is it okay for me to get starbucks?

no way it's under 200

>>38959612
its 180

are u that 300lb chick from the other day looking for low cal alternatives to the white hot choco? or is this drink really that good?

>>38959590

No, it's not okay.

And not just because you're so fucking fat (even though you are). Starbucks is just pure evil.

get some chai tea mix and some cashew milk and some sugar free coolwhip. stevia drops if u need it more sweet. or you could find sugar free vanilla syrup and add cashew/almond milk and sweet drops.

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that first sip of the day!
...
Mmmmmm!

>>38959685
im the same girl
im 183 not 300

IIFYM

>>38959694
can i do coconut milk or almond or even coconut almond mix, vanilla extract and sugar free white chocolate syrup? does anyone know how i can make it thicker since coconut milk doesn't have a lot of fat?

>>38959780
Just stop drinking shit with lots of chocolate and milk

Serously, go make some tea if you want a hot drink and stay away from starbucks

>>38959804
im drinking coconut milk and sugar free syrup? this isnt regular hot chocolate
i dont like tea
what does chai taste like?

>>38959694
That's the gayest shit I've read today, and I've been browsing /fit/ since 5 a.m.

>>38959820
holy shit just get the normal one but get a small and only get it once a week or so instead of every day. it's okay to indulge as long as you only do it occasionally instead of making it a habit. wean yourself off of these drinks instead of trying to work around the habit of drinking them.

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>>38959804
>mfw im doing IF keto 2 hour eating windows ultra low carb PSMF PPL Hypertrophy Strength hybrid routine supersetted with HIIT cardio and fasted LISS on a -500 calorie deficit just to get what is considered an average male body

>mfw this bitch can't fucking take a break from the starbucks for a few months to lose some pounds and then become god of the dating pool

i really fucking hate this planet sometimes, boys

>>38959897
i said i want to dial it back or make a low cal alt
i want to lose weight but not on a chicken and brown rice and oatmeal diet

>>38959590
Drink a plain latte with whole milk. Although Starbucks wont due because you'll actually be able to taste how shitty their coffee is.

>>38959931
If you'll stay under your target calories, go for it. Don't make it a habit, but don't make yourself miserable and deny yourself things you like for months on end.

Don't do it if it messes up your macros or puts you over your goal calories.

>>38959984
im aiming for 900 cals a day
150 for WHC, 100 for oatmeal, 400 for lunch/dinner, 200 for protein shake or 600 for high protein lunch/dinner.

>>38959874
were in a fucking vanilla hot chocolate thread.

>>38959820
chai tea has a very winter taste. tastes like vanilla and cinnamon and nutmeg. seep the tea bags then add any low calorie milk and then stevia. i drink chai tea in the mornings and its only 20 calories for me.

>>38959590
Just drink black espresso and quit being a ladyboy

>>38959590
all that this chocolate bullshit is going to do is give you a sugar spike and make you want more of it.
drink tea, or coffee, or something that can calm your shit down, don't feed your sugar addiction.

>>38959590
Drink water or tea

>>38961104
this
this is the reason why most people who drink coke zero instead of water never make

>>38959756
honey, get you some almond milk or skim milk, whichever you like better, cocoa powder, and whipped cream. heat the milk, put in the cocoa powder, and top with cream. It'll be less than 150 calories.

>>38961969
Scratch that, if you use almond milk, it'll be 50 cals, skim milk 106. add stevia if you need extra sweetness.

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>>38959590
>I need a ~200 kcal drink to help with the hunger
FUCKING WOMEN LOGIC..ARE YOU RETARDED..How about going and trying to eat 200 kcals worth of brocoli

BLACK COFFEE AND TEA ONLY YOU FAT SACK OF SHIT

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>>38959590
holy shit you came back with the same exact shit

>>38959590
while it is best to drink only water, you shouldn't be this much of an insecure faggot where you need to ask literal faggots on this taiwanese turkey-dancing board whether or not its "okay" for you to eat something.

we're not your fucking parents dude, do what you want but take good care of yourself. Read the fucking sticky while you're at it u lil bich

btw some useful info: depending on the location your starbucks may have whey protein and they typically don't charge for extra scoops so you can get a few scoops into your trash drink so at the very least there's some protein in it

if you have to ask clearly you know you shouldn't have it.

>>38959780
I work at Starbucks. Nothing we have with sugar is okay. No white mocha/mocha/frappucino/chai/ skinny or normal syrups are remotely okay for you. Get brewed tea/coffee or unsweetened iced tea/coffee. If you drink coffee get it black with either whole milk or cream. Nonfat is the devil. Our almond milk isn't real. Coconut is a trendy attempt at convincing white soccer moms that they secretly don't hate themselves. Tl;dr sugar dense drinks will not satiate your cravings.

>>38959590
If you are thinking about drinking this shit every day, just fucking stop. Go drink black coffee with a teaspoon of sugar, it's a 20 cal hot drink and will help with your hunger.

>>38960023

This is fucking insane.
Read the sticky

>>38962022
This

Hey girl I'm on an anorexic diet too and I went from hambeast to chubby in just a few months. I actually developed the mindset of anorexia and I'm browsing /fit/ because I'm tired of puking and starving myself.
>>38960023
I'd say keep this diet desu since youre not that fat, do this diet for 4 more weeks and then you basically lose almost 10 kilograms (but exercise a lot and eat clean!!!) after 4 weeks you can have a starbucks drink as a cheat but dont worry by then you also developed an eating disorder and its much easier to control yourself and keep it at that.

(This is not bait I need help My stomach is destroyed from puking)

>>38962495
:( do you want to talk or something? im a girl too if that help, also chubby and losing 5"5 and 170

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>>38959590
Undisciplined fat fuck I bet you still live with your parents. You're never going to make it if you can't give up nutrient-less empty calories on a cut. I saw your thread yesterday with "muh white chocolate." Kill yourself. You will be fat forever unless you change your mentality, landwhale.

>>38962495
>>38962609

Both of you are retarded or trolling.

Out of my /fit/

>>38960853
that's disgusting. i want WHC.

>>38959693

This. It's never okay to get Starbucks. Plus, the coffee is so shit.

>>38962417
The sticky doesn't have anything useful. It's just one link.

>>38962609
idiot

Just drink fucking coffee. It's proven to blend your hunger and has zero calories

>>38959756
Holy shit. How tall?

>>38959756
>183 lbs
>girl

maybe consider a nice tall glass of water instead, fattie.

>>38964222
5'4.5"

>>38959685
YO ITS HER IM SO GLAD SOMEONE REMEMBERS

>>38959897
Biggest meme paragraph I have ever read.

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>>38964228
>5'4
>183

HOLY SHIT LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>38962354
Fucking this. Im doing IF while on DNP and drink plain black coffee. If you are such a hambeast you need sugar then just add a bit.

>>38964228
HOLY FUCK! Are you trigglypuff?

>>38964228
holy shit girl get the fuck away from starbucks

>>38964246
should i get on dnp when the weather is like 50 degrees? its almost there

girls risk cataracts tho

>>38960023
>>38962417

Why is that insane? I drop 20-25lbs in under a month doing that while on dnp.

>2 eggs
>2 apples
>3 shakes, 100g blueberries, 25g brotein, lots of ice.
>300g veggies
>300g steak

180/50/15 pcf.

Slightly over 900, closer to 1000. But my BMR is +- 4500 on dnp.

Having a tiny hot chocolate isn't going to stave off your hunger you idiot

All grills who post to this sub are so short

>tfw 5'9 with man hands

>>38964274
Its still 80 degrees where I am and run 500 mg. But Im not advocating dnp because its truly fucking horrible. Almost bedridden all the time.

>>38964283
did you burn to death? how do i calculate my bmr on dnp?

>>38964228

>5'4.5
>183

Fucks sake, 120+ on 5'9 and over is already too much unless girls are athletic. You've got almost half your weight to lose.

I thought you were 6'0 or something.

>>38964299
Just eat at 500 below maintenance

>>38964299

Old bmr and every 100mg is +- 9-11% more once it has built up.

I can run 1g+ for a short while before it drives me crazy. I plan to do that next week while only drinking my shakes. That's 600 kcal a day while my BMR should be over 5000.

>tfw no bmr over 9000.

>>38964301
uh no, my goal is 130. who wants to be 90 pounds?

>>38959590
these calories are wasted.
drink black coffee, it has virtually no calories. save the rest for food. fight your sugar addiction, it gets better after a month

>>38964319
is there a chart somewherethat shows how much 250 mg builds up to? i remember coming across that before i think

>>38964303

On dnp psmf 1000 kcal deficit on your bmr before dnp is good.

500 is a meme.

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>>38964321

You'll still be fat at 130.

Bmi of 17.5-18 unless you're athletic is good for women. That's +- 105lbs for you, not 130.

>>38964348
i dont want to be skinny
i want to be thicc and then start lifting at maintenance so i can body recomp
ill be skinny fat af

>>38964283
whats dnp does it fuck with your skin/make you aged if not i need some of this shit?

>>38959590
If you cut that drink out and followed you diet for 6 months you would lose approximately 10lbs?
200 cals in drink × 180 days = 36000
Divide that by how many calories in a pound of bodyfat, 3500 = 10.2 lbs. Thats just a rough estimate.

>>38964368
Your gonna fuck up your eyesight
Your cum will also be yellow

>>38964334
Im just saying what I do.

>>38964375
girl so i dont care about the cum part. i also already have glasses

>>38964331

Roidcalc might work. Just use the halflife of dnp instead of steroids. I use it for lots of things.

I had an xlx file for everything but.. No idea where I saved it.

Note, 250 would lead to +- 25% increase in bmr after around 5 days. I think it's 4 days before it's pretty much at it's peak.

I'll dose 1g day 1. 1g day 2. 1g day 3 and then adjust where needed 600-800 for 3 weeks.

I was Seriously injured 2 years ago. Jumped back into lifting 6 weeks back but overbulked.

And even then i'm not as heavy as this girl and i'm 6'1. Goal is 155-160 by the end of the month.

I was 165 and squatted 440 at that weight, no jokes about lanky and skinny pls.

>>38964381
Cataracts arent fixed by glasses. But cataracts are rare.

>>38964381
Dnp can kill you very easily. You need to know what your doing. But go ahead and take it. I'll help you; go on /fraud/ and ask a trip where you can purchase dnp

>everyibe complaining about how shit Starbucks coffee is

Is it that bad in america? I'm German and I always get a huge Cafe Americano and I think its pretty nice (especially because it's pretty cheap compared to regular cafés here)

>>38964355

>thicc

Other word for fat.

Get skinny first, then get stronger. Don't start getting fit while you're still fat. That's hard enough for men already, nearly impossible for women.

Skinnyfat means fat with no muscle, that's what you'll be at 130. Get to 100-105 and you'll be skinny, go from there.

And for women, 1lbs a month of weight gain is too fast if you want to stay lean.


>>38964368

Dnp is a metabolic poison. It disrupts certain pathways making your body less efficient.

You'll be hot, lethargic and your eyes might go yellow while on it. It's not jaundice btw.

You will also damage myelin, which protects your nerves from damage but myelin repairs itself.

There's also a risk of getting cataracts. Nearly unheard of in men, women it's 1 in 10 or so.

The ld50 is also fairly low. Overdose and you'll be cooked alive. Your bodytemp can get too high.

But, endure that for 2-3 weeks with a rigorous diet and you will have had 2-3 months worth of cutting. Or in my case 4-5.

I'm running a 3500 kcal deficit. That's 1lbs/day.

Dnp also targets fat cells specifically. Sparing muscle.

>>38964402

Im here now, people can find my email in the /fraud/ archive for dnp related questions. Sourcetalk isn't allowed.

>>38964430
As a skinny fat guy I should be bulking correct?

>>38964355
basically impossible to be thicc if your fat doesn't sit in the right places

>>38964430
i dont want to be lean though. under 110 on a girl 5'4" or 5'5" looks sick to me. i want to be at like 25% bf. i want a curvy look and yeah you can lower bf and lift at the same time.

>>38964414

The coffee is mediocre, but the complaints are about their overpriced 90% sugar 10% coffee drinks.

I find their coffee has too much caffeine with little taste.

But I brew my own with 4 or 5 different kind of beans. My go to is Rombouts.

Belgian company, they're the suppliers for the Royals in Belgium. Doesn't mean too much, but they've been around for over 100 years.

Lavazza is nice but overpriced. Same goes for most big brands.

>>38964459
its mostly in my ass n legs

>>38964430
honestly that sounds fucking horrifying. is it available anywhere?
im seriously on the fence leaning towards trying. just scared about that cataracts thing

>>38964507
anywhere as in everywhere sorry

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>>38959931
Just eat less you daft cunt.

You can eat whatever the fuck you like if you don't care about health, only weightloss.

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>>38964468
>110 on a girl 5'4" or 5'5" looks sick to me. i want to be at like 25% bf. i want a curvy look and yeah you can lower bf and lift at the same time.

You can lift but you won't gain any muscle.

25% is still fat. Curvy is a matter of genetics and is another euphemism for fat.

Just cut, hard, and don't stop until you're statisfied. You have no idea if you're going to look sickly at 100 or 90 or 110.

I'm 6'0-6'1. I didnt look sickly at 145. Nor at 150 or 160 or 180.

My ex looked amazing at 115, and she's 5'9-5'10.

One of my best female friends is 5'3, and she's strong. Yet only weighs 90lbs tops. courtesy of running 10km 4x a week.

The women that lift and keep some outline of abs are the ones that look healthiest.

Men should stay around 8-12%, women around 5% higher. You're venturing into fat at 20 for men or 25 for women.

>>38964507

It's grey area. But you can't buy it in regular shops, no.

You're allowed to buy it, but not for consumption.

It's amazing and terrifying. But I can do 4 months of slow, agonizing cutting in a month.

Lifting hard and heavy on a cut is useless. You're staving off muscle loss. Not gaining much if any muscle.

That, and the difference after a month... I go from 20% fat to 9% in 3 weeks.

Cocoonmode, go through hell, people will not believe what you did.

Degeneratelabs @ googlymail desu.

I don't sell anything, I wanted the address.

>>38959590

How can people afford to get fat off of starbucks? Shits expensive yo.

>>38964548
but 5'5" or whatever and 130 is healthy bmi
i have genetics for curvy and i dont like the lean look for me
this girl looks nice to me
idk how tall she is but she looks average and is nearly 160 during her bulk
https://www.instagram.com/p/BCS9YQ6gWqj/
so its not about having low numbers really
lowest bf i want is like 23%. where's the science that 18% is best for women?

>>38959590
>>38959756

What's wrong with black coffee?

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>>38964665
>curvy genetics

You're either the best troll I've seen on here or a literal walking meme. Just take the DNP and cook to death you lazy fat pig.
>muh 900 cal cut
>aiming for 25% bf
>muh wanna be thicc

You're obese and have no idea what your body looks like under all the shit you've accumulated. Either do a proper cut, not this 900 cal Starbucks and DNP retardation, or fuck off.
Personally I hope you do the DNP so I can read a thread in a few weeks about some lazy fatty who is dying an agonizing death because they were too lazy to do things the right way.

Post your curvy dumpster fire of a body you thicc train wreck.

Pic unrelated

>>38964665
>i have genetics for curvy

haha no. and muscle is a shitton more dense than fat. the chick you linked isn't just fat, she's jacked as fuck which is why her low b/f pic is already 132

>>38964750
yes i do. most of my weight is in my lower body

how is dnp not a proper cut?
anyway that girl in her BULK is my goal so what bf is she? someone estimate

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>>38964665

That girl has a bf under your 25% while having a lot of muscle. You won't get close to that anytime soon.

If you want to look like that you start skinny. That's the only way to do a real bulk.

Also, that girl is using 3847253 filters to make herself look decent. Take that away and she's just another chubby girl to most.

The most commonly used method to measure bodyfat is the JP method, they also did research for the optimal levels by sex and age.

By memory? 8-9% to 12-13% for men. 17-19.5 for women.

But these are different depending on age. Im going by late teens to mid twenties here.

You will be cutting for over a year. Possibly even longer. 1lbs a week is not sustainable at your height. 0.5lbs will not be sustainable at your height once you get close.

This is 150 at 5'8. Add 5lbs and she loses her definition. She started as a skinny cheerleader, she's in the US olympic weightlifting team now.

You can only cut, then bulk. Everything else is random. You're a girl, so it will take years before you should worry about all of this.

Get thin, then bulk. It gives you an easier way to check progress and i'll let others look it up but our bodies are most efficient at bulking up at certain % as well.

You're quite fucked anyway, the fat cells will never disappear. And fatcells do still play a role even when they're empty. They slow down progress, though that's worse in men.

>>38964767
yeah sure. i've seen anorexics at my height and lower weight lose lots of weight in a month
you're not helpful
and stop posting tall people

>>38964764

Bmi of 21 with a bf of 20%.

Going off of girls a friend of mine helped.

It means your pic is around 170 tall, seems about right. Since she's from northern Europe.

Also

>160lbs
>squatting 230lbs

She's weak.

>>38964804
Post your body fatty

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>>38964804
water weight, glycogen stores etc etc

>>38964836
oh well
im losing 50 pounds in 3 months and ill start lifting at maintenance from there

my post will have white hot chocolate in it
ill prove to you cunts that its possible

>>38964855
do it, you absolute faggot

godspeed

>>38964855
Sure you will

>>38964804

Your example is 170cm tall. This girl is 170cm tall.

Dropping fat =/= losing weight. Keep that in mind.

You need to let go of the "I have x genetics" bullshit and just cut. Cut until you can start seeing the outline of your stomach.

THAT'S the point where you can start worrying about othet things. That's around 15% in women with little muscle and up to 25% in women with ridiculously strong cores. Your example has a decent core, so around 20%.

Why would you cut to 15%? So you have time to bulk. Once you lose the fat it'll take years for the loose skin to adjust itself. Keeping your fat low helps that process.

That and gh boosters like mk677 as well as certain skin products.

Get used to it and stop being an idiot about it. Even if you stop eating you won't lose that weight before january.

Prove me wrong though.

Pic + timestamp now and in january.

January 2017, because 2018 is doable.

>>38964888
You never answered me. Cut or bulk; skinny fat male

>>38964855

>50lbs
>3 months

I really hope you realize even on dnp, that at your height this is a stretch?

You'd need 800mg dnp a day. That would be enough to kill you. Definitely too high to run that long without permanent damage.

Let's not forget you can actually go blind if you fuck up.

Keep a Note in your wallet saying you're on dnp/dinitrophenol. The usual treatment for the symptoms you'll end up having will kill you. They NEED to know you're on dnp if you end up passing out.

Yes. It's that dangerous.

>>38964888
Kill yourself now, traitor! You've allowed the foul creature to live!

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>>38964917

I tried to kill myself with dnp.

It's not something anyone should want another to go through.

It's like you're burning. But not quite. With a headache similar to the worst hangover you've ever had. You're dehydrated but it's impossible to drink enough.

Meanwhile you can hardly walk or breathe, that's not a joke. I was out of breath just lieing still. I was gasping for air for hours. And then I passed out I think.

As much as OP is an idiot that won't listen. Stupidity alone doesn't warrant a death like that.

More mattie, a true example for fitgirls.

She has a C&J over that PT's squat. I mean, *drool*

>>38964888
yeah ill prove you wrong
i dont have a full body mirror so i cant take a pic though

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>>38965126

>i'll prove you wrong
>No proof

Hmmmmmm.

Unless you run 1g of dnp your bmr won't be high enough to drop 1lbs a day. And 1g of dnp would kill you.

It's basic math really. You probably have around 90lbs of lbm. So you've got over 50% fat. Use that to calculate your TDEE and even with lifting you won't break 2000kcal.

600mg of dnp, and even that's pushing it for women, wil make your deficit +- 2500. Besr case scenario.

And that's a whooping 4lbs/week. Best case, on dangerous amounts of drugs while im overestimating your TDEE and willpower.

I've been doing this for a long time. Adjust your expectations or you'll give up.

And get mk677 and start running 20mg every day. It will help with loose skin.

>>38965184
mk677
what is that?

i was dying on 250 mg of dnp in the summer so i quit. if the temperature drops to 40 or even below freezing early this year, i'll run it. i just can't burn up.

why are anorexics losing 20 pounds a month then? why do i have to nearly die to lose 15 pounds? i could do a vlcd with my adderall

>>38964888
wow friend are you still around? i was the one asking about dnp.
i wish these kinda methods were more acceptable desu so you could go somewhere and be monitored for a while. im so nervous to try it but i really want to

>>38965207

I posted my email. It's my day off, trying to sleep but fuck that, apparently.

It's arms+legs for me tonight but im cutting and on gear so it's more because I like it.

Email me for dnp advice, it's really not that dangerous unless you're retarded.

Start with 200mg, go from there. Halflife is 36 hours so don't go "I don't feel much" after 2 days of 200mg. Or 400. If you're fine after 5 days of 400, try 600 etc..

1g a day is for retards like me who have a suicidal streak.

>>38965254
oh thank you im sorry i didnt notice that! ill email you in a bit!

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>>38959590
IIFYM

>>38965271
venti is huge
i could never get anything bigger than a tall

>>38965281
I love the venti. Can't help it.

The point is, if I can fit a venti mocha into my macros on a 1,600 cut, OP can handle a tall. She's got 20 lbs on me anyway.

>>38959931
you want to do something difficult without it being difficult. either take it seriously or give up.

>>38965184
i ran 1g of dnp for three days. Mind you I was 6'2" 270.

okay anyone please answer
why do you think fat/skinny fat noobs can't recomp?
i read this article yesterday
http://bayesianbodybuilding.com/gain-muscle-and-lose-fat-at-the-same-time/

>>38965271

Iifym will work. But that abomination will not fit in a 900 kcal cutting diet.

100/50/20 is what she should aim for.

I hit around 150/50/20 now.

IF YOU ARE A FATTY YOU SHOULD BE DRINKING NOTHING BUT WATER you fatties whine so much about how hard it is and then cave at the first exercise of discipline. Pls don't be LONDON fat people are a burden on the NHS and a burden on the taxpayer and they wonder why no one joins them in pitying them

>>38965316
If she weighs 183 lbs, cutting to 900 cal would be asinine.

>>38965310

It's possible. For a short time. And it's inefficient vs cutting/bulking.

It also depends on timing meals and scheduling everything around your workouts.

Morning cardio, burn fat. Keep fasting. Keep fasting. Fasted workout + cardio. Then a shake + food to repair. Then slow protein and no sugar at all until morning.

You'll spend a few hours repairing and gaining a few grams of muscle that you will likely lose because not everything can be done perfectly.

Unless steroids or genetic freak.

>>38965302

Op wants to cut 50lbs before january.

>>38965308

I ran that for 7 days. After running 600mg for a week. And then 800 for a while longer.

Op is 5'4, and a girl. Men have a higher tolerance as it is. 1g could actually kill her.

>>38965338

Im 6'0-6'1 and 180. Cutting on 800-1000.

My biggest drop was 230lbs to 165 in 4.5 months, no drugs. I did another 30lbs cut after a bulk later. Ended up being a lean 155 then.

She's 5'4, she's 50% fat or more. It's doable.

>>38965353
okay fine
but is 50 pounds really not doable in a couple of months?
how do i make sure im losing actual fat and not muscle?

someone help anyone
how do i know if im losing water? i want to be thicc srs
if i diet from oct 15 to feb 15, i cant lose up to 50?

also, is mk677 an underground thing like dnp? where do i buy it? is it going to make me lose my boobs?

>>38959590
>short white hot chocolate with coconut milk? im def sure its under 200 calories? i need a hot drink to help with hunger
>but im a fatty srs
How about you boil some water you fatass

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>getting anything else other than black coffee or tea

Disgusting tbqh

>>38965399
>its 180

lmao OP is a fat piece of shit

>>38965405
that's not what i drink
http://www.starbucks.com/menu/drinks/chocolate/white-hot-chocolate#size=155310&milk=1306&whip=NA

>>38965421
shut up fatty, go back to lulmbr or lose weight. Nobody likes fat girls.

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>>38965377

Start dieting for a month, anything you lose after that is likely permanent. Just keep going until you're done, that's all there is to it.

And no, 50lbs of fat loss in 90 days is not doable unless your bmr is over 3500.

Starving yourself won't even cause weight loss like that.

And again, you cannot know what you're going to look like. Right now you know what your body is like when you're fat. It can change immensely when you lower bodyfat.

The girl you posted has weird genetics as well, I'm not kidding. She's really weak for her size.

Lift. Cut. Never stop until you see abs. Once you do, go ahead and come back.

But even on dnp, t3, clen, gh and everything else I can think of looking even remotely fit will take over a year. Without drugs this will take 2-3 years. Mostly because you'll spend almost a year of it cutting. If not more.

You'll look significantly better. But you won't look like an instagram fitgirl in a year.

>>38965385

Boobs are genetic. If you're going to lose them you'll lose them. And Yeah. Grey area stuff.

>>38965442
im not talking about looking like an ig fitness girl right now, i just want to know how long it will take to lose 50 pounds
that's a little over 4 pounds a week

omg where do i find the gh thing?

>>38965377
You are already complaining that you cant have 'muh hot chocolate' so no, you aren't going to lose 50 poundsby feb. you clearly lack the determination and will power

>>38964228
then what the fuck are you doing in starbucks lmao

>>38965480
im determined

>>38965459
Heres a summary of what we've all been tellig you.

Lose weight right now, then worry about how you look later.

>>38965509
okay but im asking about if its possible to lose 4 pounds a month

>>38965547
also
is this a good meal
http://www.wellplated.com/garlic-shrimp-pasta/

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>>38965459

See

>>38965509

>>38965466

GH is +- 100$ a week. And it'll takes months to build up.

Mk677? Google.

>>38965480

My goal is +- 20kg of fat loss and 5-6kg gained by april. But i'm not sure I can pull that off. And I'm on gear.

Just another 30kg on bench, 50 on squat and 40 to weighted pullups will do for me.

My goal is 75kg bodyweight. squatting 250, benching 140, pressing 90 and doing weighted pullups with 65kg around my waist. 5 reps on those by february. 2018.

Im going into oly lifting after that.

>Mattie fucking Rogers

Goddamnit she's so.. Odd at times.

>>38965553

>pasta
>900kcal a day

No.

>>38965547

Yes, but not indefinitely. We can't tell you, nobody can.

>>38965547
Are you actually retarded? It's possible to lose 4 pounds a week if you eat right, just stop making excuses. And no shitty food like starbuck, etc. Cravings arent something you need to satisfy.

>>38965580
sorry i meant 4 pounds a week

>>38965571

>$100 a week
>jobless college student
lol
well i guess i can just deal with the skin and do the stupid tips like keeping hydrated

i can only afford dnp

>>38965580

That's not possible for a 5'4 girl.

You realize that her bmr is under 2000 right?

>>38965596

Not possible. You're a girl, short, have little to no muscle and therefore your bmr is too low.

If you were fit, maybe. But you can't go running 2-3 hours a day every day to create the deficit.

>>38965578
then can i use a tablespoon of oil to make the shrimp and then eat brocolli which i find disgusting?
i really hate brown rice and chicken

>>38965620
Oops, didnt know she was 5'4.

>>38965596
Op you must be a really fat as fatass, ew. Go do some cardio.

>>38965625
OP with her childish palate, pls go

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this is the pasta i wanted
130 cals a serving

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>>38965606

Mk677 helps, it's +- 100$ for 3 months.

I run gw501516, mk677 and dnp. Modafinil and amphetamines for energy.

And testosterone to stave off muscle loss.

Testosterone is a big no for women. Amphetamines are drugs. Gw501516 can cause cancer. Dnp might kill you at my dosage.

I have a goal in mind, strength goals at a certain bodyweight. Just one of those is ridiculous. The mirror works better.

>>38965647
I really don't understand how that ties into any part of this thread but thanks for sharing

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>>38965625

Macros.

There's a shitton of vegetables out there, you're not limited to broccoli.

Eat 130g protein. 50g carbs. 20g fats.

>>38965651
i can only run dnp then and maybe the mk677 but i need to read about it
im getting adderall legally too

anyway unrelated but dont you think you're taking too much (risky) stuff

i thought you were female?

>>38964211
Poor attempt at troll

>>38965668
i was asking if i could eat it idiot
>>38965553 referring to this

>>38965672
130g is too much protein
can i up the carbs and lower the protein to like 100?

>>38965682

>his Royal Highness Sir
>female

Also yes. But suicidal. I've lived through worse.

>>38965699

130 is perfect, but 100/100/15 is fine as well. Protein fills you up more, that's all.

>>38959590
Calories doesn't fuckign matter if it's not a balanced good meal. This is just a sugar bomb more hazardous to human health than a pound of processed bacon.
Drink green tea then

>>38965774
well i didn't get why a male would be giving a girl advice
no offense but maybe you should some of the stuff and go to a doctor

anyway i eat high carb right now so its impossible to go from not eating a lot of protein to eating 130 grams when i dont even like chicken that much
why is 130 perfect?

what about 90/90/20?
i like fish and shrimp so fat cant be low

wdyt about chipotle? just meat, beans, lettuce, veggies that i find gross and 1/2 guac? like 450 cals max

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>>38965353

>>38965774
Bro please give up on this fatty >>38965852 is clearly taking your for a ride
You seem super cool and having this dense motherfucker keep making excuses and shooting down your advice can't be good for you
Looking out for a fellow suicidal bro
Stay safe bro

>>38965877
bitch i am asking questions bc i find what he's saying useful
go away

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>there are cucks on this board right now with coffee dependencies

>>38965852

>no offense but maybe you should

None taken, and no. I don't. I get blood checked every 3 months and i've got a genetic condition which means I likely won't make it to 50. So I really don't need to care much.

A psmf diet is the best for fast fat loss. Especially on dnp. Ideally that means 200/0/10 for you.

Fish can be low in fat.

Im giving advice because I've helped out at least a dozen women hit a 250lbs squat at a bw of 140 at my rowing club. Some of them were 160lbs before they started, others barely weighed 110.

Why 140lbs?

>weight classes

Women it's 130-135. Men it's 165. I was the strongest in my weight class before my accident. 4th strongest at my club, the others all outweighed me by 20kg and were over 6'5. They rowed heavy, I rowed light.

And im a walking pharmacy.

Stay under 1000 kcal and eat less sugar. Protein is not important yet. But eventually you'll need it to spare muscle. Carbs become useless at the end.

>>38959590
>I need a hot drink to help with hunger

You don't NEED it

you could just drink black coffee, drink coffee with milk (50 calories) or eat an apple (50 calories)

This is why you're fat. Stop it. You don't need to go hungry, just eat the right things and cut out the shit.

>>38965877

It's not so much suicidal as actually knowing I'll die young, taking stupid risks and being bored whenever I don't.

I might accidentally OD on something or develop cancer or get a heartattack. But i'm not jumping in front of a train suicidal. I'd rather go skiing/boarding and be a reckless idiot. It makes for funny vids.

Me at 6'0-6'1, 160lbs. I look tiny, I squatted 440. This was probably my peak.

2 months later, hospitalized, lost 25lbs while in a coma. Whatchugon' do. 2 years later, august this year, started lifting again.

Already benching 220 and squatting 330.

>dat muscle memory

>>38965937
that's sad
well i appreciate you replying
look into a psychiatrist

i will struggle to eat a lot of protein. i probably dont eat up to 50g a day now and im slightly anemic according to my doctor
i'll try to get up to 100g but im not sure how other than protein powder
carbs are easy
going over on fat might be a problem

i swear im going to lose 50 pounds in 4 months max
im white chocolate girl. i'll post pics in February of before and after

>All these people giving a namefag advice

What the fuck? This cunt is lapping it up and telling his boring victim complex life story. Fuck off you attention seeking faggot and man up rather than seeking a hug box.

>>38966002
wtf i think you scared the guy away
you idiot

Started at 183.7, 5" shorter than you at 4'11", and lost about 60 lbs within a year (121 lbs now). You do not have the discipline to lose the weight, period. When I first started I kept trying to keep the shitty food I loved by finding the healthy alternative. Reality is, the healthy alternative to that shit food is supposed to be the treat you give yourself every once in a while, not replacements for the shit food of your main diet. Go back to Tumblr, you're wasting your time pretending to actually try. You don't want to change, if you did you'd be willing to sacrifice.

anyone can answer. do you think a chicken and brown rice diet that i may have a hard time following vs a low cal alts of my fav foods are better? ppl have said i need to develop a palate for healthy food, but i really might throw up eating brocolli

im not that young (19) but i eat more kiddie foods

>>38966376
you're fat because Starbucks and noodles are your fave foods hope that helps

>>38966372
im not on tumblr, why does everyone say that
you also said you started off bad so why are you assuming i cant do it
go away

>>38966387
no because i dont know portion control and eat calorie dense food
i only started drinking starbucks like 3 months ago and barely eat pasta

>>38966372

Nice. Still cutting? Because that is serious dedication. At your height that's nearly impossible to do.

I might lose 30lbs this month. But I cheat.

>4'11

Une petite hnng.

>>38966403
protip: people do not intrinsically know portion control with calorie dense, sugary foods

if you wanna live a healthy lifestyle without counting it's easier to consume nutritious foods that provide satiety

>>38966427
okay the problem is that i cant find foods i like that are "nutritious" and not calorie dense
i don't eat vegetables right now and i barely eat fruit
im anemic
i really eat like a kid
i dont want to get too old because it gets harder to lose weight with age but im picky

>>38966403
You are why nobody likes fat people. You are stupid, lazy, spoiled, and have no self control. Throughout this entire thread you've been rude to people who've offered you advice for free, but because it isn't what you want to hear you ignored or derided it. You will never lose 50 lbs, and I know this because you have no discipline or patience. I'm glad you're fat. You deserve to be fat. Enjoy the fact that the only people who will ever love you or be attracted to you are other cases of genetic trash, and most will only fuck you because they know they can't do better, not because they want to. I hope you die young, the less people in the world like you the better.

Go get your Starbucks piggy, it doesn't matter anyway.

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>>38966396

The 1lbs/week she did for a year is almost impossible. You keep telling yourself you can do 4x as much. And that everyone else is wrong.

That + curvy + thicc is all tumblrspeak for speshul snowflake.

You're looking for shortcuts that aren't there. She figured that out last year, and you keep telling us there are and that it is possible and etc...

She would have told herself she was being an idiot as well if she could.

>>38966452
acquire tastes. you can't expect to live the rest of your life eating like a retarded woman child, it's embarrassing

>>38966454
lol thanks

i have read all the advice. i didnt ignore anything.

basically i have to go on a chicken and oatmeal diet and drink espresso with stevia in the morning

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green tea op jesus man get ahold of yourself

>>38966464
no, drink espresso without stevia

you have a literal sugar addiction

>>38966462
im not that old
im 19
>>38966455
4 pounds a week is possible
idc
my calories are low and im gonna buy dnp and i have my adhd appetite suppressant and im gonna drink coffee and eat chicken and oatmeal

>>38966481
id rather drink water. i cant drink coffee. i'll buy caffeine pills instead.

>>38959590
If you post delicious shit like that in my board, we are gonna have a problem.

>>38966452

Then eat what you don't like. Food is fuel.

Losing weight is easy. And fuck it, it's 4PM. Im going to sleep and then lift.

I've got a goddamned appointment in Luxembourg tomorrow and that's a 5+ hour drive.

>>38966491

NOT. POSSIBLE. For you.

>>38966464

>oatmeal
>chicken

Hasnt read a single post.

>>38966491
>I'm gonna buy DNP

I hope you die

>>38966519
YAH I HAVE READ
WHAT DO I EAT THEN?
i will literally prove you wrong

watch when February comes around. my name is white chocolate girl, i'll post here with my before and after

why does this bitch hate chicken and oatmeal so much

>>38966530
i know how to take it. im also only running 250 per day

couldnt take the heat in the summer so im running it in the winter
bitch

omg i cant eat oatmeal or yogurt without it being sweet
what do i eat for breakfast then?

>>38966554
>couldn't take the heat

Or eating healthy, controlling portions, not drinking Starbucks, or not being retarded.

If you want to prove us wrong post time stamp pic now and in February. Bet you won't though.

>>38966574
>what do I eat for breakfast then?

You? Nothing.

>>38966616
i cant post one now and im pretty sure this thread wont last until i can post one like later today or tomorrow

>>38966542

You're wrong. And you're not posting yourself with something identifiable now. Why bother in 3 months when you've lost maybe 10lbs.

>>38966551

I hate oatmeal and rice. Chicken is ok in wraps. Steak is where it's at.

>>38966574

>breakfast

You don't eat breakfast. Or lunch. Or dinner. You eat your calories somewhere and that's it.

>>38966616

50lbs in 3 months is pushing it. I might do a before after from this month though, but fraud knows me and a few trips have seen me.

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>>38966631

Me? Also nothing.

I don't eat until after I went to the gym or did some kind of activity.

>>38966634
>excuses

That's two things you're full of

>>38966639
what do you mean by somewhere?

i cant post a pic right now because im not gonna be home until later but i might just make a random thread called 50 pounds in 3-4 months and post it there idk

>>38966666

Satan confirmed for fat girl

am i supposed to only eat vegetables and plain oatmeal and chicken? ill cry every time i have to eat

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>>38966684
>mfw thinking of you hurting

>>38966684
Well baited.

>>38959780
>white people ordering food

Best fph/fps thread ever

>>38966700
if anything ill be the one in the kitchen

>>38959897
Just be greatful she actually believes one can lose weight by reducing calories.

>sweet yogurt

Wot? I also use some honey to sweeten up my oatmeal, but that's the only sweetener I use. Everything else is without sugar.

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>>38964855

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>>38966735
this

desu i'm like 90% certain opie is a troll but.. you never know with shit like this

I really hate fat people like this dumb cunt. take 800mg dnp and cease to breath big girl

Jesus Christ, just run an EC stack and eat 1k calories a day and you will lose 2 pounds a week, it's that easy. A bowl of cereal is 350, an apple is 100, find one more thing

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>>38966574
yogurt already is sweet without shit in it

what the fuck do you think lactose is

>>38967058
i mean additional sugar
>>38966762
peach greek yogurt


ppl im being dead serious
what should i eat
people are saying not to add stevia which is a healthy sweetener so im not supposed to eat anything sweet?

can shrimp be my main meat?
can i eat low cal chipotle once in a while?
pasta once in a while?
is milk a yes or no? coconut milk

what about a small breakfast and a large dinner? i have school throughout the day so yeah. or snack in the middle of a break in the day or a big dinner

>>38967109
Do you literally lack the capacity to do any research on your own?

>leddit but https://www.reddit.com/r/loseit/wiki/quick_start_guide

>>38967131
i was just going to make low cal alternatives of the food i eat but people said that was a bad idea and im not gonna make it, etc

it's calories in calories out
but i guess chicken and brown rice is superior?

>>38967109
Count your calories and keep your macros in check with MyFitnessPal. Answer your own questions. We aren't your personal trainers.

>>38967109
IIFYM

and for chrissake don't do 900 a day. That's a one-way ticket to relapsing

is this bitch STILL HERE? its been literal HOURS

>>38967175
There's no way her claims of doing 900 a day is accurate based on the other information she's provided.

>>38967175
im doing 900, idc

>>38967154
Chicken and brown rice is superior to white girl drinks and pasta, yes.

>>38967192
but even when the pasta has a lot of fiber and is 130 cals a serving?

>>38967190
you're already failing at fitting your low-fat sugar-free white chocolate abomination of a starbucks beverage into 900 cals. Run 1200, be a little bit more patient, and maintain your sanity

cutting is a patience game more than anything

>>38966684
Op, let me redpill you in something, you can live everyday perfectly healthily if you drink starbucks whc, but the thing is you ONLY have to drink Whc. See, lets say an healthy hot chocolate is 300cal, right? So drink that 3times a day and you will get 900cal perday. Dont worry about nutrients, you can easily fill those up with nutrient pills. If low on protein, there always are protein powder to help you out.

Dont believe what these health nuts say to you, senpai. I lost 40lbs from 247lbs this way, but only with mocha latte.

I believe in you, op. I know you can pull off the thicc girl look ;))))

>>38967235
>this advice isn't falling on deaf ears

She obviously wants the 'secret' to easy and quick weight loss and will accept no other answer.

>>38959756
I'm 172lbs and 1.8m, I hope you're an amazon.

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>>38967260
> mfw I don't know that ONE WEIRD REASON dietitians HATE HER

you're right anon. makes me sad to see our fat hate prejudices validated

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>>38964228
You need more than low cal starbucks drinks and you know it. Read the sticky and browse FHS threads, they're great to keep you in line.

>>38964348
>underweight BMI is good for women
No it isn't, stop saying bullshit.

>>38967261
Mirrin. Tricep routine?

>>38967299
k


anyway
im still doing 900 cals but i need to go grocery shopping and my before and after will be here in mid february 2017
white chocolate girl

>>38967376
Are you planning on doing 900 or are you doing 900 currently? What's your TDEE

>>38967401
im going to
i havent started yet

my tdee is 1927

>>38967429
Op, why do you ignore me? :((
You do know that you can eat whatever food you want, right? These guys just are NO FUN crowd.
http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.professor/
Just read this and you will be fine;)
Stuff your face with oreos and twinkies, get milkshake if you want!
You will lose weight, I promise ;)

>>38967226
Shut up and listen. You ask questions, someone gives you a easy, solid answer, and its "b-but x?" or "but x says y is fine so why cant i just z x?"

>>38967489
kek, nice advice

>>38967489
yeah, i know. people lose weight on ice cream diets. i post on an eating disorder website at times

Absolute disgusting normie logic, it makes me wish that I could be their parents and beat the shit out of them before they grow into this derangement of thought.

Why do people get these fat sugary drinks. They dont give you the adequate boost of energy a plain coffee gives you nor the slow release of energy healthy food gives you. You are literally throwing away money to have your tastebuds entertained for 10 min

>>38966666
Witnessed

>>38967596
lol you're a wannarexic

fuck off and die pig

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>>38966666
SATAN HAS SPOKEN, AND SENT US THE DEMON OF SLOTH AND GLUTTONY TO PUNISH OUR WAYS.

REVEAL YOUR FORM AT ONCE, FOUL BEAST

Fucking fat women "omg I drank this coca cola zero now I can eat what I want!"
Fucking lazy land whales you deserve to be fat.

>>38964855
>Maintaining a 1750 calorie deficit for 3 months, even with a reducing bmr, while still drinking sugary bullshit

>>38968322
Don't forget occasionally eating Chipotle, not liking chicken or brown rice, and needing sweet foods with every meal.

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My name is white chocolate girl and im gonna get thicc by Feb with my 50 pound loss you better beleive it just wait for my after pic

Why use non-dairy milk? it has no protein and often a shit ton of sugar. Just because it's hipster healthy doesn't mean it will help you lose weight. You're addicted to sugar m8.

>>38969030
Do you have a watermelon hiding in your intestines?

>>38960023
I doubt you're actually eating that little. Are you measuring your portions? 100 kcals of oatmeal is less than 1 oz dry oats. Are you eating any micronutrients? Are you exercising? Why do you use white chocolate as a coping mechanism for life? Why are you spending money on Starbucks instead of a dietitian?

>>38964242
Hey, 5'4.5"

That extra half inch matters anon, she maybe lost a whole .3 on her BMI

>>38969093
You dont understand how great Starbucks white hot chocolate is. I cant replicate how thicc it is at home whereas I can make my body thicc I just want to be able to incorperate thicc white hot chocolate in what is going to be a successful diet of 50 pounds pure fat loss by February resulting in my thicc body

>>38969079
Kekd

>>38959590
Legless douchebags in my gym comes to gym with starbucks
reeeeeeeeeeeee
I want one too.

>>38969079
As I said I store a lot of my fat in my thighs, hips and butt so im gonna achieve that thicc look. Obviously once ive lost my 50 pounds by February then ill no longer look like I have a watermelon there. I just hope this dnp stuff works so I can burn the fat off by feb

>>38969030
write "white chocolate girl" on your horrible tire of a stomach

>>38969164
>not realizing successful weight loss is lifestyle change not an arbitrary number
>not trying natty weight loss
>talking about something instead of doing it
>thinking DNP is the cheat code when you can't be bothered to eat right
>staying on 900cals for three months

wew lass

By all means keep us updated on your weight loss efforts.

Post ass. Let's see what we're dealing with.

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>>38969030
>day 4 of nofap
>this gives me a tingle
>mfw

>>38969030
thats not me
idiot

why is someone pretending to be meeee
im the real white chocolate girl. i have yous all throughout the thread.

>>38969129
thats what im planning to eat
i have ADDerall legally

>>38969645 Listen to this guy >>38969164 . Diet ISN'T something you keep up for a short time and then revert to your old habits. A diet that works is permanent change of your lifestyle till now.
That you want to resort to DNP, even though you're not a lifter or otherwise competitive person, shows how very lazy and irresponsible you are. Those qualities have made you end up in the current state.
Do not go for DNP. Not only it is more risky for females, but you are simply... dumb. You will hurt yourself for very much temporary gains, while the poison takes its toll on you
The very fucking fact that you're dying to still drink Starbucks shit shows you have nowhere near the dedication needed to achieve a thing.

If you can't read the sticky and do your own research, you'll never make it. You're already looking for the easy way out and you haven't even started changing your eating habits. There's no secret, eat less, drink water and no fucking Starbucks.

yeah thanks for no help people
see ya around mid february with results

>>38970431
We can't wait for your weight gain blog.

Fat people are literally retarded, gluttonous addicts.

>>38964228
lmao

i'll tell you what you can get at starbucks: plain black coffee, no milk, no cream, no sugar. that's it. that abomination in your OP picture has at least 400kcal.

in general, you should keep FAR away from anything that has 'chocolate' in its name, lol

>>38970431
>results
Yeah, tell us how much weight you put on since nowbecause you couldnt give up on that whc, you gorilla.

Good luck, Hope you get diabetes on the way

>>38970489
Not op, is a pike with cream, sugar, and shiet legit bad?
I mean, I thought at best it will be equivalent to like 50cals or something, given I dont load up on sugar and just want that sour aftertaste gone

>>38970578
>is a [...] cream, sugar, [...] legit bad?

it's a bunch of liquid calories. if you're trying to lose weight, that's the last thing you want to consume.
it's the same reason why soda is so bad - drinking your calories lets you consume lots of them without filling you up at all - you will still get hungry, but have less calories left for the day to satisfy that hunger. this will leave you miserable and unhappy.

>>38965399
>half a fucking day's worth of calories in one drink
this should be illegal

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>>38970765
:)

>>38970787
fuck this world

>>38960023
100kcal for an oatmeal? What, you eat 4 oats and you are stuffed to the brim?

I advise you re-check those calories

>>38970765
>>38970881

add a few scoops and you got yourself a top tier bulking shake

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>>38970787
>saturated fat 64g
>sugar 266g

>>38965385
would you seriously rather be an amorphous blob of fat who can barely find fitting clothes, look revolting in dresses in the summer when everyone else will be enjoying themselves, and slowly drown your body in fat, just to keep some tits, OR
would you rather be a healthy, tight-bodied chick with a small chest? Are you seriously deciding between these two?
Get yourself together and go on a cut. Stop making excuses for yourself.

>>38970900
i'd rather stretch it out a bit, not consume the whole day's calories in one sitting

>>38965620
wouldn't keto be able to do that? throw in some cardio, strict bar of no sweets or treats, could work.

>>38965625
>i really hate brown rice and chicken
not gonna make it
also how?? add some seasoning, shit is delicious if prepared right

>>38965985
stay strong man, you seem like a good guy

>>38966002
>le edgy

>>38959685
bahaha that thread was golden, glad she's back for more

>>38970710
Eh, I see. I guess Ill just have to grow out of my child palate

>>38962535
>>38962495

Do you guys want to be friends? I'm 5'7, 165 down from 230. Weight loss stalled for a while, dropped down to <500 cal/day for a month because I was depressed. Now I feel guilty if I eat more than 1k cal/day with an hour of cardio :(

>>38966452

You gotta grow up, girl. Nothing tastes as good as skinny feels

>>38966684
Get a hobby, make something other than food matter to you

>>38970976

Keto doesn't magically cause a 2000kcal deficit.

At 5'4 with little muscle her bmr is likely under 2000 even when she's fairly active. Her 900kcal diet is probably just a 5-600kcal deficit.

Unless she literally starves herself even losing 2lbs consistently is not going to happen.

Things are different when you're tiny and things are different when you're morbidly obese. She's both.

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I'm also dieting no drugs and let me tell you over the past few months of intermittent fasting and significant calorie restriction, the most you can hope for is 1- 1.5 lb of weight loss a week, and I'm at 30% bf. You have to be realistic about your goals. Read the sticky. Do a diet you can actually follow. Eat a moderate amount of protein. And lift heavy. You're gonna make it brahh

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>>38967058
put almonds and assorted nuts and dried fruits in it.

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>>38970885
this is the oatmeal
the plain is 100 cals

>>38970988
i can make a healthier version of chicken teriyaki but i need sauce or something. i see bodybuilding meals with chicken and that shit looks mad dry

>>38972488
>i need a sauce
>need

Every post is just more proof that you're not going to make it

>>38972716
you guys like dry chicken and i dont
im thinking about savory sauces, not sweet

>>38959590
>Need hot drink to help with hunger
Fuck off fatty. Drink black coffee/tea. You're never gonna make it.

>>38972767
what about iced tea with stevia?

>>38967190
Typical fatty overcompensating. Good luck being fat forever. Stay at 1200, lift weights, and stay away from the fucking sugary drinks. The only acceptable choice for shitty starbucks drinks is none.

>>38972739
Keep up with the fatty logic. You're gonna do great.

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op how does it feel to be an extremely picky eater? how was it like growing up?

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>>38972903
oop, lemme update that

>>38967109
calories in/calories out and appropriate protein amounts are the onloy 2 things would should be thinking about just now.

900 calories is fucking idiotic. you have to factor in the chances of you fucking everything up ie factor in your willpower. since you're a whale i doubt you have very much. many people in your position feel huge surges of motivation then plan some stupid shit which even an olympian would struggle to stick to. in theory, it;s fantastic - factor in your mental strength and suddenly it becomes a very bad idea since you WILL crack somewhere along the line, you just will if you do something like that.

and that stevia stuff; you have WAY more to worry about (calories and protein) before you even begin to look at <1% stuff like that. unless you're a bodybuilder or something you don't need to worry about anything at all other than calories in/calories out and good protein. that's it - anything else is basically pointless unless you want to get to 5% body fat or something

>>38971529

It gets worse when you keep it that low, people start treating you better and you associate that with weight loss/starving yourself.

ITT: A Master Troll takes /fit/ for a day long ride, posing as the sum of all their fears and hates.

>>38971863

>walnuts
>dried fruits
>on a cut
>shiggydiggydoo

>>38972488

Food is fuel. Your fat will take it's place. You actually don't need any calories at all, no food. Nothing. You've got plenty of reserves.

You only need Vitamins, minerals and certain amino acids. Possibly a few grams of fat. But you could survive on 100 kcal a day for months.

You don't need anything. But you don't need to lose weight either.

Suck it up or just quit now.

>>38973100
yeah i totally would do that if i had zero appetite and didnt feel hunger
i looked up the mk thing you mentioned and it causes hunger in people

i dont eat when im hungry. im depressed and only eat because it's the only thing i like doing i guess? whem in anxious and preoccupied with something, i dont think about food

so its a combination of things. excuses, i know

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>>38973075

Pretty much. But i'm bored and these people actually exist.

I had a friend, female ofcourse, who also complained about conditions and that it would be impossible etc. etc..

Never got more out of that blob than muh thyroid and muh genetics.

Meanwhile I got tired of being fat and dropped 50lbs in 4 months.

>you're just lucky
>No I just quit snacking and drinking sugar. And then cut calories as much as possible
>I can't, while drinking a Coke, it would kill me. My thyroid.

I got pissed after about 5 minutes and because we were with a group at my place I just threw her drink out and gave her water.

>I can't drink this.

Lost three "friends" that day, she got fatter and the rest stopped inviting her as well.

>I can't help it

While drinking 1000 kcal in sugar in 3 hours and then finishing off 10 beers. 3x a week. Accompanied by at least 2 bags of crisps.

Skinny/athletic all the way. Even her great example is weak and fat. Squatting 230 at 160lbs... That's pathetic even for a woman.

>>38973156

Hunger is irrelevant. It doesnt mean anything. Just another excuse.

>>38973177
okay but if i didnt experience hunger, i wouldnt eat. i dont like the feeling
don't you think im a troll like the other people? why are you posting?

>>38972739
You eat it because it's good for you, not because you like it.

>>38973198
You have a bmi of 31.4. You are obese. Even if you only eat when you're hungry, you still eat too much.

>>38973100
Who said anything about a cut?