rise of the nu-male

>>38364344
internet porn

>>38364344
My friend looks exactly like this.

>>38364344
Less competition to the top of the food chain.

>>38364366
Then we'd have more grip strength

It's like... it's almost like .. physical strength isnt as important.. woah..

>>38364344
I don't really know why this bothers you so much, brah. That just means less competition for us. If nu-males become the majority, so what? As long as you keep up the lifestyle (and stop being a complete beta) then you'll be at the very top of the average fag. Let's face it, women don't like nu-males anyway.

>>38364366
I doubt it. Maybe too much vidya and veganism, not enough physical activity

>>38364385

With guns and machines it actually isnt.

Really makes you think.

>>38364385
bullshit, you don't get to call yourself a man without physical strength. hence the reason why terms like nu-male exist.

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>>38364344
>Cares what other people think enough to deny himself prostate stimulation

Nu-male, indeed.

>>38364400
Nobody uses that term other than /pol/ tards who are weak and ugly themselves

>>38364420
>t. numale.

>>38364393
vegans aren't even like 1% of the population

>>38364420
I've already been seeing that term on Fb, m8.

>>38364344
>What is the rise in obesity combined with a decline in physically demanding jobs among young men.

You'll notice that the study focused on "grip strength" and compared college students to average dudes from the 1980s. In other words this study shows that college students have smaller forearms than dudes who lay bricks or swing hammers all day, to which i say no duh.

Im more worried about the shady journalism than I am of the apparent "lack of manliness" it seems that no body writes about the obisity epidemic anymore, instead they're looking for wild conspiracy theories like these to explain the associated health problems.

>>38364384
do you put 100 pounds of force on your little pecker m8

>>38364344
What bugs me is that nu-male always have a gf
Wtf why

>>38364440
Epic meme response. I like the 't.' meme, very original, he's surely mad as fuck right now. Deus vult brother, WE ARE REDPILLED MAGA MAGA, I swear this shills and numales are infesting out european website with their cuckery
MAGA MAGA
BTFO
T
F
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>>38364450
> disgusting beta pieces of shit have a gf and you don't

>>38364450
They put pussy on a pedestal, pussy likes being put on a pedestal, it also likes cheating.

>>38364446
But why would they...

>national review

Oh.

>>38364400
put this gun in your mouth and we'll see how much of a man youre pussy ass nigga

>>38364391
This nigga gets it. They're fun to laugh at but they don't bother me. Puts more of a divide between the average weak fag and us.

>>38364446
What do you mean oh-be-sity problem?? Everyone I come across looks normal and healthy to me! No problems anywhere.

>>38364450
They're not bfs
they're more like free money dispensers that will always be there no matter what as a safety blanket while they go and ride the carousel

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>>38364420
>every ''what other boards do you browse'' thread filled with /pol/ocks without fail
>/pol/ is weak

>>38364456
>All that projection
Why are you here? You don't even lift.

>>38364446
It wasn't a comparison between average guy in the 80's. The 80's study pulled mostly from college men.

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>>38364344
That message has made me opposed to feminism. Strap-on sex is like a million times hotter because of the humiliation aspect.
If the chick pounding you in the ass isn't whispering in you ear that she always knew you were a pathetic fag, you should just stop pretending that you could ever pleasure a woman, and next time it's gonna be a real man's cock in your ass, then what is the point?

>>38364570
Look at the wording. College aged men in the 80s vs literal college students now.

>>38364576
this tbqh
still haven't met a female that has dominated me yet
they all talk a big game but still act submissive in bed

>>38364550
MAGA MAGA BROTHER
>>38364548
What? Browsing other boards now makes you strong ?

>>38364458
But he gets fucked in the ass by her, literally. Are you prepared to make that sacrifice?

>>38364420
Sorry to break it to you but nu-male is a normie term now

>>38364344
That actually says more about that sample of college men and college enrolloment in general then it says about actual men in the real world.

Colleges, and academia in general, has become horribly hostile to the average american male and thus enrollment for men who don't fit their criteria of acceptable college students has gone down tremendously. We all know it. Everyone knows it.

That article is useless.

more nu males = more chance at a harem

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>>38364630
haha yeah, I think...

I think I'd be ok with that

>>38364446
Actually wireless signals from phones and wi-fi are basically neutering men.
It's a known thing.

I'm not even going to get into how that one college town is fucked forever because someone decided that birth control in their town water supply was a good idea.

>>38364450
Okay decent post.
>>38364458
>>38364472
>>38364525
>sexual frustration
/rk9/ please leave.

>>38364344
Is having an office job beta/nu-male?

I make good money but my job is 100% non-physically demanding.

What do you lads say to that?

>>38364672
>Actually wireless signals from phones and wi-fi are basically neutering men.
How?

>>38364598
Presumably you wouldn't be on /fit/ in the first place if you had no interest in strength training.

>>38364695
same boat, it's what you do outside of work that makes up for it.

feels pretty good to see your fellow cube-mates wallow in skinny-fatness, while you actually improve your body over the years.

>>38364714
They don't
that dude just listens to Alex Jones too much

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>>38364420
>>38364456
>faggot is fine
>autist is fine
>beta is fine
>nu-male is a problem

What was that Goebbels quote on naming Jews?

>>38364714
It interferes with the creation of testosterone, screws up melatonin production, and drops your semen production into the toilet and makes all of the rest of the swimmers deformed.

This is a real thing.
Go look it up.

>>38364757
Don't do that. Don't be one of those fucking retards who can easily be persuaded to do something stupid by saying it's a conspiracy.
It's not a conspiracy. It's a real thing.

>>38364781
>this tinfoil shit
laughing my ass off this retarded shit

>>38364781
this ma n speaks the trut h. i lost my last testicle to the shit.

>>38364781
>doesn't post citation

>>38364781
[citation needed]

>>38364781
this cellphoe stuff is serious, after I started playing Pokemon Go my right nut turned into a little vagina
I got a dick, one nut, and a miniature vagina now.
I wish I had measured it when it first appeared because I'm pretty sure it's getting bigger and I don't know what to do
I'm definitely not gonna stop playing Pokemon Go, I'm only two-thirds of the way through filling my Pokedex

>>38364344
Don't do that. Don't be one of those fucking retards who can easily be persuaded to do something stupid because somebody said it on YouTube.

See how that works?

>>38364837
>>38364830
>>38364830
>>38364828
>>38364800
>>38364800

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19649291
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24105626
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3921848/

Want me to post the ones about brain cancer being a real thing? Or do you want to continue to get your information on these things from family guy skits?

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>>38364344
Obligatory picture.

>>38364830
>>38364837
Not him, but I found some stuff on google
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4503846/
there's more shit about general impact on health and shit

>>38364913
>>38364923
So what are they saying? That we shouldn't use the Internet?

>>38364917
that is a lot of text

all of the plastics we use leeh phyto estrol. not just bpa

>>38364952
I'm saying wifi signals and cellphone radiation are dangerous as fuck and we should limit our exposure to them as much as possible.

>>38364385
Do you really think grip strength was any more important in 1985?

>>38364967
Bluetooth is cool though, right?

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>>38364958
>>38364967
>>38364913
>plastics
>bpa
>WIFI and cellphones decrease testosterone

How old are you for real?

>>38364672
>I'm not even going to get into how that one college town is fucked forever because someone decided that birth control in their town water supply was a good idea.
please do i am very curious

>>38364450
Because some girls believe that's what they want.
They all eventually cheat or leave when they realize they want a real man.

>>38364977
Blue tooth is actually worse.

>>38364982
I posted scientific proof. I don't understand what you're trying to do here.

>less manual labor jobs
>less grip strength as a result

Truly a national crisis, somebody call the cops

>>38364994
A town was found to have birth control in their water supply.
Everyone in the town had trouble conceiving, and the few boys there had very very late puberties and the girls had early puberty.
And all, I mean ALL of the frogs in that town were hermaphrodites.

>>38364781
>It's not a conspiracy. It's a real thing.
said every conspiracy theorist ever

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>>38364420
go back to rebbit faggot

>>38364982
What's the point of your post?
Are you a retard who is failing badly at shitposting, or a fucking shill for some electronics company?

>>38365045
So there's no evidence it was intentional?

>>38365045
i was hoping for a link or at least the name of the town so i can confirm that you're not just making up shit to scare people

>>38365047
Why so insecure ? Wasn't that term coined by /pol/ ?
>call a /pol/ tard a /pol/tard and he will recoil in pain

>>38365085
>doesn't go back to rebbit until 15 minutes later.

>>38365009
>>38365048
Answer the question.

>>38364472
This is the best post I've read all year. I really wish more people would take posts like these seriously instead of downplaying them with le Fedora or r9k shit. This is wisdom right here.

>>38365068
this

>>38365099
You know you can type reddit normally, right ?

>>38365045
>>38365049
birth control gets into the water supply when women take it and piss out the hormones, which cant be taken out by current sewage treatment methods. then the treated sewage goes into the world, the water cycle moves it around with the hormones and it gets into the drinking water

>>38365148
Oh sorry I'm not used to typing it, don't really go there.

>>38364456
kek

>>38364781
>go look it up
I'm not sayong you're wrong, but this is extremely weak if you're trying to convince others of something. Give direct sources so your opponents can't just take the first wacky thing they find on google and use that to dismiss what you're talking about.

>>38365189
Are you aware that people type 'rebbit' because 'reddit' used to be filtered as spam, right?

jews did this

>>38365085
you're that guy that brings up /pol/ in literally every other fucking thread because he went there once or twice and got his shit pushed in. now you're eternally butthurt so you come here on /fit/ and start whining about /pol/ even when no one else in the thread has made mention of it. fuck you're annoying man

>>38365236
Try posting "Back 2(to) reddit".

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>>38364456

>>38365228
Read the thread fully before you comment.
It saves us all a lot of time.

>>38365236
summer's almost over...

>>38365248
No I'm not, I don't go to /pol/. I used to go to /new/ and early /pol/ but now it's just circlejerking with no real discussion

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>>38364344
pic very related

>>38364385

Except grip strength still correlates significantly and with a large Pearson's R with number of sexual partners. So although grip strength doesn't matter, it's a correlate of things that either do matter, or mediates things that do matter.

>>38364913
Family Guy skits over your faggot ass any day.

>>38364672
And all the poison and estrogen from the chemtrails, am i rite?

>>38364393
>veganism

spotted the fatty

>>38365317
outdated

>>38365323
Well, have fun with your no balls cellphone company shill.

>>38364420
You're retarded. Acceptable normalfag memes are immediately deported to Reddit by newfags. Then dead memes from Reddit get distributed across the rest of the internet until finally they become cringe material on Facebook when your mom posts them.
Saying nu-male is starting to become accepted.

>>38365374
Spotted the butthurt vegan

>>38365312
Been looking for that, thanks

>>38365414
Are you aware that what you just wrote sounds autistic as fuck ?

>>38365414
>MUH SEKRET KLUB

autism

>>38364913
I'm looking over your sources.

In the first one, they exposed sperm to radio-frequency electromagnetic radiation. While it's interesting that the sperm can be damaged by the radiation, given that there's a huge amount of mass in between your little swimmers and the source of the radiation I wouldn't worry too much about it. The suns rays could cook your neurons; you've got a bit of a shield in the form of your skull however.

The second one is a literature review from the looks of the abstract. Knowing what we learned in the first one it's no surprise that EMR can cause issues in rats. The questions I have however are 1) How strong was the EMR? What frequency was it? For how long? and 2) Does this correlate to humans? I have no idea, because this is just an abstract.

The third one might be interesting, but again there's so many factors at play (We're not talking about destruction of individual proteins in cells, we're talking about ED which is a much bigger ballgame) that I'd be hesitant to say anything about a sample size of 20. Likewise, the method by which they measured sexual health isn't exactly exact. However, I wouldn't cast judgement just yet.

Overall I'd say there's nothing to really worry about given the information presented. Plenty of things can hurt your cells, your body just has protection from them (Again, the sun would cook your neurons if not for your skull and scalp).

The big question is, does this correlate to causing nu-males? It's a bit of a leap from reducing sperm count and health to being a limp wristed faggot after all.

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>>38365394
Are you seriously advocating not using a cell phone? How old are you?

>>38364917
I'm beta because I use dove

>>38365584
>In the first one, they exposed sperm to radio-frequency electromagnetic radiation. While it's interesting that the sperm can be damaged by the radiation, given that there's a huge amount of mass in between your little swimmers and the source of the radiation I wouldn't worry too much about it. The suns rays could cook your neurons; you've got a bit of a shield in the form of your skull however.
The ozone layer protects us from solar radiation and cosmic radiation.
The mass doesn't matter.
I can't even begin to go into how utterly fucking wrong the shit you're saying is.

We have no natural protection from the radation waves given off from wifi signals and cellphones. And we do see real evidence that it seriously affects our bodies on a molecular level.

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>>38365600
What's even your issue here?

>>38365628
Can you provide evidence that the non-ionizing radio signals can pierce your body? Not all EMR travels right through you after all.

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>>38365631
Back to /pol/ princess, men are talking.

>>38365447
Yes

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I learned about the whole grip strength thing a while back. I'm unsure how I feel about the whole thing.

>On one hand, I'm disappointed af in my peers for growing into such fucking pussies
>On the other, its kind of nice being the most alpha/athletic/biggest guy in the room 99% of the time simply because I put effort into fitness and am somewhat masculine.

Also,
>tfw chicks I have things in common with are almost always dtf, but then proceed to drop me for some sensitive feminist-ally type.

I'm a little confused here, what is meant by grip strength? Your strength when gripping something, curl strength in other words?

I haven't done a barbell curl so how can I know my gripe strength?

>>38365796
they arent fucking those guys though. A few guys i used to smoke weed with in college were super into this feminism bull shit and would always have feminist "gfs" but always ended in the girl cheating on them. they said they got laid but idk if i really believed them, probably more of like 3 quick pumps then it was all over

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>>38365827
I can guarantee you it's not as strong as the gripe I have with you for your spelling mistake

>>38365872
Yes guys like that get cheated on like no tomorrow. I would know because I sleep with their gf's. The last girl I fucked is living with her fat nu-male boyfriend, he pays for her school and housing, food, etc. He tried marrying her but she said she needed time to think lmao, half a year later she's sucking my cock while he still pays for everything. Pretty much every girl I've ever slept with was cheating on her nu-male boyfriend, I almost felt bad for them at first but they deserve it. Hope they all find out one day and become better men desu.

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>>38364917
Why do people keep posting this collection of insane delusional shite?

>>38365872
I am the guy you responded too. I have a story that prty much sums up my experiences

>Be me, like a year ago
>Metal/horrorfag
>Meet qt3.14 into metal/horror/weeb shit
>Take her on a date, get laid
>Tells me she has a bf in another state, but that they have an open relationship
>Proceed to fuck around for three months.
>Tells me we have to stop because she feels bad he can't get laid.
>Find out he is a total pussy (short, fat, ugly to boot,) who only agreed to her suggestion (he agrees to literally everything she says) because he was too much of a pussy to say no.
>Dumbfounded, ask her to leave him for me, as we have far more in common +
>"Do you really want to be with a guy who's just going to agree with everything you say because he know's he'll never get anyone hotter?"
>She looks at the floor, and weakly says "I don't know."

Apart from her, I often get fwb who "don't want a relationship right now," before they stop it to go be with their sensitive nu-male bfs. And they are all super nice guys, don't get me wrong. I have yet to meet one I didn't like. But none of them are men.

>>38365628
>mass does not protect from electromagnetic radiation
Ok then, hold your hand up to the light and see how much it penetrates your body.

>>38364954
I read it all.

Yes, even the stuff about the illuminati.

>>38365872
>>38365929
That sexual frustration though.

unless you actually train with grippers or do manula labor, your "grip" strength will be insanely low even if you deadlift a lot

let me explain

grip strength in that study means the kind of strength you use in CoC grippers. Barbells and dumbells don't train this type of strength because they are easy to grab

manual labor trains this type of strength, probably the 90% of the dad strength comes from this kind of gripper pinching strength

in fact pinching strength is a kind to this, if you go up in your pinching strength your CoC gripper goes up, that's why rock climbers would get really good stats on this type of exam but would suck at grabbing heavy deadlifts

t. someone who sucks at CoC grippers but deadlifts 280kg

>>38365312

That's wrong for me, I liked furry porn because females had those juicy thighs and asses

Once i knew that there are females with juicy thighs known as high test i dropped furry porn in an instant

>>38364913

Two of the studies you cite specifically indicate "extensive" or "excessive" cell phone usage can create "some" oxidative stress. The authors even acknowledge that although results are significant, the effect sizes are minuscule. If you're on the edge of potency, excessive use may push you under the threshold of impotence. That's about it. The other study has an n of 20, and doesn't employ any experimental manipulation.

>>38366091
No. Grip strength is a pretty good measurement of overall upper body strength in general. Almost every upper body exercise I can think of trains grip strength in some way.

>>38365391

Replicated in the past five years, actually. Still correlates just as well.

>>38364781
>implying non-ionizing radiation can do these things

>>38364450
He's an accessory. Like one of those little dogs that goes in the handbag.

>>38365929
women are absolutely merciless with weak men, in general
they want to chase the dude who doesn't love them back as much as they love the dude

>people who work manual labor jobs have greater grip strength than university students
who would have thought?

>>38366081
What did he mean by this?

>>38365600
Are you really so scared that you might sound autistic discussing these things that you'd just rather never bring light to a problem? Christ, keep your insecurities to yourself.

>>38366452
>they want to chase the dude who doesn't love them back as much as they love the dude
I feel bad about this now

>>38364645
>this is what virgins actually believe

>>38366133
You sound like an extremely outlying case to me. How is it possible that you came across furry pron before curvy women?

>>38364420
ugly maybe but I'm not weak buddy

>>38365950
I know this feel. It wouldn't feel so bad if I lost out to men that were better than me in some way. But losing to guys who are considerably weaker (physically and mentally) for no discernible reason fucking sucks.

>>38366221

buy a coc gripper and see how strong you are

>>38366614

I don't know, i was really stupid as a teen

fell in love with a woman, didn't know why

then fell in love with another woman

connected the dots and saw that both had really big hips and ass, just like my furry porn

then i knew my destiny

i was really stupid as a kid desu

So where should I get water? Tap water and bottled water isn't safe.

>>38366081
This

>>38366832
Rainwater familia

>>38364666
>>38364666

Yeah I'm sure that's what his GF looks like. Fucking idiot.

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Best grip strengthener?

>>38367137
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=90Zxy82M3G0

This shit right here. Stack some plates on it and go to town, works really well.

>>38367167
Rather would have something portable

>>38367224
I already do that with my bros. I don't want to break their dicks.
Is that yours, anon?

>>38367236
Do it more. It's about your grip, not their dicks, breh.

Not anymore, it's all yours, anon.

>>38365312
Ty for posting that, freaked me out. Makes sense though, i will go buy some psychology books on porn addiction and how porn changes sexual thinking.

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>>38366730
i don't need to buy a coc gripper, i got your mom right here

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>>38364393
>too much vidya

that's the best thing to do while resting, little bitch ass pussy nigger

>>38367435
That would be eating and sleeping actually. And jesus is that a real female human?

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>>38364717
>implying

>>38364967
the only way you can 'limit exposure' is if you hide in some fall out shelter with led coating
>tips fedora

>>38364419
Seriously though, why the fuck does he even need to let people know?? Just live your life you boner

itt: self-loathing numales

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>>38365312
ugh kinda true for me as I haven't had sex in 14years and I really think I would underperform, so yea, low self esteem, but who gives a shit, not like I want a gf or anything

>>38364344
>grip strength is a measurement of masculinity
Why do they do this?

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>>38367449
so you workout for a few hours then sleep for 20h or so?

and yes Xd

>>38365414
>tfw when "dank memes" and stuff of that ilk are literally being used by sponsored shill posts by random companies
it's all over

>>38365461
Except that's not what that post implies at all you cancerous cunt.

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>>38365414
lmao

>>38364391
This is all fine and good until weight lifting and having muscle mass is outlawed due to being too intimidating

>>38365047
>Latest ftom the decemberists

Fucking got me

>>38364672
Here comes /x/

>>38364384
Nice reddit joke, faggot

>>38364525
Femanon here.
Can confirm this. I will keep mine until I find someone better but since I have a terrible personality and look at best average I doubt I will ever find someone. It's comfy to know you won't end up alone when you are old even if I don't really love him.

I know I am terrible.

>>38365312
Agreed with everything up until the pedo analogy. Found that vicky vids and other shit on kazaa back when i was 9, the thing i was gay about was being able to find girls my own age engaging in sexual encounters. I still think fondly on those vids and shit as an adult but realize now the moral and ethical complications.

Same story with incest. But the thing with that fetish was that i still wanted to stick my dick in girls, i just got lost on why it was wrong if you were blood related to find them attractive. I get the whole inbreeding thing, but if you're just trying to nut in a girls ass, why's it matter?

>>38366647
>No discernible reason
You're not both sides of the coin. You're more masculine, but you may not know how to be sensitive. It's like she was traveling to two extremes to find a sense of middle ground.

>>38364344
>tfw radcliffe square
FUCKING KEKS GET OUT OF MY UNIVERSITY REEEEEEEEE

>>38364344
it's almost like 90% of the workforce isn't doing manual labor or something

>>38364420
> /pol/ tards who are weak

There is a strong correlation between right wing political views and physical strength.

>>38368405
maybe a negative one

>>38368405
There is a strong correlation between voting for trump and riding a motorized carry at Wal-Mart to spend your food stamps.

>>38368467
Fuck you you fucking doody head fite me

>>38368467

>how to tell when someone doesn't lift but browses /fit/ for the memes

>>38364344
Good. Maybe an autist like myself will have a chance.

>>38368405
citation needed

>>38367137
Not portable, but seriously, heavy farmers are great for grp and general core/upper back strength

>>38367531
Reminds me of that recent story about the mom and son falling in love.
>hurrr let's put it all over facebook
This shit better not happen if I ever get with a relative.

>>38368428
>>38368467
>>38368493

http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2013/05/study-mens-biceps-predict-their-political-ideologies/275942/

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>>38364420

t. NuMale

>>38368547
>upper-body strength, or "fighting ability" (as measured by the "circumference of the flexed bicep of the dominant arm")

that is hilarious anon, didnt realize you were joking

now, when asked for a citation, you should give a link to an original study, not to its interpretation by some dumb dyel journalists
i hope you have read the research yourself

anyhow, i did your job for you, so:
http://pss.sagepub.com/content/early/2013/05/13/0956797612466415

it is not in open access, so we cant really read it and see the methodology and exact results, so i am going to dismiss it

it also says that the study was about correlation between willingness to redistribute and bicep size (still lmaoing at it), which is not pointing at this right wing crap you mentioned

please do better next time

>>38364385
physical strength is important
its just grip stregth is a shitty indicator for that
we are talking about a man being able to fight, right?

Maybe it's due to a combination of the loss of labor jobs + not needing to be strong to due normal shit due to technological development

I mean, very few people lifted back in the day and yet on average they were stronger because strength was needed to work and less engrossing entertainment meant you needed to actually do shit to have fun

Tell me, how would you expect people who don't need to do any exercise other than walking to be strong? Seriously

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>>38364672
Hey, guys. Has anyone seen all my tinfoil? I could've sworn I left it with Wireless-anon here just a second ago...

>>38368702
ffs i need to know

>>38364394
>a mag 58 is light
>a jackhammer isnt heavy after a days work

>>38365950
>ask her to leave her for me

You're making a huge mistake getting together with a cheating whore. Use your brain.

>>38368702
roll

>>38368938
him*

>>38368702
leggo

>>38365461
retard

>>38364344
I'm sure this guy has the surname of (((Cohen))).

>>38368693
>>38368403
These

Lol jk it's obviously because of sjw feminist Jews putting estrogen in the water

>>38368702
Give me trips

>>38364445
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgHNtzxO0y8

>>38364394
>guns
Soldiers carry more into combat now than they ever have. Modern CEFO weighs more than a coat of plates and even a light rifle is a lot heavier than a sword.

>>38368702
rolling

>>38364344
Brehs, what's it feel like to be pegged? Or fucked up the arse? Been watching a lot of shemale porn (no homo) lately and haven't been able to shake the thought...

A nu male is someone who doesn't lift? What?

Shit guys, I don't care if you're the most rugged manly man or the prissiest flamer. Just spare everyone the time of throwing down arbitrary lines in the sand so you can fit whatever you think is cooler. If you really were better you wouldn't be posting about it on a kurdish sword sharpening forum. You faggots can't spend 5 minutes without arguing about something unrelated to fitness.

>>38364344
>evolution had a base standards, things that were common for the majority of existence for probably millions of years
>things like:
>walking
>running
>drinking water
>being exposed to sunlight
>eating rare caloric bombs, like fruits
>eventually even throwing spears (explains many of the upper body muscles)

>so the body adapted to these things
>man in his arrogance thinks that he is disconnected from natural laws, from evolution, and that he has a soul and is special

>not walking means that your resting heart rate will be higher, that you will get more chance to get alzheimers, and that you will be less creative along with a few other downsides
>not running once in a while (below 40km) means that you will have a 25% chance of higher fatal heart death things and even more bad things
>not drinking water, instead drinking soda will mean beetus, alzheimers, cancers etc.
>not chucking spears, or at least developing muscles while having high fat, means that your testosterone will be lower

So my point is that there are many things that are having a bad influence on many of our internal variables with the modern age. Its not just testosterone.

Liberals who go for the "low test is good!" meme discard the fact that the modern lifestyle also increases cancer rates, beetus rates, increases depression, suicide etc.

>>38369094
I read laser rifle three times there before it corrected.

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>all this insecurity and concern with appearance

you are worse than women

>>38368606
>Not in open access
>we cant really read it and see the methodology and exact results, so i am going to dismiss it
>Being this much of a smug cunt when you can't use a search engine.
http://www.cep.ucsb.edu/papers/2013Petersen_PsychologicalScience.pdf

>>38364385
WTF? I hate grip strength now

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>>38369258
>concern with appearance
>mfw if I could I would be wearing flipflops everywhere as long as the weather allows and old rugged shorts with old T because they still cover my body and thus need not to be exchanged for new ones
>mfw people would look at me like I'm some fucking hobo or whatnot
Why can't I just walk around in sweatpants and a T without judgemental stares?

>>38369319
When I say appearance I don't mean literally clothes, I mean the obsession of people here with the way others perceive them. It's try-hard as fuck.

>g-guys look at this n-n-nu-male!
>h-haha! we are so alpha, l-look at that faggot!
>(h-how do I become manlier, bros? I-is Jack Donovan a good place to s-start?)

Don't be a paranoid bitch is all it takes.

>>38365312
Great pic, like just look att /b/ like some years ago there where way less trap porn and such.

>>38369346
>I mean the obsession of people here with the way others perceive them
This
>is X manly?
Nigger either you don't have a dad or your dad was a proto nu-male who failed to teach you how to be manly.

>>38364458
I've got a gf. I'm no numale, more old fashioned and national. She's a liberal vegan, the longer we've been together, the more assured I am that it won't last. She needs a husband who's a numale and will listen to everything she says, the typical "hubby".

Yesterday we argued about eggs - she sent me a vegan article why eggs are bad, where studies were cited, often exaggerated conclusions were made in the article. I read the studies she'd sent me that were in the article, read the article, read some more and came to the conclusion that 3-5eggs a week should not significantly or at all affect your health. When I told her this, she got super defensive and angry, visibly upset that she's read more (although her own article proved her wrong) and that she just won't listen to me and that I should just do whatever I want.

But it's my first gf so I don't know if bitches be crazy and this is normal or what.

>>38369381
>more old fashioned and national
Kek

>>38369405
What's there to laugh at.
I'm no /pol/ level retard, if it came out like that.

>>38364400
>hence the reason why

Kill yourself you idiot

>>38369381
You should probably have a talk with her about it (your differences and future prospects), otherwise it will definitly not last

>>38367371

anyone who actually knows anything about psychology can and will tell you that normal use of pornography does rather little to you

the people who develop porn habits which tie to problematic behavior seem to have these problems inherent in them, rather than related to the porn

not to mention the problem with the entire bit about men projecting themselves as women while watching lesbian porn, the theoretical idea written out in that post is about as arbitrary as freud's writings and it's just defended with >hurr durr they silenced it cause it's not politically correct

also, the entire argument in that post (porn and fetishization is doing this) relies on people having no strange fetishes before the rise of internet porn which is basically bullshit but /pol/-tards seem quite attached to the idea that 80 years ago people had some strange sort of purity of mind and so on, while in reality weird shit is just more out in the open now

>>38368702
rrrrrr

>>38368702

>>38369446
Literally the whole post is about porn amplifying and anableing the effects of the "inherent problems" (mostly low-selfasteam) that sexually deviated people have.

>on people having no strange fetishes before the rise of internet porn

no it does not

>>38364385

The point is that average strength is declining, meaning that the population is naturally growing weaker and degenerating, not that people are lifting weights less.

>>38368702
Pffff

>>38369547

>Literally the whole post is about porn amplifying and anableing the effects of the "inherent problems" (mostly low-selfasteam) that sexually deviated people have.

except these 'inherent problems' aren't common and saying that everyone who can suffer from low self-esteem can have their shit fucked up by watching porn is a completely batshit claim

the person who wrote that talks about a general emasculation of society via pornography when there's not even any real proof of pornography amplifying anything in the average person

there's only really a few people with serious inherent issues who'll basically end up digging themselves into some very strange porn, but again, this can't be generalized to something as wide as men become more feminine (which pretty clearly is a result of modern values, not porn)

>>38369559

>The point is that average strength is declining, meaning that the population is naturally growing weaker and degenerating,

that's a lot of inferences made from very little

>>38368702
Big benis 3x2 here let's see

>>38364449

Not him, but I always grip that thing HARD with both hands and pump it like a piston. It's all red and sometimes hurting when I'm done but it feels so much better.

>>38368467
*tips fedora

>>38369622
I get your point but I the statement that there is no proof does not hold, the whole subject is very hard to prove and it all and I think that the explanation the post provides seems possible to a point atleast

There is also a correlation between pornuse and men being more effeminate, and I think there are more people with stranger porn habits than you think.

>>38369714

>I get your point but I the statement that there is no proof does not hold, the whole subject is very hard to prove and it all and I think that the explanation the post provides seems possible to a point atleast

well, explaining things in a way that 'makes sense and could be possible but cannot be proven' is literally freud-tier and not scientific at all and i feel like we should hold ourselves to higher standards before pointing out a problem

i mean, it's on the level of the people who go hurr durr gluten is making everyone fat, could be plausible that some accidental contaminant in our diet is affecting our weight right

>There is also a correlation between pornuse and men being more effeminate

correlation is as still only a marker for things appearing together and gives no hint about causality or the direction in which the variables effect each other (if they even do)

I'd wager that there's a confounding variable here wherein more effeminate men get laid less and end up using more porn, rather than porn use making them more effeminate

>and I think there are more people with stranger porn habits than you think.

that just proves my point desu, most if not nearly all people aren't affected negatively by porn

>>38369833
>well, explaining things in a way that 'makes sense and could be possible but cannot be proven' is literally freud-tier and not scientific

This involves most psycology, though you're right that the article is sometimes abit too absolute in its statements

>I'd wager that there's a confounding variable here wherein more effeminate men get laid less and end up using more porn, rather than porn use making them more effeminate

I think it's more that porn removes some incentive for the less manly people to get laid (and man up) and enabeling people fulfilling themselves without actual achevment, which makes the effeminate. My personal opinion is though that most unproductive and passive hobbys are doing this and that maby porn is not the only thing.

>that just proves my point desu, most if not nearly all people aren't affected negatively by porn

my point is that they didn't have these habits when they started out watching porn and that there might be more effects of porn use than we think

It's an adaptation to prevent death grips.

>>38364384
>Then we'd have more grip strength

Playing with captains of crush I've noticed my fap hand, which is my dominant mouse hand, seems to be weaker than the opposite hand.

Not entirely sure why this would be the case. Possible reasons:
*Carrying shopping bags more with the other hand.
*Open hand position on mouse saps crushing strength.
*Pain sensations in opposite hand are less immediate and don't tell my brain to puss out.

>>38364450
>Wtf why

Nu-male is constantly in social situations among women. He is playing the numbers game longer.

>>38369353
My dad is passive as effeminate as fuck, almost everything I learned about masculinity I had to teach myself

>>38364450

STEVE gets fucked in the ASS by his GIRLFRIEND while YOU lift WEIGHTS

>>38370056

>This involves most psycology

gotta disagree senpai, most things that are claimed as anything but theory are quite intricately investigated in the best way possible and while often not absolute (there's quite a bit of bias even in science, given that researchers get kicked out if they do not produce results), there's generally nothing entirely pulled out the ass in the same sense that post is

>though you're right that the article is sometimes abit too absolute in its statements

I'd argue that all the parts where he claims that any of it is true and not just a theoretical idea about porn that should perhaps be looked into are definitely too absolute

it's presented as fact when it's just that guys theory about porn. hell, even as a theory it's bad as it isn't based on any prior accepted theory - rather it even brings in something that's been actively rejected by the scientific community

>my point is that they didn't have these habits when they started out watching porn and that there might be more effects of porn use than we think

given that most people started watching porn quite a while ago you can't really separate it from everything else that shapes a person

if you put a 30 year old who's never watched porn in a vacuum and had him watch lesbian porn i do doubt he'd automatically turn into what's described as a "nu-male", though, meaning you can't really blame porn

>>38368938
Technically she didn't cheat. I wouldn't date her at this point, as its obvious she just wants a guy who will worship her for her looks alone, rather than someone who will actually challenge her.

That being said, she suggested an open relationship and he agreed. She's the one who ended it because she could tell he wasn't actually ok with it. And she refused to leave him/continue it, despite my best efforts.

>>38369231
>not dying to hungry tigers
>not dying to various diseases
>not being illiterate
your conclusion is right, your argument is shitty paleo logic

>>38368702
69 please

>>38370179
The whole subject hasn't been studied that much, and I thing that stating that his whole agument is rejected by the scientific community is misleading and false in the same way as stating that his post is misleading.

>given that most people started watching porn quite a while ago you can't really separate it from everything else that shapes a person

Doesn't this argue for the my point that, porn shapes the person in the same way as bullying or other enviromental effects.

>if you put a 30 year old who's never watched porn in a vacuum and had him watch lesbian porn i do doubt he'd automatically turn into what's described as a "nu-male", though, meaning you can't really blame porn

What desu has that to do with the effects of extensive porn use?

>>38369231

eh, don't forget the bit where people died before turning 40

pretty sure cavemen would've gotten cancer quite a lot too if they weren't fucking dead before reaching an age where the chance of developing cancer is high enough to be notable

i mean, how many smokers even get lung cancer before middle age?

>>38365936
if you actually had relationships with other people, you'd realize how accurate these "collections" are.

>>38365461
ingrate

>>38369622
but surely you agree that pornographic excess itself contributes to the debasement of traditional values?

>>38364344
who gives a shit about grip strength

seriously you need to spend time away from /fit/, and probably 4chan

there's nothing wrong with people who and how they want and it is literally just dumb af to expect people to be a certain way or judge them for not being that way just because of their chromosomes

>>38365950
>But none of them are men.
their chromosomes don't magically change because they aren't dominant and omg so manly

>>38370313

>and I thing that stating that his whole agument is rejected by the scientific community is misleading and false in the same way as stating that his post is misleading.

well, he did explicitly write about the scientific community rejecting something that he included

further, the science is pretty clear on stuff like nofap being completely useless and cherrypicked, which is fairly closely tied to the entire idea about pornography

irregardless, as i've found nothing actually linking pornography use as the cause of disorder rather than a correlate of disorder then it's simply not a valid position to assume it isn't

>Doesn't this argue for the my point that, porn shapes the person in the same way as bullying or other enviromental effects.

since we can't really make any reliable distinction about how much or if it even has an effect, i'd say that it doesn't

>What desu has that to do with the effects of extensive porn use?

everything - it's literally how proper scientific studies are conducted - isolating the independent variable and the dependent variable(s) to actually measure their relationship

if we want to be able to say that porn usage (the independent variable) has an effect on femininity in males (the dependent variable) then we need to isolate it so there's nothing else making the person feminine

this obviously wouldn't be done on a person in a permanent vacuum, one would rather either compare groups separated on use of pornography and so on in the long term or conduct exposure to pornography in isolation in the short term and measure changes/differences via measurement tools such as indexes for feelings, hormones, pulse or with brain scans

>>38364449
just because your pecker is a pussy doesn't mean mine is

>>38370159
kek

>>38370576
I've never seen any science stating that nofap doesn't work.
Nor have I seen any science that states that porn is 100% harmless.

>>38370552
You know what I meant.

Sure, there is no reason to be strong and masculine and all that shit in this day and age.

That being said, the guys in question

>Complain about even the slightest inconvenience like its the worst shit ever
>Base their beliefs on whatever happens to be trendy at the time (ex. "white/male guilt")
>Are unathletic to the extreme (any physical activity gets them winded, can't even lift enough to be useful in a move, etc.)
>Stay firmly rooted in their comfort zone (for example, refuse to dance should the occasion come up)

And once again, I actually get along with these guys when I hang out with them. They are occasionally fun to play vidya/watch movies/party with. But not having any sort of backbone and lacking any ability to flight/fight should shit happen are basic requirements for being a man in my book.

>>38370629
i get you, and some of those things are 100% not good attitudes/characteristics. i just think we need to give up on this bullshit concept of gender being distinct from sex and allow people to be who they want without making irrational references to their sex. nobody gives a shit when a girl doesn't like dancing or is unathletic, but it's suddenly embarrassing and unmanly when it's a dude. and what's the difference? literally shit all except an arbitrary collection of physical characteristics. its nonsense

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>>38370603

>I've never seen any science stating that nofap doesn't work.
>Nor have I seen any science that states that porn is 100% harmless.

that's not how the burden of proof in science works m8

what you're saying has the same sort of thinking as

>prove there's no god

it's not a rational or reasonable way of thinking

if one claims an effect, then one needs to provide evidence of it
if one claims said effect isn't there, the one needs only disprove the evidence for it to a reasonable extent

lack of evidence for x = x is assumed to not exist until it is proven

saying that you actively have to disprove things entirely (which practically isn't possible because of semantics such as 'did you test everyone in the world with nofap?') just because someone claimed them is a fallacy m8

>>38370629
>>38370677
i gtg but also before someone calls me out for referring to sex characteristics as arbitrary, obvious the physical characteristics are objectively there. whats arbitrary is choosing which characteristics to use to classify the binary. i'm probably not explaining it well but there's a good discussion of the concept in a paper published in the journal Ethics and the Environment, it's called 'public toilets: sex segregation revisited' by Christine Overall.

The main problem of everything is death. And what that implies to humans and their perception of reality.

A child grows up with no measure of standards. He takes everything he sees from his environment, and makes the standards based on that.

He does not know what happened a 100 years ago, how people lived then. Because he wasnt alive back then to record it in his temporary meaty processing unit.

and thus he thinks that by measure of just him existing, everything is good. Everything is derived from this shaky belief that "I exist now = ultimate good" Which is some form of shitty low IQ solipsism.

The problem however is that reality changes tremendously. Thus children, with their solipsism always change to be the current trend reflections.

It is only through history, through the collection of old data, old facts and other peeks into previous history, before your meaty brain arose. One could get some insight as to how the real good may be found.

If you compare yourself right now to the previous generations, you go from 70% obesity/overweightness to nearly zero %. And then things just start to pile on and on.

Then you realize that industrialization and the plunge into this insane free for all on chemicals and ways to live life, was a mistake of the foolish.

That there may actually be more value in the past, than in the present. But the solipsism urge to call yourself good, this being borne and being alive right fallacy is strong.

>>38370576
>further, the science is pretty clear on stuff like nofap being completely useless and cherrypicked, which is fairly closely tied to the entire idea about pornography

the classic noPorn != noFap

>irregardless, as i've found nothing actually linking pornography use as the cause of disorder rather than a correlate of disorder then it's simply not a valid position to assume it isn't

The post is about his theory linking pornography to disorders. And as previously stated the article is somewhat absolute and assumptions shouldn't be made but that doesn't men that the point is false

>since we can't really make any reliable distinction about how much or if it even has an effect, i'd say that it doesn't

well that goes with almost anything in that mater. We can only make any reliable distinctions about effects in pshycology by observing correlations, crimerate and fatherless childhood for example, or porn and feminity

>everything -......

my point was that se the effects of porn on a 30yo doesn't prove us anyting

>>38370739
>i've never seen scientific tests

>>38370739
>that's not how the burden of proof in science works m8

I don't think you know what the fuck you're talking about and firmly believe that you're just typing stupid bullshit.

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>>38370843

>well that goes with almost anything in that mater.

there's plenty of factors which have been identified for personality development and their percentage of the explained variance of a given trait

granted, you can never pick something such as personality apart entirely in a satisfactory manner, but still

>We can only make any reliable distinctions about effects in pshycology by observing correlations, crimerate and fatherless childhood for example, or porn and feminity

quite a lot of the science conducted isn't about correlation, rather it is conducted in the sense of a true experiment

a lot of the large-scale stuff with correlation even borders on sociology, even if there's a theoretical background with a basis in psychology

>>38370856
>>38370867

https://scienceornot.net/2012/12/04/the-reversed-responsibility-response-switching-the-burden-of-proof/

get memed

>>38370945
You're still misunderstanding

>come to laugh at numale pics
>thread is r9K vs pol armchair intellectual debate

The only thing worse than numale is 4Chan debater Kys faggots gotta go take a shit and pound my blonde gfs pussy later homos

>>38368702
ok

>>38364420
t. Nu-Male

>>38364456
t. numale

>>38364458
I have three gfs

>>38371041
>>38371058
I'm starting to belive /pol/ posters are mostly bots, no way people are this hiveminded and stupid

I have a degree in mathematics but i do labor work with retarded mexicans so i dont have a bitch made profession to tell people when work comes up

>>38364344
>That pic
>Implying you need to be a feminist to enjoy being pegged

>>38364344
>In other words, the average college male had no more hand strength than a 30-year-old mom.
Did they account for all the pajeet and jacki chan international students?

>>38368702
ROLL

>>38368702
*sighs*

>>38364472
surprised this post hasn't gotten more attention. Women who date nu-males are more likely to cheat

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>>38365312
>/pol/ will uncritically accept this terrible meme science because they are desperate for someone to tell them what to think and how to live

really makes you wonder who the real betas are

>>38368702
rolling

>>38364591

Whatever the wording of a third hand article the study is comparing results from a different one performed in the 80s to their own results.

>>38368702
Who cares? It jsut makes it easier for me in college, since no girl wants to fuck these guys, just settle down when they realise they wont be beautiful forever and they've sucked enough cock to satisfy thier hunger.

>>38370130
It being your dominant mouse hand means you have slowly adapted to using it for fine motor skills rather than brute force. That's the same reason why the hand people write with ends up being weaker, but more accurately controlled.

>>38364781
Blue light coming from phone screens is what interferes with melatonin production, not phone signals. People need to stop using their phones in bed.

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>>38365312
About half of /fit/ likes traps...

>>38370810
Noah Harari goes into great detail about this in Sapiens. That every major revolution (cognitive, agricultural, scientific) brings about a lot of suffering for humankind. Progress is a trap.

>>38368702
Im in

>>38368702
what exactly am i rolling for?

>>38369381
When you do break up with her, assuming she doesn't cuck you, be sure to fuck her in the mouth one last time before giving her the good (for you) news.

>>38369381
eggspert here, to further the arguments against her, use these things

http://examine.com/nutrition/will-eating-eggs-increase-my-cholesterol

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3292202/

>hyper-sensitives

is the key word towards eggs. Simply put, some people are extremely susceptible for cholesterol problems. Also those people who dont exercise enough (weight lifting isnt good enough, you also need medium to heavy exercise)

If you want more ammo against her, I still have a little bit more.

Niggers ain't people.

>>38364472
Based as fuck.

>>38368702
Roll

>>38368101
I'll work out in secret and complain that muh genetics are making me this way.

>>38367512
Why would you coat your bunker in energy saving lights?

Decline of physical labor. Back in early to mid 1900's like 80 to 90% of the population where involved in farming of some sorts.

Also you are trying so fucking hard to create this nu-male meme. Its quite obvious. But you cant force memes bro

So? Let the average male go to shit. Makes it that much more easy for me. It's like you guys want stiffer competition.

>>38372919
>between 1985 and 2016

way to read, anon

>>38372947
Some people care about the future of their country.

>>38372947
Do you realize that in turn the average female will also slip? It will most likely mean the same level of competition.

>>38372986
Surround yourself with people you care to be around, and if it isn't this numale phemonema, then don't surround yourself with numales. The country is going to shit for 100 different reasons. Just live your life man.
>>38373008
Did you ever want an average female? If an average male, this numale character, fits with the average "lowered" female, then that's fine. You are above average, and this isn't a problem for exceptional people. Let the normal people worry about normal problems.

>>38372717
Youll end up gettong swatted in the act bruh

>>38372969
of course the decline in physical labor didn't stop in 1985. Was that to hard to infer?

>>38369381
What did it say about 21 eggs a week?

>>38365628
Seventy years of nuclear experimentation thinks you're a fucking idiot. Mass is the only thing that matters for ionizing radiation shielding.

>>38365085
I'm gonna fuck your gf

>>38366595
>I feel bad about this now
Are you a grill?

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>>38364420
>found the numale

Shave your cringe-worthy beard, stop dressing like a faggot, and start lifting.

>>38370273
>>38370316
The problem however is that people managed to maximize life span, while also maximizing the reduction of diseases and other bad things.

Last year obesity became so bad that the average life span of the population began to fall again.

We got a brief window into what could have been a boon to us all, and then we quickly fell into decay.

Having high test, low mortality and long lifespan are not always mutually exclusive things to one another.

>>38373689
Nice projection

>>38372986
This.
If most white males turn to pathetic nu Males, which seems to be the case, fucking Abdul and Jamal will fuck this society back to the stone ages

>>38364917
I sometimes wonder if the author ever learned how to ride a bike.

What could make a man so angry about biking and dove men's scented deodorant?

>>38373858
take your stupid nu-male meme and go back to stormfront you fucking retard

>>38374146
Why are you so mad?
It's not an insult, merely an observation

>>38368702
Roll

>>38364672
Take off the Space Blanket chuck

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Without Nu-males women's over inflated ego would get even larger.
>there must always be a nu-king

>>38373737
Just trying to help you improve a little there, cuckboy.