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>2016 >not swimming daily whats your excuse fit?

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>2016
>not swimming daily

whats your excuse fit?
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>>38124961
Aerobic cardio kils gains

Idk how to swim anaerobically
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the place I know has a olympic pool in my city doesn't have a proper gym with free weights.
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>>38124961
my dad almost drowned me several times when I was a kid
he was laughing and didn't understand that me crying was a sign of not wanting to die

can't swim in pools
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I'm not a faggot
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>>38124961
I'm black
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I'm afraid of drowning
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>>38124961
i'm big boned
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>>38124961
I am swimming daily though, faggot.
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I can keep myself afloat, but have no idea about technique. I know where to find the tools to learn, but I'm too afraid to embaress myself in front of the better swimmers at my uni pool. I just need to figure out how to breathe properly, (ie inhale to the side, exhale underwater) and I think I can figure the rest out, but I'm super afraid of lookib like an idiot. Especially while wearing Jammers and goggles.
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i am poor but don't want aids public pools
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I get so fucking dry
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not really related to OP but can anyone help me?
Whenever I'm in the pool with my friends I fucking panic when they try to wrestle with my in the water,or hold my head down.I'm also really afraid of jumping off the towers and shit.
Is this normal?
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I'm poolet, its too small to actually swim in.
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>>38125051
This.
I can do good breathstroke, but I cant do conventional swimming without looking like a fish out of water.
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>>38125148
I've never even attempted this stroke. I just try freestyle. Is breaststroke easy or like intuitive? Most forms look unnatural to me. I just want to be able to get from one place to the other as fast/efficiently as possible, and I kind of figured that would be freestyle.
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>>38124961
I'm not a massive gains hating faggot

Next question
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>>38125170
Breathstroke is much easier IMO, simple form that you really cant fuck up that much. And you wont look like a flailing fish as all of your limbs are under water.
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>>38125101
>I have inexplicable urge to survive.
>Am I normal?
Pretty normal.

Have you tried to explain to your wrestling-no-homo friends that you actually dislike being wrestled while in water?
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>>38125201
How does swimming kill gains?
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>>38125231
maybe I'm just beyond normal humans,thanks man
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>>38124961
Where the Fuck are you guys getting all of this free time?
I sleep 8 hours a day
I work 8 hours a day
I spend at least an hour on hygiene/meals/taking care of myself
I workout about an hour a day

That leaves me 6 hours M-F for hobbies/work prep/socializing.

Where are you guys finding the time for 2-3 hour gym routines? And what the fuck are you doing with all of these gains?
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>>38125339
Remember, you dont find time, you make time.
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used to swim about 1 year ago. still regret stopping and changing it for gym
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>>38125339
Iktf, dude, I'm in a qimilar situation. I workout 4 times a week. On days I don't I've been swimming. So long as I don't do much else those days, I think I can recover and have a nice cardio day just fine.
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>>38125404
How different does your body look?
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>>38125389
I do make time. 7 hours of time. I guess what I'm saying, is, do you guys just only go to the gym? Just get of work, go to the gym, then go home? There's no way in hell I could workout anymore than I do already, while still maintaining more than one hobby and decent social health.
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>>38125458
I like going to the gym/pool early morning, before work. Like 5:30-6:30 of high intensity workout. Really gets my day started and its nice having a nearly empty gym/pool. Plus I feel productive.
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>>38125339
Because they're either uni students or NEETS that have nothing better to do with all the free time
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I have a t-shirt tan and my body is absolutely covered in stretch marks.

I don't have the confidence at the minute to go shirtless in public for an extended period of time. I used to be part of a swim club and compete when I was in my teens, but now the thought of throwing my shorts on and getting into the pool fills me with anxiety.
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I don't know how to swim so that's why.
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>>38125339

>working out every day

Why not work out on every second day? And swim on the days off? An hour is more than enough.
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Because i swam competitively for several years and my rotators are too easily injured now
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>>38125607
Cardio on off days already. No pool near me.
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I dont live near water or own a pool and my bathtub isnt big enough
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>>38125339
iktf
>work ~60 hours a week
>commute 2 hrs
>5 hrs on hygiene
>workout 10
>sleep 50 hrs
these are all averages mind you but that leaves about 40 hours to myself a week. sounds like a lot but cramming in reading/gf/friends/sports/hobbies it gets overwhelming
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>Not being able, or being to scared to swim
As someone who swam completely for most of my teen years, this has always been really weird and sad to me.
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But I do, anon. I've been swimming competitively since middle school (headed into uni in the fall) and I swim every day. Catch me in Tokyo 4 years from now.
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>>38124961
>whats your excuse fit?
I get terrible rhinitis, lasts ~72 hours after each swimming session. Using noseclip reduces that to ~24 hours, but still it's fucking shitty not being able to breathe at night. So I gave up swimming a few years ago. Which sucks because it was basically the only sport I was ever good at, at my peak I was just a bit over 24s freestyle 50m.
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>>38125622
How is swimming gonna injure your shoulders? How weak can a shoulder possibly be, you're literally pushing water
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>>38126267
>not having 150IQ
>not getting into an ivy school
>not making 80k starting and up from there
>not being 1900 elo at chess
>not knowing how to do [random esoteric thing]
SO WEIRD AND SAD OMG EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE THE SKILLS I DO BUT WHAT I DON'T HAVE DOESN'T MATTER LOL
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>>38126267
It'd call swimming one of the core skills (like riding a bike or speaking a foreign language), then again this set of skills that society decided everybody should know is pretty arbitrary. Why learn to swim instead of learning to do skydiving relative works? Why learn to ride a bike, not to skateboard? I guess being a decent swimmer can save your life, but I'm not even sure about that. People usually overestimate their ability and even very strong swimmers are absolutely wrecked by open water when the tide catches them...
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Does cardio really kill gains?
New to this board and Its obviously a common meme but idk how real it is
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>>38126335
i found the ignorant american who never swam in his life.the faster you push water the more resistance it gives you since it can't be compressed. you literally get taught this in junior highschool when you're like 13.
your ignorance is too much.
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>>38126267

>didn't know how to swim when i was 9
>terrified of any depth of water above waist height
>school does swimming lessons when we turn 10
>get really stressed out about the embarassment that was on the way
>during the summer holidays my parents put me on a one week crash course
>massive confidence boost to me
>ended up swimming at least 4 times a week right through until i was 16
>became a lifeguard
>broke 2 bones in my hand
>got fat
>not been in a swimming pool in 6 years

I understand both sides of it, but sadly most adults have built up deep water to being the worst thing ever and aren't willing to make themselves vulnerable enough to learn how to swim. There's also the large number of adults who aren't near bodies of water, so don't see swimming as a vital or even beneficial skill.
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>>38126335
> you are literaly pulling your body by rotating your shoulders for hours every day
> how is this going to ruin your shoulders?
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>>38126378
Considering I live in the middle of a desert, no I don't consider swimming very important to learn
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>>38124961
gives me really fucking dry skin plus now the closest pool to me is expensive and a 30 minute drive

i'll pick it up again if i live near one again
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>>38126363
>I guess being a decent swimmer can save your life, but I'm not even sure about that.

so this doesnt happen to you
http://abcnews.go.com/WN/teens-drown-wading-louisianas-red-river/story?id=11312631
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>>38124961
chlorine intoxication, eye irritation, nose and ear pain, the works
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>>38125035
so are whales and thy swim erryday
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>>38126472
i evolved to be a land whale
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>>38126356
>Triggered ex-fatty who refused to go to the pool as a kid to learn how to swim
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>swimming laps
>decide to take a breather, laying back against the wall at the shallow end of pool
>notice the guy in the lane next to mine is standing still, turned away from me, with his hands in front of him
>after about 20sec he faces his lane again and pushes off for another lap
>the smell of ammonia hits me hard

>find out pro swimmers piss in pools often, but for them it's different, they're swimming in huge pools, and they're not wearing regular trunks, they're jammed into elite suits that are a bitch to get on and off, and they're drinking fucktons of water
>michael phelps thinks "chlorine kills it" when in actuality it stinks up the pool and raises the room temperature if people keep doing it
>realize that I'll have to swim in the energy drink piss of wannabe elites if I want to swim in a lap pool
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>>38126604

>ex-fatty

Fatty until proven otherwise.
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>>38126623

It's fucking disgusting, but it's an inevitability. Any swimming pool will always have dirty cunts that'll piss in it. Even though most facilities have several sets of toilets available you get people that are too lazy to just get out and do things properly.

Just don't drink the water and make sure you've got a strong body wash for the shower.
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>>38126623
Never go at a busy time in the summer, kids have been known to shit in the pool. Often doesn't get found until someone collides with the poop and informs the lifeguard to evacuate the pool too.
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>>38126659
wtf I hate swimming now
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>>38125014
>be a little faggot
>scared of water
>dad tries to fix by making you swim
>literally everyone does this
>instead of learning to cope you bitch out
>still scared of water

Why even live you little faggot??
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>>38126683

At the pool I worked at, once a year, during the summer, they'd drain the pool entirely and the staff would work through the night to get the pool scrubbed clean and then re-filled and opened again at 6am the next day. Other than that you just hoped the filters took care of all the liquid.
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>>38125339
I'm a teacher. Summers off. Holidays. 157 working days a year. Poor as shit... but, I've always been into intellectual pursuits over material possessions.
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AB(swim)C(swim) to be honest, friends and family
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I dont know how to cardio-swim apart from breaststroke

Also all that chlorine in the pool gives me nasty shit on my chest after some time

Also it is pretty time consuming
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>>38126945
>Also it is pretty time consuming
Not really, it's one of the least time consuming cardio exercises out there in terms of calories burned v time.
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>>38126969
it takes me around 2 minutes to stand up from my computer, dress up in shorts and running shoes and Im ready to go
it takes me around 30 minutes alone to pack my shit, drive to the next swimming pool and change into my speedos

not really worth those 89.4kcal extra burned per hour
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>>38126689
I learned to swim by letting go of the wall for longer and longer periods of time while swimming lengths.Even today, I wouldn't trust my dad to save me from drowning.
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I can't swim, and I'm too old to be taking swimming lessons or trying to paddle in a pool.
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>>38124961
Doggy paddle isn't good exercise.
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>>38127245
>old people paddling
>every YMCA pool ever
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>>38127245
How old are you?
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>>38126699
>I've always been into intellectual pursuits over material possessions.
>yfw
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>>38125148
looking like a fish wouldn't be that bad if you want to swim though
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>>38126300
name?
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>>38126372
it doesn't, just eat more
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>>38126407
So do I, and swimming is fucking easy.
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>>38125339
>>38126144
>friends
>gfs
>hobbies
>4chan

lel you guys
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>>38125339
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRHCp9Wblro
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>>38125024
Kek
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gets in my nose and makes me feel like I'm going to puke.
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>>38125339

>leave for work at 8:30
>in by 8:50
>get home at 5:20
>m w f, lift for bout an hour and a half
>t t s go swimming
>pool 10 mins away
>still tiem to play muh guitar and shtpost on intenet


feels good
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>tfw when there's a pool that barely anyone knows about in walking distance from my house

They even have a sauna.
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>>38128323
You're not supposed to look down when swimming, dipshit.
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>>38125339
Who tf works out for 2-3 hours?
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Being forced to swim on a team as a kid ruined swimming for me.

Also chlorine fucks my skin up
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>>38127245
>I can't swim, and I'm too old to be taking swimming lessons
No you're not. I was a competitive swimmer growing up, and taught group and private swim lessons through high school and college. I taught two year Olds, 20 year olds, and 60 year Olds how to swim. I had one woman who was 85 and wanted to learn how to swim.
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>>38124961
My back is full of scars my violent father has left behind.
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>>38128323
Breathe out when you heads in the water. It's what you are supposed to do.

>>38128653
Yes you are moron. There's a reason in a pool with lanes that there are lines and T's on the bottom of the pool.

To answer the OP's quesiton 3-4 times a week is enough I think. Especially when I'm doing 90 minutes sessions each time.
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>>38125207
>simple form that you really cant fuck up that much

7 years swimming instructor here. wut...
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it's $100 a month, I wish I could afford that
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>>38124985
put on a weighted vest and swim 10m
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chlorine contact with skin decreases testosterone
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>>38125339
you're making time to post on this board but you couldve swam instead

no excuses like the other guy said>>38125389
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>>38125207
>>38125148
>breath stroke

IT'S FUCKING BREAST
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>>38124961
I dont have any arms or legs, i typed this with my dick
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>month ago
>swimming half of pool length (25m) made me out of breat
>swimming entire length in 1 go was basically murder
>today
>doing laps for 30 minutes, then a little break and 20 minutes more

getting season pass for swimming pool was the best thing ive ever done for myself
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pools constantly full of kebab, either drowning or trying to rape little kids.
either way too distracting for meaningful exercise
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>>38125014
kek my dad did the same thing to me but i can swim just fine now. i only have a phobia of being underwater too long in the deep end because i used to lifeguard and i almost got drowned by a big black guy who wanted to grab me instead of the rescue tube.

>>38125024
fuck off
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>>38125024
wtf
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Did that Ruth Kazez 0 to 1650 program and it kicked ass, so fucking good. It's a lot less forgiving that Couch to 5k and is better for it.

My problem since finishing has been to find an intermediate program. I find I work best with structured programs with clear end goals, but I haven't found one yet. Working on things like my footwork in the meantime, going well so far.

Anyone know of such a program? I love dat swimman so I want to keep it up
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>>38125014
I fell in a pool unsupervised when I was 3 and had to be pulled out. I don't know if that's why but I've never felt comfortable in the water. It took till age 19 to just do a dead man's float and age 20 to float on my back. I can sort of swim now.
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>>38124961
I run instead
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FUCK THIS SHIT MY POOL IS CLOSED FOR 'MAINTENANCE' FOR 1 FUCKING MONTH

1

FUCKING

MONTH

I USED TO SWIM 2-3 KM DAILY AND THEN DO MY WORKOUTS AND I GOT SICK ASS GAINS WHY DO THEY GOT TO SABOTAGE ME LIKE THIS

CAN I SWIM IN THE SEA TO SIMULATE THE GAINS I MADE?

I GOT MY 100 M FREESTYLE FROM A PATHETIC 1.55 TO 1.20 IN A YEAR CMOOON
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I'm thinking of getting into swimming to supplement my cycling and jogging but I don't know where to start. I just got a YMCA membership to use their pool. I haven't been in a pool since elementary school. Should I take a few lessons before jumping in?
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>>38125051
WRONG

you inhale underwater

>2016
>not having gills

NEVER
GONNA
MAKE
IT
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>>38132372
I snorted
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Fucks up my skin.
Would fuck up my hair.
Heavily treated pool water gives me respiratory infections for some reason.
I would swim three times a week if I could, it's pretty fun.
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>>38133943
swimming in the sea is way better than swimming in a pool
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>>38132306
how do you fuck up breaststroke
you just copy what frogs do
compare to 'crawling' through water

>>38133966
If you know how to swim, you can practice a few drills you find off youtube before taking adult lessons.
http://www.virtual-swim.com/3d_mv/3d_index.html
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>>38133943
AND BECAUSE I'M BORED I'LL SHARE SOME SHIT SWIM WORKOUTS 4 U

500M FREESTYLE WARMUP
100 TO 500 M PYRAMID AND ALL THE WAY DOWN AGAIN, MIX BREASTROKE AND KICKBOARDS AND GO ALL OUT ON THE 300S (DO THEM UNDER 7 MINS U FAG)
THEN ANOTHER 500 M COOLDOWN SWIM

OR

500 M WARMUP
HYPOXIC PYRAMID WTF LOOK IT UP CAN YOU MAKE IT TO 12 STROKES? GOODBYE LUNGS
500 M AGAIN BECAUSE FUCK YOU

OR MY FAVORITE
500 M WARMUP
5X100 SPRINT
5X50 KICKBOARD
5X50 ARM PULL ONLY AND YOU DON'T EVEN REST FAGGOT IT'S EGGBEATER KICK HANDS OUT FOR 1 MIN THEN YOU GO AGAIN FUCK YOU
5X50 PUSSY ASS STROKE LIKE BREASTROKE OR SIDESTROKE
1500 M NON STOP SWIMMING GODDAMN

THINK THESE ARE HARD? ASK A PRO SWIMMER ABOUT HIS WORKOUT I CAN'T EVEN COME CLOSE NIGGA
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>>38124961
I have had 4 surgeries in the last year, latest one being in april. I have a drain on place and going in the water could cause an infection I reall can't handle right now.
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>>38133943
>2-3km daily
>sick-ass gains

How did you not go fully skelly?

Genuinely asking. Building up to 1500m I lost a shitton of weight, to the point that I was worried I was losing too quickly
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>>38124961
I don't have a pool and I'm a weak swimmer. Plus public pools are disgusting and full of poor people and Puerto ricans.
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>>38134104
First of all it's not really a big distance.

Second in the afternoons i would do high intensity cardio along with high rep calisthenics + lifting heavy 1-2 times a week. And i did all this while cutting. I only got stronger and faster and i did this for 2 months.

As you can see i didn't go full skelly. When you get the technique down swimming tires you way less than it used to.
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>>38125101
When they wreestle you down just swim further down?
Dont try and struggle up, go down go around
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>>38125148>>38125170
This is butterfly, its cheast and form heavy and the most tiering
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>>38128653
Lol no swim here
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Planet lulz doesn't have a pool ;^(((((
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>>38124961
>swimming = cardio = nogains
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>>38134043
You can fuck up breaststroke by measing up the timing and hand position.
Its not a huge deal because you are technically still doing it and moving forward, but getting the timing down correctly is important if you wanna move efficiantly, if you do it wrong half of what you do is working against you
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>>38135102
that makes sense
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>>38135133
A lot of swimming is very technical, rolling, timing, hand positioning, etc.
Some of the smallest shit tou would think is unimportant can make big differences
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https://www.amazon.com/Sony-Walkman-NWZW273S-Waterproof-Swimming/dp/B00I05EFO4/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&qid=1469048071&sr=8-78&keywords=swimming&linkCode=ll1&tag=topcuraprod-20&linkId=6e38fd491514d683241faae7f02a6ba5
I use these, they help me swim much longer cuz i get bored with no music
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>>38134043
>copy what frogs do
Kind of. You might mess up the kick thinking of it that way. It's all about the whipping motion with your legs when swimming breaststroke. At high levels it's a pretty damn explosive movement each time. Though you can say that about fly as well. Fly is basically repeatedly doing explosive muscle ups.

Technique is of huge importance when swimming. In general if you are beginning swimming it is better to focus on technique rather than fitness. You can have all the power you want but if you can't apply it properly then you're going nowhere.
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>>38126699
>but, I've always been into intellectual pursuits over material possessions.
fuck off faggot
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>i went to a public swimming bath every day to get fit
>one day i was swimming and i noticed a huge turd sunk at the bottom of the pool beneath me
> wtf i hate swimming now


who the fuck does a poo in the pool? the fuck man
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>>38124961
I'm surprised no one mentioned the high correlation between swimmers and asthma
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>>38136048
also i actually found another pool to go to now
its at a hotel and i am allowed to use there pool if i pay per session, hardly nobody knows about it.
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>>38125014
when i was younger there was a field trip to a water park and i got partnered with a kid older than me and he kept trying to push me under the fucking water in the wave pool even though i was like 5. also my brother always held me under water cause he was a cunt.
basically my point is you are a faggot
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