fraud

it wasn't dead

people just refuse to create new threads

OP forgets to link previous thread edition
>>38988134

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>>38995488
Send me money so I can do reckless things with it and entertain everyone again.

Oh shit, KoG JB's.

>>38995551
Post email and explain what kind of lulz and shenanigans you will provide

>>38995561
Well, it'd have to involve ketamine, otherwise I'm not interested in the project.

We'll film it all, set up the gimbals and the sliders and just record people being people in places at points in time.

>>38995551
Nobody was ever entertained by you anyway.

>>38995681
I guess you had to be there.

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Is this accurate ?

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>>38995690
>ESTP
>self-obsessed cock sucker
Yep, looks right.

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>>38995488
Probably every Chad on /fraud/ is making sweet love to their 10/10's

Currently on 2nd week of tren a, 100mg EOD. Should I bother getting a T3 supplement for that added fat loss? If so any recommendations that ship to europe??

cos putting bull tetestorone in ur body changes everything. ur no longer human. ur part animal. also retarded

>>38995752
She isn't a 10/10 but she is very attractive

She is wouldhappilydate/10

>>38995752
Might not be 10/10 but id definetly smash that
Wouldroidfor/10

>>38995618
Ever fuck around with DXM?

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>>38995819
nah

she's fat

angles bruh

>>38995934
Still smasb

>>38995934
>she's fat
Doesnt look that fat but thats the point of dem angles
Got a pic that shows said fatness?

>>38995964
have some standards

>>38995974
the pic you quoted shows it perfectly

if you aren't able to tell from that one, you don't have enough experience looking at women's selfies

>>38995991
>you don't have enough experience looking at women's selfies
Sadly i dont, i never encounter women taking selfies at all. Dont really see how one manages to do this either

>>38996010
tinder has made me an expert

>>38996016
Might be it, i dont use tinder
Its kind of funny how being fat is a huge no-no for women so much that they learn to hide it in pictures and men learn to sniff it out
its become an arms race

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How the fuck do i make it with THIS

Is my estradiol high btw

>>38996037
youve posted this pic before
your e2 is below average but not necessarily out of range

>>38996098
i know but i'm confused as to whether this is normal or not

fucking google results say 700ng/dl is mean test level for men under 25 but then others say it isnt

>>38996113
average test levels for a dude in his 20s is about 15 nmol/l or 433 ng/dl

>>38996174
would you say these levels require immediate attention

>>38996215
not without any symptoms
do whatever you want though

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>>38996037
>>38996113
You are normal, you are not a special snowflake. You are in range like 90% of the World. Don't you dare try to convince yourself or anyone you have "low" test and whine about it. That that would only be an insult to people with actual Testosteron deficiency.

But if you need someone to tell you that you can start blasting, let me tell you start blasting. Your life your decision if you think it will make you happy, go for it!

>>38996215
Medically youre fine. Not really gonna experience much if any loss of QoL.

But just roid anyway the whole point is to be unnatty, to leave humanity behind.

>>38996242
>You are in range like 90% of the World. Don't you dare try to convince yourself or anyone you have "low" test and whine about it. That that would only be an insult to people with actual Testosteron deficiency.

That's the complete opposite of what nearly every website shows that men at my age have

>>38996261
You're not converting measurements retard

>>38996261
Just start roiding without crying about it. You won't get any treatment from a actually doc you are in the do it yourself range. Either pull the plug buy a few years worth of gear or leave it be

Is it safe to run DNP (200mg ed), an EC stack and a cruise dose of test (250mg ew) together? Want to lose weight, would like to keep muscle, but is the cruise on top of everything else too much?

>>38996278
I am, it's low af according to EVERYTHING I can find

>>38996292
>Either pull the plug buy a few years worth of gear or leave it be

This is what i'm strongly debating about...

I'd hate to be dependent on it forever

>>38996261
Why do you need an excuse to roid? No one "needs" to roid, so stop trying to convince yourself that you do. You will do it for the same reasons everyone else does: you are lazy and want to get more gains for your work.

>>38996315
>You will do it for the same reasons everyone else does: you are lazy and want to get more gains for your work.

How does that make me lazy?

Does it also make me lazy for taking Whey and Creatine and lifting barbells instead of eating grass and sand as well as lifting a bag of rocks to do it "the harddd way"?

>>38995752
I bet her butthole taste like fruitloops.
masT please confirm.

>>38996315

uhh if you have low test dont they make you roid

Planning my next bulk cycle.

Want to lean bulk on a mild dose of test (currently cruising on 200mg, may keep it at that level, or maybe up to 250mg)

What are the best options for a lean, steady and ideally dry bulk? I don't want to balloon up in size, I just want to slowly add quality mass without losing much definition.

Whats the minimum dose of tren worth running? I can't really afford to blast tren at a high dose.

Is there a way to correctly use creatine to experiment if it will cause hairloss without having major hairloss?

Any good dutch sources~?

Zijn er nog goede nederlandse sources voor gear.

>>38996379
you won't get major hair loss using only creatine

>>38996309
Do you know when you are too low? When you actually are outside the range

But whatever floats your boat, keep in mind an trt dosage wount net you any gains so you can't take that as an excuse.

>>38996379
dont do it.

creatine makes you bloat and gives you hairloss.

its just not worth it.

just like insulin and hgh.
you get good gains, but you will also look shit for the rest of your life.
how is this worth it?

>>38995488
Fraud is dead because you are dead.

>>38996309
You already are if your natty levels are low.

But the pic you posted theyre low-average not truly low-low. You wouldn't have to trt until your 30s with those values.


Who the fuck cares though just leave humanity behind and stop worrying.

The "creatine causes hairloss" meme is not really worth worrying about.

It all stems from ONE study done on only 11 subjects, all of whom were physiologically similar males who probably self-select for a naturally high amount of DHT. They were rugby players.

>>38996408
>8 ng/dl over the bottom of the range
NOT LOW ENOUGH, COMPLETELY NORMAL

>>38996389
You have a big ulab in your country, step up your Google game

>>38996330

>Does it also make me lazy for taking Whey and Creatine and lifting barbells instead of eating grass and sand as well as lifting a bag of rocks to do it "the harddd way"?
Yes. Real men just will gains in to existence. Stop taking short cuts.
>>38996367
TRT dosage isn't even half of a cruise dose. If that's roiding, then taking multivitamins is roiding.

>>38996434
Alrighty then

>>38996460
maximum legal prescription dose for trt is 400 mg/w in the US afaik

>>38996309
Fucking despise people like you. I'm not even gonna take the time to explain why you're wrong because from the replies you gave you already showed you completely convinced yourself. If you wanna roid then roid, but this pathetic excuse of having to roid while having absolutely normal levels is so fucking sad. Every few days there's another guy like this posting their self diagnosed bullshit on fit even though they have no clue what the fuck they are talking about.

>>38996431
Still making mad gains, slut? Despite the whole vegan thing.

>>38996483
oh right

I probably need <100ng/dl levels and be missing a testicle amiright?

>>38996503
Do whatever you want fucking retard.

>>38996509
let me guess you were castrated in a terrible farming accident and that's why you're on gear?

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> blogging trips

I didn't leave just a bit busy.

> working the hardest in my life and simulanteously being the poorest yet, so much for conditioning
> be narcoleptic, require expensive controlled drugs to stay awake
> Obama takes my insurance away; no more medication
> too tired to call up Obamacare and find out why

> acquired the habit of drinking excessive amounts of alcohol to soothe the muscle before injection, removes PIP
> alcohol + narcolepsy + no meds = pass out
> have been trying to inject every day for a month now and passed out or started sleep walking every single time
> think everytime "I'll do it this time" and don't
> officially an alcoholic thanks to steroids
> technically on PCT thanks to alcohol

I had sex twice today and can't even remember it.

>>38996519
the indians don't have your narcolepsy medicine?

>>38996503
That's actually my situation, well it's not missing but it's dead.
Fuck off
Roid if you want to but stop whining

>>38996540
what the hell is your problem?

Did your source send you progesterone instead of test?

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>>38996533

Nope, Indians don't sell amphetamines.

I've been on Vyanse or lis-d-amphetamine for nearly a decade. Originally diagnosed as 'ADHD' but turned out to be narcolepsy... or both, considering the DNA test put me at high risk for both.

However, how could you differentiate narcolepsy from ADHD practically?

>>38996453

damn my googling must really suck then, thanks

>>38996579
Narcolepsy and ADHD are two very distinct diagnoses. I'd rather say what makes you think they're anything alike ? Except for the end result being a lowered ability to concentrate there aren't many similarities.
Also you Can easily buy amphetamines on the deepweb and get a mg scale from eBay for like 20 dollars some gellatin caps and you're g2g

>>38996389
give me your email

>>38996440
no it comes from people literally reporting hairloss from creatine on various forums, youtube etc.

obv it doesnt give everyone hairloss, but if it does for someone, its just not worth it, even if the hairloss is minor

>>38996519

nigga, are you telling you are scared to pin without alc?

i thought this thread was for actual roiders lmao at your life

Wow I'm still really fucking high. Should eating Vicodin, Codeine, Klonopin, cyclobenzaprine and s joint.

How long does this stuff usually last?

>>38996671

[email protected]

>>38996721
Forever. This is what life is like now.

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>>38996637

I suppose it's one of those things you have to be afflicted with to understand. I could go through my medical history but it lines up with both perfectly. Narcolepsy is known for the rare symptom of falling asleep instantly at inappropriate times. However, if you read further, 60% of cases go un/misdiagnosed for 10+ years. Clearly not so obvious.

I've read through the genes involved and they all have a lot to do with the enigma known as 'Dopamine'. It's easy to blame things on dopamine, something I won't do, but it's clear that there may easily be a connection.

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is this cycle a bad idea?
and why?

>>38996752
kys

>>38996740
sent

>>38996744
I'm not saying there isn't a connection. ADHD is definitely linked with sleeping disorders. I'm just saying it shouldn't be too difficult to find out if you have ADHD or narcolepsy or both no matter your genetic makeup, there are clear criteria for diagnosis of these disorders.

>>38996752
you're a fucking retard

>>38996752
Hahaha he posted it again!

>>38996637
>>38996579
>already falls asleep trying to pin
>now you want him to make his own caps
kek

>>38996780

Cool il check

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can some of us become trips

>>38996616
Sure, it's a company that produces "supplement" but not original Pharma it's all "generic"

>>38996778
>>38996793
>>38996803
>he just started learning spanish and he can barely speak it HAHA WHAT A FUCKING RETARD
mind explaining ?>>38996832

>>38996832
It's obviously a troll

Test c 2x a day. Who would do that?

Didn't win the 100 million dollar eurojackpot this weekend either but so did no one else, let's hope for the best next friday.

>>38996752
ur gonna pin twice a day?

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>>38996862 eod then ok
>>38996854 fluctuations are smaller why is this a bad idea?pic related

>>38996852

1. Pinning a long ester twice a day is not only uncomfortable to make a pincushion out of yourself, but also retarded. Inject Test e/c once every 3 days.

2. A long ester like Cypionate takes about 4 weeks to actually kick in. So you're basically going to be on higher test for a week, before for some reason hopping off, JUST as it starts giving you gains

3. winstrol is a shitty drug, just don't take it. Why not take literally anything sdrol, dbol, anadrol, tbol, ANYTHING, also don't take it for two weeks. wtf

4.

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>>38996873
DO THIS INSTEAD

DUMB-DUMB

>>38996848

lol for real, thanks

>>38996876
why is winstrol shitty?
>>38996888
thank you
so what about waiting for the test to leave te body sfter the last pin?I'm afraid that the cortsiol will stay dominant for too long and kill gains before I can do pct

>>38996888
>dbol first cycle
>500mg test first cycle
YEAH BRO GOTTA GET THE RESULTS FAST NO POINT IN USING STEROIDS AND NOT GOING BIG

literally kys

>>38996873
>eod then
>plots every 4 days
I'm so mad

>>38996934
>why is winstrol shitty?

Bad gains, makes your joints hurt, it's just shit i don't see any reason to take it

>>38996936
>Wants to take steroids
>Doesn't want to get big

That's retarded. If you're going to be a pussy why even bother at all? just stay natty and take some retarded SARM that does nothing dumbass

>>38996482
>not taking 1g ew on a cruise
spotted the human

>>38996974
>also im 16 wil I be fine if I ran Al all the way?

>>>>>>>>>

Do not take gear if you're 16 dumbass wtf

>>38996974
well this explains the retardation

>>38996978
>>38996974
took a shot of 350mg sust yesterday,am I fucked already?

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>>38996974

>>38996999
No just finish a single cycle and PCT off you should be ok

>>38997021
I don't want to do a cycle of sust tho

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>>38996974
>>38996999
you're gonna make it

>>38996974
Bye bye

I have a moderate cheatday tomorrow
Gonna cook me some red thay curry yummy.
Any suggestions what's really worth cheating? Please no basic bitch shit like Ben n Jerrys and pizza
Maybe a quiche Lorraine I love that stuff.too

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>>38996974
>>38996934
>>38996752

did someone tell reddit to troll us?

like i see atleast one of these kind of retards here every single thread.

is it a new /fit/ meme to troll fraud now?

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>>38997066
>implying everyone here isn't retarded from steroids anyway

pic related was me yesterday

>>38997066
yeah wtf is up with this shit?? just CONSTANTLY a flow of retards. i started browsing fraud exactly a year ago and it was never fucking like this before

>>38996999
>>38997031
help pls

>>38997136
Don't inject anything anymore. Start mini PCT in a week just 20mg nolva everyday for 1 week then 10mg for another. Learn from your mistakes, don't touch steroids again at least for several more years until you actually know what you're doing to yourself.
You're likely gonna be fine if you follow this advice.

>>38997136
What do you want? You got 4 options.
1. Get test e and switch
2. Stop pinning, one pin wount fuck you over. Probably
3. Pin sust like test p, ed or eod
4. Kill yourself

>>38996949
>Bad gains, makes your joints hurt, it's just shit i don't see any reason to take it

God I see this meme everywhere here.
Have you actually even tried winny or are you just parroting what you read?

Winny is one of the best, if not the best overall oral for getting shredded and looking great.
The joint pain is not a guaranteed side effect, especially if you take precautions to protect the joints.
It's a fantastic oral for strength gains.
Size isn't everything.

To the guy who was asking about winny, its a fantastic drug if used correctly.
Just don't expect it to work miracles if you're not already quite lean.

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>>38997078
fuked myself that too, shit is hard
>>38997225
solid advice

>>38996721
Bimbo you're fucking up your brain

>>38997224
>>38997225
thank you
I'll probably try this again in 2-3 months with arimidex on hand with a ton of more reading and lurking on /fraud/ (also 30kg of chicken breast)
>>38996888
thanks again,forums are a mess when it comes to such advices
I have klomen too and hcg, do I need to take them too ?

>>38997276
>2-3 months
can you just kill yourself?

>>38995488
>trip 1: yeah I'm doing steroids here's my current pick I'm slightly more ridiculously shredded than last time I took one
>trip 2 : nice here's my progress from taking steroids imy actually off x so I'm bloated now tee hee
>avatar fag : roiding for this
>anon 1 : where can I get steroids
>trip 1 : get it here
>trip 2 : fuck that guy he low dosed me
>trip 3 : fuck you I don't low dose anybody
>anon 2 : you fucking cheating fags enjoy your small dick!

That's why.

>>38997276
oh god pls be troll

>>38997276
google lee priest's height
dude did roids when he was 13

>>38997331
and he also turned out retarded and got a tribal tattoo on his face

>>38997255
Don't worry. It's already fucked. Nice that you care though

>>38997359
nah that's just age man

>>38997398
Woa impolite

>>38995488
does Estp actually write a blog? If so, please post link

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>>38997419
No. After experiencing your brain post break up its fair to say

>>38997471
I'm fine. Fucked her last night so I'm cool.

>>38997471
>chad wrote that while fucking her

why do all of the other steroid forums advocate against psmf? they all say it's stupid and a "moderate approach" is better but never say why

>>38997640
Whoosh effect maybe

>>38995855
Nope.

> tfw stalking my high school crush
> find her tumblr
> find out she is addicted to heroin now
> has posted a ton of nudes and may actually now sell her body for drugs


really not sure how to feel about this

>>38997651
I love tumblr

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>>38997655
all I know is its good for finding nudes of people you know

>over 4 weeks of doubling my blast to 1.5 test 1.2 eq
>over 4 weeks of eating past 1000 over maint and 400g brotein
>only gained 9 lbs including water weight

WHAT THE FUCK IM BARELY EVEN TELL IF IM GROWING REEEEEEEEEE

Would you rather:

live in the elder scrolls universe

or

the star wars universe.

you can pick any time line from them

>>38997800
Dark souls universe.

>>38997800
star wars

>>38997850
this

>>38997850

ur nuts kid

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>>38997782

you mean 9lbs of fat

in your tits

>>38997980
That's u

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>>38997994

you leave my chesticles alone

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>>38997980
>>38997994

>>38997253
What's better for strength var or winny?

>>38995690
I took this
I am INTJ and so is 13% of the population
Why is my feels guy so devilish looking

Also how long do you guys if you do at all, run your pct off a vasic 500mg test cycle

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>>38998006
with dat/tom out of the picture, i've purchased $200 in bunk/underdosed peps from various clearnet sites

are there legit products out there anymore, or is the market just filled with scammers?

>>38998089
neither friend

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>>38998109

gonna be a gamble regardless, but I've seen okay things about the canadian based one on sst

ironically easier to get decent generic gh at this point

>>38998189
+1 for the canadian guy

Tren is making obsess over a wrong commited on me 10 years ago. Today I did a google map search and located these peoples houses. Analyzing escape routes. Is tren known to fuck with your head?

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Fucked my shoulder again on bench.

Convince me not to go OHP/Push-press only with occasional chest flies.

Gonna get delts the size of watermelons

>>38998308
Yes like absolutely

>>38998398
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYKScL2sgCs

On 50mg winny 50mg var + 500 test e Ofc

I cut the alcohol but is there a correlation between cocaine and orals? In terms of liver toxicity

I've tried googling a bit but can only find bro-tier answers.

From what I would imagine though cocaine is absorbed into the blood stream through the nose so it wouldn't be hepatotoxic?

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>>38997645
Only worth it potentiated with lots of marijuana, even then it's got one of the worst body loads.

Great as a one or two off thing. Some weirdos with fucked brain chemistry get addicted so if it's especially good I wouldn't do it a second time.

>pic related fucking amazing dis music

I miss ceretropic desu

On week 7 of my 300 test 900 eq blast. Getting really paranoid about my titties. Taking 12.5/10 masin daily. Dropping it down to 250 and 800. Think it will help? Guess I'll find out.

>>38998530
>taking ai

>>38998308

So that's why I don't get worse on tren. Im already like this.

>>38998482

Just asked chem for you. Kek.

I know alcohol + cocaine is worse than just one of them because of some interaction between the two, not sure if the liver is involved.

>>38995934

Ew.

>>38995855

ESTP liked it.

>>38997651

I banged my first crush about 18 months ago. She was pretty much addicted to drugs, still hot and fun.

But no need to actually pay for it though, just rebound stuff for both of us.

>>38995690

Wat. What's intp here?

>>38995488

Total damage today, 400 kcal. Exhausted but I lost half the water/fat in my face. I look a lot better even though I barely lost a kg the past 10 days.

>>38998438
Cheeky cunt

I dont just bench and go, but strong setup doesn't help I continually manage to fuck my right shoulder. No point sawing through my tendons, just gonna get shoulders Atlas will be jelly of.

>>38998538

I take letro on 350/900.

>>38998530

>lowering gear
>not upping ai

Get out.

>>38998543
Didn't answer my question in anyway tho

>>38998551
Also
>>38998530
All you've said is you're paranoid, you haven't claimed any symptoms
If you're taking ai purely out of paranoia kys

>>38998556

I know, I have no idea. That's why I asked chem. Hasnt replied yet.

>>38998482
>cocaine is absorbed into the blood stream through the nose so it wouldn't be hepatotoxic

By your logic here, butt chugging would protect your liver from alcohol damage.

Here's a hint:
>It doesn't

>>38998569
Ah, misunderstood you, thought that was the answer you got

>>38998568

Didn't took even see the paranoid part.

It's pretty easy though. Eat like you always do and if you suddenly spike in weight it's likely bloat and e2 is elevated.

Or just wait for other e2 signs.

Obsessive compulsive the notebook watching disorder for example.

How much is the MSRP for one (1) bottle of a starter steroid?

>>38998578

Google this

Acute cocaine-induced hepatotoxicity with features of shock liver.

I'm looking into interaction with other stuff now.

Interested myself, a friend wants to hop on but he's a cokefiend.

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>>38998577
Obviously cocaine is hepatotoxic to some extent but the effects it has on the liver are generally taken lightly in comparison to the other side effects of it, that's why I'm asking

I don't know why I'm bothering replying to your passive aggressive high estro response but,

Here's a hint:
>kys

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>>38998607

You tell us a manufacturer and we'll ask them for you.

>mfw asking retail price
>retail
>steroids

If you're in Thailand just check the pharmacy.

>mfw no retail roid stores :(

>>38998612
Hepatotoxicity is mainly only mentioned when cocaine is used in profuse amounts

>>38998637

Yeah, I know, not sure about Cocaethylene. But I don't think I ever heard of it being much worse than regular cocaine.

Are you worried about liver damage? I ran msten, mtren and sdrol 20/20/1 for a while with no real issues. Var and winny are very mild on the liver iirc.

And they shouldnt interact as far as I can tell. It's Just damage from orals + cocaine. Nothing extra.

But that's guesswork.

Any idea if there are compounds similar in toxicity to Coke that are used medically? Maybe there's some research on that + methylated compounds.


Chem says not directly. But Coke+orals+alcohol = bad

>>38998616
Bruh youre way overreacting.

RoA has very little effect on hepatotoxicity for the vast majority of substances. If its in the blood the liver is going to process it.

>>38998711
>>38998708
Im not drinking while on orals,
Var is mild but winny can be a bit harsh, obviously not on the level of sdrol etc.

I figured the stacked effects of Coke and orals wouldn't be bad since there's not much to find about it, but better safe than sorry ofc.

I'm not one of the trips who just yolo stacks drugs and gear

>>38998761
I dont know enough about the liver to say it's safe to stack cocaine on top of orals.

I say get regular bloods and take your TUDCA

>>38998761
>I'm not one of the trips who just yolo stacks drugs and gear

That's me. But I had bloods showing me I was fine on methyltren and sdrol AND mtren.

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>>38998929
>methyltren and sdrol AND mtren

Can low estro make you bored?

Been extremely bored with everything lately, nothing is entertaining at all really and it kinda sucks. Only thing I could link it to is upping my AI, but not really getting many other low e2 symptoms so it's hard to tell.

Lel I was just talking about coke last night. I took the day off work, chugged water and Niacin even tho it's broscience and just gonna hope I don't get tested on Monday.

Can't believe I was so drunk I forgot I can't do drugs anymore lol

>>38999430
yes it can it happens to me too

>>38999447
Ok that's reassuring. Dialing in AI is such a pain in the ass.

>>38999493
i'm on 250 test and got paranoid about getting tits.

every time i take ai even just an isolated dose of 12.5mg crashes it pretty bad.

>>38999396

I ended up with serotonin syndrome that month.

Everything was fucked but liver was fine.

I had at least 20 full blood panels that week.

Not sure but I think the massive amount of gear might have helped when I got rabdo.

>>38999544
>serotonin syndrome
don't you take grams of md at a time?

I think test is making me racist.

Or maybe it's 4chan

>>38999520
Yeah was doing 12.5mg e3d and had itchy nips so I tried eod.

Nope, too much. Not sure what next, they're ugl capsules so partial dosing is going to be a giant pain in the dick.

So did my first pin yesterday afternoon, been about 24 hours.

The pin was a lot more mild than I thought would be, all I've got is a tiny red dot and a hardly noticeable soreness around it. If I just did a half ml shot of 250mg/ml test e is that normal? I honestly thought it would be worse even though I'm only doing a normal dose(125mg E3D).

>>38999565
There is nothing wrong with being racist.
Biology is the root of culture :)

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>>38999565
It's both. Mostly 4chan though.

Some people are just fucking worthless regardless of race. Incidences vary, you gotta go on a case by case basis it's only right.

>>38999520
im also on 250 test E / week long term, i tried to use aromasin but found that even 12.5mg like you said would crash my estrogen. ive found through trial and error that 0.15mg of arimidex each morning keeps my e2 at the perfect level.

>>38999587
how the fuck do you dose that?

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>>38999578
Pic for reference, side of right quad

>>38999598
hello fatass

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Planning my first cycle, read a lot hopefully it's enough.

14 weeks total
12 weeks 250mg of Test Enanthate E3D.
2 Weeks off cycle with Nolvadex in case ester sides get out of hand.

Pretty basic standard beginner cycle from the wiki. One question though,
would 8 Vials be enough for this cycle @ 10ml per?

Will aromasin hold in water? Gonna have to volumetrically dose somehow.

Also have coconut oil.

>>38999624
>One question though,
>would 8 Vials be enough for this cycle @ 10ml per?
one question did you attend math in 1st grade?

>>38999589
fully dissolved into pg @ 1mg / mL, I use an eyedropper and found that 10 drops from it is 150 microliters

>>38999608
M8 I'm the skinniest cunt here

>>38999624
>12 weeks
>2 pins/week
>1 mL/pin
>1/10 vial/mL

Multiply. 12*2*0.1 = 2.4 vials.
Yeah, I think eight vials would be enough lel

>>38999658

Uwotm8.

I should be under 160 by november 1st. And im 6'0.

>>38999831
WTF you're 160 and you're cutting?

>>38999562

I had my first party drug late 2015. Serotonin syndrome was fall 2014.

It was something with migraine meds. Probably.

>>38999836

180ish atm.

I didnt lift for 2 years and got back into it last week of august.

I got down to 155 back when u started and lean bulked to 180 before I cut to 160 again. Then to 170 and down to 160 again. And then got to 165, which was when I think I looked best.

>>38999864
>got down to 155 back when u started and lean bulked to 180 before I cut to 160
wtf?

>>38999873

This was 2011. I was 230ish when I started losing weight.

So it was 230 then a cut to 155. Then bulk, cut, bulk, cut, bulk.

>>38999831
170 at 6'1, 15% bf although I have a pretty visible six pack so could be wrong

>>38999931

I don't know, probably 12-15. I get an outline/top at 14-15 but nothing more until I dip below. I was 8ish at 165 with full abs back then. I honestly hope I can get to 155 with abs and at least keep my strength.

Stats?

>>38999961
Atm 75kg bench, 45kg OHP, prob around 75kg squats,85kg deads. Pretty shit but I'm doing all the main compounds 4x8 as well so it'll be different to last year when i was doing 5x5.

Last year at about 4kg heavier I was squatting 105kg, benching 85kg, deadlifting 130kg, OHP 60kg on stronglifts. Only about 5 weeks back into lifting seriously after losing 10kg after I lost my job last year.

>>39000048

Ah. Then 15-20% could be legit.

Similar circumstances. I was 75kg and hitting 220kg squat and 135 incline bench 2 years ago.

Stats are 130x5 squat and 85x8 incline bench now, 5-6 weeks into lifting again.

I suspect i'll hit 180x5 and 120x3 by february.

I lost +- 10kg in 5 days. Was in a coma for 2-3 days. Lost over 50% of my strength eventually.

Just lift, we'll make it.

Pic again 4 the lulz. This skinny twig squatted 220kg.

>>39000102
Damn that's fucked, pretty fucking good for natty.

Told my ex off.

Told her I love her to death and I think she's amazing but that she's he worst person I've ever met and that I can do better.

>>38996999
will this fuse my growth plates?

>>39000146

Natty lifts were 120ish and 200ish. I didnt bulk much on gear. Just cut.

Probably hard to maintain that on low T.

Levels were 8.5-11nmol (250-300ng iirc)

All you can do is keep on lifting. Nothing more to it.

>>39000216

Yes. Forevermanlet.

There's more to it, start loading up with letro if you're worried

>>39000146

I also thought i was fat and needed to cut much more.

>>39000265
I cant afford and Al rightnow
wat do ?

Just injected tren E and a few seconds later got a pretty fucked up feeling in my chest/lungs. can barely breath and coughing a really deathly-sounding deep cough.

I guess this means it's legit right?

>>39000387
im about to vomit from FUCKING coughing what the fuck, i heard only tren ace does this???

How do I become /fraud/? Is there some sort of "coach" I'm supposed to find?

>>39000181
Damn dude, harsh. I basically told my fuck buddy that I'm only considering GFing her if she goes to the gym, loses some weight and fixes her fucked up diet. She's 20 and still average weight but she wont stay like that for long with her shit diet, alcoholism and developing weed habit.

>>39000396

Any androgen into bloodstream will. Tren is the worst though.

>>39000372

You dun goofed. Always keep ai and a serm on hand. It's basics.

Go beg for money or work. Letro is cheap.

>>39000431
>Any androgen into bloodstream will. Tren is the worst though.
never got this before at all, and i've been using for 8 months now.

very first injection of tren e, bam, coughing and feeling like i am gonna die

i've done so many test injections now, and never got this.

>>39000399
Who gives a fuck?

I came in her last night we made plans and when I followed through she told me no and treated me like shit fuck her

>>39000452

I pinned for over a year, nothing. Think I was 25-30 pins into tren when I got it.

Happened once with legit dhb as well.

Dry cough, dry everything. Inward air being sucked out of you feeling.

>>39000472
Hey what did you mean by this?
>>38997643

I know what the whoosh effect is, but why would that make other roiders not like psmf?

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>>39000472

>dem lips

Can't wait, Halloween should be today.

Im so going to fuck this up by thinking about my ex again.

Anyone know where I can get some good, cheap Ostarine?

>>39000480
Because psmf is so depriving of nutrients. I shoot up like 15lbs overnight after psmf

>>39000518
Yeah the refeeds are insane appearance-wise. I will wake up the next day actually looking full, it gives you motivation to keep going

>>39000518

>600 kcal total, including my post workout shake in 15 minutes.

After 12 sets of rows. 5 sets pullups. Some back work and leg raises. I think I deserve the 150kcal

>>39000529
Yes

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>>38995488
wtf is that reddit board where you buy frauds?

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>>38996440
>hair loss treatment revolves around blocking DHT uptake
>creatine raises DHT by >50%
>creatine doesn't contribute to hair loss

>>39000431
it's somehow 3times more expensive than it should be here(175snicker bars worth of my currency)
dollar to lira value is like2.90 fuck,what about aromasin or arimidex? they arent as expensive like 70 snicker bars

>>39000593

They should all work. Just don't go with nolva/ralox.

>>39000257
What were the circumstances of your blood test?

Was it just one or multiple?

>>39000609
how much time do I have ?

>>39000609
>>39000769
I mean how long before my bones age too much *

>>39000714

I was lethargic and it wasnt my thyroid. Had slight gyno for no reason, so demanded bloods.

>>39000769

Dunno. Days? Months? Or too late already? We cannot tell you.

>>38995934
That's an old picture. Like i said. When we met we were both out of shape. Drunk every weekend, doing drugs and eating like shit. But then we realized we didn't want that life and turned shit around and make each other better.

>>39000808
Was there anything that could have been crashing your test?

Was it only one time that you had bloods?

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>>39000972

4 tests. One spiked into absurdly high levels after alcohol and no sleep. Another was around 13nmol.

>>39000970

Morning mast, didn't know that was your girl.

>>39001001
Morning breh. It's cool.

It's important to let nobody decide your faith. Be happy with yourself and the things you have. When you look at yourself in the mirror and think everyday, no way, is this me? Can it be real? Only then you have accomplished life it self. I can't thing of something more important

But which faggot does post that picture in every thread?>>38995752

Get your own ugly girlfriend faggot.

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https://scontent-amt2-1.cdninstagram.com/t50.2886-16/14558593_1786686138213022_2673096922436206592_n.mp4

this video made me cry almost.

Everything is perfect about this video. If it had a asshole i would fuck it

will taking DNP without hopping on a cycle wreck the small amount of muscle mass that I have?

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>>39001034

She looks tiny, and like a scenegirl/emokid. Don't tell me you were a twinky twig back then pls.

>She set new American records for the snatch at 105kg and the clean and jerk at 133kg.

I think I might try oly lifting, seems I did have decent strength genetics so why the fuck not.

Pic related.

>>39001063
I was skinny fat, but still bigger than most over here. But you gotta improve each other. ESTP will never know that feel, because the only thing she is used for is sex. That's why she's mad at me.

I actually weighed 60kg at one time, when i was on that der amphetamine and mdma. Nothing better than the mdma crystals from my time.

Nothing is impossible, except being me.

So a tiny girl is stronger than you?

>>39001044
>>39001044
yo masT, can you try accessing your NL source and tell me if it works for you?

>>39001108
i think she is just angsty at anyone who doesn't hate themself

>>39001112
I can remember i had the same shit as you. Probably unstable server, or some other unknown issues.

Can you still contact them via mail? Try to send them a email.

>>39001117
She was first like: i don't care about being a degenerate. I can't feel. All acting tough. But at the end we all have our weaknesses as you can see.

No decent man wants a relationship with a wore. 3/4 sexual partners before you is the max, we all know how it works. We don't want any second hand turt sandwich. If i would be her, i would never tell a men she was a whore.

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>>39001108
>Nothing better than the mdma crystals from my time.

>tfw you have 100g under your pillow, tested pure, but vowed never to take them again.

I have 2cb incoming. At least that doesn't kill gains or strength.

Amphetamines are decent for cutting. Though I've kept myself to 800 kcal a day for the past 11 days without drugs.

Lowering to 500 until im done cutting. Dnp starting tonight.

Yolo.

>So a tiny girl is stronger than you?

Right now, maybe. But she only looks tiny. I should weigh less than she does at the end of my cut. And then i'll be bulking slowly.

Not sure, but she might be stronger than most of /Fit/. Her C&J is only 20% lower than the world record at her weight. The record for MEN.

She pulled 10% less this year than the men in her weight class in the US. It really was impressive.

>>39001147
well its just odd it happened right after i ordered, fishy feeling.

i contacted them a day ago via email, nothing so far.

i still believe they are legit, but this just seems odd

>inb4 masT is the owner and linked me his own website

>>39001147

What brand gear you running btw? I might be brewing up some with old trips from /fraud/ next year. At least for orals you could grab a decades worth for pocket change.

>tfw sdrol and msten for cheap

I love raws.

>>39001184
I am happy I am done with that shit. Cold turkey with everything. Won't do you good either. Especially doing drugs and steroids. You know what happend to zyzz?

Impressive. Does that motivate you?


>>39001195
They are really shitty in communicating. Like, really not professional. But the quality is the only reason I am still ordering there.

A Dutch reporter used steroids for his documentary and used that brand, I told you about., He first let it test it at a laboratory and came out to be pure af.

I know your worries. But i have ordered already many times via that site and never got scammed.

>>39001253
Yeah as i said i dont think they are actually scamming me.
Funny thing is they have replied to all my emails immediately except the last one.
It would suck hard if they actually did, but in the end i still have other sources on hand.
Thanks for output, ill just wait

What should I expect going into my first cycle of test ?

>>39000808
what about ghrp-6?
dosage for a 147lbs person?
bone gains?
supression?

>>39001615
Not much. Gains still take time, even on steroids.
Doing multiple cycles is a different story.

Expect like 20 lbs of weight gain

Ughhh fuck this girl what a shitty person

Glad she's gone but who the fuck treats people this way? Called me up in May because she was suicidal, didn't say so at the time, just said she needed me.

Now when I need her nooitthhinngg

It's cool I have lifting and drugs

>>38999931
>170, 6'1, 15%
>starting gear

You aren't even over your noob gains wtf

>>39001690
Bimbo :(

can /fraud/ save me from skinny ankles or would I just end up having a toothpick with awkward calfmeat above it?

>>39001034
>just be you and don't let others makes decisions for you brah
>I'll just shit on everyone online and be an asshole

you're a walking pile of hypocrisy
I'll keep posting that slag until you just either kill your self or fuck off.

>>39001732
Hey dude!

What is /fraud/ opinion about SARM's?

Are they a safe alternative to Test etc?

>>39000387
No you just got some into a vein

I was on 700/ew tren-a for 8 weeks and never had a tren cough, injecting Ed

>>39001736
Depends how old are you

>>39001751
27, almost time to give up

>>39001716
nah I was half decent last year i just want to start gear now to get back to where I was and further faster

Haven't lurked in a while.

Is Albfag still around?

>>39001848
If what you're saying is true then you'll get back to where you were within 3 months
Without gear

>>39001593
You're not the only one who is sending them emails cause the site is out. Also don't think your order I'd probably a few hundred euro makes them pack up their business and decide to retire man. I get it but stop worrying so much, give it like a week before you can say your concern is genuine.

>>39001848
Your stats are so dyel, gear would be such a waste.

Do a high protein clean bulk and watch the magic happen.

Just by looking at your stats and the fact you're hopping on gear,
I'm going to conclude that you don't know how to diet properly, train properly, and that you are impatient.

>>39001690
Man, girls can be really cold blooded. I just stopped having expectations of anyone while I was severely depressed and that eventually helped me a lot. If you don't expect any good or help from anyone then it doesn't feel bad when people aren't there for you. And every nice thing people do do for you you appreciate more.

>>39002009
I know how to do everything it was just that I was inconsistent last year because I was chasing girls.

>>39002009

I did bounce back decently, but I've also been out of it for far longer and don't expect to come off the next 18 months or at all.

Thoughts on eq? Also, hair loss. Theoretically, running 700mg tren is just as bad as running 2g for hair right? So running 1g deca or eq vs 2g won't change much?

Wondering. I ran tren for a while and have all my hair but im just paranoid.

>>39001750
They are less effective alternatives. Safety is relative on things that only just hit the market and no long-term effects are known yet. Also there is a risk of buying fakes or mislabeled products. I'd say something like lgd4033 is a good thing to test the waters before roids in terms of 'feeling'. It's like a stepping stone.

I think in all honesty in terms of absolute safety you're better off just doing a basic cycle after educating yourself enough to know what you're doing.

>>39001950
Sometimes

>>39002038

Lgd4033 suppresses natty T anyway. It's more something you add to trt than something on it's own because of it's effects on endurance/work capacity iirc.

>>39002054
It suppresses at higher doses and longer times. It doesn't suppress very hard and in studies people recover quickly (<2 weeks), i also didn't say he should run it without a mini PCT just as extra precaution. But honestly 5mg a day at like 4-6 weeks isn't likely to shut someone down completely. To make any worthwhile gains on it I agree shut down would be eminent tho. Anyway the whole point was better to do roids if the main concern is safety kek.

>>39001999
>>39001253
>>39001147

fucking kek, because the package just arrived.

but now i have a confirmed based source.

thanks everyone for being emotionally supportive


>tfw bloods on tuesday for natty levels

should i wait?
i mean im pretty healthy, im not low test or anything and i eat very good.
Should i still wait for my first pin and get bloods?
Again i know everything is in check and that im high test.

I would have just get bloods done after i have pinned.

any thoughts?

>>39002448
You should wait 4weeks before getting bloods if you want to know if it's legit and how high your dosage gets you and how much Ai you would need if any.
If you get bloods next week you wount have any useful information cause test will still be climbing and so will estrogen

>>39002037
>running 700mg tren is just as bad as running 2g for hair right?
not according to my understanding
more tren in your bloodstream increases the rate at which it binds to the hair follicles
this would be more noticeable with eq than anything tho i think since it doesnt bind to the hair follicles directly but only after its been 5 alpha reduced

>>39002502
Oh no you misunderstood.
I was getting bloods next week for my natty levels.

I didnt expect the gear to arrive today, so now i really have the urge to pin right now.
Obviously if i pin now, my levels will be different/odd when i get bloods done on tuesday.

And im asking wether i should wait till tuesday or not to get natural bloods done, even though i know i am healthy and have high/good test levels.

>>39002549
Will a bad bloodwork prevent you from roiding?
Be honest if the answer is yes than wait. If no pin now and do a bloodwork mid cycle or after pct (lel pct)

>>39002084
>>39002054
>>39002038
How much and how long does one take Sarm / Ostraine?

Do you need a PCT and what supplements would you suggest to take?

>>39001690
Gay porn. Do you forget you got that too lol

>>39002517
>this would be more noticeable with eq than anything tho i think since it doesnt bind to the hair follicles directly but only after its been 5 alpha reduced

This is new to me. The conversion to dhb is fairly low right?

What's the best steroid to keep hair loss to a minimum deca or eq probably, right?

>>39002610

Try looking up at least something yourself.

>>39002599
No it wont, exspecially because im sure i am high test and have good bloodwork.
Im living pretty healthy.

Guess ill just go ahead and pin then.

>lel pct
Thats right buddy, that wasnt my cycle that has arrived today.
I am prepared for le BnC adventures

Also i was blown away at how fucking tiny the test vials are (10ml vials).
Like they are so fucking tiny, it looks like there is no fucking way i can get 10 shots out of it

>>39002669
probably yeah
deca has some weird interactions with finasteride tho so youd might to avoid it

>>39002448
Just wait a week man wtf is the point of getting bloods at all if you're gonna take it right after just starting roids. It won't tell you shit you wanna start today then cancel your appointment for bloods because there's no point.

Looking to get more out of my cut (going good this far) and I'm limited regarding what I can get my hands on what do you think about this cycle to get a little extra out of my diet, cardio & workouts?

W 1-8 Anavar 40mg ed
W 1-12 Test e 100 mg e3d (to replace lost test from being shut down from var)

Aromasin on hand.

Pct Nolva/Clomid

>>39002669
if you drop finas then deca is pretty safe when it comes to hair.

if you run deca, obviously do low test because it would kill the point otherwise

>>39002706


read >>39002549

The bloodwork for tuesday was meant to have an overview on my natty levels.

Obviously if i hop on, i will get bloods like 4 weeks after i have pinned, i am well aware of that.

>>39002721
Then what are you even asking. If you wanna get bloods before your cycle do it, if you don't care just hop on man.

>>39002670
Try some GHRP vials that shit is ant tier small.

Should I buy 70weeks worth of 500/500 test eq for only 700€?

>>39002610
Read up on some information about sarms and roids. Don't just look at the sham sites that pop up on Google when you enter sARMs but try to get some less biased information in studies and from forums. Any website selling sarms or linking to shops will just tell you they're amazing because they're marketing a product.

>>39002731
yes, if i should get bloods done before my "cycle" (lol).

>If you dont care.
That doesnt really matter, i dont know yet what would be the smartest to do, that is why i am asking.

But from what i gather it doesnt fucking matter.

ill just pin.


>shave hair off
>warm up vial in hot water
>wash hands
>swipe vial with alc tab
>swipe injection site with alc tab
>wait for both to dry the alc
>use draw needle
>put same amount of air into syringe as you want to draw
>push air into vial
>vial is upside down
>draw
>tap the syringe to get out air bubbles
>swap to pin needle
>push syringe a bit and wait till tiny drop of oil comes out of needle to lubricate it
>relax muscle
>pin slow, around 1" inch deep (doing quads btw)
>dont shake
>push oil in
>after you remove needle, take padding wool and push against injection site
>wait a bit and massage the area
>swipe injection site again just to be sure
>do not work out quads the next day, to prevent blood clot
>heat pack if PIP is bad


anything i missed?

I'm about to buy a fitbit.
If you had $160 you had to spend on something and it can't be a bigger roid stash, what'd you get?

>>39002873
>do not work out quads the next day, to prevent blood clot
I actually always pin the muscle I am about to train the same day.
Never get pip,never had a problem.
But I can only give you broscience reasons for it

>>39002887
Ai pct belt knee sleeves

>>39002918
Sounds good.
I just know that if you nick a vein and work out that muscle, that vein might burst open, leaving blood in your muscle that stays there for days and weeks, giving you a lot of pain.

But i guess thats not very likely.

>>39002887
For 120$ i got 5 months of 250mg test e cruising gear, including asin.

I could have bhought more and now that i think about it i should have done it.

w/e

>>39002887
http://www.hobbyking.com/mobile/viewproduct.asp?idproduct=76539

Love me some rc plains.
Sadly I live in a city now and can't fly anywhere without driving an hour. Ahhhh the childhood in a small village has it's perks

>>39002918
as long as you dont hit a vessel with the syringe youre fine
working out the pinned muscle the day after the injection actually helps to alleviate PIP by increasing blood flow in that muscle

however if you bled from the injection site after injection or you actually aspirated blood you should give it rest for a day or 2

>>39002873

This >>39002918, there's no reason not to work out that muscle.

Also don't use hot water to heat the vial, just use body temperature water.

Also in terms of steps personally I always prepare my needle first before using alcohol swab on my body. So switch from drawing to pinning needle and don't take the tip off yet. After that I disinfect the body part I'm going to inject. Then take the cap of the sterile needle and inject, have a paper ready in case I'm bleeding.

Don't forget to inject slowly. I take like 1 min, also try to move the needle the least you can while injecting to reduce damage and PIP.

>>39001253
I like u mast

you complete me

>>39002670
>im sure i am high test

I was strong, hairy and had libido of the Gods.

And low T.

>>39002713
>>39002675

Yeah I know about finasteride and deca.

Would 200/600/600 eq be good? Strength gains, not size.

Actually contemplating 200/400 test/eq "cruise" with orals on/off every 6 weeks.

Do a bulk/cut thing where I bulk on msten/sdrol and cut on cruise.

>>39002999

Why not use hot water? It just helps heat it up faster.

I usually just put an amp in my back pocket for a few hours before if Im sitting down or just in my pocket if I don't.

But whenever I forget, into hot water it goes.

>>39002999
Yeah you are right, the order wasnt the best.

>inject slowly
i have no other choice than to do it slow, im using lmao27g needles.


Also how could i forget to aspirate.

Question: If i aspirate, and i see some rubbish red-ish fluid with lots of bubbles coming out (compared to clean red blood) can i still go ahead and pin?

I mean im going into my muscle, i expect something red-ish stuff to come out when i aspirate.

>>39003048

If it's warm enough 27g will even do olive oil.

Cold it takes 5+ minutes

>>39002448
I told you you could trust them. You got the brand i told you? It's crazy good.

>>39002009
>calls people dyel, yet shows no pictures
You see where this going?

>>39003032

Really? Thats weird.

I make sik gains and have a nice body (for normies), i am god tier libido and also have lots of facial hair.

If im still low test, then seriously why would i give a fuck. In that case it wouldnt even matter.

>>39003068
yeah both the test and asin are EP brand. (Not going to write full name here).

They have switched to another site. Its the same name but with .net instead of .nl

They said it was because authorities were trying to get their domain down or something.
Said it happens sometimes and we/i shouldnt be worried.

What exactly do you mean when you say its good?

>>39003064
ill just go ahead and put the vials between my ass cheeks

new

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>>39003041
You could use hot water but just don't make it too hot pressure might pop the vial.

>>39003076

Low test brings plenty of issues you won't feel until you're older.

>>39003215

Not until 400.

>>39003068

What brand?

Inb4 legit kigs trenbologna acetato.