Motivation thread. Let us help each other fight on through the pain.

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2D girls

Watch this OP and tell me you are not now motivated:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sUKoKQlEC4

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Roman aesthetic really is fucking beautiful

>>38656281
greek

fixed that for you

>>38656342

Greek TBQH is basically Roman since they got their asses conquered but were aesthetic enough to not be destroyed.

>>38656357
malakas

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>>38656357
>panda express is authentic chinese food because they're more established in the west

>>38656357
Not quite

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>>38656253
The only pain is the pain you create. We are all going to make it brehs. Always mive forward and never give up no matter how hard it gets.

>>38656424
You're gonna feel the pain. You make the choice wether or not to suffer.

>>38656253
If I ever need motivation I imagine myself in a situation where the exercise I'm doing is a matter of life or death.

When squatting I imagine someone close to me collapsed while we're hiking and I have to carry them to ranger station. If I don't they die.

http://youtu.be/KxGRhd_iWuE

http://youtu.be/egPsO3jonU0

>>38656262
Oh and how I have done so, thinking I had done all right.

>>38656504
thanks anon, will try this next time im lunging through my gym

>>38656424
I want him to be alive.

What a man.

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Walk with peace, brother, do not let hatred fuel your journey on this Earth.

>>38656253
REMINDER: Motivation must come from WITHIN, or it is only temporarily effective.

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>>38657319
If you doubt yourself even for a second, you have already failed yourself.

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>>38657218
He's actually, a much better "icon" dead than he would have ever been alive. The GREATS die too early for their time, but if they didn't they wouldn't be remembered as a such.

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>>38656253

>>38657461
is that planet fitness?

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>>38656253

>>38657498
Jesus only Ross could drop a Nuke like that as gently as that.

>>38656357
burger-line retardation

murrica

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>was in starvation mode before I started lifting
>5'9" at 140 pounds
>11 months later
>at 182 pounds
>able to bench 185, leg press 750, and squat 275
>in the best shape I've ever been yet constantly feeling like i'm getting fatter or losing progress
>eating as much as I can before my stomach feels like it's about to explode
>trainer says it's not enough
>mfw trying everything but just feel like i'm hitting a wall that's moving backwards

I hate it anons, it's driving me crazy.

the last couple days have been a bit weird guys, I think whenever I go on fat person hate threads I lose motivation cause i just dont understand why people do that to themselves and how they could enjoy it.
and for some reason i get worried i might fall off my healthy lifestyle, I know i probably wont but i still get worried...anybody else get something like this?

>>38659438
I have nightmares about this shit. Like I falled off the wagon and all the effort on the last 2 years was for nothing and Im a fatass again. Hang in there briother

>>38656265
Idiot fucking anime poster

>>38656993
Damn.

>>38656253
There is one good youtube vid- I'm shit, training then he finds a gf in the gym.

>>38656281
is his fucking liver exploding?

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>>38660643
An enlightened anon

>>38660652
Headed to the bars now to drink away the thought of my fiance I broke up with a few weeks ago, we're all gonna make it bros

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>>38660664
Figured I'd drop some wisdom right before

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>>38660672

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>>38660679

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Every one of their YT videos has help get through some shit.

https://youtu.be/-A7VrTxuZIE
https://youtu.be/1D-vyjQIUDc
https://youtu.be/DPiSFGrHCbE
https://youtu.be/PaZ1EmPOE_k

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Scared about your meeting on Monday? Are you going to have bullets flying at your fucking face? No? Then man the fuck up, pussy.

>>38656262
He's cool. Caesar is gay. I want to destroy more than Alexander. I didn't. Therefore I'm not as cool as him. Great attitude.

>>38656357

No.

Roman statuary was heavily influenced by Greek statuary, but there are clear differences. Roman statuary is more centralized around busts and extreme facial details, which the Greeks did not focus as much on. Generally, the later Greek statuary was more expressive than Roman. Roman sculpture was also more "commercial" than Greek sculpture; consider the practice where rich Roman women would place their busts upon the body of Venus, creating a god-awful type of sculptural photoshop-abortion where you have the face of a middle aged bitch upon a beautifully luscious young body.

Unfortunately, most of the Greek statues have been destroyed thoughout the ages, so we're left mainly with Roman replicas.

t. Art student

>>38656265
this
lifting 4 my waifu

>>38660664
Yo. Not claiming to know your situation, but drink to the positivity of it all.

>>38660878
good shit anon ty

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whenever i start to lose motivation, i just think "what would guts do?" and i man up and do it

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>>38660878
that last one hit me hard.

thanks anon

>>38656253

>tfw Julius was literally one of us

He was also self conscious about his balding


JUST

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3H8-mb9b-dc

nothing gets me more motivated than this song

>>38658763
Based Ross indeed

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>>38661094

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>>38656253

>>38661063
No problem, brother. I just wanted to help other anons out.

>>38656376
What if it's better?

Does it have to be made by a chink to be considered the full package/

>>38661280
how come animes have to vocalize thier thoughts. movies/shows with real humans don't do this and we know what they're thinking without them saying it. is it because autisms can't understand social cues?

>>38656424
Yeah, nah.

Wait till one of parents dies, then tell me it's pain you create. Die right after college graduation too

>>38657393
This isn't star wars, if you don't doubt yourself then you've already failed.

It's what you do with the doubt

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>>38661342
No, you can take others doubt as fuel to accomplish your goals. But if you doubt yourself you've already failed due to you subconsciously giving up. Self doubt is one of the biggest obstacle we all must face from time to time.

>>38659427
>5'9, 182
You need to fucking cut dude, at this point your body is gaining more fat than muscle, which may explain your slow progress.

I'm 5'9" but 162 and my lifts are the same as yours, might be even more now since I haven't tested my maxes in a while.

Your trainer is clueless. Cut down to like 11-12% bf then bulk up again if you wish. There's also an article about this in the sticky if you wanna learn more.

>>38661280
Post more guts motivation. I'm not a weeb but this shit hit me right there.

>>38661306
Haha the animated version of this scene came out the other day and is just a zoom in on her face as her expression changes/she tears up. It comes across as maybe better than in this manga scene so I can agree with you

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Otoya was 17 when he killed the socialist politician

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THIS FUCKING (HARDSTYLE) SONG GUYS.

https://youtu.be/zfzrjq91D7I

Chestbrah posted it on his IG a year ago and its never left me. It's seriously the most hype, inspiring shit I've ever heard.

"Think back to that special moment.
When you thought everything was possible.
Well nothing has changed. You have just grown with time.
But it's times like these which define who you are.
So hold on to your imagination
And believe
In what's true.

This...

Is your moment.
BONG BONG BONG BONG BONG BONG BONG BONG BONG BONG FUAAAAAAARK!!!

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>>38661518

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>>38661431
kek

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>>38661531

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>>38661452
> chestbrah

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>>38661539

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>>38661553
therefore, i am ur mom xDDDDDDDDDD

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>>38661651
I got a lot of these and I'm drunk enough to keep posting

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>>38661663
there's something oddly calming about typing during these minute breaks.

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>>38661675

>>38661651
Based.

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>>38661688

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>>38661511
Phillip won though kek

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>>38661709

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>>38661717
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mbp0DugfCA
>pic unrelated

>>38656262
>the man in the glass
Now I want a drink.

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>>38661742

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>>38661751

https://youtu.be/vRk7VFLH-aE

https://youtu.be/WhiItOzlhu4

https://youtu.be/ip97YDkvbtY

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>>38661772
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WA4iX5D9Z64
Thank you Taylor for reminding me that she is a bitch

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>>38656993

thread needs more zyzz

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>>38661791
>>38661801
so post more zyzz

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>>38661807

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>>38661817
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfWlot6h_JM

>>38661801
Kys gymcel

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>>38661824

>>38656253
Good thread

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>>38661834

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>>38661855
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgFeZr5ptV8

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>>38661867

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>>38661883

Yeah, I'm sure these partial quotes from ancient greeks and latins will really set you on a path of enlightenment.

Instead of reading some shitty jpeg with a quote why don't you actually try to read, understand, and practice ancient philosophies.

You definitely will learn something on the way, seeing as how most of these are missing the rest of the philosophy of the man who wrote and lived by them.

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>>38661931
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-ORhEE9VVg

>>38661511
God I fucking love classical Greece

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I lived 22 years of my life without having a single person tell me I couldn't achieve something. I was never cautioned, except by my overbearing mom, of inherent dangers for things I was planning on doing. I was never told I was crazy, except once by a drunken landwhale that was trying to get my attention. I was never held back, I was never pressed for time, there were no obstacles in my life.

And then, 2 months prior to my 23rd birthday, I realized that I had accomplished little to nothing in my life, that I had nothing to show for. It hit me like a truck, and I refused to stand for it. I'd been living like a fucking pussy for all of my life.

I took my entire savings and bought a rustbucket project car. And I told myself that in 3 months, I'd be driving it 800 miles to move to a new city halfway across the country. I had no experience working on cars, little money, and a timeline that was ridiculous.

Everything changed when I bought that car. Absolutely everyone in my life, from family to friends to colleagues to even strangers were all saying that I was fucking stupid. That I wouldn't make it. That I'd wreck it. That I'd get hurt. People were literally sitting me down to try and seriously talk me out of it. And with their criticism and judgement, my determination only grew stronger. I was in the hole and there was no way in hell I was climbing out before I dug down to gold. I spent afternoons after work working on it constantly in the parking lot even though that was against the rules, evenings stressing over it, and weekends at the shop working on it more.

It came down to the fucking line in all ways imaginable. Registration issues, inspection issues, funding issues, time issues, you name it was an obstacle up to just a few days before I had to leave. But I got all of that shit done, with everyone telling me that I couldn't, and I fucking drove that car the 800 miles. I made it. The trip was hell, I'll just say that, but I made it... Sorta.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tzm6TEManmQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxGRhd_iWuE

>>38661898
I suppose these could at least work as gateways. If even one person is inspired to read the ancients by this thread, that's a good thing.

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>>38661941

>>38657572
Yeah, it is.

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>>38661976
both these women were immediately impregnated

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>>38661994
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dukn4NZgkfw

>>38661984

>Oh that's nice deary

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>>38662004
i'm out of words i think

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>>38662021

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>>38662028

>>38659427

I don't want to knock your efforts, because progress has certainly been made and that's great, but only a faggot cares to measure how much they can leg press, let alone tell others about it.

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>>38662030

Pictured: Your body on SS+GOMAD

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>>38660878
>school of life
gr8 m8 i had almost forgotten about those videos
time to watch all of them again

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>>38661949
I took a victory lap to my hometown just 3 hours away, intending on leaving my car at my parents' place so that I could work on it with my dad, an experienced classic car restorer. I made it within 5 miles of their place when my driver side rear tire exploded. Then, the tire caught fire. The emergency brake wasn't fully disengaged at my last stop, and it dragged for 45 minutes. IT got so hot it blew the tire apart and then caught the rubber on fire. The fire department got there quickly and put out the fire before it caught the gas on fire. And now, I still go home every weekend to work on it with my dad. We've made a lot of progress.

The car catching fire is literally the proudest moment of my life. In the face of all opposition, I somehow made it 1100/1105 miles of the trip in a car that just 3 months prior would die every 100 feet or so, a car that just a month and a half months prior had no brakes and was run into a fence several times to slow it down, a car that was literally falling apart. It made it that far with my hard work and a lot of luck.

I live my life like a maniac ever since that moment. I routinely throw myself into the shit and get swamped with challenge. I often fail, just like I did throughout getting the car ready for the trip. But I always get back up, and the criticism from others only strengthens my resolve. This entire story, and my current lifestyle, would NOT be possible without my endless optimism. Optimism is the key to success. I'm optimistic about literally everything, I look for the good in everything, and I seek to win over pessimists.

Every success in life boils down to optimism. Couple optimism with an attitude of eating hardship for breakfast and taking risks because life is fucking short, and you get stories like the one I've just told you. Take the plunge into a new challenge, get in way over your head, stay optimistic and you'll do fucking cool things all the time.

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>>38662070
I just wanna be a ripped monk with a tigerbro

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>>38662084

>>38661280
>Sick and fever

>What would guts do?


>Fuck the apostles

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>>38662092

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>>38662099
there's something about the power of the water

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>>38662144
im out. goodnight guys. sorry for derailing slightly

>>38662081
They've legit helped me out, anon

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>>38662316

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdBJ1X33rXM
this video always puts my melancholy in perspective and encourages me to do better

>>38662375
aaaand now i'm crying
why would you post that

>>38661312
Nate?

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>>38662527

>>38656253
self pity is narcissism disguised as depth

>>38660672
>you cannot inherit it
Bo Jackson says otherwise.

>>38656424
I needed this today. Thankyou.

I will be squatting heavy and deep.

>>38661663
>Made this when he was 24
>Carved from a block of marble
>Looks like cloth
>Not a genius

>>38661855
oh fuck that hit hard

>>38656281
>no legs
>no dick gains
>lol

>>38660906
>are brave troops
Fuck off memester

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>>38661094
Sit down like a beta bitch and watch as an alpha like Griffith cucks him out of his girl?

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>>38656281

>>38657046
Top kek

>>38662326

What there a point or moral to this crap?

>>38662326

Pls continue. Or is this the end?

>>38661797
>he thinks deadlifting 4 plates is gonna make him a legend

Oh, the autismo.

>>38657612
>amatuer
For fuck's sake

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>>38661723
>right in the feel

>>38662083
I'm sure this is meant to be motivational, but it's actually really fucking stupid.

There's a difference between taking justifiable risks and putting yourself and others in danger with an unsafe vehicle that set on fire in the middle of the road.

>>38661299
FUUUUUUUUUARK

I literally exhaled everything at the end of that.

>>38661730
shlurp that brodie in the glass if you know what I mean hmu

>>38662016
Topkek

>>38656281
why is an alien tentacle probing that mans anus?

You're all pussies.

>>38659575
>I falled off the wagon

Daily reminder that /fit/ is riddled with high school dropouts who are retsrded in most facets of life besides lifting

>>38661388
You're talking out of your ass. Humans are creatures of error, if we didn't ever doubt our own reason we night as well be primates flinging shit at each other without inhibition. I mean, you can't honestly suggest we dont question our motives before doing something? Thats just fucking retarded.

If engineers didnt doubt themselves from time-to-time they would miss things and kill thousands of people.

>hurr durr be a man, dont think!

Like fucking kek, kids these days.

What you're trying to say is that confidence in your decisions is important, and I agree. You shouldn't doubt yourself after you've decided, but just NOT ever doubting is the dumbest shit Ive ever heard.

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>>38656253

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Perhaps it's time for some of you (not all) to move past simplistic one-liners and immerse yourselves in a disciplined approach. There's no harm in being moved by image macros of captioned Greek sculpture.

Perhaps fleshing out an existentialism and/or epistemology that would encompass life more sincerely than folk psychology value judgments such as motivation.

The expectation of coming across a motivational post within this thread allows you to focus on meeting that expectation, but it also blurs the possibility of coming across anything else. These shared expectations then promote the reformulations of the same stimulus (posts) that lead to an expected response e.g. feeling motivated. Crude untested mechanism, but it helps to operationalize the phenomenon.

I'm suggesting something that comes from the same principle that allows any of us to get stronger via progressive overload: that basic components can be arranged into higher order constructions. Consumption of fairly "basic" macromolecules lead to the varied ways of breaking them apart and putting them together, in order to adapt to a higher order function such as the weight-bearing movement. The experience of motivation and what it's lead you to do is a component that can find itself situated as part of a higher order function like a philosophy or a way of life. But as it stands for you now, motivation seems more likely to be an idealized emotional state that finds itself situated disjointedly among many other emotions and experiences.

You can flag this as reddit-tier, but really I'm just a bit tired. It's odd that /fit/ espouses development and growth and yet has remained stagnant or even regressive as time has gone by, not that my judgment of that is certain, but it certainly moves me to make this post.

I guess I just wanted to show you what you showed me back then. That there's more.

>who am I kidding, 4chan is for shitposting

Somehow, it's not just that. Essentialism leaves no room for growth.

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>>38667555

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>>38660653
I loved that quote so much I made into a gloriously gay wallpaper

I will suplex that train. -Greg Plitt

>>38661531
holy shit this was enlighting

>>38667378
>in the Hydra's blood
In Nessos' blodd, godammit (a frickin centaure whom tried to rape his second wife).

>>38667555
Ive reread your post twice and still don't understand what youre suggesting.

Read more classic works of the Greeks I guess?

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>>38660933

>yfw your art degree actually came in handy

>>38661855
is this a motivation thread or a feels thread?
fuck man

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>>38660933

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>>38668336
Is there a difference?

>>38656253
If I wanted motivation I'd ask for your 1 rep maxes.

>>38657612

BREHS

>>38661573
That guy. That fucking guy gets it.

>>38660933
yerr

romans were essentially graeco-weebs. greeks didnt care, and the romans conquered the shit out of them etc etc adopted everything they wanted

aristocratic romans spoke greek, for example, not roman

t. history student

>>38661855
gah right in my emotional epicenter

>>38662326
>>38663945
>>38664133

>get sent on "epic quest" by king for some gem to win some girl
>was just for kings greed, get fucked over and banished
>travel world, learn skills, develop as a person
>return
>kingdom in ruins, finds old gem from epic quest
>fuck that shit, now know the true value of life

what I got out of it at least

>>38661697
His hat looks like a penis cumming.

Where can I get one?

>>38669348
>aristocratic romans spoke greek, for example, not roman
>not Roman
>claims to be a history student
Embarrassing.

>>38661539
Then bitch and complain along with your wife about how you didn't win the highest honor in your craft because of the color of your skin even though your performance in a film based on false information was mediocre...

>>38667678
I like this. Thanks.

>>38670581

Why do /pol/ has to ruin every good threads ?

>>38670721
Like it or not he copped out and used the race card as an excuse for his short comings...

You should pick better role models bro

>>38670403
oh fuck I cannot unsee.

>>38661569
i keked

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>>38661688
Lifting the heavy ass weights 1 hour per day is easy, watching what you put in your mouth the other 23 is the hard part.

>>38661306
Have you ever read a book?

>>38667555
That picture story was very powerful

>>38667258
While i do agree with your notion, i have to mention this
>"Like fucking kek, kids these days. "

>Marcus Aurelious
>Born 161 A.D.
>Kids there days
>kek

>>38664268
Way over your head. It's about the fact that he keeps going, while the kid already set limits on himself.

>>38661717
But I don't hate anybody. I only hate myself. I still feel like shit.

Losing makes us stronger and not knowing our places means we have no regrets or boundaries

>>38656253

This always gets me super hyped:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBwadwZHgNI

>>38662779
Where is this from? It hits really close to home.

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>>38667956
If that's your understanding of it, then that's enough. I needed to put it at an abstract enough level to cover what I meant, because words lose their meaning especially given the current times. If I just told you to read some philosophy, then that wouldn't quite cover it. An epistemology allows you to think about knowledge, an existentialism, about meaning. And I don't want to suggest that I know the best for you in those regards, only that the possibility exists.

Motivation is what I referred to as a base component. I'm suggesting the movement towards a higher order function not by moving away from base components, but situating them together in an arrangement that allows for a higher order function. For example, there is motivation, but there is also discipline. How do these two exist? Are they paradoxical? Or do they manage to coexist in tandem? You could say what I'm doing is a function of decomposition and recomposition, reductionism and holism, but that is just one form of epistemology. Perhaps meaning could come in. Why should I be motivated? Why do I do this? Should I?

Maybe what I've posted was ill-fitting, but that would suggest an essentialism as to what 4chan and /fit/ in particular is "supposed" to be. That you considered asking me and rereading what I've posted is enough to show that an "essence" to what 4chan is, is not quite so easily typified.

For example, I've violated someone's normative idea of 4chan by posting in an awkward, ill-fitting manner. Resulting in a typification by >>38667650 in order to handle the incongruence to essentialized norms.

Some of you may make the movement towards higher order understandings on your own (higher order does not necessarily mean better, in case that wasn't quite clear, but it allows for new functions). That is why I'm only giving suggestion. Many will read in passing. Some, like you, will give a bit more time. Perhaps, I was useful. Perhaps, not at all. We're all anon anyway.

>>38661530
I don't know how.
I don't know why.

But this motivated my fears away, now I just want to punch the fucker and assert dominance. Am I finally making it bros?

>>38661530
i dont get it....

>>38662004
simp

>>38662004
>>38662028
>>38662060
how is this motivation? love no thot fuck em and ditch em romantic beta simp ass nigga

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>>38661637
>this pain is your privilege.

>>38662796
>when he was 24

WHAT? ARE YOU SERIOUS?

Oh my god i want to cry, what i'm doing with my life?

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>>38674136
Youre making me think but it's not really clicking.

Something about fractals and meaning and whatnot.


Well listen here bub. There is no order. There is no meaning. These aren't words Im typing. This isnt even noise. Next time dont open your big old mouth and just keep your nuanced nonsense to yourself.

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>>38676691
That's just it. There's a higher order reasoning in there that you can't reach at the moment maybe because some base components are lacking or that you haven't arranged them into a framework.

keywords: essence, existence, epistemology, reductionism, holism, abstraction, being, meaning, phenomenology

You're looking for an answer and that's why you struggle. I gave you none. The answer is for you to find. All I have is a framework. You came here looking for motivation. I'm disturbing that expectation. Maybe you can see the way in which I disturbed it. Maybe not. Nothing wrong, nothing right.

I'm not espousing any value judgment other than suggesting the movement from a base level of seeking motivation to something reorganized as part of a functioning whole. I questioned the myopic behavior of looking for motivation in an online thread on a fitness board.

It might help if I give examples. I used to fondly think about /fit/, lifting weights, and being part of a gym culture about three years back. College went on by, career opportunities here and there, family struggle, being middle class in a third world country, etc.

Life just showed me how much bigger it was than these moments of inspiration I used to look for in threads like these. That's why I'm cautious to suggest anything because perhaps you are simply following a similar line of development to mine, and that an understanding will eventually come in time whether I do something or not. I made no recommendations to reading as these don't quite happen so naturally. You can read a text but fail to understand any of it because you simply are not ready for it.

I suppose I mean well, but only to the extent you can make use of what I have said. At least, I hope my pic unrelateds were enjoyable.

>>38661511
Philip fucked them hard tho

>>38661855
I just questioned so much of my life. This fucked me up hard.

>>38656993
That kid's name is Homer

>>38667555
>>38674136
>>38676975

Anon if you're still here please continue, I'm following your posts thoroughly

>>38656281
>tfw back in the day having a large dick was considered freaky and weird

Better days man :'(

>>38656281
Is it possible to get that line where the ribcage starts, at the very end of your abs, so well developed?

>>38657393
This one is dumb. The smaller number should've been 1^365 = 1. Anything less than 1 means you aren't making an effort, however you quantify that.

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>>38677531
Happy to hear it, but I think it might be better if you ask a specific question. I'm coming from multiple backgrounds here and am still in the process of learning from them.

Reducing and then synthesizing is something I picked up from psychological construction: a new approach to emotion that could get us far. I'm using it as an analogy to creating a philosophy. Yes, there are times in life where we are motivated. But, there's more to life than motivation. This does not subtract motivation or make it less, but it allows for a framework to understand it as a component to the larger experience of life itself.

A problem that calls into question the behavior of seeking motivation is: what happens when you don't have any motivation? Do you just stop, cease to exist or function? No. So motivation is not a necessary component in life, but is a part of it. You could go on along like this with other phenomena. Maybe find yourself asking a more interesting question, like, is anything necessary? Is there an essence to man? Then you go along and reflect on your experiences in life to find your answers. The phenomenological approach has its roots in personal experience, without being subjectivistic.

Where I am now it's a sort of post-emotion. I can get angry at a friend who does not meet up to my expectations, but I can choose. My emotion does not force me to make a response, it just pushes me. I can push back. Because I understand emotion as a base component of something larger. One way to put this something larger is faith. Blind faith leads nowhere. That's where Otto comes from in his Idea of the Holy where he marries rationality with religion. My faith would tell me that there's more to my friend that what I want him to be. Which brings us back to the essence vs existence problem. Are you who you think you are? The sum of your experiences? The choices you've made?

But you are not who you think you are. You are the one asking the question.

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>>38677531
There's plenty for me to cover that I did not learn quickly, nor did I learn alone.

I learned these things from my professors, friends, family, strangers - from my life. Faith is not something that can be learned, for example. Learning, not something that can be taught. Phenomenology is a philosophy of man because it puts at the forefront experience as the main basis of reflection. If you look at their etymology, it makes more sense. Pheno- is Greek for "I bring light." -logy is logos, an order, reasoning, study. Phenomenology is then the study of things that come to light, which for man, is most truly his experiences.

It is not solipsism exactly because experiences do not come from oneself. They come from your relation with reality, hence the term "concept." To conceive, such as to conceive a child, is likened to one's concepts of the world. Your concepts must be from you and your intercourse with reality, not otherwise.

Ultimately what I hope to do is educate in the meaning of the word. From Latin, e- meaning out, and -ducere meaning to draw: education is most truly a drawing out of the human being, not the attachment of something external. If you search the etymology of propaganda, you will see how they are opposites.

I really can't just suggest books for you to read. You've just got to live your life and have the discipline to reflect on it sincerely. What are the problems in your life? When you attend to them, you discover more than their solution, but why they were problems to begin with. I have my share. Family, school, career. But now more than their solution, I know why they are problem, why they are my problem. And now there is choice. A reintegration of the base components has allowed for a level of independence from them. I'm not simply angry for no reason. Not helpless any longer. There is the capacity for freedom now that I've understood antecedents and constituents.

Thus motivation ceases to be necessitated. And thus, it can be enjoyed

>>38677663
That was the joke anon
You should make an effort every day
Any effort > half assed effort

>>38661855
fuck I should break up with my gf

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>>38677531
Finally, the push towards higher order functioning finds itself exampled most clearly in life. All life consists of the elements of carbon, hydrogen, oxygen, and nitrogen. It is in the utterly complex rearrangements of these simple elements that we find ourselves here today.

You do not simply bleed out when you lose an arm or a hand. The blind can still hear, and the deaf can still see. A level of complexity has been achieved that no longer lends itself to complete dependence on its constituents, but rather to a complex nonsequential system.

In the same way, there is no reason for there to be a complete dependence on motivation once mechanisms have been operationalized and recategorized within the larger phenomenon of human life.

As a side note: precluding this, the delineation of the phenomenon of motivation is called into question. It is folk psychology and faculty psychology for one to assume that the construct exists essentially as it is. There is variability in the experience between individuals and even within individuals. Antecedent triggers and typified effects do not cover the particular instances of this experience. Where psychology finds itself too broad, phenomenology may take its place.

Science, philosophy, life - none of these exist separate from each other. A vast complexity must not be made simpler without a return to it, otherwise, the simplicity becomes appealing because of intuition, rather than understanding.

>>38658763
ikr. bob ross was incredible

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUpbe7ysXw8
this is oddly motivating

>>38659427
it took you a year to bench bodyweight?

>>38667711
To soon

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>>38656281
>tfw people tell me I look like a Greek God
>even when out of shape
>I agree

>>38657461
its because if someone gets old they wither away and people will remember them in their eldest years. But if someone dies young all you remember is the person at their strongest and most exciting point.

>>38678414
>even when out of shape
Or you just look like a goddamned greek.

>>38664517
Holy fuck, what a little bitch

>>38671854
What? I don't give a fuck when that quote was, I didn't even read it. Im responding to the poster's comment not the picture

I can here seeking motivation but instead got existentialism.

Thanks /fit/, I'm gonna go reconsider life now.

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>>38679152
I can rec you some lit but nothing beats a professor.

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>>38662375
Well now i feel fucking awful

But thanks anon, i needed that

>>38661518
That sounds like a great way to injure yourself

>>38661531
Words of wisdom from a literal cookie-cutter porn addict.

>>38678929
That was so beautiful oh my god

>>38670581
this

>>38661534
7 LIVES FOR MY COUNTRY

>>38670403
you motherfucker
this will stay with me forever

>>38679479
I'd enjoy some lit since I can't always find a professor.

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>>38680860
I was about to namedrop a few when I realized I never learned from reading specific authors in focus, but a variety of writings that clicked and some that didn't. A respectable approach to any discipline is not done quickly, but I've been able to jury-rig their insights into something that's been decently usable for myself. I'm far from having read enough.

Since I was conducting psychological research, a decently grounded epistemology became relevant.

An anthology might be your best bet, since this allows you to dip your toes in the water with different pieces you might find more relevant without having to get bogged down with heavy terminology that, while insightful, fails to be while you're still wrapping your head around things.

I suggest reading a text relevant to you, and then reading commentary on the text in order to supplement your understanding. Nothing's worse than a foundation full of wholes. Then maybe watching films that are inspired by that writing and piecing together their expression with your understanding.

If this sounds exhausting to you, then it wasn't for you to begin with. Nobody hits a new PR without wanting to first.

>>38661953
>Not having rise and shine as your alarm

>>38678929

well shit

>>38658763
He said this because it was right after he lost his wife

>>38661588
I like it, simple but makes me wanna get off my ass. Gracias

>>38670464
Go to Rome, faggot, not a single one of them will call themselves "italian" or "latin" when you're referring to them.

They are romans.

When we say "latin" we refer to the post-roman language still in use today in the catholic church.

>>38682663
The Romans spoke Latin you tard. Byzantium spoke Greek.

>>38669348
You need to kill yourself

>>38661855
this

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>>38661094
I do exactly this, but only when running. It also often involved looping this as I run - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n55QVlBoDxI
Guts is pretty much the human incarnation of endurance.

>>38661553
Aristotle a best.

>>38661569
Toppe keque

>>38656271
thank you for posting this. Motivates me every time. My favorite movie

>>38683041
actually, few people besides noble citizens spoke Latin. the everyday laborer and merchant would have spoken Greek, especially the provinces further away from Rome.

>>38662083
>>38661949
Cheers mate. Best advice in this thread and I'll do my best to take it to heart.

just bought Arnolds biography

best 8€ ever spend, it is truly inspiring.
He's my role model, the father I never had.

>>38656342
>greek
>a thing

>>38683877
>the father I never had.
i wish there was a webpage where you could ask questions to dads and get sound advice, advice you never got when you were young.

>>38680122
can you injure yourself with situps

>>38667128
>besides lifting

>>38677812
>>38677917
>>38678210

thank you for returning man. I'm reading your posts at the moment

>>38681658

finished reading your post's m8te. Thank you again for taking the time to write everything out.

>>38677812
>>38677917
>>38678210
>>38681658

If possible, could you pass on something you've learned from your years of experience or "concept" throughout life? You can call it general advice to simplify it, but of course, return to it's original meaning if you know what mean

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>>38661553
>>38661511

Phillip was Alexanders father, and Aristotle was his tutor.

Alexander conquered most of the eastern world at the age of 25. He was called Great because he was completely undefeated in battle.

One moment of difficulty was him in the Siege of Tyre. The Persians had one last port in the Mediterranean sea, and Alexander had the notable handicap of having few ships. The Tyrians, a mile off the coast and behind 60 foot walls, considered themselves safe since the Macedonians couldn't swim.

Tyre used to be an island. Now its a penninsula.


Alex literally changed the face of this planet. He was so pissed off that he spent 6 months building a mile long earthen mole so his siege engines could buttfuck the Tyrian walls.

He was the first one through the breach. Tyre was depopulated. 10k men were crucified, and all the women and children were sold into slavery.

>>38675667
look down from the red circle

>>38685315
I decided to pick faith. You'd be surprised how many people have it, in some form.

Any moment where you fought for something that wasn't there at the moment, was when you had faith. And every time you were disgruntled at the results enough to quit was when you were lacking in it. Because that's you fighting for something else - something more. It could be an ideal. It could be in believing in a friend. But there are very important differences between faith and expectation.

Expectation, from its etymology, means to see something outside. It could mean to see what isn't there but only in the mind. We set expectations. I want to be this when I grow up. I want this many likes. When these expectations are met, all is good. However, anything not meeting that idealized outcome is met with frustration, such as of course, life.

We set expectations to meet deadlines, finish projects, set goals, and follow schedule. But to see something that isn't there, something in the near future, is a divide. There is you now, and there is you in the future, but truthfully, there is just you. Delayed gratification systems cause a schism that lends itself to an agonizing journey for a deified destination.

Faith erases this schism not by believing in what is not there, but by believing in what was always there to begin with. When you trust a friend with something, do you trust them to be who they are, or who you want them to be? That's why you can't "have" someone. You can only be with them. Try owning someone, see how that works out. Now try it with the world.

My faith is in this world and in myself, not just what I want these to be. You stop being myopic and see the horizon in the distance. You move closer but never reach it, but now you know it's there. Something more. And only when you move towards it does it exist. When you give up, look away - it's gone.

And for once, you'll know where you're going.

>>38656342
The contraposto sculpting style dod originate in greece, but I don't think this is greece.

>>38661394
i was 5'9'-5'10 180 and looked good af , just because he's not super strong doesn't mean he doesn't look good

>>38670581
Will Smith is a fucking faggot, dude. He's a mental masturbator.

>>38686570
That picture is a Roman copy of a greek statue from the classical period.

>>38656424
I wasnt around during Zyzz.
I wasnt into lifting during Zyzz.
Newfag summer dyel cancer, was Zyzz really this supportive and motivating towards other individuals?

>>38661573
Based angryviolinist holy fuck

>>38667956
he's just explaining how we find motivation and what it can do for us

>>38661723
>no beer
Sorry, nope, no-can do hombre.

>>38663452
>he's got power only because of supernature forces
>Guts is a human and has lived through everything God Hand has put him through, as well as successfully contending full blown apostles.
>guts is the beta

HAH

>>38686663
t. "Doctorate of classical arts"

>>38686568

If there is more to tell, be it a continuation or a new topic, please continue. I'm rechecking this thread throughout the day

If someone read this, please keep this alive for a while. I wanna keep reading the interesting posts but i'm in a serious situation here.