Is this the ideal female body?
>>38610858
It's better than mine, I can say that for sure.
>>38610858
>not posting jazzma.
>>38610907
ribcage too small, looks a bit uncanny
>>38610858
I forgot how hot she was in her day.
>>38610858
That is, actually, the ideal male body.
Body sure. Face lmaooooo
Not for me, but I can see how you guys would like it.
>>38611223
she's still got it desu
>>38610858
What the fuck happened to her face? Bitch is straight outta ToonTown.
Also, no.
no, this is the ideal female body
>>38611580
>cankles
pass
>>38611607
I meant ideal body for sex
not that you'd care, being gay
is the the ideal female body?
protip: it is
>>38611385
How do some white women avoid becoming JUSTed?
>>38611580
source
>>38611621
being jacked off by a beautiful womans well defined calfs is the most intense pleasure a man can expierence and i feel bad for you
no, this is the ideal female body
>>38611715
Perfection.
>>38611622
: ) nice
>>38611656
well defined calves is probably one of the most masculine traits on a person I can imagine
just admit it, you want a woman who looks like a man
>>38611625
Kylie was never very pretty in the face so I think she knows how important keeping fit is for her
Plus she's rich and famous
Most rich and famous older white women do fine cause they can afford good dermatologists and personal trainers
>>38611580
ass is too big
[spoiler]i'm not even irish[/spoiler]
>>38610907
Shes a racist blm supporter.
>>38610884
share a pic??
>>38610858
no.
>>38610907
Disgusting nigger
This
>>38611952
I think you mean to say that it's her job to look good, so she is investing alot of time and money on it.
>>38611580
>>38611580
>>38611628
It's shopped bros. How can you people not tell
>>38613250
honestly, slightly too lean, and legs have no mass. 9.9/10 genes doe
>>38611952
>>38611385
>>38610858
This fucking chick man.
>>38610907
>tfw shes screwing a middle aged white man
>>38614221
Still perfect m8
>>38611580
Looks like my aunt, she couldn't find a boyfriend for ages, after hitting 35 she went to holland and married a Nigerian two years later
>>38615890
>pic of naked butt
>"looks like my aunt"
wut
this is
This is my ideal tbph
>>38615909
the body type, she had pear shape with massive african tier ass like in the picture
this is the perfect woman
>>38610858
Yes
No, this is the perfect woman.
>>38615993
mein negger
>>38610858
Yes
>>38616050
this is shoop right?
>>38616154
no, she really is missing three fingers
>>38610858
Twig arms are gross
>>38616164
kek
>>38615941
>Man nails
Even my nails aren't that wide. Fucking faggot.
>>38616383
What an incredibly strange thing to nitpick.
>>38615941
Pasty ole skin can see the veins nd shit
Grody as hell
>body
>female
>ideal
pick 2
"No"
>>38616050
i want to make violent, loud and dirty love with her
>>38616063
>>38616544
MAMA
>>38616564
JUST KILLED A MAN
Imagine being Daniel Craig in this movie and having to be all like "damn, Monica Bellucci, you fuckin' fine, all sexy with your tight body and repulsive leathery mug. I would totally have sex with you, both my character and the real me." when all he really wants to do is fuck another 16 year old in his dressing room. Like seriously imagine having to be James Bond and not only pretend you're interested in seducing this octogenary wrinkly mess of a woman, the favorable lighting barely concealing her crows feet and leathery skin, and just sit there, take after take, hour after hour, while she mumbles some stupid shit in that half-assed english she picked up in some rural village in Belgium or whatever. Not only having to tolerate her monstrous fucking visage but her haughty attitude as everyone on set tells her she's STILL GOT IT and DAMN, MONICA BELLUCCI LOOKS LIKE *THAT*?? because they're not the ones who have to sit there and watch her ancient fucking mummy hands trying to caress your british spy silky hair. You've been fucking nothing but a healthy diet of blondes and supermodels and later Rachel Weisz. You've never even seen anything this fucking disgusting before, and now you swear you can taste the sweat that's breaking out on her barren womb as she sucks it in to writhe it suggestively at you, smugly assured that you are enjoying the opportunity to get paid to sit there and revel in her "statoosq" (she meant "statuesque" but she's a stupid fucking foreigner from god know's what fucking italian hoodlum)" beauty, the beauty she worked so hard for with personal trainers and expensive facial creams in the previous months. And then the director calls for another take, and you know you could kill every single person in this room before the studio security could put you down, but you sit there and endure, because you're fucking James Bond. You're not going to lose your license to kill. Just bear it. Hide your face and bear it.
>>38615941
>Nice tits
>God tier ass
>All this while having a low bf %
Lootz hit the freaking genetic lottery man.
>>38616544
>ywn suckle on mummy Bellucci's perfect Italian tits in front of the open fire, after a beautiful home cooked lasagna, with a half drunk bottle of primitivo on the side table, as the cool florentian evening breeze blows through the open balcony window onto your sweaty engorged dick, as she whispers filthy sweet nothings into your ear in the duskiest sultriest Italian you can imagine, before she moves her bursting red lips over the head of your cock and sucks your soul right out the tip of your knob...
May as well just fucking end it.
>>38616544
>that sex scene in Shoot 'Em Up
this 2bh
>>38616588
Kek. I enjoyed this.
>>38615970
wew lad
>>38614221
>>38611580
It's shopped to give shit results? hahahahha oh man
Guys need to learn what a real GOAT PAWG ass is. It's not about being big wide and flat, but big tight and curvy at the same time.
>>38617316
it's about being big and round
>>38617346
It's all about how bubbly it is and most importantly the gluteal sulcus when standing straight
>>38616599
What about her face tho?
>>38617394
O LORD MOAR
>>38616599
Pretty sure the tits are fake
>>38616050
>>38616154
yes
boobs or bust
booblets can compete
>>38617560
fuck that looks completly out of proportion
DDs or she aint getting the D
>>38617590
is this more to your liking famalam
>when booblets want to "cut"
>implying they dont need to bulk their boobs
>>38617560
Holy shit. She's a living short stack.
>>38610907
>ywn never sneak up behind her and effortlessly pick her up and throw her over your shoulder as she giggles, kicks, and playfully whines "Noooooo~"
WHEN WILL THEY LEARN
>>38617654
>those three on the right
Why are boobs that small even allowed?
>>38610858
No
This is
>>38617743
literally zero muscle. not that impressive, anyone can just eat little and be thin
>>38613846
Her job technically is to sing
>>38616383
But if her nails are too long, she will hurt you when she fingers your prostate
This is.
>>38618083
>>38618083
I love looking at pictures of women like this
but when it comes to sex I can't get it up with skinny women because my penis thinks it's a male body
>>38611952
>that fatty on the left
>>38616588
I thought she was kinda fuggers in this movie
>>38617681
Are you serious? They don't have any control over how big there boobs are
>>38617560
Boobs is bust tho
>>38617818
But they wont have her hips, tits or ass retard
>>38618195
>>38611580
IS THERE POTENTIAL TO BRING SUCH A WOMAN TO SEXUAL CLIMAX IN THE ABSENCE OF A PENIS WITH DIMENSIONS CORRESPONDING TO 20.32 CENTIMETERS IN LENGTH AND 15.24 CENTIMETERS IN CIRCUMFERENCE MY BROTHERS?
>>38619329
Oh jesus I can never go to japan
I'll go to jail for rape I just know it.
They'll find me in a room of passed out 20/10 gym bunnies, school girls, and MILFs, still savagely pounding the vice grip tight pussy of a Japanese office lady who gave me directions to my hotel room and decided to come along for coffee.
They'll have to bring in 12 fully armed cops and stun me multiple times to stop me from rawdogging the unconscious blissed out woman.
>>38615925
Very nice.
>>38616588
Daniel?
>>38617749
They are just fat with a shit tonne of make up
>>38619377
>>38615925
https://www.instagram.com/ooohbabybeast/?hl=en
Sometimes, race mixing works out, but we still have to stop the kikes.
>>38619329
Who is this extractor of procreative gains?
>>38616588
((( Rachel Weisz )))
>>38616050
i'd fuck her. Just gotta make sure i don't cut my hands on her thighs.
>>38619194
good taste
a classic.
>>38618195
perhaps you should try it with a male body to make sure the problem isn't that your penis thinks it's a female body.
>>38622275
I tried it with a male body and topping a male is boring and unexciting
I need dat ass or I lose my erection
>>38622135
MOAR
>>38617681
idk i kinda like women with smaller breasts
>>38622284
When the hell did you come back here?
>>38622416
after my Serial died, but I haven't been posting regularly
>>38610858
It's ok I guess, but my ideal female body is much better.
>>38610907
>posting jazzma
>>38616050
>>38616154
>>38616520
>>38617535
>>38621027
her name's yesjulz. You're in luck, she recently got a sex tape leaked last month
>>38613168
Mah nigga posting Rachel scheer
The perfect woman is my gf, she doesn't exist
>>38611715
shiho is perfection
>>38622316
Sorry friend only one i have
>>38615925
>hurr durr crossfit best
She drank too much of that kool-aid
>>38611607
Finally, someone who shares my disgust for cankles. It's an instant turn off for me.
>>38617593
That looks more like a G cup to me.
BREHS
https://imgur.com/a/JUvHn
most superior
>>38617407
https://www.instagram.com/rebecca_holly_/?hl=en
she trains at my gym lol
> implying this isn't the ideal female form
>>38623689
what the fuck, thats not a woman, thats clearly a guy. You can see his penis. Are you a homosexual?
>>38617560
That's Hitomi isn't it?
>>38623703
No. It's a feminine penis. That means it's okay
>Not posting tamra dae
>139 posts
>still none of the GOAT
>implying waistlets aren't the female ideal
is this the perfect woman?
>>38623808
>yfw this waist was 100% natural
>>38623707
*ogay
>>38622426
u srs m8, Serial died? holy shit
>>38623820
>>38623857
Strange how this used to be considered curvy, when you compare it to what curvy means nowadays.
>>38623857
Ava Gardner, Sherry Britton, Lynda Carter... I say that but I love Kelly Brook in a Wonder Woman costume despite her being like 100lbs heavier than the last woman.
>>38623846
yeah, she had cervical cancer
she already had cancer by the time she made it :(
>>38623895
>>38623895
fuck man, I-I'm sorry....always thought y'all were a cute couple
>all this photoshop
>you will never have a 1950's pin-up gf
kill me lads.
Plebs
>>38618083
YELLOW FEVER
E
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L
O
W
F
E
V
E
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I'm surprised at the mount of 'thicc'/muscular women here described as "ideal". Anyway, a young Audrey Hepburn had the ideal female body, in my opinion.
>>38623993
SWEDEN YES!
>>38624038
A literal goddess
>>38615925
I hate this dumb bitch. I used to follow on IG she is such a butter face and hangs out with disgusting beaners. Shit form and crosshit workouts.
>>38624203
post example I want to laugh
>mfw when seeing all these titlets being posted in this thread
>>38617835
>>38616732
>>38622468
>>38623815
>>38623711
agree
Anything above I didn't get the chance to go through
>>38623815
wtf ?
What did she spit out ?
>>38622637
Gonna need that tape friendo
>>38615890
Post pics of your aunt
>>38625498
Just Google yesjulz tape and it's like the 2nd or 3rd link. Also, it's on pornhub if you just search yesjulz
You're welcome /fit/ friend.
>>38625611
>>38625498
> it's a fucking nigger
Degenerate whore
http://ddotomen.com/2016/08/13/yesjulz-sextape-leaks/2/
>>38625667
lel keep watching - looks like eurotrash with a tan
but yeah, degenerate shit nevertheless
Option 1
Acceptable only if 20 or older
Option 2
Acceptable any age but preferably under 29
>>38618291
It's called a joke you autistic retard.
ideals for non autistic permavirgin neckbeards:
men: tall with wide shoulders and narrow waist
women: short with wide hips and shapely tits
>>38611607
>>38623490
What are cankles?
>>38619612
Low test manlet detected.
>>38622692
>my south is rising
>>38611580
mirin them hips.. legs are a bit stocky as pointed out though. A tighter more compact ass would be preferable actually
Can't post pics off my phone, but have fun
https://www.instagram.com/miss_olsen87/
>>38626585
>instagram trash
No thank you.
>there are people on this thread right now who unironically prefer a chink that is 70% plastic rather than a thick black goddess
>>38624253
Breast envy is the best envy.
>>38624038
Yeah... "Sweden"
>>38625667
It was her Hispanic ex boyfriend
>>38610858
Yes. And thank you for not posting some fat cow. This boards fascination with fatties is sickening. Simply degenerate.
>>38616458
Pale skin with see trough veins is literally patrician tier, go back to the tropics if you don't like it.
>>38615970
We have a winner.
>>38616708
> the duskiest sultriest Italian you can imagine
Inglese di merda tornatene a casa porco il tuo dio maledetta la tua razza d'infami traditori ti stacco il cazzo a morsi giuro su mia madre t'infilo una scopa in culo e ti sventolo come una bandiera madonna ladra cago in testa alla regina obama negraccio maledetto
>>38611607
>that
>cankles
U wot?
>>38622113
a thick 3.14 wew. The only time I ever saw one was a college soccer player
>>38616863
Very nice
>>38627942
Wot did u say about me mum you cheeky fuckin wop?
>>38624038
Fucking refugees need to go home.
>>38616588
>"statoosq" (she meant "statuesque"
Why would an italian have trouble with a neolatin word?
>>38611385
Pretty sure OP is Bella Thorne
this is the epitome of femininity brehs
>>38623876
>>38623857
>>38623820
>>38623808
>sjws keep pushing the beauty standard of the 50s as being fat
they can't keep getting away with this
>>38626895
>east african sprinting skellies
>thick
>black
>>38628118
Mi scoperei tua madre se non fosse una scrofa anglicana che a succhiato mille cazzi di pachistano fra i suoi denti a forca ingialliti dal te
>>38628469
You take that back
>>38628479
your mother takes it in the back enough for all of us
>>38628252
No, it's Kylie Minogue
Bella Thorne hadn't even puberty'd yet
>>38616732
Winner
>>38628280
Sauce?
>>38628623
Maritza Mendez
no videos. daughter also does porn pics. pretty sure they shop images, but they are juicy. mom is hotter
>>38616588
Imagine being the xenomorph in that scene and having to be all like “damn, Sigourney Weaver, you fuckin fine, all sexy with white panties and gross flat ass. I would totally impregnate you, both my character and the real animatronic me.” when all it really wants to do is lay eggs in another 16 year old in its dressing room. Like seriously imagine having to be the xeno and not only hide in that ship while Weaver flaunts her flat ass in front of you, the favorable lighting barely concealing her legs going directly into her back, and just sit there, take after take, hour after hour while she works it. Not only having to tolerate her disgusting fucking gluteus minimus, but her haughty attitude as everyone on set tells her she’s STILL GOT IT and DAMN SIGOURNEY WEAVER GOT A BOOTY LIKE THAT? because they’re not the ones who have to sit there and watch her strut around in her disgusting granny panties; never before have you seen legs directly connect into someones spine before, no ass, no hips, you didn’t even know that existed before that day. You’ve been eating nothing but a healthy diet of colonists and later alleged space marines for your ENTIRE CAREER coming straight out of LV-426. You’ve never seen anything this fucking disgusting before, and now you swear you can taste the sweat that’s trickling down from her lower back to her knee caps as she shakes her ass to writhe it suggestively at you, smugly assured that you are enjoying the opportunity to get paid to hide there and revel in her “voluptuous" (for that is what she calls herself) ass, the ass she worked so hard for with personal trainers in the previous months. And then the director calls for another take, and you know you could gut every single person in this room before the studio security could put you down, but you sit there and endure, because you’re a fucking xenomorph. You’re not going to lose your galactical conquest over this. Just bear it. Hide both mouths and bear it.
>>38628356
despite the fact I dont like those bellybuttonthingys, you won
>>38623989
Fuck, dude. This hurts. At least my gf has a Bettie Page haircut, right?
>>38619329
her face is so awkward, lol. she doesn't know what to do with it and is self-conscious. id feel bad for her, but im sure shes making decent money
>>38624203
you'd cum your pants if this girl even looked at you faggot
>>38611715
>Jap
>With a perm
Oh fuck, my one true weakness.
I won't be going outside today, lads.
>>38628934
They're probably taking/using screenshots for photos so she switches from her interpretation of "cute" to "sultry".
>>38623711
those fake tits look like bad bolt ons, no thanks. shame, because she seems pretty otherwise.
>>38622113
Fuuaaark, look at those joocy ass calves
>>38623808
>>38623820
waists like that come from corset training.
see
>http://worldrecordacademy.com/human/smallest_waist_world_record_set_by_Cathie_Jung_70825.htm
as example. It's "natural" in that its actually them, but it is a body modification at the same time. When you properly waist train your waist is permanently altered
>>38624012
audrey is loved more for her timeless style and aesthetic face, her body not so much. she actually struggled with body image and had issues with anorexic tendencies. her body wasn't the healthiest/best
>>38626202
calf+ankles. when you have thick ankles and it looks like your calf and ankles kind of blend together- like guys with no necks
>>38629086
>Those eyebrows
>That fringe
God, no.
>>38622113
>You're a virgin!????
>>38610858
No.
>>38623630
Its almost palpable for Goodness sake.
>>38629135
Audrey's cute, but Shirley Maclaine is my sixtiesfu
dddd
>>38610858
>>38610858
pretty much bodywise, shes not blonde thats the problem and her skin is a bit too dark
>>38629239
Your monitor is too dark
Can someone post some tall fit girls? It's my fetish.
>>38622243
literally opened this thread to post this
>>38613168
Goddamn.
I know women like these exist but I think I've seen one, maybe two in real life in the whole of my existence. And even then they were fully clothed so they probably weren't as tight as this.
I can't even imagine what it's like to fuck a woman like this. It makes my fucking chest ache something fierce
>>38628351
Who is this?
>>38610858
>Is this the ideal female body?
Pretty much, yeah
>>38619329
>>38611715
C-c-cute
>>38619329
>>38619858
JEW_001
>>38611715
B R U H
>>38625456
More offspring. I think that's how lizard people give birth, anyway
>>38628987
Reminds me of the old ladies around Chinatown.
>>38610907
Gas that kaffir
>>38617749
>you will never bang the titcow and titcalf at the same damn time
>>38613168
her body is perfect. I want to fudge her in the butt with my dinkle (all 5 inches of it).
>hurr it's so easy to be some skinny beautiful supermodel! Not ideal at all!
>Posts some ugly black woman thats on steroids
s m h
>>38619374
>Oh jesus I can never go to japan
>I'll go to jail for rape I just know it.
If you go to japan what will really happen is that you will realise that the internet has lied to you about what japanese women look like
>>38610858
She doesn't have a big butt.
>>38617394
JESUS TAKE THE WHEEEEEEL I'M DONE WITH LIFE
>that peachfuzz on here bumcheeks hnnnnnnnnnnng
>>38622921
>she's the perfect 10
>>38610858
you guys disgust me with your body ideals
true beauty comes from the inside
Is this the ideal female body?
>>38631604
The post / filename combination is beautiful
>>38631630
Too soon, bro.
>>38622243
She's not even posing for the pic. She's just that hot even when doing mundane things. Truly, she has been blessed.
>>38628280
W-who?
>>38629014
I mean maybe but, jesus
>>38623895
im not an oldfag enough to have known you
but im so sorry, my man
>>38631674
Why too soon?
You will never milk these udders
>>38623989
>>38623876
>>38623857
>>38623820
>>38623808
>you'll never be a part of the world's first lifting couple
>you will never stay married to your waifu for over 50 years
:_:
>>38628428
but it was...?
>>38632426
Yep, I see no difference between the model and the picture.
Also the venus of botticcelli which was modelled by an emaciated 13yo is perfectly represented by an obese woman and the egyptian art clearly depicts african-americans.
>>38617749
I would give anything to spend a night with Christina Hendricks
>>38632462
Egypt is in Africa you stupid atheist.
>>38632531
She has implants and looks nothing like that without a dress with push up cleavage. So you'd probably end up being disappointed (if you gave away your kidney or something, at least)
>>38628766
I think she's pretty
>>38615947
did you shag her
did you try
did you starefuck her ever so she knew you wanted
>>38628766
>her legs going directly into her back
>>38632330
newfag
OUT OUT OUT
>>38628934
her faces really turns me on, she doesnt look like the jap dolled up porn bitches but rather like an actual human being
>>38632563
>
>>38610858
Calves should be bigger.
Shoulders and arms should be slightly bigger.
>>38619194
Those boobs are fake af, wouldn't be surprised if her ass isn't either.
>>38617593
>that bitch in the reflection
Jelly as fuck
>>38629498
Looks like an older pic of Natasha Aughey. She thicc af now.
>>38629498
https://www.instagram.com/alisamarie_tarsa/
>>38611622
absolutelydisgusting.jpg
>>38611952
>Kylie was never very pretty in the face
Fucking autist, literally an hero, plz
>pic = random
>>38616588
kek
> Acquire gf with perfect, ideal body
> Thick, curvy, gravity-defying DD tits
> 3 months later
> Start looking at lots of tall slender girls
> Can't stop thinking about tall slender girls
> Break up
> Acquire tall slender gf
> 3 months later
> Start looking at short, busty girls
> Break up
> Acquire short, busty gf
> 3 months later
> Start looking at /fit/girls
> Break up
> Acquire /fit/girl gf
> 3 months later
> Start looking at thick, curvy girls with gravity-defying DD tits
How do we feel about this?
>>38628280
>>38635934
You need a harem.
>>38635934
Kinda similar story,
>hook up with short curvy woman
>3 years later get married
>she stopped having sex with me
>15 years later, still not having sex with me
>obviously I masturbate all the time, keep switching between pictures of curvy girls and this really feminine fit girl I'm always creeping out at work.
What's it like to have sex with more than one woman? Do you ever feel guilty about it?
This is the ideal female body
>>38627301
WHO
>>38635596
She's not even looking in her direction...
>>38636075
Based Buck Angel
>>38636075
thanks jerk, my dad's uncle just sucked-off my boss.
>>38636033
> sex with more than one woman
Mixed. A well-managed relationship can bring a lot of long-term happiness but can never match the big spikes of awesome that you get when you first start seeing a new girl. Conversely, you can get used to bad girl drama as a single man, but bad relationship drama in a relationship you want to keep hurts deep.
So even if you never have any dry spells, it's still a cycle of brief perfect times interspersed with a lot of low-level annoyance or pain. Never been married but I did see one girl for three years; it was very nice while I kept an active hand in managing it but got pretty bad where I didn't.
Chasing new girls can get to feeling empty sometimes, but it's still way better than being totally alone and way better than a bad relationship.
Probably this, desu
>no ones posted her yet
for shame /fit/
>>38636528
read the thread you fucking moron
>>38632426
You take fucking buzzfeed SJW central seriously:?
After I saw that video i literally looked up a few pages worth of famous 50s actresses.
LITERALLY NONE looked like that.
>>38627301
What episode of Full House is this from?
>>38619951
Cutest Jew desu
>>38628083
I like short haired girls but this girl just looks like Haley Joel Osment.
>>38637137
I like the improv and the ass, but damn when she's doing that it's like she's gonna pinch something in her lower back.
Is that just me?
>>38610858
That's like asking "what's the ideal female face?" Some people might say Brittany Spears or Emma Watson but everyone's gonna say something different, until you run out of famous composite averages.
Every body is different, and if you really want to quantify and rank it, then think about deviations from the norm, and wether or not it's being "pulled off" or used positively instead of negatively. For example having freckles on your arms can be a source of shame for some, but it can also be something people find beautiful.
It's comforting to think that there are objective standards of beauty (and perhaps there are) but most things fall along with "Blonde," that's clearly an arbitrary feature we've decided looks best. Curvy, thin, big boobs, petite, big ass or tall are the main traits people like imo and they're definitely in the category of arbitrary cultural norms. So if you're distinct from some physical archetype of beauty, being confident in yourself creates a path for people to follow, and appreciate your beauty. In each person you can find something different to appreciate. And everyone else can appreciate something else about them. It's a shame that so much positivity is torn down by the over-refining of the concept of beauty.
>>38632531
She's trying to make inroads with Jaguar. Potentially if you signed on as a client...
>>38632374
I was waiting for her to spray some milk into the cup. What a letdown.
>>38632426
CTR is escaping it's containment board. Maybe one of them wants to join a gym.
>>38616588
10/10
>>38627942
Sounds about right
this is
>>38623630
Literally who
>>38610858
It's one of the more ideal ones in my eyes.
I have a few Ideal female bodies, though.
>>38629086
Eh, I'm into the skinner/petite woman (or as some here would say: hungry skeleton), so I guess it's just a matter of preference.
>>38617403
she's been described as a 7/10
she's probably pretty average, her body is a 10 i agree.
>>38637922
well I mean she won a bronze medal in olympic weightlifting. she's probably fine. lidia valentin
>>38638400
tfw we never got source
>>38638493
shiori tsukada
>>38638400
>1pl8