Please redpill me on eggs. Are they /fit/ approved or not?

I eat 4 with my oats every morning. I'm still alive but my cholesterol could be through the roof. My insurance kicked in on the 1st of August so I'm getting my blood tests soon and I'll report back.

>>38172152

I eat 3 eggs every day with two slices of toast, eggs are fucking sick bro

>>38172152
I cut out stuffed my face with eggs and meat before I went vegan. My cholesterol still went down because I was losing weight. Talk with your doctor about it.

I eat 4 every day
but without the yellow part
it tastes like nothing but it's part of my diet plan so,...

never forget the yellow part if you want it to taste good

>>38172152
is milk bad if you want to live a long life ?

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EAT EGGS

EAT THE YOLKS

>>38172152
Meme question. Eat all you want.

>>38172872

Best not to eat the yolks

>>38172976
stfu you absolute mongoloid

>>38172976
literally the worst advice one can give about eggs. Like it's literally better to tell someone to lick an egg fresh out of a chicken's butthole.

>>38173013

>triggered

>>38173161

Why?

>>38173172
because there's no reason to not eat the yolk unless you're on a cut and want to curb every calorie possible. The best qualities of an egg are in the yolk.

>supporting the chicken periods industry
good goy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZPulhmNEDs

>>38173248
>listening to a stupid vegan cuck
>posting anything from nutrionfacts.org
>using good goy
the ironing.

>>38173289
you're the cuck here for slurping the cum of the eggboard faggot.

>nutrionfacts.org
this triggers the goy, he don't want his bubbles busted.

>>38172152
>>38172167

Food cholesterol has no effect on blood cholesterol. Eating eggs does not increase the blood cholesterol.

Eat eggs but cook them. Don't eat them raw.
Rocky has been trolling ppl for decades now.

Considering the most important and leading organization on food in America and the rest of the world states on every nutrition list that just ONE egg has SEVENTY (read: %70) of your recommended cholesterol intake due to its high risk of heart disease , I'd definitely go with eating very few instead of listening to random, insignificant studies posted by guys on a Taiwanese wood carving website

>>38173225

Or if you want to avoid developing coronary heart disease

>>38173365
>Food cholesterol has no effect on blood cholesterol.

that's a myth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBtfzd43t8o

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>>38173365

>Food cholesterol has no effect on blood cholesterol. Eating eggs does not increase the blood cholesterol.

Observably false

http://www.ibcmt.com/2009-03-16-EffectsOfDietaryCholesterolOnSerumCholesterol-PaulHopkins.pdf

>>38173390
eggs by themselves have no link to that.

>>38173398
>a vegan telling you eggs are bad
lol, ok.

>>38173225

Or if your on slin and you don't want to consume any fats while its active

Main reason you see jay cutler slamming 12 egg whites post work out

>>38173416

>eggs by themselves have no link to that.


What do you mean?

>NOO it's impossible that someone has a personal preference not to eat the yolk and get just pure protein out of the egg, they're stupid and don't know what they're doing REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>38173416
>a vegan telling
no, peer reviewed studies linked in the description are telling you.

>>38172152
2-4 eggs daily is safe, depending on your body mass and activity even two eggs can cause cholesterol to sky rocket.
Really depends on you Anon.

>>38173438
>someone with a biased opinion only giving you information to support his claim
yeah, I'm not listening to a stupid retard vegan.

>>38173437
>personal preference
>giving evidence based advise
Pick one and kys faggot

>>38173460
EVERY HEALTH ORGANIZATION IN THE WORLD IS AGAINST EATING THEM REGULARLY HOLY SHIT YOU ARE STUPID AND CONVERSELY DOING THE SAME LOGIC THAT YOU IRRATIONALLY BASH ON

>>38173460
>I'm not listening
stay a good goy for the egg industry faggot.

>>38173468
you yolk eaters literally don't use your brains do you

>>38173460

>believe eggs to be unhealthy based on research
>stop eating them
>"now you're biased so I won't listen to you"

>eat eggs because they taste good and are cheap
>say eggs aren't bad in any way despite science showing otherwise
>"I'm totally unbiased, listen to me"

I was eating 5 eggs per day, and had a total cholesterol of 133.

<200 is "normal"

I imagine BF%, and activity level have large impacts on this. I was exercising 6-7 days per week during this test and have <15% BF.

>>38173487
>THEY'RE A HEALTH ORGANIZATION SO THEY MUST KNOW WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT
when it comes to nutrition, they have literally caused more harm than good.

>>38173524
Yeah ok, now I know you're just an idiot

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Don't you faggots get blood work done once in a while or something ? You want to sound healthy but don't even go to the doctor

>>38173524

Let me guess, you buy into the "people are obese because they base their diets on strict food guidelines" bullshit.

>>38173505
consider your sources

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1245349/

> eggs are bad
So is killing yourself, which you should if you are a DYEL FAGGOT who can't eat eggs because of their sickle cell or dairy racism or some shit.

>>38173538
ditto

>>38173546
no, people are obese because they eat like obese people.

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>>38173522
Seriously this is the only correct answer in the entire thread.
There is no such thing as an unhealthy food, it all depends on what you're doing with the food.
If you're active daily, eggs will not negatively effect you unless you are eating an absurd amount of them.
A dude who just sits every day and does nothing at all, probably shouldn't even eat a single egg in his life.

>>38173554

In the video the guy linked, they're all coming from peer-reviewed studies. He also explains why some studies seem favorable to eggs but are misleading. You should give it a watch.

>>38173571
It's ok anon . One day you'll realize when your chest starts hurting and you can't even run a mile without passing out

>>38173567
stop anon, these stupid vegans already proved otherwise. EGGS ARE EVIL, HUMANS HAVE BEEN EATING THEM FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS WITH NO PROBLEMS BUT IN THE PAST THREE DECADES THEY HAVE CAUSED HEART DISEASE DON'T YOU GET IT WHO SAYS SO

>>38173593
I don't like the source but it's still valid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Rnq1NpHdmw

>>38173595
don't have to worry about that, I don't plan on ever going vegan.

>>38173567
This probably cause for concern since I've been eating 7 eggs a day.

>>38173613
I'm not vegan, I'm just health conscious and went to school so I can read and understand when there are multiple peer reviewed studies that suggest high fat/cholesterol/saturated fat is bad for you and are early roots in heart disease

>>38173487
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22037012

"existing epidemiological data have clearly demonstrated that dietary cholesterol is not correlated with increased risk for CHD. Although numerous clinical studies have shown that dietary cholesterol challenges may increase plasma LDL cholesterol in certain individuals, who are more sensitive to dietary cholesterol (about one-quarter of the population), HDL cholesterol also rises resulting in the maintenance of the LDL/HDL cholesterol ratio, a key marker of CHD risk."

>>38173637
>saturated fat
>bad
You need to go back to school again, this was disproven around 2008.

>ITT: shills and pussies

why don't you faggets eat whatever you want as long as no trans fats and keep active lifestyles. Get bloodwork done a few a times a year to evaluate your health and adjust accordingly if need be.

>>38172152

I have literally been eating 6 eggs for breakfast almost every day for 3 years.

I ain't dead yet. Until I suddenly drop dead I will continue to believe that there is no concrete link between dietary cholesterol and blood cholesterol.

>>38173648

Written by Maria Luz-Fernandez, who works for the egg industry.

http://nutritionfacts.org/video/does-cholesterol-size-matter/

>Maria Fernandez has received nearly a half million dollars from the egg industry and writes papers like this.
>She admits eggs can raise LDL, bad cholesterol, but argues that HDL, so-called good cholesterol, also rises maintaining the ratio of bad to good. This is the study she cites to support that assertion. But instead of cherry-picking this one study that she performed with Egg Board money, involving 42 people, if you look at a meta-analysis, if you look at the balance of evidence, the rise in bad with increasing cholesterol intakes is much more than the rise in good. Their meta-analysis of 17 different studies showed that dietary cholesterol increases the ratio of total to HDL-cholesterol ratio, suggesting that the favorable rise in HDL fails to compensate for the adverse rise in total and LDL-cholesterol and, therefore, that increased intake of dietary cholesterol may indeed raise the risk of coronary heart disease. The Egg Board responded by saying the increased heart disease risk associated with eating eggs needs to be put in perspective relative to other risk factors, arguing that it’s worse to be overweight than it is to eat eggs, to which the researchers replied: Be that as it may, it’s easier to cut back on egg intake than it is to permanently lose weight.

>>38173660

I'll let the rest of the medical community know, o wise sage of science

>>38173616
>A small but significant increase in total cholesterol was seen after four weeks in the group eating seven eggs a week compared with that in the group eating two eggs a week, but this was no longer apparent after eight weeks. Previous studies suggesting that dietary cholesterol has a greater effect on the serum cholesterol concentration either have been carried out against a background of a higher fat intake or have contrasted extreme cholesterol intakes.

you're good

>>38173660
Nice link
>>38173648
>one cherry picked vs the many existing studies
I wonder which I'll believe

>>38173706
>the only peer review sources I accept are the ones I agree with

>>38173741
>many existing studies

post them

>>38173567

>"normolipidemic subjects" with an LDL of 129.5
>used fasting cholesterol measurements instead of postprandial
>the substitution the eggs were being compared to was a "piece of medium-fat meat"
>cholesterol fell when the fat ratio of the diet leaned more towards unsaturated
>lowest LDL cholesterol observed in the trial was 117mg/dl after treatment
>authors concluded "that's good enough for us"

>>38173753

I didn't deny the paper, I just posted a rebuttal of its claims

>>38173770
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2125600/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10704618
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9001684

I got more...

>>38173706
>http://nutritionfacts.org
>web site owned by a huge vegan petafag

>>38173365
Here we go. Another intermediate lifter on /fit thinking they're an expert in health and fitness because they made some gains.

/fit/ eats a lot more protein than its "healthy", low carbs, a shit ton of fats, do steroids and drugs like creatine but still fear eggs because of cholesterol
go figure

>>38173884
>drugs like creatine
wtf I hate red meat now

>>38173430
Eggs exclusively have not been shown to raise cholesterol, if I remember correctly. This is contrary to the data on dietary cholesterol from other sources. This is a big reason for the myth that dietary cholesterol doesn't affect blis cholesterol. Because many of the studies used eggs as a easy source of cholesterol. The data now shows that eggs specifically may have some protective factor. So the verdict on eggs is still out. If I remember correctly again.

>>38173879

The guy who runs the website became a vegan for diet and health reasons. He could be considered less biased than someone who eats meat/dairy/eggs.

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>>38173741
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2016/04/25/saturated-fat-finally-vindicated.aspx
>oh fuck a link that provides a shit ton of citations from reliable sources showing that saturated fats from animals did not decrease a persons physical health
>better provide damage control
Let me go ahead and preemptively put the argument out you low test manlet.
Vegetable fats lowered cholesterol, both the good and bad kinds.
Animal fats did not increase the risk of heart disease in persons who lived an active lifestyle.
Saturated fats were proven in the 1970s to have no correlation between heart disease in all, but the most unhealthy of people. Who were already prone to heart disease anyways.

A healthy, active person with a full range of nutrition will not be harmed by saturated fats unless it's all they ingest in abnormal amounts.

Now get your scrawny bitch ass back to Tumblr.

>>38173909
>vegan for diet and health reasons
a vegan diet is impractical and unhealthy

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>>38173903

Eggs do raise cholesterol like other cholesterol sources do.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6142348/

>The data now shows that eggs specifically may have some protective factor.

Yeah, a marketing team and billions of dollars driving their promotion.

>>38173741
>one cherry picked studies

there was a full page of them on google. I just chose one of them.

>>38173933
Fuck off you fat spaz, as if you linking a post nullifies the entire health community and it's combined findings

>>38173970
>nullifies the entire health community and it's combined findings
>entire health community has not come together and made a solid unified claim

>>38173909
>The guy who runs the website became a vegan for diet and health reasons. He could be considered less biased than someone who eats meat/dairy/eggs.
> Director of Public Health and Animal Agriculture at the Humane Society of the United States (HSUS) would be a less biased source on the subject of consuming animal products

Are you fucking nuts? The dreaded egg corps have actually funded and published studies that linked consumption of eggs to health problems, which more recent studies have debunked but this petafaggot will never in a million years promote consumption of animal products.

If you're looking for unbiased information why the fuck would you trust a political activist as your source

>>38173933

>>oh fuck a link that provides a shit ton of citations from reliable sources showing that saturated fats from animals did not decrease a persons physical health

Don't get carried away. Half the references are to internet news articles. The main study it's talking about is an old paper comparing saturated fats to trans-fats, which at the time (late 60s, early 70s) were considered the same as polyunsaturated fats.

>>38173993
>every health and medical organization suggests not to with more than likely being the leading belief
>you want to be the edgy defiant against doctors, health/nutritional professionals

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>>38173952
>1984 Mar 24

>>38174018
are you surprised?

>>38174017
consider your sources.

>>38174008

He's now an ethical vegan as well but that came a long time after his diet change. If he's an animal activist, he's not a very good one. From his book:

>This book is not about vegetarianism, veganism, or any other kind of -ism. There are people who completely eliminate any and all animal products as part of a religious or moral stance and may indeed end up better off as a side benefit. But strictly speaking from a human health standpoint, you would be hard pressed to argue, for example, that the traditional Okinawa diet, which is 96% plant based, is inferior to typical Western, 100 percent vegan diet.

Here's the prologue of his book that explains what made him adopt this sort of diet, which is based on the early work of Nathan Pritiken, and later doctors like Dean Ornish and Caldwell Esselstyn

http://nutritionfactsorg.s3.amazonaws.com/how-not-to-die-preface.pdf?utm_source=NutritionFacts.org&utm_campaign=a5cc779226-Volume+32&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_40f9e497d1-a5cc779226-24386945

>>38174018

What happened on March 24, 1984?

>>38174044
Just saying. If there really was significant evidence that suggests otherwise, the medical and health field would have already been on it and changed their minds. But nope. Still suggests low sat fat, cholesterol, and fat

>>38173289
What's wrong with nutrition facts? He backs up every one of his claims with new studies

>>38174054
>>38174054
http://www.satyamag.com/sept05/greger.html

sounds like a pathological liar

>>38174044
I can't even use a source older than 2006 to submit a research paper in grad school. Science is about the most recent high quality data and compilation of data available. Try this one.
http://mobile.journals.lww.com/co-clinicalnutrition/_layouts/15/oaks.journals.mobile/articleviewer.aspx?year=2006&issue=01000&article=00004#ath

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>>38174108

How do you figure?

>>38174144

>Science is about the most recent high quality data and compilation of data available.

That's not at all how science works. Science is built up. You don't throw out all of your data every couple of yours and start again from scratch. If there are discrepancies between newer and older data, you read them both and try to figure out why. You never just throw away previous research.

>>38174175
you do if it turns out to be false.

>>38174191

Right, but first you would have to show how it's false, not just assume.

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>every fucking egg thread

There are more important risks with eggs than cholesterol:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2579593/

Becareful you guys!

>>38172167
Same but I eat a PB sandwich with mine. Friends warned me I'd probably have a heart attack before 30 eating so many eggs but damn they're good

>>38174269
Underrated post

>>38172152
No more than 2 (whole)eggs per day, less if you're getting cholesterol from another daily food source as well

>>38173539
Underr8ed post

>>38173722
>2 month test
>no realistic "lifetime" test (because most people stay in the same ballpark for their diet until death)
If you couldn't pick out what I'm saying--the data is biased to approve egg consumption

http://www.heartfoundation.org.nz/uploads/Nutrition_evidence_paper_eggs_1.pdf

They’re unlikely to be a problem in moderation and contain various compounds that are beneficial for athletes.

>>38172152
Eggs are based.

Theres no evidence that dietary cholesterol impacts serum. They're full of nutrition, protein, and goodies.

Plus, theyre delicious.

My grandfather ate the same breakfast from the time he got out of the army to the morning he got hit by a drunk driver while out on his daily 5 mile run at the age of 93.

Bacon and sausage, eggs fried in the grease, buttermilk biscuits, country gravy and coffee.


I have pretty much the same breakfast.
4 slices of bacon. 2 sausage patties. Two biscuits. Country gravy. A quarter of each red, green, and yellow peppers, crushed garlic, onion, yellow squash and zucchini sauteed in the grease until fork tender. 8 eggs.

That keeps me tied over until dinner. Most days I have to make myself eat dinner since I'm not hungry.

Cholesterol, and every blood test comes back completely normal. (Save for TSH which every male in my dad's lineage has)

>>38177635
>eats nothing for lunch
>implying you're not RATTLE ME BONES

>>38172453
It's called youque

Cholesterol is literally a meme
Heart diseases come from high fat junk food, not eggs

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>>38172152

Eggs are great, unless your vegan. /thread

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>>38173248

Shit-tier video. I hate the way this smug fuck talks, he sounds like such a douche.

Everything he states is observational, nothing about why eggs would actually cause heart disease. The answer isn't cholesterol, the answer is they don't.

>>38174233
You're right.

>>38177635

>Theres no evidence that dietary cholesterol impacts serum.
>posts this in a thread full of evidence of this occuring

>>38179845

>Everything he states is observational, nothing about why eggs would actually cause heart disease

Except for the feeding experiments he cites that show that adding cholesterol to the diet increases serum cholesterol levels

>>38172152
Cholesterol turns into testosterone. Eat them.

>>38173365
>Food cholesterol has no effect on blood cholesterol. Eating eggs does not increase the blood cholesterol.

Seriously what the fuck, /fit/, is it true or not, my dad told me his doctor told him the same thing, that diet has no effect and he just needs to take a bunch of scary drugs that require him to now drink supplements or he will fucking die

What the fuck

Ok so fit you're telling me my dad is now depending on drugs that are slowly killing him because they only tested cholesterol on fucking eggs and doctors assumed those results were fucking right and they werent?

God dammit fuck doctors

>>38180708
They don't increase it sufficiently in healthy people with non-shit diets and non-shit genetics to do that. The goal for CVD prevention is LDL-C < 100mg/dL if you're low risk. Like worrying about the carbon monoxide in air poisoning you. Though I'm sure with time and effort I could p-hack and cherry pick enough poorly controlled epidemiological garbage to incorrectly deduce that as well.

Balut >>>>>>> egg

>>38172152
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6SVB99mJHA

I usually look up medical facts rather than fitness or healthy lifestyle websites

>>38174082
The studys are retarded.
>alot of theese people eat eggs and are unhealthy
>must only be the eggs

>>38172152
if you're going to not eat the yolks, just buy cartons of egg whites. fuck wasting food

Been eating 5 eggs every morning for two years now, had blood test done two weeks ago my cholesterol is more than fine, in fact it has never been this low.

Haters gonna hate.

>>38185498

>had blood test done two weeks ago my cholesterol is more than fine, in fact it has never been this low.

Cool, what are your numbers?

>>38173365
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3292202/

Eggs do raise cholesterol levels, the total ones. But apparently there exist some confusion as there are some of these so called hypersensitive people who respond too wildly to dietary cholesterol, and also those who dont respond at all.

So its not exactly a pro vegan thing. And you can eat 2 eggs without many consequences, as long as you do exercise that is more than some weight lifting, preferably more than mild cardio as well.

>>38185538
also to add

>find a fracture point on exactly this topic
>try to find answers
>as many as pro science things as there are anti things
>ask /sci/, they also dont know
>some tripfag from /fit/ helped me along

also, some more sources.

http://nutritionfacts.org/video/eggs-and-cholesterol-patently-false-and-misleading-claims/
https://www.drmcdougall.com/misc/2013nl/may/travis.htm
https://examine.com/topics/HDL-C
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/73/3/560.short

This topic is extremely difficult to digest, but the tripfag, lolisaretobebullied or something like that cleared it pretty well to me.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3292202/

explains it best.

So yes, eggs are a cause of cholesterol. Dietary cholesterol is a myth.

For a normal person, one egg would be okay to consume. For a sports person, two eggs would be okay.

I would argue to boot that cholesterol to a certain degree is important, especially because it may be a precursor to testosterone.

So dont listen to the vegetarian faggots and abstain from it completely. But the worries around too much cholesterol are not unfounded either.

its just that they only occur in certain "hypersensitive" individuals.

>>38185522
43 LDL, 52 HDL

>>38185538

And also have the rest of your diet be low in meat and dairy, with an emphasis on plant foods like beans, whole grains, and vegetables.

>>38185609
It's not that difficult really, cholesterol levels are raised by saturated fats and inactivity.

>>38185613
Is that confirmed? Like I said to the tripfag, I am only mediocre in digesting the research, I dont understand much of the methodology and/or phrases.

But from my rough understanding, the most doubt was around the "hypersensitive" people. If you arent one of them, you could probably just eat 4 eggs?

Though to find out if you are one of them you would need a cholesterol meter.

but what do you mean exactly low in meat and diary? What exactly raises the risk that is in meat and diary? The saturated fats?

>>38185609

>I would argue to boot that cholesterol to a certain degree is important, especially because it may be a precursor to testosterone.

That would be a dumb thing to argue though. Sex hormones like testosterone and estrogen are synthesized from the cholesterol in your blood (not directly from the cholesterol you eat), but it's also a rate-limited process. It's not like the more cholesterol you have, the more sex hormones you produce. People with genetically high cholesterol would come out of the womb looking like Ronnie Coleman.

>>38173248
i get my eggs from my someone in my neighborhood

>>38185635
Well, google doesnt offer much in the way of obvious solutions. It may have been bought pro or anti, for its search results.

Plus look at this thread, it still is huge as fuck. This is a genuine area of lack of broad scientific consensus.

Things like dietary fat, the examine.com links that potentially shill eggs as being harmless and more are just proof of that.

Some major authority should really come forward and redesign the guidelines or whatevfer, because shit is confusing.

>>38185644
interesting, but do you have a source for that? Though I am kinda drifting to believe you, to find such a specific piece of evidence...well I wouldnt blame you if you couldnt find it.

But some heralds of the sports world shill eggs, and in turn dietary cholesterol as being important for testosterone.

>>38172167
Ate a typical murrican diet
> Lipid panel: total 210, low HDL
One year, -50 lbs, +900 eggs later
> Lipid panel: total 195, HDL up 10 points

>>38185640

>Is that confirmed?

That's standard diet advice. When there was a specific 300mg/day limit on cholesterol, they would say that someone might be able to eat up to 1 egg a day if the rest of their diet had practically no animal products in it that would contribute more cholesterol. Even without eggs, the guidelines for meat from the USDA today is to not go over 6 ounces a day of (lean) meat, preferably chicken.

>But from my rough understanding, the most doubt was around the "hypersensitive" people. If you arent one of them, you could probably just eat 4 eggs?

The talk of "hypersensitive people" and "hyperresponders" is sketchy to begin with, given the way many industry-funded cholesterol studies are designed.

>>38185673

>interesting, but do you have a source for that?

First link on google, from California State University

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0ahUKEwj_vfSS46rOAhUJwiYKHbTiCXIQFggeMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fweb.calstatela.edu%2Ffaculty%2Fmchen%2F439Lectures%2F439Ensteroids4.ppt&usg=AFQjCNHt5gCg8KMoeQbWXwowOSh9Yz2QTg&sig2=2v0g5JYpR3bk9mTOAgxQog

>All steroid hormones are derived from cholesterol.
>The rate-limiting step in this process is the transport of free cholesterol from the cytoplasm into mitochondria.
>The cholesterol precursor comes from cholesterol synthesized within the cell from acetate, from cholesterol ester stores in intracellular lipid droplets or from uptake of cholesterol-containing low density lipoproteins.

Steroid hormones can be made from circulating LDL, or from cholesterol synthesized within the cell, and not necessarily affected by the quantity. The actual amount of cholesterol you need in your blood for it to perform its functions is very low, much lower than you'd ever be able to get through diet or probably even drugs.

>But some heralds of the sports world shill eggs, and in turn dietary cholesterol as being important for testosterone.

They aren't exactly respected scientists.

>>38185803
what the fuck is that google link you provided?

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>>38173225
The cholesterol in the yolks are a killer.

>>38185818

Goes to a PPT

>>38185803
From what I see it, there are two major camps, the vegetarian shilling camp whois main priority is to be nice to animals. And the egg industry camp which just wants to preserve the way of being.

Both are kinda wrongish. You seem to be drifting too far to the animal hugging though. Little proof in the way to support your opinions on eating at least an ordinary amount of meat being harmful.

>>38172167
Eggs have HDL cholesterol which lowers LDL levels. Eat them in moderation and you'll be fine.

>>38185851
Why not a research journal? To what does this PPT belong to?

>>38172152
I eat at least 10 egg whites a day

Nasty farts but my gains are thru the roof

>>38185891

> the vegetarian shilling camp whois main priority is to be nice to animals.

What about the vegetarian camp that has nothing to do with animals and just want to honestly discuss diet and health without being afraid to say unkind things about particular foods or hurt the feelings of people who are attached to a specific way of eating?

>You seem to be drifting too far to the animal hugging though. Little proof in the way to support your opinions on eating at least an ordinary amount of meat being harmful.

Who in this thread has said anything about animals? And what is an "ordinary" amount of meat supposed to be? We weren't even talking about meat aside from the 6 ounce figure that the non-vegetarian USDA decided was the upper limit.

>>38185946

As I said, it's from California State University, a review of steroid biosynthesis

>>38185891
>http://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/6982/does-eating-meat-increase-testosterone-levels

>ALL STUDIES ARE PAYED FOR BY THE EGG INDUSTRY

vegan fags literally creating the industry boogy man to discard results.

>>38185979
Vegans confirmed for low test beta bitchbois

>>38185973
link to the whole paper then.

>you realize that places like this are at the forefront of the jew GMO shills, who want us all to eat bugs so that the world can sustain 3 billion more niggers
>eating meat = anti nigger

Neat

>>38185979

It's not a made-up boogyman, it's business.

>in 1992, 29% of studies on cholesterol were funded by industry
>by 2013, 92% of studies on cholesterol were funded by industry

>>38178115
am i being trollied?

>>38186128
>2013
>the jews really wanted to destroy the meat industry because the nigger problem is growing larger
>the industry responds by making their legal and scientific research branch bigger.

most likely what happened.

>>38185936
Apolipoproteins get denatured in the stomach and proteolytically digested like every other protein. The cholesterol they contain is released and then solubilized and micellized by bile salts like every other lipid. The micelles contact cholesterol transporters at the brush border membrane facilitating cholesterol uptake by enterocytes like every other cholesterol molecule. The enterocytes esterify the cholesterol and lipidate chylomicrons with it like they always do. The chylomicrons are exocytosed into the lymph, where they drain into the blood via the thoracic duct like always. Please stop being retarded.