How the /cut/ going /fit/?

154 pounds down from 190. 24 more to go, maybe.

Jesus Christ I'm so fucking hungry I want pizza in my mouth so fucking badly fuck.

>>38587124
Holy shit man, good job! You can do it.

>>38587026
Pretty good, doing IF and losing weight like it's nothing
>inb meme diet

>>38587197
I've got to try it sometime i think. IF, is there a website which redpills me on IF?

>>38587026
Race season (bicycle road racer) is over for me for this year, so now I can start cutting next week to get my weight down *below* where I want it, so when I am forced to eat a surplus during parts of my Fall weight training, I'll only gain back up to where I want to be at the beginning of the 2017 race season. So this weekend is the last weekend before I start cutting down. I've already started taking nothing but water with me on the bike for rides of any length, which I've demonstrated to myself is a great way to help enhance the daily deficit; the last time I did this, I was losing 2-3 pounds per week, which was great.

>>38587173
thanks senpai

Was at 275 pounds @5'10 in april
Now at 225 lbs
Preliminary goal is 175lbs, so I'm exactly halfway there now.
What's great is that my leg musculature is pretty strong due to having to get my fat ass up the stairs every day for years. I bet I'll feel like a feather once I drop another 50lbs.

Good-ish. Lost 15 lbs in a little over a month. I did get put on steroids for an ear infection, which made me gain a little back, but nothing huge.

I do need to lose 100 more pounds, though. So far, so good. I do get hungry from time to time, but I don't really want to eat? It's kind of decrease in appetite but not really. If it gets too bad I eat an orange. Fuck me I love oranges.

Also been swimming for an hour and a half a day.

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>>38587026
Good on the diet side, but fuck my genetics. Belly fat doesn't want to go away. Slightly visible abs, but it won't go much better than that.

At least I can attract the homo demographic with my perpetual thicc built look.

Tried HIIT for the first time this year. Works like a marvel.

>>38587229

Watch this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETkwZIi3R7w

And this whole series of videos if you want more info:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpllomiDMX0

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Retard here, went from 177 to 167 in 2 1/2 weeks cutting. Just ate a whole pizza.

Am I going to die?

>>38587787
Yes

Hate to break it to ya

Been cutting for damn near a year. Down from 190 to 147. Still have maybe 6-7 more lbs to lose. Time to get rid of that last bit of fat and finally start a slow bulk.

How much damage can you really do to your cut in one day? I m 5'11, 86kg and I'm eating 1500 cals, which according to mfp should have me lose around a kg a week. I'm consistent on weekdays but there's always one day out of the weekend that gets me hard and I'll eat like 3000 cals.

wish i bought a food scale years ago. also tempted to sign up for myfitnesspal premium just to have it easy to have gram as a measurement

badly, i need to find something to be able to snack on after dinner...i keep caving and having instant noodles :/

pefectly.
i got rid of every kind of food in my kitchen and ordered a month worth of joylent.

(for the curious: https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/joylent/app/public/ckeditor_assets/attachments/78/label_banaan140x200def.pdf here are nutritional values)

i'm only eating this for a month.
on day 4 today.

>>38588524

obviously i'm not eating THEIR suggested quantity, but mine, based on my caloric needs to cut

>>38588484
Buy bags of frozen broccoli and microwave half the bag when you get hungry.

>>38587787
Oh God, you'll be fine just stop eating and carry on normally the next day. Don't weigh yourself because pizza = a lot of water weight. I swear some of the people on this board go crazy first eating a little. Worse than the Paleo moms.

What's your favourite go-to low calorie meal, /fit/?

>>38588524
>joylent

lol fucking beta as fuck

>>38588692
care to elaborate?

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>>38587026
Dunno. You tell me. Shouldnt my body fat decline chart look a bit like my weight chart?

>>38588740
there are random variations in both variables and mistakes when the data were taken. Don't worry about that, just don't take decisions based on a single data

>>38588702
cook your meals like a fucking man instead of using some faggy hipster soy powder. pathetic.

>>38588764
Yeah but the average looks solid right?

>>38588740
Also is my weight decline healthy? Or should I slow down. Im aiming for 70-71.

>>38588787
not soy, it's oatmeal :)
btw i'm only doing this for the first month, so i can calculate every fucking calorie and do not worry about nutrients.
just look at this as a perfect cut.
since october i'll cook my meals like the rest of us.

>>385887

yes. You're comparing the decreasing of your total weight with a percentage. The slope shouldn't be equal in both cases, so don't worry about that

>>38587026
6' 201lb 22%bf

25lbs is the aim, by mid-late November started August 19th

Doable on 2100 BMR + 4 days training a week + 400 deficit right brehs?

>>38588807
But if it continues like this Im going to be 60kg before I hit 12%ish.

>>38588864

How are you measuring your BF%?

>>38588875
Withings Scale. But once in 2 weeks I do a 3 fold measurement with a caliper to see if it is in check with the scale. But Im fucking retarded with a caliper and I get different readings every time. So I do it a couple of times and enter the average in a calculator.

>>38588484
Meal prep bro! Having a meal in the fridge with all the right macros makes turning down ze noodels ez mode.

>>38588799
tried looking up ingredients but Joylent website is a nightmare to navigate. can you post nutrient profile?

bingeing on weekends. mon-fri diet on point. still in a defecit though

>>38588901
it's in the pdf i posted above

https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/joylent/app/public/ckeditor_assets/attachments/78/label_banaan140x200def.pdf

nutrients & ingredients

When is the best time to weigh yourself for a more "true" measurement.

>>38588927
morning after peepee

>>38588897

Ignore it and just use the mirror.

Those scales are inaccurate. That wouldn't be a problem except they're inconsistently inaccurate and get fucked up by a thousand different things.

Calipers aren't entirely accurate either but they're also very prone to user error.

>>38588911
man youd be better off just grinding oatmeal into dust and mixing it with whey. that stuff sounds ridiculous. probably paying more than its worth, as well. oh also it has soy flour.

No point in cutting because I'm weak.

>>38588945
it costs less than 2€/meal and it's completly effortless.
and it also act as a multivitaminic.

>>38588964
a container of oats is $2. oats, whey, take a multi. just trying to save you hassle/money, bro.

>>38588988
oats+whey+multi = more than 2€/meal

>>38588526
Pic here ^

Cut going slowly. Would like to think only a few kg to go, but got big parties coming up over the next few weekends which will make things touch.

>>38587026
pretty good, became vegan, cutting is fking easy now

Going alright actually, probs got about two more weeks to go, then I can start maintaining/clean bulking.
Getting a bit bored of the same meals every day so going to make a cauliflower base pizza tonight, hope I don't fuck it up.

>>38589578
how long do you cut for?

>>38589538
>became vegan

Nice, Turned vegetarian earlier this year. Has been 10 months. No chance I'm going back to being a carnivore.

pretty good
lost 4kg in the last 3weeks

>>38589609
About two months, needed to lose about 14 pounds.

>>38589647
shitty memesters saying that vegetarians cant be fit.
do you use any supplements btw?

>>38589661
okay, thx

At 18% bf, feelin kinda bad

Had a labor day family outing yesterday and probably ate 2.5k-3k calories, despite being at a 1.7k TDEE. I'm not going to make it, guys.

Also, are multivitamins worth it? I feel low on energy and get a lot of migraines when adhering to my cut.

>>38588466
maybe its just my science brain, but grams is so much easier on mfp. no fucking around with "cups" or "containers"; just stick everything on the scale.

>been at 15% bf for fucking weeks upon weeks now
>still no ab definition
>doing more exercise than ever
>eating actually less than I was when I started cutting

FUCK

>>38587026
Weighed 285 and got it down to 264 in three months on a keto diet. I'm fucking dying right now I've tried commiting suicide like three times already since I feel like i'd be letting my family down going back to my old ways and also because I was talking mad shit and I'd rather be dead than be wrong. If I end up still looking ugly when I reach my goal weight I'm just going back to my old ways, don't get me wrong I have tons of discipline I will reach my target weight.

>>38589750
u do cardio?

>>38589731
>family outing
>probably ate 2.5k-3k
Should've stuffed your face with tons and tons of veggies, senpai.
That's how I roll and never any issues.

>>38589973
Literally every 2nd day I run 10km

>>38589731
>1.7K tdee
are you sure your not confusing your bmr with you tdee mate

fucked up and had 4 slices of pizza hut on friday, ate a little less and did some extra cardio this weekend, and the excess has been coming off nicely. shooting a music video with my band next week and I'm tryna drop the tiniest extra bit of fat so going into this week with renewed dedication.

>>38590235
I've use Scoob's and the sticky's TDEE calculators. Scoob's has me coming out at 1.7k, the sticky's has me coming out at 2k. Very confusing. Thinking of just doing my cut at 1k flat.

>>38587197

I've been doing IF year round for years.I feel like it really helps me stay lean and fairly /fit/ even when I'm not able to go to the gym.

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I'm fucking miserable today. so hungry.

I saved up my calories yesterday and had pizza for dinner with a dessert. I stayed within my goal and enjoyed the meal. Then today I just feel like crap because I'm just megacraving shitty food.

I can't focus on anything other than my ravenous hunger. The pizza was delicious but not worth this misery.

I'll stay strong, but this feel is fucking horrible

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>>38587769
I have recently seen those Jason Fung videos you're linking to. I have some problems with them, though. The Kevin Hall model he's presenting, which shows that protein oxidation is almost non-existent during fasting, is based on a predictive mathematical model from a 1915 study on a single person.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPi1LQHBWBk
A link to a video where Kevin Hall is presenting the study in question (around 14 min in).
Another thing is that Jason Fung presents a study which showed that people who underwent 70 days of fasting intervention lost a lot of fat but retained all muscle mass. The problem is that those people had an average body fat percentage of 45 % which is clearly not the same as people using IF to cut to single digits while retaining mass and strength.
It's not that I'm against IF, in fact, I love its simplicity and am rooting for it, but these things really should be addressed.

>>38587755
same boat, foam. no HIIT though, I'm a postman so i get about 4-6 hours of cardio 6x a week though.

>>38587026
8KG DOWN IN A LITTLE MORE THAN A MONTH BABY
Feeling gud too

>>38588436

1500 + (3000-1500)/7 is your actual daily average intake retard. So like 1700ish.

>literally 6.5 hours of exercise yesterday, the sweating and panting kind, not bullshitting
>skipped dinner
>ate healthy today, had a small steak for iron and protons
>went grocery shopping, didn't buy a single item of bread or junkfood.
>fridge is stocked with spinach and salad fixings, mushies, fresh produce, milk, meat, and cottage cheese

breddy gud

5'10, 161 lbs (down from 220). last I used my calipers, I was 18% bf.

I want to build muscle, but abs are my number 1 goal. Sucks, feels like I'll be at this forever.

>>38587026

Fine until last night. Friend had a birthday party and I went along with everybody else drinking beer and eating disgusting party food.

Not SO bad because I spent the week before eating under my calorie goal and the day of nothing but a serving of carrots beforehand, but totaling up everything I ate just now made me feel pretty disgusted with myself.

This shitty feeling will be well remembered.

IF at 2500kcal from 4PM till about midnight, went from 92kg to 86.5kg. Stalled though and hovering at 86.5kg for a month now because birthday end of summer binge drinking. I promise that I'll be taking you really seriously in 2 weeks IF please don't give up on me.

Down from 82.5kg to 76kg. Still 6kg to go.

180cm fyi

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Lost 8.5kg in 2.5 months, almost halfway done (aiming to lose around 20). going breddy gud.
Also making mad wallet gains after I completly stopped eating out and started cooking stews of 5-6 portions with lunchboxes.

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Currently trying to lose my lovehandles then I hope I will look decent. bf estimation would be great and sry for the shitty quality my Nexus 5 camera sucks.

>>38588927
Right after a night's sleep, before drinking and after pissing.
It doesnt make much sense to measure at any other time, the difference between a full and empty bladder is ~0.8kg in my case. When you take into account fresh food and water in your stomach you can get a 2kg measurement error, which is fuck-huge.

>>38587026
Pretty well, starting to get more shredded
Have puffy nips and now when I wear polos and shirts they dont appear to be poking anymore, feels fucking awesome

anyone knows a good TDEE calculator though?
Some give me 1800kcals for cutting at like 500 deficit others 2000kcals

the one that gives 2k is an excel I got from here and seems legit
I'm 177cm and 71.8kg, lift 3x week

Down 20 lbs in a month and a week.

Of course I'm sick right now and just not eating, so that might qualify as cheating. I dunno.

>>38591309
I'm the anon who linked the videos by Fung. Quite interesting. Thanks for sharing those problems with his theory.

I'd love to see a better general investigation about IF

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>>38592827
Hi again. Anon who commented here.
Yeah, it would be fantastic to have some more information about the pros and cons of this approach.
Regarding the muscle loss, there are some other studies that deserve to be put in the spotlight in this discussion.
Particularly studies about myonuclear domain theory which basically run along the lines of it being vastly easier to regain lost muscle mass than building new. This effectively means that the muscle loss during a cut isn't such a concern provided that you're not a physique athlete but just a recreational lifter. Anyway here are some articles that touch on it:
http://sigmanutrition.com/is-slow-and-steady-actually-the-best-way-to-diet-calorie-deficits-2/

http://daily.barbellshrugged.com/the-new-science-of-muscle-memory/

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I've had a fantastic day of eating today

I'm a recovering fatty in a long term cut. What sort of lifting routine can I do to maintain the muscle I have now?

>>38587026
6'2
253 lbs in May
Today I'm 204 lbs

The goal for now is 165 lbs and I know I'm gonna make it, even if I slightly miss binging

6'4
329lb 1.5 months ago
Just now 308lb
Long way to go.

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>>38593563

>He trackshis exercise in myfitnesspal

>>38593563
don't trust that exercise calculator mate, its usually much higher than what you're burning

stick with 1700kcal

Is 1.5-2 g/lb LBM really necessary for cutting?

>>38595539
g protein/lb LBM*

>>38593674
>long term cut
also known as a diet

low impact cardio and any beginner lifting routine.

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2000 kcal deficit here I go.

>>38590929
I will ruin this picture forever for you

http://www.lastnightsparty.com/anthemic/slides/IMG_1701.html

331 down to around 290ish. The scale in my new apartment is shitty and fluctuates depending on where I place my feet relative to center of the scale.

40 pounds lighter is aparrently noticeable to everyone around me, and not myself. I can sort of tell that my face looks slimmer, and my man boobs have kind of receeded. Mostly I just feel a lot better.

Been cutting at around 1500-1800 a day. Also been walking a minimum of 5 miles a day, either through walking to class, or going on designated walks through campus.

Honestly, the biggest help in all of this has been cutting out calories from my beverage consumption. No more pop. Pretty much only drink water or flavored sparkling water (also no cals). I still will drink a cup of milk from time to time.

Haven't had a "cheat day" basically since I started. Depends what a cheat day is I guess. Only crested 2000 calories in a day once in the last 3 months, and 2300 calories is a -1000 defecit in my case.

Goal weight is around 170. I'd like to hit 250 or so by christmas break. I think I can make it.

>>38595758
I don't get it. How is it ruined?

166.6 from 205. should i follow iifym calorie count or just do 1500- im lost and plateaud

>>38587387
How do you do it? What do you usually eat to not get hungry/ if hungry what do you eat?

Is it alright to be on a cut and not do too much cardio? I do like a 45 min walk to warm up for lifting but that's basically it. I do lift a lot tho, have a 5 day split

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>>38587026
Bad. I got totally lost last week and ate bad every single day. Gained 1kg

REEEEEEE I WANT TO KILL MYSELF NOW

>>38587197
IF is goat.

>>38597569
Hey 1 kg in a week aint so bad.
So you fell off the bike, get back on it

>tfw binged for dinner a few weeks ago and gained 3lbs

Just started back at gym since 6 years ago. It's been 3 weeks. Went from 127 to 119 so far.

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>>38587026
Can finally see my clavicles easily.
>mfw gf tells me she's proud I'm keeping up with my diet so well
Feels really good
We're all gonna make it brehs

I'm 6'1 195lbs, lifting for 9 months. I have a bit of a gut that makes me really uncomfortable, so I've been thinking about doing a cut, but I'm worried I might lose the noob gains I've made so far? Should I?

>>38598040
Well summer is practically over, maybe cut after winter?

>>38598134
I live in the wrong hemisphere

>>38598168
Oh fug, maybe just try to recomp? Won't lose gut as fast but you'll keep, if not make more gains

>>38598204
Recomp?

Cut from 91kg->78kg over about 6 months. About 3kg to go.

Strength (3x5 except dead):

>Squat
140 -> 95 (knee injury)
>Deadlift
170 -> 140 (see above)
>OHP
65 -> 60
>Bench
100 -> 90
>Row
95 -> 85
>Pullup
25 -> 17.5

Hoping that all that strength will bounce back when cuts over. Measurements read good.

>Chest
42.5"
>Waist
38"->32"
>Arms
14.5" -> 14.5"

Just binged and had a 3.5k day. Contemplating suicide.

290 from 300 in 3 weeks. Lean body mass is 190lbs. Body fat % is almost the same as when i was 300 so I'm probably losing muscle. Today was a cheat day so I ate at maintenance. Feelsgood overall

>>38599329
Did that yesterday. Was sicker than shot from allergies. Went to A&W and got s burger, fries, and s shake. Today was better though.

>>38599545
>290lbs
>cheat day
Son...

>tfw plateauing on my arm based lifts

I'm at 115 bench and 85 OHP. It's really shitty to do this week after week. Should I start doing cycling, or just deal with it until my cut is over?

>>38599593
Those are lbs, by the way.

>>38587026
Just started it..
Currently 235 at 6'4
Want to get to around 220ish and go from there

>tfw was 290
>tfw dropped to 190 and thought I looked liked shit
>tfw have a picture from when I was 190
And realized how decent I looked

But I bulked to 250 and hopefully made good gains all my lifts went up so hopefully after this little cut I'll look decentish

>tfw I want husbando mode

>>38599556
I'm 148lbs at 5'9 and look like crap.

And when this shit happens I just feel like giving up and putting a bullet in my skull.

>>38599616
Don't binge so much. You just need to focus and get those lifts organized

>>38587197
I like the idea of IF but I dont like working out on an empty stomach. But I dont like training on a full bloated stomach (which you get when you are in your eating window)

>>38599634
what about 24 hour fasting cycle scheduelled to your workout and rest days?

>>38587026
Going well. Legit just started and I went from 235 to 228. It's small but it's huge when in comparison to all the bullshit diets and stuff I used to try before.

>>38599593
> 115 bench and 85 OHP.
>Should I start cycling
If you're talking about gear just kill yourself and save some money because you clearly don't have the dedication to cycle properly. If you're talking about cardio just ignore me.

>>38599700
Not gear, fucking cycling calories you idiot. As in higher on work days, lower in rest days

>>38598254
Please, someone explain to me what recomp is.

How can I stop binging bros

>>38599756
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=body+recomposition

>>38587124
Water caffeine fats and fibrous foods when and if you eat carbs etc,

>>38599756

Recomposition. Changing your body composition.
Losing fat and gaining muscle at the same time. Basically a simultaneous bulk and cut.

The holy grail of /fit/ really, it takes some SERIOUS diligence with regards to your diet.

What is optimal weight loss per week? I've only lost 2kg in 2 weeks. Should I eat less?

>>38599873
Thanks, I'll have a look into it.

>>38599878

That's more than ample, anon.
Unless you're SUPER heavy to begin with, even .5kg/wk is fine.
What's your diet looking like right now that's helping you to drop a full kilo a week?

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>Eat small bowl of cheerios with almond milk and bread with peanut butter for breakfast
>Don't eat for 12 hours, don't feel hungry the entire time
>Force myself to eat a small dinner
>Full by the end of some beans and veggies

I guess I'm making it, down 40lbs, 60lbs more to go. I'll be an ugly fuck with disgusting loose flesh when I'm done, so it's hard to get any motivation. No reason to even lose weight aside from being healthier.

How do you fat fucks get the motivation? All that weight loss and you'll still be an ugly shit. I want to look normal but even surgery wont do that.

>>38599634
>Eat a moderate sized breakfast
>Go to gym ~2 hours later
>Don't eat till dinner that night

I feel this is the best way to do IF.

>Approaching last 15lbs of my 120lb cut
>have been lifting all throughout my cut
>Have a lot of loose skin and gyno
>accepted that I may never be aesthetic, but that's the reality of letting myself get to 300lbs

The cuts going alright

>>38599894
I'm eating at 1250cals (+/-) a day trying to cut to 125lbs from 135lbs. Muh winter bulk, spring now.

My diet looks like this:
Breakfast:
Scrambled Eggs (2 eggs) with spinach
Green Tea

Lunch:
Tuna + Spinach
Water

Dinner:
Grilled Chicken
Sweet Potato
Water

I like spinach very much. If I snack in between it's 2-3 dates or a banana.

Is $5 for 2.5lb frozen chicken good?

Pretty gud
Just ate an entire pizza for lunch

>97kg (I think is almost 200lb)
>I am hungry almost all day long.
>I full myself with a lot of water.
>A gallon at day.
>Diet is almost 1500 cal.
>TDEE 2944.
>Fucking huge deficit.
>Losing sizes pretty fucking fast
>I'm actually more heavier
>Gain 2kg (5lb) of muscle in a month
>Never knew I had this good genetics
>I enter /fit/ almost everyday after workout
>Get motivation to still cutting
>We are all gonna make it

>>38600046
Iktf
>193 cm tall
>used to be 150 kg
>begin massive cut
>lose 50 kg
>start working out
>muscle definition within a month
>holy Fuck where did muh genetics come from

>>38599978
Also sometimes if it's not chicken it's roasted beef. Meat price is pretty good where I live so I eat a lot of meat.

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>>38587026
Great, started at 275 3 weeks ago, currently at 266 down 9 lbs. Week 4 now goal is 215 still making strength gains hit 225x12 on bench

Is it normal to gain weight after a cut? Ive gained 2 lbs, it's been 2 weeks since I stopped cutting and I've been eating at maintenance.

>>38587026
Am going to go on a PSMF soon.

Only need to get a few more ducks in a row and i'll be able to start it off tomorrow.

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>>38587026
Going alright. On my 3rd week and so far I see improvements such as a little thinner on my face. I know it's just water weight and there's still work that needs to be done but I'm gonna make it.

i really don't know how to cut i always lose a lot of weight but never get shredded even spent 5 months losing weight and still not even vascular 210-174lb height 5'9

bump pls

>>38599914
Tbh My face genetics are pretty okay. I can't imagine my face would get ugly out of nowhere if it slimmed down some. But that's just me.

>>38599914
Don't worry anon, there are some like me who appreciates all forms of aesthetics. I find some ugly guys attractive in a weird way, like a hot ugly if that makes sense

>>38600671
>I find some ugly guys attractive in a weird way, like a hot ugly if that makes sense

Kek I thought I was the only one. I find attractive guys hot too of course, but some "ugly" or average guys look really hot to me too in a strange way I can't explain, like I can appreciate the unconventional structure of their face. It's hot. As long as the guy lifts anyway.

>>38600701
Nice, It's not just me either! Attractive guys are hot too but I think there's often an animalistic/beastly attractiveness to some ugly guys that lift and with what you said, unconvential structures of their face. I for one find the caveman browbone so fucking hot.

>>38600248
If you're gaining weight, you're not eating at maintenance. Trim it back a little more.

>>38587026
Went from 200 to 194 then back to 200 over labor day weekend. Fucking sucks

>>38600783
This is /fit/ not a dieting support group.

Anyway, you'rejust detaining water you didn't gain 6 pounds of fat in a weekend.

>>38600344
help...

>>38587026
I'm down from over 300 to 235.

It's hard to tell my exact weight because waterweight fluctuates alot but i look Really good compared to before.

The thing that bothers me is that my left titty and left arm are bigger than my right, I think i just have more muscle underneath the fat on that side but it looks gross

In about 3 more months i'll post some progress pics

>>38599678
What does your current diet looks like?

Forget cutting out food, you should do hookworms to lose some weight. Hookworms are great!

Also if you have trouble with allergies, asthma, or Crohn's disease you might wanna check them out. I used to have some serious allergies but I infected myself with hookworms and don't have a problem anymore and it's great! Just make sure to infect yourself with about 10 so that the anemia doesn't get too severe.

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>>38587124
Duuuude thats amazing!! Keep it up!

>>38600248
Depends. It may just be a water weight rebound.

>>38587026
I love to fantasize about cutting. Some days I do it for an hour or two. Mostly I just wish I had the will power.

>>38587026
like shit, relapsed and gained 15lbs

>>38600728
>here's often an animalistic/beastly attractiveness to some ugly guys that lift
That's exactly what I feel in words
Attraction is weird

>>38600759
I gained them immediately after stopping my cut and have maintained that weight for a few weeks. Hopefully it is just water weight.

Not sure what I should do at this point.

I'm 23 years old and tried to improve myself with mostly strength training in the past. The last two years I did mostly nothing and I lost a lot of definition but my shoulders are still wide and I have a big of chest from doing heavy compounds. A girl said my frame was one of my best features but it still implies the definition isn't there. Now I find myself in a shitty situation where my definition isn't enough but I've lost too much muscle to cut because it's nonexistant.

Should I just bite the bullet and bulk for the winter and cut for the summer?

>>38601076
If you had that muscle once it'll be much easier to get it back. I'd say bulk or you risk spinning your wheels (recomp is much harder to get right), but keep it a light/lean bulk. To regain lost muscle you don't need that much of a surplus as you would to build completely new muscle.

>>38600927
pls go

>>38587124
Make pita pizzas. 500 cals for two. Light sauce, light cheese, turkey pepperoni.

>>38599991

breast? amazing. full chicken? average.

>>38600046

if your diet is 1500cal and your tdee is 3000, you are not putting on muscle. stop deluding yourself. You are wrong somewhere.

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>>38587026
It is going great and I feel great. I weighed in at 281.8lbs. Thursday will be the 3rd week I've been cutting. Started at 302 lbs.

>Lost 45lbs
>Doesn't look like I've lost any weight to me
>Someone I haven't seen in awhile says I look like I've lost some weight/look pretty good
I guess it's going good.

3 weeks, down 8.5 pounds. 91.5 to go, slow and steady senpai.

anyone else find it easier to just eat one fucking "big" meal a day

>>38602217
nice progress bro
keep pushing!

>>38602341
I eat two ''big'' meals a day.
Breakfast/dinner.

>>38600924
The /fit/ staple - chicken, veg and a sort of grain (I do rice because I'm just used to it).

TDEE was something around 2400cal, and daily cal is like 1600, but I tend to eat portionally till satisfied and it only comes to 1000-1100cal daily (I'm working on eating more as I add more working out).

>>38587026
>eat well under my calorie limit
>take big natty shit in the morning
>whey myself
>gained 3 pounds
How does this fucking happen fit? Is it water weight? I've been incredibly anal about counting my calories and measuring foods on a food scale.

>>38587026
Started at 255 currently 184. I'm trying to get 175

>>38603814
Weigh yourself in the morning. The day before you weigh in, stop eating and drinking around 7pm. Drink a shit ton of water leading up to that point so that you can flush it out.

>>38603889
Weighed in the morning, but didn't consider not eating/drinking after 7pm
I'll try that today, thanks anon

5'11, started at 80kg and down to 76kg. Been kinda chubby most of my life, don't really know how far down I have to go to get rid of the tummy fat.

>>38603889
>>38603907
Who the fuck does something like that just to make yourself feel good, sounds pathetic

>>38603964
It's just a way for you to always measure yourself at the same state, you cuck.

Is there actually any point of doing cardio while cutting? I mean, you'd already be at a deficit regardless.

>>38604077
To create extra deficit?

>>38604077
If you find yourself stalling on your cut, it can certainly help
Plus it's healthy for you, them long term health benefits. Just don't run if you're really overweight so you don't damage your joints. Swim or bike instead

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>>38604077
I'm curious about this too.

I went home for labor day weekend and fucked my cut up big time. Probably lost 2 weeks progress in 4 days.

>>38603964
>getting accurate weigh ins
>pathetic

You're retarded

>>38604368
>brb didn't know we were competing

fuck off fat ass

Started at 251

Stalled at 243-245 for a long ass time (2-3 weeks)

Suddenly at 237

I guess IF works.

>>38604515
Nice brah

IF+IIFYM master race

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>my fridge when broke college student
>those beers have been sitting there for a month

Going to Walmart or winco today to grab some groceries, would love to hit up Costco but I dont have a job so I'm not Costco ballin right now. My shopping list:
>Rolled Oats
>Bananas
>Frozen chicken breasts
>Frozen broccoli
>Greek yogurt
>Eggs

Fuck that's a sad list, I'm so broke right now bros

I should probably get some beans too what's the cheapest kind to get and the best way to cook them?

Mostly out of laziness for the past week I've been eating oatmeal+protein powder and Jimmy johns tuna sandwiches w/out mayo

>>38604501
>it does nothing to know what your true weight is without 2-5 lbs of water weight

Hey bro, chug a gallon of water and weigh yourself.

This is poor bait. Fuck off fatty

>>38604547
grab sriracha and honey if you can spare it. Makes an excellent sauce for the chicken breast.

>>38604547
Get some rice.
Get some cheap ground beef.
Get some spinach.

>>38604547
Rice
Greek yogurt
Protein powder, even overpriced ON is more cost effective than real food
Ground turkey is usually cheaper than beef
Broccoli
Potatoes
Pancake mix
Grits
Eggs

Enjoy

>>38604546
Hell fucking yeah. This is literally the first time I've been able to stick to a deficit. If I eat 3 meals a day I always go over.

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>>38604628
No need, I usually just use salt+pepper+hot sauce on my chicken and I'm perfectly fine with that
>>38604633
I have about half of a 12lb bag of brown rice left so I should be good for a while longer. Ground beef sounds like a good idea I think I'll add either that or maybe canned tuna. Spinach is good too and it's pretty cheap bagged right?

My budget is around $60ish and I need to make this last like 2-3 weeks, help me bros

>>38604729
If you are that broke, you should stop worrying about fruit, veg, or anything canned. Get your broke ass up to the store and do some math.

Rice and Dry beans will get you by and might be your only option for 3 weeks at $60.

Boneless skinless chicken breast and 90/10 beef is dirt cheap where I live, but on your budget it's still too much.

>>38604729
You still dyel? If not you may be able to do G4P ;)

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How do I count calories when my GF does all the cooking and never measures anything?

>>38604729
Spinach can be really hit or miss price wise, I've seen it at like $1 per pound at the farmers market when it's in season up to like $6 per pound at the grocery store out of season. Mustard greens and collard greens are cheaper but kinda require you to cook them because they're so tough

For beans you can get some 2lb bags of different varieties of dried beans, you just have to plan your meal ahead of time because dried beans need to be soaked for a few hours (or overnight) before you cook them.

>>38587124

I read this and thought you meant you started at 190 and lost 154lbs.

>>38604799
Get into helping her out with the cooking, measure stuff as you do.

>>38604679
Ya I have like 1/3rd of a tub left of ON whey and that shit has been a life saver. Is ground turkey generally cheaper than frozen chicken or no?
>>38604776
I actually have a little over $100 budgeted out for groceries until the end of the month I was just being conservative and giving myself some wiggle room, plus I have an interview at the end of the week which I'm pretty confident I'll get so I should be expecting some money to come in in 3-4 weeks.

I'm really not too worried about it desu (kinda)

>>38602218
Iktfb

>>38604077
Myself in lardass mode has beeb gunning for at least 5 miles of walking a day since I started cutting. Gonna switch to jogging once I'm about 40 more pounds lighter.

It helps me feel better for sure, but also boosts my defecit through the roof. Cutting at 1500-1800 and then several miles of walking every single day, my weekly defecit ends up being something like -13,000 calories.

>>38604893
Idk about frozen but at least where I live 3 servings of ground turkey is 4 bucks

>>38604799
>tfw gf cares about fitness as much as I do and makes weekly meal plans for both of us
feels good. Maybe try getting her to care about her own caloric intake and macros?

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This shit right here.

>0g fat
>23g protein
>9g carbs

Go through around three tubs a week.

>>38605061
Whats the serving size and calories on that, friend?

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>>38587026

>calories in < calories out

>>38605097
Every Greek yogurt I've seen has the same serving size, 1us customary cup or 227 grams, around 130-140 cals per serving for the 0% fat kind.

>>38588793
its quite fast, but should work. when youre at your goal keep watching it

>>38605157
Wonderful! Was gonna get cottage cheese just now, but I think I'll enjoy this more
Thanks again

>>38605130
>calories go in, calories go out, you can't explain that!

>>38605184
np! I alternate between cottage cheese and Greek yogurt because having the same one over and over gets boring.

>>38605061
>>38605097
serving size is 8oz; 4 servings per tub; macros for each serving are what i listed

secret tech: blend one serving of yog with one scoop of protein powder and a cup of skim milk (or almond milk if you want to minimize carbohydrates) for a milkshake

cons: it's plain yogurt, so it's going to taste eh

>>38605237
>it's plain yogurt, so it's going to taste eh
Was expecting that, just tired of cottage cheese's texture

>>38599886
bruh, dont recomp. You will probably just fuck it up and waste alot of time. Just do a small cut, like 1-2kg, and take it from there. 500kcal deficit is a little too much , aim for 300 and a slower decline in weight if you want to hang on to dat noob gainz muscle breh.

>>38595859
Don't fucking stop. My dad weighs about as much as you and I wish he would lose weight...

Keep going

>Alarm didn't wake me up
>Had to rush without eating anything
>Could eat for free at my work but don't want to because it would fuck up my cut
>Have an 8 hour shift
>6 hours to go

Give me strength /fit/

>>38605601
Coffee bro

>>38605442
Will do anon.

So what the actual fuck just happened?

I was cutting for 3 weeks, never over 1500kcals.
I did wheigh myself on 4 occasions:
78.9kg at the start, then 77.5kg, then 78.1kg and on friday I hit 79kg...

I was fucking mad, furious..
what was all than cardio and suffering for.
I then had a free weekend and no people around, got back to my old alcohol/pot and binge eating habits because fuck it, if the weight doesnt decrease anyway I might as well enjoy all the shitty food.
3days of going at least 2000kcals over my TDEE per day.

Went on a fast on monday again(PSMF).
Wheighed myself today: 74.5kg

What the actual fuck just happened?!
yeah I no cheat days and diet breaks can help you lose wheight in the long run, but shouldnt I be full of water wheight after doing what I did?

How can you calculate healthy weight loss rate that doesn't hurt muscle build up?

>>38605838
>How can you calculate healthy weight loss rate that doesn't hurt muscle build up?
Im not gonna be popular but "muscle loss" on a cut is mostly a mental attitude, unless of course you already have a ton of muscle.
but for beginners and intermediates I dont think it actually happens, not to the extent that it would matter.

I havent lost muscle mass even doing PSMF 800kcals/day diet...
you obviously need to keep up resistence training and you obviously wont progress on your wheights.

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200lbs to 180 after two months. Did it by running 4x a week and swimming 6x a week.
My 1.5 mile is 10:05, my 500m swim is 8:30
Finally able to bench my bodyweight 3x5

Its going fucking great.

Down to 190lbs as of today. From 205lbs 3 weeks ago (I know lots of that is water/food weight)

Got visible upper abs without flexing.
Only problem is, I'm on holiday next week, so that might stall my progress.

>>38605816
Bodyweight fluctuations are crazy and unpredictable. Don't fret it.

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>>38604547
>tfw just got back
>bought everything in pic+bananas+bag of spinach
>not even $50 total

based Walmart. Ya with all that on top of the rice and whey I already have I should be good to go.

Thanks /fit/

>>38606584
>walmart yogurt

you made the right choice

Been thinking about moving to a 250 calorie per day deficit instead of 500, getting some weird feelings in my chest.

Doing well overall though. Down to 125 lb from 140.

>>38606780

r u a woman?

>>38606804
ya, I'm 5'4 so 140 looked fat and 125 looks "normal"

I want to get to 110 then start gaining a little as I run and lift so I can do races again

>>38606780
Do it.
Same stats as you, same weird feeling.
Ended up giving me problems later.
Lower the deficit, reach your goal slowly but at lesser risk of gaining it all back.

>>38606989
Alright, I'll do it then.

Out of curiosity what kind of macros were you eating at the time? I don't think I'm getting as much protein as the sticky recommends, so maybe that's part of the problem?

Regardless I'll try to up my caloric intake mainly around breakfast time to stop this throughout the rest of the day