Can you make protein gains being vegan?

>>38270874
You'll need to drink a lot of cum

>>38270874
yea just eat 6k calories a day

It's possible but the volume of food you would have to eat to hit your macros is so high most people would struggle to hit them.

>>38270874
Yes. Gorillas are vegan. But they also eat like 40 lbs of vegetation a day, though.

You can eat nuts and legumes and, um, other things. There are vegan protein powders, too.

Not that plants aren't poison or anything...

https://high-fat-nutrition.blogspot.com/search/label/Fruit%20and%20vegetables%20%281%29%20re%20post

>>38270963
Gorillas aren't human you stupid faggot it's not the same thing
>>38270874
Yes, if you want to eat several pounds of beans, lentils, and legumes every day

>>38270972
I dunno, your moms a gorilla

>>38270874
I was a vegan who was only getting 3,000 calories a day and getting 120 grams of protein a day

>>38271043
Sure you were.

>>38271043
>3k calories
>only 120g protein

I'm on a fucking 1500kcal cut and I get that much protein. You're an embarassment.

>>38271065
Considering the medical establishments say men get an unhealthy amount of protein I'm not really worried, my gains are fine

>>38271043
Then you're a retard

>>38271053
>>38271065
>>38271101
Lmao, did a vegan cuck you or something?

>tfw have cucked 3 meat eaters and you guys will be in denial about it
To be fair, one of them was a heroin addict

>>38270874
Protein isn't the problem. It's fitting in workouts in between the constant fucking preaching you have to do.

Yes, eat lots of the following:
>Spinach
>Brocolli
>Tofu
>Vegan Quorn
>Other meat alternatives (Linda McCartney is good for britbongs)
>Kidney beans
>Asparagus
>Any vegan protein powder
>Lentils
>Tempeh and Seitan if you can get em

Honestly this shit is not hard

>>38271121
>lying on the internet because you're a vegan

>>38271167
>In denial
Sometimes I really love life, just for moments like these. If it makes it any more believable I live in California

>>38270874

You can get all the protein you'd want from a vegan diet, if you plan it in an extremely specific and unappetizing way, but like with all things vegan, you're making things unnecessarily difficult for yourself.

>>38271187
>he lives in california

Nice try liar

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>>38271096
>RDA set at the minimum to avoid pathological protein deficiency
>medical establishment decided anything above that is unhealthy even though science doesn't corroborate it

>>38271216
>extremely specific and unappetizing way
>literally look at any nutrition thread on /fit/
>oats and water
>chicken, brown rice and broccoli
>unflavored protein powder

Since when does taste matter to any /fit/izen

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>>38270888
>late but hey...
/thread
Nice white power trips anon. You are truly a 4chan beast .
All hail

>>38271255
The point is to eat the same thing over and over again so you don't need to constantly be weighing and measuring your food.

Fortunately with vegan bodybuilding, you don't have the choice to do otherwise.

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>>38270874
Plants have cellulose which forms their cell walls, it is indigestable to humans due to our inherior gut fauna and lack of a segmenyed stomach

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>>38270874
Sure. You can make gains eating dog turds. They just won't be good gains.

>tfw eating buckets of gains chilli loaded with Turkey AND veggies and my gains are through your mom's cunt

>>38271032
Yeah but the head game is inhuman if you know what I mean to be quite honest familio.

>>38270874
Yeah but you'll be a huge faggot

>>38270906
this. You'd be eating such calorie and nutrient dense food, but the protein intake would pale in comparison to the carbs and fats. E.g., 100 grams of almonds = 21g protein (576cals), 127 grams black beans = 8g protein (114cals), 124 grams tofu = 10g protein (94cals).
I'd imagine it's gotta be somewhat miserable, but hell, you'd be reaping the benefits of antioxidants, mono/poly fats, fiber, and vitamins.

>>38271246
>protein deficiency
ye cos that exists you fucking wazzock

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have fun with jaundice

>>38270874
Is that Baby Buster?

>>38270874
BEANS AND GRAINS MY BOY
But seriously, I'm vegetarian and eat vegan whilst dieting and can make over 100g protein ez utilizing beans, pasta, rice, and bread as the main part of my diet

LMAO! This board will fight about anything.

>>38272115
And all the fat that comes with those almonds ? No thanks.
I'll stick to quinoa.

>>38270963
Gorillas have flora in their stomachs which break cellulose down into amino acids you idiot.

>>38272168
It's called starvation?

>>38270874
Why would you go vegan tho?
Like give a legit reason to go vegan assides from you being an oversensitive twat like 'muh animal rights', there's free range and biological meat too.

I can get vegetarians cause atleast they still eat cheese and eggs and shit but vegan is just a fad diet for people who used to be vegetarians for the sake of being better then others but then vegetarians became hip so these snowflakes needed something new.

>>38271043
> was
Did you died?

>>38270888
See:
>>38270874
>Can you make protein gains being a massive faggot who drinks cum non-stop?

>>38270972
>gorillas aren't human
>so you can't be a vegan
You don't know a goddamn thing about biology do you. We test drugs on mice. Are mice human? A gorilla's muscles are made of the same shit your muscles are.

>>38271043
You were one of those vegans who only eats fucking french fries weren't you.

>>38275222

And you're just as retarded as the guy you're shitting on. Mice are similar, but do you have any idea how many drugs fail given trials after success in mice or even rhesus monkeys? To imply that because gorillas can get away with their diet humans could too is kys-tier stupidity.

>>38275245
I didn't say "eat exactly the same way as a gorilla does and you'll get hench," I meant that we're made out of the same parts, we can learn things about ourselves from animals, the same rules apply to us.

Regardless, protein is not the thing you're missing with veganism, eat some broccoli or fake meat or that protein pasta or something. Vegans actually do, however, basically have to supplement with B12 because there is simply not enough for us in plant products, however vegetarians don't necessarily have to.

>>38272115
Only morons eat nuts for the protein content. I've no idea where people got the idea that nuts are protein heavy

As for sources of really protein dense food, see >>38271151
Vegan quorn, seitan and vegan protein powder (i use soya) are pretty much entirely protein

>>38274352
>pasta, rice and bread
how many calories do you consume a day?

>>38275279
B12 pills really aren't expensive

>>38271151
seitan is cheap to make also

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>>38274668
>he doesn't activate his almonds

>>38270874
I'm vegan and I ate 170g of protein yesterday, hit 2100kcal and that's just because I ate a pb&j as a snack. Would have been below 1800 otherwise, below even that if I'd skipped bread with lunch.

The answer is to eat lots of tofu, tempeh and saitan* - and drink protein shakes of course. Also vegan "mock meats" - they're delicious, packed with protein and make transitioning to veganism easier.


[*not a complete protein, however]

>>38276135
this guy does good videos on vegan protein:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3KJRtOMTtw

>>38276402
Well what do you know, a vegan that doesn't spend the whole video preaching and actually gives useful information. I didn't think they existed.

>PETA

the ethical veganism movement is fucking retarded.

>lets call people that eat meat 'murderers'
-they say with a shit eating smile whilst dressed in there leather bag and shoes, their office furniture made out of wood (when chopped down you destroy animals habitats) and held together with wood glue.

you can not eat animal products if you so choose, but calling other people derogatory names for there choice is hipictitical as fuck when you still use clothing made from animals, your whole house is made from meterials that when farmed, destroy animal habitats.

the only way to be a proper animal rights/vegan activist is to kill yourself, at least that way you can feed the earth with your plant based rotting body.

anti-veganbaitthread#66666666666666666666666666666

>>38276708
y no greentext tho?

>>38276731
because vegans like green

>>38270888
If you're a vegan you already do that, so it wouldn't be a problem.

>>38276745
wtf wha?

>>38276748
>savage lvl.9000+

>>38270874
I have a buddy who is a vegan. His only source of protein is Casein and whatever he gets from nuts and seeds and shit like beans. He was on a power lifting team at Cal Tech. I guess you can do it.

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>>38275163
Vegetarians are faggots that put themselves through constant mild inconvenience.
Vegans stand up wholly for what they believe in, many times a day.

When was the last time you did something because you were passionate about it?

>>38275163
i have arthritis and going vegan actually helped reduce my constant joint inflammation and has definitely slowed its continued progress. I used to be at the opposite end of the spectrum though, i'd eat 4-5 eggs, few slices of bacon every morning. I feel much better on a vegan diet than I ever did eating meat

(Dried) lentils even have about 25g per 100g for example, so it's entirely possible. Especially if you use shakes as well.

It's just about eating a whole lot of stuff that tastes like nothing.

>>38276801
>casein
pretty sure that's not vegan

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>Veganism is natural bro humans are herbivores
>You can get protein b12, iron and all your needs if you eat 30 kg of veggies a day or have a diet of exotic vegetables and beans from all over the world that would not have been possible to maintain through 99,99999% of human history

>>38277329
I dunno, meat alternatives are pretty tasty
Linda McCartney sausages and vegan quorn chicken pieces come to mind

100g textured vegetable protein
100g lentils
100g brown rice
Sci mx vegan protein shake

literally 117g of protein right there

>>38277329
So is 25g protein from lentis equal to 25protein from meat gains-wise?

>>38277864

I'm a vegan, thought those quorn chicken pieces tasted weird. LM sausages are 10/10 though

>>38277386

Stupid cunt

>>38271167
>>38271187

Nah, they lie in real life to
>I feel sooo much better now!

>>38278020
>vegan
>calling anyone a cunt

Oh the irony

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>>38276748
>>38276759

>le stereotype about vegans that helps me sleep at night

veganism stronk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0P8tPqneHoQ

anti-vegan arguments are fucking weak
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueqDkY3aNAY


stop stabbing animals to death for hamburgers faggot

>>38278109
Vegans are killing plants too (and yes, they can "feel").

>>38277386
>being this missinformed

whole foods plant based diet is the healthiest diet a human can eat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30gEiweaAVQ

>>38277981
No, from what I understand it's not as bioavaliable (meaning you'll probably have to eat a bit more) but more importantly it isn't a complete source of protein (i.e. contain all nine essential amino acids). However you can sprout them or just combine with rice for a complete amino acid profile. But when that's taken care of, then yeah, plant protein is gainz-wise the same. Your body can't tell the source of the chemical, it doesn't magically become more powerful because it came from a once living sentient being; as long as you get all amino acids in you, it's the same for your body.

Also, I ALWAYS sprout all legumes, beans, peas, nuts and seeds and everyone should do this. Cuts down cooking time and makes it more nutritious. Yes, this does mean that I literally activate my almonds, but I can live with that.

>>38278134
>appeal to mushrooms

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQsDWaF1IWE

>>38271121
>cucking a heroin addict
uhh, am I supposed to be impressed here or whats happening

>>38278136
Children die from being fed vegan diets

>>38278134
>ancient excuse
No they can't, they don't have a central nervous system you faggot. Maybe by some vague and broad definition of "feeling" that has a completely different meaning from what the word usually carries. And we're talking about veganism from a health/fitness perspective anyway so feelings don't really matter here.

>>38277966
>what is bioavailability

>>38271246
0.6-0.75 grand per lb of body weight is optimal
more causes oxidisation in the pancreas

:)

>>38278176
Source or gtfo veganfag

>>38278156
>Children die from not being fed properly
Lots of idiots mistreat their kids and feed them crap. Even omnivores. It's an unfair comparison, since all diets can be done both well and terribly. It would be like saying that because the lardasses in Fat Hate threads eat omni-diets are omni-diets are bad; they're clearly not and those people just have a terrible way of doing them.

>>38278174

Dense

Fibre absorbs the macronutrients. Therefore you eat slightly more than your daily intake. Not difficult

>>38278167
Jellyfish doesn't have brains yet it can still think you faggot.

>>38278156
mothers who are B12 and omega-3 deficient put their babies at risk. it is well known in the medical litterature.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5zWPugtzhU

also, babies die all the time
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infant_mortality

>>38278185

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3000102/

:)

My issue with trying to be vegan or increase the amount of vegetables in my diet is how the fuck do you prapre vegetables besides salads and stir frys? Washing them is such a pain but for some reason cooking meat is alot more fun...how do i into vegetable increase?

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>>38278212
>doesn't have brain
>can think
You need to pick one, or find a better definition of the word "think".

>>38278239
Stews are nice. Oven-baked veggies are delicious. There are some goods tips of vegan youtube channels, including one's from bodybuilders. You don't have to be vegan to get some tips here and there.

>>38276135
>300cal pb&j
>no milk
You're not going to make it brah

>>38278239
>not vaping frozen veggies

>meat is alot more fun
the chinks think that dog meat is fun too.

>>38278244
Plant killer.

>>38278281
see this
>>38278153

>>38278276
I heard dog meat tastes really good. I'd like to try it some time

>>38278300
i would respect you more if you do it. at least you won't be a hypocrite. and i would respect you even more if you kill the cow/dog yourself.

>>38277986
true, theyre really dry. theyre the closest to chicken that ive ever had tho
good to mix into other stuff, like tofu

>>38278239

A lot of my veggies are steamed. I just chop up some leafy things and throw them on the steamer attachment of my rice cooker. Frozen veg is even easier since it comes pre-chopped. Add some walnuts and some balsamic vinegar afterwards and you're good to go.

Im cutting on a vegan diet, this is yesterdays food macros.

37g fat
168g carbs
218g protein
1960 kcal

>>38278374
>37 fat
And?

>>38278223
:(

>>38278374
wtf did you eat?

>>38278431
OP was asking if you can get enough protein, the answer is yes quite easily and at low calories.

>>38278446
Frozen fruit
Pea protein powder
Quarn mince and sausages
Stirfry veg
Broccoli
Tin of red kidney beans.

>>38278458
but at what cost?

>>38278446
Also this is for today so far

856 kcal
93g protein
7g fat
83g carbs with 49g of fibre

Pea Protein 50g
Red kidney beans 480g
Green peas 50g
Onion 200g
Frozen broccoli 300g

>>38278480
What do you mean at what cost? Its not particularly difficult, that is my food for the day so far, and all the food is dirt cheap i can afford a weeks food for £20 on a cut.

>>38278512

>>38278527
Jesus christ dude the fucking
>37g fat
>healthy
Pick one

Nah, you have to spend 90% of your time arguing with people on the internet so it's hard to get a workout in.

>>38278617

How much fat do you think you need?

>>38278617
I dont see the problem, 6g from saturated the rest must just be from the quarn.

You need some fat in your diet otherwise you get hormonal issues.

>>38278617
wat

>>38278475
>Quarn mince and sausages
Not vegan bro

>>38278635
Far more than 37g

>>38278475
>Pea protein powder
where buy and what cost?

>>38278635
>>38278642
Aren't going to make it
>>38278652
Gonna make it

>>38270874
The Romans did. Though it wasn't fun eating like a cow.

>>38278677
What percentage of your diet should be fat at that low calories?

>>38278646
Fair enough, im not actually a vegan i dont eat meat but rarely eat dairy. Was trying to say you can get enough protein through a vegan diet, if you look at my other post i have 93g protein without any animal products at all.

>>38278652

the broscientists aren't even trying anymore

>>38278665

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Nutrisport-NS31-1-90-Vegan-Protein/dp/B00SN8T39K/ref=pd_sim_121_1?ie=UTF8&dpID=3117oYNfh6L&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR135%2C160_&psc=1&refRID=XSQ7PN3S4VMSC46AJPKZ

>>38272168
Google kwashiorkar you stupid faggot

>>38278665
not that guy, but soya protein powder from myprotein is cheap af

>>38278722
fair. just thought maybe u didnt know
Quorn do vegan products too so your point is still valid, kinda

>>38270874
>Animals have been eating other animals for millions of years
>When humans do it it's evil

>>38270874
Sure you can, but you'll be the anaemic version of your meat eating self

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>>38278929

>animals have been killing each other for billions of years
>durr "murder is baaaad" look at meeeee DURRRRR

>>38278210
>slightly more

Gonna have to be more than slightly to offset that 40% bioavailability. Hope you enjoy chewing your cud at all hours.

>>38272168
Yes, it does. Its what gives starving African kids that bloated stomach look-lack of protein. This is why vegans /vegetarians also tens to have slightly bloated stomachs

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>>38278778
>sorry, we can't deliver this to your country

>>38278825

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6485050

>>38276694
> hipictitical
>Implying PETA wears fur.
>Being this retarded

>>38279066
Search on good for a similar product, or search the products name you will find something easy enough senpai.

>>38278223
Did you even fucking read this study?

The excessive protein group was 60% of their diet, if you equate that to a person eating 3000 calories, that's roughly 450g of protein per day, I don't know anyone who does that. There's a shit ton wrong with this study and it is not even anything conclusive. Enjoy being dyel as fuck forever eating <120g of protein, thinking you're saving your body when there's probably way more harmful shit you do.

>>38278271
Had soymilk, actually.

>>38278338
Anyone who lifts, vegan or not, should eat like this. Based taste, based micros, easy and quick.

>>38278652
I get about 60-80g of fat per day, and since it's all plant based it's mostly healthy fats and pretty much zero cholesterol.

>>38278929
>basing personal ethics on what animals do
Do you throw feces around when mad and eat the young of your rivals as well?

>>38278223
You didn't even read that, did you?

>>38274918
>break cellulose down into amino acids
Nigga you cannot actually be serious. Do you have ANY idea how far these two compounds are from each other? Cellulolysis creates glucose like compounds that can be used for energy, NOT amino acids, you retard.

>>38272168
http://www.nap.edu/read/10490/chapter/12?term=protein+deficiency#608

As outlined above, protein is the fundamental component necessary for cellular and organ function. Not only must sufficient protein be provided, but also sufficient nonprotein energy (i.e., carbohydrates, fats) must be available so that the carbon skeletons of amino acids are not used to meet energy needs (Duffy et al., 1981). Similarly, unless amino acids are present in the diet in the right balance (see later section, “Protein Quality”), protein utilization will be affected (Duffy et al., 1981). In the world as a whole, protein-energy malnutrition (PEM) is fairly common in both children and adults (Stephenson et al., 2000), and is associated with the deaths of about 6 million children each year (FAO, 2000). In the industrialized world, PEM is seen predominantly in hospitals (Bistrian, 1990; Willard et al., 1980), is associated with disease (Wilson and Pencharz, 1997), and often found in the elderly (Allison, 1995). Hypoalbuminemic malnutrition has been described in hospitalized adults (Bistrian, 1990) and has also been called adult kwashiorkor (Hill, 1992). Clearly, protein deficiency has adverse effects on all organs (Corish and Kennedy, 2000). In infants and young children, it has been shown to have harmful effects on the brain and may have longer-term effects on brain function (Pollitt, 2000). Furthermore, protein deficiency has been shown to have adverse effects on the immune system, resulting in a higher risk of infections (Bistrian, 1990). It also affects gut mucosal function and permeability, which, in turn, affects absorption and makes possible bacterial invasion from the gut, which can result in septicemia (Reynolds et al., 1996). Protein deficiency has also been shown to adversely affect kidney function, where it has adverse effects on both glomerular and tubular function (Benabe and Martinez-Moldonado, 1998).

>>38270874
Technically you can gain muscle, yes. Technically.

Hardmode: No meat
Normalmode: Diet and Exercise
Easymode: Roids

Why make things more difficult for yourself for basically no reason?

Things that you can't get with a vegan diet:

>omega 3s (EPA & DHA)
>B12
>amino acids like creatine, carnitine & taurine

Things that are much harder to get on a vegan diet
>Vitamin A (plant forms are inferior)
>zinc (absorption is inhibited by oxalate and phytate etc.)
>calcium (same problem as above)
>iron (same as above & heme iron is found in meat only)
>Viamin B6 (plant form is inferior)
>protein (plant forms except soy are inferior)

>>38283840
You're also forgetting the soy protein + estrogen thing

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>>38278109
>attempting to prove vegans aren't cum guzzling asshats
>links us to cumguzzling asshats

>>38283932
The isoflavones in soy are proven to bind to human estrogen receptors. Of course vegans will deny this

every vegan i know, and i know fuckin plenty, is an idiot and often lives a wildly unethical life in other regards (eg selling cocaine, using cocaine, smoking driving fuckin you name it whatever) but holds up veganism as a bastion of morality

not to mention they're also mostly shit people

>>38279079
Looks like they're arguing the edema of kwashiorkar is multifactorial and reduced albumin / other serum protein synthesis isn't the only mechanism responsible. Also "protein deficiency" is a "state of the body" and “low protein intake” is a more appropriate term, that kwashiorkar could be better described as a combination of excess non-protein calories with too little protein intake, in other words the percent of total calories coming from protein is too low. But these are just semantical games since reduction of non-protein calories to make intake 'non-excessive' would yield starvation instead. What was the point of posting this?

>>38283975
i read that could actually prevent real estrogen from binding to the receptors, making it irrelevant. or maybe it was that since receptors were bound, your body produced less estrogen (meaning it didnt have to convert testosterone to estrogen, leaving more testosterone). it was pretty convincing. i think being fat is a lot more likely to give you high estro and gyno

>>38283840

Fortified foods can have EPA, DHA, and B12, and are things you could easily argue people on any diet should take supplements for rather than rely on food (poor absorption, environmental contaminants, etc). Creatine, carnitine, and taurine are synthesized by your body, they aren't required in the diet.

>vitamin A (plant forms are inferior)

Beta-carotene isn't inferior, it just works definitely. Our bodies turn it into retinol as it's needed, whereas with pre-formed vitamin A our bodies have no way of regulating it and it can become toxic. Vitamin A is one of the reasons why Harvard doesn't recommend milk for calcium intake anymore, since they say preformed vitamin A can actually harm bones

https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/what-should-you-eat/calcium-and-milk/

Beta-carotene also has the advantage of acting as an anti-oxidant and helping to prevent things like cancer and heart disease.

Iron is another example of how the less easily absorbed form is better, not inferior. Non-heme iron is something our bodies can regulate so we don't get more than we need at any time. Heme iron bypasses our body's regulatory mechanisms, potentially causing too high a build-up of iron, which has been implicated in alzheimer's disease. Heme iron is also the reason why red meat is considered a risk factor for colon cancer; the heme iron is highly reactive and causes oxidative damage in the colon.

You should look into vegan diets, you'll get a better understanding of what you're talking about

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>>38285747
Could you give me advice on some daily vegan staple foods i should be eating?

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>>38285767

Lentils, chickpeas, beans in general, oats, 100% whole wheat products, pumpkin seeds, sweet potatoes, leafy greens, fruits, nuts. If you have a health food store nearby, you can find fancier things. I'm having a bowl of green lentil/quinoa pasta right now. This stuff is the shit.

>>38285843
None of those things are vegan. They're just foods.
Vegan implies an absence of food groups, not an inclusion.
You can eat meat and still eat all those foods.
You can live off candy, transfats and meth and still be vegan.

>>38286715

What the fuck are you on about nigger?

>>38286808
I'm saying fatty fatty beetus can just as well be vegan

>>38275222
this must be bait
Gorilla muscles are not the same than humans.

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>>38271139
Under-fucking-rated

>>38275222
gorillas lack fine motoric skill so thats why they are so much stronger
they also eat insects and have much shorter lifespans

>>38270888
FPBP

>>38277297
it's because your joints weren't being crushed fatass not by simply being vegan

>>38275222
>We test drugs on mice. Are mice human?
>Implying mice are the only animals used in pre-clinical research
>Implying a drug does not need to go through phase I-III trials using humans before it can be be sold as medicine

>>38286867
>>38286715

This is true, because people use words like retards, and say "vegan" when they mean "plant-based". "Plant-based" is the diet, "vegan" is the lifestyle (which includes not using animal products at all, like no leather or make-up tested on animals and so forth). In a plant-based diet, what >>38285843 says would be staple foods. Then again, they would be staple foods even in non-plant based diets if those diets are any good.

>>38270874
No you cNt faggot

>>38285747
>defending inferior sources of nutrition just because a pound of liver a day is toxic

I hope you got a gold medal for those mental gymnastics.

>>38271043
Same here, i did 4 months in winter 3k ca 120g of protons.

But i have to admit that it is boring to eat beans all day.

>>38290525
Hardest part of going vegan is having to learn new recipesin order for the food to taste good. Took me years of semi-vegetarianism and later vegetarianism before I was comfy going full vegan. Just learn to cook vegan stuff, look for vegan recipes online. You can eat vegan good occasionally even if you're omni, and learning how to make lots of good vegan dished should be done before one goes vegan and not after.

>>38284274
Dude this makes me want to go vegan just to make other vegans feel like shit for being worse than me in every possible way.

Without being vegan they think they have the moral high ground so their deficiencies are "covered" for some reason.

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>>38270874
carnivores BTFO

http://www.mensfitness.com/nutrition/what-to-eat/vegan-diet-american-olympic-weightlifter-kendrick-farris

>>38292917
>in b4 "not natty"
>in b4 "made his gainz eating meat"
>in b4 all /fit/ excuses

>>38292179
>Dude this makes me want to go vegan just to make other vegans feel like shit for being worse than me in every possible way.
I want to make sick gainz and make them feel bad about being dyel. I got this idea when I was on an animal rights convention and I was the most buff dude there despite not lifting at all at the time. Like every guy had a pot-belly and narrow shoulders, pube-beard, most where manlets... one guy was kinda fit but skeletonmode.

I also never preach IRL because I'm literally trying to be the opposite of every vegan stereotype ever.

>>38278778
is this stuff good? about to purchase.

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I'm vegan, at 6'1 200 right now and cutting.

My favorite vegan proteins are TrueNutrition 50% pea 50% brown rice, Sunwarrior Chocalate, and True nutrition 100% soy protein isolate choc fudge banana.

I eat lentils, tofu, tempeh, pinto beans, brown rice. I really like my progress so far, 4 years in. I definitely recover a lot faster, skin and hair are god tier like.

>>38293298
>4 years in.
Nigger you look like me 4 weeks in.

t. 6'1 vegan

>>38271043
That's retarded, 3,000 cals even of lentils equals about 234 grabs of protein. My scoop of protein is 27 grams per scoop and 109 cals. So even if you dedicated 1,000 cals to powder alone (which isn't unsual among body builders who rely on a lot of powder) that's 270 grams of protein with 2,000 cals still left to play with.

10 cliff builder bars 2700 cals and 200 grams of protein...

Protein isn't even a big deal being vegan, I actually have more trouble with fat but trouble I mean, like adding some olive oil or coconut oil to something if my macros are short.

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>>38293338
Seeing that I was 220-230 pounds before I went vegan, I feel bretty good. Also I call bullshit, my tris and calves are bigger than most meat eaters in the gym except for steroid users.

Better pic, like I said, I'm cutting.

>>38293413
OK that's a better pic dude, nice progress.

>>38270874
i'm not a vegan but i recently only been eating plant sources... soy milk is high in protein and vitamen d... they go good with english muffins which also contains some protein ...

>>38284274
wow so based on ur weak anecdotal evidence i guess all vegans are immoral drug dealers

>>38293413
wtf is wrong with your chest?

>>38286715
don't pollute people's minds with ur bs

>>38293609
Sucking it in a bit haha, it was for a dating profile and dumb bitches caved into it , I do have big fucking ribs tho. Very wide framed. 6'1 and from good stock. So it's nice seeing carnist manlets.

>>38293612
How is that not true?