Why is it that almost nobody does chinups/pullups at the gym?

I can do at home.

Not to mention rows are better.

>lose fat
>pull-up skyrockets despite getting objectively weaker
>gain muscle mass
>pull-up drops despite getting objectively stronger

fuck bw exercises

>>38518455
Because the normal gym goer can't pull himself up.
Pullups are hard to do.

>>38518473
i dont understand

Same reason no one does deadlifts and squats.

It's "dangerous" and "hard" and it won't "get girls"

Cause half the fucking time people who try them don't even bother to do half the ROM. Then the other half who try realize there's a pull down machine and think it's the same thing.

>>38518498

wait until you're strong and make a cut, you'll get weaker in all your lifts besides pull-ups.

>>38518532

It is the same movement. There's no real reason to do pull-ups instead of lat pulldowns other than for fun, ego, or equipment availability.

Normal people have bars at home so they don't waste time doing them at the gym

>>38518547
gotcha

>>38518485
>Pullups are hard to do.

Really? I do 10 as a warm-up and on my "A" days, I do 4x10 pulls and 3x10 chins.

>>38518473
>He's too weak to do even basic bodyweight exercises

I bet you can't even do a handstand

>>38518504
>It's "dangerous" and "hard" and it won't "get girls"
Hard, maybe at the beginning.

But dangerous, wtf?

>>38518568
They are hard to do [for the average gym goer].
Also, you're probably skinny.

>>38518547
because when you cut you're weaker but also lighter, so it compensates

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> nobody does chinups/pullups at the gym?

The average gym goer/ lifter does not see the virtue in basic calisthenics.

Lifting, for the casual person is about their ego. If you challenge the average gym goer to these techniques, I would not be surprised if they couldn't do more than 5 push ups with bad form.

It also takes a lot longer to progress when doing calisthenics so people tend to just default to lifting barbells.

I also have not been to a gym in over a year, so even if these people could do chin ups why would they do them at the gym when they could do them at home, right?

>>38518498
He's a pussy.

>>38518583
>hurr you don't like them so you can't do them

could do 16 pull-ups, bulked, could barely do 12 despite being much stronger, injured myself and lost weight, suddenly could bust 18+ reps despite being much weaker. It's retarded, not an objective way to measure how strong one is.

I'm new recently did 5kg 2x 5 1x5+ but my right side dominate left side after couple of reps how i can fix this shit?

>>38518697

Try to add 2 or 3 one armed pull-ups with your left (unweighted) for a few weeks. Might balance it out.

>>38518927
actually tryed that several times but cannot do 1 rep with left :(
My shoulder fucking hurt and dont want to try it anymore

>>38519010
Alright, how about a few DB curls, left only? 3 x5tF?

just did 3 reps with 40kg ask me anything

>>38518592
Bc any manlet that slips off the bar would plummet to his death

>>38518504
Hello, Scooby

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>>38519065
tok kek

>>38519065

That happened at my gym, poor little guy screamed all the way down. Blood-curdling 3 seconds, it was.

>>38519065
holy fucking shit I'm dying

>>38518552
I read somewhere that when your entire body moves through space it's beneficial. It was a science mag, not bodyweight bro sci. In terms of building muscle the benefit is probably trivial if not completely unmeasurable.

If you can do more than 10 pulls or chins it's time to start working on one handed ones.

>tfw lightweight babbeh grill
>tfw can't do a single pull/chin up

I desperately want to, so I'm using the assisted pull up machine at gym until I can. A-am I going to make it brahs?

Ive been doing canditos 6 week routine and its pretty structured. it has the option to do lat pulldown or weighted chins/pulls. I cant do up to 12 reps with weights so ive just been sticking to the lat pulldown. I miss pullups but it seems kinda pointless to do both of those exercises and i dont want to fuck with the program too badly.

>>38519242
my gf doesn't work out at all, and she can easily do 2 at 65 kg.

>>38518693
do them weighted. By weighted I mean, for example a 100kg pullup would be a 80kg person and a 20kg Dumbell.
A 105kg pullup would be a 85kg person and a 20kg dumbell.


Easy man.

>>38519280
>fucking up a whole program by adding volume on non-comp lifts.

Yeah, don't be a pussy. Eat and sleep. Overtraining is a meme.

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>>38519056
just did 10 reps with 40kg ask me anything

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Pull ups + Dips are GOAT combo

Rows are mostly a meme, though they have some use

>>38518553
What the fuck does normal mean to you?

>>38519517
Average

Are Latvian pull-overs just a meme?

>>38519501
How much do you weigh, how tall are you and how long are your arms.

>>38519501
thats not a question

>>38519056
Do you only weight 40 kg skelly bro?

>>38518455
weighted pull ups masterrace

>>38519608
No I weigh 90kg

Okay guys I want to try to start doing pullups but I'm really short and all the bars are 2.5-3 feet taller than me. Is it weird if I ask someone to give me a boost up?

>>38519823
Set up a bench press and remove the bench. Pull-up bar is now only a short jump up.

>>38519823
just jump dude

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>>38519823

>>38518663
Nice /fedora/

>>38518504
?

pull ups are up there with bench press as the most popular showoff exercise, and literally the objective most popular one to do in front of girls.

>>38518455
>Why is it that almost nobody does chinups/pullups at the gym?
Because bench/incline is sexier.

Don't worry, though. Most of the press-bros will be injured in good time if they don't balance their pressing with a healthy amount of pulling.

I really want to but can't even do one. Where do I start /fit/?

>>38521572
>Where do I start /fit/?
Band-assisted or machine assisted.
Controlled negatives.
Partials.
Lat pull-down.

>>38519823
g-gril?

>>38521611
Thanks.

>>Lat pull-down.
I currently pull about 60% of my bodyweight with these.
Does this mean I will have to reach 100% in order to do a proper pullup, or is that not necessary?

>>38521661
>Does this mean I will have to reach 100% in order to do a proper pullup
Probably closer to 105-110%. No worries, though. Program it like your primary lifts, if you need to. Get there.

Seems like a good thread to ask. Just got a pullup setup at home, what's a solid routine to follow? Currently I can do about 4-5 pullups.

>>38518455
i do weighted chins at the gym. 6 reps with 25kg.

i usually do pull ups at the outdoor gym on my off days because it's a nice reason to get out in the sun. my max is 18 reps.

i think people just don't do them because they're hard and they take a while to get good at, or, as this guy said >>38518532 they just use the pull down machine instead.

>>38521708
Do one pull up on day one, then two on day two, etc, etc.

You'll be able to do 323 pull-ups by this time next year.

>>38519065
lel

>>38521708
i usually do like 3 sets of a number just below my max. if your max is 5 try just do 3 sets of 4 every day, and then once a week test your max reps.

>>38518504
>squats and diddlies are so dangerous!
>gets neck crushed while benching

>>38518473
This makes no sense
If you re stronger how do you drop pullups?
Pencil arms detected

>>38518455
Because they are overweight and can't do as many as a skinny dude.
They only do bench squat and dead so they can feel superior to any dyel that can do more dips/chins than them

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>>38519823
i seriously hope you are a girl

I do them at home, got an overhead bar. I also do other bodyweight stuff at home, plus any dumbbell work. I like doing things alone when possible.

>>38518473
>>38518693
Personally i disagree with this. I'd like to be as strong as possible relative to my bodyweight, so pull-ups are a good measure of that.
I want to be able to run fast, swim fast, hike long, climb well, etc.
I like outdoorsy shit and that requires being able to throw my weight around with ease.

>>38518504
>pullups not getting girls
nigga what planet did you just come from

>>38519242
Yes. Keep going, it takes most girls a while till the first.
Do negatives also (jump up and grab the bar in the "up" position and lower yourself down as slowly as you can manage).

>>38521708
Do one pull up the first day, then do two pull ups the second day, etc. etc. until the end of the year. Once you're able to do 367 (Counting leap years) consecutive pull ups, start from the beginning using one arm. Do one one armed pull up the oneth day, then the next day do one two armed pull up. Third day, do one two armed pullup and one one armed pull up for a total of three pullups. You'll have to do some arithmetic for this program, so brainlets can find something else. Do this for two years (Splitting 367 into two arms will give you 744 separate push up days)., and ypou'll be strong. To confuse the body and build even more biceps, bend your legs backwards at 90 degrees (Like an angle of a square) and this will disrupt your center of gravity and your arms or arm will have to work harder to pull the rest of your biceps up
This is an excellent way to build muscle, and if you're willing to put the time into it I think you'll be happy with the gains that you experience

>>38522222
checkin dem dere quints

>>38518455
hey people, im starting at home.
how much should i do?
im doing 5 series of 10 chin up and
4 series of 25 push up to work on my arms.
is that okay? im weight 58kg(127lb)

>>38522314
Start throwing weight in a backpack to progress on both. Once you can do multiple sets of 10 pulls/chins it's time to go weighted. Pullups benefit too.

>>38522222
nice quints, don't know what the fuck you're talking about though bro

>>38522398
ok, thanks.
i will keep doing it without any weight for a few weeks because i have to try really hard to get al the series done in a fair time.

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>>38518455
I'm doing SL and switched rows for weighted chins
last session I clipped the weight on and noticed some guy move over to the rowing machine right next to the chin up bar, middle of set I see him in the corner of my eye staring

>>38518568
I do 12x4 with 50lb weights nerd

>>38522222
Quints of best routine

>>38522222
what if i miss a day ?
it's not going to be 367 anymore ;-/

>>38518473
>he doesn't know how to weight his pullups

>>38519065
Manlet reporting, i do pull ups fine, I got jumps.

>>38518455
I do 185 5x5 OHP and do 5 chin-ups between sets, but only because the bar is right there

This is a silly question but I'm new to /fit/ - I recently started grad school and only have time to hit the gym once or twice a week, so most of my exercising has to be body weight stuff.

Will doing push-ups increase my muscle mass? It seems like I'm losing muscle mass since I stopped lifting 4 times a week like I used to.

>>38519516
What do dips do?

I do 2x40 pushups, 2x10 pullups and 8 min (2 each side, front) weighted planks, 30 kettlebell squats every other day. What should i add? My delts look weak.

is it worth doing them if you can only do 3x5?

>>38523320
I suggest you stop being a pussy and go to the gym 4 times a week. Ever heard of a thing called time management? Even the fucking PhD's across the river at MIT are getting shredded m8

>>38518455
Speaking of, when do you lads add weights? I can do three sets -nine, seven, six usually, of bodyweight. Common consensus here seems to be when you can do more than ten. Does that mean ten cumulative or ten reps each set?

>>38523320
Ignore >>38523382

He's probably some dyel projecting on you.

If you can only make it to the gym once or twice a week, try to get as much bang for your buck as you can. Do full body when you go, as heavy as you can with proper form.

On days when you can't go to the gym but still have a little extra time to workout, check on youtube or bodybuilding.com for bodyweight circuits. Get a jumprope as well; they're great conditioning tools. Sweat hard and push yourself.

>>38523388
I did 3x5 all the way to 70 lbs, which was a 115 lb 1rm. Just because part of the resistance is your own body weight doesn't mean you can't treat it like any other compound lift. I would start adding weight now.

>>38518473
You just got fat then

>>38519242
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>>38519551
so like, 3 inches?

>>38522110
Thanks for the advice.
I have a pull up bar at home in a high traffic door frame, I try to do a jump up momentum chin up each time I pass. I might try to do a slow drop down from it when I do this.

>>38519242
Fuck the assisted machine. Do negatives. You'll get stronger way faster. That goes with every lift. Slow eccentric >>>> concentric

I do chinups, pullups, dips, and wide pullups all the time and I see plenty of people doing them.

>>38518455
Fuck I'm stalling on pullups cab do 8 max on a good day
>wide grip tho
Also, I don't do chinups often so I can't tell

>>38519823
Short here. Sometimes I put up a jumping block or something when doing the weighted version.

>>38524352
Thanks, I'll start doing negatives. I just responded to another post suggesting that, too.
Should I keep using the assisted machine as well, mainly to see how I'm progressing?

>>38524432
If you want, sure, but I absolutely guarantee that if you just do sets of negatives (3x10 for example), one day, probably only a few weeks later, you'll be able to jump up and do a normal pullup. Checking your progress won't hurt, but it won't do much, either. Trust you'll get there.

>>38524488
Thanks brah
Once I can do one pull up without momentum I'll be over the moon :3

>>38521543
> balance horizontal pushing with vertical pulling
> you will fuck up your shoulders too

>>38523335
they are the harder version of push ups. there is not much benefit in doing such a big number of reps. the most important thing is time under tension. doing a few slow and controlled reps is better than a lot of quick and bouncy ones.

>>38519010
have you tried doing one-arm pullups where you grab the bar with your left hand AND you grab your left forearm with your right arm?

>>38519501
how come you weigh just 40kg?

>>38522827
> rowing machine

>>38519153
kekd

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>>38519065

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2/3

>>38518455
Part of my "routine" is to do 3x10 pull-ups.

But I struggle pretty hard to do my last set, more often than not 3x10 becomes 2x10+1x8 because my muscles just won't obey me anymore. Is that normal? Why am I not seeing any improvement? (I have over the past few months, at first I could do only 3 pull-ups, weak af tbqh)

>>38525554

for some reason is thinks the 3rd one is a duplicate so I guess fuck you guys

you can find the rest in the Greyskull LP ebook

>>38518552
hahahahahahaha, nice meme friend

I see literally every person in my gym doing pullups or the assisted machine for the old folks

>>38519065
tfw you actually chuckle out loud to something on /fit/

Looking like Scooby is sexier. People in general neglect their back. Including me before I realized I was a retard. Now I neglect chest. I feel much healthier.

>>38518455
because im 200 lbs and it is a pain in the ass

>>38518455
>weigh 150lbs
>can do 3x10 pull ups
>can do 3x10 180lb pull downs
>4 months later
>3x10 pull ups still same
>increase from 180lb to 225lb pull downs for 3x10
>went from 1plate rows to 155lbs rows for 3x5

Yeah OP pull ups are shit, how come im stronger at rows and at the pull down machine yet i still do the same maount of pull ups???

>>38525695
Scooby does pullups

>>38518552
>lat pull-downs are just as beneficial as pull-ups
>never ever use an assisted pull-up machine because the machine limits your movement, you will never make progress
>/fit/

>>38519551
average people dnt go to the gym bro

>>38525698
it will soon be a pain in your shoulder if you don't do enough pulling to counter your pushing development

>>38519242
I'm 5ft 145lbs, don't lift with all my bulk in my bottom half so it feels like pulling up with a sack of potatoes after jumping a foot to reach the damn bar. I found a home bar closer to the ground offering a more comfortable grip really helped. I started doing one pull up every time I went through the designated doorway a until I could do sets of 5. If you've got skinny legs and the bar is closer to you things are exponentially easier. Give a trapeze or aerial hoop class a try (I buy myself like 6 classes a year or every other year because it's expensive) and they will have you pulling yourself up for nearly a solid hour (close to the ground). Also doing L shaped pull ups from the top of a hoop dangling off a chain from the cieling is a good challenge because you use half your fucking energy just trying to keep the apparatus stable.

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>>38525991
You are doing something wrong. Probably it's all in your head and you are not pushing your self to do more.

Me:

1st day I tried pulls/chins 10x3 pulls 10x4 chins

Now (2months later) :

For one month I was doing bodyweight to 100-150, and now I do weighted for a month

10x3 (10kg-22lbs) 10x3 (10kg-22lbs) = 60
*this is after doing 8x9=72 10kg dips*

After that Im able to crank out 70pullups 70chins no problem (bodyweight). Each set no less than 10. I was able to do 20pulls and 20chins one after the other after doing them weighted with 10kg (60times as mentioned above).

>>38525991
pullups work your body completely different than rows. i can do 10 dead hang pullups with +5kg and i can only row like 45kg for 10.
rows work in horizontal plane and pullups are vertical.you're probably doing them wrong.

>>38518498
>>38518473
If you are 80kg and you do 10 pullups, whenever you are 90 you will do 7 as all the mass added wont be muscle on your arms/back.
Basically you get stronger but you weight more.
Best thing is to do them with weights and this wont happen

>>38525991
because you lean back when you do your "pull downs" and they turn into a row.

>>38518552
>It is the same movement.

it's not. you cannot pull the bar through your head but with separate pull-up handles you can pull your head up and through your grip. with pull-downs you are always pulling either in front or behind your head.

>>38519168
>>If you can do more than 10 pulls or chins it's time to start working on one handed ones.

tbqh i'd just add weight. i can't see how you could get a proper range of motion with a one-handed pull up, they're just for showing off imo.

>>38518455
Because I can't reach the bar.
Everyone else can.

I need to grab one of those steps and but it there. It's fucking embarrassing.

>>38525210
yes, i'm sure without that assist i can't move an inch

>>38523335
>My delts look weak
Many, many, many lateral raises and rear delt raises. Shoulders tend to respond better to high volume so go at least 3x10-20, I'd say. Upright rows work too, but you'll be killing your shoulders with them in the long run.

Guy will doing chinups with a straight bar stress my wrists like straight bar curls would?

>>38526323

Generally yes. That's why a lot of chinup bars are slightly angled.

Some people are ok with it though. Depends on exactly what about straight-bar curls is antagonising your wrists.

>>38518455
1. a lot of people can't do a single pullup
2. lat pulldown machine is easier to set your optimal working weight without having weight hanging off of you like an autist

lat pulldown is one of my favorite exercises

it's fun to cheat on it as much as possible and not really dangerous

>>38518455
Because the other 85% can't do, and if they can it's under 5 reps

>>38526368
>tfw finally able to do 12 chinups and 9 pullups
The burn in my biceps always feels amazing.

>>38519823
take a small trampoline to the gym

>>38518455
Chin-ups are my primary back exercise.

I only do rows, deadlifts, curls and power cleans because they help me progressing with my chin-ups desu.

>>38525138
>harder version of push ups
But how do I work my pecs then? I need rock hard man-tits for qts to run their hands over in bed (eventually).

>>38526318
Neat, thx

>tfw doing tucked front lever rows
>everyone at the gym thinks I'm either really strong or weird as shit with the looks I get

The only back exercises I do are weighted pull ups, DB rows, deadlifts, one armed pull up progression, and front lever row progression.
Works for me.

>>38526140
what the fuck are you supposed to do wit hthat rack? its useless

Figured I'd post here: finally got to 3x8 pullups, do I go for more volume or start doing weighted?

>>38529601
volume until you can do 4 x 12

>>38521847
>323 days in a year

>>38529708
Aus fag maybe?

They are closer to the poles so make shorter days and years.

>>38529652
Cheers, I'll work on that.

What's a good pull up bar to buy for home?
Do those ones that you put on in doorways fuck up the frame?

>>38519280
Ive been doing canditos 6 week routine
>stopped reading

i do em and a couple of others at my gym but they always do maybe 4 or 5 pull ups then stop instead of doing 3x8 like your boy, weighted pull ups in september amigos.
btw are chin ups good or should I do something else

>>38527281
chinups work your biceps tho, do pullups if you want to work your back

>>38518455
because rows are superior for overall back development. barbell curls is a Superior biceps builder. And facpulls works the upper back and rear delt muscles better and through a longer range of muscle.

The only muscle it works particularly god is lats. But if you can row 3pl8 free-weight strict there wil be no shortage of lat development

>>38530906
but i do them between sets and you should to because they help decompress the spine

>>38518455
i do them at home..

Quick question: I'm too weak to do consecutive pull ups, so I use a pull up assist machine. Is this alright so that I can eventually get strong enough to leave the machine?

>>38531476

Do pull-up negatives and chin-ups instead

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>>38518504
>It's "dangerous" and "hard" and it won't "get girls"

>>38529508
Look at how the pullup bar is staying on the wall. It's resting on a higher mounted set of those same hooks. You can lower the bar for shit like australian pullups or whatever other shit

>>38518455
I used to do them in the highschool locker room for guys
girls had to pass in front of the doors to get to theirs which was a bit further and one day I was doing on the pipe right next to the door and out of nowhere there were a bunchh of girls from my class mirin

felt alpha

pull-ups are one of my favourite exercises to do along with deadlifts

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>>38524352
Charles poliquin pls go

>>38536167
>implying doing controlled negatives doesn't tear more fiber than a concentric ever could

>>38518504
dude pullups are a fantastic compound for aesthetics.

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>>38518455
In my gym I have noticed nobody does them because almost nobody can do them. I started out doing negatives, gave no fucks about my ego not being able to do more than 1. Now I'm doing sets of 4x8 weightless or 3x5 with 38lbs. Fatties prefer rowing with more weight because it's something they can do, but they can't do more than 2 pull-ups/chin-ups as they are relatively weak in a muscle-fat ratio, and with skinnyfucks it's because they don't like doing heavy work and just do tons of sets with light weight, they have 0 strength. Also neutral grip mustard race.

>>38519065
RREEEEEE

>>38519823
Just jump man

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>>38538245

The pull up bars at my gym are fucking dreadful, the grips make no sense, they're two handles with no bar to connect them in the middle. Also they're only on squat racks and cable machines so you have to take up the equipment to do something that a fucking bar would suffice for.
I still do them 4x a week, but the gym doesn't make it easy.

>>38519823
5'4" bro here, just jump.

>>38518568
Facepalm. Your anecdotal evidence is irrelevant to this thread. Most people need assistance doing pull ups.

>>38519517
Dude, you can get a bar that temporarily hangs from your doorway for like $10 on amazon

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>mfw doing muscle ups at the gym while the fuccbois in snapbacks think their 6" ROM super wide grip pullups are badass.

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>>38519065
>Tfw you see someone using the manlet step to reach the bar