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>>39007675
>Tfw best comp clean and jerk is 115
Next comp I'll be snatching 105 :/. How do I get better at cleans?

>>39008288
by doing cleans

>>39008288
If your pull is weak, power clean.

If your recovery is weak, front squat.

If your technique is bad, do submaximal cleans with a focus on whatever your faults are.

There are no magical assistance excercises or anything, and in most cases simpler is better.

>>39007675
God dammit post the OP

A thread for the discussion of the sport of weightlifting and all things related. Keep the insults and shitposting to a minimum.

>OP is a fag edition

>If you are new to weightlifting please read these first and check the other sources they link to before asking questions:
http://www.chinfl.blogspot co.uk/2013/07/how-into-weightlifting.html
http://www.reddit.com/r/weightlifting/wiki/faq
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/mjgz5nmcikhhvnu/28iq3URWUW

>helpful blog on some technique quirks:
yashathoughts.com

>The information that you are looking for is probably in the above links.
That includes routines, shoes, information on the lifts, etc. Check out the pastebins for literature or the reddit faq for general information.

>Included in this youtube playlist are videos related to weightlifting which you may find useful or insightful:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCl3WCm2GfvLxvH877oJ1xEA/playlists

>Commisar's notes on the Meme Method
http://pastebin.com/u0jiY8sM

>>39007675
has anyone else noticed that when blueshoes is the op, the thread is always horrible?

>>39008778
the only threads that have gone past 200 posts since the end of the olympics have been non-blueshoes threads
and those threads have unfortunately been the minority

>>39008449
What if I collapse in the catch? My pulls are good and my jerk is well beyond my cleans.

>>39008812
That's tech issue tour timing is off if it's not a weakness in ur back

How to stop leading with hips out of the very bottom of a front squat or does this always happen?

Also, I can't get fucking tight for backsquats so I've decided to just give up and start front squatting exclusively.

Best way to LP on front squats for a decent weight?

>>39008177
absolutely beautiful

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Been doing olys for a month no, got a C&J max of 85.
Cleaned 90, but couldn't get it up.

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>Still can't snatch, only power snatch.

How long did it take you guys to go all the way down?

https://www.instagram.com/p/BLUXoMejCyt-M5GwXzDC8Baub2ScuO2nHxq37M0/?taken-by=japadu2

new lifting. totalled 275 today but squat sucks
280 is best total

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is this a good pull

>>39008449

>if your pull is weak, power clean

uh, if your pull is weak, wouldn't you just do clean pulls

>>39010565
If youre weak off the floor, sure. Clean high pull is suitable too.

But unless you do nothing but hang cleans in training or something goofy you wont really be limited off the floor.

By pull I mean how high the bar goes in the clean. If you just need to get the bar higher, power clean.

>>39010565
power cleans helped my pull but i do clean pulls after

>>39010465
No. Not at all.

>>39010711
i hope you dont think that unironically

>>39008177
Never understood why people still wear baggy sweats while working out. Biggest fucking Pet peeve of mine. Your knees are not that cold if youre lifting that much. California strength always puts out good videos but I cant make it through them because of their shit attire.

Just put some shorts on.

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>>39007675

Holy shit that form

>>39011375
Secret ontarian technique

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are you guys doing shiko? its really helps with your lower body flexibility

>>39013338
i tried but i don't have the balance or the flexibility to get my leg high enough to get a stretch

so i'm sticking to cossack squats

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>>39013338
http://www.sumoforum.net/forums/topic/4178-shiko/

>>39013355
you dont have to get them really high

>>39013338

I thought you said Sheiko for a minute and was about to slap you for memeing

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>>39013401

>>39013509

Hey this is neat, where is this from?

>>39010841
No that was genuinely fucking awful form

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>>39013521
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEWuyqpf5_w

>>39009696
There's ALWAYS a hip component in a squat, regardless of which type. As long as your lumbar isn't rounding and you aren't dropping the weight, you're fine. If either of those are the case, you aren't.

>>39013360
>>39013509
>>39013547

imagine if japan prioritized weightlifting over sumo wrestling, imagine the fucking talent pool if all the sumo wrestling talent went into weightlifting

i'm sure they would beat china if they imported training.

>>39013594

Oh thanks man, I mean I lead with hips from the bottom of a front squat but that shouldn't matter right? If it was excessive, I'd drop the bar?

It's strange, I thought I should be straight up and straight down.

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https://a.pomf.cat/rjyaku.MOV
Rate frontsquats?

I noticed my left knee doesn't track as well as my right.

>Do I use my hips too much?
>Should I take a wider stance?

Right now I'm about where I'd stand to jump as high as I can and my toes aren't turned out much.

>How to get tighter? I feel like it looks a little unstable.

>>39013509
>kouhai bullying
And I thought this only happens in anime.

>>39010903
like that even matters outside of cardio

>>39010438
Your power sn and sn are basically the same depth

You'd jerk more if you could get your head through

Gj tho looking strong

>>39010565
I think he meant working in the entire pull and finish, it's much easier to hit full extension with power variation
I guess it's why noobs often do more in powers

>>39010841
Usually bluey pull isnt bad but if you thought that was good you are seriously mistaken

>>39010903

Sweat pants protect your shins you stupid nigger.

>>39010903
Shorts are gay as fuck

Either half tights or sweat pants. Just like every person in the world except retarded Americans who wear long ass basketball shorts to train in LOL

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>>39014921

are full tights gay, senpai?

>>39014979
no

>>39014979
Only when pas wears them

Are there any videos out there of 140+ kg lifts being done in a commercial gym, with iron plates, to the dismay of everyone there? Crossfitters aren't strong enough for this level of trolling.

>>39015449

pat mendes has done this before after he couldn't stay at Broz

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>>39014979
>dat ass

>>39015578
Show me. I want those vicariousness gains.

>>39014979
Depends who's wearing them. They're kinda gay.

>>39015578
He lifted at lifetime where they had platform and bumpers

>>39014233
u sure tip over a lot

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>>39015596
i lift at a gym with some bumpers i clean 3 plates regularly people think the bumper weighs some low amount :((

>>39014233
HAVING ME DOWNLOAD A FILE JUST TO SEE IF MY EXPERT EYES CAN SPOT WHAT'S WRONG WITH EVERYTHING ON IT

HAHA ARE U JK

>>39015598

maybe, but not here
>>39015726

>>39007675
can you please learn how to properly tighten your abdoment when doing oly lifting? You wiggle like a fucking fish dude

>>39015726
Strange how his grip widens during catch see it in clean alot but not sn I guess that bar probably is fatter tho harder to grip at collar

>>39016268

I've seen it happen when people are heavily internally rotating and then release hook grip

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>>39015615
Why does that happen?

>>39016313

he's american

>>39014233
thats not bad.

you shift your weight some at the top.

you drop down a bit fast, id reccomend descending at a constant rate with a bit of acceleration at the bottom if you want to catch le bounce.

if you stand wider and point feet out more, you can sit more upright. just do what's most comfortable for you.

looks like you could stay tighter. to get tighter, just stay tighter. push chest up sky high, squeeze everything as tight as you can form your head to your asshole.

squat technique isnt terribly important anyway.

>>39016289
lu does it a little

>>39013547
What's the name of that Sumo Wrestler with low bf% that was still fucking huge?

>>39007697

AYYYY

This is why you use oly straps or the quick release straps.

>>39014979
>>39014979

It's only acceptable if you have a home gym

Otherwise it's turbo homo

>>39016313
maybe he's on heel to much or something idk

>>39010465
wait what is that even supposed to be? a deadlift? or a failed attempt at a clean/snatch?

How do I get better at doing proper snatches? I'm way too slow with my pulls and end up muscling it 99% of the time.

>>39014979
I wear them. People around my gym don't give me shit though, because I squat more than anyone who lifts there. So I guess they're fine if your numbers are impressive

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naim suleymonolu 140x2 power sn 105+ bodyweight

>>39010438
Me on the right

>>39017684
yh but can he clean his front squat?

>>39016912

That doesn't make sense

>>39008177
how's your left shoulder?

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>>39018326
feels fine

why?

>>39018348
okay, nevermind then.

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>>39018405
-__-

>>39018109
I mean I can do muscle snatches but I don't know proper tech to do snatches. Sorry if its hard to understand, English isnt my best language.

>>39018608
>Sorry if its hard to understand, English isnt my best language.
Why do people even bother adding this shit?

Either you write well enough that it isn't warranted anyway, or people figure it out by themselves.

Anyone have any experience with programs online? Recommended programs?

>>39018670
Can you help me out though?

How long did it take you 69ers to snatch 100?

>>39018819
I don't know much about oly lifting, I just hang out here to watch webms of strong oly lifters doing squats or whatever.
Sorry.

>>39016289
Was very noticeable on pat, but I think he normally goes collar to collar. I wouldn't be surprised if it was to get a more full grip on a 30mm commercial gym bar

>>39016289
>>39016330
are you still doing oly?

have you learned anything new regarding biomechanics or strength research?

>>39016813
That is a clean pull anon

>>39010465
>>39007675
I love you blue shoes. OWG is dead without you. Keep posting

>>39019146
i love u blushong please fugg my butt xDDDDDDDD

>>39015726
is this pat mendes pre and post roids

>>39008177

>SLAV PRIDE WORLDWIDE

>>39018835
its taking me 10months to snatch 75

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4dUR0Wnv-M&feature=youtu.be

>>39010465
Kill yourself

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>>39018674
bump

Anyone have any experience with programs online? Recommended programs?

goal: strength and overall better olympic lifts beginner/intermediate level

>>39017684
nigga that's not even a power he straight up muscle snatch it

>>39018670
>Why do people even bother adding this shit?

>>39018109
>That doesn't make sense

>>39018976
>I don't know much about oly lifting, I just hang out here to watch webms of strong oly lifters doing squats or whatever.


then dont even fucking reply that it doesnt make sense when you dont no wat u talmbout retarded fuck

>>39020347

Only one of those fellas is myself, friendo.

>>39020347
Try not calling others retarded fucks, and they might even help you.

>>39020156
im doing mash get strong 8 week cycle

im getting strong quick, best bs is 170x5 b4 the program idk maybe it's cause i dont really test 5rm but i did 175x5 yesterday and feeling really confident i can hit 185x5 next week

http://www.mashelite.com/mash-mafia-just-get-strong-8-week-cycle/

i just follow the squat and dl routine in there, i'm currently rehabbing shoulder so i just do some hangs very light weight, i can hit big numbers im sure just would fuck my shoulder up

>>39020380
i am not asking for help because i am stronger than u, i just pointed out the retards that post in these threads that dont no what they talmbout still replying even tho they have nothing 2 add

>>39020411

Don't see you offering much here in the way of useful advice, either, mate.

>>39020402

Some of this notation is confusing. When it says 'Snatch Pull 100% 3x3 work up' does that mean work up to a triple snatch pull at 100% of your snatch? Or a snatch pull 3RM?

>>39020542
Usually in WL programming pulls are written as a percentage of clean/snatch max for clean and snatch pulls respectively.

The Chinese are really the only ones to write pulls at a % of max pull.

It's also very unusual in general to use a percentage as a percent of anything but 1RM, without stating it.

>>39020680

Right.

>Snatch Pull x 2, Snatch, & OH Squat x 2 Max then -20% for 2 sets
>Clean Pullx1, Clean, Front Squat x 2, & Jerk x 2 Max then -20% for 2 sets

Could you decode that for be, as well? What are the actual breakdowns? Is it snatch, thence OHS as separate exercises? Or they dive as a complex? Likewise, should it be Clean+Front Squat, with the Jerk as a separate exercise? Or is it a Clean+Front Squat+Jerk complex?

>>39020680
>>39020812

Also, I notice when you get to week 5 you're supposed to build to 88% and then, if no misses, 'work up' until you do miss. But then am I to understand that on the Pulls I am to do 3x3 at 100% THEN work up to, presumably, a 3RM. Notice it didn't say 'work up to 100%' but '100%' THEN 'work up'.

Why does he write lIke this?

>>39020812
In one set, a 2 snatch pulls, a snatch, then ohs immediately after standing the snatch at 80% of max snatch
It's called a complex

>>39020812
Theyre complexes.

It says do the complex as heavy as you can, then drop the weight by 20% and do it 2 more times.

>>39020861
I assume he means start pulls at 100% for a set of 3 (should be pretty easy, unless you are weak at pull), then add weight over the next 2 sets, depending on what you feel good for.

just use your untuiton.

>>39020862
this is wrong omg china can't even read how can you coach lmaoo

>>39020933
this is the correct way, but he's retarded as well untttyiotion lamooo

>>39020861
the first set of 3 you do at 100% of your snatch/cj then your work up from there to the next 2 sets on whatever jump you feel comfortable taking

>>39019053

I'm on an enforced break since June (should have been since February but I'm an idiot and didn't let SI joint heal so now it's worse). I took the time to finish my masters and travel for 2 months/move to Australia

I haven't actually made an effort to learn anything new related to lifting because I'm spending a lot of time in my field, which is health economics

just started ow and i am 20 years old am i wasting my time?

>>39021411
better kys now, dont wanna waste any more time living

>>39017684
Yeah but he's a fucking manlet.

>>39021330
>in Australia
>health economics
have you accepted barrier linen into your heart as your god and saviour?

>>39016301
There's so much autism in this post I feel like someone should reply to it. Fix that form btw

>>39021411
Will you go to the olympics? It's not impossible but probably not. Doesn't mean you can't be a good hobbyist or compete locally or possibly even nationally depending on what country you're from.

>>39016301
Ive seen a few of this guys webm's i fucking hate his form in everyone of them. Is this guy literally retarded? He should lower that weight until he learns how to properly squat.

>>39021330
God damn sheep shaggers taking my jerb

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>>39016589
Fuck you all! I found it myself, Chiyonofuji. Sadly he passed away recently.

>>39017684
I miss you commi. Post lolis.

>>39014979
You can get away with wearing just about anything if your lifts are better than everyone else's.

>>39022349

google only brings up a laundromat so idk, maybe if they do really good dry cleaning

>>39025248
Holy shit there's actually a place called barrier reef linen.

Anyway I was talking about barrier linen gowns for your surgeons and whatnot. Shit is so cash, aussies have been trialling it for the last little while over at NSW health. But it looks like all your surgeons are going back to green cotton gowns because Australians can't into barrier linen.

It would please me greatly if you guys could give this an honest effort.

>>39025349

there's a depressingly slow push towards evidence based practice. I was reviewing protocols for investment at a fairly well known QLD hospital and this was literally how 8 of the last 9 projects were implemented

>physician goes to a conference in another state or country
>comes back with cool story about a talk he saw
>says we should try it out here
>board says ok
>inb4 multi-million dollar investment into unproven technology with no lit review or evidence of improvement
>physician gets analyst to retrospectively justify project regardless of external validity

we just found that one of the interventions used by a fair few hospitals across Aus actually increase rate of surgical site infection during joint replacement - AND it costs tens or even hundreds of thousands of dollars per hospital to implement and maintain. It all started because someone convinced a doctor at a conference that it was a good idea. That someone turned out to be a sales rep. Fucking blew my mind

>>39025422
You know, we all like to pretend that evidence based medicine is where we are at. But it's contrary to how the vast majority of us think.

The second problem is scientific illiteracy. It used to surprise me how little rigour is applied to decision making processes, but I'm afraid to say I'm a bit jaded now.

If you're talking about steroid injections before joint replacement I think I heard about that.

If you hear about barrier linen at all, I've no doubt the thing you'll hear is how badly the trial went in NSW. But there's other places in the world where people seem to be using the stuff perfectly happily.