Who /calisthenics/ here?

Nice blog, where do i subscribe?

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will this exercise help me get my first pull up?

I am 6'1 95 kg and can do 60 kg 3x10 without a problem

when I try to make even one pull up I fail.

how difficult can it be to lift 95 kg once when you can do 3x10 of 60?

>>38951446
Try a narrower grip on the bar. Wide grip pull ups are pretty damn hard. You may have more success if you start around shoulder width and then try to widen your grip over the next few times you exercise

>>38951446
I like slow negative pullups, got to pullups within a couple weeks from auschwitz

>>38951279
Doing bodyweight with dumbbell accessories here, don't really get DOM's though. I get them if I go awhile without working out but after the 1st 2 or so workouts I just stop getting them... What did your routine look like? Currently I try to split up different body parts, such as.
>day 1: chest, triceps, shoulders,
Different types of pushups, dips and various types of tricep extensions, dumbbell presses
>day 2: biceps and back
Usually just a bunch of curls and pull ups
>day 3: legs
Basically just lunge's and squats with added weight by holding a 30lb dumbbell

Then I'll add in some accessories like neck and abs, usually on day 2 and 3. I always make sure to go to failure or close to it and do a minimum of 3 sets of each excersise. I do this 7 days a week and will sometimes take a day off when I'm not feeling up to it. Do you think this is enough to make gains? Should I try to cram all of this shit into 1 day and just do full body or what?

>>38951514
I did
3 sets to failure pull ups (could manage 5-8), then chin ups after a 10 second break
3x8 dips (bench dips before I attained the strength to do parallel bar dips)
3x8 squats (ass-to-grass)
3x8 step ups
2x 50sec 1-leg l-sits
3x8 inverted rows
3x8 pushups

all in one day, every other day, so it was a full body workout. Since they're compound exercises and I was a beginner I figured full-body was the only way to go.
Full body exercises are a must for starting off; way later on when you're doing significantly more taxing exercises like hueg deadlifts that's when it's good to have separate days for each muscle group to have peak performance.

also always try to progress when it comes to bodyweight. Keep correcting your pushup form until your elbows are totally in; after that try a diamond pushup. Keep trying to go lower and have a better angle with your dips. Try a wider grip on pull ups to make them harder once you master regular ones.

>>38951622
>3x8 squats
Jesus, 3x8 with bodyweight? Did you go all the way up? Did you go till failure?

>>38951650
Whoops, typed 3x8 on accident since that's for everything else.

I did 3x20 and tried to go fast up/slow descent. I do admit while I got some gains on legs they weren't truly noticeable till I started doing squats with weights (2x 20 lbs dumbbells, one in each arm), and started doing single-leg calf raises (off an edge and not on a flat floor) about three weeks ago and now my legs look much better.

>>38951446
Do chin ups. It's easier and is a better compound exercise. Do negatives. In a few weeks you'll be doing chin ups in no time.

>>38951692
try to get one legged squats either pistols or shrimps

the problem with bodyweight is that after you get good with hard exercises its very difficult to advance into harder version
for example after doing pullups its very hard to do one handed pullups or after getting dips/one arm pushup/handstand pushup theres not much you can do(maybe planche p-ups but its less about arms more about core)

and here i am doing 100 pullups 50 dips and some one legged work every second day seeing only nervous system gains at this point

>>38951279
HOLY FUK NICE BLOG OP

WHATS THE TLDR? WHAT ARE YOU SHILLING??

>can't into handstand pushups because 100kg
>OHP 90kg
>suddenly can into handstand pushups
>start doing handstand pushups all day erry day
>shoulder starts hurting

wtf I hate calisthenics now

>>38951514
You're better off doing hill sprints than lunges with a 30lb dumbbell tbqth.

>>38951279
Nice blog

>>38951390
>>38951956
>>38952000
> thinking thats an orginal comment

Ignore them OP I'm interested in your story.
Keep us all posted on your continued progress with any new progress pics or vid clips. Show us what you got man. Wanna see how freakin' huge, solid, thick and tight you can get. Thanks for the motivation.

>>38951910
Pistol squats are incredibly hard, it's pretty much impossible to graduate from regular squats to pistol without using some weights in between

also doing pullups/calisthenics in general long after they're done making gains for you still is worth it because it keeps you flexible right?

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>>38951279

Here.

>tfw you can do your workouts in 15 minutes
>tfw you don't need much equipment to do calisthenics

Maybe hanging rings is so-called great investment.

So far calisthenics has been working out for me a lot better than hitting the iron.

>tfw you progress from one move to a harder one

The feeling of accomplishment when you manage your first set of one-hand pull-up.

>Buys door pull up bar
>it pulls door frame from wall
Good bye security deposit

>>38952103
That is weird. Did you buy an iron gym or what? I can't even imagine how this happened.

>>38952042
Any tips on progressing? Do I simply just lift when I hit a bodyweight ceiling until I have enough strength to try the next milestone e.g. pullups -> muscle ups?

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>>38952026
Thanks anon, we're all going to make it

>>38952026
Nice sub blog

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>>38952117

So far I've been using following progression chart.
Worked for me quite well.

>>38951279
They are not underrated, they just take massive amounts of time and effort compared to weights. You can dig a hole with a spoon, most people using shovels does not make spoons "underrated", it makes it an objectively worst choice based on time to results ratio.

>>38952567
Bodyweight exercises has tons of positives that regular lifting doesn't, especially for beginners

+body develops in perfect proportion
+increases flexibility
+guaranteed to look lean
+low risk of injury compared to lifting
+++functional strength. What's the point of lifting huge barbells if you can't lift yourself?

just because you can't do a pullup anon doesn't mean it has no benefits

Been doing this hsit for 2 years but I really need to develop legs for rugby, should constantly cycling help?

>>38951390
>>38951956
>>38952000
Aren't you supposed to be at school?

>>38952598
>+body develops in perfect proportion
Subjective. Compared to the first humans only squatting will give you their aesthetics. People today have severely unbalanced bodies and underdeveloped legs. That's why strong legs look so "weird" and like t-rex legs to people when in fact they're actually balanced to match the rest.
>+increases flexibility
So does weightlifting. A2g squats did wonders for my kickboxing for example.
>+guaranteed to look lean
Uwotm8. Bodyweight training follows the same thermodynamic laws as lifting.
>+low risk of injury
[citation needed] If you exhaust yourself in the same way you do when lifting, the risk becomes the same. And vice versa, if you never actually lift heavy, the risk becomes almost non-existing. Gymnasts have a very high risk of injury.
>+++functional strength
No such thing. If a muscle is strong, it's strong.

>>38951279
I am. I'm not lifting at all, I would rather work on static bodyweight straight arm positions.
Currently trying to get the planche, I can do a tucked planche for about 30 seconds right now.

/fit/ hates on calisthenis because its full of delusional fatfucks who think drinking a gallon of milk a day and squatting three times will give them a greek god body. I do calisthenics every other day in addition to running and biking, eating with a fair caloric surplus and so far im noticing awesome changes iny body : bigger and defined legs, bigger back and solid abs.

>>38952795
/fit/ hates calisthenics because they're useless. Doing freeweights is a lot more efficient for both building mass and strength, so unless you're a ghetto nigga that can't afford a gym membership there is literally no reason to do calisthenics

>>38951279
>Anyone else here started with bodyweight instead of hitting the iron right away? How did it work out for you?
I did calisthenics for about three years before switching to weights in january of this year. I'm 6'3, and I gained roughly 40 pounds from calisthenics. I don't understand why so many people shit on calisthenics. If you're not an absolute idiot, you can make decent gains with it.

>>38951744
Chinups isn't a 'better' exercise, it's a different one. Optimally, one should do both.

>>38952029
>it's pretty much impossible to graduate from regular squats to pistol without using some weights in between
Nonsense, you just have to know how to progress.

>>38952824
>thinking that something is useless because something else is more efficient
Not everybody has the same goals, you nitwit.

>>38952669

Sprint cyclist here. Cycling isn't going to build strong legs. It will build resilient legs, especially with low cadence work.

If you want to build stronger legs for rugby, ya gonna have ta squat.

lololololol

why not just lift AND do calisthenics
there's no shame in doing pull ups and bench press. and who the hell does squats without weight

>>38952532
This is the best chart known to man kind

>>38952795

Me too, mate. Just do both

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>5.11 130
>swole as fuck
Go hang yourself m80
Once you get below 15%bf with an "overweight" BMI, then you can be considered to lift.
>t. Lifting+calisthenics

>>38952880
>Not everybody has the same goals, you nitwit.

Yes, but calisthenics achieves no goal optimally. If you want aesthetics and/or strength, weightlifting is the optimal route. If you want endurance, aerobic training with a monitored heart rate is the optimal route. Everything else is pointless, unless you're training for a specific sport.

>>38952880
They shit on it because they think getting fit on something so simple means all of the effort they put forth in DA GYM is meaningless.

Their entire sense of self revolves around the iron game and lifting weights.

Or their shills pushing a crappy powerlifting program, supps, steroids, and gym life to absolute noobs who don't know any better.

>>38954671
Yeah, cause people who do calisthenics don't get aesthetic or strong.

Cause people who've only done calisthenics and never touched a weight can't out squat people in an ass to grass squat with minimum training?

Yeah nah. The average slightly advanced calisthenics person can get strength "aesthetics" and have that transfer EASILY to lifting.

>>38952880
Chinups activate the same amount of lats than pullups. Pullups moreso isolate lats whereas Chinups make it a more compound movement because of added biceps.

>>38952532
>assisted squate
Are these somehow better/different from regular squats or are there people somewhere who can't do an unassisted bodyweight squat before training? Genuinely interested.

>>38951446
No. Pullups/chinups are weird, really the only way to get better at them is to do them.

Do negatives

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>doing the 7 weeks to 50 pullup progression
>week 2 right now
>need to do australian pullups
>don't have anything that I can use to do them
>mfw

>>38954809
Smith machine. Or if you don't go to a park near you that has bodyweight equipment. There's always one everywhere I go whether I'm in ohio, North Dakota, Minnesota, or Florida.

>>38954809
Be that weirdo who goes to playgrounds and do them on monkey bars

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Lifting with weights is better for gains.
I did calisthenics for years and made all the progress you see on the left. 3 years ago I switched to lifting and right is current.

If you ask me, it was the lifting.
Also legs. Legs need weight training to be trained properly. Pic related.

>>38954716
pullups gives additional forearm work though
do both and more (neutral grip, horizontal bw rows etc)

>>38954962
how tall are you?

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>>38951279
Yeah must feel AMAZING doing calisthenics when you weigh 130lbs....

I literally weigh 1.75X as much as you at the same height.

>MFW I do weighted chins

>>38954962
did you ever do weighted pullups or dips?

>>38954693
>Yeah, cause people who do calisthenics don't get aesthetic or strong

they do get "aesthetic", if by aesthetic you mean ottermode, but the mass and strength you achieve with freeweights is a lot bigger and the progression a lot faster.

>Cause people who've only done calisthenics and never touched a weight can't out squat people in an ass to grass squat with minimum training

yes but what's the point of that comparison? if you take someone that lifted a year and someone that did bodyweight exercises for a year, the results aren't even comparable.

>The average slightly advanced calisthenics person can get strength "aesthetics" and have that transfer EASILY to lifting

and again, there is no reason to do that. calisthenics is like lifting but never raising the weight, yeah sure you will make some gains at first but the weight will become light eventually and you will be able to do most shit for 15-20 reps. after that happens, you're training endurance friend. without progressive overload, you cannot train strength past noobgains

also lets not forget that calisthenics won't train half your body, since there aren't any serious leg exercises you can do without weights

>>38954887
>>38954913
Living in a 3rd world country can't afford common shit like jungle gyms/rails/etc.

Although I already got a pullup bar at home. Would be weird if I went back and forth

>>38955054
>they do get "aesthetic", if by aesthetic you mean ottermode, but the mass and strength you achieve with freeweights is a lot bigger and the progression a lot faster.
By "asethetic" I assume you mean like Zyzz or Seid or Panda correct? That level of "aesthetic" comes from a syringe. And once you do gear it doesn't fucking matter what exercise you do.

>yes but what's the point of that comparison? if you take someone that lifted a year and someone that did bodyweight exercises for a year, the results aren't even comparable.
Results in what?
What are you even saying. Is that just some "LIFTING WEIGHTS IS BETTER JUST BECAUSE" bullshit with no actual thought behind it like the rest of this post is bound to be?

>and again, there is no reason to do that. calisthenics is like lifting but never raising the weight, yeah sure you will make some gains at first but the weight will become light eventually and you will be able to do most shit for 15-20 reps. after that happens, you're training endurance friend. without progressive overload, you cannot train strength past noobgains
Fucking stupid.

>also lets not forget that calisthenics won't train half your body, since there aren't any serious leg exercises you can do without weights
Fucking stupid.


Okay you're fucking stupid.
I regret replying to you.

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>>38955054
>and again, there is no reason to do that. calisthenics is like lifting but never raising the weight, yeah sure you will make some gains at first but the weight will become light eventually and you will be able to do most shit for 15-20 reps. after that happens, you're training endurance friend. without progressive overload, you cannot train strength past noobgains
>also lets not forget that calisthenics won't train half your body, since there aren't any serious leg exercises you can do without weights

>>38955054
you've never trained in calisthenics, have you?

>>38955110
You can still "increase the weight" buy altering the leverage.
example: start with a normal push up, progress to diamond push ups, then to pseudo planche push ups, then to tuck planche push ups...

>>38952532
That's a fucking nice chart right there, thanks man

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>>38952532
This reminds me of War Thunder vehicle progression.

>>38954962
routine? stats?

>>38951279
>been called "the skinniest person I've ever seen" by a friend at college while at the pool

normies never realize how much those kind of comments affect us do they

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>>38955092
>By "asethetic" I assume you mean like Zyzz or Seid or Panda correct? That level of "aesthetic" comes from a syringe. And once you do gear it doesn't fucking matter what exercise you do.

i never said that. by aesthetic i mean something like 6' 80-85kg at 9-10% bf, which isnt achievable with bodyweight exercises unless you're juicing. but even if you are juicing, you'll have better results weightlifting

>Results in what?
strength and muscle mass

>What are you even saying. Is that just some "LIFTING WEIGHTS IS BETTER JUST BECAUSE" bullshit with no actual thought behind it like the rest of this post is bound to be?

No it's not, you compared someone who has been doing calisthenics for some time vs a minimally trained lifter. I asked you what the point of that comparison is, and told you that if you compare 2 people that have trained equal time, one with calisthenics and one with free weights, the second one will have achieved both superior muscle mass gain and strength

>Fucking stupid.

or you're just an idiot that doesn't know about human physiology. your strength increases only when you train at a certain % of your 1rm, after that you aren't training strength anymore. once your 1rm becomes a lot bigger than your bodyweight, you will be training at endurance weights.

and calisthenics do not train your legs, since there is no bodyweight exercise to provide the resistance needed to properly train your legs. but at this point i realize i'm either responding to b8 and an extremely idiotic person. either way, for anyone else besides you that's reading this and was legitimately curious about it, i've explained why it's meme tier training comparable to x-fit.

My view on the benefits of calisthenics is this; the human arm is very close to the arms of our predecessors, chimps & gorillas. The arm evolved with climbing trees, bodyweight calisthenics, as its main use.

Chimps and gorillas are in general pretty muscular and the movements used the most by them, while climbing trees, are most similiar to one and two handed variants of regular pull ups and neutral grip pull ups.

>>38955278
You don't really understand do you.

They don't WANT to get as swole as possible Many people don't want to follow the pied piper of bullshit natty gains to gear town.

Efficiency?
Better?
For a goal they don't want or care for?

Who're you trying sell that shit too.

>>38955278
>or you're just an idiot that doesn't know about human physiology. your strength increases only when you train at a certain % of your 1rm, after that you aren't training strength anymore. once your 1rm becomes a lot bigger than your bodyweight, you will be training at endurance weights.
>and calisthenics do not train your legs, since there is no bodyweight exercise to provide the resistance needed to properly train your legs.

What do you mean by properly train your legs?
Do squats?
You can do pistol squats and glute ham raises.
You don't really have to ever do a squat or deadlift ever.

By the way, disadvantagous leverage makes certain movements very hard.
Unless you are stating that you can do multiple one arm chinups or one legged squats.
I mean calisthenics is really really easy.

>>38954962
>Calisthenics only on the left
Looks like you did literally nothing and on the right it looks like you did babbys first cycle and squats.

When I started training pre-enlistment I got stuck at about 70 push ups in 2 minutes, still a skeleton faggot, but once i started adding lifting to my routine i broke through my wall to 90 pushups. In my experience it made more since to supplement one with the other to achieve my specific goal.

>>38955781
Fucking kill me
*sense not since>>38955781

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>>38952744
>>+++functional strength
>No such thing. If a muscle is strong, it's strong.

>>38953266
Unassisted Pistol Squats are a bitch...

>>38955402
>Evolution
>Believing in jewish fairytales

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>>38954809

Poorfag here.

This took $5 to build.
If you want a bar, Just use a broom stick.

The cat is an essential part of this apparatus. Should you fail to get the last minimum rep, you get the look of pity.
Should you surpass rep till muscle failure, you get the look of pity.

Until you evolve from DYEL Status, Calisthenics Cat only rewards you with the loo of pity.

>>38955936
thank you willow

>>38954716
>Chinups activate the same amount of lats than pullups.
No, they don't, because the biceps take over more on chinups, compared with pullups. Pullups hit lats better because of the disadvantaged position of the biceps.

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>>38954913

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnWrvWZDJTo

>>38955145
and legs?

>>38956297
Pistol squats... pistol squats for days.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCpz8QW1O3w

or see here. >>38952532

>>38952744
>Fatasfatass who can't even do handstand let alone hold it for 5 seconds

Calisthenics is impressive on the advanced level. I think it would be cool if I could do handstand pushups anywhere or do muscle ups anywhere to impress people.

>>38955860
They are entry level for anyone that has walked in the past 5 years and isn't morbidly obese

>>38956410
>pistol squats are for fat people

Lol wut? No. This is where calisthenics is misunderstood. It’s one thing to be able to complete a rep, it’s another thing to be able to complete a PROPER rep. it's usually hard to make it gain in such a way that allows you to build up progressive overload. Once a exercise becomes easy at 20 reps, you have to change leverage or add weight.
If it's easy, your doing it wrong. Proper form and equal time under tension per leg is not an easy thing to do. It's the last two reps that matter, doing 15-20-20 gets your legs pumped up like a balloon. Once that gets easy, then you will have no choice but to add weight,

>>38956297
I believe the calisthenics community uses weights for lunges or goblet squats. Scooby is a big calisthenics/home workout supporter but he says he still goes to the gym for legs typically.

What's a good routine? Is this ok?

Little bit of running to warm up my body
5x5 pull-ups
5x5 pushups
5x5 squats

>>38951910
>>38952029
full one legged squats fuck my knees up real good, due to the range of motion and the leverage required, i think. i have no problem doing them, but god help me if i try to do them 3x a week: my knees had this perma soreness that i thought would go away after i got used to the level of exertion. it wasn't exactly painful, but it was bothersome, and to make it go away entirely i had to stop doing anything for an entire month.

i went back to shrimps.

>>38951279
If your just going to do calisthenics you might as well go /fraud/ so youll gain more

>>38956666
>i'd throw in dips, body rows, and some form of ab work. Also work into single leg squats, bulgarian split or deep step ups then shrimps or pistols

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>lmao calisthenics is for losers

t. """"fit"""" man who can only do 1 pull up (without lower body momentum)

pic related

>>38956576
Pistol squats are easy as fuck, if it's hard then you are weak or 150kg+

>>38957058
You dense m8?

>>38956998
Pullups are the only calisthenic exercise worth your time. No lat pulldown or row can hit your lats harder than a pullup. Other than that, everything else is better with a barbell, dumbell, and a bench. Calisthenics is basically what they try to carve into your mind for PE Class and military drill instructors who don't know shit about fitness.

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>>38956998
I can never get over this pic. 1 fucking pullup?

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>>38957137
>>38956998
Most people can't do a proper dip either. They're significantly harder than pushups

>>38957387

I used to do sets of 15-20 dips and now I struggle with 3 after returning to lifting from a period off. Feels REALLY bad.

>>38957387
I forgot about dips. I agree. Dips are a great calisthenic exercise. Better than decline bench for your pecs and they hit triceps really well. I wouldn't waste your time with too much calisthenics other than incorporating pullups/chins and Dips into your routine.

I understand though people have a passion for calisthenics and like challenging their bodies to perform certain movements. If it's a hobby and you enjoy it then do it.

>>38951500
this. just pull yourself up as hard as you can. then jump and hold yourself up as hard as you can.

What's better for your chest

>5 rep max of bench press or incline bench

>50 pushups

I feel benching will break down muscle fibers more and use more chest activation due to a greater challenge of getting the weight off your chest. A lot of pushups and high reps in general just seem bad for joints and use up more time.

>>38957467
Pushups aren't bad for your joints if your elbows are in. With your elbows out and your body shaped like a T there's pressure on your elbows, but when your arms are in your movement is a lot more natural

If you've even mastered elbows in pushups, do decline pushups or diamond pushups.

Or do dips >>38957387 >>38957426

>>38957467
depends on what you want.
Bench will give more muscle growth.
Pushups will give you more resilient muscles. 50 really isn't all that much. I do 4 sets of 20 inclined.

Whats the weight distribution ideally like for single leg squats? Complete center of your foot correct? I do shrimps barefoot and am wobbly as fuck

>>38957137
What about chin-ups

>>38957518
Chinups use the same lat activation as pullups but incorporate biceps, which makes it a compound movement which is good. Chinups are great if it allows you to do more reps than pullups and if you don't mind incorporating biceps

>>38956998
I never understood the "5.0 inches is the average dick size" meme.
It's not like I see a lot of men naked, but most men claim their dick is longer than 5 inches. Normally 6 or 7, in some cases even 8 inches.
Now to average that out to 5 inches, there would have to be a significant amount of people whose dicks are shorter than 5 inches. Because if some guys have 8 inch dicks, to average it out to 5, you'd need to have the same amount of guys with 2 inch dicks (which I doubt exist), or a lot of guys with 3 or 4 inch dicks.
And I just don't see that being possible

>>38957904
>most men claim their dick is longer than 5 inches. Normally 6 or 7, in some cases even 8 inches
measurement error :^)

>>38951279

I don't believe you.

I started the same as you, although even skinnier given my height(6'3 125lbs).

I started doing pushups and chin ups in 11th grade.
I eventually got to the point where I was doing sets of 32 and 28 respectively.

None of that helped, I was still weak as fuck.

It wasn't until I picked up a pair of dumbells that I actually started seeing and feeling gainz. Despite my high reps witht body weight, I initially struggled to get 12 reps with only a 12 pound dumbell.
Of course that late improved, and eventually the 12 pounds was too light, but the point is, all of the high reps low weight calisthenics didn't do shit to make me stronger.
Now in college, with access to gym with barbell and after starting a program, I am pretty much stronger than I have ever been.

Pretty much, low weight/high reps is a meme, and it is extremely ineffective at building strength.
Or at least it was in my experience. I should also mention that I did long distance cardio all throughout highschool, so that probably was a factor.

>>38957508
You meant shoulders, not elbows.
The amount of tucking is very much dependent on the person.
More tucked isn't generally better.
A good starting point is ~50deg angle between torso and upper arm at the bottom of the lift.

>>38957518
Chin-ups have the same lat activation, a larger range of motion, more biceps and chest activation, but less forearm and lower trapezius activation.

>>38957904
Men lie
Men measure wrong
Women can't measure for shit

It's not about the actual size when it comes to dicks, it's about presentation it's about everything surrounding the dick, and the man.

When it comes down to the nitty gritty size does matter. Espescially if the relative sizes of the sexual organs don't match well and the partners don't know how too or care to have sex in a way that makes their matches work.

However, when women just want to get destroyed by something relatively large, that's when they'll get all cock hungry and please put it in make it hurt etc etc. Sorry the last part is just..nothing.

>>38958419
>Say the OP is a liar
>Write a near tldr that's just a big lie

Nice

>>38958419
I can't even do 20 pushups, but I can do 20 reps with a 12lbs dumbbell just fine even after months of not lifting.
I assume your cardio experience helps with the pushups, because at some point it's less about strength and more about endurance.

>>38958594
how is this a big lie?

>>38958605
interested in hearing your stats

I would be able to do 20 reps with 12 lbs too, assuming I took a few months break. The thing is I hadn't ever lifted prior to that.

>>38951279

>saying that he got gains from unweighted calisthenics

extremely delusional, you will never make it

>>38951446
Move up to 70kg 3x7 and build up to 70kg 3x10, then move up to 80kg 3x7, etc

>people getting shoulder, elbow pains from unweighted pushups and dips

never gonna make it

>>38951744

>chinups are a better compound exercise

kek

>>38954716
>Chinups activate the same amount of lats than pullups
This doesn't explain why I can do 8 chinups with relative ease but only 3 pullups and a fucking sore back.

>>38958886
maybe you have shit lats and awesome biceps.

>>38958886
https://breakingmuscle.com/strength-conditioning/pull-up-vs-chin-up-a-comparison-and-analysis

>>38952824
>so unless you can't afford a gym membership there is literally no reason to do calisthenics

already sold me, imma do body-weight exercises now

>>38958886

I actually prefer pull ups, because i can do strength routines with them and get a pumped back while if i do low reps with chin ups i don't feel my back working but get pumped biceps

>>38958908
I happen to have shit biceps and megashitty lats, I guess.

>>38951279
How do i do a shoulder flag?
I can rep out dragon flags for several reps but i simply cant do a shoulder flag and apperantly if you can do a dragon flag you should be able to do that.

>>38958419
Try to not be a retard and increase the difficulty of the exercise next time.

>>38959072
what the fuck are you even saying, retard?

>>38959103
Braindead retards like you who never figured out what progressive overload give calisthenics a bad name. Why would you keep doing push ups when you can already do 20+ reps? Why not try decline push ups, archer push ups, dips or literally any other pushing varostion? Thats exactly why you made no gains.
When you can bench 135 for 15 reps do you add weight or do you decide to be an idiot and just keep doing high reps?

>>38959103
He's saying the guy who claimed he did calisthenics is a retard who did a few pushups and situps and thought he was doing something.

Problem is, even the skinniest teen will see great results if he eats well and does a dedicated calisthenics workout. So either they are lying or are a genetic abnormality who should see no gains no matter what program they are on.

>>38959160
Not him, but adding weight is a lot easier and harder to fuck up than figuring out which progression you should do.

>>38959189
It doesnt matter if its easy or hard. He chose to not do anything and made no gains due to his decision.

>>38959189
Only if you're ignorant

>>38959160
>why not try
>dips
I did those, actually
>decline pushups

>why not

Why not just go to the fucking gym?

If I'm at the point where I need a fucking ledge to be able to do my pushups, I might as well just fucking spend the 50 bucks(I don't know the actual fee. My college gym is free) and get access to the gym for a year.

If anyone is the braindead retard, it's you.

Enjoy your nogainz.

>>38959298
Why would you need a ledge? Just use a wall like someone who isn't a potato

>>38957111
No, just not a fatasfatass weakling

>>38959329
>potato

>wall

>not going to the gym

who?

>>38954809

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYUxXMGVuuU

>>38959053
Whoever said that is lying, dragon flags are far easie because your body isn't straight, this reduces the moment and therefore requires less strength

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>>38959368
Can someone translate this potato to English for me please?

>>38952115
not the same anon, but i tried doing weighted chinups on an iron gym pullup bar and it ripped the molding off the top of my door frame.

>>38956576
unless you're a fucking fatfuck or a skelly who spent their entire adolescence playing vidya, pistols are easy as shit to most athletic people. They're mostly a matter of balance and once you get that down the only form of progressive overload is to add weight to them. Which defeats the purpose of doing them in the first place since it would be more efficient to just do a barbell squat.

>>38951279
>usaf bro killing a pullup
>being active duty usaf
>tfw chairforce still go to diss from other branches

feeling proud in my pt gear

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>>38951279
>130lbs
>"swole as fuck"
Hey bro, I know you're euphoric from all those """"gains"""", but c'mon, those guys were either making fun of you or encouraging you not to fall back into Auschwitz mode without saying it directly.
Jesus Christ, my dog probably weighs more than you.

>>38959753
>unless you're a fucking fatfuck or a skelly who spent their entire adolescence playing vidya, pistols are easy as shit to most athletic people.

Can you do them?

>>38952744
>No such thing. If a muscle is strong, it's strong.

Thats not true. I've seen dudes who could pull down 250 lbs but couldnt pull up. They couldnt recruit all the muscles in unison to pull their fat ass up.

You get strong at what you train for. Always.

>>38959840
yes because they're easy as shit, just because you grabbed an infographic off of reddit and did some pushups for a few months doesn't make you a fitness expert with secret knowledge that makes scientists hate you.

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>"did you hear anon can't even do 10 pull ups or dips?"
>"hahaha ewww what a beta, and he tells people he lifts!"

>>38959827
I dunno it's pretty believable. Sudden gainz can really make someone look ripped. I knew a skelly who bulked up over a semester while not attending college and when he came back I could not stop noticing the toned muscles because it was a hard reboot of my image of him. Someone who met him for the first time would probably not think of him as as ripped/ottermode as my impression of him was

On the internet too a progress pic might not look like much without a "before" picture, but when that's there the gains/weight loss suddenly become super apparent

>>38951279
noob gains are easy with calisthenics if you dedicate yourself
when i started gym i did like 150 push ups a day minimum and got a giant cheat, still disproportinate

>>38960101
A lot of guys back in my high school days would begin training and get decent physiques, including a 5'4" garden dwarf, but nobody got impressed unless the person actually got damn huge. And 130lbs isn't huge.
Looking ripped while at skeleton weight doesn't do much, except indicate that maybe you're not a total loser.

Skellies improving their physiques is cute when you have a decent physique yourself, not impressive.

>>38959882
You're a lying shilling faggot.

>>38960310
why would i lie about being able to do something as simple as a pistol squat. If i say i can run a mile without stopping am i also a lying faggot? Just because it's hard for someone who is out of shape to do doesn't mean it's difficult for those who are.

>>38959369
does the grip not matter? i'll try the 2nd method later

>>38960518
uh huh...

>>38960849
what's going on here?? are you claiming the pistol squat is some advanced or difficult movement? I'm confused what you're calling the guy out on.

Whats the calisthenics equivalent to 1/2/3/4 pl8
Something like being able to planche, front/back lever, hspu?

>>38961634
I'm saying that you're a lying faggot. That you can not actually do the pistol squat and people who claim to be able to do advanced movements in calisthenics as a way to say that calisthenics are useless are usually lying faggots who're shilling powerlifting/gymlife bullshit.

>>38951446
the meme that worked for me is to jump to the top or use a chair to get up, and lower self down as slowly as you can manage

you'll feel it, and after some practice you should be able to do a pullup

of course the more you weigh the harder it's gonna be

what's the point of having your off leg straight out in front of you when doing a pistol squat? why not just have it bent just enough to be not be touching anything (ground, another body part, etc)?

>>38955936
Thank you Calisthenics Cat

>>38958886
Because there's more muscles being worked retard

>>38951279
What is your bideltoid breadth? How much widerare your shoulders than your waist?

>6' 130lb
>swole as fuck
you're still a twig

>>38959881
You mean they could cheat pull 250

>>38951279
Do you mind posting pics op? I would really like to see.

>>38962096
Kek

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>>38952026
>>38963663
Didn't think the thread would last this long.

Here's what I look 3 months since I started working out. Don't have a good "before" picture but take my word for it that I was a skeleton.

What do you think? (pls no bully)

>>38963740
eat more and go to a gym

>>38963740

Looks pretty similar to me, if you don't mind me asking what size are your wrists

>be 200kg fatty
>palms sweaty
>arms spaghetti

>CMON 12 pullups, no excuses

Fuck you dyel manskels

>>38951279
Can I mix calisthenics with lifting?
Like, mon, wedn, fri - lifting;
tue, thur, sat - cali?
With the most progress in lifting (low volume cali, I mean).

>>38963770
thanks I'm trying

>>38963778
Just measured it, it's about 6".

>>38963740
Thanks op, id say you are getting thicker overall.

Just go to fucking gym unless you strictly enjoy bodyweight shit.

If you want to achieve muscle mass as natty, then calisthenics is inferior in any way.
If you however don't care about muscle mass and just want to have fun, then sure, go ahead.

But please, stop shilling it as viable body building method.

>>38963865
>>38960015 >>38956998

>>38963865
Lots of guys HAVE in fact gotten better bodies doing calisthenics.
This isn't even up for debate.

The only people who LIE about this are shills.

>>38963913
What's really not up for debate is that if you can bench your own body weight but can't do 10 pull ups or dips, you are objectively not fit.

>>38959298
50 bucks for one year of gym?
In the country I live is 50-100 euros for 1 month.

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>>38956998
Wait what the FUCK? Do I actually LITERALLY have /fit/ induced body dismorphia? I thought I was a fucking skinnyfat fuccboi manlet, but my chest and arms a significantly larger, my waist is significantly smaller, I'm an inch and a half taller, and I blow all of those exercise metrics out of the water. Even my fucking dick is bigger.

Fucking explain yourself /fit/, have you faggots been fucking gainz gaslighting me or some shit?

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>>38963740
How much weight did you gain? And are you entirely confident in the accuracy of
your weight 3 months ago?

>>38964094
I know for a fact I was 110 lbs (around 50kg) in May. I checked my weight on Sunday and I'm 130lbs.

If I hadn't mentioned my weight how much would you guess I would be? Other 130lbs people look like absolute twigs, and I'd put myself at least one or two tiers above that

>>38963913
You mean lots of people on roids look amazing through calisthenics, digit example the barstars or w/e?

>>38964187
And every guy who is held up as a natural aesthetic guy who lifts /fit/ is on fist fulls of steroids.

No I mean people who just do calisthenics workouts and get great gains naturally.

Constrict all muscle chains when you do anything. Damn folks who meme how useless calisthenics is. Everything you do should be isometric and compound. This applies to lifting too faggots
If you don't focus your entire body and tighten every muscle you will get static growth because the body is lazy and only will repair the path of least resistance. Believe it or not doing this can cause you to lift easier because suddenly the entire body will take the load instead of the effected area

>>38964140
Eh, idk. You're the same height and weight as me though. You look a lot shorter than 5'10" though, wouldn't have guessed if you never told me.

>>38964411
>same height and weight as me though
Post pics

>>38963803
no its fucking dumb just add bw exercises into your lifting routine

>>38954962
You probably half assed doing calisthenics.

>>38951279
Implying I would read all that shit.

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https://www.docdroid.net/jgKIPWD/ido-portal-floreio-routines.pdf.html

Been at it since Conor murdered Aldo. Changed my bum life it did. My neck and back feel better than they did as a teen.

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>>38964011
THE GOYIM KNOW SHUT IT DOWN

Yo /fit/, I've got a recruit test coming up in a few months time. I need to be aiming for 60 push ups, 85 sit ups and 16 pullups each within two minutes. Any routines you'd recommend?

Currently I can do about half the maximum, which is enough to scrape a pass but I want to be fit as a fiddle when I start.

>>38964011
Congratulations, you're better than the average person. You realise the average person doesn't exercise right?

>>38964835
YOU HAVE BEEN VISITED BY ANGRY DOGGO OF FOOD DEPRIVATION

HUNGER AND LACK OF PROTEIN WILL COME TO YOU UNLESS YOU POST

IT'S OK DOGGO I WILL FEED YOU SOON

IN THIS THREAD

>>38964212
except that most calisthenic nattys looks dyel

>>38961719
pistol squats are easy as shit

>herp derp pistol suqats are the pinaccle of calisthenics so you cant naturally do it

fuck off dyel, i bet you look like shit like OP

>>38963740
If that's three months that's pretty good. You look like someone who's into fitness (without the bulk) for some months longer than that. Currently you look 70% ottermode, but instead you should continue bulking and put on at least another 20 lbs. Don't settle for the ottermode meme. Start lifting but keep doing push-ups and dips

also you have objectively the most aesthetic skin color (light brown) which looks great with gains. Great potential, you can make it

Just lift weights desu

>>38965080
*meant pull ups and dips

Felt an odd pulling sensation in my elbow at the end of a set of chin ups earlier today. It's now more of a diffuse soreness radiating from the back of the elbow, up the back of my arm. I can't tell for sure, but I think it's the tendon of the triceps brachii. My suspicion is that that last descent was too quick.

At no point during all of this would I call it significantly or severely painful, but I'm pretty paranoid about the risks of long healing time in tendon injuries. Does this sound like something that ought to go away after a couple of days rest?

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>>38956576

Realtalk fajitos how do I one arm chinup? I'm like 225lbs and can do ~12-14 chins a set.

Do I just do weighted chins until the weight of plates goes over my bodyweight to be able to make a one handed chin?

>>38957904
>it's not like i see a lot of men naked
nobody asked faggot

doing it from when youre skinny is fine.
but when you a fat fuck like me its difficult because you start with more weight and lower muscle mass.

lifting would be easier.