testosterone ratio, it means nothing.

clearly he means that you don't need to be in normal ranges if your test levels are 10 times nromal levels as that would counterbalance the extra estrogen, but it's a statement that isn't worth anything without saying what the ratio should be.

>>39020569
I think he explains it pretty well, man.

There are benefits to estrogen, and some people don't have to take AI because they're not as susceptible to estrogen symptoms, for those people a higher estrogen level may be more beneficial for strength and mass gains. That situation is a lot better than just taking AI and crushing estrogen levels to prevent symptoms that may not present.

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Behold perfection

>>39020647

Arms out of proportion to his torso, so no.

>>39020659
Maybe in your shitty opinion

>>39020659
That's actually the ideal proportion

>>39020526
I've been giving my insite since you started posting about her bro

It's been like watching my old self

You started to lash out at others yet? Rekindling old conflicts? Cutting ties with healthy influences in your life?

>>39020790
Yes all of that I'm perpetuating the abuse she inflicts on me

>>39020629
>>39020603
>>39020569

is this just for strength/mass?

does this still apply for gyno?

like, should it be in normal ranges for gyno

>>39020833
Cut it off - cold turkey is what eventually worked for me
Apologize - if you're reaching out to these people they matter to you
Start recovering - time is a funny thing
Discover deeper happiness - validation is a drop in the bucket of actual happiness
Reconnect and find a place in life that won't have you thinking the thoughts "fuck it I'll do it" "who cares" "no it's fine" "if this kills me I'll be okay with it"

say you blast and cruise for a sustained period of time (5 years+).....can you ever come off gear, or are you going to be on trt for the rest of your life?

>>39021020
Lol oral only is a waste of your time. Clen is awful just psmf.

>>39021020
your questions are asked 20 times a thread and are incredibly fucking stupid

go away, this is tripblogging general

>>39021209
Baseline 500mg test e

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>>39021020
Oral only cycles will make brick yell at you.

You can use clen or DNP for cutting but if you don't really care about keeping muscle mass you can just cut natty.

>>39021029
permanent hpta shutdown is a meme. you'll be fine as long as you pct correctly. keep in mind that a post years long bnc is gonna require a much more intense pct and you won't find as much information as you would for regular 12-16 weeks cycle pct. also a shitload of broscience

>>39021029
If you've been relatively safe and monitored your bloods regularly, and go through an intense PCT, you can theoretically get back to normal or near normal test levels.

Tren is hitting me hard now. No appetite. Lethargic. Insomnia. Constant night sweats.

>>39021209
We can't post our pastebin but if you go to reddit's r/steroids board they have a good wiki that you should read up on.

Would it be wise for a first timer to run test only plus Hcg while on cycle with AI on hand? Or are there any other recommendations for starting off?

>>39020420
>We're posting on 4chan
And? thats nowhere near as lame as having a fucking blog.

>>39020466
NP nigga, you in a fucked up relationship or former junkie?

>>39021284
Why is it against the rules to post the pastebin?

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>>39021262
Better give it to me then

>>39021309
Sourcing

Is there a reason to not take masteron if you plan on doing just a cycle? Why bother with ais and just use mast? Is the cholesterol damage that bad

>>39021314
Oh, I see. Have you guys tried using a pastebin that doesn't involve that, or do they just ban it without checking?

>>39021371
They just always ban on sight

>>39021290
Have something like nolvadex or clomid for PCT. And HCG would probably be overkill for a simple test cycle but you wouldn't be doing anything wrong if you used it.

>>39020291
Idk anything about it, but it makes more sense than trying to keep estro levels in natty range when they're range is based upon natty test range. If your natty ratio is fine, I personally would aim for that ratio running aas as long as I didn't have side effects

>>390214025
I think I'd prefer to use it, and I had those in mind for pct, I'm gonna get some stuff in hand then post again with a much more detailed plan hopefully for some good feedback, see you guys on the other side

>>39021473
>>39021402

>>39021547
Hgh and var are all you need

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Is clean ideal later on in the cycle or should i just wait til after

>>39020025
who is that in the pic?

>>39021634
Anavar is an oral steroid. Mild in both men and women. Take 5-10mg daily as a woman pwo.

Just find pharma gh. Norditropin is cool.

>>39021634
Oh and bimbos are dope I like you

>>39020164
It's all them vagina hormones been seeped into your bloodstream through the mucus membrane of your glans. Vasopressins et al.

Literal mind control hormones, fucking with your brain chemistry.

Get the fuck out of there bims.

>>39021777
Yeah dude that shit is dope. She's the only one I've fucked raw this much, and ~1500 times in ten months is a lot of pussy juice to absorb.

>>39021634
Don't take MALE HORMONES unless you really really want to gain muscle.

Dont take them to lose fat.
Dont take them to tone up.
If you get negative sides, they can stick eith your forever.

You will forever have a scary voice.
You will forever have extra, and thicker bodyhair where you definitely dont want it.

You will forever have a dick for a clit.


If you get any of these sides, they are PERMANENT.

If your var is actually dbol, you can be fucked for life. This is not the same game for women and men. If men get sold the wrong thing, or take too much, oh well it's just annoying.

If you as a woman takes to much or get sold the wrong thing, you are fucked for life.
That said HGH is probably fine.
>Don't take male hormones

>>39022032
Well then

10RM trap bar deads
3x6 with the same weight

Then

4 sets of 15 reps per leg on weighted lunges
60 reps per leg
120 total

Someone please acknowledge that I worked hard.

>>39022178
Google "buy steroids online". Nothing that comes up is reputable. There's a very good board on Reddit for finding sources.

>>39022167
Good job

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https://www.eroids.com/reviews review ?
also how are sarms compared to regular ass steriods in terms of strength increases ?

>>39022551
Thanks man I appreciate it

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>>39022167
>trap bar deads

Been taking raloxifene daily for the past 5 weeks to help my gyno. Would it be a bad idea to start juicing again?

>>39022671
I do regular deadlifts too but trap bar is literally a better movement. Educate yourself, child.

Guys I'm dying here. No female attention and I'm on week 8 of a tren test cycle

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>week 8 of test tren cycle
> No pussy in a year

>>39022841
lol

>>39022898
>>39022907
Nice

It's really easy to get laid dude.

>>39022913
Wow.

>>39021262
Whats your dose @?
Trest a 400 EW
Tren e 750 EW
You running caber or prami? It helped me with all the sides

>>39022919
I could probably swing seeing the ex tonight if I wanted.

>>39022933
That's great.

>>39022928
Nah no prami or caber. I get almost zero sides from any AAS. Misty just mental effects if anything.

Just 350 test p 400 tren e atm dropped tren a last night. Too much tren.

Gonna do a slow burn of indefinite 500 test 100 Adrol.

>>39022936
Dude it's so easy.

>>39020163
not that guy but have you ever experimented with Enobosarm?

>>39022960
Alright.

>>39022950
I always hate lowering my tren dose
Lowest ill ever run it is 500, think ive been on it for almost a year now. Fucking kill me

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How've everyone's interactions with women been affected by getting on gear?

>>39022974
Tren @ 500+ a week and every single girl will comment about me smelling amazing and gets wet af. its the good life for me m8y

>>39022912
>More knee extension
>More upright starting position

How new are you to lifting?

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Lol holy shit @ Trump bringing the Bill Clinton rape accusers to the debate.

>>39020025
>Keeping roids in the fridge meme

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>>39023127
It's growth.

>>39023127
>Doesn't know how non-steroid peds work

>>39022989

Can confirm

are there any compounds that promote localized muscle growth?

>>39023193
Slin does. I don't know about anything else.

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Have you guys ever waxed your nostril hair? I've got some long ass hairs coming in there that are peeking out the bottom and trimmers don't get it short enough

Normie here how do I get a roider to rape my bp?

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I was a former skinnyfat dyel and I started lifting, from having trouble lifting the bar Im getting near to 1.5/2/3/4

Can I still get strength gains if I run Test-P while doing a standard caloric deficit? Im talking about 20%

Can I still do cardio while on the Test-P? Shall I do Test-E after some time? I would really appreciate your comments here guys

first cycle btw.. obviously having an AI in hand

>>39023283
i heard its unsafe to pluck hairs from the nose

>>39023337
don't cut on ur first cycle
dont cut on any cycle unless ur competing and need to come in at 3%
use your time on to bulk, cut natty or cut on a cruise

>>39023348
could you please take a min to explain why? if it is because it is a waste of money I dont mind it that much, I'd rather "pay" something and keep the strength I hardly earned

>>39023368
Your first cycle should be just test, so you can get a feel for how it works with your body (how much AI you need, hair loss, acne, etc). Test is great for bulking but not as good for cutting. There are other compounds that are better for cutting but you shouldn't use them for your first cycle.

>>39023348
What about a recomp?

Never heard anything definitive and Ive done my best to research. Is recomping a waste of gear on 500mg/week? BnC also, since that changes things.

>>39023307
I mean if it's getting raped anyways, a roider is probably a top choice.

>>39022973
Since March for me. I feel like it's halfway responsible for my shitty behavior this year.0

>>39023419
Same, i always lurk and see your posts.
Im pretty volatile with my gf lately

>>39023408
Glad you agree. any advice on how I get it done?

>>39023426
Ye Ye

I'm just as impulsive reckless and emotionally charged as a 20 yo girl. Nice.

>>39023396
thanks man I appreciate your explanation

so a 150mg EOD of Test-P should be fine for my first cycle as a trial?

>>39023441
My grill bought me a crockpot as a surprise gift today to help with my chicken n shit
I exploded on her when she came over for some poundings and forgot to bring it.
But then i see my beautiful trend up face and i remember its always worth it :^)

>>39023399
aint recomp slower even while on test? Id rather swing either on the cut or bulk side

>>39023482
Damn.

>>39023504
Maybe, but I really dont wanna buy a food scale so Im just gonna eat mostly as usual and see what happens.

Worst case scenario its a meh cycle and I psmf on cruise before the next one.

started tren and now i feel like i have to vomit all day. extremely nauseous. this normal?

>>39023526
>psmf on cruise

can you tell your experience on this? mostly in mood, size, and strength pls

>>39023539
Havnt ever experienced that nor have i ever heard of that.

>>39023545
not him but. it's extremely effective, but you will feel miserable and like you're dying the whole time. you lose a fuckload of size temporarily from being completely glycogen depleted which gets discouraging. i lost over 1.5 inches on my arms in less than 4 days or so of being on psmf, and around 15 lbs of water

>>39023541
You should always cruise on any sort of true deficit, especially something like psmf.

250mg test is more than enough to stimulate gross amounts of protein synthesis for preserving muscle. You will do no growing on psmf even on tren.

The only difference would be the aesthetic. Psmf is only a 3-4 week diet anyhow though. You could easily psmf and then transition into carb loading while introducing game changing compounds like tren or mast into the equation once you've hit your goal weight.

>>39023577
I think you meant to quote this guy >>39023541

if so, were you running a split or a SL/SS routine? did your main lifts get affected?

>>39023594
yeah that's what i meant.

the lifts numbers aren't effected strength wise but you can't do shit for volume because of the depletion. you won't be able to handle more than 2 intense sets per body part.

you won't lose strength either though and the volume ability comes back after a week or so of eating normally.

i do a full body routine twice a week that i found on lyles website (author of RFL/the psmf book).

>>39023590
>>39023545

how do you guys survive the hunger on PSMF for weeks without an EC stack?

>>39023617
you can still run ECA while on test-E/P, can't you?

>>39023609
roll!!!!!!!!!!

>>39023622
yeah, but im in a country that doesnt have ephedrine/psuedoeph

closest thing to a stimulant/hunger suppressant is caffeine

>>39023622
hey I thought of something a little wild

>test
>psmf
>yohimbine

will I die if I do this?

>>39023617
600-900mg caffeine
Chewing tobacco
Casein
1.5-2lbs of fish a night
Chromium to regulate insulin sensitivity and hunger

>>39023689
thanks sir bimbo, gonna try that caffeine and casein

by chromium do you mean this : http://www.webmd.com/vitamins-supplements/ingredientmono-932-chromium.aspx?activeingredientid=932

>>39023678
>this is wild
>not Tren, Var, DNP, ECA, PSMF

Are you trying?

>>39023689
caffeine via pills or coffee?

what type of fish?

cutting right now but really need to just do a fucking suicide cut

1 more month until it's cold enough I can just pop DNP like candy

>>39023700
Yeah just go to Vitamin Shoppe and ask for "GTF Chromium".

I take 400mcg 3x daily. Helps reduce my hunger and increases fullness.

The want to eat has completely disappeared after 5 days of water fasting. Interesting.

>>39023617
Caffeine mostly.
Remember to refeed also, knowing you have a refeed meal in a day or two can really help you mentally.

>>39023713
I drink VPX Bang. It's an energy drink with high amounts of leucine, creatine, 0 sugar and 300mg caffeine. Good early morning sips.

I go for cheap white fish; cod usually. I'm in the pnw so I can sometimes get dope deals on salmon.

>>39023700
The casein is super useful. It keeps me as full as eating large amounts of meat in one sitting. It just makes like a glue in your stomach; at least 6-8 hours to fully digest.

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>>39023653
Wow that was quick, janitors are busy tonight.

>>39021872
what a crock of shit ...

>>39023730
Living in the midwest fucks me on seafood in general, which sucks because it's my all time favorite type of food and god-tier for cutting.

Will have to look into the casein more, haven't really considered it as a good additive to a cut.

What flavor of that VPX is good?

>>39023750
i was able to press back and see who it was...'


a 18 yr old blonde psycho cutie arrested for incest and sex with a minor...

>>39023759
Casein is really the only protein to buy for daily use. It's the highest quality possible unless you're buying a top tier whey hydrolysate for post workout and even then you would just look into a casein hydrolysate; if you were made of money.

Casein is just filling, and it's digestion time means the steady stream of aminos are always keeping your nitrogen balance positive.

I like Lemon Drop and America! (Star Blast) flavors of VPX.

>>39023779
>it has an American flavor
sold

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>>39023788
Literally

>>39023445
I would recommend test e or test c over test p because they're longer esters and will release over a longer period of time. You'll get more stable blood levels that way instead of the isolated peaks you'd get with test p. Go to steroidcalc.com to graph your cycle and you'll see what I mean.

>>39023884
Pinning any ester more often will create more stable blood levels.

what kind of routine would be the best on a first cycle?

PPLPPLx ?
ULxULxx?
AxBxAxxBxAxBxx?

>>39023946
Probably the same routine that worked best for you while you were natty.

>>39024033
Although you may need less time to recover and fewer rest days on gear.

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So, the guy i get my test from told me he hasnt been able to restock and its been 8 days since my last shot, am i fucked? I dont even have like a tiny shot left in the bottle.

Its a test blend of enth, cyp and dec, i know the dec is in your system for 2 weeks atleast but will my hormone levels be fucked without the other compounds being active? Im kind of scared of crashing, anyone have any advice?

>>39024145
If you don't think you can get more within a week I'd say start PCT. otherwise maybe see if an UGL can rush you some test?

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>>39024145
No advice, but I've come to tell you you're a fucking retarded for not purchasing your whole cycle in one go.

>>39024145
Just munch some dbol in the mean time

>get text from tinder girl
>where are you?
>hmm I wonder if you are talking with a girl
>hey
>hey
I'm not sure if I want to bone her now specially if it involves bringing her to my house

>>39024330
is she hot? take her to a motel, if she wants to fuck she wont care much where the action develops

>>39020081
>Bimbo: 1 ex: 27

Laughed.

>>39023936

>not pinning every 15 minutes.
>shiggy

>>39024356
Not really she's like 30 and I'm full jew mode to the point where I just want to spend the minimum.

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>>39023801

>>39024374
if she is meh/10 just save it for later, dont respond and say you were sleeping lol

>>39023946

PPLXPPLX should work.

What bodytype is this? First time i hnng over someone not ultraskinny.

>>39021314
so how does one access the pastebin?

>>39024414
I have no idea

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>>39024404

>not uploading the pic

Oops.

Just finished 10 sets incline bench. 3 sets 8x70, 3 of 8x80, 3 of 5x90. And then one where I failed.

Btn press time

Day 24 of tren. Confidence through the roof. Looked at counter girl and told her to turn around. She did I looked at her ass said thanks and walked away to hit the gym.

>>39024431

>I looked at her and walked away

Alpha as fuck breh.

>>39024431
You didn't bend her over?

>>39022989
tfw no comments at 300 tren a week

>>39024456

He's actually just on underdosed mast.

Had he been on tren she'd be in a wheelchair now.

>>39024462
Must be.

Are SARMs /fraud/ enough? Thinking of investing in some since they're legal and I have about a year and a half before I start any sort of roids.

Any suggestions? I'm thinking of picking up some ostarine, but I just started my research

>>39024472

They work but if they still shut you down if you want something noticeable.

>>39020123

> also don't want to totally kill my natty test

are you asking about during cycle or after cycle? after cycle, with proper PCT u won't kill ur natty test even if u're injecting gear.

if you meant during, whether you're injecting test or just doing orals, your body is going to react to exogenous test by shutting down natty test production. so if u're gonna need to run a test base with the orals.

> i don't want to have to deal with injections

injections are not hard. prior to hopping on gear i had never stuck a needle in myself. aside from some mild PIP and getting test fever once, never really had a bad experience. getting a flu vaccine hurts more.

> i don't want to spend countless hours researching

go read the steroid wiki on reddit. it won't take you "countless hours." if u're going to fuck w/ ur hormones, doing a few hours of research is a prerequisite i'd say.

>>39020130

EQ is so mild u don't want to run an EQ only cycle. it shines at high doses run along with a moderate test base, but otherwise i wouldn't bother.

u're going to have to make a decision. are u willing to risk losing ur hair to roid, or is the risk of losing hair too great? only u can decide.

>>39024483
Do you think they're worth it for the price? I'm looking into it and they seem a bit on the pricey side ($100, each month).

t. dyel who doesn't know how much steroids cost

>>39020833

> I'm perpetuating the abuse she inflicts on me

I'm sure that's part of it, but if this is all you can see you're painting yourself solely as the victim.

And the truth is never so cut-and-dry like that.

>>39024548
>>39024483
Also do you think they are a good way to prepare for using steroids in terms of cycling/dosage and such?

>>39024548

>prepare

Start pinning vitamin b12.

Get diet in check.

Make progress natty.

Preparation done.

They're not cost effective vs roids. No.

>>39024566
I fully admit I'm over bearing, demanding and needy. I do just have texts and conversations of her admitting none of this should be on me and its failure on her end to reciprocate in the way I need.

I think this is totally a two way street though. No one here is a "victim" it's just two people who really like to fuck one another but can't meet each other the way they need.

>>39024434
Yeah man tren has changed my life. Probably gonna die young. Oh well.

>>39024456
Not yet

>>39024599
Dude I know how to get steroids but where do u get b12

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>>39020123

holy shit look at this short bus motherfucker right here

>>39023050

different movement ! = better movement, you dumb bitch

>>39023193

mgf

>>39023283
>>39023338

pull mine with a curved kelley hemostat, only bad thing I've heard was possible infection which could be bad if you're the 1-5% asymptomatic carriers of mrsa (colonization largely around the face)

>>39024145
>>39024265

I feel like such a proud parent right now

Heyoo fraud. I've ran one cycle, 500 test 12 weeks, 60mg epi first 6 weeks. I have 25mg x 60 Dbol, 4 vials of test, 30mg x 30 epi, some LGD, and Asin all stocked for my next run. I'm not cycling again, gonna BNC. What should this blast look like? I think I'll keep the test at 500, but should I start at 25mg dbol or split a pill and go 37.5mg to start? Is 50mg too much? Also I'm gonna be running AI everyday my nips get a little puffy on test usually. Any advice for Dbol?

>>39025095
May need to up the AI, some people get higher estrogen with dbol than on a normal test cycle.

>>39020025
Hey guys i have a problem, this is my 6th day on test P, doing 420mg/week first cycle. So far i haven't had any high E sides so i have only been taking test P so far. 1st pin was in my right quad, i think it was sub q because there is a slight high lump, but it's going down.and it's not really painful. Second pin was deep into the muscle on my left quad, there's no bump/swelling/redness it's painful as fuck to walk. I'm supposed to pin today, but my left leg is so fucking sore i need fucking crutches. And i'm getting a throbbing headache out of nowhere? I had morning wood this morning which i haven't had in fucking months so my source is fine i'm sure of that... is this normal? i feel like i have a cold or something. should i be concerned? any advice? should i pin today?

>>39025121
I was only running ai e3d with test 500 so I figure same dose abut ed with Dbol would suffice?

>>39024914
Trap bar deadlifts are a better movement for developing GPP and athleticism.

Because of the unrestricted nature of the knee extension as compared to a regular barbell deadlift.

Only argument you can come up with is ad hominem, stay mad you already know Im right.

>>39025251

>trap bar
>trap

Jerry Plsgo.

Or

>trappy confirmed

Fag Plsgo.

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Posting on update here on my swollen glands blog

So that """tren""" I was on apparently was apparently severely underdosed and who the fuck knows what was actually in the vial. My source is replacing it for free since he said it was part of a bad batch.

In this pic of my glands, it went down to the pic on the right after I stopped injecting this """tren""". They got 85% better so I thought what the fuck, and started this """tren""" again. Bam 1-2 days later they are swollen as fuck again.

I then coincidentally found out that I don't have actual tren but something else in the vial, who the fuck knows what, from reading reddit reviews and my source posting that he had a bad batch around the time I ordered this shit.

I came off that poison and am now on real tren from a different source, and my glands are back down 85% again. So it was not tren causing it, it was whatever the fuck was in that vial, probably a combination of chinese heavy metals, bacteria, viruses, dog hair, cat fur, and cat piss.

Never ran tren before this so I wasn't able to tell it was fake, had some placebo anger but that's about it. Real tren is kicking my ass now with the sides, and my glands keep going down while I'm on it.

So yea careful injecting chinese bathtub bacteria, it can fuck you up like it did to my face...

>>39025335
>severely underdosed
or completely bunk* whatever im tired

anyone have ideas of what could have been in that vial to cause this shit? I googled about nandrolone since I hear tren is faked with that all the time and found this

http://connection.ebscohost.com/c/articles/79745673/effect-whey-protein-nandrolone-rat-submandibular-salivary-glands

"Administration of nandrolone can cause degenerative changes to the salivary gland tissues which may lead to loss of salivary function with expected xerostomia, however these changes were found to be reversible after stoppage of the drug. "

but isn't that weird, I've never heard of anyone taking nandrolone getting swollen ass glands like I got.

Has to be that it was contaminated with something like bacteria or a virus right?

>>39025357
You'd expect there to be a local reaction if it was bacterial (highly doubt viral).

There might be a lab somewhere that does testiny for these sorts of things, Id look into that.


Also, why the FUCK did you inject it again? Seriously what did you think would happen?

>>39025370
Testing*

>>39025370
>>Also, why the FUCK did you inject it again? Seriously what did you think would happen?

lol

thought it might have been a coincidence that they were getting better after I stopped, apparently not.

but it is not trenbolone that's causing it. I got some REAL tren from someone else and this shit is fire, sweating my ass off even in cold weather from doing basically nothing, and my glands are still going down. I even had someone tell me today my face looks so much better.

I only have around... 4-5mls left of that chinese poison. I am extremely curious to see what the fuck is in that vial. Do you have any specific recommendations for a testing method? I know of ways to test for, like, the purity of a specific substance or if the substance is present, but I don't know a test that would show if there is other dangerous shit in it.

>>39025335
>roiding for this
>literally injecting Chinese bathtub chemicals
>trusting "your guy" after he gave you garbage gear once

>>39025430
he has a long-term good rep, just apparently he had one bad batch of raws that caused a mini-shitstorm a couple months ago

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My heart rate is normal but my heart feels like its pumping harder than normal.

Gave blood last week which didn't make any difference. Is it just that I'm more aware of it due to steroids being a health risk or should I be worried?

I'm on 500 test e & 500 bold u.

>>39025457

Where you at?

>>39025528
on that board always mentioned here. most people call him by his first name which is 5 letters long, and when you email him now it's his fucking wife that replies most of the time

>>39025547

>where do you live

>starts describing source

>>39024428
Also answer this pls. What bodytype is that because I hnnnnng.

>>39025565
where do i live? wtf?

>>39025606
Don't tell him, he wants your boipusc

Tell me instead, I'll keep you safe

>>39025617
ok let me get my exact coordinates off my phones gps give me a min

>>39025606

Country, general area etc. Because of your source.

>tfw still nobody that tells you what bodytype that is.

>>39025649
united states but the source is good. everyone that was part of the bad batch and contacted him got free legit replacements, it's just i was/am too retarded to notice it earlier since i never ran tren before and didn't know what it was supposed to feel like.

now that i reached out he's gonna replace it apparently

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>>39025649
Banana

>>39025398
I'm happy your glands are down for you. But you were absolutely retarded injecting that shit for as long as you did.

>>39025660
also it's funny as hell. i pinned that fake bullshit heavy metal + bacteria blend for like 4 months, and never once got tren cough.

the very first time i pinned the legit real tren from another guy, i was coughing my ass off and my lungs felt like they were gonna tighten up until i died

>>39025664

Wedge+banananas ftw.

>>39023062
Who is she senpai?

>>39025680
Wedge sucks, the pic doesn't properly portray it.

Banana is Good in some cases though.

>>39023062
Source on her please?

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>ywn be dolph lundgren
Im sad boys

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>>39025741
Fucking seriously

>>39025741
Easy mode

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>>39025756
>Lundgren received a degree in chemistry from Washington State University, a degree in chemical engineering from the Royal Institute of Technology in the early 1980s, and a master's degree in chemical engineering from the University of Sydney in 1982. He holds the rank of 3rd dan black belt in Kyokushin karate and was European champion in 1980-81

>>39025519
If your BP and heart rate is fine then no worries.

>>39025779
Okay but that's not his body

I finally hate my ex though so that's good news

>>39025788
That's his 58 year old alpha male body.

Mirin his Frame hardcore.

>>39025796
Looks like my dad

>>39025806
Post him.

>>39025785
Thanks, will get bp tested today if possible.

opinions/experience on anavar? Did a tren E/test E cycle last time thinking of switching it up.

>>39025891
>opinions/experience on caffeine? Did some cocaine and meth last time thinking of switching it up

>>39025891
>Taking anavar to switch anything up
you're going to have to find some funky shit to switch up from tren.

>>39025912
>>39025925

k lol

>>39020025
out of curiosity i've been reading a bit about anabolics.
i've read that methenon has a strong anabolic but only mildly androgenous effect.

What does androgenous mean? All i found out is that it's "manly". Would that mean that it's good to gain muscle mass but it wouldn't "increase masculinity"?

>>39026001
The opposite. Anabolic means growth. Andrigenic compounds tend to increase virile effects; granite skin, low water, vascularity, body hair, etc.

contact my friend [email protected],he helped me got proof that my ex was cheating on me and that saved my life so even though i know i owe him alot publicity of his good job is the least i could do,contact him and thank me later,if he doesnt respond tell him from Daniella.

>>39026049
wtf

anyone here took roaccutane? Did it fuck up your liver or other organs?
Do you have power to lift while on roaccutane therapy?

>>39026100
>Did it fuck up your liver or other organs?
yeah my lungs failed

and also my middle ear got cancer

Idk anything about steroids are there any that I don't gotta inject

>>39026142
yeah except you have to use them with those you inject

>>39025788
Finally got there? Proud of you

>>39026162
She's a cunt. I regret being there for her when she was suicidal and wish she had killed herself.

>>39021679
Jelly Devote

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Anyone here bloat like hell when eating anything grain/bread related? like literal moonface and massive lovehandles popping outa nowhere, to a far lesser extent sugary shit, cakes n stuff.

On my power blast bulk I am literally eating like 5 cans of mixed mexican beans, kidney beans, chickpeas, green peas, corn on the cob, etc as my carb source and I don't get fatface syndrome.

Gonna test it and eat like 1500 cals of jacket/roasted potatos as a carb source one day as well to see my limits.

Like 2 months ago i developed a hard knot in each nipple, they both hurt like hell for a while, but all of a sudden they both disappeared.

I had no change in dosages or compounds/ai

500 tren e, 250 test e and 1mg caber a week, been on this for 3 months.

What happened to my nipples? They're completely normal now, gyno doesnt just fix itself like that right?

>>39025150
hi can somebody please answer my questions? i have flu symptoms...

>>39026100
Been on 40md ed for 14 months

No effect on lifting

Liver values are same as a sober person even though I trash myself every weekend

A lot of people vastly exaggerate mental sides, it's placebo

>no one able to get the door to take my delivery
>thought the post office was a 10 minute walk
>its actually 2 hours both ways or 20 mins plus 5$ with a bus

I AM SO FUCKING FURIOUS.

Next time I'll just order 20 fucking vials and spare myself this insane level of blood pressure and cortisol.

Speaking of accutane my acne is 90% gone after running it for 4 months at 20mg. However it made my hair fall out a shitload and now its noticeably thinner.

Been off for around 5 weeks and acnes still gone.

Is my hair gonna come back eventually or what? It's not MPB, no steroid has touched my hairline so far. It's thin all over my head, my eye lashes fell out too a lot from this fucking accutane. It's worth it tho, thinner hair for not having pizza skin on my back chest shoulders neck arms and face...

Reee will my hair come back? I think it will since it's apparently only telogen effluvium

do some women take estrogen for physique? have no clue about cheating, i was just wondering

>>39020025
Anyone know anything about cruising during a cut with Epiandrosterone? I've been cruising on Test E for awhile but I won't have access to it for 3 months since I'm moving overseas. I have a load of Epiandro though.

>>39025785
My bp is 151 / 79

Mild hypertension.

How much difference can cardio make? I've been slacking, only doing it once a week.

Other than that should I stop bulking and turn this into a cutting cycle? Should I just stop pinning for a few weeks while I sort bp out?

>>39027164
>that
>mild

How fat are you holy shit. You are probably like 25% bf and eating fast food all day Jesus christ

I haven't even been doing cardio cuz I am lazy as shit and I am on tren and have normal bp cuz I am not a fatass and dont eat like one

>>39027237
well its still stage 1 hypertension

>>39027237
Mild hypertension is what the pharmacist who measured it called it after looking up a chart. Mild chance of heart failure is still shit as far as I'm concerned.

I'm not fat. Didn't have any trouble on my first cycle but I did up the dose a bit this time.

>>39027298
Should I be freaking out and discontinuing my cycle because of this, or is upping the cardio, and changing from a 4000 kcal bulk to a 1500 kcal cut adequate response?

Thanks

>>39027367
could add in some bp lowering supplements and/or meds
like coq10 and cialis

>>39027164
Your diastolic (bottom number, when your heart is between beats) is fine, and it's the most important because that's what your heart spends the most time doing

A high diastolic will kill you much faster than a high systolic

Healthy reference point is 80 so it's dead on fine

Reference point for systolic (top number) is 120, so you're a bit high

Intensive exercise becomes dangerous above 160 systolic or 95 diastolic, so you're getting a bit close

Just up your cardio, do 20-30mins liss eod

t. ambo, pt, premed human biol faggot

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Where do you buy somatrope/ hgh ?

Going to Costco today, what should I meal this week bros? Probably gonna do chicken stir fry as always but meh.

Also, stocking up the new house with essentials, ideas?

>coconut oil
>cooking spray
>all the spices I can afford
>tuna
>oats
>as much frozen meat as I can fit in the freezer
>rice
>PB

Only thing that sucks is the food is so normie tier. Like the only PB they have is super sugary shit.

>>39025779
https://www.instagram.com/idaslundgren/
his oldest daughter is pretty hot

>>39021307
Heroin is better than any relationship desu

>>39025335
Oh my fucking god man

You kept taking This shit? Even when I had an infection from shootings shitty street dope my lymph nodes never got that swollen.

Are you massaging them to help drain them? Because you really should be. You also should know that having lymph gland issues raises your risk of lymphoma to a significat degree.. have you seen a doctor and gotten on anti biotics or what? Jesus fucking Christ I don't logon here for months and every time I come back I see the most crazy shit fuck you guys aren't retarded.

guys, i have absolute crippling PIP.
Like i cant walk straight forward, its hurts so much.
I cant even contract my muscle.

My question is, if the injection spot is 100% clean but i still have this PIP, it prolly means its a blood clot right?

Does blood clot mean = wasted gear because i injected into a vein?

>>39025457
You are an idiot. He gets Rae's and brews them and sells them. He doesn't do any testing of the product before or after. You buy your shit from a lazy powder mixer and you call it having a good rep. Insane.

>>39028303
You didn't inject into a vein you retard

>>39028350
k then, im just figuring that this insane PIP must be coming from a blood clot.
And i would think this much blood could only come out of vein.

Or is it just my virgin muscle? Was literally my first pin ever.

Btw i was sweating and dizzy as fuck when i pinned, no coughing
People say that get that sometimes and that it wasnt a vein, but still im worried

>>39028366
You had a vasovagal reaction. You didn't inject in a blood vessel and if you did it wouldn't explain the PIP.
PIP is just bad in virgin muscle. Deal with it. It will last up to a week.

>>39028366
You're mostly just being a pussy and $100 says you moved the needle all around or pushed too hard.

And blood happens, I've had it shoot across the room before. That's what happens when you release the plunger before pulling it out sometimes

>>39028390
good to know, thanks apoc.

Do you know if these fucked up reactions go away? It kinda scared me and i also heard you can actually pass out from this shit (wikipedia).

Do you roiding veterans get this sometimes?

>>39027164
Why aren't you taking BP meds? You buy all this gear and then don't get the shit that will help protect your health...?>>39025891
Don't listen to these retards, the guys criticizing you are shooting melamine rotovirus 5000 for months on end.

Anavar is great because it makes you strong and pumped in the gym and you'll push more weight for longer. Eat clean on it to lean out and you'll see what it can do for your body. I start with 40mg a day because I assume most shit is weak and dose it all at once pre workout with caffeine which significantly increases its uptake. The highest I've gone is 80mg but it will raise your BP to unhealthy levels and ruin your lipids. 6 weeks at 40-60mg a day is probably a safer bet. If your shit is weak you may need to run more. If you buy off a reputable source (not from Reddit) you'll pay more but get something acurrately dosed so in the end you don't really spend much more over cheaper sources.

>>39028412
wtf?
if i had blood shoot out of the pin spot i would fucking think it was a vein.

So hold the plunger until i have pulled it out? Gonna remember that.

I dont know what you mean with pussy, the PIP is so insane you couldnt walk with it either brah.

>>39028418
Yeah it was most likely just because of the tension and nerves from injecting the first time and still getting used to it. Make sure you're laying or sitting down for the next pin. Probably it won't happen again but there's a chance it does.
Yes 'passing out' as it is commonly known is literally a vasovagal reaction strong enough to make people momentarily lose consciousness. Its basically just a temporary overactivation of the parasympathic nervous system.

>>39028412
>>39028390
>>39028366
>>39028350

I also have bad PIP.
Is it okay to still pin the same muscle i have PIP in?
For me the whole muscle hurts, not just the pin spot

>>39027164
1 high measurement doesn't tell you much. You need to remeasure it at a moment where you're calm and relaxed. Preferably in the morning and not having done any physically challenging stuff yet.
Keep an eye on it. If it is high again next time get on some BP meds. Ace inhibitors are usually fine for people that do sports AFAIK.

>>39028439
No man, I believe you that it hurts. I meant that youre freaking out for nothing, don't worry about it you'll be fine.

And yeah it was just one stream that shot across the bathroom floor and then just bled a little. Maybe I nicked a vein but I think I just injected too fast and let go of the plunger and maybe created a bit of pressure or something.

>>39028447
not sure if i passed out, but i remember that i was sitting there at one point with the needle in my leg and just doing nothing and staring at the floor.

I imagine passing out = drop down like a dead corpse

>>39028451
Why aren't you rotating spots? Give your muscle some time to heal, if its painful it means there's inflammation

>>39028481
Yeah I'm not saying you passed out just that passing out happens the same way but of course some people experience a very strong reaction and some people just kind of go blank for a second but can still continue on.

>>39028503
i only want to pin quads.
glutes are a fucking clusterfuck, even if im laying down.

upper body spots are just scary, fuck em.

1:i have strong PIP in my right leg, so just pin my left one?

2:Or can i pin a different muscle in my right quad?
Its not like my entire right quad hurts, but that chunk/string of muscle tissue around the spint spot hurts.
I injected from the side, like im supposed to.
3:Can i do it on top?

>>39028532
I really recommend you get over yourself and learn to inject other spots as well.

For now just inject left side. You will probably end up injecting within the same fascia if you inject right again and tho it wouldn't kill you I don't think it would be beneficial to your muscle.

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This Meg chick has been getting really thick and strong recently. What do you say /fit/? Would you?

I no I wood.

>>39028532
Wtf glutes are so easy.

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>>39020025
correct my cycle

>>39028560
Guess ill just do left one then.

I pray to god i wont get the same PIP on my left one like the last time.

If that happens i will be unable to walk at all god damn

I somehow lost a lb over night even though I ate 5k calories and a lot of that was pizza. Is tren really this good?

>>39028588
>10 week
>winstrol
>cycle
No

Also enthanate takes longer to clear than cyp so you'll have tren but not test in your system by week 12-13

>>39028576
Dat ass is yum.

is it a stupid idea to take clen when bulking so i can recomp instead of getting fat?

>>39028618
Lol it will happen but your right leg will become better by then probs. Just take some painkillers to make it more manageable tho or were you that guy that was principally against them lmao.

>>39028865
It won't 'recomp' you at all. Just make you a bit less fat but you could accomplish the same by just bulking a little more slowly.

>>39028889

is it true that clen is anti-catabolic then? I'll just leave it til around March to get some if there's no point getting any now so it can help with cutting season instead

>>39028657
>Also enthanate takes longer to clear than cyp
its the other way around and the difference is like 2 days

>>39023730
where you live bro? western Wa here

>>39027717
Forgot about vitamin D3 and fish oil.

Need more ideas

Any good sauces that aren't sugary shit sold there? I think they have giant bottles of Texas Pete

>>39028466
OK thanks, I've ordered a bp tester so I can track it from now on. Will try upping the cardio and stopping the bulk and if it's not improving after a few weeks I'll look up ace inhibitors.

>>39028936
Yeah there are some studies that indeed found that effect. Nothing comparable to steroids but its def more than just fat burning. You should use it at the last part of your cut only and not for the entirety of it btw. To reduce the chance of adrenal fatigue when getting off.

>>39029114
Upping the cardio is always a good idea. Hopefully it'll just turn out to be a 'falsely' high measurement. Gotta take it seriously nonetheless but sounds like you're doing that already.

>>39028618
just for the record, describe how you're injecting

>>39028947
E has a half life of 10.5 days
Cyp has a half life of 8
It takes more than one half life to clear
You are a shit trip

>>39029400
enanthate has a half life of 4.5 days [1]
cypionate has a half life of 5 days [1]
most people consider it to be cleared after 3 half lives i.e ~2 days

[1]: Behre HM, Nieschlag E. 1998 Comparative pharmacokinetics of testosterone esters. In: Nieschlag E, Behre HM, eds. Testosterone: Action, Deficiency, Substitution, ed 2. Berlin: Springer-Verlag; 329–348.

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I think I'm going to try making mast e with 20%BB 1%BA at 250mg/ml and pray it doesn't crash I guess.

>>39025715
>>39025682
Sierra Skye

ESTEEPEE
Art thou here?

>>39029209
i gotcha thanks for that

>>39029453
>mast e with 20%BB 1%BA at 250mg/ml and pray it doesn't crash
If it's actually pure, it won't hold much above 200mg/mL with standard carriers/solvents, you'll need something like an ethyl oleate carrier or guaiacol if you want higher than that.

>>39029453
Test is slowly changing me from assman to tittyman.

I want to nestle my face in her breasts and just, like just hang out.

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>>39029662
Damnit. I guess I'll have to knock it down to 200mg/ml. I'll probably brew it with mct oil if that matters.

I've emailed various sst labs and they've all said they use 1-3% BA and 16-22% BB for mast e at 250-300mg/ml concentrations. So much conflicting information.

>>39029719
I just know I've had pure stuff start falling out of solution at 200mg/mL before when I went lower than 2/20.

>>39029400
>E has a half life of 10.5 days
>Cyp has a half life of 8
lmao

kys

>>39029760
>>39029760
>>39029760
>>39029760
>>39029760
>>39029760

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>>39029738
Eh I appreciate it anyways.

>>39029706
I had the opposite thing happen.
Although that might be more because of getting /fit/ instead of roids.
I mean I love some nice tits, but a nice ass takes work and determination.

>>39029771
This so much

>>39026205
>She's a cunt. I regret being there for her when she was suicidal and wish she had killed herself.
You bi-polar?

>>39029254
why?

>>39030111
Nice trips, no. I am not. She's just an uncool person.