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>>38694290

How do i start HIIT or sprinting excercises? I live next to a great park for running, but its quite crowded with other joggers and commuters and i dont want to look like an idiot sprinting full speed among them. Also wont risk freaking out some random woman at nighttime.

Also programs / infographs / anything on the subject?

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>>38694607
I like bridge overpasses for sprinting
>pic related

>>38694290
those shoes are disgusting

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Not trying to be an edgelord or whatever, but running through a large cemetery is very nice. It's quiet, pretty, and there's very little traffic. Going during the early morning is especially nice because the deer that live in the woods there are out walking around, and of course pleasant temperatures.

>>38694889
until you run into a grieving family

fuck that noise

>>38694607
Maybe find a track? Ask your local high school if you can run on their track in the evenings.

>>38694889
This. Tried it out during the Pokémon Go crazy, and it was one of the most gorgeous places I've run in the city. Just don't male a lot of noise, and stay away from mourners.

>>38694290
>Remove brick shoes

>>38694663

These shoes are comfy as fuck for long distances. Hoka One One is the future.

Sprints are essential

Anyone here used nike frees or whatever the fuck they call them now?

Poorfag here, what are the best, cheapest shoes I can buy? Thinking like some crappy asics or something

Marathon season is upon us.

I'll appreciate a blogpost from whoever ran one these past weeks, or will run one in the coming weeks :)

Kind of wanting to buy some running shirts but can't be assed to spend money on something when a normal t shirt would work fine. Meh.

>>38696809
good luck with your chafed nipples from shitty cotton t's

>>38694607
>Sprinting
>In a park

>>38695995

Zoot from amazon

>>38696944
Lo siento about your shitty nipple genetics. Nipple ups xF

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>>38694290
2comfy

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Who /minimal/ here? I'm so in love with my vibrams. I love the footfeel of running in them.

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>>38694290
Got these recently as a birthday present for myself

I started running around the beginning of summer but actually haven't been running as much recently because I feel a loss of motivation, maybe due to summer ending, so I'm gonna try get up early tomorrow and actually run to get back into the routine.

Question, should I do sprints regularly as well as jogging? because I feel as if the motivation loss is due to having no real goals, maybe trying to be a fast sprinter would help.

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I run in these. They're ok.

>>38697963
i once barefoot ran in a forest and i felt demons tickling my feet.

was cool tho.

ALSO

Can anyone tell me if Brooks is a good brand for those who run trails? :) k thnks love u bros

>>38697963
>vibrams

They got sued for making false claims about their shoes that actually damaged people's feet and backs. Good luck with your meme shoes.

>>38698021

Sprints are better if you want to build muscle and lose fat.

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>>38698097
>feet are actually bad for your feet and back. Before shoes were invented there was nothing for it

>>38698153
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vibram
Its literally on the fucking wiki page. But if you want to ignore scientific for the sake of your pride over a pair of slippers I guess thats fine.

>>38698153
Feet are made to run on soft ground like sand or grass. Not hard ones like asphalt or concrete.
If you run in an urban area or on roads, you need running shoes.

>>38698054
>Brooks

Yeah they make good stuff. Can be pricey though.

>>38697963
I've got a pair of nikes made for barefoot running. It's awesome. I've yet to experience knee pain.

>>38698321
If you say so it must be true. [It isn't.]

>>38698097
What happened was fat neckbeards and longtime house wives fat feminists put these on after years of wearing actual meme shoes with high heels that put emphasis on heel to toe strike. So when they went to use the new "miracle" glove shoe that they are too stupid to understand needs a break in period they hurt themselves not because of the shoe but because bad form and an ubrupt new stretch on their tendons and joints.

I just bought a pair of the asic gel 5s. Did I make a good decision? They're comfy as fuark.

>>38698514
This. Most blogs that "shill" these tell you to do only 10% of your normal distance for the first couple weeks, bumping it up gradually and not to just go at is 100%. To give your feet time to adjust because you are using muscles in your feet that shoes don't even allow you to use.

>>38694607
Just go to your local high school on the weekends and just start start running on the track. I dont think anyone would really care. A lot of people from the city usually do this.

>>38698578

I think Brooks and Asics make the best shoes overall in terms of running.

>>38694607
You better not be overweight or say bye to your knees.

>>38695995
361 at aliexpress.

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>>38694290
just picked these up last weekend

>>38696944
>>38696944
I just get whatever is cheap at a thrift store. I only use them for working out so they die within a year and I'm not spending money on something that won't last. I only buy proper sportwear for hiking tho because my life might depend on it.

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>>38699176

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>>38699188

>>38697963
And the vibram shill had to appear. Stop spreading this nonsense. Some recovering fatty or kid might get injured by falling for this meme.

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>>38699201

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http://runrepeat.com/expensive-running-shoes-are-not-better-than-more-affordable-running-shoes-study

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>>38699214

See:
>>38699251
Best you can get for the price

>>38699268
These shoes are the most comfortable shoes I have ever put on my feet

>>38699212
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/georgia-teen-dies-from-drinking-too-much-water-gatorade/

Let's not factor in stupid people into decisions of what is worthy and not.

>>38697963
>I love the footfeel of running in them.
How fast and/or far do they allow you to run?

Is the 300 - 600 miles per pair of shoes a meme?

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I like my shoes, long time friend of my dad recommended them to me with a discount.

>>38699405
Depends on conditions. The terrain will decide how fast you can run because certain terrains necessitate more concentration on where you place your foot but as far as far, as far as you want to run when your legs are conditioned to running in them. They are very durable.

So am I the only one that runs in Mizuno?

Almost picked up some Adidas Manas earlier, but went with some asics that I've read were great. Did I do good, guys?

>>38696597
Got a 50k training run coming up in November, 50 mile tune up race, and 80 mile in January. Will blogpost if there's interest

>>38699670
Do it senpai, my goal is to run a half marathon with my dad, or a marathon if he's still able. Still got a long ass way to go.

I have wide feet. Im probably a US size 9 but my wide feet makes me go 10.5. Anyone else with this problem found a good pair?

>>38699798
Just get a 9 wide shoe, nigpai.

>>38699734
Sure thing.

I'm coming off triathlon season, so I didn't have as much base built as I wanted when August rolled around. Currently running Bryon Powell's training plan for a 100 mile race on 50 miles per week again because I really liked how well it worked for me last time.

I finally have the mileage feeling just hard enough to where it's challenging, so I'm looking forward to sleeping a lot and getting fast. Last week was 6,5, and 7 miles on Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday and a back-to-back on Saturday and Sunday for 18 miles and 7 miles. They both hurt. A lot.

Honestly, the biggest struggle so far has been figuring out which pains I can still push through and which pains are the ones that need rest. Nobody likes having to skip a run, and it's even hatder to justify when you're on a deadline. I jacked up my right foot on the Sunday run, so it's been stretches and rehab for the last two days.

I'm really excited to take on the rest of this week (7 of 25) because it's supposed to be a challenging one that'll push me just hard enough to where I'll need the deload for week 8.

Goals: I want to break 5:00 on the 50k given that I'll be doing it alone on trails, and it's supposed to be a training run. The 50 mile is strange. Last year my headlamp was way too dark, so I was not prepared to spend nine hours running through unlit trails without company. This year I want to start in the middle of the pack and stay there. The 80 is a tricky one. It's gonna be my first winter ultra with required gear and no aid. For now, my primary goal is to not die. Temperatures are expected to be right around 0 degrees F, so heat and food are everything. Other than that, it's too early to say.

>>38699798
New balance makes great wide shoes. Look for size followed by 2E or 4E. I need 4E so you probably do too.

>>38699176
Oh shit, I just bought this same shoe on saturday. The last pair I ran in was aesic nimbus, and holy fuck those shoes were like walking on a cloud and running on marshmallows. As soon as I tried these on I felt the same way.

I don't know what the fuck is wrong with my body, but I seem to be getting injuries left right and centre.

I sprained my ankle back on April 19th, and then rolled the same ankle two weeks later, I took 7 weeks off and then started running again around mid-June, I done a single week of running and got a strain on the top of my right foot (nevacular) which was apparently because my laces were too tight, so I sorted that out, took about a week off and started running again, then at the start of August I got a bacterial infection and had to take 3 weeks off running, I started up again mid-August and as of last Friday I was walking to the bar in some smarts shoes and suddenly developed a ton of pain on the bottom of the left foot, it hurts whenever I walk, so now I have to take time off again.

My routine is pretty basic, I do a 2 mile run on Mondays, half mile jog/half mile sprint X2, a 30 minute build run on Thursday (10min jog, 10min run, 10min sprint) and a 3 mile best effort on Saturday.

What the fuck is going on with my body? I'm 72kg 5' 9", I lift 4 days a week and done a couple mud runs last year so I'm in good shape, I run in Nike RN5's which are super comfy.

TLDR
>keep getting injured
>sprained ankle mid-April
>rolled ankle end of April
>strained nevacular in July
>bacterial infection (unrelated I know) August
>now have pain on bottom of left foot when walking

>>38694290
Running shoes for manlets?

Also, newbie question, is running faster more efficient? Because of momentum?

>>38702323
why would running shoes be different for a manlet? just get the shoe in your size wtf.

>>38702325
I was talking about the massive block on that shoe making you taller when you wear them.
Genuinely sorry is you felt offended.

>went to gym first time yesterday
>did squats
>can barely walk
>have to go to run today

Rip me

>>38702345
just don't. this will only make your insecurity so much worse

>>38702559
Not sure what you're on about.

>>38699454

Just change them when they start to look worn out.

>>38699454
how long do you think running shoes last?

some will be shit after 400km, some will be fine well over 1000km.
but eventually you will notice how shoes become worn-out anywhere between 400km to 800km. then again how well they can last depends on a large variety of factors.

but if you think shoes last years and years, you just don't run enough

>>38702512
Rip gainz

>>38702704
Data point - I've put 650km on my Nike Zoom Pegasus 9's and they still feel fine to me

>>38698054
There's a few good trail running brands. The best by far is Salomon tho.

>>38702885
I'd recommend getting another pair, preferable 3-4 pairs that you can cycle.
You will notice big differences when using a fresh pair with less than 100km on them, compared to a more used pair with over 600km on them.

Rotating a larger number of pairs allow them to last longer (not just because of spreading their use over the years) but because the shoes themselves recover 2-3 days after use back to pre-run form.

I use my older pairs still for short to medium runs (5-15km) but for +20km runs I prefer to use the newer pairs, simply because they offer better support due being more "fresh".

>>38702898
>Salomon

Can confirm. The Finns know what's up.

>>38702938
Thanks for the advice. I run on trails and on bitumen - any recommendations for a good shoe/brand that can handle both terrains well?

>>38702512
goes away after 2-3 times of squatting desu, keep at it

Are there any good HIIT programs to follow? I've been following this one for a few weeks, but it doesn't feel especially good. Should I stick with it or move on?

Phase 1 (1:4): Weeks 1-2

15 seconds: High-intensity exercise
60 seconds: Rest or low-intensity exercise

Repeat another 10 times, followed by a final 15-second high-intensity blast. Total time: 14 minutes
Phase 2 (1:2): Weeks 3-4

30 seconds: High-intensity exercise
60 seconds: Rest or low-intensity exercise

Repeat another 10 times, followed by a final 30-second high-intensity blast. Total time: 17 minutes
Phase 3 (1:1): Weeks 5-6

30 seconds: High-intensity exercise
30 seconds: Rest or low-intensity exercise

Repeat another 11 times, followed by a final 30-second high-intensity blast. Total time: 18.5 minutes
Phase 4 (2:1): Week 7-8

30 seconds: High-intensity exercise
15 seconds: Rest or low-intensity exercise

Repeat another 25 times, followed by a final 30-second high-intensity blast. Total time: 20 minutes

>>38702617
>t.manlet

>>38703334
These HIIT programs are really weird

You don't get enough rest and because of that there is no way anything other than your first run can be truly high intesnity

Pls post marathon training girl ;_;

>>38702302
>What the fuck is going on with my body?
You're running way too hard and your routine makes no sense. You have three quality days and zero easy/long days on like 10 miles per week, plus 4 days of lifting. Anyone would get hurt on that.

At the very least, you should run longer and easier on Mondays and Saturdays. Maybe do intervals on Thursdays, but frankly you run so little it's not really necessary.

>>38698054
Brooks Mazama seem dece.
Definitely Salomon or inov-8 for trails though anon, depending on how muddy/dry/loose/rocky the terrain.

t. worked in Specialist run shop for 4 yrs and ongoing

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>>38694290

Also, to put it to bed forever, don't bother buying 'barefoot' shoes for 99.999% of people.
Just do some barefoot strides on grass/soft ground after a session and increase this little segment a bit each week. This helps with form, but means you still get proper grip/cushion/stability for actual running.

If you want to run "naturally", just go barefoot and run slow af in Africa with just a loincloth and Pinole/Ugali. If you want to run fast and well, use a shoe that works with your foot, ideally more minimal and lighter. Lightweight shoes offer benefit via cushion and rebound, whilst minimal disadvantage of weight (<~180g per shoe). Proper mileage/distance/trail shoes are more durable and give a little extra protection for most training.

t. running shop guy again

>>38703075
Salomon Sense/x-scream (basically the city trail range), Brooks puregrit if you want more minimal/inov-8 trail talon.

If trails are particularly dry, with only rocks, then maybe Brooks ghost/launch or really any decent road shoe with a medium thickness midsole and half decent outsole (aka fuck no to nike frees, adidas anything etc)

>>38702885
>>38702938
Can confirm. Rotate pairs, especially slightly different ones (eg pegasus and zoom elite) as they'll work your feet slightly differently and have differing uses (eg mileage and tempo/intervals/racing respectively with the peg/elite)

>>38702702
Midsole will likely be fucked way before they look used and done.
Stick hand inside and feel for really squidgy or very firm/flat cushion where your foot has depressed it (heel, ball of foot, big toe)

t. run shop guy

>>38699604
Only use their race shoes (ekiden, jp versions look dope too, but hard to get)
Most are just too high in heel/firm riding all over for me

>>38699627
Asics are p good, especially if they fit your feet.
desu if you didn't get them from a specialty running store, pop in to your local and ask if they can check your gait in them. Most won't mind, just buy something (maybe a t-shirt or gels or good socks) so you don't mooch off them. Also a great time to get advice/ask if they have or know of good local run clubs

t. run shop dude

>>38695995
If you have good mechanics you can run in literally anything. I knew a guy who BQ'd who always ran in Payless brand. It's if you have probation issues etc you will need some stability features. Don't believe those stupid fuckers that tell you less is more.

>>38696944
I love cotton in hot weather. All that wicking tech gear is bullshit - it feels like wearing a sausage casing. You need to evaporate sweat from your skin to get cool. Evaporating sweat from the outside of your shirt is not cooling. Band aids for nipples and you're good for a twenty miler.

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>>38694290
>tfw

>>38698487
>If you say so it must be true. [It isn't.]

In 2012, a lawsuit was filed against Vibram over claims made about their Vibram FiveFingers minimalist shoe. Vibram claimed that the shoe "reduce[s] foot injuries and strengthen[s] foot muscles." A controlled study published in 2013 showed that the risk of bone marrow edema among new wearers was actually increased during the period of transition to minimalist shoes.[5] While Vibram has "expressly" denied "any actual or potential fault…or liability,” on May 7, 2014 it was announced that company has moved to settle the suit and agreed to set aside $3.75 million to pay refunds of up to $94 to anyone who had purchased the product since March 21, 2009.[6]

Is there some sort of /fit/ approved guide for HIIT or something?

I do several 6k runs a week, but want to replace one with a session of hill sprints.
There is a suitable hill near me (once I manage to tune out all the people in traffic undoubtedly staring at me) and it takes 30 or 40 seconds to sprint to the top.

How many sprints should I go for in a session?
How long should they be?
Should I rest fully between them or not?
etc

>>38704144
well, my advice would be to have enough "calming" between the HIGH INTENSITY runs, so that each run can actually be high intensity.
Meaning you don't keep the pedal down, but let the motor cool down so that next speeding time you don't overheat or misperform.

As your peak fitness increases, so does your ability to keep up high intensity training.
So start slow with lot of rest period, then as your body reaches its final forms, have less rest.
Even if it means starting with one HIIT per running session. Even if it is a very short one.

then again, each body is different.

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I'm going to run a 100k in 2017. Anyone here done any running that's not fucking C25K?

I'm considering doing the Mozart 100 in Austria (I live in Scandinavia), but I'm not sure yet. I've done an ironman triathlon, but 100k should be a lot harder.

Also, contrary to what is recommended in most running stores, I do long distance running in minimalist shoes. The big shoes feel heavy, clunky and actually hurt my ankles, funnily enough.

Any stories/experiences with ultra running?

>>38702323
No. More wind resistance. Running faster does, however, develop running economy. The better your running economy, the more efficient your running is at any speed. That doesn't mean all of your runs should be fast, but it does mean some of them should be.

>>38704860
Marathon coming up this Sunday.

>>38704860
Yeah. Obviously, walk the steep uphills and jog when you can. I've done 50k, 50mi, and 100mi, but never 100k. All I can say is that you need to be doing base training now if it's in the first half of the year.

Practice your downhill running, so the trail won't murder your quads too early. Practice your eating strategy on long runs.

Do not start at the front of the race unless you intend to stay there for the whole race. Burning yourself out by staying in front is a massive waste of mental energy.

>>38705044

You've done 100 miles? That's amazing, man. Which race did you do?

What do you reckon a normal training week for 100k preparation should look like?

>>38694290
Tips for dealing with shinsplints?

I'm following couch to 10k - need to get up to 3 mile jog for a job I want - but I'm not sure what the speed I should be going for is. I've heard 6 miles an hour is a good target, but does that mean I should be doing all my jogging segments at 6 mph, or do I need to build up to that? And what about walking sections?

>>38704993
Godspeed anon :)

>>38705150
Jogging segments should be at a pace you're comfortable with. Basically, you should be able to hold a conversation while jogging without gasping for air. Don't worry about speed yet.
Do the walking sections at a brisk pace.

>>38705377
Okay, thanks a lot, that's a huge help. I'll dial it back to 5 for now and then definitely keep it at 3 for walking.

>>38705343
Thanks. I'll need all the support I can get. Though it is my fourth, I'm coming off a recent hernia surgery so I only had two months of training. But, I was able to get the 20 miler two weeks ago so I should be good.

>>38705077
I did the Zumbro 100 this April in Minnesota. It was a lot of fun, but people aren't kidding when they say 100 miles is 4 times as hard as 50.

Personally, I run 6-12 miles on Tuesday and Thursday with a 4-7 mile recovery on Wednesday. Thursday is speedwork, but that's just to keep me sane.

Saturday and Sunday are 16-22 miles followed by 7-10 miles.

Monday and Friday are rest days.

A lot of people do better with more mileage, but I've found that right around 50 is a sweet spot for me, or I'll get too many injuries. I really recommend Bryon Powell's book Relentless Forward Progress if anyone's just getting into the scene.

>>38705843

Noted. Thanks for the input, friend, and good fucking job on the 100 miler. That's my dream.

Currently doing 5-6k runs multiple times a week. Not training for anything in particular apart from just staying fit.

I would like to improve times though. A sub 20 minute 5k would be great. My fastest one ever was 20:51 but most are around 22 minutes

How do I improve my times? Any specifics or is it just "train harder and push yourself"

>>38705936
You can do it, man. It's one of the moments I'm most proud of in my life, but if I can do it, anyone can.

>>38705961
Most runs should be at a comfortable, easy pace. Speedwork (intervals, repeats, etc.) once or twice a week. Long run once a week. That's it.

>>38704860
yeah, marathon coming up on Saturday

I tip my imaginary hat to anyone who is lunatic enough to go for even longer distance.

Minimalist shoes sound scary, I'm still in love with my heavier but more cushioning ASICS Gel-Kayanos.
Shitty terrain and somewhat heavy for a runner, so not sure if I should try lighter shoes.

>>38706638
Once you go longer than 50k, it's actually a really relaxing way to race. You absolutely can't make it across the finish line without training though.

>>38694290
I've decided I'm gonna do a marathon next year. I usually just knock out a 5k when I can be bothered a few times a week at about 25 minutes, the occasional 10k in under an hour.
What kinda routine should I be looking at so I'm not just happy I finished, but actually hitting a decent time?
I was thinking of something along the lines of

>Monday - 6k
>Tuesday - 5k
>Wednesday - Rest
>Thursday - 600m intervals
>Friday - Rest
>Saturday - 10k
>Sunday - short slow recovery run

Then keeping up with that but upping the distance, so adding a k to saturdays run each week and half a k or so to the shorter runs. And making the intervals more intense/faster.

>>38707721
you'll burn out with overtraining
google some first time marathoner guides, no one here is a real expert, we might have some personal anecdotes but each body is unique.

Myself, I kept running 3-4 times a week, doing one 30km and few dozen 21kms and loads of 15kms and 10kms during the year before my first. Then again my only aim was to finish the race.

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>>38707721
Your Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday could give you problems. I like your Saturday, Sunday because that lets you get a lomg run followed by extra miles on tired legs.

I really think you should pick a Higdon or Pfitzinger program if you want a well-made program.

>>38694607
I'd just start sprinting towards the kids as they get off the bus anon, thats prob your safest bet.

This happened today:
>wake up, immediately have to take a shit
>it's liquid
>repeat shitting an additional two times in the afternoon
>8 pm, time for a 10k
>after 2.5 kilometres, get the urge to shit
>there is a porta potty nearby but it has no lights, and I don't wanna poo under a tree either
>urge goes away
>decide to risk walking home
>10 minutes later
>have to shit again
>can't hold it in this time
>shit in the grass near a 500 m long straight section of the bike path with no trees or anything to hide behind
>start wiping
>Idon'tthinkIhaveenoughtissuesforthis.jpg
>decide to drag my ass on the wet grass like a fucking dog to clean off most of the diarrhoea
>it somehow works
>finish wiping with the remaining tissues
>go home and take same anti-diarrhoea pills
Somehow miraculously I didn't even get shit on my clothes or my shoes.

>>38707871
Those are human shoes?

Gonna do a half marathon this weekend but the most I ever ran was 15km. People I know say that because of the atmosphere you can run more than you are used to. Is that true? Can I conjure 6 extra km out of my hat?

>>38708726
Imagine the territory you marked for all the dogs that go there. They would be thinking that a giant dog just took a shit there.

>anything else but asics gt 2k

haram

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>>38707863
>>38707915
Noted. I could take away Mondays 6k and just do that on the Tuesday instead?
Or I could just look at those other programs tbqh.

>>38694290
>after 2 months of semi-serious trainning I finally ran 5k under 25 min

feels good, man

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>>38708827
you should be ok assuming you weren't completely dying at the end of the 9 miles.

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Nike Flyknits

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Adi Y-3

>>38709192
>>38709133
>>38709104

Look too nice for serious running

>>38709213
All up to you, man.

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>>38709192
the fuck are those

would be ashamed to leave the house wearing those ugly moon boots

>>38709273

Personal taste.
Comfort.

>>38705130

Stop running completely until healed. Consider Hoka One One shoes when you start again. Clifton 3 is a good option, Saucony Kinvara is another to look at. Stretch daily.

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Nike Sockdart.
Oreo colourscheme.

>>38709252

It's a waste of money desu. They are nice for casual wearing.

>>38709404

More /fa/ than /fit/

Any tips for running in hot weather? Was trying to run a sub 20 minute 5k today but the heat got to me and I had to pack it in and reduce the pace significantly towards the end. I'm a britbong so I'm not used to this shit.

>>38709405

Oh yeah, for sure.
This is just taste.

>>38709474
I just run at the gym, fuck this heat.

While we're at it - any tips for running in cold weather? I tried running in winter but it's killing my throat on every attempt.

>>38709518

Turtleneck sweater, tight scarf.

I'm pretty skinnyfat and I've recently started lifting. How do I maximize fat loss and muscle building with cardio?

I started the c25k program last week and I just want to run every day

Why can't I run every day? Can I run everyday? I've instead been running one day and cycling the next.

I'm not overweight if it's like a joint issue

>>38709569

You body needs to rest. If you feel like going just do it but rest when you feel tired.

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>>38709518
I use an elastic scarf in the winter (pic related), although it does get wet from the water condensation after a time. Also don't put on too many clothes, because you'll end up overheating. Ideally you should feel a little cold while you're just walking in your running clothes.

>>38709563

Sprint training. http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/sprint_training_sculpts_body.htm
HIIT https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfKZdBTS4o4

>>38704076
Apples and oranges. They do make your feet stronger and reduce injuries. You may also hurt yourself. Your position is like being against drinking water because if your drink too much you will die. The potential for injury doesn't affect the potential for improvement. You can hurt yourself doing literally any exercise.
>Don't deadlift you might visit snap city
>Don't use guns you might shoot an eye out
>Don't breath you don't know what's in the air
^That's how you sound to me.

>>38709569
Finish the program and get some experience under your belt. If run streaking really appeals to you, wait until 3 miles feels like a rest day IMO.

>>38708827
I actually ran my first half without doing anything more than 15km prior.
Honestly, the last 3k were pretty bad. Started getting cramps. I guess the reason is that I had set my goal too high for my level of fitness, and went too fast. Ended at 1h52 (goal was 1h45)

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I've been running 5k 3 times a week for about 2 months now. Not only am I getting really bored of it, but I don't think I'm improving much. I still find it reasonably strenuous I continue to feel pain in my shins and calves, though that might be because I have old shoes and probably shit form.

Think I'm gonna try doing some HIIT thing, even just for something new. Is there anything I need to know beforehand? and can someone recommend a routine, or better yet an app?

>>38709876
>old shoes

Don't fuck up your body

>>38709911
Alri bruv. I don't know shit about shoes. I've been meaning to get new ones though. Should I look for something specific?

>>38709927
What's your preference?
Pricerange?
Comfort/fit over looks? Best of both?
Runners? Tech runners?

>>38709955
>Pricerange?
Let's say €150ish
>Comfort/fit over looks? Best of both?
I'll be wearing them solely for running so don't care about looks
>Runners? Tech runners?
What are tech runners?

>>38710042

Tech runners are a specific kind of shoe -- ones that combine looks and mad comfort, with ofcourse a fitting pricetag.

1. Nike Airmax 2
2. Nike Flyknits
3. Reebok Zprint
4. Reebok Distance 1's
5. Adidas Ultraboost 2.0
6. Adidas Ultraboost Uncaged


The Nikes are the pure runners, they're good, light. Older Airmaxes tend to be better, think 2008 or so.

Reeboks for price-to-performance. But they aren't very durable. You gotta care for them.

Adi UB for looks, uncaged for comfort. Naturally as these are a bit of a fashion statement, you'd also want to care for these.

>>38709518
Layered clothing is helpful. Wear enough clothing where you're a little cold during the first couple miles of your run, but comfortable after that. Consider gloves, a hat, and thermal tights.

>>38709927
I know it's posted often but I seriously recommend going to your local running store and having them look at your gait, and make a shoe recommendation based on that. Try different styles on (minimal, maximal, etc.) and see what feels comfortable.

>>38708734
as opposed to robot shoes?

Form:
Should my heel touch the ground at all?

>>38710759
It's fine, just don't land on it.

who else /sleepyglutes/ here?

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>got "Anterior Tibial Tendonitis" on one of my feet from pushing too hard
>won't be able to run for months
I want to kill myself desu

What else can I do for cardio in the meantime?

>>38711153
I just got over some whatever mini tendonitis and I'm afraid to start running again desu

>>38694889
>cemetery down the street is beautiful during spring
>grass like something from a lawn magazine
>lush trees and well kept hedges/bushes
>cherry blossom petals everywhere
>decide to go for a run as I've done many times and without any problems
>really into my run
>singing the German portion of Goldfinger's 99 Red Balloons cover aloud as I round the corner
>apparently there was a funeral
>everyone stares at me
>I stare at them while still running
>make the Catholic cross sign thing in an attempt to be respectful
>pretty sure I did it backwards
>faced forward and kept running
>ran right out of the cemetery and straight home

And that's why I don't run there anymore. Luckily there's a track almost as close.

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>>38694290
Love my Mizuno Wave Riders. I run college XC so my team gets a discount at a shoe store. I also have Nike Flyknit Lunars for speed work. I may buy a pair of NB Vazee Pace V2. Anyone use those.

Training: I've run 33 miles so far this week. Sunday long run (11 miles) Monday recovery (8 miles), Tuesday Mile repeats (7 miles total including warmup and cool down) and a 6 mile easy run today

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Saucony reporting in. Like the Ride 9's a lot, very lightweight, but I use inserts because of my high arches. I'll probably get another pair of these or Nike Pegasus 33's next, which I tried on and liked. Not sure.

>first, Joggers take up exercise to lose weight and get more fit; they obsess about their weight; and often evangelise to their friends and colleagues about the physical benefits of running;

>then one day the jogger enters a race, and attention shifts. Racers concentrate on improving their performance, beating their personal bests, and competing. The mental effort of racing improves the mind, just as jogging improves the body.

>and finally, the racer may become a Runner, who enjoys the physical benefits of running, and continues to value fitness. Runners take part in races, and try to be the best they can, but they no longer expect every race to be a personal best. They run to find peace of mind.

Jogger, Racer, Runner. Which one are you? I think I'm inching towards Racer once I compete in my first 5k...

>>38703919
And the firmness of the hell is what makes them comfortable for me. Then again, Clydesdale over here.

Anyone ever run XC or track in highschool and regret throwing it all away just to lift instead of running at uni?

>>38698409
>pair of shoes made for barefoot running

>>38712772
No but in a broader sense I regret quitting baseball after Freshman year. I think I'd be a better person if I stuck with a sport all through high school. 7 years later and I'm trying to get back into shape.

>>38712036
I had a pair of Ride 9s and liked them a lot. They just felt fast.

>>38712772
No because xc fucking sucks. Running is great, but seriously xc was fucking shit.

Hey friends, 18 year-old HS senior here. I'm currently 280 lbs, down from 330 in March. I've been slacking really badly the last 3 months in terms of weight loss and I need to fix that problem because I wanted to join the army after graduation to pay for my college (plus I'm a TXfag so le hazlewood act faec). I've been a smoker for the last 2 years and I just stopped smoking cigarettes in lieu of vaping. How much healthier is vaping for you than smoking cigarettes? I'm still a slave to the nicotine meme but if it's going to shit up my lungs as bad as cigarettes did, I might as well go back to dipping. I smoke weed as well, I assume that it will take a toll on my lungs as well, but I'll be giving it up oce I finish what I have. Also, how would I go about getting conditioned for the rigors of the army? Is literally the only way to do so just running? My main concern is the running part of basic as the rest will be a breeze when I've lost enough weight to make use of the muscle I already have.

Thanks in advance.

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>Light, comfy, narrow fit, and nice flexible sole that lets you feel the ground but not too much

It's coming time to replace these but I can't find a decent shoe that is better. Tried New Balance, Brooks, and Asics but they are either too stiff or have way too much cushioning.

>>38713393
Oh and also a pair that doesn't look like fucking clown shoes with a billion colors splashed on it.

Please help /run/

I've got this pain that creeps into my left knee from the side when I run, started maybe 6 weeks ago creeping in at the 2 mile mark, took 2 weeks off did cycling instead, no issue, came back, first run was fine, then few days later it came back around the 1.5 mile mark, give it a week...comes in at 1 mile mark....give it another week....its now starting at less than half a mile. Starts as a slight discomfort and builds to debilitating pain over a few hundred meters. Have been seeing a physio for the last week, he says its ITB friction and gave me accupuncture a few times and some stretches but its getting worse. Doesn't matter which surface doesn't matter how hard I'm going.

22 y.o 167lb, 5'11, shoes are brooks glycerin 13s.

>>38712618
I'm a recovering fatty who has taken up running, so I guess I'm a jogger. I don't really go on about running but I'm a pretty soft spoken kind of guy.

>>38712036
Im wearing a pair of Triumph ISO 2's right now. Due to me kinda being homless and living out of my car, I just started running on treadmills at the gym I use to shower before I head to class. Anyone go from natural running transitioning to gym equipment? Any tips I should know?

Any good bootleg shoes out there?

>>38712618
im all three. ive been into sports, martial arts, running, and fitness since i was a 7. i got depressed after a bad break up, and ate my feelings and let myself go to shit for a few years. started exercising again and found myself again in fitness. enjoying seeing the fat melt off as i take care of my body, enjoy challenging myself and decreasing my times, and enjoy knowing im doing the right thing as well.

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just bought new running shoes
> mfw that new untarnished bottom

Ran 5k for the first time in my life. Took 34 minutes so the pace was pretty poor. Don't know if I wanna work up to 10k or work on a faster 5k time.. xx

>>38714583
Damn man, going to a gym and attending uni while being homeless, that's soome fucking dedication. Why are you homeless btw, and how do you make money?

>>38713145
I wouldn't run if I was as much of a fat fuck as you are, because muh joints. Take up swimming and/or cycling until you've lost enough weight to start running. Also, vaping is healthier than cigs, but it's still not healthy.

Ran for the first time for the sake of running since conscription and my calves are bollocked. Must be because i was running on treadmill barefoot.

I dont think this semen slurping sport is for me.

>>38715633
Yes, it is the people who aren't unhealthy faggots who give up after one failure who are the semen slurpers.

>>38715097
You can't work up to 10km and then not also get a faster 5km time by doing so. Dont thiink about pace yet, just keep adding a little more distance every week.

>>38711488
Got the Vazee Pace v1 with plenty of miles on them. P firm, but fairly nice. Apparently v2 gained an ounce, so I wouldn't bother. Maybe try Mizuno Hitogami
t. run store guy

>>38715838
Always up distance until you're running 3 times a week (regularly) min. and also add a tempo run first. Bugger speedwork off until like a full year of legit running

>>38713412
I wish running shoe companies other than Nike made an effort to make their shoes actually look good. Saucony and Brooks for example are fantastic running shoes, but man are they ugly.

>>38714741
No. There's enough competition on shoes manufacture that you never get more than what you pay for. If you want to save on shoes, rotate multiple pairs to get a longer life out of he midsole.

>>38716965
You know, I think it's okay to namefag if you have relevant experience. Might help us keep track of your opinion

>>38715633
>starting off barefoot, right off the bat, on a fucking treadmill
Gee, I wonder why you are hurting so much?

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>keep falling for good looking cheap Nike shoes that normies by

>they keep wearing out and they give me shit running form
>but they're so comfy light and normie-proof

What do /running/

>>38719843
Stop buying running shoes for aesthetics. Who gives a shit if your running shoes look good if they injure you and keep you from running?

>>38719347
I just ran barefoot on a treadmill for 5 mins and I got huge blisters on the balls of my feet, didnt go away for 3 days.

Lost my gains, never again.

>>38719879
Gimmi a recommendation, cheap, ugly but good running shoe

>>38719902
>Gimmi a recommendation, cheap, ugly but good running shoe

Merrell Vapor Glove 2 masterrace

You'll need to fix your form and strengthen your feet and legs though. It'll do it for you if you take it easier than normal.

>>38694290

>Falling for the cushion meme
Shoes of that ridiculous size will give you shin splints

>>38705130

Don't listen to him, wearing mattresses on your feet will give you a strong heel strike, which will give you splints. Try minimalist shoes or get into barefoot running.

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>>38695964
My personal favorite running shoe. Very flexible, good weight, fairly durable. If you intend on buying, go with the flyknits, they are supreme.

>>38697963
i use zero drop altra shoes

>>38704046
your toes will toughen up.. oil your toes before running until you have nice rough toe skin.

http://runrepeat.com/ranking/rankings-of-overall-running-shoes

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>>38719843

Separate your normie shoes from your serious running shoes. Don't mix the two.

>>38694889
>>38694904
>>38695147
>>38711408
All you have to do is have a story lined up and ready to go just in case anyone gets offended. Just say that your uncle, who was very close to you, is buried in that cemetery. Tell them he was an avid runner and you guys would train for marathons together. Running through his graveyard is just a way to feel close to him.

When people are in the cemetery they're thinking about death. Some may be offended at the notion that you're there to run and not think about death. If you make it seem as though you are also thinking about death, and running is a way of expressing some mourning process, they'll be completely fine with it.

>>38696809
>>38696944
>>38699183
>>38703996
>running with a shirt on
never making it

why does running make me have to shit, bros?

>>38698054
Brooks are great. Brooks is what they gave us at the beginning of basic training. Best running shoes I have ever had.

>>38721466
I too attempt to imitate human emotion to compensate for my aspergers

>>38721505
pro-kinetic something something

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Just got some ASICS gel venture 5's

How did I do?

>>38721541
Hey, whatever works bro.

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Anyone have experience with these? zoom odyssey 2

>>38721505

All that peristaltic movement from muscles contracting, relaxing stimulating your gut.

Try loosening up and not tensing your body so much. Should be a 'natural' movement swinging your arms, legs moving rhythmically and don't hunch over.

Try altering when you eat with respect to when you run.

>>38721323
>Cohesion 7
Only one better than it is Cohesion 8. Cohesion 9 is absolute shit.

>>38721578
I just went on my first run in them yesterday afternoon and I loved them, so I'd say pretty good.

Can we get some /running/ cbt going? I want to see how aesthetic some of the distance runners here are.

What is the best shoes for one who suffers from chin splints

>>38722917
I would, but I haven't trimmed in awhile. Plus, my body is like that marathon guy in the "marathoner vs sprinter" image.

>>38722917
(Myself included) it's gonna be a lot of skeletons I imagine. Mite b cool tho

>>38698054

Brooks, Salomon and Saucony - I think Salomon is best for trails tho.

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>>38723415
Wonder why it rotated to the right? Deleted and reposting. Hopefully this prevents it since it appears just right on my PC

>>38716983
I've been doing on average 3 times a week for about 4 months now. About 2 months ago I've switched to every other day, so ~4 times a week. I want to build up to 6 times a week but I'm 20 lbs overweight.

Actually since I'm overweight, should I stick with 3x a week so I don't hurt my body too much?

>>38723444
Christ dude. Stop running and start eating some more.

>>38721578

Looks comfy

>>38694889
when I was a high school we did hill workouts in a cemetery

does anyone have any good recommendations for ear buds while running? my last pair lasted me around 8 months and this cheap pair from walmart lasted me a fuckin week.

i know they're bound to go out eventually, but does anyone have any recommendations?

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>>38724522

Moxpad X3 from Aliexpress around $15

Bluetooth earphones for running https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Original-Stereo-Bass-Sport-Bluetooth-4-1-Wireless-Headphone-Earphone-With-Mic-Noise-Cancelling-Headset-For/32699100212.html

Bluetooth player for running https://www.aliexpress.com/item/free-music-downloads-media-Bluetooth-MP3-player-0f-4gb-Can-Play100-hours-Original-RUIZU-X06-With/32237066248.html

No screen mp3 player cheap https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Big-promotion-Mirror-Portable-MP3-player-Mini-Clip-MP3-Player-waterproof-sport-mp3-music-player-walkman/32733233251.html

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>>38722917
Not the Asian, but I'm going running with her for free pancakes tomorrow.

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>>38724522
If you don't like earphones that go all the way to your brain, there's also the Sony MDR-E9LP for less than $10

I've had them for 2 years without issue.

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>>38725538
>inb4 tattoos are degenerate

I know I'm not /fit/, but I'm still figuring out how to get 1/2/3/4 while training for Tuscobia this January

>>38721578
trash

you fooled yourself

gt 2k is the only option

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my ankles always get super tired and sore at the end of a mile. What could be the cause of this? Form? Weak ankles? Shoes?

I feel like I could keep going, but my ankles are holding me back.

>>38725635
Is a mile the farthest you've run? Do you run on flat ground? I got a lot of ankle pain but that was because the side of the road I ran on was slanted.

>>38725697
I usually run 3/4 amile and walk the rest. The terrain is very hilly.

I've noticed the slanted road thing too, it definitely contributes to my ankle pain.

>>38725635
Do some hill sprints once a week

>>38725765
I'll give this a try thank you. Should be easy in my area.

>>38725854
Just to give you a warning: it will hurt in your first few sessions, but as you progress, this will force you to correct your form plus strengthen your ankles.

Apple cider vinegar in water before workouts can help to prevent muscle cramps by replenishing an array of electrolytes that are lost with sweat.

>>38726010
so can salt pills, but they won't rot your teeth

>>38704947

Is this true?

Has anyone fixed hip pain that is aggravated from running? I was told I could have SI joint dysfunction, so I stopped running, doing stairs, and deadlifting heavy. I also started stretching more, especially before and after squats. So my hip stopped hurting, and I started deadlifting heavy again after about a year without issue. Now that I started running again, my hip has been having sharp pain when laying in certain positions and has a dull pain when sitting. Tiger balm helps but doesn't fix it.

Other info that might be useful: I've only been running 1 mile at a time because I am afraid of hurting myself. Also, I have flat feet but stretching + compression sleeves eliminates shin splints. I walk an 8 mile trail a couple of times a month, and that doesn't bother me even in converse.

Any advice?

>>38727994
Try doing some movements that aren't totally in the saggital plane

>>38721967
or just shit before you run

>>38727864
Yes. There's a reason why there are speed work and long, slow runs on every training plan past beginners.

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>>38726007

The path I usually follow has 3 large evenly spaced hills in a 1 mile circle. Would the hill sprints be effective if I walked the path to each hill, sprint up, and then walk to the next hill, sprint, etc.?

Thank you for your help.

>>38730562
That'll be fine until you work your way up to running more miles.

>went for a bike ride on wednesday
>knees hurt more after that than they ever do from running
gonna take the weekend off to recover but man this sucks. I'm getting old

>>38730765
This could happen cause the seat was too low

REMINDER TO TOSS YOUR COTTON SOCKS
COTTON KILLS

>>38730916
what

>>38730942
Cotton is the devil and rekts your feet

>>38730942
Cotton is rotten.

I'm a new runner and I'm getting to the point where I'm considering getting some dedicated shoes. I usually wear a 11.5 Wide but it looks like most running shoes only come in regular sizes. Anyone have any recommendations?

My mizuno shitty 8 year old shoes both tore in the big toe region.
Definitely need to get a new pair.
Are Nike free runs a good budget choice.
I need comfortable shoes

Pls post again marathon training girl. I miss your posts. ;_;

>>38702302
You are too heavy. You need to lose weight get your bmi down to 21-22 at the most, preferably less. You also need to build a base of low intensity high volume running. By low intensity i mean talking pace (vt1 if you know what that means)
Do this for three or four months starting small and increase volume 10% every week. Take three days off every four or five weeks.
If you do this you will get fitter,faster and if done properly it will not injure you and help guard against future injuries.
After this phase you can begin polarised training. This means 20% of workouts are HARD. This means 90-95% max hr intervals. Rest of your training is super easy talking pace like before.

Do this and i promise you that you will be an incredible runner in a couple of years.

>>38731222
This is a fantastic question for the running store employees. They'll even look at your stride and help you pick a good shoe for free.

How accurate are running GPS when it comes to running around a track? I was really excited to see that I ran 3.1 miles but I don't think I ran more than 12 laps. More like 11 and maybe 3/4ths

>>38732860
If you are running a measured distance like a track or a trail with mile markers, trust that before the GPS distance.

>>38732860
GPS tend to be shit. If it's a standard track, I'd trust it more than a GPS. Only use GPS if you need to know approximates. Even then, I'd rather run based on time instead of distance.

How often do you replace shoes? I've had mine for about 6 months now, and they're already looking pretty worn out.

>>38733113
When my legs and ankles start hurting after every run I do and start getting blisters on my toes.

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Mexi here, should I be wearing sun screen sinceI'm brown as fuck?

>>38733338
It wouldn't do any harm.

>>38733338
Lo que hago yo es usar bronceador, o aceite de coco.

>>38733113
if they are good quality they can last around 2 years id say

>>38733338
that utter lack of hips though

I have a 10km run on sunday, i trained 4 months for it. Tuesday i came down with a cold or pharyngitis or some shit (trouble swallowing, headache, pain outside of my neck, light cough). What can i do? How much will it fuck me up if i run, in case it doesn't go away until then?

>>38725553
>If you don't like earphones that go all the way to your brai
I fucking hate those things
they never even stay in the little garbage shits, you wedge them in and the sound sounds alright until they pop back out again and it's uncomfortable as hell until then
why does anybody buy those things

>>38725538

>but I'm going running with her for free pancakes tomorrow

are you eating out her ass?

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>>38694290

Get New Balance 990 and Archmolds Maximum Cushion Insoles.

Expensive, but ZERO blisters, comfortable, EXCELLENT cushion, and will last a LONG time.

>>38732890
I was hoping maybe it accounted for me moving around the track... It was a crowded track so I couldn't stay in one lane the entire time...

>>38734317
Nah, senpai. Doesn't fit my macros

Britbong here. Been looking at these for a while and just noticed Nike have a sale on them.

Opinions?

>>38734793
Now with link
http://store.nike.com/gb/en_gb/pd/free-rn-flyknit-running-shoe/pid-11055664/pgid-11620408

>>38734793
Frees are okay. They're very flexible and don't provide a lot of support though, so take that into account if those are things you need in a shoe.

>>38707871
Mah nigga, these cured my shin splints. They're seriously miracles on your feet.

>>38724522
Look up skullcandy earbuds specifically for fitness. Skullcandy is the way to go because they have unlimited warranty. Skullcandies last around 6-8months so when they break just send them back theyll send you a coupon and you can either upgrade or get the same ones again. Havent had to pay for a pair since 2013

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Going to an informal race tomorrow lads
There will probably be lots of girls my age

How to pick up runner girls, /run/?

>>38736606
Run after them saying
>He..hey..lady
>Are you an..huff huff..
>Archeolo...mumble mumble

>>38736639
Fuck anon, that was actually pretty funny

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>>38736606
>How to pick up runner girls

did you forget where you are lad?

>>38733338
Siempre. El daño a la piel es acumulativo. >>38733727
No hagas eso. Te estas dañando la piel. Usa bloqueador solar.

>>38732860
When people say tracks are 1/4 a mile they mean the inside lane. Every additional lane is a longer distance for a full lap. Wrist-worn GPS aren't scientific tools, but you probably ran close to 3.1 miles

http://www.coachdino.org/trackcalc.htm

I WANT BOOKS. GIVE SOME BOOKS ABOUT RUNNING

Guys how do you deal with smelly shoes? My running shoes smell like shit, how do I remove it?

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>>38737174
Ok, gracias.

>>38738216
Baking soda.

>>38738216
gold bond foot powder

What kind of running program can you run alongside a 3 - 4 day powerbuilding weight training routine?

>>38736606
be the fastest fucker there

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>>38738475
hot as fuck, black hair, pony tail, slutty ring earrings, that outfit, fuck man thats like like all of my fetishes

So I went for a run in my new shoes. And now my ankle hurts. Did I fuck up? Should I have taken it slower for the first few runs? Also they mind of hurt my feet right behind my big toe.

What gives? Should I return them?

>>38738863
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIauiYdKmRs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiTsZiLtHhQ

>>38738881
>What is break-in period?
Yes, you should've went a bit slower.

>>38738919
Fuck. Well I'm not dying at least. I'll just rest a few days and pick it back up.

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>>38738902

you trying to ruin my no fap?

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Are there any style of shoes that would be suitable for lifting and running (not long distance)?

>>38739476
Would also like to know

>>38738475
Por nada hmno

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>>38736606
>>38736639
>>38737088
>>38738812
Well, time to kill myself

Talked to this girl for half a fucking hour after the race and didn't know how to seal the deal and get her #

Fuck, I'm a useless loser.
I don't even know how I'm going to find her again...

>>38715405
Only for right now. Im having family issues so I left the house. Im a cashier so its enough to get by.Like I said this is just temporary.