>keto is a meme >you can only lose 1 lb a week

>>38109948
>guy eats at caloric deficit
>eats keto

>WOAH IT MUST HAVE BEEN KETO

Aiming for 1-2lb/week is for people trying to preserve muscle.

I have never seen a thin person do keto.

>>38109973
Fpbp

could've just eaten a balanced diet and lifted and got better results in 6 months

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You can put those images in the reverse order and it'll be him in a couple of months

>be fat
>have all kinds of muscle develop to carry all that fat around
>decide to lose weight
>dont lift
>become skinnyfat

what a waste

>>38109948
From fat to skinny fat. I mean good for him but is there one fit guy who follows the keto meme? Never seen a keto fag here posting CB.

Why do people who lose lots of weight always remain their fat faces? Seems ridicilous

just like every single fucking time the guy is DYEL and the progress isn't anything that a normal diet wouldn't accomplish

>100% of keto """""success""""" stories, ever
>going from obese to overweight or from overweight to skinnyfat
pick 2

Why do people decide to get facial hair like that
It just looks horrible

>>38110025
>have all kinds of muscle
>this is what fatties believe
did it really come as a surprise that you were untrained and that there was no muscle under all that fat? all that fatties have muscle wise is big calves.

>>38110075
'cause they don't actually lose *that* much weight, just go down to skinnyfat at like 20% BF.

>>38110115
You're an idiot
The body produces more muscle even dormant with a higher body mass
That's why fatties can often go straight to 100kg+ DLs and 70-80kg bench while skinnyfats start at like 60-70kg DL and 40-50kg bench

>>38109996
yaff

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This is a 24 weeks progress not even dieting because I obviously didn't know shit about nutrition just kept eating whatever junk food I was already eating but just enough to be on a calorie deficit.

Pls no bully.

>>38110457

Are you gay?

>>38110480
Sort of, I'm more sexually attracted to girls but when it comes to actual connections I prefer bois

>>38110457
Did you go mtf? No joke like the hair, the legs, the jeans

>>38110457
show boipucci

>>38110457
LONDON

>>38110493
No I always had a somewhat feminine body, when I was a kid I got testosterone injections or whatever they give people to become manlier because mother didn't think I was manly enough.
I'm not transgender

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290 to 212 in pic. keto, now cycle between keto and normal diet.

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>try keto
>first 3 days are a bit of a pain
>afterwards feel fine
>7 days in get a small rash
>it increase in size the longer I do keto
>itches like hell and leaves scars if you scratch it
>doctors don't know what the fuck it is
>instantly gets removed when consuming carbs
>comes back every time I try doing keto again

Thanks God.

>>38110610
Don't do keto, as I said before caloric deficit is all you need

>>38110457
/fa/ggot

you need some squats and oats

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>>38110457
Post birthin hips, Manta

These are 400 lb behemoths. Without Keto they can't actually stick to a caloric deficit.

>>38110457
>>38110556
>roidingforthis.jpg

>>38109948
>fat fuck loses 2lb/week
WOW GUYS ITS ALL A LIE

>>38110075
I Dont understand this. All my friends got fat faces in college but their bodies stayed the same. I gained 40lbs of fat and my face was still lean and beautiful. Is it just that I'm lucky with genetics?

>>38110848
They're not even that wide, I think Las picture I posted as manta was the one that was put on a meme next to trappy that usually gets posted in "who do you lift for" thread.
I would post it but I'm not home, I'm a the beach Pokemon hunting

>>38110244
I can confirm this. I wasn't obese but I started out with a 120kg dl because of fat

>>38110244

no, that's just leverages.

this is a basic powerlifting concept.

heavier -> lift more weight.

there was a study where they MRI'd a bunch of obese fat and found they had virtually no muscle at all in response to their obesity.

to the contrary they were barely containing it all

i remember the abdominal wall was literally on the verge of bursting, and this does actually happen with obese people & pregnant women.

it's called ab splitting.

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>>38111001
>They're not even that wide

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>>38111001
>>38111514

>>38110610
looks like shingles m8

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>>38111526

>>38111526
DELETE THIS

>>38110457
>those pants

holy fuck that's some /fa/gayt tier.

>>38110075
They didn't do exercises that reduce the fat on their faces. Simple as that.

>>38110610
what the fuck

Why tf are redditfags so happy with their lame average cringey change in their body weight?
Like they lost some weight but they still look like shit and they're are actually happy about it.

>>38111526
Please be in London

>>38110244
Nah breh. I was skinnyfat and I started with a 2pl8 diddly.

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>>38112749
Skinnyfat here, started with 100kg deedle

>>38110244
Anyone who doesn't start off with a 100kg deadlift has never done any sort of manual labor in their life.

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keto: 1,5 month

steroids just to maintain LBM

>>38112379
Because when you lose all that fat suddenly you feel amazing and happy people tend to want to share.

As a side note any fat person that says they feel terrible when they lose weight are losing too fast.

>>38112940
i think u have a parasite

>>38112940
>roiding for this

>>38109973
You can eat a caloric surplus and still lose weight, depending on the type of macronutrient you are ingesting, the body treats each one differently and a big part of the food becomes feces anyway, making you discard calories without any physical exercise.

>>38112930
anyone can catback 100kg. Try to do it with proper form first time and there's no way you're lifting 100kg.

>>38110075
cause they're still fat. They think 220lbs is skinny, but it's not.

>>38113274

Holy shit you are fucking retarded.

>>38113336
How so?

>>38110457
>88 lbs in 24 weeks
>3.6repeating lbs per week

That's a ridiculous caloric deficit to keep up, how the fuck did you not feel like death?

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Not trying to hijack but what's the consensus on PSMF? Day 6 here lost 3 lbs so far.

>>38113274
>Caloric surplus
>Loosing weight.

Choose one.

>>38110457
so you turned yourself to a girl?

>>38109948
keto is a meme, and no, you can lose more than 1lb a week but 1lb is considered safe

idort

>>38111526
wew

>>38110016
No diet will cause a rebound effect. The rebound is caused by the mental thought of "now I'm finished so I can go back to eating normal!" But normal to ex-fatties is way over what they should be eating at their new weight and they 'yo-yo' back to their old weight.

Why keto works well: the post
* very restrictive, makes you pay attention to every little thing you eat
* forces you to easily hit protein macros daily
* no carbs = no junk food, no sugar, no chips, no garbage food
* actual penalty for breaking rules (you leave ketosis)
* ketosis burns fat more efficiently, meaning less chance of muscle loss

Did I miss any?

>>38111526
those lips :o

>>38113530
so you're saying you'd eat fast food and chocolate all day if you could eat carbs and that's why you choose keto
and the last one is false
dude I seriously pity you because you can't eat like a normal person and get ripped and have actual muscles

>>38113530
high fat intake => increased satiety => nigga u just dont want to overeat

that's been keto for me

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>>38113336
>>38113443
This table is from an experiment run by Dr. Kekwick from University of London. As you can see, 2600 calories intake of high fat diet led to weight loss, while 2000 calories (less calories) of normal diet (less fat) led to weight gain on the subjects.

Full text is here:
http://superhumanradio.com/media/DL/28131415-Kekwick-Pawan-1956-Lancet.pdf

It also shows that a caloric deficit have different effect on weight loss according to the macronutrients ingested. High fat diet being the best one and high protein diet being the second best.

>>38113425
10/10 would ravish is my consensus

>>38113641
WEIGHT LOSS =! FAT LOSS YOU IMBECILE

>>38113668
I need to stop posting with pics of hoties lol.. only replies I ever get

>>38109995
>>38110058
Lurk more, then

I've posted at least a dozen pics of my bodyfat going from 12 to ~9% via keto. Keto is fucking legit, as long as you aren't stupid about it. Keto doesnt mean stuff your face with bacon all day

>>38113530
I've started doing keto. How do I know when ketosis has kicked in?

>>38113697
when your brain no longer runs on glucose and you become so stupid you recommend keto to other people

>>38113679
I was talking to two anonymous that said "weight loss", I used the exactly same expression. Also, the paper is on obese people, so probably weight loss mostly mean fat loss in it.

>>38113679
>>38113641

This, while it does hold some merit, it says that part of the weight lost could be 30-50% from water. Also how about a study that isn't 60 years old.

>>38113641
>waht is water weight

>>38113738
Nah dude thats raw vegan

>>38111526
Good job ruining my 80 day nofap, faggot
fuick you

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2 years low-carb mostly.. aside from beer.

(Was lifting the whole time, and i obviously sacrificed gains/progress.. but no regrets -- it's sustainable.)

that's about 100 pounds lost. no yo-yo effect, or feeling like i'm depriving myself of anything.

It's rare, but it can work, but like all diets you need to make it a permanent 'lifestyle' choice, vs something you do for 6 months then 'quit' once you reach some goal.

When you nervously search internet for irrelevant, outdated and flawed '''''STUDIES''''' and stay DYEL, normal people EAT CARBS and make GAINS

>>38113679
>moving the goal posts - the post

Just admit you got BT the FO by someone who knows more than you. I've said it a billion times, people are finally starting to catch on. CICO is a fucking joke pushed by big food co. To make you feel justified about buying their processed garbage.

Keto/paleo/clean eating is the only way fatfucks can lose weight and keep it off. You can now spout your thermodynamics bullshit until you are blue in the face, but no one cares. 100 calories of soda will never be equal to 100 calories of spinach in any regard, whether we are talking fat loss, weight loss, muscle gain, anything.

You people hang on to your 'science' and your IIFYM and your CICO and do your shakeologies and your 21 day fixes yet you are mostly all still disgusting fatasses. But then people who have actually been there and done that tell you how they did it and your only answer is
> hurrr keto is a meme durr thermodynamics right guise

It's actually quite amusing to witness from my perspective

>>38113826
>Keto/paleo/clean eating
kill yourself, tripfag. You vegan aswell?

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>>38113274

>You can eat a caloric surplus and still lose weight,

>>38113756
>>38113749
They already account for water weight and still conclude there is an actual difference in weight loss.
>>38113804
>normal people eat carbs and make gains
Which it does not mean it's the best approach or necessary approach.

>>38113826
chill out tripfag,ofc if you eat only protein its obvious you wont gain fucking fat,even if you ate only carbs you would need to eat a fuckton of them before your body starts converting them into fat,so you are right but you need to not be a fag and controll your autistic rage attacks

>>38111526

You literally have the body of a woman.

>>38113849
Nope I eat steak, eggs, ground beef, chicken, white bread, pasta, peanut butter, donuts, fast food, ice cream, brownies, etc...

Just had cake for my kids' birthday when we got home from McDicks. I made shepards pie for tonight, then im gonna have more cake. Then im'a hit the gym and when I get home I'll have warm baguette with brie stuffed in the middle... Then i'm gonna get stoned and eat my nightly midnight snack
>1.5 cup vanilla yogurt
>3/4 cup kraft PB
>2 cup oats
>1 scoop choco whey
>handful whatever fruit is in the fridge

I'm aiming for 4000-4500/day right now. I'm not trying to lose weight, though. However when I do want to lose weight, I know how to fucking do it, and it sure as hell doesn't involve high GI carbohydrates and processed foods.

>>38110457
Fag

>>38111526
more

>>38113917
You're probably fat and not vascular at all.

>>38113425
yea PSMF is going great for me. been nearly a week on it, following strictly. lost 4lbs, no strength loss just yet

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>>38110457
POST BOYPUSSY RIGHT NOW

>>38113425
Do it if you have the balls and do t feel like dying doing it,I lost a fuckton of fat being a category 2 fag.

I have done various cycles,from 2 weeks to 1 month,a tip:take all the recommended supps and the adequate quantity if you do t wanna get fucked.

>>38113963
Yeah, not true at all.... I'm 78kilos at 178cm at 10% bodyfat. Vascular af too

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>>38112940

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>>38113641

Now for a less crazy interpretation of that study

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RFNad-zA_4#t=3m8s

>>38109948
he will go right back to the image on the left once he starts eating normally again. Or he eats the shit boring keto diet his whole life.

Source: I went full auschwitz with keto and gained it all right back. Now I exercise and just don't eat like a retard

>>38113787
low carb isnt keto you dip. You just cut out a huge amount of calories

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>>38111526
>>38111604
>>38112474
>>38113495
>>38113552
>>38113784
>>38113905
>>38113932
>>38113962
>>38113981

>>38114114
>keto
>boring
how the hell is meat and dairy boring?
steak, sausage, eggs, dairy etc.. unless you have a sweet tooth?

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>>38114141
V A N C O U V E R

>>38114137
eh, i was in ketosis for chunks of time, punctuated by carbs (mainly beer.)

point is i've been able to stick to a diet that's probably 60% protein, 30% fat, 10% carbs for 2 years without relapsing back into the bullshit that made me 300 pounds at 5'11.

maybe the dude in OP's pic will too. hard to say.

>>38114141
FACE FACE FACE FACE FACE

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>>38114141

ASS
S
S

>>38114141
I demand MORE

>>38114141
Hey dont ignore. Give more

>>38114141
please

>>38114077
I am the guy who posted that. Thanks for this video, just threw this pdf in my trashcan. Still am in favor eating paleo, keto and shit, but this study is shit.

>>38114141
come on, dont dissapoint

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>>38112940
Why don't you post this one anymore

>>38112940
your muscles look like they're filled with lumpy mashed potatoes

>>38114141
would go gay for you, familia

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>>38114154
>>38114178
>>38114200
>>38114308
>>38114348
>>38114387
>>38114496
>>38114624

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>>38114781
LORDOSIS
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>>38114831

>>38110981
or its because you're estatting on a mongolian knitting board

>>38114141

I don't see any junk. Are we sure this is a dude? I'd fuck anon either way, but I'm curious.

>>38113969
Nice, bro. What are you eating? I'm mostly on tuna, chicken breast and egg whites. Not 100% sure if I'm making the best of it. Some veg in there too but many of them have carbs so..

>>38114006
Yeah I got fish oil, calcium, multivitamin and magnesium. I'm not clear about what the right amount is though. Since you have experience, what sups did you take?

Admittedly I did feel like shit the first 3 days before I got the sups and added more protein. I'm a newfag I know

>>38115340
Shame about the face.

YOU GUYS ARE ALL FUCKING GAY!!!!!! Reeeeeeeee

>>38116072
more?

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>>38112940
>roiding your nuts off to look like a bag of smashed assholes

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>>38110457
>>38111526
>>38114141
>>38114781
>>38115340
>>38116072

>>38115340
MORE

>>38113787
you look good bro, nice frame

>>38115340
Please I beg of you I need MORE

i'm only triping for actual identity proof, i know you hate trip fags

>>38113381
i was feeling cold, sometimes week and i didn't have a caloric limit, if 500 calories i ate some days that was fine.

>>38113932
you think so?

>>38111526
I didn't post this pic (ITT) but yeah this is me

>>38113905
thanks :3

>>38114308
i stopped tripwhoring months ago, sorry man, all that gets posted is what people have saved from old posts

>>38114348
for the

>>38114348
>>38114496
sorry m80s I stopped tripwhoring months ago, i didn't post this picture right now, some other anon did.

>>38115604
I'm a boy, they're female panties, they help a lot when hiding feminine benis

>>38116934
that was the last picture ever i took wearing female clothes, i don't even remember uploading it here, but that's all there is

>lose a shit ton of weight
>still look weird

Good for him, but nigga needs to lift.

>>38109973
/thread

>>38110457
>Twinkmode

What the hell happened to this thread?

>>38109948

Keto does two things for you:

1. Helps you manage cravings. You'll feel less hungry.
2. Breaks your sugar addiction.

It does not violate CICO, however many people (myself included) report being able to stick to it and lose weight without actually having to track calories. You just eat normally and it works out to a caloric deficit anyway.

>>38117594
/fit/ just being /fit/
enjoy your stay

>>38110559
a-are you me? Holy shit lol same body and everything.

>>38110244

>this is what fat people believe

I can also increase my bench if i get 5kg fatter, but it doesn't mean that those 5 kg are in any way muscle lol

>>38110610

>being so physically weak that your body can't process protein like a normal human being

>>38110058
I'm keto
Just started a few weeks ago and have already dropped 16 lbs
The reason I chose keto is because carbs are the easiest thing to cut.
I had no idea how many calories I was consuming because of bread, pasta and rice. They compound so quickly because you almost never eat just one serving of spaghetti, Alfredo, or rice. You almost never have just one serving of bread to soak up the sauce or just one pan cake for breakfast.
I didn't drink much soda, like 2 cans a week max, and I didn't eat fast food almost at all.
My fast food of choice wasn't mcburgers it was fried chicken and if I had my choice for going out it was a Chinese buffet.
I was inhaling carbs and didn't even comprehend how many I was having.
Keto works for me because it forces me to not carb load every meal, this causes a caloric deficit which results in weight loss.
Also the keto science is really damn cool and actually checks out in peer review.

>>38113530

a big thing for keto is that lean meats and fish has less calories than carbs per gram

so basically if you do keto with a normal diet you will still eat less calories

it's easy to overeat calories with carbs

>>38111545
shingles follows dermatomes.

>>38113697
About 3 days of no carb you will have a huge watery shit, that's when ketosis kicks in and I'm not even memeing.

Keto for 6 months, then another 1 1/2 years low carb but not always strict keto. From 260 down to 169, first 60 came off in about 6 months, last 30 a bit slower. Do a halfass weight/bodyweight routine 3 days a week.

>>38117738
Protein and carbs have the same number of calories per gram.
It's that food with high proteins aren't as calorie dense.
>100 grams of chicken has less calories than 100 grams of bread.

>>38110610
Anon, don't worry, I'm literally the same. It's a rare condition and basically no doctor has heard of it, but what you wrote is true - I've personally went through month-long keto at least 6 times and it ALWAYS appears on the 3rd day of zero carbs, itches like hell and at the exact same spots as that pic (tho not as severe)

It's harmless and you shouldn't scratch it. Moreover, if you do a longer period of keto (two weeks and up), it actually disappears. It seems to be caused (in my opinion) by toxins accumulated in your fats, which under keto are rapidly burned, therefor rapidly released into your body - it's something like food poisoning from junk food being deposited in your fat.
But yes, they also disappear on the next day of exiting keto as you said.

>>38117850
And another thing to add

What this guy is saying >>38117708 is false. It's not protein overload, as I've done auschwitz-tier keto with 500kcal daily and some 20-30g protein at most and still had that rash. It's either some bacteria imbalance in your gut from the lack of carbs, or your fats being toxic as fuck and the release of them causing a poisoning

>>38117807
Wew lad you are not kidding.

I was expelling mad water in my BM for the first few days of PSMF. Finally had a somewhat normal tiny one today on day 5. Wew

I wonder what causes that though. Like what's happening down there?

>>38117837
How do you look now? How's the skin situation? You did it over time so you must be alright, yea?

>>38119047
Well when cutting carbs you also cut fiber, stuff makes your poop feel like soft serve ice cream, you're eating more compactable food and drinking a bunch of water.
So unless you take a fiber supplement you will have smaller hard poops.

>>38114152
When on keto you should be avoiding milk due to the high sugar content.

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>>38117397
I'm actually angry at you for having those proportions when I had to take hormones to get that ratio for myself. Are you natty? Height? Do you work out? I genuinely want to hit you for daring to be like this, don't want to understate that, but I'm also happy for your progress.

>>38119085
That part makes sense to me but what causes that waterfall effect at the beginning?

>>38119303
>Are you natty?
yes, i never took any female hormones or anything similar, not even soy milk which I heard has strogen in it because I just hate milk.

>Height?
5'7 or 5'8

Do you work out?
My focus has been nutrition and cardio since I lost weight, I can give you decent addvice on those, I do light weight lifting from time to time maybe 2 times a week and is always legs focused.

> genuinely want to hit you for daring to be like this
kek I was actually told this IRL once on a date with another feminine benis who had been on HRT for 3 years yet I was still more feminine looking tham him

>but I'm also happy for your progress.
thanks man, /fit/ has played a great part in my journey, I used to post as manta all the time and I thought it was funny to see people angry at my figure so I tried to keep it and there were also those mirin that made me feel somewhat responsible and that was enough motivation to keep eating healthy and not lose my way.

Thank you /fit/

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>>38119381
The soy milk stuff is garbage. If you ever start wondering about preservatives hrt is your only option and I don't recommend it if you're not a tranny. Don't need advice thank you though, I've got my situation well in hand. I'm just upset that your genetics have enabled you naturally to where I had to work to get. My consolation being the intense desire to be better than you through effort. Congrats on your progress and I hope I can drop kick you one day.

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>>38109948
Bs, i was 6'2" 320lbs started strict keto foods only but kept my calorie intake at 3000+ daily and lost 50 lbs in 30 days.

I am also testing the calorie deficit, i have been on a 500-800 calorie deficit diet for 30 days and gone from 305lbs to 275lbs. its called dedication and rounding down for your calories allowed and round up on your calorie intake. Then you are promised results.

>>38111545
You have no idea how shingles work do you? It's literally impossible to have them in mpre than on spot.

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>>38119480
>testing calorie deficit
>testing

nigga its been proven for decades wtf are you testing

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>>38109995

>>38110082
It would be alright on the right if he had a better jaw

>>38113274
>This is what fatties actually believe.

>>38109995
I know that you're memeing but that's because you do keto to lose weight.

>>38113274
I dont even have a Image for this. Lmao.

>>38109948
How is keto ever a meme its science and shiet.

But Mantaman, you can still take pictures can you not

Anyone here that has done Lazy keto? I want to do it since im still a g-growing boy and I'm always hungry but dont want to track calories religiously

>>38120756
yeah, but I was on vacation a couple of weeks ago hence my absence, on that vacation I gained 32 pounds, I was 104lbs when I left and came back 136lbs, I'm already losing weight again, I'm at 125lbs but I don't feel fully worthy of the trip just yet, but once I get back in shape I'll start sharing again if people still want me to.

>>38120833
Yes.. Yesssss

>>38109973
keto is more efficient in weight reduction if you also train

http://ergo-log.com/exercise-and-low-carb-diet-combo-excellent-way-to-lose-weight.html

By nearly 20%

>>38110457
keto made me you gay?

>>38121264
Never done keto before, as said before, just kept eating same food I already ate when fat but just enough to be on a caloric deficit

>>38119342
A wall of water building up behind your huge carb loaded poops.

>>38109948
I can see his fucking lose skin hanging over is pants in the second picture.

>>38121866
I think you are just guessing or maybe you just want to refer to building a wall bc you're obsessed with TV.

>>38121866
it's because your body is shedding sodium, which causes the cell membranes in the colon to become impermeable to water, and it only has one place to go from there.

>>38122977
Ooooh. Why does it make you shed sodium when you stop the fat and carbs?

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>>38122909
Sure you can buddy

>>38123210
hmm, it's electrolytes in general, but sodium is the reason for the bowel clearing on the first few days of a low carb diet.

as to why? your google is as good as my google.

>>38113868
Protip: putting food in your mouth does not immediately teleport mystical caloric energy into your bloodstream

It's not a simple addition problem.
The " calories in" and "out" terms depend on your digestive tract, diet, intestinal fauna, and a load of other shit. You can't read it off a wrapper.

>>38110075
Didn't do their chin-ups.

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I'm not here to argue whether or not it's a meme, but keto has been great for me. Never posted pics of my fatness before so please no bully.

>easier to stick to 2000 calories per day than a normal calorie deficit
>enjoying cooking keto foods
>gallon of water or more every day
>never felt shitty, even in the first 2 days to 2 weeks that everyone talks about being especially rough
>1 hour of cardio (swimming or walking) 3 times a week

Went from a 300 pound fatass to a 245 pound fat ass in 90 days. It's been good for me, but keto definitely isn't for everyone

>>38113787
Nice work anon, looking great

>>38123840
>easier to stick to 2000 calories per day than a normal calorie deficit

That's the point, it's a shitty diet for people who have no will to do things right.

Good progress though, and if it's working for you keep going I guess. The thing is, if you were just doing a proper diet, and succeeding at it, you'd be doing even better when it comes to your quality of life.

Keto+clen=3-7lbs a week.

>>38120833
>yeah, but I was on vacation a couple of weeks ago hence my absence, on that vacation I gained 32 pounds
Dude you need to get your binge eating control. Get some psychological help too maybe. From what you're posting here it sounds like you are gaining and losing weight at way too rapid a pace. It's gotta be hell on your body.

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>>38111526
Was this all just from dieting? Did you have any problems with loose skin?

>>38125660
Not even diet man, I didn't stop eating anything, I just portioned my food better and counted calories.
I did have a loose skin problem but it went back to its place after about 4 or 5 months.