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100kg clean pull double, which was my 10th and final set. Followed that with some snatch bar work. I also had light squats earlier.

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tfw can't catch anything for shit

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>>38164993
>>38165583
>>38165715

Good lads, all.

Hey guys, i'm really happy!
In the past ~3 months i've made some pretty good beginner progress
S: 70-94
CJ: 90-115
squat: 140 really grindy and slow- 150 pretty quick and snappy

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I'm interested in learning oly lifts and I'm currently in the middle of running Bill Starr 5x5. 3 days/week. What would be the best way to incorporate oly practice into this routine?

hey lads anyone up for a discord chat? it seems more comfy compared to sticking to /fit/ all the time

>>38168327
There are only bad ways to do that. The only logical choice is to get a coach and do oly lifting workouts along other lifting. There's no reason to program the classic lifts before you have the tech right, its just lots of snatch, c&J, pulls and squats

>>38164969
Beginner here, can afford a gym but no coach. Have some strength from PLing for 1.5 years. Related stats (most recent)
>87 kg BW
>185 kg DL (conventional, overhand hook grip)
>145kg squat (highbar)
>115kg bench (normal ROM, not competition ROM)
>60 kg OHP x 6 reps
>119 kg chinups x 6 reps (87 + 22 kg dumbbell)
>100 kg power clean
>60 kg power snatch (pls no bully)

I believe my power clean and snatch form is good. But I can't seem to explosively pull myself under the bar to make it a clean or snatch. Also, my shoulders and wrists hurt when in the catch position of the snatch while they don't hurt in any other activity, never been injured etc.
What drills should I do? I have thought of:
High hang cleans (to practice the pull under the bar without speed on it)
Weighted hanging leg raises as fast as possible, with bent knees (maybe I have weak abs and hip flexors)
Overhead squat (for balance)
Klokov press (for shoulder stability)

Are these any good? Pls respond

>>38169978
>Klokov press
you mean snatch press

coming from powerlifting will hinder you more than it will help for the first few months since you are more than likely doing it wrong since strong people try to muscle the bar up instead of using momentum which can cause the problem you're having (successful power snatches but shit full snatches)

first off: post a video
secondly: are you flexible enough to sit in the bottom position
thirdly: post a video literally everything is guess work and a waste of time without it

>>38170029
I thought klokov press is btn snatch press?
>momentum
I pull with relaxed arms in both lifts, not with the biceps, if that's what you meant.
>video
Will try to tommorow, cant today. Whenever I ask someone at the gym to record me, they always fuck it up and take a picture instead of a video, and then I am too tired to do it again with the same weight. So I don't have one atm.
>flexibility
Absolutely yes. I swear it's an explosiveness issue

>>38170069
>they always fuck it up and take a picture instead of a video
iktf

as far as your technique being good without a coach, i really doubt it is
coaching yourself, even with all the resources and with being able to film yourself, is a great way to make bad habits

if you can post a video this time tomorrow i can give you my shitty opinion

>>38170029
pls don't listen to this precious snowflake

>>38170087
Any easy resources to make webm from phone video? I have android if that matters.

>>38170109
not that i know of

What are some things that help you squat 1RMs when it comes to feeling strong, stable and not folding over?
Anything I should work on strengthening to make maxes look like a breeze?

I have been working with an AMRAP program for a while and have a theoretical max of 140kg. (70kg BW).

I doubt I could even squat over 110kg without feeling like I'd get crushed or fold over or cut my depth.
I'm not sure what to do really. I rarely squat above 80%.

>>38168598
yeah

>>38170961
you think your max is 140 and you haven't squatted over 110?

>>38170961
You should do some work at higher intensities

>>38171046
Yep I've been squatting with Greg Nuckols 28 programs which is supposed to be reliable. So I can do any given % for many reps but don't have the confidence or ability to do higher % work.

>>38171068
I want to try working up to a max maybe 5 times a week and doing back offs since I've seen that it's supposed to be good for even my level where my estimated strength is 2x bw anyway.
Maybe that would help me become much more comfortable.

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I'm not sure if owg or plg is more interested

i was fairly fatigued when i did that 190x2 so on friday hitting 185 paused in the morning and 195x2 in the evening is more likely than i was thinking

>>38171247
How to go from 160k to 190k? :_:

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>>38171247
you disgust me

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>>38171707
train hard! have a decent program too. i'm 88kg rn btw
>>38171754
:^(

>>38170961
>>38171105
80% of 140 is 112kg. So if you're not even squatting 110 then no your max is nowhere near 140.

You should be doing 112kg for 5x5 with a max of 140

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>>38171783
why cant you just like normal grills

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>>38171869
go away plg

I haven't lifted all week ufufufu

>>38170109
Just file transfer it to PC and use webm for dummies.

>>38171818
Sorry I mean easily. My 80% I use is 110 for 3 sets of 4 and last set being usually 6 reps. It's just that it feels heavy as fuck to me and I'm not sure why so I'm getting more intimidated as the weight creeps up.

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>>38171891
okie

>>38165583
wait he's a real person? i thought he was a meme...

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>>38172142
nevermind!

>>38172191
You should really let blue shoes do your programming

>>38172034
As the weight gets heavier it will feel heavier

Redirected here from another anon.

I've been squatting regularly with no depth problems in chucks for a year and a bit and I decided to try out a heeled shoe for squats.
Fit was fine but when I tried to have a full squat session, the heeled shoe felt awkward to the point where my squat didn't feel (as) strong

I want a stronger squat because powerlifting is my short term goal but I want stronger oly lifts because I'd like to switch over when I weigh more.

Is the new lever change something my body has to eventually adjust to, and give me a strong squat?

I have 23yr finnish nationals in one week and I'm stressing out man. Fear I'm gonna bomb on snatch. Anyways I'll provide videos after. Comp is on saturday

>>38173519

start really light, make big jumps.

>>38173541
Coach is encouraging to make as small jumps as possible and start pretty high. We'll see..

How bad will my gains suffer if I don't go to the gym today? I'm not feeling up for it

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>>38173672
just go

>>38173090
You'll need to adjust to it. Happened to me, took me barely any time to get my squat feeling strong again and even if I stopped oly lifting I'd not squat in flats

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my snatch form is finally looking better and more consistent now lads. remember to extend!

>>38170961
pause squats and slow eccentric squats work for me. also, tempo is slow down and fast up

>>38173519
everything i know about finland comes from the dudesons. those niggas is hilarious

>>38165583
terrible

I would consider stop lifting

>>38175727
lol yeah they are great

>>38165583
you gotta pull faster

>>38165583
I can't wait for this guy to become a beast in 5 years.

Didn't you guys have a bunch of resources for your thread starter?

I wanna put weight on my clean and jerk but I don't know how to program for this kind of stuff. Where can I get a good beginner/intermediate program?

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First time ever clean pulling focusing on tech for like 1 hour and im almost snatching it with a clean grip.

So much for PLs cant be athletic HAHAHAH x----DDD

>>38177940
80kg btw

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Am I still DYEL?

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>>38178006
if natty routine/diet? fuarkin mirin brahhHH! even my waifu is mirin!

>>38177940
you're worse than blueshoes.

>>38177940
thank you snapback gorilla
may i recommend a physio for the incoming hernia?

>>38178006
You got a ways to go, bud

>>38178145
impossible

>>38178161
You must've never lifted in your life

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>>38178110
Reeeeeeeeeeee.

>>38178205
make another thread with your cellulite ridden ass. that was a good laugh

>>38177940
What the fuck are you even doing. Your doing Everything wrong... fuck im triggered

>>38178248

I guess its a CLEAN HIGH PULL, it was supposed to be wahtever blueshoes is doing a few posts up but im too STRONG and POWERFUL, would have to do like 160-170 to do normal clean pulls :))))))))))

>>38178278
Your not even doing it right. Stand up with your legs and dont reverse curl it like some fucking pleb.

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>>38178229
check it :)

>>38178437
i was told to PULL IT UP

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how do u get a gf this kawaii

>>38179273
Fucking wew why can't she lock it out holy kek.

I need to email her and tell her to GET STRONGER FUCKING LEGS.

>>38179453
yeah, if you have that hard of a time standing up cleans, you need to squat more

>>38179453
she almost passed out that's why she dropped it and was walking retarded after

>>38179453

because she nearly went lights out.

it's pretty obvious.

>>38177396
catalyst athletics, check the archive for the op spiel that anon, in his unending quest to prove he's a faggot, forgot

>>38177940
if you want to get better at this:
- ditch the dynamic start, get in position and go from there
- fix your start position
- hit the right positions on the way up
- wait to extend

>>38178006
you got bitch tits like a 12 year old dutch girl get the fuck off with that smirk on your face

>>38177940
Not good senpai. Blueshoes looked better and he used more weight. How embarrassing

>>38181686
holy shit blueshoes trolled the fuck outta this nigga

>>38177940
Wow lad, wtf are you doing

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>>38181518
>>38181705
>>38181836

HELP ME

>>38177940
tip

top

kek

powerlifters doing the oly lifts always give the best laughs

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>>38181947
>>38181947
>>38181947

>>38182161
have you watch any videos on how to clean?

>>38177940
>this is athletic
ahahahhahahaha

reminder to look up when the weightlifting is on for Rio

>>38182253
>implying its not athletic

?????????????????????????

>>38182281
mens start sunday

>>38182474
It isnt

>>38182938
fuck off durkz

>>38181947
Stop trying to show people up. Terrible upright rows to try to embarrass blue shoes (despite him using more weight and you being way bigger) or you trying to out do commies squats despite him squatting over double bw and you're not even doing like 1.5x

Don't be an ass and maybe people will help

>>38182958
You're a fat man moving like half your bodyweight in a retarded manner, tell me is athletic about it

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>>38182972
>being this unaware

I can tell you're not part of the elite.

Stop feeding the trolls and let's talk about Oly lifting...

Looking forward to watching the manlet categories in Rio this weekend. Those impressive asian lads can clean 3 times their own BW

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>>38183052
Om <3

>>38177940
needs work but if you continue you'll be strong

also you lookmanly

>>38183138
Why thanks commisar. Will i BTFO all these weak twink cucks in this thread or have i already?

>>38183150
idk just go powerclean 140

>>38183024
Ok fatty, keep being shit. You lift like norsefat lmao

>>38183207
we have shit tech and outlift you by miles faggot, i bet you do shrugs with 80kg in a power rack

>>38183150
You pulled 80kg bro you ain't even bfto blueshoes yet

Can you even snatch that? Let alone snatch your own bw lol

>>38183218
You don't outlift me tho, you can't even clean 80 let alone snatch it you fat mess

>>38183333
Im literally lifting 80kg up to my neck do you really think i couldnt just catch it there if i wanted to? lmao, im powercleaning 140 in a a couple of weeks jut you wait :)))))

>>38164969
maex out on swatz yesterday, how do i stop goodmorning backsquats?

https://www.instagram.com/p/BIsol2ejg0B/?taken-by=sportgarageimola

>>38183391
gj

idk how you are supposed to but pause squats to just above bottom helped me with it

>>38183359
Well until you do you don't outlift me big guy, remember that.

As for 'pull it so high lol u think I can't catch it' no I don't just look at norsefat he could pull 100kg over his head but he's a big retard too so he can't even rack the weight without falling forwards

>>38183755
stop referencing Norsefat, norsefat is nice, this guy is an asshole

Does norik have the best technique in the USA?

>>38183765
Norse is a nice lad but when it comes to wl he's an idiot. He got given loads of good advice and ignored it all, hence why he can barely c&j his bw despite having a massive amount of strength

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>>38183771
I don't know much. What I do know is that 99% of World and Olympic Champions were strong as fuck. There are no magic ratios to achieve "as long as you have perfect technique." That's complete bullshit and only comes from people who are afraid to push into that dark, lonely hole to see how far they can go. They're afraid of true hard work, don't be "they." Technique is important but strength is more important. If you disagree, you're likely who I'm talking about and you'll likely always be mediocre. I'm not perfect, a great technician, or even that strong but I have my priorities straight and I WILL reach my goals, can you say that?

>>38183917
Evan rutledge please go

>>38183917
Idk wtf ur on about u madman

How am I meant to learn the lifts and get a stronger squat or can't that be done or should I just do less reps?

My coach has me doing reps over and over and I'm so tired by the end of it that my squat suffers massively, it's only like 30kg too and not heavy considering I have a 160kg squat 1rm.

I am also going to try a static start, I can't even snatch 1pl8 but notice that my coach is making me get low to dynamic start, I think this may be a problem for me since I don't feel tight at all. It just feels like I'm getting nowhere even with a coach.

>>38184513
Because you're fucking retarded who thinks he knows more than his coach and doesn't want to fully commit to learning

>>38184567

I have been listening to my coach and committing to learning 3 or 4 times a week for about 4 months and can't even snatch.

Nice troll though

>>38184601
>>38184513
Maybe I should just end myself but I feel like every time I'm with my coach I get worse

>>38184601
>coach

What's his credentials?

>>38184640
You probably feel like you're getting worse because your coach is trying to get to lose all the shit ass form you already instilled in yourself. All of your PRs are most likely with shit technique and therefor doing it correctly vastly lower your weight and ego. Quit being a bitch and lift efficiently like your coach is trying to teach you

>>38184664
I haven't gone over 30kg snatch or 50kg clean. No chance of PBs lol.

>>38184656
I don't for sure but the BWL certificate for coaching. Level 2 maybe?