/fraud/

>>38930833

wtf are you even saying.
Your doctors put you on testosterone right?

well tell him hes a fucking retard and your levels will drop right back to normal after you come off.

Hopping on soon boys, but need to cut first

Should I start cruising immediately while cutting then blast, or cut natty and blast when I'm done?

Cycling is for schmucks

>>38931026
>steroids
LOL, fags

In the New Order, when based Admin makes his Austerity changes to 4chan, /fraud/sters will be AUTOMATICALLY BANNED and reported to the FBI so he can gain the reward money. Better flush your shit down the shitter, /fraud/fags, they're coming for you.

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Found ESTP at work.

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>>38931210
We all live in Thailand so everything's legal

Besides, nobody actually discusses steroids here

It's just blogging with the occasional question about usage that goes completely unanswered

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achievable natty?

>>38931054
The only reason to cruise is to keep your levels up, why the fuck would you cruise when you already have perfectly fine levels. Fuck you are dumb.

>>38931273
no zac zeiler is definetly on roids he had cancer and I'm pretty sure that they give you roids then

>>38931274
Got some roid rage there friendo? :^)

Levels are shit, and a 250 cruise puts you way over natty levels anyway

>>38931274
the idea behind BnC is to avoid the horror of Pct, not because someone is low T

faggot

>>38931273
Yes, with Photoshop

It is possible oral steroids, for example tbol, can cause you gastric issues as puking?

>>38931606
Doesn't seem particularly likely, iirc most oral steroids are pretty easy on your stomach.
of course I've also heard of people trying to pass off caffeine+pain fillers as Tbol, so who knows.

Did you take it on an empty stomach?

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>>38931606
>tbol

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>>38931682
y?

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>>38931901

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>>38931919

>>38931662
Take it as pwo with some carbs.. i've tried other orals before but none caused me heartburn and yesterday puking too

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All of my test cyp is crystallized. Fuck this is annoying.

>>38931901
Mirin quads. I guess they help to push his dick and balls forward too.

>>38931990
big legs with boxer briefs and balls and dick in front of legs create a nice bulge. it is objectively the most comfortable placement too

>>38931964
I just googled it, apparently some people have more problems with it then others. Try splitting up the dosage or upping your water intake.

I'd think about dropping it completely if it's causing vomiting. Can't make gains, if you can't keep your good down.

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Fuck. I think some of the oil leaked out of my quad after I pulled the needle.

That means I should pin more like a true alpha right? Maybe .2ml subq into muh stomach.

Can good drugs make up for sleep? I'm planning on doing cardio in the morning, and lifting at night. Test will let me do that right? Also some mk773 for dat dere connective tissue. Basically will the sterons let me recover better with less sleep?

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>>38932383

>>38932383

No it just means you need to use the 'Z track method'. Its only done with large dose IMI.

>>38932396
they will make your body recover better but not your brain. sleep anon

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>>38932427
I do z-track. It came out the same time I pulled the needle. I airlock with .2ml too.

>>38932396
Why aren't you getting the sleep?

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Has any tried pinning cardiac tissue? I have a cc of tren that I really want to try it with. And tips on no going too deep? Also, I think there are veins like on the surface of the heart, any pointers on how to avoid? Thanks

>tfw no phat booty slut to hatefuck on diddylift day
Estp you bitch

>>38932595
It's hard to psyche yourself up to stab yourself through the chest. I recommend setting the pin down, then throwing yourself on it. By the time you have second thoughts it to late.

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when should i take asin?

e3d or eod?

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>>38932783
>2019
>not taking asians every other day

>>38932783
as often as possible

>>38932797
I will take them hourly please

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>>38932897
bimbo is alive!
got sum sleep in?

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>>38932897
Gotcha beat there. I'm on a 24/7 IV drip of aromasin to keep these blood levels stable.

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>>38931026
Maybe if we offer her heroin she will come back?

Going on a dbol cycle soon. I plan on going 40 mg per day for 50 days. My question is do you think i should split it 3-4 times during the day or is 2 times enough?

I predict ESTP is busy fucking notfbf and then being rejected by him for being a stupid whore. Well, no shit.

>>38932448
>>38932577
I have to wake up around 4:30 so I can be fully awake when the markets open. Doing cardio is just a convenience. My other option is to move to Chicago.

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>>38932936
did you forgot 'only' word somewhere there?
I hope not

>>38933006
go to sleep earlier or move

>>38933040
You're sentence doesn't make sense, faggot. And that's coming from a Swede.

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>>38933006
You could take modafinil but not getting enough sleep is going to catch up with you eventually. I have to get up at 0200 but I get to bed super early, really there is no complete replacement for sleep.

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Why do all these steroid threads always start with pictures of SpringbokASMR

>>38933144
>SpringbokASMR
Good one, kek

>>38933126
jo det gör den. det han menar är att han hoppas att du inte bara ska köra dbol, utan att du ska köra test med dbol

>>38932822
>>38932797

can i just get a straight answer to my question instead of retarded ones.

eod or e3d

>>38933241
do you seriously not understand what i meant when i said to take it as often as possible?

>>38933241
Up the dose faggot

>>38933241
take it everyday

>>38933241
typical advice on reddit is usually 12.5mg E3D and then if you still get high estrogen symptoms try 12.5mg EOD and so on

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I want to see if my test levels are low to see if I should hop on. Do I need free test also or just total test? LH and estradiol are included with total but not free test.

>>38933251
i did, but it would be a clusterfuck.

i want to take 10mg (1 tab) a week. doing 5mg eo3 is possible, everything else is kinda clusterfucky ya know

>>38933337
just split it into 4 pieces and take it 4 times a week it doesn't have to be that precise

>>38933337
10 mg per week isnt going to do anything at all
might as well just not take anything

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>>38933364
But if you dont take anything at all you might become next hungry skeleton, haha, get it

>>38933404
what does xyloid mean?

>>38933364

its just for 250mg test, why would that not work? its in your body and doing its job, wether it has a low impact or not .

low test, low asin.
i feel like ill crash my estro if i take 20mg per week

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>>38931210
You sure told them anon.

Except your Albanian messiah is an attention whore and isn't going to change shit because nothing is going to change.

Face it, /pol/ and shit degenerate generals like /estp/ I mean /fraud/ is here to stay.

eat cocks faggot

>>38933482
it would "work" by lowering your e2 like 1%, its not enough to matter
you wont crash your e2 taking 3 mg of your ugl asin ed, even if youre natty

>>38933521
lol k then.

guess ill need to stock more asin if thats the case.

oh wait, im a poor fugg and wasted all my money already.

will post gyno

>>38933539
most people dont need an ai for 250 mg test per week anyways

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>>38933463
I was something to related to woods. It sounds funny in my language hence I picked it

>>38933548
yeah, the thing is i want to take it is a preventive measure.

i mean, if my nips start getting puffy and itchy i would have to buy ralox and all that shit.
and i can prevent all that hassle by just takin asin beforehand

that makes sense roit?

>>38933616
sick
>>38933662
makes sense, dont necessarily need ralox as soon as they start itching tho
just wait until you get enough money for ai if youre scared, theres no hurry

>>38933687
ayy what's new with you, still cutting?

>>38933687
so this is what i can do:

>start cruise without asin
>get itchy nips
>just throw in asin
>itchy/puffy nips go away

i thought asin doesnt do anything once its there.
like if you get slightly puffy nips taking asin (or more asin) wouldnt help

Test

>>38933747
did a bulk over the summer, now more or less maintaining during a cruise and then going to do a hard cut with some var for insurance before back to bulking for my next real blast
or at least thats the current plan, probably going to change as i go along
>>38933762
you wont develop gyno instantly, the itchiness is just a sign that shit is going down
asin will keep it from progressing

>>38933807
lmao fkn easy.

would you say if i get itchy nips, 20mg per week would be enough?

Is hairloss more of an issue with low or high estro?

>>38933913
20 mg per week is a crazy low dose dude
i take 12.5 mg every other day on 250 mg/w
hairloss is due to dht binding to hair follicles, not anything to do with e2

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>>38933807
>var for insurance
kind of expensive vs. low dose adrol, don't you think?

would like to know the reasoning behind this, but going out on a limb and guessing you just like var pumps and have a bit of extra cash

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Pls rate my cycle

This is based on what I've managed to aggregate from various online sources

For reference I'm an endurance athlete

Any help is mucho appreciado

>>38933940
yeah i got the var for cheap and doesnt really give me any sides to worry about so its nice
>>38933952
5/10, try again
>eq cycle
bad idea, generally
>300 mg eq
not going to do much except fuck with pct
>no duration written
cant comment on that
>50-100 mg var per week
vague af
>clomid only pct
bad idea
>3 week pct
unconventional, not necessarily a horrible idea with the frontload and everything but theres easier ways to do this shit

>>38933937
Yeah i know its mainly due to DHT, but other hormones could influence it too, whatever.

You say most people dont need ai on 250mg/w at all, and you are throwing in mf 50mg per week.

conflicting data

Getting ready to do my first cycle ever. doing test-e 250mg.

I have leftover DNP and am currently at about 14 percent bf. Should I DNP before the cycle, after, or at the tail end while still on gear?

>>38934019
i said most people, i aromatize more than most people
12.5 mg eod isnt a high dose for asin, idk where you got the idea that 10-20 mg of asin per week was going to do much of anything
>>38934027
probably before

>>38933937
Wtf that's a ton of asin.

Im a fatty with pubertal gyno and I crash the fuck out of my e2 when I take 12.5mg eod with 500mg/week

>>38934008
shit I didn't realise there were so many obvious holes in it, I guess the moral of the story is write your cycle when you're wide awake!

Thanks for pointing it out and the tips, I'll get it sorted.

On the eq cycle, why do you say it's a bad idea? it seems to be the no1 recommended roid for endurance athletes

>>38934050
i have heard of people crashing their estro with 12.5mg e3d, thats why.

mang cant believe you aromatise that much, are you chubby?

i dont want to spend that much bucks on Ai hell

>>38934027
>>38933952

250 test-e seems pretty low for a cycle... when I'm going to do my first one soon I was planning on doing 500. Should I bump down to 400 for 12 weeks?

>>38934058
idk what to tell you, its pharma asin
is yours pharma? lots of ugls sell adex as asin
>>38934062
eq stays in your system for a very long time, making pct difficult
>>38934088
i had veins on my abs this summer, still needed same dose asin for 250 mg/w

>>38931990
Put the vial in a closed zip lock bag then put the bag in warm water.

The crystals will go back into solution.

>>38934100
how often? I'm planning on pinning e3d.

>>38934116
you got cucked with your shitty estro genetics lol

>>38934116
is there an alternative steroid that has similar effects, but without the negatives?

Fact: ESTP would get a seizure from orgasm if she ever saw even just a picture of Albfag's body.

>>38934116
dude wtf, i hope i wont aromatize like that, thats annoying as fuck

>>38934192
other esters of boldenone i guess, theyre p rare tho
you could always just use test
>>38934190
for sure
>>38934207
it really is
maintaining e2 levels on 500 test is a struggle
i tolerate tren p well tho so thats something
i firmly believe that you dont need an ai at all if you crash your levels with 12.5 mg asin e3d tho

what happened to sophies instagram?

>>38934192
npp

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Um........anyone else experience erectile dysfunction after pct?

I ran 500mg test-e 13 weeks, nolva 40/40/20/20 started 20 days after last shot.....finished nolva about a month ago. Haven't been able to get an erection for 6 weeks.

>>38933937
>i take 12.5 mg every other day on 250 mg/w
shit dude I would kill myself

do you still cruise on 250mg? I know I wouldn't if I had to pop asin like you do

>>38934424
nah im cruising on 175 mg test d rn
dont seem to need an ai at all on this dose

>>38933952
I plan on doing this but 50mg anavar off and on for about a year. And test u instead

>>38934100
No 500 is good

My last cycle was like 10 months ago. I still have some dbol from this cycle, and I was wondering if I can take it sometimes as pre workout. By sometimes I mean, one time in a month maybe. Is this dangerous for my body since I dont pin test? And is taking dbol as preworkout sometimes can have an effect in my naturel test?

>>38934824
dbol is heavily suppressive.

I'm not sure how bad the effects would be if you were to take one a month, but it would definitely impact your testosterone production negatively regardless

it's stupid, don't do it

>>38934870
hahaha ok, I miss the heavy pump... I think that I will do an other cycle soon instead

http://www.strawpoll.me/11351129/

how do I make tay tay appear on my tinder profile with spotify?

Why the fuck does DBol make me feel so tired all the time? Taking more than enough AI so I doubt its estro related but idk

>>38931054
Blast the fuck off faggot

>>38935030
too much AI

Redpill me on what gear won't fuck up my already JUST hairline even more?

>>38935030
Dbol should be doing the opposite. Whats your AI dosing looking like?

>>38935030
maybe the lethargy that come from your liver, maybe down the dose, or take something to protect your liver, or just stop dbol

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Fraud

I did the thing

We hooked up

But now I've lost interest in my fwbs
No dick is the same as his dick

Fuck

>>38935143
>>38935147


I take .5mg of armidex every other day for 60mg of dbol a day.

Might have something to do with liver I guess, never ran a bloodtest for anything related to that though so honestly no idea. Any way to know other than bloods? Already got them done 2 weeks ago and I really don't want to go again.

>>38935116
deca

>>38935256
test + deca + some AI?

>>38935246
You could just check yo vitamin intake too

Roids drain em lotsa people forget this and don't replenish = tiredness

>>38935266
natty test dose + high deca + prolactin, but im not sure about wether asin or prolactin.

gives you dry gains and no MPB, but gotta watch out for the estro, its worse than test alone

>>38935266
yes, lower test the better

deca can't be converted to dht by 5a reductase, testosterone can

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>>38935230
>le blogging continues

>>38934422
Have you gotten blood work done?

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>>38935230
rip

whats the halph life of nandrolone decanoate?

>>38935230

Would you fucc an aesthetic manlet with +7 in. dick?

Is there a pastebin or something for Baby's First Cheat?
I have no idea where to begin my reading before I begin my shopping.

>>38935372
I care about face more than anything else so yuh

>>38935310

'bout tree fiddy

In all seriousness though there is somewhat of a debate when it comes to the half-life of Deca.

In theory, steroids with a decanoate ester attached should have a half life of around 12-15 days.

Clinical pharmacokinetic data on Deca show something more on the order of 5-7 days though.

"The following pharmacokinetic parameters were found: a mean half-life of 6 days for the release of the ester from the muscular injection depot into the general circulation; a mean half-life of 4.3 h for the combined processes of hydrolysis of nandrolone decanoate and of distribution and elimination of nandrolone; a mean nandrolone serum clearance of 1.55 1 X h-1 X kg-1. The half-life of hydrolysis of nandrolone decanoate in serum was of the order of one hour or less. The data are consistent with linear kinetics."

Is raloxifene safe to take with finasteride?

>>38935395

Well I'm glad the feeling is mutual.

If you're ever in the States and I happen to get dumped by/leave my fiance lmk and I'll bet you a vial of Tren I dick you better than most dudes you've been with.

>>38935392
r/steroids/wiki

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>>38935447
you're a true gentleman

missed you bro, life looking up?

>>38935433
is this chem?

pls post current body

>>38935462

Hey man I'm not just tootin' my own horn here.

The accolades I've been awarded by my bluntly honest girlie include:

"You have the biggest dick I've ever seen in person."

"You're the only guy to get me off with just his cock."

And of course the "you're the best in bed out of the 10 other guys I've been with" but I feel like every girl says that. I believe it to be true but most people probably wouldn't without knowing Nat.

But I been alright, got an internship as a software engineer that I'm doing really well at. Back in the gym on a bit of Test and Tren, cutting @ 2,000kcal all clean food and tracking my macros.

Gained a lot of size back in a month already, but I feel like I probably won't look great again until end of November or December.

That's probably when I'll post a pic.

wbu anon?

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>>38935447
>been with 1 girl
>Im the best

>>38935444
Pls notice my trips

Im scared of dying

>>38935521

Shut up that's more than u.

>>38935532

You just don't know when to stop do you? This shit isn't difficult you fuckwit.

Clen = Tren which is a Dbol steroid. But it doesn't even matter because you're taking more than 300mg so your body automatically converts it all to ephedrine.

>>38935562
Stop this

>>38935521
>having sex with many different girls makes you good at sex
does virgins really believe this?

>abdominal skinfold thickness is 7mm at the largest, measured with a caliper, literally cannot pinch any more than that. abs are just barely visible while relaxed.

>>>>>>>>>>>>the skinfold on my ass/hips area is
>>33
>33mm
>the skinfold
>on my ass and hips
>is THIRTY THREE millimeters thick
>while my lower stomachs THICKEST AREA is 7mm

>>38935562
>so your body automatically converts it all to ephedrine.
nope, i got bloods, for me it converts to methyltrienolone and cocaine at a ~40/60 ratio

>>38935562
Not if you include hookers

>>38935570
No you shut up thats the best line about steroids ever penned

>>38935573
Youre right surely all the hentai I watch make me a super fugg

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Doing my first pin ever with test-e tomorrow boys, I can't wait to join the club!

>>38935562
I don't think you quoted the right anon m8

>>38935597
Did you even 100% CG

>>38935616
tfw no mei gf

>>38935621

Nope that is definitely exactly what I meant to say and to whom.

>>38935570

I can't, I'm Patrick Easton.

I bet you don't even bench 2 plate.

pinned tonight in the usual spot on my left glute ( I alternate cheeks)

lots of dark red blood came out after I withdrew the pin, but the whole thing was quick and painless.

Whats up with that blood?

Is there any general with all the info in it?

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>>38935628
N-no
Did you? Fyckin nerd

>>38935637

>not dressing up your thick gf as mei and fucking her furiously

>>38935661

When you poke holes in your body, strangely the fluid inside has a tendency of leaking out.

>>38935656
You gave a guy asking about fin and ralox advice about clen

>>38935616

Also guys I have a question. The only needles I could get ahold of were 22g 1 inch. I'm not a bitch, I have tattoos, but how much is it going to hurt honestly? I plan on pinning my delt.

>>38935665

Buy a bottle of Test E 250.

Now spend the rest of your disposable income on Tren.

Every week, inject 0.5mL of Test, and find the Tren dosage that causes you to have uncontrollable nosebleeds and stop just a tad shy of that amount each week.

Do this until you make it, go insane, or some vital organ in your body gives out.

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>>38935668
>that webm

>>38935675

Your newfag is showing. Been here all summer, huh?

>>38935677

I've been using 22g 1" from the Ranch Supply store across the street because the Walgreens won't give me 25g without a rx.

It's not that bad.

>>38935675
Ralox is also a dbol steroid, it still applies

>>38935688
>125 test a week with fuckloads of tren

>>38935716
that's actually the best way to do it tho he's not even trolling

>>38935713
Well fuck, didnt know

>>38935706
Dunno shit abbout roids really, just wanna grow my hair back and shrink my tits. Not a frequenter of this general, apologies

>>38935737
why not 250 test? 125 seems low

>>38935752
less estrogen to potentiate tren sides the better, plus the test is just to keep your dick working among other things

125 is plenty for that

>>38935752

Idk about you but I could not run 250mg of Testosterone a week indefinitely without using an AI.

And fuck AI's they just complicate things. Take the most Test you can handle without ever needing to fuck with your E2, which for most is 125-175mg a week.

Some people get lucky and can just gobble down wet gear with no consequences.

If that's you and you don't care about turning into the Stay Puft marshmellow man, push Test up around a gram and run Tren as high as you can tolerate.

Face > Everything though, so fuck running anything that's going to bloat my face and make me ugly.

>>38935669
>tfw no gf, period

I've been dreaming about having a gf and being happy every single night for the past 6 days. it's getting really weird.

>>38935743
you're getting trolled super hard

>>38935783
>If that's you and you don't care about turning into the Stay Puft marshmellow man, push Test up around a gram and run Tren as high as you can tolerate.

kek'd hard

wish more old trips would come back and make this general great again

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>>38935790
>I've been dreaming about having a gf and being happy every single night for the past 6 days.
I have the solution for that

>>38935743
are you only using ralox? no test, no nothing, just trying to stop gyno?

ralox and fina don't interact directly with each other in any negative fashion, but fina on its own has pretty bad sides, like making your dick stop working. personally wouldn't run it without test just in case but hey, you do you

>>38935447
>leave my fiance
Idgi

3sum when

>>38935783
what's a che-manlet

>>38935783
i don't need an ai at 250. do people that aren't fat fucks actually need ai's at 250?

>>38935688
So no one has actually made a pastebin or something? Knowing the side effects of using horse steroids might be nice (plus where to inject it, buy it, how much it costs, etc).

>>38935848

These tend not to be possible when your significant other is batshit insane with a paranoid disorder and attachment/jealousy issues.

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>>38935790
>>38935839
empty your piggy bank and buy a daki anon

you wont regret it

>>38935853

I'm not sure, I feel like over time your AI would rise enough to cause problems.

I think I just got cucked by my E2 genes though.

>>38935874

Dropped trip for some reason

>>38935868

Mods are dildo-riding nattyfags who get mad when we post it.

>>38935840
Im currently on a cut from my first real bulk, been researching doing a test only cycle in a few months on my next bulk but im waiting it out. Had puffy nips since puberty and i wanna see if i can at least shrink it down before getting cut up to get rid of it. Hoping itll go away completely. As for the fin, i know about all the shitty sides but know it only happens to like 2% of people who take it. There are also published studies of people taking placebo pills in place and reporting the dick not functioning shit so i feel like its self fulfilling in a lot of cases. Either way ill be sure to fuck off of that shit at the first sign of something not being right. I dont look bad bald so its not the end of the world, but i look way better with hair so idk.

Thanks for the advice senpai

>>38935898
are you fat or no? what's your bf%? i'm hovering around 13% according to faggots on cbts.

>>38935868
we had an old pastebin but we no longer post it because it gets our threads deleted. also it hasn't been updated in like a year

now we just refer people like you to r/steroids/wiki. plus, it's way more indepth than anything we had.

you won't find anything about sourcing there though.

>>38932897
holy shit, how long have you been back?

>>38935912

Nope, probably around 13-14% rn

Even when I was fucking shredded 7% still couldn't take much Test without AI.

>>38935932
wat, a long ass time

>>38935932
he was gone for like 2 weeks or what are you talking about?

>>38935938
fair enough, this is the first thread iv been on for months. i finished my cycle back in july

>>38935956
>i finished my cycle
:^)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

>>38935955
last time i saw he had been doxxed and had left for good

>>38935912
>hovering around 13% according to faggots on cbts.

You must be closer to 8-10%.
The guestimations are wildly inaccurate.

>just moved to new place
>no more money
>girl moved away to be with her boyfriend
>winter is upon us
>bulking season soon

Well.. guess I'll PSMF for a month or two before blasting into oblivion. What the fuck else do I have to do :(

>>38936026
no way, my abs are only barely visible relaxed. like, barely barely. i'm still fat as fuck because, the thing is, i store wayyyyyyy too much fat on my hips and ass relative to the rest of my body.

>>38935868
I got you http://pastebin.com/LkwiVjJc

>tfw my friend got me in contact with dis hot pimp

Well he don't call himself a pimp but it pretty much what he do

Unfortunately I kind of just wanted to bang him

>>38935874
...what do you mean that's the perfect breeding ground for my sexy manipulation tactics senpai let me at

Or you could just cheat

>>38936057
Ah, well it depends on the day.
I remember when I got shredded last summer and anons were saying I was between 15-20%.

>>38936151
pics? i notice that jealous fatties on /fit/ like to say lean people are way fatter than they actually are to make themselves feel better. and they say fat ass fucks are way leaner than they actually are, so that they can delude their own fat asses into thinking they're leaner.

>>38935688
also avoid saunas

Since hair loss is a side effect of steroids, what can I take to mitigate this? I have a high hairline that is already starting to recede (I'm 18), so I'm mildly afraid I'll look like a white dwayne johnson by the time I'm 25-30.

Has anyone done test really low with tren? I'm talking 70mg eod of test prop?

>>38933280
>>>38933241
>typical advice on reddit is usually 12.5mg E3D and then if you still get high estrogen symptoms try 12.5mg EOD and so on
That's right. Take it everyday and you will be in a world of pain. Crashed e2 is no fun.

>>38936284
210-280mg isn't "really low" m8

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>>38936284
>eod
if you want to run short esters you can't be lazy with pinning

>>38936314
Cool. Guess I'll go with it.

>>38936318
Might do that. Is it wrong I like pinning so much it has become an exciting ritual?

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>>38936188
This is the post cut pic in question that sad fucks said I was 15% and up.
Natty here btw.
Only just started cycle on 15th.

>>38936350
that's not fucking 15% lol. it's like 12 at most, but most likely 11 or maybe slightly under. might be lower but can't tell cuz blurry pic.

yeah dude you are gonna look 500x as good once you roid up, imagine that physique but with blown up traps delts and chest, it will be insane

>>38935656
>S...s...stupermang?

>>38936350

If you're really natty here you have decent genetics and a fantastic base to start with.

It'll be interesting to see your physique 6 months from now,

>>38936350
>roiding for this

>>38936369
That's the idea.
Training minimum 6 days a week, scaling up my calories, doing my best not to go bald or grow tits.

Faggots here are influencing me to BnC instead of cycling.

>>38936435
>>38936440
i would believe it look at the shoulders. if he roids he is like intentionally not working shoulders at all, and even then they would probably be bigger on gear

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>>38936435
I got 'fuller' since then.
Here's me a week into cycle.
But yeah 100% natty till September 15th.

>>38936440
Well meme'd friend

>>38936465
no offense or personal attack here, but you are literally the perfect example of why natty bodies can't be aesthetic in my opinion. natties just simply cant grow good delts. if you had blown up delts and traps in this pic you would look literally 10x as good.

If you couldn't lift at all except for cardio, how high of a dose of test would you run?

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Fuck. Just went to McDonald's and grabbed three jr. chickens. Crushed them and now i want to go back and get more.

Why are jr chickens so based?

Man this surgery had me looking so bad
I need tren
I need tren bad

>>38936465
Do lots of lat work, get the cobra going instead of fridge mode

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>>38936492
They ain't bad

I get pic related's regularly

R8 my average breakfast

>>38936491
250

>>38936519
Oh fuck yeah two mcdoubles and junior used to be my staple when I needed some extra cals and brotein ~$5 for like 1200 cals and 55 grams of brotein god bless

>>38936535
250 as non lifter? Isn't that kind of high?

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Doesn't it ever piss you guys off how Mentally ill men can become women in a snap but if you're low test you usually have to buy shit online illegally?

What is /fraud/'s opinion on the tranny problem?

WHY is it more acceptable to become the opposite gender than grow some muscles in modern society?

>>38936222
???

>>38936519
>>38936537
lol steroids

>>38936582
Seems inconsequential really. Gear is easy to get ahold of.

>>38936465

No hate you looked better before.

Are you running wet compounds?

>>38936318
what site is that?

>>38936615
But isn't it a sign of an ill society?

Becoming the opposite gender is fine but growing muscles is evil.

Irregardless of how easy gear is to get - the market simply adjusts to fill the huge demand for roids by creating blackmarkets

>>38936222
You have several options:
1.) Avoid compound that fuck your hairline
2.) Use finasteride/dutasteride
3.) Embrace it and learn to enjoy the bald life

And I really hope you're not planning on hopping on at 18.

>>38936629
steroidcalc

>>38936631
I dunno dude. Seems like a lot of worrying.

>>38935853
I am currently injecting 1.25g of Test E and I still do not need an AI.

>>38936661

are you sure you're not just injecting olive oil?

>>38936642
I plan on going natty for two years and then trying some stuff.

>>38936661

Yep there's one of those people I was talking about.

Bimbo doesn't need an AI either.

my advice is throw in half a gram of Mast and a dash of Dbol if you want to feel max-fantastic.

did that exact blast before, looked pretty fucking thicc after 6 weeks

>>38936699
>>
>my advice is throw in half a gram of Mast and a dash of Dbol if you want to feel max-fantastic.
my advice is start shaving your head now

lol

>>38936631
You'relooking at it from a biased perspective.
Both are people looking to fix themselves.
Its just test os more frowned upon medically

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>>38936718
Gender dysphoria can be treated though.

But how wanting to be bigger and manlier is seen as wrong while being a tranny is fine in modern society is beyond me

>>38936730
No its not
Have you watched a movie recently? Basically all muscle.

You should get off r9k sometime dude.
And who cares theyre not hurting you in any way

>>38936699
I'm on my 3rd week of 25mg dbol twice a day (I'm the anon you replied to).
Considering stopping because I can't walk up the god damn hill next to my apartment and go hiking. The pumps are too fucking strong. I get to the top and literally want to just lay down and die because my calves/lower back want to explode.

>>38936677
Its from the most reputable source at r/sst so yes I'm sure.

>>38936757
>Men with critically low test can't get trt without doctor shopping and bombing their levels with no sleep and shit
>Roids seen as making you roidrage and have your heart explode, and lower your IQ in popular media

Meanwhile 8 year olds get HRT for playing with dolls and putting on a dress once

>>38936773

Goddamn dude that's a lot of Dbol.

I'd suggest 25mg ED for twice as long.

Less sides, better gains.

>>38936697
Ok. To be honest it depends on your priorities. If you just want to look better and be stronger, wait until you're 21 at least, if not mid 20's. But if your goal is to be Mr. Olympia and you don't care if you damage your body, you're gonna want to start blasting ASAP. Basically, as long as you're completely done growing and you've been lifting for a few years, it's relatively safe to start gear.

>>38936773
i fucking hate this shit honestly... so fucking retarded. i can't walk to class on dbol because the pain gets so bad it makes me want to cut my fucking legs off

>>38936800
Thats because test is demonized not because trannies are stepping on your rights

Take your damn ai your estro is probably higher than a trannies now damn dude

>>38936800
Life isn't fair. Blast test, look fucking huge and get over it.

>>38936830
Anecdotally taurine and electrolytes like sodium and potassium are supposed to help with the pumps.

>test kicks in
>suddenly a thirsty nigga
bumble, tinder, how good are those to get a quick fuck?
Also any other option?

>>38936878
backpage, find a thicc bitch to fuck for some dollarydoos

>>38936486
Well let's hope I'm doing enough shoulder and trap work.

>>38936512
And lats.

>>38936619
I know.
That first cut I was aiming for less than 2g of sodium daily and it resulted in a drier look.

Leading up to latest pic I had averaged 5g of sodium daily because low sodium made me feel shit.

I intentionally got tbol to reduce water gains, but should have listened to /fraud/ not only is it weak, can't feel it at 100mg ED, but I've put on a pound a day since I started using it while eating at maintenance and I doubt any of that is muscle.

Still kind of comfy being over 200lbs and seeing abs.

>>38936878
they're good if you're attractive

are you attractive, anon?

>>38936839

O/

>>38936942
why do you think I'm here?
overall I think my biggest problem is that I'm a bit boring.

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>>38936941

It's very likely glycogen and not water though. Superdrol is probably the best example of that happening.

I've got a thyroid test coming up and my dnp and t3 are on their way.

Im also finally back to a 100kg incline bench, but that's not too bad considering I only started lifting again 3 months ago and would snap everything if I went too fast.

Bent over row is decent, bench at 100 and squat at 120.

Started lifting seriously again 5 weeks ago. Time for dnp and t3 to lean out now, being bloofy is bothering me.

Also have a huge festival thing with bartendqt mid november. I'm going shirtless with just my hipster scarf and my jacket.

Don't judge, she's the type for it.

250 tabs of xtc and 2cb coming in as well. None for me until NYE though.

>>38936958
start baking nigga or some other cooking shit
learn three or four real good recipies; makes the bitches gush

>>38936807

Lol, this coming from the guy who took 2 mg mtren

>>38936958

You can fix boring.

Fake it till you make it.

>>38936941

I've done so many fucking compounds but not Tbol.

Epi does what Tbol does but Epi is the shit.

Next on my list to try are Trestolone and DHB.

I've got 20g of DHB on the way I plan on trying sometime in the future at 400mg a week with 125mg Test E and 400mg Mast E.

But Decemberish when I finish my cut I'm gonna do 175-225mg Trest Ace solo and see what the hype is about.

>>38936807
The pump sides I hate, but secretly like lol.
Walking around like in a mall or something I'll get a random pump back there and I literally am just laughing out loud at how ridiculous the pump is. I am sure I look like a psycho just standing there holding my back while laughing/moaning in pain. I think its fun.
I don't get any other sides, so fuck it I'll stick to my dose.

>>38937009

Liver damage fixes itself, gyno doesn't.

Also I looked damn good on that 2mg M-Tren.

I'll probably get a few hundred mg soon just to tuck away, stuff is fantastic but rare.

>>38937009

He's not wrong. And mtren is different.

>>38937026

I'll take half if you take a gram.

#yolo

>>38937013
how? I can only start convos with boring stuff like "hi", I can't come up with something good, I don't know how to break the ice and I get bored to death with boring convos if the other person is a bit like me.

>>38937026

What was jail like chem? Any gud stories?

>>38937052

>how

Stupid pickupline from a movie or series you think she knows, some weird thing about her pics.

Or "I'm new to this, this means we x right?"

Or "So you like anal too right? That's why we matched isn't it?"

Then wait for a response and act innocent.

Just screw around.

>>38937080
that's seems better I felt like I lost my spark, now I just need to come up with new ideas.
Thanks familia

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>>38937103

>this could be you.

>>38936994
I thought glycogen weight was water weight, that your cells just expanded to let more fluid in.

>>38937014
Tbol looked very good on paper but for the price I didn't live up to expectations.

Still, being my first time using it was the safest bet.

>>38937143
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glycogen

>>38937143

Oh god. Glycogen is fuel. Sugars.

There's dehydration and glycogen depletion. They're very different.

Glycogen usually attracts water though, but not the other way around.

>>38937052
Just be a compulsive liar since you were a child and you can convincingly tell all kinds of wild bullshit stories. Fuckin ez

>>38937181

I always win bullshitting.

The trick is to take something that happened and just go crazy. Be a bit emotional and pretend you're recalling amazing or sad stuff and act all giddy.

It works.

Im well beyond needing that though. Heh.

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>>38937215
>Im well beyond needing that though. Heh.

so i am on psmf and eca stack, and food isn't even like tempting me at all. usually i daydream about food all day on psmf.

however i still feel like i am dying. besides muh electrolytes is there anything i can do to change that? i'm getting some through multivitamins and a fuckload of salt on my chicken.

>>38937215
Yeah dude I've been doing it so much since I was a little kid that I honestly can't help embellishing stories. I have my own way of justifying it though.

People always tell me I'm a great story teller, this is one of my better qualities honestly. I don't 'give away the ending' and I am good at building up suspense. When to talk slowly/quickly to get them hanging on your words etc. In HS there was this one friend (girl) of mine who would literally tell everyone to STFU because I am telling a story.

The embellishment to me is just part of the process really.

>>38937152
>>38937163
Thanks.

Too simple to grasp it fully but got an idea.

Just surprised my weight went up so fast on moderate carbs (40% or less).

>>38937227
why are you so aggressive today jerry-san

thinks going okay with the wife?

>>38937267

Iktf.

It's fun when im with people a bit younger.

I go in, quiet, start talking after I smoke a cigar and 15 minutes later I have a crowd around me listening to me.

Had a hazing 3 weeks ago. Bit old but... Eh.

6 hours in, everyone exhausted, storytime.

I got the president of it all and his cronies literally pull me apart. They wanted to hear more

Everyone doing degrading shit, I was drinking, smoking and telling stories.

I ended up carrying the rest of my group during the physical shit later that night and fed them all modafinil so they were cool with it.

>>38937291
Im trying to take less hydrocodon

Everything is always perfect with the wife~~~

>>38936631
>Irregardless

>>38935230
Hypothesis confirmed, you're not getting dicked hard enough
>>38936094
Fuck a pimp I'll be your owner

>>38937307
Good work man. Handing out that modafinil is a good touch lol.

So many times I have just been talking to someone I just met, and not long after I look around and think "when the fuck did all these people start staring and listening??"

Then the basic bro who wants the spotlight interrupts, trying to 1 up.

Gotta shut the mother fucker down quick. "Look dude we want to hear more, really, but we are kind of in the middle of something."

Makes me think.... You can speak for the group in situations like this and the group will likely just let you assume that control.

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>>38937457
>You can speak for the group in situations like this and the group will likely just let you assume that control.

Yep.

I usually just let the guy talk and light another cigar while talking to the people next to me. They'll shut the other guy down fast.

Tbh im not as good as I used to be. It's easier for me when im lean, even though nobody can see that through my jacket/coat.

Confidence thing.

>>38937267
i can't do this. i'm so autistic and i hate being wrong so much that i have to intersperse every story with 'as i recall' and 'from what i can remember, this is what happened, although it may have been slightly different'. i know it ruins the storytelling process, and makes me look like an anal-retentive loser, but i can't help it.

fuck my life, why do i do this?

>>38937668
It is just one kind of thing to be good at man. You don't have to be decent story teller to be a decent human being. You are fine bro.

>>38937714
>a decent human being
lol, where do you think you are?
i'm not posting in a thread about steroid abusing faggots like myself, who are ridiculed even on an edgelord website devoted to contrarians, because i want to be 'a decent human being'.

don't ever talk down to me, or my wife son, again.

>>38937761
Damn

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>>38936492
Fuck when they had those bigmac wraps nigga you don't even know

Jfc I'm super high on acid rn and some dude is coming over to try and bang me and I gotta pretend i aint trippin ballllllllz

Also did some hydros earlier and i think theyre whats making me feel like i gotta puke eerrryywhere shiet

>>38936934
I volunteer as tribute

>>38937455
Mmm daddy when are you comin to show me how to be a good, good little girl...?

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>>38937897

>>38937897
are you a boy or a girl?

Quick Q fraud, can someone link me on amazon what types of syringes and needles I'd need to inject test e? I see so many and I can't figure out which would be best.

>>38938027
Listen little baby, you're gonna get a lot of hurtful and degrading comments, but that ain't what I'm about.

I use 30g (only because my local chemist didn't have 31g's at the time) insulin syringes. They will take a little longer to load, sure.

But why use a fucking nail of a needle at 23g or even 25g? 'Cycling' is a retarded bodybuilding.com-tier meme, anyone who has any sense and has done any research knows that BnC is the way to go. That means a lot of injections, potentially for the rest of your life. Why stab yourself with a thicker needle than you have to?

I use 30g, 30cc insulin syringes. Load time depends upon how your bathtub underground lab mixes up your compounds, but test e for me takes about 2-3 minutes for 30ccs. Less for mast e.

Then it takes me 10-15 seconds to push in those 30ccs. Tiny fucking needle, tiny hole, I don't even bleed > 60% of the time.

>>38938085
lol don't listen to this shit. 30-31g needles u will waste 2 hours of ur fucking life drawing and injecting.

i use 21g to draw (any bigger and i notice my stoppers on the vials get fucked up) and 23g to inject... it doesn't even hurt at all. in fact the first time i injected i was completely shocked at the lack of pain

don't be a pussy

>>38938085
I did see these insulin syringes on amazon with 31 gauge needles. I don't mind waiting some time to load it up and inject.

I see bnc is a good way to do things but this is my first cycle so I just wanted to see how I reacted to it and all that. Forgive me for my ignorance.

These are the insulin syringes I found with needles, would this be all I need as far as the needle and syringe?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00IRXVJ66/ref=mp_s_a_1_2_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1475473682&sr=8-2&keywords=insulin+syringe&pi=SY200_QL40

>>38938121

Man I don't know who to listen to, but I do see most people use around 22-27 gauge. Could you show me exactly what I need to look at on amazon?

>>38938003
it actually has a vagina. high mileage though

>>38938121
so your argument is basically 'lol who cares about scar tissue and ramming huge chunks of metal into your body, it's not worth spending a few extra minutes to load up smaller gauge needles, pussy ass faggot'.

Picked a few things on amazon, is this alright?

The syringe:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01DARUHSY/ref=mp_s_a_1_1_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1475474540&sr=8-1&keywords=3ml+syringe&pi=SY200_QL40

The draw needle:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01GB6W6V2/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1475474604&sr=8-3&pi=SY200_QL40&keywords=21+gauge+needle&dpPl=1&dpID=41XekI9hJ3L&ref=plSrch

The inject needle:


https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01GB76XQU/ref=mp_s_a_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1475474673&sr=8-7&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=25+gauge+needle&dpPl=1&dpID=41k05uyAD1L&ref=plSrch

>>38938227
No that's not right unless you own an autoclave.
You wanna get STERILIZED needles and syringes. It's pretty vital to not getting an infection.

>>38938245
He syringe is sterilized but I'm having trouble finding appropriate sized sterilized needles.

>>38938245
How about these needles?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01HVARXPQ/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1475475780&sr=8-3&pi=SY200_QL40&keywords=sterile+needles+1.5&dpPl=1&dpID=51-Fz3UsLWL&ref=plSrch

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>>38938338

they're good anon. I use 1" myself. Whru gonna pin?

>>38937897
Be a good good little girl and post ass and coochie, no panties

>>38938625
>>38937897
Missed the part about acid sex, that's my shit. Post creampied orifices

>>38931243
thats surprisingly spot on

>>38933940
REQUESTING FOR ESTP TO REPLICATE THIS GIF. TOOOOOOOOOO HOT

HNNNNGG

HNNNNG

HNGNGNGNH
GFNGNGNG
GNNFGNG
SDG
moot

Shitposting from school
hows the others

ive only done top down quad injects myself. I know you can go from the side too though.
i always go super slow, but i think thats cause needles freak me out. i seem to always break a sweat.
sometimes get sickly and stomach cramps too. I usually sit on the shitter when injecting just incase I gotta take a dump during the process LOL
Floated a big ol' stanley steamer this morning doing quad injection lol

i dont lift tho, but my fav spot for injecting is shoulder. the pip is tolerable. quads is making me crippled each and every time. mayeb cause my needles are too large, too spastic to explain to pharmacy cashiers that i want to inject myself.

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>>38939966
>i dont lift tho

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>>38939966
sometimes i feel like a complete lose, and then i see people like you and feel good about myself again

>>38939939
Injecting while you're shitting doesn't sound like the most hygienic of environments.

>>38933241

I take it every pin day (E3.5D). That way I don't forget.

I did 12.5mg asin at first like recommended but apparently I don't aromatize much and crashed my E2 (confirmed w/ bloodwork). Lowered dose to 6.25mg E3.5D and everything was gucci.

>>38933952

WIth EQ you want at least 600mg/wk if not more. Also it takes a long time to kick in so you want at least a 16 week cycle.

Generally I'm a big fan of EQ (not much aromatization), but it does raise BP and some people get serious anxiety from it.

>>38940055
ohh thats nice to hear.

>>38935661

probly nicked a blood vessel. i pinned my right ventro glute tonight and a lot of dark red blood came out. i usually have a cotton swab on hand to apply pressure but it's been so long since i bled i got cocky this time.

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>>38939983
>>38939939
Y-you arent actually being real rn desu?

>>38939983
>>38940005
I'm blasting 700 a week, desu feels good. Energy is high, fat % low, look pretty ripped.

diet wise macros are proper.

>>38940198
test e*

thinking of adding tren in too.

>>38936447

Hell if I had natty genetics like you I'd BnC until I die, even if it meant death-by-sauna like zyzz. Like Chem said I'd be surprised if you didn't have a god-like body in 6 months.

If I were you I might PCT once just to see whether I could recover my natty balls/test and also see how much I can retain after cycling off, but after that I'd just BnC until I absolutely needed to stop.

>>38936941

how the fuck do you do less than 2g of sodium a day? or even 5g a day?

>>38940189
>that guy who doesn't know desu is a wordfilter and unironically uses it

>>38937324

i got an infection after light surgery on my foot back in june. they gave my vicodin, but all it did was make me high and didn't really take away the pain. doc told me to take 800mg ibuprofen instead, and that completely killed the pain. in fact, i couldn't feel any kind of pain from anything. ended up burning my arm reaching into the oven and not noticing.

so i stashed the vicodin for recreational use. no idea why the doc gave me a 15 day supply (4x a day, so 60 pills). it's all gone now, sadly.

>>38938003

she has a bit of a manly looking face, but her vag is very pretty. nice booty too. but flat chested. i had a hard time determining whether male tranny or female when i first saw only face/upper body pics.

>>38940323
wait is ibuprofen that much of a painkiller?

i had a lot of shoulder pain and had ´to skip gym for 1 month because of it, and now since 1 week i didnt feel the pain anymore, taking 400mg ibuprofen 2x a day.

i thought it was just to combat the inflammation, but according to you it probably just killed the pain and the inflammation is still there?

fucking doctors, i swear

>>38937289
You were right. Extra weight from glycogen mostly comes from the water needed to maintain osmotic balance.

People in fraud are fucking retarded I would suggest not taking any advice here. Including this.

>>38940290
baka desu senpai

>>38940359

it helps with the inflammation and at higher doses it seems to completely wipe out pain too.

when i got my wisdom teeth removed i got a script for oxy. shit made me high and did remove a lot of the pain, but after a day or two i switched to ibuprofen. at higher doses it was even better at killing the pain, but no high of course.

>>38940449
i hope that is true, i dont want to take fucking painkillers and work out with a shoulder inflammation, and your post scared me that my shoulder may still be fucked up but ibuprofen just killed the pain.

ill do a test now and stop taking it and see if my shoulder will hurt again.

I'm back after an extended stint for buying roids in Romania. Turns out my Vietnamese lawyer wasn't accredited so the charges were pressed and I was found guilty. I've been doing hard labour solving captchas 6 hours a day in a controlled website environment for the past 8 weeks and have found myself with the help of Roiders Anonymous, I've moved back to Latvia and it's time to turn over a new cheek...GET IT. I'll be writing comedy material that isn't offensive or possibly triggering to any person or "xirs" as they identify with. May your non-denominational non-religious non-deity look over your non-defined non-sexually identified self and remain ambiguous in their feelings towards you.

Stay natty

>>38940611
wait what?

What were you found guilty for?
For roids?

>>38940611
>this post

>>38940611
I think you need to drop the recreational drugs too man

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How bad is it getting 10-15g of sodium a day when power bulking?

Stan "the rhino™" Efferding says cholesterol and sodium gives insane gains, so I must be doing something right?

Is PSMF the fastest way of losing fat, short of DNP? Or is a normal cut with lots of HIIT better?

I'm just trying to lose ~10 pounds before I bulk.

>>38940758
the one with the biggest calorie deficit is the fastest

>>38940721

I think he means halo and tren.

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>>38940923

>fat

Biggest deficit is fastest weight loss. Not neccesarily fat loss. But you're pretty much right regardless.

Dnp4me, 600/day for 20-25 days. Lots of diuretics for the last 3+ the 4 after, done by Halloween and time4bulk.

Total kcals past 5 days havent been over 1400 a day, average is about 1000.

Once I hit 900 or less 3 days in a row I'm starting dnp.