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>>38770679

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OK guys I seriously need help

I have literally every single symptom of low T but my levels are only slightly below average: (490ng total and 14ng free)

what do you think could be causing my problems? are my levels really low enough to be causing my low libido and lack of progress in the gym? my doctor said they were perfectly normal but he is a general practitioner so probably knows nothing about testosterone

>>38770696
lol

>>38770680
Wanna make me the 100th? ;^) ;^)

>>38770683
Will keep in mind, not really a combo I'd have considered. I can't really imagine how they'd jive together, I'm kind of excited to try now..
Psychs aren't a fav of mine anymore, but they were my first love...hmm..

>tfw waiting for this fucking cold to be over before you can start your cycle

Coughing this hard is a gr8 core work out senpai

>>38770696
Actually kekd

This is pretty gud

>>38770723
come over to Q U E B E C and I will (you don't want to come to Quebec... though it's hard to imagine somewhere being worse than Saskatchewan)

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>>38770489
>hating on based Cass
WHEN WILL BETAS LEARN?

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>been on gear for 1.5 yrs
>5'9 180lbs
>want to leave humanity so gonna bulk till 2017
>4k calories a day, 400-500g protein, 200g complex carbs, rest can be fat or more protein, maybe a bit more carbs
>over 10g of sodium a day
>upped dosage to 1.25g test and 1g equipoise
>train harder than before
>1 week later
>still 180lbs

WHAT THE FUCK WHAT THE FUCK WHAT THE FUCK REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>38770696
Fucking perfect

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>>38770696
LOL
Bump that is really well done anon
I enjoy at the end seeing this in the picture frame

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>>38770756
>getting ok high doses of gear before you even know how to eat

>Posting again cause didnt get an answer last thread.
What would be a suitable AI dosage for 300mg test e. I am thinking .25mg of Adex 2 times per week. Does that sound about right?

>>38770702

how old are you? your levels seem to be painfully average (not below average).

> are my levels really low enough to be causing my low libido and lack of progress in the gym?

probably not. look at your diet, sleep, and training.

maybe you're depressed? could be worth looking into.

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>>38770756
> Upping doses.
> clearly has no idea how to train.
> expects /roid/ to make up for bad training.

>>38770702
>are my levels really low enough to be causing my low libido and lack of progress in the gym?
No.

what steroids are best for growing a beard?

will I get facial hair from just test E?

literally NEED a beard, having a baby face is torture

>>38770822
you didn't get an answer because it's a stupid question

>>38770756
>500g protein
THERES YOUR PROBLEM
need more carbs

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>>38770833

>>38770736
Kek
Fucking fake frenchies

Pay my flight

>>38770829
But roids make up for bad training.

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>>38770696

>>38770746

nothing wrong with roiding.

but it's pretty shit to lie about being natty while calling other people pussies when you get called out for it. if you don't want to admit it don't make a big deal out of it instead of insulting other people.

>>38770825
What? Those do look to be pretty low for a young male. I know standards have dropped but still.

>>38770845

I WANT MUSCLE NOT BLOAT!

Elite athletes/coaches like mark bell doesnt even eat high carbs and he's a fuckin 290lbs powerlifter.

>>38770696

good work anon. made me LOL

>>38770875
You shoulda at least read the sticky before roiding

>>38770875
do you get the impression that mark bell has trouble gaining weight?
if you dont want to eat carbs just eat more fat then, you will probably have a worse p-ratio for it but if you think itll keep "bloat" away, go ahead

>>38770832
>>38770825
should I get my E2 checked then?

and I do have excellent sleep and nutrition but my gains are still terrible, I have been lifting hard for over a year and can barely bench 175 and my squat is like 205, those numbers are nowhere near what they should be

You boys ready for a new cutting compound?

Keen to skip cardio and not ingest rat poison or dye my gfs teeth yellow

http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2016-09-14/australian-scientists-closing-in-on-miracle-exercise-pill/7844420?pfmredir=sm

>>38770833
>>38770851
search google for shit about minox shutting down collagen production/regeneration

shit can apparently age you really drastically/quickly. i already have shitty skin so that's why i avoid it.

>>38770833
test probably. you could probably get away with just taking proviron (DHT) for beard gains. keep in mind that with all DHT things there's a risk of fucking your hairline if you're predisposed to it

>>38770756
>wants to do a "leave humanity behind" bulk
>not eating carbs
wew

>>38770942
yeah I was thinking about DHT but fucking nobody sells DHT. I know you cant ask directly for sources but if you could tell me where to look for proviron sources that would be great

>>38770929
"It does not actually make you lose weight, "

>>38770899

the guy who made that doesnt even look like he lifts and just copy pasted random shit all the iifymers and permabulking natties keep regurgitating.

>>38770921

> I have been lifting hard for over a year

if you've been lifting for just over a year i wouldn't be worried about it. also 175 bench and 205 squat doesn't tell me anything w/o your bodyweight.

again, roid if you want to, but your test levels look okay.

>>38770970
No drug causes weight loss, a caloric deficit does

Sounds like it actively encourages lipolysis though, like var or tren

>>38770875
>Elite athletes
>doesnt even eat high carbs
you are retarded

>>38771003
some drugs cause a caloric deficit, though

>>38770837
You are stupid

>>38770994
6'1 and 190 pounds

>>38770921
e2 levels dont matter in terms of strength gains
also
>excellent sleep
>all the symptoms of low test

>>38771057
A caloric deficit makes you lose weight, not necessarily fat

Increasing test, training hard, eating right, and taking compounds that promote lipolysis will make more of the weight lost come from fat

>>38770696

you are doing god's work anon

>>38771110
you will lose primarily fat if you lose weight outside of any extreme conditions

>>38770746
>cassfag
all we need now is an izzy frogposter

>>38770696
Fucken saved

>>38771159
That's true I guess, providing you're not a natty close to the limit

shit like var is great for recomping though, so it's good if you wanted to get something that's not just winny in a different box

Plus it's always good to have a wide variety of compounds

Also it does increase bmr, and if it improves heart health then all the more reason to take it

Obviously way too early to really consider it at all but concept is interesting

What is babies first resource for steroids? It's time to leave humanity behind.

>>38771073

assuming you were a newbie lifter when you started, doesn't seem like terrible progress.

again, if you want to roid, go ahead, but your test levels seem very average.

>>38770696
Perfect.

>>38771222
"natty limit" is a meme and its still going to be PRIMARILY fat that you lose, not to say that you wont lose some muscle as well
winny is great for most of the things var are too just that it fucks your joints
compounds similar to what theyre describing already exist btw, they had the same kind of clickbait articles about them as they were starting to come out but they turned out to be not that exciting

>>38770756
> juicing for a year
> 5'7 205lb
> only run 250 test and occasionally 350 tren for 8 weeks.

>>38771202
>yfw he's talking about cass

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>>38770696
This is the best fraud OC i have seen since 2013
good shit anon

>>38771270
Link to other compounds? I'll definitely agree, article is pretty clickbaity

>>38771299
gw 50156 is the most popular one by far, there are others as well but theyre hard to find because nobody wants them
there are some (slightly dubious) studies showing that gw 50156 gives you cancer tho so theres that

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>>38770696
Kek, that was good.

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Can high test levels make you more emotional?
on 500mg test e week8 of ?.
It's not e2, bloodwork confirms I have it dialed in.

Been having very emotional reactions to things that wouldn't usually bother me.
>girl that I'm interested in jokingly call me weird because I added her on snapchat out the blue(it's on her insta)
>almost started crying

>bro get's tagged in photos out partying when he told he was too tired to hang out
>take it to heart and ignore all his messages there after

>>38771270
>natty limit" is a meme
welcome to /fraud/'s talking point of the week

>>38771378
ive been saying this for years lol

>>38771321
Doesn't cap sell that?

Looking at the comments about cancer, seems like one big circlejerk about dosages desu

Actually saw the article on the 7pm news, dunno why they're touting it as a breakthrough if cardarines been around since 1992

>>38770696
dayum boi u wild

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>>38770696
Inb4 'post body'

>>38771395
he very well might

yeah the cancer studies were kind of weird, theres no more research being done on it since they were published tho

>>38771394
well it's a very stupid thing to say and other stupid people have been parroting you especially hard this week

>>38771438
>well it's a very stupid thing to say
Naw. You're just retarded.

>>38771438
k

>>38771454
genetic limits don't exist bro

everyone can be Arnold

just work hard bro

>>38771435
How come there hasn't been more research into stuff like this? Sarms have been around for ages, yet there's no real research being done, just because they're on the WADA ban list

Cardarine sounds like it'd be a fuckin rad fat loss supp for hamplanets providing it doesn't give you cancer, I'm not reading much about any other sides

Might actually bring obesity rates down a bit

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>>38770679
Ordering to college dorm y/n pls help

When I pinned last night, some of the test came back out. It's only happened once or twice before, but it's annoying, because I'm wasting gear. It was only part of a cruise dosage though.

Is there any way to make sure it stops happening?

>>38771481
jews and lizard people probably

>>38771482
fine
it's just the same as ordering to your house.
The only thing that will fuck you up is if you are a loud mouth and brag about being on roids/sending them to college.
Most of the shit dorm/colleges get you to sign to live there let them search your room without your permission.
So mouth shut and you will be fine.

>>38771501
Are you z tracking? What gauge needle?

>>38771502
Darn the shapeshifting reptilian overlords

>>38771518
>Are you z tracking?

Never heard that term before. I use a 25g needle.

I just looked it up, and I don't do that. I guess I should start.

>>38771454
>>38771457
Even Llewellyn's anabolics refers to the genetic limit multiple times

Saying it doesn't exist is so stupid I don't even understand what could make you say that

>>38771480
Genetic limits do exist, but the "Natty Limit" is a meme.

Natty 3 work outs a week? 5? 14?
Alright programing? Good programing? Perfect Programing?
6 Hours of sleep? 12?
Hows the diet? Keto? Fasting? One cheat meal a week? Once a month?
What about supliments? Creatine? Caffine?

There's so many variables the "natty limit" is nebulous to the point of unsuability.

>>38771501
Look up Z lock or Air lock methods.
I personally don't worry about it. A drop or two is not a huge deal.

>>38771551
its an oversimplification that gives people idiotic ideas when it comes to steroids
its not as simple as when you gain x lbs of muscle your body just says "no, you cant build any more muscle ever"
but people tend to think thats what it means when they hear "natty limit" which then turns them to the idea of doing "just once cycle bro" to get to their "natty limit" and then just maintain because they cant build muscle anymore

Do you guys think I could take Testosterone anally?

Im pretty sure it would be the same an injecting but a lot easier because you wouldn't have to use needles

Pretty much all drugs are active anally so I dont see why test would be any different. It would get absorbed into the bloodstream just the same as if I injected it in my muscles


Gonna try 150mg e3d, ill let you guys know how it goes

>>38771608
No its oil based and won't easily be taken up in the distal end of the colon. But you can always try.

>>38771574
>but the "Natty Limit" is a meme.
it's not, though

all your variables are inconsequential. at one point, you won't be able to get more fat free mass/maintain it without the usage of steroids. no other factors matter. that's your natty limit and it's a very real thing.

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Fuck I just injected for the first time and am literally shaking with excitement.

Is hiring a bodybuilder coach/trainer worth it if I want to eventually compete at a decent level in men's physique or classic physique?

>>38771655
yes but is it extremely unlikely that you will reach it literally there are people that have been doing natty bodybuilding for 15+ years and is still gaining muscle
https://www.instagram.com/p/BKBkFZOhifM/?taken-by=nunez3dmj

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>>38771578
Ignore what this graph actually says on the axis, on mobile and too lazy to make one properly

But you need to imagine that the X axis is time, and the y is rate of progression for a natty

Yes you can always make progress, but it's going to get to a point where you're training 4 hours every day, eating completely clean, never cheating, sleeping exactly the same hours every day, counting every macro and micro to a t, never drinking or doing drugs, and all for a tiny amount of progress

The reason I roid is to turn it into a more linear relationship: the more you put in, the more you get out

>>38771696
yes but get big first

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if you think you got infected from pinning is there a way to get doctors to check it out without telling them about gear?

>>38771697
If you're >implying he's natty you should go and iv a whole vial of tren

>>38771731
yes just tell them you cut yourself on something

>>38771655
>all your variables are inconsequential. at one point, you won't be able to get more fat free mass/maintain it without the usage of steroids
thats an age thing more than a point of progress
>>38771702
so whats the limit then? when do you count it as being "stopped"?
you could easily argue that the end of your noob gains is the natty limit

>>38771739
https://www.instagram.com/p/BJwXGN2jCpZ/?taken-by=cwteamwilson
ok here is someone with beta genetics like you, maybe you can relate better to him

>>38770679
just aspirated this out of my injection site. gonna go to an urgent care to get antibiotics. what do i tell the doctor?

>>38771608
>2016
>not snorting your roids up your ass with a straw for maximum gainz
>never gonna have glutes of the gods with that extra rectal joociness
>no one will ever know the true prowess of your squatz
>glootz for sl00tZ
>zyzz baby we're makin it fauwk

Hey frauds day 3 into my tbol only cycle in getting ED so fucking embarrassed im going to stop this cycle and do it right only about 240mg anyhow. How long until my dick starts working again? Are there any ways of quickly getting myself back up and running?

>>38771755
Just be honest you retard they cant and wont do anything about your roid use jfc

>>38771808
>Orals cycle
Why do retards do this

>>38771811
wont go on my medical records?

>>38771741
For me, the natty limit is the point where you're making significant work and social life concessions for inconsequential gains. You can make excellent gains long past the noob phase while still doing the things you enjoy, I know I did, but trying to look like Zane as a natty is a pipe dream. You don't get bonus points for doing it natty.

For example, a natty who's way along that spectrum might lose a whole month of gains If he has a weekend bender at a music festival. Will a roider lose progress? Yes, but not nearly as much in terms of time lost. So the roider goes and has fun, albeit for a bit of lost progress, while the natty stays home and continues counting his macros.

Plus, look at guys like arnie. You're never going to look like that natty, period. There's gotta be a brick wall somewhere along the line.

>>38771808
>tbol only cycle
lmao

>>38771835
>There's gotta be a brick wall somewhere along the line.
yes but the way to that brick wall is walking mud that only gets deeper and deeper

>>38771752
I don't have an image for b8 this shit

>>38771835
>For me, the natty limit is the point where you're making significant work and social life concessions for inconsequential gains.
well that is very arbitrary
>There's gotta be a brick wall somewhere along the line
there is, its called aging

>>38770679
Two weeks into my first cycle (500mg test/week) and I'm currently ramping up my calories so that I begin my bulk when the test kicks in.

My question: how hard should I bulk? As in, how much of a surplus?

I was planning on a relatively clean bulk (4-500 cal surplus) to avoid getting overly bloated and gaining fat, but some people are recommending I eat every fucking thing I can get my hands on and aim for 4-5000 cal a day, even if its dirty. Thoughts?

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>>38771862
>aging is the brick wall
So you're saying if you didn't age, your hormone profiles were permanently stuck as how they were in your early twenties, you can build whatever body you want?

>>38771884
Just B & C.

Do you really think turning your nuts on and off at whim and slamming nolva and clomid all the time is healthier?

>>38771909
well seeing how the evidence looks, yeah, but itd probably take hundreds if not thousands of years to get to arnie mode
but youd probably get injured before that

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>>38770696
HAHHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH

lmao

this is god's work. Iam impressed really.

good work anon. i laughed really hard irl

>>38770504
lmao, not saving their pics. Who are you fooling really

A balding arabic man, that's indeed the people who i would exspect

>>38771873
sounds worth it.

>>38771932
On that note, what do you think ol Arnold was running in his "Prime"?

Has he ever mentioned anything?

Obviously his physique was the result of many many years of roids and work, but it would still be interesting to know.

any fraudfags or TRTfags with type 1 diabetes here? i once had a conversation here with someone who was on TRT and had T1 diabetes. how the fuck do i get TRT? i am definitely low test. it wouldn't even be unrealistic, considering that more than half men with type 1 diabetes are low test.
>inb4 blabla fatty etc
type 1 diabetes is an incurable auto immune disease of which the cause is unknown. i am a normalweight male and was underweight as a teen (because thats when i got diabetes)

>>38771834
Yes it will

>>38771962
im not sure hes said much specific but i think its pretty well known that he primarily used test, primo, and dbol

>>38771932
>evidence
(((citation needed)))

Show me a single scrap of evidence a natty test level can support an ffmi of 28+

So by your logic, given an infinite amount of time, I can put on an infinite amount of muscle mass while staying super lean? I can truly leave humanity behind and become the size of a steam train ? Can I mount artillery on my 99" arms and bombard the western front?

>>38771808
Your dick is not gonna work again, ever.

>>38771939
how else would you laugh?
inb4 post pics

>>38771884

Personally I would say go 750-1000 surplus, lift 5-6 days a week and go hard as fuck.
You won't gain much fat if you're lean to begin with.
If you are already above 15% then you're an idiot for not cutting before gear, but in this case then stick to 500 and ramp it up slowly if you feel you can.

Save the dietary cleanliness for cutting. Also B+C if you have any sense. Cycling is just a good way to lose some gains and get more acne.
If you're planning on "just one cycle" then you're a retard.

>>38771998
>Show me a single scrap of evidence a natty test level can support an ffmi of 28+
who claimed this?
>infinite amount of time
this isnt real
there is no perfect theory, theory is used to explain reality
theres obviously some sort of theoretical limit but it doesnt really apply since nobody can realistically reach it

>>38770702
What are your estrogen levels

>>38771939
He was not balding or arabic

Stay jelly of his superior jawnetics mastypoo

He had nicer abs than you too
Mmm I'd have him back but I think he moved to some other province or some shiet

>>38771997
Yeah I'm just wondering how much he blasted.

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>>38772039
>ignoring aging, you can build whatever body you want
>ie a body with ffmi 28+
>evidence points to yes
>(citation needed)
>'when did I say there was evidence lmao'

>infinite amount of time isn't real
Neither is a life in which you live for thousands of years without aging you fucking retard

You are the worst trip on this board
Do you even take steroids
You don't seem smart enough for it

>>38771731
or you sat on a rusty nail.

>>38770731
Anna?

>>38772107
theres no evidence of a discreet limit, besides aging, because aging always sets in first
that means theres no natty person with a 28+ FFMI because literally everybody ages
>Neither is a life in which you live for thousands of years without aging you fucking retard
thats exactly what i said when i said aging is the limit

why are you so angry, friend?

>>38772144
no she's Molly

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>exchange snaps with a girl
>she removes me the next morning

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>>38772098
He was caucasian not a yeti at all

Jellyfags

>>38772157
Tren rage, I've been blasting it for an infinite amount of time

But that point I mentioned earlier, where you can't do things you enjoy because you'll lose a month of natty gains, sets in way before aging, especially when you've been lifting since 16

>>38772168
unsubscribed

So how much would a test only cycle(500), lets say 14/15weeks. including PCT and AI run for, in europe?

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>>38772144
Why tf would a post about kekking at mast gif make you think i was some anna bitch

I bet she doesn't even flat chest

>>38772196
Wait fucking Roxy what??

>>38772180
yeah i agree with that but thats just your personal preference, not an actual physiological limit
i dont judge anyone for "roiding before their natty limit" or whatever, i just wanted to explain why using the term is counterproductive

>>38772184
15 weeks test-e (500) + nolva and aromasin cost me £150

>browse ex's blog
>she has asked me explicitly not to, but it's a public url
>see she slept with a guy the other night
>"you're the last guy I'll ever be with, I just can't be with you because I want women"
>call her out on it
>blocked
>blog post publicly shaming me and threatening a restraining order
Lol stupid slut I moved across the country to get away from you.

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>>38770637
Lol this is weird but ok yeah I agree
>>38768147
When did fraud become tumblr lel
>>38770315
This, this episode describes my feelings on the matter perfectly.
>>38767247
I have much grander ideas for the future, but yeah I suppose if I'm smart I start implementing them as soon as possible. Really getting good with women via this method is going to improve my sociability and networking in general, then I plan to work on networking in general after I'm comfortable with my skill in game, maybe build a business, not sure have a few general ideas of what I *could* do


ESTP, anything ever happen w catfish? Write me dat Der evil sociopathic sloot seduction tactics manual

>>38772239
Bimbo?

>>38772239
>>browse ex's blog
theres red flag number one, blogs=poison.
also, you're a beta.

>>38772212
Are you implicating I should be banging a guy like you? Is that wot this is?

>>38772213
What the hell nigger my name is Molly

>>38772215
Just because there's been no studies into a specific numerical limit, doesn't mean it doesn't exist

Obviously it would vary from person to person, but I imagine there would be a relationship between the limit, height/frame/weight, hormonee, and myostatin expression, and from that, you could probably get a pretty good prediction.

>>38772264
Wait April?

>>38772239
You're ex is dead to you for all you should care mate. Of fucking course she's fucking other guys, did you really believe her?

I still think of lurking my ex's shit, and then I'm like "oh wait, as far as I'm concerned she's fucking dead, will never see or interact w her again, it may as well have all been a dream.

>>38770696
tight. mast, you need a new hobby

>>38770736
You're in Quebec proper?
For sure it's nicer than Saskatchewan if only for that there architecture.

>>38770771
No I'm doing 500mg a week and contemplating either doing a few more weeks at 500mg or fit in a few 750mg weeks within the 12 planned.

And I WAS the perfect candidate but went up almost 4% bodyfat since that picture, still same frame.

>>38771665
Fuck, lot of us in the past week.
Welcome aboard!

>>38771808
240mg of tbol daily?!

A moment of silence for anons liver.

>>38771873
Can you still make gains without sleep when gear is involved?

>>38771884
I thinking eating with reckless abandon might be unwise being as you'll be more sensitive to sodium bloat than usual.

>>38771923
Personally I hope to go off for at least 6-9 months after my PCT if all goes well, if not permanently.

Sounds better then having to be on forever.

>>38770756
How about 200 protein and 400 carbs.

You fucking idiot pumping yourself full of test before knowing how to eat. Enjoy the exploding kidneys :)

>>38770696
Oh fuck this is actually great
>>38772264
Lel ESTP fucked an ISIS member guys, did he tell ALLAHU AKBAR when he came

>>38772289
I couldn't even get hard for another woman. Not beta though. I opened up to this new girl, shattered her expectations and she wants to make me dinner tonight to console me.

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anybody on here ever used accutane? I feel like it completely fucked my testosterone levels, I have been doing some research and apparently it destroys a lot of your androgen receptors

maybe that is why I have all the symptoms of low T but my test results were normal

gonna start pinning soon to see if it helps with anything

>>38772196
resubscribed

>>38772362
It destroys androgen receptors in the skin, not the muscle

So it should actually help in avoiding roidskin

>>38772381
DELET THIS

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>>38772360
>I couldn't even get hard for another woman.
>Not beta though.
>laughingwhores.jpg

>>38772360
If you're the dude from last thread, just fuck the shit out of the new girl and move on.

>>38772389
but has there been any studies to see if it destroys androgen receptors in any other parts of the body?

also wont that affect facial hair growth if destroys androgen receptors in the face?

honestly testosterone would be worth is for me just for the fact it might help me grow a beard

>>38772416
I'm unsure

I don't know what everyone has against accutane desu, I've been on for 14 months and virtually no side effects apart from dry lips

Everyone goes scaremonger every time it gets mentioned

You guys are like single christian mums against vaccines

>>38772360
>I couldn't even get hard for another woman
>not beta though

Chill m8, either you're beta or wrong. Sex w other women might not seem quite as appetizing fresh out of a break up, but assuming you're not a beta pussy ass bitch or gay, if someone sticks a naked hot ass girl in front of you lusting for your dick, you'll get a boner.

Best thing you can do is actually fuck other girls mate, it sounds cold and kind of ducked, but it's going to be the best thing you can do to help you get through it, also she's doing it as well anyways so why the fuck not. There's no pride to be taken in being the heartbroken one out of the two, you need to get your shit together

>>38770756
Lmao what is that diet.
Roiding for 1.5 years and not knowing shit about eating and training.
Get out

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>>38772012
Give credit where credit is due. Shit was funny af.

>>38772061
If you're happy with it, who am i to judge, right babe? As long you're happy. That's the most important thing in life. Be happy with yourself. Love yourself, like i do.

I look at myself in the mirror and can't think of anything than; goddamit i look good. That's why nobody can hurt me. Nobody is better than me

Oh he got nicer abs than me? What a bummer. I really thought i had better abs than him. It was really first thing that came to mind. Really.

I probably sound like a fucking retard, but AI and PCT , the drugs for them are basicly the same right

arimidex, clomid, nolvadex.

So you use the least strong of the bunch for AI and the stronger shit for PCT?

>>38772217

Thats about a 50euro difference on mainland, atleast where im looking. wut,

>>38772466
I tried. The mental block is enormous.

>>38772511
Maybe you guys old as fuck then, in which case grab some Viagra/Cialis which you nearly all take anyways

>>38772521
Arimidex is Ai, others are called SERMS

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>that first pin of the day

>>38772557
How important is taking something like cialis for a basic test cycle? I'm not on yet I'm still a natty pleb

>>38772570

Hey where can I get some?

>>38772548
Well it is harder to get a boner when you're trying to, don't try just let it come naturally breh
>>38772521
No. They're not the same, at all. Research more

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>>38772570

>>38772587
Yeah of course. All I could think of was how much if rather have my ex.

>>38772579
It's not at all, more so for people on large stacks or who are older that have trouble getting it up, or some people just take Cialis because in theory it should give you a pump.

I take it when on Molly to fuck at festivals

>>38772167
She wot m8.

>>38770679
where to get stuff im in goymany any suggestions?

>>38772381
Just wondering since I've had trouble sleeping as well lately due to shift work, I get about 6 hours a day.

And I just caught a cold. Coughing up chunky green phlegm.

Not on superhuman tren either.

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Got bloods done today and I need some help interpreting bloods...

Seeing as the doctor's in the UK seem to know fuck all about roiding it's hard enough to even get them to check for estrogen....

Did they give me the wrong measurent? Should they have given it to me in nmol/L?

Can anybody tell me whether this is high or not?

Thing is when I dose asin on a cruise I start to feel low estrogen symptoms so figured I was too low but maybe I'm too high?

Test is at 4473 at the point of these tests if that helps anybody...

Was cruising at 300mg but now I've dropped down to 150 to see if that's any better...

>>38772621
sst

>>38772581
half the fun is finding a good source, don't spoil that sense of adventure my good man :^)

>>38772619
Dope thanks, I figured it was just to help with blood pressure on cycle if you don't want to do cardio or so stupid shit

>>38772642
sst?

Is dbol 25mg ed for 8 weeks even worth it?

>>38772675
sst.

what ancillaries should I take if I am cruising on 100mg Test E per week?

do I even need an AI at that low of a dose?

Also should I get some HGC too?

I was thinking I buy some Asin just in case I get bitch tits and also I have some Clomid for PCT

>>38772690
nigga

>>38772733
reddit sst

>>38772742
>reddit sst
well its reddit but thank you

Getting lethargic as fuck on this tren cycle. Only one more month till I cruise

>>38772632
Pls respond

shitposting again cuz i srsly need help from you guys

>>38771731 I aspirated this out of my leg this morning because i suspected an infection. I have no infection symptoms besides pain. Is this a sterile abscess or what? I plan on going to the urgent care to have it checked out. should I tell them it's from b12 shots? help pls

>>38772919
RIP

>>38770696
wtf this is awsome

>>38772919
nigga you gonna die a painlessly
just close your eyes & die peacefully

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>>38770696
hahaahahhahha

>>38771939
how does that guy look arab.

a bit too pale dont you think

>>38772268
But the practice of telling people to wait until their "natty limit" would still be useless, which is the point Hungry is trying to make.

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Working in bars and clubs has really put the modern women in perspective for me and made me realize how out of touch I am.

Just Saturday I'm overlooking the dance floor of a very vanilla club, mostly white 18-20 something university students, and here they are all "dancing" to lyrics like "from the front to the back, eat my pussy and my crack."

I don't know anymore.

lmao at everyone hating on estp's hookup.

dude is a big motherfucking handsome guy.

yeah he isnt 20 yo anymore but whatever.

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what do you do if you're experiencing low estrogen symptoms?
I've googled around but it just seems to be ride it out and until your body produces more estro enzymes.

While increasing my test dose or popping some adrol/dbol help?

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>>38773111
I don't care what you say. I think he looks like an arab

>>38773172
lmao at you defending her like a white knight fedora

holy shit the cringe

>butt mmmmm'lady

>>38772706
somebody PLEASE help me out with this

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>>38772706
That's not something we can decide for you. Some people don't even need an ai at 750mg test-e and some need it at 100mg

depends on how you respond to it

if you don't have it, don't hit it

>>38773247
im not defending her.
i am just lmaoing at you for giving this guy shit, even though he is bigger and looks better than you.


>i give credit where credit is due
huuh? not if they are above you right?

>>38773111
They're literal retards

>>38773172
They're just jelly. When I posted his physique back when they mired, egos just getting hurt cuz masT can't stand the idea of his jaw fanclub moving on

He needs the back up for when he finally realizes his gf is ugly and they're oy together out of familiarity and fear of change

Wait can you test if somebody is only using Test E? I am thinking about joining my college swim team, I was pretty fast back in high school so I definitely would be able to make the team If I'm pinning

>>38773248
okay i dont even know why anyone on this world would shut down their system for lmao the testosterone levels of a 30 year old average non-lifting worker.

there is like a 0.1% chance you will need Ai on that dose

>>38773294
>Wait can you test if somebody is only using Test E

what?

>>38773294
>can you test if someone has elevated hormone levels beyond natty highs

Think about this one anon. Better hope you're getting a sports scholarship asking these kinda qs

>>38773297
My levels right now are 490ng, I want to get it up to like 1000ng, I don't really care about bodybuilding I just want to have optimal test levels so I can build muscle and grow facial hair and have more of a sex drive, Why is that so hard for people to understand? Also if I'm at like 3,000ng I have a lot higher chance of harming my organs, getting acne and bitch tits, etc...

>>38773327
Ok but if I had say 1500ng/mL that alone wouldn't be a reason to know someone is using gear right? Sure it's super fucking high but still not unheard of naturally right?

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>>38773275
>he thinks i'am comparing myself to some inferior male
Lmao. That didn't even came to my mind. I just wanted to know what best looking guy she had fucked via the internet.

If you think he looks bigger and better than me, to feel better about yourself, then who am i to judge. Just let all the hate go brother. I feel it, i love it.

never stop hoping and believing

HOPES AND DREAMSSSS


>>38773285
>>38773285
>He needs the back up for when he finally realizes his gf is ugly
awwh i hurt someone's feelings. That's so cute. She als is very creative with insutling me. You forgot to say i'am retarted as well. Remember that hurts me as well. If you do it, do it well.

I don't really care what you think about her, as long i'ám happy with her. That's all what matters. There is no need to call you all kinds of names. Although i can think of a lot tho. Your pics are doing enough damage on itself

>>38773371
They can tell not just cause test levels, but levels of other stuff anon

>>38772632
such a shitty crop on your pic man
what are your est levels? units don't matter - you can always convert to what is well known here (US usually measure ng/dl iirc).

4473 what? units?

what are the lab reference ranges?

>>38772570

PHARMA GRADE
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A
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M
A

G
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A
D
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How hard was it to get 250mg/ml on legal TRT? From what I read online most people are on 100mg/week.

>>38773371
how are you gonna explain your 0 LH/FSH levels and raisin sized balls dum-dum?

>>38773327
>Better hope you're getting a sports scholarship asking these kinda qs
this

>>38772570
Bro where to cop that pharma grade shit

>>38770696
fucking lol

>>38773371
they test testosterone:epitestosterone ratio

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>>38773161
They're all worthless whores
I've been saying it, but everyone in these threads is a cuck white knight

Atleast soon waifus will be real

>>38773161
Where do u bounce? I was going to hit up stereo soon with some friends

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I think i will hit immortal status, if i only get rid of some minor flaws. Thinking about plastic surgery. I'am really obsessed with being flawless.

I also find it very entertaining that you faggots think you have the power to insult me, while having nothing to show for. Please proceed with this amusing act of yours. I really like it. Seriously, i really do.

>>38773350
> i dont care about bodybuilding
>i want to build muscle

you know. those studies that say you build muscle on steroids without lifting is fucking bullshit right?

>>38773510
>Go to a place where being an ultrawhore attention slut is rewarded
>Surprised at girls acting like ultrawhore attention sluts

Find a qt Christian girl senpai. Even if you dont really buy into everything.

>>38772327
quebec city yeah

it sucks ass, gonna be moving to toronto pretty soon probably

>>38772239
hey at least it's good to know you haven't killed yourself yet bimbo

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reminder

dropped to a 100mg cruise, gonna get bloods in 3 weeks and then go to a specialist

>>38773614
Brandon this thread sucks

>>38773614
this is fucking shit honestly cuz i need to fuck something like right now

>>38773563
>an ultrawhore attention slut is rewarded
Modern society?

>>38773675
Not exactly everywhere but most places ye

Find some qts in a context of moral restraint. Church is only one suggestion, if you're serious you can think of more.

>>38773614
how did this even happen.

due to roids?

>>38773614
Your LH and FSH are still going to be crashed though.

>tfw mast is the most insecure person in this general
>tfw jerry is the most alpha

Conflicted senpai

>>38773327
Hey hoe, you don't have to justify yourself to us, now get back to me on what we talked about

>>38773510
It's shameful.
You see them pinba between at least half a dozen guys throughout the night, sucking face and grinding dicks all the colours of the rainbow.

At least ESTP is honest about what she is, embraces it unlike the average whore who puts on airs.

>>38773538
Currently going back and forth between Winnie's on Crescent and Tokyo Bar on St-Laurent.

>>38773564
Ever consider living in Montreal?
Rent is better than Toronto, and if you're sick of the French there are great boroughs like NDG to live in.

>>38773550
>I'am really obsessed with being flawless.
Seems kind of unhealthy senpai.
If you get a botched surgery, I don't want you to an hero.

>>38773733
>Jerry most alpha
This is actually true. Weird. Maybe we should all get Waifu body pillows and transcend to the next step in human evolution. Jerrys ahead of the curve it seems

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>>38773752
>At least ESTP is honest about what she is, embraces it unlike the average whore who puts on airs.

This is true, you can always trust estp to be what she is, you can trust her a lot more than other women, because you know what to expect.

desu, i find her quite refreshing.

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>>38773716
That's why anime was created.

>>38773733
I've always been the most alpha, I don't know why that suprises you

No wonder you have to sell your body for
My ticket

>>38773752
Soon we'll be able to fully embrace 2d
Women should be afraid, soon they'll lose their only value to society

>>38773725
they are not gonna test me for roids specifically, but my parents know all the doctors where i live since they are also doctors. if i go to one of them they'll be like "oh hey your son was here, wtf?" and they'll know somethings up, when i am specifically telling them I don't need a doctor yet.

and my parents already kind of suspect roids so i don't want to risk a CBC coming back with elevated RBC and hematocrit, because then they'll know

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>>38773397
I know I know but my phone cameras fucked not much I can do...

Here's the rest of the info, between the two pics that's the only information on the sheet...

When should a lifter roid?
What benchmarks should someone hit first?

>>38773718
no one knows shit. and there is no way i am the only person on earth who gets a disgusting ass face from roids.

inb4 hodgekins lymphoma from combining tren dnp and accutane

>>38773870
>When should a lifter roid?
when he finally realizes theres no point in lifting natty
>What benchmarks should someone hit first?
knowing what they are doing in regards to diet and training so that they maximize the benefits of the roids

>>38773860
you realize we still can't see the fucking test level - only the reference range

how about you type the fucking results and ranges into TEXT so you don't have to rely on your shitty fucking camera

fuck

if your first pic legit says your estrogen is at 4k (looks like 4465 here >>38772632) then yes it's high as fuck because it's twice what a female's mid-cycle estro levels should be

did you have to make a post to ask whether it's a problem if your estro levels are 2x the max range for a female in the middle of her cycle?

>>38773820
jerry have you heard of summer lesson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIl2-5f8NTo

>>38773798
Even these ostensibly innocent Christian girls anon mentioned probably took a college trip to Barbados for the modern times right of passage of getting Tyroned.

Even the most sheltered girls aren't shielded from the modern zeitgeist of whoredom, and those preprogrammed Mormon girls got fiddled by dad.

>>38773820
Tell me more of these 2d girls.
Why not the 3d realdolls? Apart from the 10k price tag

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>>38773962
>Even these ostensibly innocent Christian girls anon mentioned probably took a college trip to Barbados for the modern times right of passage of getting Tyroned.
>Even the most sheltered girls aren't shielded from the modern zeitgeist of whoredom, and those preprogrammed Mormon girls got fiddled by dad.
This is why you have to gf them before they do any of that

>>38774001
Then you need to move them out to your private island without access to modern media so they aren't bombarded with the sensation that they are missing out, and that feeling of anomie has them film a scene for facialabuse

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>>38773942
Bruh.
I was reading the recent famitsu interview about that just earlier today.
I have been monitoring it closely lol

>>38773962
The pillows are 40 bucks and there's no uncanny Valley

>>38773962
>Even these ostensibly innocent Christian girls anon mentioned probably took a college trip to Barbados for the modern times right of passage of getting Tyroned.
>Even the most sheltered girls aren't shielded from the modern zeitgeist of whoredom, and those preprogrammed Mormon girls got fiddled by dad.

I think you need to get out more. lol

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>>38774074
No he's wise.

Finally someone who is awoke to the world as I am

Are there any roids which are especially suitable for building tendons and bones? I thought about doing a short time to fix some of my injuries.
Got no experience so far.

>>38774113
Deca and hgh

>>38774052
What pillows?
Like the so ronery guy on the bus?

>>38774074
I'm nearly 32, loved, lost and observed.
It's just stronger then they are.
The modern female is lost because of the power of pussy, the flood of validation devices society offers, and that weird dichotomy of thinking their plight as females is at all similar to that of a 40s housewife whilst revelling in modern excess, never any accountability.

Exercise your right to suck all of the cocks, walk around with your tits hanging out but Twitter the fuck out of gratuitous cheesecake in movies but tell me to check my privilege if I point out guys are sexualized in movies to, of course not, it's just a male power fantasy, non pay the bill for me and Tyrone's child.

>>38774113
Also very interested. Torn bicep and broken humerus/shoulder here

>>38774052
i'm so excited for it. i hope a PC version gets released so it isn't cucked and un-moddable.

that would legit give me the motivation to buy a house of my own so i don't have to deal with roommates. right now it just doesn't matter to me

hikari is a qt but i like the blonde too

>>38773962
Not true, just met an extremely sheltered girl last night and holy fuck is it weird. I almost feel bad that I'm gonna try to fuck her, but at the same time I don't because she won't be doing anything she doesn't want to of course, it's just such an easy target is all.

>approach randomly, probably the 50th girl of the day, not the best looking, but not bad either, as far as I'm concerned it's just practice anyways, I'll probably get rejected
>she seems surprised a stopped her, not too surprising to me as girls often are I find
>start trying to make conversation with her
>she's very quiet, says she doesn't go out much, has an accent, gives short responses
>can't tell if she's being short out of disinterest or out of just being shy
>vibe with her a little bit, I can tell now she's actually extremely shy
>agrees to go on date
>we text a little
>"so does this mean this is an official relationship or do we date before? Because I've never been in a relationship before so idk these things"
>oh god what the fuck
>tells me she's very sheltered, and that her brother has his eye on me lol
Lel I'm gonna take her virginity bro, sorry

>>38774270
so what you just go around talking to random girls on the street?

or are you in college? that makes it more believable and less weird

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>>38774270
you better treat her well!

>>38774270
Well whatever she is now you'll likely turn her into a broken cynical cunt like the rest who will proceed to whore herself out instead of falling for the love meme.

Way to go Chad.

But even she would eventually change if you did do right by her.

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>>38770696
>BIG BOY.jpg
>COLOSSAL CLOUD.jpg
>HOT HONEY.jpg
>LARGE LAD.jpg
>POUTY PANTHER.png

criminally underrated kek

>>38774292
Just go around talking to random girls in the street. Not sure why it wouldn't be believable, just because most guys don't have the balls to doesnt mean it isn't possible. Its all about practice mang, I used to suck fucking ass and would shit myself at the thought of complimenting a stranger in public, now I still suck, but I've learned to get over the anxiety a lot, I can approach all day and laugh at myself when I get rejected. I've made friends and got a few dates thanks to it, it's p cool, and I've only been doing it for like a month or so, I figure the longer I do it I'm bound to get better and better, as it's a skill that takes practice to get good at like anything else, until I'm a fucking pimp.

Maybe it is kind of weird, but you know what's weirder? Being a fucking creepy weirdo autist that can't talk to girls or get laid

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>>38774270
You have an opportunity to:
>make it
>fall for the promiscuity meme

>>38774389
height/age?

i didn't mean weird in the sense of cringe but just unusual or out-of-place

good on you for having the confidence
i could never
i feel like i make up the excuses why the girl wouldn't want to talk to me for her and then just don't even try

>>38774389
>tfw turbo manlet
>tfw ugly face
>tfw somehow will never find me attractive because of my looks
my only chance of getting women is through instagram because then I can showcase my "achievements", feels bad

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>>38774270
lmao she played you so fucking hard.

>>38774244
Oct 13th release
>before the ps4k

I think hikari is the only one in the 1st copy, sounds episodic

>>38774211
breh
you are new arent you
>not understanding the roid daki culture

>>38774310
>>38774362

Highly doubt I'd ever get serious w her unless she made some radical changes, so probably gonna hit it and get rid of her ass, or maybe keep as a fuckbuddy if she's down for that. Being sheltered isn't helping her mates, it's just shielding her from the shit world around her, and when she finally has to snap into reality she's fucked, I'd rather be the guy to snap her into reality and help her develop her own resilience to the shit world out there. That being said, I generally consider myself a nice person and intend on treating her as well as possible within this context. But yes groot you are right, I saw it from the beginning, no matter how innocent a girl may be, it's only a matter of time, so I'm really just speeding the process up if anything.

Oh did I mention she's an avg azn qt?

Dropping to a cruise dose fucking sucks
Dick isn't hard 24/7
No raging confidence and controlled aggression
Desire to lift reduced
Gains come slower

I feel so average
Not bad, just not as good as I did on higher doses
Seriously considering going up to 500test for this cut just for the good feels

>>38774389
True enough.
Two summers ago I decided to stop being a beta and randomly talk to cuties, and low and behold, if I struck while the iron was hot I got laid.

>>38774417
Browsed and posted in /fit/ for years but never lingered in fraud because that was for cheating losers with shrinking dicks and I'd NEVER do that.

;_;

>>38773942
As I said between those two pictures is the only information so how about you remove the dildo from deep inside your anus and relax.

I can't give you information that isn't there can I?

And I wasn't sure which is why I was asking, how do I know that measurement doesn't translate to another measurement that's in normal ranges.

>NYS

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>>38774543
Units matter a ton, if they're not on your paper, call the doctor for clarification.

>>38774535
Get with the program, microdik

>>38774394
Kek at that fucking picture mate
At first I was like "damn lol racist as fuck"
Then I literally lol' day "African farts"
Awesome
>>38774409
Yep same breh that happens to almost everyone, it's called approach anxiety, the only way to get over it is just man the fuck up, and start small even if it's like asking for the time, then progressively move up to more difficult shit, eventually you realize they're human just like you and nothing bad will happen. They'll probably reject you, but that's to be expected when you're first beginning, so I just laugh at it and treat it almost like I'm trolling these bitches, and then when you get your first few numbers you're fucking ecstatic, till you realize they're mostly flakes, then you start getting a shit ton of numbers and a few that actually stick, and instadates, that's where I'm at now, now I'm aiming for a same day fuck. Everyone will flame me for this but idgaf RSD has great content on the topic and pickup in general, and isn't like the stereotypical PUA bullshit where they're trying to manipulate and trick girls with some Jedi mind tricks into fucking them lel, they generally preach to just go talk to girls, and then apply some deeper concepts of structuring an interaction, after you take care of the most important thing

>>38770679

so, after first cycle. should i just start cruising untill whenever il blast again. or go through all the hazzle bullshit of PCT, hell cruising only costs like what, 40euro for like 10weeks.

Btw stupid question, but if blasting on test only is 500 and cruising is 200/250, would mean you shoot it the same right , twice a week of 100/125.

>>38774478
Hurt them before they hurt you.
Asians are good at feigning innocence though.

>she probably starred in a squid bukkake video

>>38774529
I still feel average.
FUCKING kick in already!

>>38774417
how long have you been on gear?

your setup looks so /comfy/. are you on orals or is the TUDCA there to offset drinking?

miring that lolinco. /jp/ told me to get a bigger one for 7.5x6 penor but i still want it lol

>>38774575
My dick is comfortably average.
Except condoms fuck me up.
So I stay home and fap.

Fug.
I thought I'd be pip free today after my pin went so well.

>>38774623
4-5 years or something. Most of that has been trt, I've done 4ish blasts.

On 150 adrol +drinking

It's actually a little big lmao
Feels good though, nothing like some quality slow fugsin with you're waifu

>>38774409
Oh and I'm 22 5'7 manlet lel
Height doesn't mean shit unless you're a fucking midget. The reason people think it does, is because taller guys usually have more confidence due to the social stigma that taller guys have bigger dicks. Regardless, if you have the same charisma and belief in yourself as a tall guy would, you would get laid just as much. I have a date with a bad as fuck girl, who's a bit taller than me Friday, and she's the one escalating the conversation into more sexual topics. RSD max has a great vid on this
>>38774411
Read above fag
>>38774417
Jeez that would be the ultimate play if true, wouldn't even be mad desu, would be impressed
>>38774535
Kek yep that's how it is bro, even if you suck fucking ass, if you're playing the numbers game and approaching a lot of girls, you have a way better chance of even just getting lucky with a sloot who's already horny.

>>38774612
Yeah I doubt she's fucked outside the family desu lol, Asians are all into that shit, she has two bros and a dad, and judging her accent she must have just came to America somewhat recently

>>38774606
That depends on you. If you want to cycle, then come off and PCT. if you want to BnC just drop down to a cruise dose and do that.
And it depends on what ester you use but in general your hormone levels will be more stable pinning twice a week vs once.

>>38774543
you are hopeless

can you not look at the paper, type what is written on those papers so they don't have to look at those blurry crops? you haven't even looked at the pictures you uploaded if you think there's enough info there for someone on here to help you

enjoy your gyno and acne, you deserve it

>>38774590
>RSD
what is this

and what do you literally say when you approach a 3d girl? i guess i have made them into such boring/bland creatures in my mind that i don't even think to ask them anything of substance so even if i manned up i'd be stuck at the "asking for time" stage forever

good luck with the same day fuck thing. that'll make your ego swell up like nothing else if you can pull it off

>>38774680
fucking hell man, that's inspiring that you can pull this off as a 5'7 manlet

>t. 5'8 manlet

literally the number one excuse i make to not talk to girls is that i'm too short. also where i live the average height is 6'+ it seems like.

>>38774590
are you black?

>>38774575
Yeah I'm gonna speak to the doc tomorrow...

Just run the numbers through a convertor and it's saying my e2 is 1987 ng/ml

And that's a day after I took 6.25 asin when I got bloods done....could that have affected the test?

This is fucking strange whenever I take I feel fucking weird and lethargic and always attributed this to low e wtf is going on...

Pls help me jerry I'll promise to try and not judge you for banging a pillow.

>>38774805
>Just run the numbers through a convertor and it's saying my e2 is 1987 ng/ml
finally you posted something sensible
this is way too fucking high
i'm surprised you don't have gyno already
crash e2 with no survivors

Natty here, have a question about BnC:
Why blast first? Is it just for a period of gains that requires unsustainable doses? Or could you permablast, but people just normally don't?
What's the benefit over just jumping on a cruise dose and calling it done?

>>38774727

Cool, thanks

>>38774827
To be fair not once have I said I was smart....

So why do I feel like shit everytime I take asin?

I thought I was crashing my estrogen that's why it's so high probably....

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>>38774805
>1987 ng/ml
Either you are retarded and fucked up the conversion or you are about the get some real juicy gyno.

US labs measure in pg/mL and reference range for males is 7.6-42.6 pg/mL. You have 1987 ng/mL which is almost 2million pg/mL.

My money is on you messing up the conversion. I still haven't seen the real # because of shitty pics and lack of TYPING EXACTLY WHAT IS ON THE RESULTS INTO THE MESSAGE BOX and posting.

Honestly man just schedule an appointment with a doctor and figure this out. No one here is going to be able to tell you anything beyond "take more asin."

>>38774874
>I thought I was crashing my estrogen that's why it's so high probably....
Wut

Maybe you should take a break from gear and try to sit down and really figure out how this stuff works. Lurk moar etc

>>38773185
Boron seems to work. There's a thread on gh15 about it. I'd try 6-9mg.

Is mk677 liver toxic at all?

>>38774751
Don't talk to girls
It inflates their value of self worth and ego

>>38774805
No you can judge me for being superior

Are you sure that conversionshe right?

>>38774874
Asin is shit
Take adex like a man

Is it okay to use ephedrine before 95% of my workouts?

just concerned about health

>>38774964
You can see all the information that I have in front of me in those two pics.

I know they are not exactly great pics but unless you are legally blind you should be able to see them.

And I know enough to get by.... obviously I'm not brofessor roidington but still...

My BP is fine I'm not experiencing high estro symptoms, my dick still works ( still banging your mother)

So I'm trying to figure it out is all...

And I meant when I take asin I feel like shit as if my e2 is really crashed so obviously I stop taking it so I'm not sure what the problem is.

On the sheet it says my serum oestradiol level is ~4465

Obviously you saw the ranges for a woman at mid cycle so....

Besides from using a convertor which I appatently fucked up what do you suggest?

Guys, i need some advice.

i got my test checked and got these results (i'm 19):

test is at 250 ng/dl
free test is 14.6 pmol/l

the free testosterone is in the normal range, but the TEST is just barely below the range.

i want to ask, is this hindering my gains? should i see my GP about a test booster to get myself in more test ranges?

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uhhh so I got my blood tests back and Im fucking ANEMIC

what the FUCK? what could be causing this? never done steroids before but I think I might have to start, this definitely explains why I cant make any gains and feel like shit all the time

>>38775054

stay away from my mom

>>38775102
Yes. Get on test, not a test booster

>>38775139

wouldn't taking test push me way past my normal ranges? if it really is holding my progress back, i'd just want to get back into normal test ranges (well, upper average would be nice) and get back on natty progress.

>>38775166
Like anything medicine , how much you take matters
100mg/week Got me to 800ng/dl

For reference, I forget how much, but I was pinning 5x a week, but hcg and pregnenolone got me to ~550ng/dl

>>38775166

You have done 0 research. The average for your age is more than double of what you have.

You ideally want to be around 35-40 nmol/l or 1000ng/dl+.

>>38775180

250 got me to "YOU NEED TO LOWER YOUR DOSE."

It was around 50nmol/l. Little less iirc

>>38775189
where are you getting your information from, if i might ask?

from what i could find, the average for my age is about 640 ng/dl, from what i can see. i'm just below the bottom cut-off for the normal range (260-1040)

How do you make friends these days?
Gym/uni is pretty heavy time wise to the point that I can't keep contact with people.
I can't go on trying to bang random girls from tinder or from the uni like nothing.

>>38774728
Real Social Dynamics, look em up on YouTube

Ehh, depends on context really. I try to avoid boring interview style questions, (what do you do for fun? Where are you from? Are you in school/working etc)but at the beginning that's like all I did, and I still do it if I can't think of anything better at the moment. The more comfortable you get with it and being rejected, the less you give a fuck and you start to conversation with them like you would a guy almost. Then you realize you're being too friend to friend and that you need to actually come accross as man to woman. And I'd really rather not swell up my ego desu, the concept I've learned of recently is more of having a high self esteem no matter what, rather than forming an ego based on successes and failures.

>>38774751
Bro, you think that's inspiring I'm fucking telling you, watch this: https://youtu.be/j1UZe5Z62X4
This dude is crazy good and he's about as tall as me, pulls tall girls, is a fucking pimp pulls tens probably almost daily. He has a video of a girl chasing his ass grabbing his dick and shit, a video of pulling a girl back to his room literally without saying a word to her. It's fucking amazing

is it possible to see the same person on tinder? I thought once you swipe left or right they are gone forever.

>>38774780
I'm pasty white as fuck, Irish genes :^)

I'm also Natty and don't lift anymore by the way guys, haven't been on gear for like a year, I've lost like 30 lbs and am skinny fat.
>>38775017
The way I deal with over inflated egos is saying shit that makes them insecure, and bam they're trying to prove themselves to you like that. Kind of like this one time I told a girl "i look at you like a little sister, I could never see you in a sexual light" and proceeded to watch her dress sexy as fuck and throw herself at me.

>>38775220

For muscle building and lifting higher is better.

And even ballparking it, I havent looked up exact numbers in over a year, I was spot on.

I was diagnosed with low T as well.

The 260-1040 is a huge age range, look it up. Yours should be more around 600-1200.

Actually, I believe it peaks around 22-25. Which I was basing this on. So the averages might be slightly lower under 20.

http://books.google.com/books?hl=en&lr=&id=efEnI1VdmtsC&oi=fnd&pg=PA3&dq=Declining+Androgens+with+Age:+An+Overview&ots=vIRdqQ3RBF&sig=-X1AP3-lXgXB8SCDI0EwH8GOtDA

Average 25-34 is 500-700. And it's already in decline at 25.

>>38775195
Lmao
I hate doctors

>>38775318
Yeah that's good.
But don't bang them.

>>38775258
damn i always thought pua stuff was lame but this might be the only salvation for manlets

thanks for sharing bro

Ordered a bunch of gear2 weeks ago. Aromasin, tren A, test prop, anavar and clomid.
I just got the entire package again. What do I do?

>>38775356
ship it to me

>>38775323
thanks for providing a source.

maybe this is a weird question, but what do i tell my doctor to get him to hook me up? of course i'd bring my lab results with me, but what do i say, what should i know?

>>38774612
>Asians are good at feigning innocence
Don't talk to me about Asians. Fuck.

>>38775408
Look him dead in the eyes and tell him "Doc help me get my dick back."

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>>38772466
>or gay
Well, he has had a larger variety of dick than pussy in the past half year to be fair

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I did blood work and my ggt levels are low and alp are high. Wtf does this mean?

Everything else is fine. I'm seeing my doctor in two weeks. I was planning to start pinning next week (test e beginner cycle) so I may put it on hold if this is serious. I'm staying away from orals anyway.

>clean bulk @ 22x bodyweight calories.
>ate whole turkey leg and 500g vegetables and 5 eggs 8 hrs ago
>that was only 1300 calories

Fuck im still kinda full. All i can take atm are 2 scoops and soymilk(lactose intolerant).

Still 8 hrs to go and more than 2000 calories god save me.

>>38775561
How much do you weigh?
3300 calories isn't much, so I'm assuming that's not all of it?

>>38775767

Miscounted im 180lbs eating 4k.

Still got over 2k to go. Had 750ml soymilk and 3 scoops. Hotta snack in 3 hours then 3 hours later before i startgetting ready for bed.

>>38774099
>Finally someone who is awoke to the world as I am
That's nice, but when are you going to get as awoke as me?

>>38775968
You destroyed your penguin sheets
You're not even a 1/3 as woke

>>38776038
I think those sheets are in storage, actually.