/fraud/ sterons general

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Jerrbears checked

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first for /a/

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>>38946333
in4 qts

>>38946366
Nice
>>38946368
Lol nerd

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>>38946368

>>38946507
I'd taste it but it looks atrocious.

>>38946333

How cautious were you guys first cycle when it comes to sides?

I want to start up first cycle soon and plan on doing test enth 400 per week for 10-12 weeks.

I want to be very safe though (obviously) and retain as much gains as possible so I'm contemplating what to add in. I'm thinking aromasin when I start to feel sensitive titties, HCG 500 per week for the last month and then both nolva and clomid for pct. Is this safe or stupid

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>>38946523
Looks good af tbH

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>>38946507
asians sure aren't going to stay lean, at this rate

speaking of how's that cut going

>>38946622
what is this and where can i get one...

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>>38946626
>that cut
??

Haha, forgot I was supposed to be on a cut. My second and third workout back at it I went a little too hard trying to make 50lb jumps on the deadlift, back's been bothering me a bit since. My mobility sucks too, have a shard of glass in my right foot that I probably need to see an orthopedist to get removed.

>>38946581
Get some nolva for your cycle too. I started using aromasin at the outset of my first cycle but I seem to be ultra sensitive to it and I was basically crashing my oestrogen and then seeing it rise up again a few days later. My hormones must have been all over the place and i was getting sore nips all the time. Switched to nolva to stop gyno whilst e2 stabilised and after a while I stopped taking the nolva altogether.

I'm on cycle two now and not taking any ancillaries. I can't even take 3mg of aromasin without absolutely crashing my oestrogen with no survivors.

hcg is obviously expensive and a lot of people avoid it, or just blast and cruise anyway. I used it before and think it really helped. Got some acne sides which i didn't really get on the cycle but this time i've got twice the amount and I'm going to start early on it. If i'm fucking with my health and hormones i'm not going to cheap out of pct.

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>>38946636
Those look good, yeah, a lot of places have decent nachos too though.

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Who here is /pharmaTRT/?

My doc wants to try HCG-only therapy at first. What do bloods look like on HCG-only therapy?

He said that due to my young (25 kek) age he is hesitant to prescribe test unless I don't respond to HCG. I assume that if you take HCG your LH should be crashed, but would FSH also be low?

Basically, I'm trying to see if I can find a way to manipulate my bloods in a way that makes it look like HCG doesn't do shit for me. Is running HCG by itself suppressive? Forums/google have conflicting bro-science tier answers.

Or should I just be happy if HCG ends up working and just rely on UGL for b&c purposes.

How do you manage to travel while on a short Esther cycle?
Planning a trip outside of a legal country into an illegal one yet I'm in Mast test tren cycle. It will only be for 3 days

>>38946581
>cycle
>retain as much gains as possible

wanna know how i know you're not ready?

>>38946882
Pre-loaded syringes. If you don't think you can get needles at your destination, either check your bags or mail the needles to yourself.

>>38946928
Wouldn't the airlines be suspicious about the content in preloaded syringes ?
Wish it was as easy as moving drugs country to country

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>>38946882

>illegal country

Specifics pls.

>>38946581
7 weeks into trt, yolo. Lets add eq and triple test

4 weeks later, fuck eq. Lets add tren-e and sdrol.

8 weeks after that I had lost 4kg and added 15kg to bench (135 1rm incline), 25 to squat(220 1rm) and added 4 reps to pullups, 12 with 50kg around my waist.

Slight shedding from the tren but nothing serious. Serious e2 issues from the high test/eq though. I did better on tren only.

Anyone here interested in a group buy btw? Me and 2 friends in germany are going to buy some orals and ai as well as mk677 and gw etc... Dnp as well if people are interested anyway.

Found an msten source <3.

>>38946666

Why the fuck have you not added me on fb yet.

Any tips for my last cut? I jumped 20kg on all lifts since I started a month ago, going to cut every time I hit that to let joints and shit catch up.

Also. Sharp pain in my delts isn't going away unless I pull my shoulderblades all the way back.

>tfw you think you had a shitty workout and feel bad and get extremely sore anyway.

Guess that's the stage before DOMS gtfo permantly?

Do steroids make manlets taller?

>>38946936
They might. I've never tried this - most I've done is carry vape-oil cartridges. I just put them in the "pen holder" compartment of my backpack and carry them on.

If you're that worried about being caught just check your bags. Checked bags are not given as much scrutiny and are not screened for liquids AFAIK.

>>38947038
I don't use Facebook all that much, or the social medias in general.

Eat less, move more.

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>>38946368
in
>>38946394
remember that episode where ash was going to give away pikachu?
made me cry as a kidlet.

I hope ESTP was serious about fucking off forever

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>>38947109
never 4get

Hola long time lurker/lifter. Was cutting to 15% from 35%+ fatassfuck with the goal of pinning as my motivation. I just been staring at my test vials for like 2 months. Anyway, I'm estimating im between 19-22%

Anyway I walked into my room today and - being the clumsy fuck that I am - tripped and landed ass first on a loaded syringe. I have 90x25mg asin and 90x20mg nolva. I'm just gonna run 12.5 eod starting now (cuz im still the fat) and increase if needed. My test e is from DML and has good reviews. Blood work I got for a check up a few weeks ago was great

desu I don't want to use bathtub chems after like 4 months...shelf life of the test cyp at the pharmacy have an expiration of like a year if unopened.

I'm going to do PSMF and some cardio for the next 2-3 weeks on top of lifting to get as lean as I can before the test reaches steady levels. Week 4ish I will switch over to a very clean bulk for another 10 weeks
14 weeks total 500mg/week

Do you guys have any advice other than "go back in time and dont do it"?

Tamoxifen (Novalgex) post a mild oral cycle: 40mg x 15 days + 20mg x 15 days or 20mg x 15 days + 10mg x 15 days? I found different answers for that in different places.

>>38947189
40/40/20/20

>>38947109
nah

she was particularly buttfrustrated today for some reason, she'll be back

>>38947176
So you have pre loaded syringes with needles pointing up ready to be fell on and you somehow managed to land the fall on the needle in your glutes?

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Hey /fraud/ is this girl good looking

>>38946384
Too insecure. She could do so much better for herself if she actually started liking what she saw in the mirror.

>>38947214
No.

>>38947201
Her and Mast would be cute

>>38947214
Yes, but not 10/10

>>38947194
Thx

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>>38947219

This is a qt.

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>>38947218
excuse me sir
you dropped this

>>38947214
very pretty imo, has big green eyes and good facial construction

>>38947219
your asian meanie is worse

>>38947211
I can be so careless sometimes

>>38947287
No way

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>>38947267

No tips from gentlesirs welcome.

>tattoo, she must be insecure

Like we're back in the 50s. That's the case for underaged kids doing it to stand out and some adults.

Others just like it.

Man bimbo what about your other past ladies? Are you really just downgrading consistently? Android 18 was a goddess I'd do horrible things to those hips

>>38947310
;^)

>>38947176
the two reasons to not blast/cycle as a fatty are
1) high levels of aromatization
2) shittier progress since you can't bulk as much (and if you do, you're just gonna get fatter than you already are)

you have #1 under control, presumably. #2 is gonna suck regardless, so keep your expectations low. waiting would have done you a lot more good but it's not gonna kill you.

>>38947310
Seconded

>tfw no cosplay qt gf
I just want to fuck tharja I'm a simple man with simple needs

>>38947303
the comment was pretty fedora but girls covered in tattoos are ALWAYS insecure/have huge daddy issues. bodymods/piercings only compound onto that

it's a simple fact of life

>>38947346
>tfw last 4 girlies cosplayed

>>38947368
Ffraaauk

Post pics bimbo fuel my rage at your priveledge

>>38947353

>it's a simple fact of life
>always

Something something absolutes.

More common maybe, definitely not all.

>>38946925

Elaborate?

I doubt you were able to squat 440 atg when you were natty

>>38947381
No lol they get posted on cgl still sometimes though.

Even my most recent ex has cosplayed poison ivy and rei

>>38947415
How will I tell which ones on Cgl got blessed by your dicking

What else have they Cosplayed

>>38947407

180kg at 78kg bw natty. 220kg or 215 when 75 on gear.

I had low T

Question:

Assuming I have a bunch of nolva on hand and don't feel like paying for an actual AI, do you think 10mg of nolva eod would be enough of an estrogen suppressor for a 60mg dbol frontload? Think I'd need 10mg ed at least? I am somewhat prone to dbol sides.

I realize this would vary from person to person. Just an estimate would be great.

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>>38947415

>rei

Asuka ftw. I think rei would get boring.

Unless I get limitless clones... Yumm...

>>38947467

Not sure how this would work since dbol converts to methylated estrogen. If it's the same as e2, go ahead.

>>38947484

>low tren therapy.

I have a case of low blood druggaz. Should I supplement with something?

>>38947494
>Honestly, fuck AI.
Why? I thought AIs were fine as long as you dial it in properly.

SERMs give me fucking weird brain fog. Currently on ralox and I feel kinda stupid.

>>38947494
Jesus, there's no way i'd need 40mg ED would I? That's PCT tier

I honestly thought I'd start with 10EOD and up if necessary. Anyone think that would most definitely be too low? Any more than that and I'd come up slightly short for my PCT so I might as well grab an AI.

>>38947471
Hate sex from a sassy bitch > wet blanket sex from an emotionless clone

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What symptoms do I need to share with my dr for a trenbolone prescription?

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>>38947524
try being cattle

Pinned 1g of test on my vein.

Feel like utter shit at work everything is aching after a super heavy back day and im short of breath


Kill me

>>38947546
Pretty sure that's selective breeding and/or myostatin inhibition, not tren.

>>38947320
honestly man I've been feeling like total ass lately, thought losing some weight would help but i dropped 50 pounds and feel just as shitty. I'm hoping it will just help me feel better and give me an energy boost. I'm not looking for crazy gains, just weight loss and maybe a bit of strength

>>38947520
Whew

>>38947597

>pinning test
>goal weight loss

Try dnp.

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>>38947610

He's not wrong.

>>38947633
No I totally agree

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>>38947647

>tfw you'll never get to fap over a comatose 14 year old tsundere.

Why even live

>>38947680
I see nipples

>>38947680
I'm not fucked up so I don't see the appeal

>>38947615
not a bad idea. Gonna see how I feel after 6 weeks. If test gets me out of this 5+ year long rut I've been in then I will cruise for life. The lethargy, oversleeping, lack of motivation, lack of sex drive, halfassed erections, and more are really impairing my ability to function as a normal human. I have tried like 5 different antidepressants over the past few years with no improvement, so I'm starting to think it might actually be my test. I was hit in the nuts a lot in middle school and desu senpai my left nut aint the same as my right nut...

>>38947723
You didn't see the movie I guess.

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>>38947723
>>38947692

Referencing something?

>>38947738
>>38947729
It's been a while alright

>>38947189
First we will look into the nolvadex, or tamoxifen dosage. The only FDA indicated reason a male would take tamoxifen is for gyno, and the recommended dosage is 10-20 mg ED. The FDA does however acknowledge an off label use for tamoxifen in males for infertility due to oligospermia, or low sperm count in ejaculate. The FDA even suggests that evidence favors efficacy. Ok great, at least know I have an idea where taking tamoxifen comes from. Standard dosages for women with breast cancer range from 10-20 mg tamoxifen ED, with up to 40 mg being the absolute max and high dose
I recommend no one go over 40 mg in one day
It is just not necessary, and will truly only cause more chances of side effects with no clinically significant or measurable improvement in your PCT being successful. I even believe 40 mg to be a high dose that is not needed. This is the reason that tamoxifen gets such a bad reputation; because we take it in such high dosages that our chances of side effects increases drastically.

Now we need to also consider the half life problem with tamoxifen. The half life varies from about 5-7 days, with most people falling closer to the 7 day mark. That means this drug takes a hell of a long time to reach peak blood levels. 5 weeks basically. Now the idea of frontloading the tamoxifen seems to come to mind to reach blood levels faster. However there is a large flaw in this plan. One part of the flaw is that in this case you will most likely just have worse side effects at the higher dosage, and make no improvement in your PCT. The other tremendous problem is that the active metabolite of tamoxifen, N-desmethyl tamoxifen (the actual drug metabolite you want in your body to act as a SERM and restart your testicles) has a half life of 14 days. So by frontloading the non-active tamoxifen, you still really aren’t giving your body much more of the active metabolite any faster.

My recommendation:Try 6-8 weeks on 20 mg ED tamoxifen for 5 month cycles and bnc.

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Sup guys, just got done injecting 250mg of test e into my left delt, I'm still shaking from it. Didn't feel anything. I was so excited when it came in the mail I just whipped out the alcohol swabs. Also no blood so I must've done good right coach?

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>4th day on dnp
>lost enough weight that I now have veins on forearms without pump

>tfw 30 degrees out
worst time of the year is upon us

I love going to the gym in literal freezing weather

>>38947932
stralia?

>>38947905
Welcome to /fraud/

>>38947710
If this shit feel I've had for so long is caused by low T, when might I feel better? Aka when are high-normal test levels reached?

>>38947944
nope, Canada

>>38947967
steroidcalc.com

>>38947988
Read this shit bro:
http://ironandtweed.com/my-low-t-journey-one-year-on-trt/

Also for your question I think it depends on the dose/ester. For test e I think it's around 3-4 weeks for the levels to reach steady state.

Okay I'd like to do roids now. My friend who did roids(idk what kind) says they will make your hair fall out. Is this true? Also are there any roids companies that will ship to Japan okay thanks.

>>38948196

www.google.com

Okbye.

>>38948196
>Hello, doctor? Yes I'll take one steroids please.

>>38948055
Well my situation sounds similar but who knows. I'm going to certainly find out soon enough. If it doesn't help lift the crippling lethargy, anhedonia, etc after then I will cycle off

>>38948249

Stop the trolling, everyone knows you need 3 full steroids and sometimes a half.

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I need to fix lat evenness.
Should I go heavier on the smaller side, or go lighter on the bigger side? And on which exercises?

Or should I change the number of reps? Anybody have any experience with this?
Pic related.

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>>38948283
Yeah man, I feel ya. I am so caught up in my head sometimes that I think the anhedonia/lethargy is just like a logical consequence of the way my life experiences have shaped me (i.e., how I see the world now - my personality).

It'd be a real trip if vitamin T changed that. A welcome change, maybe. But at the same time I also like who I am now.

What I liked about that article is the description of the sleep problem. My doc (I'm >>38946782) thinks that sleeping a lot (and that too like a zombie - hard to wake up) is a good thing, but I see it as probably the biggest cause of all the mental/energy sides of low test.

In my college days I could get by with 5 hours of sleep and feel great - not just on the odd day but consistently for months/years on end. It was associated with a period of great energy in my life.

Best of luck to you bro. What are your levels? Get bloods if you don't know. Age/height?

>match on tinder
>say hi
what went so wrong?

>>38948323
Asymmetrical insertions are pretty common and you'll see it a lot/noticeably in the lats and pecs.

>>38948323
Probably stretch your shoulders more. When youre pulling down one side is more forward than the other, this might cause an inbalance.

>>38948323
the size difference will get smaller and smaller as you progress since bigger muscles progress slower than small ones

>>38947310
Any more pics of 18?

>>38948371
Honestly I want to cycle anyway so I'm not getting bloods. I've ruled out every differential diagnosis I can think of. Since middle school I've been impossible to wake up, always late and absent. Someone has to get me up forcefully or I can't do it...If I wasn't forced awake I would sleep 12+ hours every day. I feel very burdened by everything, like everything is a task - geniune enjoyment is scarce. We've ruled out depression over the past few years and sleep apnea and hypothyroidism. I don't think I've ever had a hormone panel done. I brought it up with my doc who's pretty cool about stuff but he told me it's unlikely and he wants to rule out other things first. If I could get my drive back I would be so fucking happy...I don't want to keep living life like this.

>>38948493

This could still be other things including thyroid shit.

>>38948504
I know, but given the sexual symptoms I'm inclined to rule this out first, was planning to cycle no matter what.

>>38948504
What else would cause long term fatigue anhedonia hypersomnia sex issues etc...

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Friendly reminder that steroids should be legal for manlets. The fact that lanklets makes the decision for us to not be able to legally use it and compensate for our height is a discrimination against a minority.

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What do I need to take to reach this level in 6 weeks?

My current body is slightly better than the left

>>38948606
dnp

>>38947524
Thren is not approved for use in humans, only approved for cattle But you can buy it off ebay "for your herd" so whatever. Just look up Component TH.

How old are you bimbo?

>>38946333
What's a good, somewhat mild first cycle (well, in over 15 years anyway) for a 35 year old like me? I want about 15 lbs muscle gain.

>>38946507
Delete this abomination!

>>38948816
Reddit steroid wiki

500mg test E weekly + 20-30mg dbol daily

>>38946384
She dun goofed with those terrible tats

>>38948384
you being boring is where it all went wrong desu

>>38949055
man, fucking up from the start, that's new for me.

>>38948575
honestly tall people need roids a lot more than manlets. manlets put on mass a lot easier than tall people. it always makes me sad watching natty tall guys lift. there's this 6'4 guy at my gym who benches 3 plates but looks like he has never touched a weight in his life. like 11 inch biceps and I can't notice his chest at all through his gym shirt

manlets have it hard in life but it's really easy for them to look like they lift

>>38949085

Exactly, take bimbo for example

>>38948832
No.

>>38949124
Lol

>>38948956
And on such dose of dbol, given the half life would it make sense to take it pre workout and again 4 hours post workout?

I swear to god if you look at me like that again I'll wring your fuckin neck.

But to me it seems like the timing of dbol dosing could be pivotal in determining efficacious use of it.

I suppose I should put a smiley in here somewhere :)

>>38949124
for bimbo it's intentional. the parts he works are huge, he just doesn't work core for some reason because he thinks it looks better

I think it looks odd but who am I to judge

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Fuck sake I think I need to see a doctor to diagnose this arm aids.

Thing is how good a response will I get if he doesn't know I'm injecting bathtub chemicals into myself?

I'll use some antifungal first and hope for best.

>>38949161

Is it a rash or is there no texture difference? Warm to the touch?

>>38949161
how much of a hypochondriac were you before roids?

totally random question

>>38949161

what happened? what did you do this time?!

>>38949161
I think the bigger issue is how much you talk like a big boy but those are your tris..

I think your gear is bunk or underdosed.

>>38949161
Looks like the year for you to have no gains.

>>38949182
No temperature difference, bumpy, itched upon waking up.

Showed up sometime second week, just a few red bumps, thought maybe a spider raped me in my sleep.

Now there's more.

So I've ran Dbol before and I get it makes you retain water weight but can someone explain how I went up 15lb in 4 days on 60mg? Last time I tried it my results were nowhere near that drastic.

>>38949210

Could it be acne that localized around the injection site? Maybe some androgens leaked out.

Not sure if this is possible with anabolics, just throwing stuff out there.

>>38949236
dude he didn't inject into his arm

>>38949185
Not at all.
But being as I'm injecting chems I'm more apprehensive.
>>38949193
Never acted like my arms were anything but shit, but a bit early to say my gear is bunk as I'm pinning for the 6th time tomorrow.
>>38949207
Might as well neck myself is what you're saying.
>>38949188
Well I sure as shit didn't pin my tris.

>>38949210
>>38949236

Did... did you pin your triceps? If it was an infection it should definitely be around the injection site. If not its probably a rash of some sort caused by god knows what.

>>38949161
I'm telling you it's 75%+ hives from some impurity. Also dyel/dyer?

>>38949247
bedbugs u dirty fuck

literally stealing your gains

>>38949236
My fear is that it is some sort of plaque acne forming, but if that was the case I figure my preexisting bacne would have gotten worse first, and I only pin quads which are fine.

>>38949240
Kek, last week some anon was trying to talk me into tricep injections for some dumbfuck reason.

>>38949287

lmao figured you pinned there or something since you were freaking out about it.

Assuming it's related to the roids then maybe a blood clot or some type of auto immune reaction? I would go to a doctor honestly.

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>>38949254
Definitely not.
Plus it doesn't burn like I figure an infection would.
>>38949267
Most of my lifting has been strength stuff, my arms are disproportionately small to my core.

It's a focus point for my cycle, along with trying to swell chest.

Here's a recent pic.

>>38949279
Bedbugs wouldn't stop at one spot on my arm.

>>38949370
Why are you refusing to accept that it's probably hives?

>>38947320
Well I pinned 500mg test e today as my first cycle ever and started some dnp...gonna go 14-21 days on the dnp and 250mg test e e3d...I'm like fatlifts reincarnated

>>38949427
ya and fatlifts never started looking good

(sorry fl, have some jbs for your gf)

>>38949427
I mean...I am like less than 25 pounds overweight. He was a literal hamplanet. I think I'm much better off from the get go here.

>>38949311
Being as the consensus here is to not tell doctors we pin I wonder how useful his misinformed conjecture will be.
>>38949404
Apologies anon, not ignoring you just amassing as much as I can.
Plus I Google imaged hives and I'm freaking out.

Btw what happened to anon who had an infection last week?

>>38949444
Yooo

How do you stop dht levels from building up? What about without a blocker.
Also what blocker do you recommend,m

>>38949161
LISTEN FAGGOT ITS HIVES I GOT THE SAME THING ON MY SECOND CYCLE OF DNP USE BENADRYL NIGGER THAT IS ALL

>>38949492
Not necessarily for you but for everyone in general...the authority followed in hospitals, pharmacy, even take home injections is according to USP 797

For actual pharmaceutical grade FDA approved GMP dictated multi dose vials:

In addition, the United States Pharmacopeia (USP) General Chapter 797 [16] recommends the following for multi-dose vials of sterile pharmaceuticals:
If a multi-dose has been opened or accessed (e.g., needle-punctured) the vial should be dated and discarded within 28 days unless the manufacturer specifies a different (shorter or longer) date for that opened vial.

I bet all u fags have nasty ass bacteria growing in your old ass vials and you're giving it a nice access point free of immune defenses with your IM injections.

It's not worth the 10-15 bucks worth of test - toss the vial after a month if you punctured it.

>>38949536
Literally there is a drug class called 5-dht blockers

finasteride 0.5-1mg/day has been shown to significantly reduce 5dht

>>38949161
I think the other anons are right, that looks like a mild allergic reaction.

That said if you do go to the doctor, just say you self administered b12. It's IM and legal OTC

Starting my first ever cycle the 15th. Any advice for a former fatty?

>>38949617
stock up on ai, you're gonna need it

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>>38949555
O..okay

>>38949627
Anti inflammatories?

have low test, wanna just boost it up a bit.

150lb male, where do i start

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>>38949571
One vial should last me 5 weeks but honestly I think I have some loss in my first vial.

That said what's the ideal storage for a punctured vial?

The cabinet over my toilet no good due to poo particles?

>>38949644
may wanna delay your cycle, friend

Any one else have small dick problem after cycle?

>>38949492
It was way different than that picture you showed and I could tell right away something had gone wrong.

Fever, couldn't walk my glute was so inflamed, hot to the touch, swollen as fuck, started going red the last day before antibiotics.

It's cleared up pretty well now. Still trying to determine if I have an abscess or the muscle is just a little swollen still, but that's about the extent of the damage. Couple more days antibiotics to go.

Emailed the source about it, he said it was concerning but has no idea how it happened and has yet to hear of anyone else having an issue, and he's pretty popular on leddit so something would have got out if this was a real issue with sterilization. No clue how this shit happened, followed sterile procedure to the letter, and two sperate infections.

Stay safe kiddos

>>38949702
I didn't write that but I still don't know what ai is. Red pill me

>>38949721
Artificial insemination

>>38949690
Store punctured vials in a new ziplock bag or prescription bottle. Just something that closes. Always remember to swab vial before drawing up and injection site before pinning. I also recommend a fresh needle for pinning because theyre cheap as fuck. Don't forget to minimize the air bubbles and select the right injection site for needle length and volume of injection.

Taco Bell or Walmart where do I go for Imfuckingstarvingandnothingsopen feels?

>>38949718
Did you follow USP 797 28 day rule?
You think the vial had bacterial growth? Ask the source how he filters his final product he should be using a .22 micron filter in a laminar flow hood.
even with perfect procedures a small number of ppl will develop infection...pretty rare tho

>>38949718
How far into cycle were you?
Still pinning and/or training?

>>38949745
I always swab the vial and myself.
Haven't put the vial in Ziploc though.

>>38949718
How many times had you drawn from that particular vial? How long since the first crack? Small amounts of bacteria can get inside and grow if there is no preservative in the oil, thats why u supposed to toss the vial after a month of puncture
What other medications do you take?

When do you take creatine? Just before each workout, every day, or.... ?

>>38949871
>asking about creatine in /fraud/
I see you got memed

creatine isn't a pwo or anything. you need to saturate your body with it so you just take it every day, 5mg. you can do 10mg for a couple weeks as a loading phase but that's pretty memey

>>38949871
lol

>>38949811
I would really recommend putting it in a container but im kind of ocd about infction if u cant tell form my posting. Also I highly recommend everyone hit up an online pharmacy for just-in-case antibiotics. by the time infection gets bad enough for you to call doctor you are probably already risking abcess, esp you stubborn ass meat heads "oh its just pip" dont be dumb. Bactrim or Augmentin have the best coverage for this type of infection and the earlier you treat it the less likely you'll end up with the complications of an abcess

why is it easier, quicker, and with better customer service to buy roids than most shit on the internet, honestly.

>>38949880
There wasn't a proper thread up for it, so I guess that /fraud/ was the least wrong place, memes or no memes.

Don't you mean g, and not mg?

>>38949919
no one gives a shit retard fuck off

>>38949917
Nigga u gotta get on that amazon prime. I did a complete PC rebuild overnight - ordered around 8pm got my shit the next morning at 11am had it up and running by 1. Yes, i came

>>38949938
literally 75% of the time i use that next day delivery shit, they say the address is invalid or some bullshit because the minimum wage driver is too braindead to find my house, and the delivery winds up taking several days

baka famalam...i dole out free grade A up to date medical advice tailored specifically to /frauds/ and not a single response.

>>38949948
they're 4-0 on my orders man...put an address on your house and move to a real city

>>38949919
yes. force of habit from being in a thread where everything is calculated in mg

questions like this go in QTDDTOTs btw

>>38949969
no one else has a problem with delivering shit, even fast food delivery drivers like pizza or chinese. only that amazon next-day bullshit

>>38949798
>USP 797 28 day rule
I googled breifly, does this mean the vial was used less than 28 days after puncture? If so, yes.

>Ask the source how he filters his final product he should be using a .22 micron filter in a laminar flow hood
Ok

>>38949811
>How far into cycle were you?
Literally my second injection.

>Still pinning and/or training?
Yeah. I tossed the vial and have been using a different one from the same source due to recklessness and miserliness.

Came down with a fucking cold from roommates a couple days ago and haven't been able to eat so training has been shit. I got one Ok-at-best upper body day on Sunday. I tried today but too weak from illness and lack of food. Should be good to go tomorrow if nothing else goes fucking wrong.

>>38949823
Was my second time pinning. Other meds would be exemestane and isotretinoin, and I believe my e2 was pretty crashed so those two very well might have played a part, but really I doubt it.

>>38949988
Yeah man that makes me want to point finger at source also. Was it DML? cause I just pinned 2ml into my quad lol

Also I doubt the source is using that equipment - the hood is huge and expensive and u prob need a chemical license to buy it

>>38950020
Nah, Freedom.

Dude has people posting their bloods constantly though, if his sterilization is bad you'd think I wouldn't be the only one.

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Is it easy to get a test prescription from the doc even if you don't look like you need it and you have a beard and masculine features?

>>38950147
no, it's incredibly hard to nearly impossible depending on where you live

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>>38950147
dont be a pussy

>>38950270
>turn the brightness up until all the skin imperfections disappear

>>38950147
Lol you could claim a recent trauma to the balls and since then you're sex drive went to shit along with other low test sides, doc will be very hesistant unless you can show bloods with low test and high LH/FSH(very hard to replicate). If you look really big they might even suspect you just came off a cycle if they find low test.

>>38949988
Poor guy, hope gains will start coming to you soon.

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>>38950326
>skin imperfections
freckles are not imperfections, mister

>>38949161
That's an allergic reaction to something. Maybe your roids but maybe something else like a soap or Sth. Try to find the cause.

>>38950147
That's a dude.
>>38950352
Kind of are though.

>>38950393
Yeah, I know. Just a random pic.

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>>38950393
>Kind of are though.
more for me

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>>38950393
What's wrong with freckles?

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>>38950430
>>38950467
I've got freckles too. Still an imperfection.
That being said, sometimes it's the imperfections that make something more beautiful.
Like veins in marble, or a beauty mark.

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dead thread

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Dbol is here.

Worth running test at 750-800 + ai instead of 500 + ai? I've done 500 before as well as tren before. Wanted to keep it simple this time.

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>>38948493
>>38948560
>What else would cause long term fatigue anhedonia hypersomnia sex issues etc...

Pituitary tumor. Thyroid issues (as mentioned earlier). GnRH problems @ the hypothalamus. Lots of things. And this is for low T. Who knows what your actual condition is if you don't have bloods???

You say:
>I've ruled out every differential diagnosis I can think of.

But you haven't. You can't have, unless you did pre-cycle bloods.

Why does this matter? Because you can treat the underlying cause (if it is something other than hypogonadism as noted above) instead of just going on needless TRT. I'm not bashing TRT, it's just not the only solution to the entire of low T patients (who have low T due to the aforementioned alternate causes).

Also, you could look into HCG if you want to test the waters. But sounds like you've already decided what you want to do, which is fine.

It kinda sounds like you're already on cycle or something. Good luck - I really do hope it helps. If you're indeed going to cycle and do PCT (lel) then you should do a hormone panel after your PCT to see your natty levels (you should do this anyways in a PCT, I'm just suggesting doing one once the Clomid is out of your system).

>>38950735
>Its the apple shitters are salty episode
iPhones are kinda shit, and have been that way for a while now. Just accept it.

>>38949721
anal insertions

Anymore legit DNP sources you guys can steer me towards? I bought from YB a few years ago but I sent him a few emails and no replies. I guess all the DNP general threads are kill

>>38950735

i don't understand why ppl don't get precycle bloods. it's not that expensive and the knowledge is certainly worth it. if you live somewhere where it's difficult / impossible to get them then yeah i can understand, but if not just get the damn bloodwork.

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>>38950020
>cause I just pinned 2ml into my quad lol
Fuck man don't put doubts into my mind about him. Only one I've found with Undecanoate so I'm "stuck" w/him lol.

>>38950147
I have a beard and masculine features. But I also had bloods like this:
>>38950329
>low test and high LH/FSH(very hard to replicate)

Didn't have free test the first time but just got that done. You can be low test in later years even if you had decent test in your adolescence (which is when most features/beards form and develop).

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>>38950826
Exactly! I can only imagine it being prohibitive if you live out in the boonies or a 3rd world rural town.

>>38950775
No argument there lol. Never touched Apple since the 1st gen iPod touch. Android caught up and surpassed iOS pretty quick, by my estimation.

The pic is funny though lol.

>>38950734
>2592x4608
also, 750

>>38950825
bls resbond

>>38950837
Yeah I'm just saying in primary htpogonadism a dr will expect a high LH in response.

http://www.linear-software.com/online.html
is there an actual caliper calculator website that works for bf%?

this is complete bullshit, telling me i am 4% while my abs are barely visible

>>38950887
Any explanation or reasoning? Sorry I uploaded straight from my phone, forgot about that.

>>38950913
I agree with you. That's what I had and the doc agrees that it's probably primary hypogonadism.

>>38950945
More reasoning than more test, more gains?

Most peoples' test levels scale pretty well with test levels above 500. Also depends what your goals are like. And what your training is like. You might get more sides than benefits at high doses if you aren't training particularly hard.

Though I'd imagine blasting high doses would just amplify any and all gains, even if you are just doing moderate training.

>>38950985
Just mass and size (muscle mass)atm, going to to try and plow through potato, sweet potato, rice, lean meats and fruit and vege. Wondering if it was diminishing returns, if I take the lgd it should mean more free test from less shbg too.

Fist time pinning quads grazed a nerve. Second time pinning quads now was still being a pussy abit and didn't go as deep as I should.

Im just gonna pin other body parts.

How does everyone feel about chest, trap, or lat pinning?

>>38951038
>pinning traps
Talk to Jerry

>>38951038
I've done delts but it's a pita reaching around with one hand. And I ended up getting a small shingles out break not far from injection site after I came off months later. Quickly contained. No face/back/or blindness though thank God.

(I was purposely exposed to chicken pox as a child rather than that specific vaccine meaning I forever have the dormant virus which can potentially result in shingles).

>>38951207
What. The. Fuck.

>>38951207
Delts are nice but I gotta cycle spots or else I might die.

>>38951252
What? It must have triggered the dormant virus at some point. It was after test and tren e

27 and I have pedal edema and new onset right axis deviation on my ECG since I started frauding barely a year ago. Nurse friend thinks it's early CHF, I'll find out in a few weeks. Pedal edema began after like 5 months and I stupidly ignored it.

>frauding for this

Please don't just disregard my post because I'm ignorant but I've been liften for 6 years and I was injured severely and could not lift and lost all my gains. I'm recovered now and would like to hop on gear, what would you recommend? I'd rather poke than to orals because I don't imagine my liver is the best after all those painkillers. Any info you have really is appreciated.

>>38951535
Is CHF a peaceful death or what?

Personally hoping for a stroke or aneurism to kill me, seems like the best way to go. High BP ftw.

>>38951597
Reddit steroids

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>3k TDEE
>upped my blast to 3 grams a week
>am now bulking at 4500-5000 calories 500-600g protein a day
>still not satisfied

help me ive lost control of my life

>>38951610
Bruh just blast 500-700/week year round test. Add tren or masT every once in a while to spice things up. You'll get better results than the diminishing returns 3g is gonna net you.

>>38951600
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heart_failure#Prognosis
Probably would slowly get worse over time with diminishing quality of life, if it is indeed CHF

>>38951600
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heart_failure#Prognosis

>Heart failure is associated with significantly reduced physical and mental health, resulting in a markedly decreased quality of life.[80][81] With the exception of heart failure caused by reversible conditions, the condition usually worsens with time. Although some people survive many years, progressive disease is associated with an overall annual mortality rate of 10%.[82]

>Approximately 18 of every 1000 persons will experience an ischemic stroke during the first year after diagnosis of HF. As the duration of follow-up increases, the stroke rate rises to nearly 50 strokes per 1000 cases of HF by 5 years.


Probably would slowly get worse over time with diminishing quality of life, if it is indeed CHF

Nolva vs Arimidex? My supplier can't get a hold of any Arimidex atm but he does have Nolva. What are they like compared to each other?

I haven't tried Arimidex anyway though so I'm guessing I could just try out Nolva and see how it goes.

>>38951610
RIP endocrine system

>>38951674
Arimidex or aromasin is leagues better. They actually reduce estrogen levels in your blood. Nolva just prevents certain estrogen side effects.

Its like washing a car vs spray painting over the dirt.

tren is on it's way bruh
-royal mail

thanks postie :^)

>>38951743
Okay cool, thanks.

>>38952130
I have both my supplier accidentally sent me arimidex instead of my dbol, I ain't mad tho I didn't even want dbol I just added because, fuck it. And thank god that happened since I had no ai, I thought I had some but it was just a fuckton of nolva. Tybg for lookin out for me

>>38951633
>>38951683
>>38951610

you realize this is that fucking retard who is on his first blast using 3 grams of gear and is eating low carbs on his "bulk" because "i want to gain MUSCLE, not BLOAT"?

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>>38952244

>>38950825

Grab my email for general shit like this.

I don't deal in anything, I just wanted Degeneratelabs at Google mail registered.

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>>38952244
Do pro bodybuilders even use 3g of a single type of gear weekly and eat upwards 500g of protein a day?

Also did anyone else watch Luke Cage?
I liked it.
Couldn't help but notice Mike Colter had a weird aesthetic to his torso.

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tips to reduce appetite?

>>38952534
sounded too BLM/SJWy for me, just like that other Marvel Netflix show Jessica Jones

apparently there's even a police brutality plot line. terrible.

>>38952551
EC stack.

So, I'm ready to start my first cycle.

I ordered 2 10ml vials of Testosterone Enanthate 300mg/ml, 100 pills of Letrozole @ 2.5mg/pill, 50 pills of Clomiphene @ 50mg/pill.

Does anyone have any experience iwth that?

>>38952573
Bleh.
My personal prejudices and bigotry take a back seat to my need for manchild escapism.

And the police brutality was a black cop on a young dindu who wouldn't sell out Cage.

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>>38952534

Does this guy look like he takes 500mg test 250deca a week and only 250g protein?

>>38952578
Why letro and not adex or asin

>>38952645
holy fuck that guys arm is wider than her torso. got a video link?

>>38952678
Because it's the only AI my supplier had.

That said, is Clomid enough for PCT? Or do I absolutely have to have Nolvadex?

>>38952755
Same question here but switched around, only have nolva and Adex

>>38952768
Where are you located?

>>38951535

What were you taking and what's your lifestyle like.

>>38952755
•___•

Why.....

>>38952801
Maybe we can trade roids.

>>38952812
Colorado my g

>>38952828
ah lel. I'm in JEwrop.

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>>38952838
Maybe in the next life my brother ;__;

>>38952645
Fucking weird abs.

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Can you open glass vial and just shot half of it and keep the rest of it for the next week?

Will the Test be okay?

>>38952933
Abs like that are my biggest fit-related fear (other than roid induced baldness or heart attack)

>>38952785
Was on Test and deca about 700/700 when it started

First blast went well so I added in deca after 12? weeks and slowly tapered the dose up, ended it at 27 or 28 weeks because the edema showed up

As far as lifestyle? Not 100% sure what you're asking, but I wasn't doing much cardio or eating extremely clean I guess. I took steroids and lifted a lot?

>>38952951
put some cling film over it first bro

>>38953329
>First blast went well so I added in deca after 12? weeks and slowly tapered the dose up, ended it at 27 or 28 weeks because the edema showed up
Jesus fucking Christ

Hey fraudbras, from 1 to 10 how would you rate your life since starting taking hormones? Has your quality of life improved? Would you recommend using hormones (B&C)? Do you regret it?

>>38953329
Lifestyle as in cardio, diet, sleep patterns, smoking, stress, obesity, alcohol and drug use.

Do you have any other symptoms of CHF? Like shortness of breath, fainting, chest pain?

>>38953607
eight something

>>38953607

I'd rate mine as going from a 6 to an 8.5.

Pretty much every aspect of life has improved.

>>38953692
>>38953719
Thanks for the answers :)

>>38953719

In what ways has your life improved?

>>38953378

To any newbies reading this: don't do what this guy did please.

>>38953607
Liftan probably made it an 8. Roids maybe an 8.5.

>>38946694
HCG isnt expensive...? Lol

>>38947109
Who is ESTP?

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>>38953846
resident gains goblin

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>>38953846
ESTP is illegal drug which was banned not long time ago.

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>>38952951
thats like 1ml?
just shoot all senpai

>>38952951
draw half of it in one syringe, pin it. draw the other half in another, save it

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>>38953954
easy way for infection

>>38953989
how so?

>>38953989
how so?

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>>38954003
>>38954004
greatest minds work the same

Can GH cause heart palps?

>>38954025
this dicc can

>>38953989
preloaded syringes now cause infections?

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Is there a way to use half an ampoule and save the other half for another time without getting some sort of infection?

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>>38954036
I am not gonna do it
You can do it
I am not doctor, but I would imply that the chances for infection would be higher when u preload it and let it sleep there for a while than take str8 from vial
>>38954016
lol

>>38950735
Those conditions are so rare though and the treatments are worse. I'll get bloods after pct for sure but damn man I don't even wanna know if I have a tumor

>>38954067
You get sterile luer lock stoppers that could probably be used. Get all the air out of the syringe then attach the sterile stopper. I use them in hospital for pre-preparing shots.
I wouldn't leave a needle+cap on it and expect it to act as a sterile barrier.

>>38953681
>cardio, diet
See other post--not enough cardio, diet can get pretty shitty

>sleep patterns, stress
I work long, stressful overnight shifts. Sleep patterns are pretty bad. Always stressed.

>smoking, alcohol and drug use
None.

>obesity
I'm no more than 16% bodyfat but I weigh like 227. Was 215 and a lot leaner but I recently ballooned up due to stress, poor diet, and not working out.

>shortness of breath, chest pain, fainting?
Maybe some shortness of breath, but I still get through HIIT, LISS, and other intense workouts. I'm not sure if it's related to my edema or the fact that I weigh almost 230 and I can never breathe through my nose. No chest pain or fainting.

>>38953787
Yeah. Seems like people advocate/do much dumber shit all the time, didn't think I would be "that guy" but look at me now

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Pinning delt for the first time lads. I'm scared.

I only have 21gauge 0.80x40 needles at home. How deep should I push it into my shoulder? Half-way in?

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>>38954261
why would you do that to urself

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>>38954278
too thick? i mean the needle

>>38954261
straight to a hunna my nigga

>>38954184
Will also help filter the glass out. You should draw with a filter needle if you're using an ampule

>>38954233
>blasting for 6 months
you are that guy

>>38954261
depends on the size of your muscle but 0.8" should go all the way in or about 3/4ths of the way

why delts tho? and more importantly, why the fuck are you using 21gs for delts (or at all)

>>38954570
>why delts tho?
because ass hurts as fuck, can't relax it
>why the fuck are you using 21gs
they don't look that bad imo

>learn tobacco is a aromatase inhibitor
>use this knowledge as an excuse to start dipping
just fuck my shit up senpai

>>38954612
Are you sure you don't have to smoke it?

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Currently on 600mg test e 500mg deca and got puffy nips
Should 20mg tamoxifen ed do the Trick to get them back on normal Size ? No Lactating or itchy just puffy

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Kek that post from ESTP. Why is she now acting like a cornered animal all of the sudden. I thought you didn't gave a fuck about anything? Guess we all have our weakness in life.

Get your shit together. You can still change shit around. Stop your whoring career and don't ever tell a man you were a whore.

AND GET BIG AND MONEY

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almost 20 weeks on mast-e. Started with 1ml now I am on 2ml.

I can't stop taking it anymore. Can i cruise on it on 1ml? Or will i die and you guiyz will have your fun.

>>38954630
Yeah it doesn't have to be smoked

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>>38954585
>ass hurts as fuck, can't relax it
Have your tired pinning lying down?

>>38954710
Plz don't die masT you're my favorite trip. You give me inspiration

>>38954920
Agreed.
If I had the genes to look like he did natty, I never would have roided. Lol

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>>38954382
Not enough people know this.

>>38954710

>>38954920
THIS

Don't die, you're the best thing that ever happened to this board, I don't even read /fraud/s if there's no results to ctrl+f -> mast

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>>38954643
Bump

>>38950735
>Tfw have low t from thyroid issues
>on meds but still low bloods
Now what

anyone else here gonna make themselves taller with 3d printed bones? I'm gonna make my spine 6 inches longer, my shins 3 inches longer and my femurs 1 inch longer, this will make me go from 5'6 to 6'4

how much does a basic cycle cost per week?

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>>38955503
dont do roidz if u cant do basic math
we dont need more "steroids caused anon's death" news

>>38955503
125mg test and 400mg deca is like 91usd for 20 weeks

>>38955269
Roid. You levels aren't going to get any more fucked.
>>38955486
Same going to shoot for 7'1"

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>>38955534
pct?
ai?
syringes and needles?

>>38955503
The amount of food will cost you more.

>>38955619
>pct
ai and caber might not even be needed
syringes and needles are cheap af

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>>38954643
Bump

>>38954206
>>obesity
>I weigh almost 230 and I can never breathe through my nose.

>cardio, diet
See other post--not enough cardio, diet can get pretty shitty

guess what you were probably gonna have a fucking heart attack even without gear

what would make a FAT ASS RETARD think it's a good idea to blast gear for fucking 7 months straight, while being obese, while eating like shit? like really?

>>38954479
it's not even the 6 months mainly read his post...

he did for 6 months, WHILE BEING OBESE AND EATING LIKE SHIT WITH NO CARDIO...................................

>>38955907

I'm sorry you're getting roasted OP, but please come back and update when they figure out what's up.

If I start a test e cycle, will I be more likely to jump into meme stocks I read on /biz/?

>>38956108
no steroids make you stupid

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>just at the gym
>two new dyels tough guys with tattoo's appeared
>''shit man, i thought i was the biggest around here, until i saw this guy''
>''unfortunately , someone had to be the best. Don't forget to be yourself''
>they just can't comprehend what just happend to them and just blank stare each other for 10 seconds.
Irl trolls are even better than over here

>>38954920
WE ELL GONNA MAKE IT. Just hold on to that thought, be me, me yourself.

Be the best you can be in life. Be proud of yourself. Inspire yourself

>>38954958
You can still believe in yourself if everything else fails.

Trust me, i have done it many times and it always worked.

the accutane memeeee
>don't lose any hair at all on test, tren, and dbol

>later on add some accutane

>>>>>hair starts shedding like fuck (telogen effluvium apparently, even my eyelashes were falling out)
>stopped accutane after a few months, shedding stopped within 2 weeks
>hair is now thin as hell, starting to grow back though while still on tren

whatever it's worth it, since now i have wayyyy less acne than before, almost non existent

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>>38955907
>what would make a FAT ASS RETARD think it's a good idea to blast gear for fucking 7 months straight, while being obese, while eating like shit? like really?
Seriously, i can't even.

How can you faggots look at yourself in the mirror and still keep living.

Do you think this is some kind of game. Get your ass on a diet. Get the best results you always dreamed of. Get everyone jelly when they see you. Lazy piece of faggots

>>38956373
>Get everyone jelly when they see you.
ugh don't remind me.

by far the most jealous people are my family since they are all fat fucks who "just can't lose weight"...

i was fat like them too from when i was a kid, but since i actually have a brain i lost it on my own by the time i was 15, all the while being called "wasting away" and "anorexic" and they were threatening to "take me to a mental hospital and put me on an IV"

it's disgusting honestly

it's only getting worse as i gain more and more muscle and get more shredded.

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>>38956373
>tfw this surgery has me looking awful
I was planning on blasting afterwards but Im worse now than I was before my pmsf.
I hope this sorts itself out because im blasting afterthis anyways, Im too flat rn

Wife found a needle wrapper, I explained everything. She wasn't anywhere near as mad as I thought she would be, however....
Now she wants me to go spend hundreds to go to a hormone clinic. I'm in the middle of a blast and I have like 15 vials of Test E already.

Can anyone give me any insight on what I should do? Should I just schedule an apointment for like ~20 days after my last pin? How will they react to my other numbers being out of whack?

Literally my goal is to just have them write me a script and I'll have the occasional vial of pharma test. I'll continue to use my UGL shit and I just need my wife off my back.

>>38956419
>pmsf.
> Im too flat rn
hate this shit, i lose like 1.5 inches off my arms as soon as i start a psmf and get depleted...

>>38956421
I don't get it. Why does she want you to go to a clinic?

>>38956446
Right?
I mean im not doing it now, Im eating horribly and am on bedrest, but thats why i started adding adrol to my pmsf
Keeps me looking fuller

>>38955503
Mine cost me 400 euro including 100 syringes 200 needles a 16 weeks cycle of test and EQ, AI and enough SERMS for PCT and on cycle should I have needed it.
>>38956332
At least telogen effluvium means it'll grow back. Better then steroid induced alopecia androgenetica. Its a slippery slope from those first hairs that start shedding.

>>38956295
>''unfortunately , someone had to be the best. Don't forget to be yourself''
lmao

>>38956416
Welcome to my life. Even my family envy me. It's survival of the fittest. Born alone, die alone. Nobody gives a shit about you. Everyone wants to see you fail.

But that feeling will makes you stronger. Seeing and knowing that they're envy is the best feeling i can think of. Better than smoking crack while getting pegged by a bald transsexual.

>>38956419
Hey Jerry, my friend. How are you now? How do you feel atm?

What are you blasting plans? Up the dose already. Less taking more pinning.