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To what degree can chest mass help cover up minor gyno? So far I've lost enough weight to expose the gyno from muscle, but not so much that all the fat behind the gyno is gone. Will working my chest help in that aspect?

>>38073022

It basically doesn't.

But it sounds like you don't actually have gyno anyway.

>>38073031
I can feel a more firm disk behind my nipples, but I have to admit, it feels smaller now than it did 26 lbs ago, so I'm just sort of waiting it out until I reach my goal weight to see.

Is biceps femoris tendonitis (outside back of knee) normal after a very heavy deadlift day? I get it every time I do singles and doubles near my max.

>>38073008
I have mild asthma which is getting worse because I dont do cardio, because I have asthma. It is a neverending cycle and i really need to start doing some low intensity stuff to get out of this.

Anyway, if I'm going hard and getting sweaty at the gym weightlifting and take a few puffs of my inhaler I feel stimulated and ready for more sets. Might be because of the increase in oxygen in my blood, or maybe just placebo? Who cares, it feels good.

Hey /fit/
I'm doing ss with chins and facepull
Is this enough to correct my shitty posture? (rounded shoulders, forward head, hollow back etc)

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I'm fat as fatass and have fat man titties like this. Will they go away with weight loss or us this some gyno?

>>38073008
How to incorporate cardio (swimming) into strength gaining routine? I do AxBxAxxBxAxBxx. Can I swim 2 times a week and still have enough time for recovery?

Why can I bench 60kg 5x5 but 62,5kg I fail the last rep on third set cmon this is so embarrasing

>>38073130
Cardio usually doesn't interfere with strength recovery so long as you don't go nuts the day before your lift days.

>>38073053
u gonna have ur tendonitis for quite sone time brah. Keep stretching

>>38073099
foam rolling upper spine (hug yourself to get the shoulders out of the way) helps a bit too

>>38073114
you may be fucked, but lose weight first, then come back

>>38073136
Rest longer between sets.

>>38073142
How about doing cardio and strength training on the same day? Cardio before training or the other way around? Or is it better to do them separately?

>>38073099
Rear delt flyes helped my posture more than rows and face pulls.

>>38073136
Bench more often, increase volume as often as you can. Do AMRAP sets of 60kg.

>>38073218
It's better to do them separately. If you do them on the same day do whichever you value more first.

>>38073091
Damn, can't wait to feel the effect.

>>38073326
One effect of some asthma drugs is a drop in blood pressure. I know I have a slight drop when I use a salbutamol inhaler.

>>38073149
There is no foam roller in my gym what is alternative movement for this one?
>>38073233
Chest supported or free is better for my situation?

>>38073343
I don't bother supporting my chest, use a light weight and make sure you can feel them squeezing at the top to start with. When you are confident you are isolating them increase weight very slowly.

>>38073339
I don't think this one does, since it tells you to consult your doctor if have high blood pressure before taking the medicine.

>>38073402
I always think that's odd when stuff says that, surely if it's prescribed by a doctor they'd know you have high blood pressure.

>>38073445
Perhaps it is to prevent getting sued by stupid Americans/Doctors. Just like Pizza Boxes/Coffee Cups say that the content may be hot.

>>38073008

Question in regard to TM.

I understand Friday is 'heavy day' and aiming for 5RMs, but at the same point in time, only doing 1x5 of a heavy weight for each lift seems like not enough volume.

What, apart from extended recovery time, would be down side of doing 4x5 of a lower weight after hitting the new 5RM for that week?

I'm coming of a ABxABxx routine so I don't feel like lack of recovery will be a major issue for me.

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HOW MICH DOES A 'PLATE' WEIGH??
AS IN LMAO1PL8

>>38073343
buy one, faggot

>>38073604
Xp8 = 45lb + (90lb * X)

>>38073580
Are you really intermediate? Check on symmetricstrength.com if you are not sure. If you are, TM will burn the shit out of you

>>38073580
you can add a couple back off sets - though 4 is a bit much.

if its not a bit much, you're better off going back to novice programming.

>>38073622
btw don't believe the kg fags that say 140kg = 3p8
45lb is not exactly 20kg so it's more like
3pl8 = 145kg

>>38073636
symmetric strength is bullshit mate.

An intermediate is a lifter who is no longer making beginner linear progression gains and requires some level of periodisation.

Did SS, had to take a break of 2 months due to unrelated things
Stats were
Squat: 110kg
DL: 130kg
Bench:87,5kg
OHP: 55kg

Should I hop on SS again or are my newb gains gone and I should do a different routine?

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>>38073636
>>38073651

This is what I get, so maybe a touch under because my squat sucks due to old injuries.

>>38073661
ok there is no strict line between novice and intermediate but s.o. might think just because he is stronger than everyone else woth his 100kg deadlift in his normie gym his is not a beginner anymore

If i'm loosing weight is 80g of protein enough or should i really really go for the 160g that I should get like the sticky says, i don't really want to get on powder protein since its expensive

>>38073693
How much do you weigh,, whats your height what's your bf%, are you strength training?

>>38073670
try canditos routines, I really wanna know if they are good

>>38073685

In addition, calculated 1RMs are

Back Squat: 117 kg[Novice]
Deadlift: 175 kg[Intermediate]
Bench Press: 111 kg[Intermediate]
Overhead Press: 58 kg[Novice]

INB4 your squat sucks, I know, I couldn't walk at the start of last year.

I get dizzy as fuck doing squats, even on light weight. My form is good. Am I breathing wrong? Thoughts?

>>38073702
I weight 80kg and my height is 180m, I do almost exclusively muscle training but i'm only on 1800cal per day to lose 1kg per week

>>38073717
google valsalva maneuver

>>38073720
And your bodyfat %?

I just got an iPhone and I was thinking about trying some app to track my workout and log my weights and reps instead of using a spreadsheet. Any good app I should know about?

>>38073735
20%

>>38073750
I'd aim for 1.6g protein per kg of lean body mass. Supplement with HMB as well

Losing weight at that rate you will be losing lean mass but it will help minimise it.

First day ever at a gym tomorrow. How do I not be an autist?

>>38073782
When in doubt, ask a nearby fit guy to help you. They love that shit.

Finasteride? Worth trying or nah? Just got a haircut and my hairline around the temples is pushed back now and I'm losing my shit. I'm 20, I can't pull off bald, my dad was actually worse at my age so I've been somewhat resilient but I can't deal with this if I can fight it.

Minoxidil is too expensive too.

You know how sometimes when you listen to music you very rarely get goosebumps and it feels really nice.
That happened to me mid set and I felt so much stronger. I repeated the song and it happened again at the same part and it just felt amazing.
How do I get it to happen again? Why do I feel so good and stronger when it happens?
I can't be the only one who has experienced this.

>>38074144
Thats "the zone" anon. You get super pumped and the adrenaline hits. Find more music and then throw them into a playlist. Dont use the same one over and over it will lose its effect eventually. What do you listen to?

>>38073091
A lot of inhalants for asthma are mild cns stimulants

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>QTDDTOT
okay

What are kcals as compared to just calories as listed?

How do I safely dehydrate myself for photoshoots?

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>>38073652
It's actually 142.881597 kg, but whatever.

>>38073661
No. An intermediate lifter is someone who did everything well (rest, diet, technique, proper discipline in going to the gym) AND he can't make any more linear progress. Sites like symmetricstrength provide a useful resource to at least ballpark whether or not someone is stupid/lying to us/lying to himself.

>>38074181
I listen to mostly rap. I like to torrent random albums I think will be good and I wont listen to them until I lift so its all new and fresh to me.
This is the song that did it, it either happened around the 30 second mark or the 2 minute mark. I remember it was right as the beat changed at bit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcV3jIqKznc

What's the best app to track what I eat? I'm currently using my fitness pal

>>38073008
Any of you doing Nuckols beginner? How do I add in accessories? Just whenever?

Best triceps workouts?

>>38074369
bench, overhead press, close-grip bench

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hey /fit/, so for the past few weeks or so i've been catching different women staring at my butt when deadlifting or doing squats, makes me feel uncomfortable as shit. I wear joggers, not even anything tight, just loose-ish joggers so it's not like i'm being provocative or anything, any advice? the fucking annoying thing is, when I catch them staring, they don't look away, they just keep staring at my butt, then casually look away when they want to, not all of them but this has happened at least twice in the past month, the rest just look away when I catch them staring, why the fuck are women allowed to get away with this shit, should I do something about it or let them mire? oh and I never knew girls liked big butts on guys.

>>38074297
>No. An intermediate lifter is someone who did everything well (rest, diet, technique, proper discipline in going to the gym) AND he can't make any more linear progress
No. An intermediate lifter is a relative term and is more referring to the type of training that is appropriate.

Some people don't have the option of 'optimal recovery'
>inb4 hurr durr my iron life tho you can make time
so after novice progression stops working within the confines of their individual recovery, they should move onto intermediate programming. calling them a novice because of technicalities and hypotheticals isn't useful.

>Sites like symmetricstrength provide a useful resource to at least ballpark whether or not someone is stupid/lying to us/lying to himself.
No, because the average of a given population doesn't dictate what kind of training is suitable for you.

Do it until it stops working (whilst keeping recovery up to the best of your abilities) and then move on to the next thing.

If it's still working, sites like symmetricstrength have no bearing on what to do next - you can use it to stroke your dick or motivate you to keep going. That's it.

>>38074389
Get used to it, buddy. Women love butts. Every woman I've dated, befriended or fucked in the past year has been obsessed with my ass and I only deadlift 5pl8 and squat 3. Sometimes I get groped just walking down the street.

My fiancé has her hand on it pretty much all the time, even in public

>>38074309
I generally listen to metal or hardstyle/dubstep. That kind of rap is a bit too slow for my tastes, like something I would listen to while doing cardio.

Something with some a huge drop or a heavy af bridge gets me in the zone. Check out this song. Drop @ 1:20
https://youtu.be/jB1c7S_Jtjc

Can you guys recommend some cooking sites/youtubers? My parents didn't teach me much, I'm trying to learn as much as I can

>>38074233
Aldactone

Are stomach vacuums legit or are the a meme exercise?

>>38074369
>>38074387
dips

can i lose weight only by eating less sugar and flour and running 5,5 km a day?
or I need to completely go on chicken+rice shit again.

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>>38074430
That song is a little too happy and upbeat for me, I'd imagine that you would listen to THAT song while doing cardio.
Dubstep isn't for me but I can definitely understand the appeal.

Are fat-burner pills a meme? Why or why not?

>>38074231
In nutrition they're used interchangably, though kcal = kilocalorie is the technically correct term.

>>38074548
READ THE STICKY

Calories in calories out. Eat under your TDEE and you can eat whatever the fuck you want (might not be healthy though), and you will lose weight.

Redpill me on pasta

>>38074590
Most of them reduce your appetite, which results in you eating less, so no, they are not a meme.

They have plenty of side effects though, so it is not a healthy way to go.

what's the best warmup? bike, running or elyptical?
Currently on a cut. also should I cardio after training?

>>38074607
IIFYM

What accessories to do while doing Stronglifts?

I'm currently doing 3x8 barbell curls and farmers walk 2xF.

Mostly because I enjoy them. I'm also not consistent so if I'm in a hurry I'll do just main lifts and leave the gym.

Is consistency for accessories important?

I was at my doctor this week and he told me to stop lifting heavy weights from a vertical position (standing or sitting) like overhead press, squats, deadlifts and so on, because of possible damages to the intervertebral discs, which would occur due to contraction.

He also told me I head a 'rounded back' (not sure if this correct english term) which means the angles on which the discs are pressured are sharper and thus the damages more likely.

What I took away from this is to strengthen back musculature by using machines.

He also told me to be wary of supplements, because some contain anabolics and pre-hormons.

Is his analysis correct?

>>38074640
Yes, always after. You'd rather have your lifting fuck with your cardio than the other way around.

The best warmup is foam rolling + performing the lifts with lighter weight.

>>38074645
Never listen to doctors. We at this Polynesian quilt weaving forum know best

>>38074645
why were you at the doctor? did he do an xray or something?

>>38074757
HIV medicine

>>38074757
No just general checkup, after not being to a doctor for ~5 years.
They took some of my blood to a lab to check if I needed vaccinations and stuff.

I'm a generally healthy feeling 20 year old uni student, not drinking too much, not smoking, rarely do drugs, some nootropics, try to eat healthy, etc.

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>>38074396
I see where you're coming from, but seriously, by this logic, I could go from novice to intermediate just by getting a different job. I believe you're right in a way, but I would describe someone you're talking about as a novice who can't recover properly. The reason for this is that a "proper" intermediate trainee has worked hard for several months and has probably learned all the lifts at least kinda well.
Someone who's been working out for a month or less, but can't progress because of outside circumstances has not.

Also, the reason I think that the existence of sites like symmetricstrength is justified is this:
When I was coming to the end of my linear progression, I was upping my squat weight by 2kg a pop, and suddenly, from one workout to the next, I went from 5/5/5, to 0/0/0. I never even stalled once before. I thought something was wrong with me, cut out all cardio, looked up Rip's opinion, which was that you should be coming to a soft stop to the end. 5/5/3, 5/4/3, things like that. I still couldn't do more than a rep from my next weight, so I started eating more and taking more vitamins, and moving around even less. Needless to say, I got quite fat.

After this whole ordeal, I just looked up strstd (at the time), saw that I was supposedly an intermediate, so I changed routines, and my numbers skyrocketed. At that time, that was quite useful to me, as it stopped an already shitty situation from getting even worse.

>>38074788
Sounds like a general doctor with a general advice. Maybe he is misinformed about weightlifting, but maybe your spine is really fucked up and he can see that without xray. However if it's that bad he should prescribe you some therapy to fix your posture.

If I were you I would self evaluate my posture and if there is a reason for concern I would go and visit a specialist. In my country that would be free if I would go to my doctor and tell him to send me to a specialist because I'm afraid of what he said about my back.

how can you tell if your hair is thinning? I shampoo and some hair comes out but thats normal how much is not normal? PANIC????

>>38073099
Reg parks is prolly better than SS for your purposes as it includes Rows. Deadlifts, Rows, Ohp and facepulls helped fix most of my posture/shoulder issues.

>>38074895
Do you use alot of products? You usually lose hair during the day (ive read up to one hundred?) but if you use hair products it tends to all come off at once.

I go to the gym several days a week but I wanted to start going swimming again as it's been a long time and it's really good for your stomach/core which is what I want to focus on.

I just want to know if it's better to go swim then gym or gym then swim and what stuff do you recommend doing whilst swimming?

>>38074866
>I would describe someone you're talking about as a novice who can't recover properly
but that's the point - it doesn't matter.

the more useful distinction is describing the trainee by the training required to progress - i.e. anyone who needs intermediate programming is an intermediate; no exceptions. I believe Rip even calls these people "situational intermediates" to give a more technical distinction.


and your situation of going from all reps to no reps is very specific - I've personally never seen it.

but regardless, it still fits within the
>do it till it stops working, then move on to the next thing

and had your lifts fallen short of the 'intermediate' bracket, then by your logic it would be appropriate to keep hammering novice progression - or conversely you could have fallen into the average 'advanced' bracket, which would then suggest you should use something with monthly progression for example.

the point is theres so many factors that effect strength gains and limitations, so comparing it to averages shouldn't be used to base any training decisions - only for general comparison for shits and giggles.

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>>38073008

Is it okay to purge if I have a really bad eating moment?

Hypothetically speaking let's say I made and consumed an 8x8 pan of brownies and that was all I was attempting to get out of me.

.... okay, I ate a 8x8 pan of brownies. It was delicious first came the binge, then came the purge. I rarely purge unless my body is telling me I need to throw up (ex: drank 3 liters of water in quick succession)

I am cardio hound ex-fat fuck who still gets the binging cravings and falls victim to them occasionally, but now I feel guilt for having these weak moments and usually can resist (fucking /ck/ and their 2 bite brownie recipe. It was too fucking good to resist.)

Sorry for the blog post, but the question stands: if what you consume is basically poison, is it acceptable to force it out?

Can I get a form check, /fit/?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsyNxPBm8JU&feature=youtu.be

>>38075105
film from the side can't really tell much from this angle

>>38075105
Looks good to me

>>38075105
Why are you using mixed grip at such a low weight?

Do you actually lose strength on a cut or do you get weaker because you have less fuel?

>>38074233

Don't eat in the morning, cut water the night before, have a couple short blacks in the morning before. Apart from that I wouldn't do much more.

A lot is up to the photographer to know how to use lighting to their advantage. I know a couple "good" photographers who couldn't shoot a "fitness" model to save their live.

>>38075178

Couple short blacks in the morning before the shoot**

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On week 2 of StrongLifts and i'm wondering if I should increase the weight every workout, or every week(?)

Are there equivalents for deadlifts and squats that don't involve standing up?

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How long does it take of not working out for my lifts to start decreasing? Two weeks?

>>38075212
Every week

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>>38075061
Come on mate, why wouldn't it matter?
If we only take this site as an example, I would give totally different advice to someone who's a "situational intermediate", versus someone who is a "proper one".

I would be much more likely to suggest posting videos, looking over their technique, talking over recovery possibilities etc, etc. You know, things that are often problematic with beginners. By the way, I totally agree that someone you describe should do an intermediate routine, so we're just arguing about semantics, really. All I'm saying is, I'd rather someone announced that they're one of the "situationals" when talking about it.

>do it till it stops working, then move on to the next thing
Yeah, that's supposed to mean two deloads, I never even had a proper one.
Also, IF my lifts had fallen short of the bracket. As it happens, they were exactly right (the brackets), which is what helped me quite a bit. I was actually in a highly specific situation, I compared myself to the averages, and THAT is what helped me overcome my problems. I'm not saying it's gospel, or that it should be toted as the alpha and omega of standards, but it's something to measure yourself by and, honestly, I doubt it's something that should be fought against.

>>38075104
>purge

That's called bulimia.
What are you? A 13 year old girl?

>>38075212
Do as the program says you stupid fuck.

>>38075105
Seems gud
Push your hips forward a lil bit earlier to avoid that awkward tilt

>>38075241
Depends on your lifestyle and your nutrition but mostly on how far in you were in.

If you squat lmao1pl8 then you can stay off the gym for months and come back and squat it right away again.
If you had respectable lifts (well after 1/2/3/4) then you can expect that shit to go down every week.


What is it with all this summer?

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>>38075170
That's kind of the same. Losing strength means not losing muscle, just not being at the top of you game.

You will actually lose muscle if you cut too fast, don't eat enough protein, or lift too high a volume.

>>38075241
Depends. For me, not lifting three days in a row means I'll most likely be weaker than I was last time. Shit sucks, but what are you gonna do?

I can barely overhead press 45 for 5 reps reeee

I had an exam today and only slept around 6 hours. I still want to go to the gym. Would it be beneficial to try and sleep for like 2 hours?

There is no routine thread so I think I will post this here.
Guys, I had an accident 3 months ago(unrelated to lifting) where I fucked up one of my meniscus and got a severe tendinitis.
Finally after much rehab and patience I can go back to the gym, however I can't do any leg exercises(other than walking and very light stationary cycling) nor lift heavy weights while standing up.
I was in my fourth month of SS I was squatting almost lmao 2plate, but now I can barely walk thanks to the rehab and lost all my strength.

My problem here is What kind of routine can I do now that I can't do Legs at all?

I had something like this in mind:
A)
Bench Press 3x5
Lat-Raises 3x8-12
Supinating bicep Curls 3x8~12

B)
Over head press 3x5
Lat-Pulldown 3x6-8
Hammer Curls 3x8-12
(everything is done seated or while laying on a bench)

But I feel that it's just too little volume, any ideas as to what to add remove or any other routines I could follow?

>>38075248
you're going in circles and you seem like you're still not getting it

>I would give totally different advice to someone who's a "situational intermediate", versus someone who is a "proper one".
you wouldn't need to - because the 'situational intermediate' is different from someone who's failing for other reasons. going over form and recovery to the best of their ability is a given and isn't dependent on whether they hit arbitrary standards or not - just because you hit the intermediate bracket doesn't mean your recovery and form was on point.

bottom line
>If a person cannot progress on a novice programme anymore to the best of their ability, they should move on to intermediate programming
NO MATTER where they fall on strength standards websites. it should have ZERO bearings on the decision.


>Yeah, that's supposed to mean two deloads, I never even had a proper one.
deloading is just generic advice that generally helps the masses around most reasons for stalling. you don't actually have to deload to finish novice LP.

and if you've never deloaded, how do you know you were done with SS? just because strength standards told you so?

>Also, IF my lifts had fallen short of the bracket.
exactly. the fact that it could have easily been the wrong thing to do, shows why it's not a reliable avenue. just because it happened to work for you, doesn't give any 'proof' of legitimacy.

I don't see how you're still arguing for this.

>>38075502
Allpros beginner routine (do lat pulldowns instead of rows, fk lower body movements)
Lyle McD bulking routine

These might be better if you want more volume

>>38075290
fuck off you moody roid cunt!

>>38075337
Yes.

anyone have that /fit/ recipe imgur album?

>>38075322
Keep at it. Even if you're stalling at a certain weight try to increase the number of reps. Also check your form is correct.

>>38075104
yeah, just don't make a habit of it

I just got home from chest and tricep day, part way through my left tricep became very weak, like i can still fully flex it but it feels weak and its harder to push, is my tricep torn?

When people say 1x5, is it 1 series of five rep, or five series of 1 rep?

>>38075322
Switch to 3x3 and keep upping the weight and up your cals.
If you stall there up your calories even more.

>>38075617
kek
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>>38075721
one set of five repetitions

>>38075718
More importantly, does it hurt?

>>38075687
http://imgur.com/a/5nbmA

Why not deadlift 5x5?

>>38075218
What the fuck

>>38075193
Das racist

#blacklivesmattermorethanyours

>>38075752
Why would you do it for more than one set?

You are aware that deadlifts are not some curl-like isolation exercise right?

>>38074769
HIV medicine? You mean a .45 bullet?

I'm eating 3 cans of tuna and two pieces of wheat bread in the morning around 6AM. I'm 235 pounds right now and trying to go down as much as I can. No deadline, but staying motivated.

With this breakfast, I usually stay satisfied until 12 or 3PM, when I get home from work. Is the breakfast too much? Too heavy? Can I readjust? What would an adequate diet look like for someone trying to lose weight and fat for the rest of the day. Thanks in advance.

>>38075752
Deadlifts are hard as fuck to recover from at heavy weights for a variety of reasons. Try it when you're pulling significantly over your body weight and see what happens.

>>38075751
No pain

>>38074644
Pullups, calf raises, side and front delt raises, tricep work, abs.

Accessories tend to make the workout quite long so reduce or skip them if you're fatigued or in a hurry. Consistency is preferable of course.

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>>38075542
Yeah, we're going in circles, but that's because you're not reading my responses.

I didn't say being and intermediate guarantees they did everything right, but they KNOW about those things. Going past intermediate doesn't happen without knowing you have sleep, eat, yadda, yadda. If someone fails after a few weeks due to outside circumstances without even reading SS or the sticky, then comes here and announces that he is an intermediate, that is pretty misleading.

>If a person cannot progress on a novice programme anymore to the best of their ability, they should move on to intermediate programming
In my previous post, I said that this exact statement was right. I just want them to say why, which I don't think is an outlandish request.

>deloading is just generic advice that generally helps the masses around most reasons for stalling. you don't actually have to deload to finish novice LP.
No shit, I should know, I did it my way. Also, Rip says to get off after two, that is in the book, and I tried to take seriously as a novice, reading an experienced person's advice.

>and if you've never deloaded, how do you know you were done with SS? just because strength standards told you so?
Strstd planted the bug in my ear. Changing routines and progressing rapidly is what proved to me retroactively that I had made the right decision. By the way, this happened after I deloaded with no result.

>it could have easily been the wrong thing to do

Well yeah, had I lifted 30 to 50 kg more (less) on every lift, I could have thought I was advanced (a novice). But guess what, that is a huge margin. Also, I never talked about proof, I put direct emphasis on that:
>I'm not saying it's gospel, or that it should be toted as the alpha and omega of standards, but it's something to measure yourself by and, honestly, I doubt it's something that should be fought against.

I'm still arguing for this because you've given me no reason to convince me I'm wrong. Also, I like arguing.

>>38075727
>>38075689
thanks famalam

I'm eating at 10% above TDEE, but I also probably overestimate my activity level so I figured 2450-2500 a day at 141 lbs was aight. Couldn't hurt too bad to eat more anyway I suppose

>>38074590
Most "fat burners" are just alternative herbal shit like ginseng which on their own have minimal effect on metabolism.

Then you have dnp which works but can kill you if you overdose.

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Is there any point in having both cable AND dumbbells flyes in your chest routine??Any pros of one over the other?

>>38074314
Excel

>>38074231
1 kcal = 1 Calorie (capital C) = 1000 calories (small c).

In nutrition nobody uses small-c calories, they're a uselessly small unit.

>>38075993
Cable flies are actually better. One of the few times free weights are at a disadvantage. The nature of having the resistance pulling out laterally makes is it so that you have continuous tension in your pecs, even at the "top" of the movement. With dumbbells, once they get to the top, you don't have that tension anymore.

Honestly, it probably doesn't matter which one you do. I would just pick the one you like and fucking do it.

>>38075993
I'm doing only bench press and meme press for chest and mine is solid af

>>38075993
Dumbbell flyes are a meme.
Just do cable crosses.

>>38073740
StrongLifts has its own app, if that happens to be your routine.

>>38075913
>If someone fails after a few weeks due to outside circumstances without even reading SS or the sticky
that's not a situational intermediate, that's just blatant ignorance. you think doing nothing is the same as "the best of their abilities"?

>I just want them to say why, which I don't think is an outlandish request.
its not outlandish - but you're moving further and further away from the point; i.e. using the likes of symmetricstrength as a gauge of what determines a 'situational intermediate', which is outlandish, and as discussed not useful because of specific situations.

>No shit, I should know, I did it my way
No, because you don't 'know' if you've quite finished LP. of course intermediate programming is going to work - it's easier, slower gains. if you go on advanced programming it's going to work too (assuming youre not ridiculously weak), that doesn't mean it was appropriate for you.

>Also, Rip says to get off after two, that is in the book
like I said, it's generic advice to the masses - it's by no means essential. if you read the book, his example of a well run novice programme had no deloads.

>By the way, this happened after I deloaded with no result.
so you did deload. so you were done. so you were evidently meant to go onto intermediate programming within the confines of your training and recovery.

strstd didn't have to tell you to do that. YOU may have needed it, that doesn't make it a useful tool in spite of all it's drawbacks.

>Well yeah, had I lifted 30 to 50 kg more (less) on every lift, I could have thought I was advanced (a novice). But guess what, that is a huge margin
yes. it is a huge margin. so is the variablity of human kind?

when I say it could have been different, I'm not referring to solely YOU. we're talking about literally anyone else on earth who would have had a different outcome.

>Also, I never talked about proof
let's not get too literal here - the point is you put it forward as evidence.

Is it bad to fap on my workout days?

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>>38076130

Discussing what the point is...
Okay.
We first started talking about two things
1) Someone who can't progress linearly anymore is an intermediate. Even if it's because of outside circumstances.

All I said to this was that they should at least mention those circumstances, because why on earth wouldn't you mention "Oh yeah, by the way, I can't recover fully because life".

2)Sites like symmetricstrength are/aren't bullshit

I put forward my example, and also said that you shouldn't trust it entirely, but it could influence your decision in a productive way. (Which it did for me.)

Your other points:
>his example of a well run novice programme had no deloads.
True, to some degree. It's in PPST that he says you should to two deloads, it's my fault for not specifying.

>so you were evidently meant to go onto intermediate programming within the confines of your training and recovery.
Not really, because I was supposed to get slightly worse, not lose all reps at once. I thought something was wrong, and I think I was initially right in thinking so.
Also, I 'know' I finished LP, because I didn't change anything aside from my routine, (and YES) strstd said I was intermediate, and my numbers went up. If we can/should rely on Rip's advice (general advice to the masses), why can't we rely on standard sites (general advice to the masses), if only occasionally, for a little bit, after all else has failed?

With all of that said, it was still my decision, I needed to have read all those things, I needed to know stuff, but strstd gave me an invaluable push, because AFAIK Rip doesn't talk much about concrete numbers, and that's exactly what I needed.

>yes. it is a huge margin. so is the variablity of human kind?
How is this an argument? Things are pretty general. If a male of a certain weight and age(with no obvious disabilities) can't lift certain weights, there's a good chance that he isn't in a certain part of his "journey of fitness".

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>>38076187
I have knocked down PRs right after coming out of the gym bathroom, where I knocked one out.
Take that as you will.

>>38075784
I have a balance disorder. My doctor gave me the ok to exercise, but I was wondering if there were alternatives I could do.

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What's a good vitamin and nute app?

Is pedialyte better than gatorade?

Can i recover from near renal failure(been drinking tons of water its yellow at times but comes out as little)
Can I get rid of tinnitus hearing loss and what seems to be a never ending ear ache.

What can I do to get rid of bursitis caused by a sharp strike to the knee

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>>38076130
Also:
>that's not a situational intermediate, that's just blatant ignorance
How many anons do you think only come here AFTER reading both the sticky and SS? I suspect not too many. If those guys start calling themselves intermediate because they saw your post and now they think they are, they're gonna get bad advice.

>as discussed not useful because of specific situations.
What specific situations other than the 1 (one) you mentioned? Also, if we're talking about people who have read both the sticky and SS, I think we can assume they wouldn't rely on standard sites if they're missing a leg, have cancer, etc, etc.

Also, people who have read those will also know about Rip's definition like I did, and will only go to standards sites
1) Armed with a non-insignificant amount of knowledge
2) After everything else 'canon' has failed.

how to kill baby fat on face?

>>38076562
1.
>"Oh yeah, by the way, I can't recover fully because life".
for like the 4th time, this doesn't change the advice given, and takes me back to the line
>to the best of their ability
if you ask are they recovering to the best of their ability, this covers EVERY situation.

someone who requires intermediate programming is an intermediate. not because strstd says so.

2.
>I put forward my example, and also said that you shouldn't trust it entirely, but it could influence your decision in a productive way.

no, because the fact that you couldn't progress on novice LP should have told you to move on. as I've said several times
>do it until it stops working, move to the next thing
>within the confines of your recovery

you were stubborn and needed an extra push, and strstd happened to tell you you were intermediate, so it all lined up. but at the end of the day, the website isn't designed to determine appropriate progression, it's just a comparison of how strong you are compared to others.

as discussed, it can easily be inaccurate with regards to level of progression, because shockingly, how strong you are doesn't determine your level of progression.

>If we can/should rely on Rip's advice (general advice to the masses), why can't we rely on standard sites (general advice to the masses), if only occasionally, for a little bit, after all else has failed?
you are using strength standards to determine appropriate programming, comparing it to generic recovery advice such as 'take a deload'. I won't even address why that's not a good point.

>because AFAIK Rip doesn't talk much about concrete numbers
I FUCKING WONDER WHY

>How is this an argument?
nice reading comprehension.

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>>38076733
By losing weight. Spot reduction is a myth, you can only focus on general, all-over weight loss.

>>38076710
You're better of seeing a doctor for all that shit you mentioned.

>>38076733
You CANNOT spot reduce body fat

Why don't people ever read the sticky?
Can anyone tell me?

>>38076720
>If those guys start calling themselves intermediate because they saw your post and now they think they are, they're gonna get bad advice.
nope. because you keep ignoring the fact we're talking about
>recovering to the best of their abilities

if they do something stupid like, say, use a strength standards website to determine what programme they should be on, they're gonna get bad advice.

>What specific situations other than the 1 (one) you mentioned?
the recovery 1 (one) is about as broad as can be. it can be age, sex, diet, sleep, job related, other physically demanding hobbies, genetics, individuals current level of adaptation and recovery through a lifetime of environmental factors.

and to put it into perspective and because you seem to need anecdotal evidence

I used strength standards as well for the sake of knowing just to know

I was well into intermediate while I was still happily moving a long on SS

by the end of SS I had my squat and bp into advanced.

I decided to use common sense and basic training principles to determine what I should do next, instead of progressing my squat and bench through advanced programming and my DL on intermediate.

telling people the likes of strstd are a good tool to help you is not useful, and the times where it works (your case) theres no significant difference, as the individual should have already identified what to do next.

the times where it doesnt work (me), it misleads people into doing something inappropriate for their progression.

so the easy way around this? don't fucking use it.

>>38076803
>>38076814

thanks brehs

Is cardio on off days excessive and damaging to recovery as everyone proclaims? I'm doing SL 5x5 on a cut and making decent progress. However, I would really like to maximize my time in the gym on my off days. Can I do a little bit of cardio without it affecting my recovery? Or is that strictly verboten?

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>>38076799
Well then I guess we just have to agree to disagree. I think not being able to recover for whatever circumstance is something you should mention when asking for advice. I'm not budging on that just because you said so, sorry.

>no, because the fact that you couldn't progress on novice LP should have told you to move on. as I've said several times
Rip has said (on the forums, though, not in any book) that if you suddenly go 0 rep, there's a problem. Would you have told him (or me in my situation) that he was wrong? If you were in my place as a novice, would you have immediately disregarded his advice? Because i never could get more than one rep with that weight, even after deloading.

>you are using strength standards to determine appropriate programming, comparing it to generic recovery advice such as 'take a deload'. I won't even address why that's not a good point.
I used it after reading everything I could, and after all generic advice, including deloads have failed. I never compared the two. Frankly, I DO want you to address why that's not a good point.

I completely agree that real, actual advice should come first, but after all else has failed, and not having read any concrete numbers relative to bodyweight before, I firmly believe that for someone who has read what you and I have read, standard sites can be useful.

I'm looking to join the Navy.

I have to do a shit load of sit ups, but sit ups are bad for you.

How do I train to get really good at sit ups without actually doing sit ups?

>>38077052
>but sit ups are bad for you

[citation needed]

My girlfriend wants to get into working out but heres the catch. She has an injury in one of her arms. She doesn't have full extension of the arm, and what she can do with one of her arms for example curls, she says it hurts her other arm.

How can we deal with this? I know nothing about working around injuries.

I'm eating 3 cans of tuna and two pieces of wheat bread in the morning around 6AM. I'm 235 pounds right now and trying to go down as much as I can. No deadline, but staying motivated.

With this breakfast, I usually stay satisfied until 12 or 3PM, when I get home from work. Is the breakfast too much? Too heavy? Can I readjust? What would an adequate diet look like for someone trying to lose weight and fat for the rest of the day. Thanks in advance.

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https://youtu.be/Ccw_GN7W1p0
Can I get a form check on my squat?
I've had immense amounts of trouble with it
Weight is pretty low for 4 months of lifting BC I had to deload due to shit(ier) form

I just feel like I've barely made progress on any of my lifts or body but then again I started from literally nothing

>>38077124
Holy shit dude.. 235lbs.. And you can manage eating a can of tune for most of the day now? What did you eat before you started cutting at breakfast? Genuinely curious because perma bulk here

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>>38076881
>nope. because you keep ignoring the fact we're talking about [best of their abilities]
Not really, I didn't forget it, I just mentioned that someone not perfectly informed (people who haven't read the resources) might think they are recovering well, when in fact they might not.

>the recovery 1 (one) is about as broad as can be. it can be age, sex, diet, sleep, job related, other physically demanding hobbies, genetics, individuals current level of adaptation and recovery through a lifetime of environmental factors.

>age
controlled for on the site
>sex
likewise
>diet
According to you, we're only looking at people who have that covered
>sleep
likewise
>job related
Should be obvious to someone who has read the resources
>hobbies
this too
>genetics, current level of adaptation...
Yeah, these are real

>Your example
I covered this exact scenario. It should only be used by people who know their stuff. You knew, so you didn't do anything stupid. I knew as well, I didn't do anything (that) stupid either.
Anyone who isn't a complete ego fool won't move on to the next routine if he can still milk the present one. I'm mainly talking about weeding out the ones who think they're more advanced than they really are.
I'll quote myself so you don't reply like you haven't been reading:
>only occasionally, for a little bit, after all else has failed
>you shouldn't trust it entirely
>we're talking about people who have read both the sticky and SS
>after reading everything I could, and after all generic advice, including deloads have failed. I never compared the two.

What's the advice for lunges, between barbell/dumbell/smith?

Any good routines for your core?

>>38077124

Enjoy your mercury poisoning.

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>>38076932
When I was cutting on SS, I biked my way to and from high school (12 kilometers both ways) on my off days without any problems.
2-3 x 20-30 minutes a week shouldn't be too much.

>>38077224
Speaking of mercury poisoning, how much fish do you need to eat to get a bad effect? I eat one can of salmon a week but I'd like to go to two

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Hello. I am doing a routine which is AxBxAxB etc and has chest on day A. Is there any benefit to alternating my chest exercises on this day? For example do DB bench press one session then bb the next and back to DB?

Anybody ever had their orthogonal readjusted
What was that like

>>38077247
Cool. Going to run today

>>38077209

Just do some ab rolls and planks

>>38077209
Squats and deadlifts will get you a rock solid core

>>38077284
Be sure to rest and eat enough protein though, scamp.

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If i can only choose one of this shoulder exercises, which one should i do?
>lateral raiser
or
>dumbbell seated press

>>38077356
I'd go with seated press. Its the closer version of the OHP which works your core, all your delt muscles and assists with bench press.


Lat raises are isolation. You can actually add two or three sets of lat raises to OHP imho.

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>>38077406
Thanks for reply
I'm doing compounds on mon-wed-fri which has OHP-deadlift-squat
While on tuesday and thursday i'm doing accessories which has also seated press and rear delt lateral raises.

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I started working out about 2 weeks ago and I noticed my left upper body getting less of a pump than my right, it also feels lIke it's weaker too. Is this normal or a am I fucked

I'm doing SL, and this week I will miss a day on Saturday and I won't be able to lift untill monday. How should I continue my routine? I'm doing AxBxAxx but this week will be AxBxxxx. Should I continue with A the next week or should I do B again? or A from two days ago then continue normally? I really don't know how I should do it.

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Is it true that if I eat tuna more than 4 days a week I'll eventually get mercury poisoning?

>You are more likely to read a post if it includes greentext

How much protein per kg if I'm roiding?

>>38077821
4g/kg

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Would eating 36 of these be bad?

No sauce or fries just the nuggets.

They are from Chick Fil A. The nutrional information doesnt seem so bad but I don't entirely trust what it says. Its really high on sodium but thats it.

>>38077847
That much?

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My right biceps is bigger than the left one,but i lift the same amount with each arms,it's even easier to finish my sets with the left one,why is that?

And i jack off with the left,shouldn't be this one with the more muscle?

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how many grams of protein per kg should I be taking?

pls no bully

I don't feel ab exercises anymore, whether I do curl ups or gym ring knee/leg raises. I reach the point of failure, but I don't feel like tension in my ab muscles.

Where do I go from here?

>>38078030
2-2.5

maybe more depending on what you're doing and a bunch of other shit

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I'm doing this routine. but it says to rest between days and I'm doing it 5 times a week.
Would be better to rest and do 3 days? or better 5?

Redpill me on horse meat

>>38078339
its meat from a horse

>>38078332
do 3 days - unless all the exercise you do is running and you're recovering fine, then there's no reason not to do 5

>>38078254
you mean other muscles are failing before your abs?

add weight or do something that isolates it more if you want to, like weighted ab crunches.

>>38078030
between 1.2 - 1.6, closer to 1.6 if you're cutting.

>>38077927
hypertrophy doesn't directly equate to strength. just keep training them evenly and it'll balance out.

>>38077848
it's fine

unless you eat crazy high salt content every day for an extended period of time.

>>38077821
iirc the 1.6kg/g was based on elite wl's, so you should be fine at that.

>>38077775
no

>>38077656
you should be fine to do the next planned A - unless you come back feeling weaker for whatever reason you can just repeat your last week.

it won't make a significant difference in the grand scheme of things

>>38077529
it's nothing to be concerned about. just make sure your form is fine and you're not leaning to one side for example and it'll even out.

>>38077254
no, it'll just take away progress from the main lift - which should be flat bb press

>>38077184
barbell just allows you to use smaller weight jumps than db

never use smith if you don't have to

>>38077129
bit hard to tell much from that video. generally looked alright except they were all high and got progressively higher

also
>learn to trim video
>learn to rotate video

>>38077124
track your calories is the main thing. cut down the calories if you're not losing weight.

>>38077118
depends on what the injury is. if neither of you know, get specialist help and avoid anything that aggrevates it while you wait

for example if she can squat, do that and a couple other exercises/cardio or whatever.

>>38078332
you're going to get more progress in and see results faster if you run 6 days and rest 1

Resting days are a MAYMAY just drink water and sleep good.

Question about preparing to bulk. Currently I am having trouble eating enough to gain weight. I have a small breakfast ether toast or two poptarts, then for lunch I can only eat a turkey sandwich before feeling full, and finally I eat a normal sized dinner. How do I get use to eating more? I am sick of being stuck at 125.

>>38073008
Alright, found out a shop that ships from europe to europe with the shit I want(roguefitness)

now I must ask, is there any difference between chalk brands? No idea if I should buy Bison Chalk(the one that comes in the ball) or Rogue Gym Chalk

Thanks in advance

>>38078355
Thanks my man,i appreciate that you take the time to answer the questions of peoples,wish there were more like you.

>>38078355
thanks for advice. I come from martial arts, and now I can't train hard because of some injuries. I think I can manage five times a week.

>>38078365
bullshit. rest days are important. of course, 1 day training and 6 resting is like doing nothing. but training everyday and gettin no rest will hurt you,
tak this advice or learn it the hard way.

>>38078355
right, thanks.

How fucked up is this training scheme?


Day A

Rowing (Half sets done with high grip (Traps) other set with lower grip (more biceps)).
Lat pulldown (Half/Half sets wide grip(standard)/close grip with palms to face).
Benchpress and Inclined Benchpress. Cable pulls for lower pecs.
With Dumbbells: Back delt raises, side raises, front raises, standing millitary press.
Repeat shoulder excericses with decreasing weights until failure.

Day B

Various Core-excercises (Wighted sit-ups, crunches, russky twisty,
bended side rises with dumbbells etc)

Biceps: Cheating Barbell raises: One rep is: Swing it up; Trying to hold it up
until failure and the bar falls down on your front leg.
Standard dumbbell curls with turning wrists up&down.

Triceps: Skull-crushers and triceps pull-downs.

Finnish up with rotatory cuff muscles in cable machine.

M: A with added deadlifts,
heavy weights, 3-5 reps /set
Tu: B with added squats. Heavy 3-5 rep sets
W: A with intermediate weights, high rep count
Th: B with intermediate weights high rep
F: A standard 8-12 rep sets, added deadlifts
S: B standard 8-12 reps with added squats.
Sunday: Rest

Is this plausible? Should something be altered? I am getting results though.

>>38078539

Pretty fucked up. Are you juicing?

Hey /fit/.

What are some good cardio exercises to do at home ? I know it won't ever replace running, but I can't decently go work out in this heat and expect to survive the experience, so I'm desperate for a temporary replacement.

>>38078628
Rope jumping.

>>38073008
Anyone seen experiences of people having better luck with girls/worse luck by owning/not owning an iPhone?

>>38078590

No. I get good gains but i sleep for like 11-13 hours a day.

>>38078628

BJJ taught me about circuits. those Brazilians are crazy. they really do a lot with little things and space.

>>38078651
I don't think a correlation exists. and if it does, you should avoid those bitches at any cost.

>>38078539
Fucked up?
More like pretty fucking stupid.

I have no idea where/how people like you come up with such idiotic bullshit.

Start with SS. After gaining some actual knowledge and experience in weightlifting and getting solid numbers on your lifts switch to PHAT or (PPL if you're into brosplits)

>>38078628
see >>38078650


If you're willing to spend money then buy a stairmaster.

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>>38078539

I see nothing wrong. Go for it.

>>38078713
How good is a stair master for cardio and lowering bf% compared to a treadmill or elyptical?

>>38078686

How is it stupid? It is 2 days between every exercise, i don't go full retard on the weights every day and i get good results.

>>38078681
That's really what I figured. Thanks

I have the time to train 5 times a week, should I do a bro split or full body?

>>38078539

Looks kinda like a modified PHAT programme. If it works for you it works. Maybe re-evaluate in 6-12 months and add some cardio, if those low weights high reps aren't some kind of substitute.

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This thread should be renamed to

"RETARDS WHO WON'T/DIDN'T READ THE STICKY - COME HERE TO BE LAUGHED AT"

98% of the dumb shit asked here could be avoided if people took 10 minutes to read the first fucking thread in this board.

>>38078355
I would've trimmed it but I'm on phone and cbf

I've thought that they looked quite high (I think I was just tired + trying to make adjustments to bar) but I don't know if I can actually squat lower, if I go ATG I get the bad kind of hip pain

>>38078729
it's more about the calorie deficit after accounting for whatever cardio (and whatever other exercise) you do end up doing that'll help you lose fat breh.

Emphasis on calorie deficit. Whatever cardio you end up doing won't matter if you still end up having eaten more calories than you've burned.

Should I shave my arm pits?

>>38078628
mountain climbers

/fit/ is there a reason to do under hand grip pull ups compared to over hand? I was told they work two different main muscles, under hand being biceps, over hand being back. Which should I do, or shoot for both?

>>38078921

Yeah if you are aiming for Bodybuilding aestethics you would alternate the muscles, for a intermediate lifters view it wont make a diference. But doing both is in no way (i)Bad(i)

>>38078921
I do both. Chin ups, pull ups and rows have given me nice back gains. I'll be switching to weighted once I buy my belt

>>38078539

Seems like a cool routine. Why the failure on the shoulders?

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>>38078944
>>38078963
Thanks for the snappy response anons, I'll work both into my routine. Have a wallpaper.

>>38078963
Which is better; wide grip or narrow grip pull ups?

>>38075877
Well, that's around 550 cals. If that's enough until lunch then that's not bad. But what about the rest of the day?

Whats the ideal rest time when you are lifting for strengh (ex: 5x5) ?
2-3 minutes?

>>38079053
I do SS and find that 5 minutes is the perfect amount for me. Not all of my lifts need that much time, but in general, it works.

>>38076623
Squats can be roughly substituted with leg press. For deadlift you'd have to do a bunch of different exercises.

>>38079080
Lunges mimic squats closer than leg press.

>>38076932
Cardio should be fine, especially on a cut. Don't do such intense cardio that you're fatigued the next day though.>>38076998

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I'm about two weeks into my job as a carpenter's assistant, and the muscles I've built from being in the gym aren't as effective as I had hope. How do I get stronger for construction work?

How do you get your family interested in getting in shape, /fit/?

>parents and immediate family were always fat
>grow up skinnyfat
>as young adult, decide to get in shape
>after 1.5 years of regular gym attendance and giving a shit about what I eat, I'm in better shape and everyone in the family knows
>they're clearly worse off for being fat - not even retirement age and the slightest physical labor can make them profusely sweaty and exhausted
>my suggestions at helping them either fall on deaf ears or get mocked in return

Wat do, /fit/?

>>38077118
A permanent injury? Or will it heal?

>>38079134
Watch as they slip into various life threatening diseases like diabetes, heart disease and morbid obesity. Then you can do push-ups in front of them as their bodies fail them.

>>38077656
A.

>>38073136

Some people are better at strength, some endurance.

>>38078339
Allow me to expand on what that useless anon wrote.

It's the musculoskeletal portion of an equine quadruped that has been approved for human consumption.

>>38079159
Any way to actually motivate them to change? They're not beyond saving. With proper diet alone, they'd feel much better for not having to carry around as much weight, to say nothing of what they could achieve with moderate exercise.

>>38079217
If you are what you eat, I want to be strong like a horse. Besides, from what I've read horse meat is made for horses that would be killed anyway, that way they are not going to waste

>>38078367
Get up early enough to have an appetite for breakfast. Don't feel like eating? Too fucking bad, eat anyway.

My macros demanded I drink 1400 cals of double cream earlier today so I'm currently all out of fucks for skinnyfags.

>>38078395
It's probably the least of your worries. Chalk is cheap; buy both brands.

Is being vegan a choice or are you born vegan? I was under the assumption there was no difference between being gay and vegan.

>>38078651
Bitches are so vapid these days that you'll probably gain a slight edge by having all the social media apps including Apple messenger or whatever it's called.

Pray you never meet a bitch shallow enough for this to make or break a relationship though.

>>38079229
>motivate them to change

Once they start getting heart diseases/diabetes/high pressure/whatever they might get motivated enough to change.

Or not. Some people don't change no matter what. They die fat and miserable.

>>38078660
Yeah, their penises are tiny.

So I'm still fat, just no longer obese, been going to the gym almost a year now. I enjoy lifting for everything but working my core but I want some abdominal definition.

I lift 3 days a week, do hiit (sprints on treadmill) 3 days a week, rest on sundays. I do plants, dead bugs and reverse crunches at home maybe once or twice a week.

Am I gonna have to just bite the bullet and work my core more if I want some abs once my body fat gets lower? I will probably have some loose skin but it's looking good so far, so I'm thinking I will need to focus more on my core.

So yeah, question anyway, would my hiit sprints on the treadmill be helping my core enough to have abs in conjunction with the once or twice a week planks, deadbugs and reverse crunches or should I, as a fat person, be hitting abs constantly?

>>38078792
Train 3-4 times a week and use the spare 2-4 hours improving yourself or making money.

>>38079138
>>38078355

She broke her arm when she was 11 by falling off a horse. The bone went through her arm and she has a huge scar by her elbow.


Should I just tell her to use low weight? I need opinions honestly

>>38078898
Completely up to you buddy, I use a hair trimmer on the shortest setting on my pits (avoids shaving rash and ingrown hairs) and I'm happy with the results. More aesthetic, makes deodorant more effective.

>>38079053
As long as you need. When I went to a commercial gym I'd hold my chest to count heart rate. Now I have a home gym and I don't give a fuck.

>>38079096
True, but that's a standing exercise which this anon is avoiding.

>>38079134
Admit defeat. You can't force anybody to make permanent changes unless they're sufficiently motivated to do so.

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>>38073008
Currently doing pic related. Will doing that startbodyweight routine along with this fuck my shit up, or no? I'm not doing the cleans, snatches, and crossovers if that matters. I just don't want to do too much.

>>38079265
Well veganism is generally synonymous with homosexuality, that's true.

OP here, I just ran 1 km in 4:10 like it was nothing. Holy fuck that medicine is great. Legs are sore as fuck now, considering I never do cardio.

>>38079316
If youre doing all your big compounds your core should be getting plenty of work. The only way to see abs is low bodyfat %.

>>38079129
>tfw working at a costco unloading/moving around heavy ass shit
>realized I have no functional strength whatsoever
>my 5pl8 deadlift that I was so smug about is worth shit in the real world

>>38079331
If its properly healed the only reason for muscular imbalance should be degeneration through lack of use. Start her on low weights and favour dumbbells so her dominant arm can't compensate.

>>38079129
Doing more contruction work m8 you just keep going then when youre old your body works like shit from all the years of carring heavy ass boxes of tiles hardwood and rolls of carpet source dads a carptner and his friends

Anyone here that can help a somewhat beginner with his routine?
>inb4 read the sticky(I have)
First of all, I do a lot of cardio since I'm a water polo player, I train in the water 3 times a week. I get gains but still I feel like if someone would push me over I would fall like a bitch and I shiver when i bench press(50 kg)

I would do the SS but I feel like it won't do me much, right now this is my schedule
>m legs
>t biceps chest
>w shoulder
>t triceps back
>f legs
>s triceps, chest, calvs
>s rest

Should I just do the SS?
I went back to working out 20 days ago and I've been doing the above. I've worked out at the gym for a year, but unconsistently, 3 months none, 1 month work and so on.

Don't think I'm bulk because of wp, I'm skinny, 190 cm and 80 kg.

What do you guys do when you gotta eat a bit more but just have no appetite? I'm not skelly, 200lbs at 6' and I'm trying to hit 3500 cal a day to slow bulk but some days I just really don't feel like eating my last meal.

I have some kind of indentations in the muscles on my right calf, and the muscle around there feels kinda, I'm not sure what word to use, sinewy? It doesn't hurt though, just looks weird as fuck.
Anyone have any idea what it might be?

>>38079650
>I would do the SS but I feel like it won't do me much,

Stopped reading.

>>38079685
Use protein shakes or weight gainers, or just add more calories to your food. Extra peanut butter in your shake or oats, grated cheese on your chicken, an extra glug of olive oil on your veggies or salad. Snack on nuts. The calories all add up.

>>38079650
>>38079650
If you're just starting to lift weights, start with SS or another beginner routine first until you get your form down and build a solid base for your lifts.

Are jumping jacks a meme? Or are they a legit exercise? I've been thinking about adding it to my warm up routine but I heard they can injure your legs on the long run.

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My shoulders hurt when doing low rows, is it just a form issue?

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Does anyone else get a boner from eating peanut butter?

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>>38079650
>I would do the SS but I feel like it won't do me much


Are you an alien?

>>38079441

It's been a humbling experience, honestly.

>>38079265
>>38079406
veganism is two things:

a) a tool to recruit liberal voters by appealing to "muh feels" just like the picture of that dead baby in the sand. it's just muh animal feels, muh environment feels in the case of vegans

b) A fad to make people feel unique and proud of themselves.

why/how does intermittent fasting work?

>>38079685
ill never understand you people. so much good tasting food out there.

Is it possible to lose bf% on a maintenance?

>>38080134
short answer read the sticky

long answer read the sticky you faggot

>>38079856
been doing jumping jacks consistently for 5 years in the military, no problems, it's been around for a long time. Same kind of thing with jump rope. It works and gets the heart rate up.

Posting
>>38080194

For additional answers, if any. Very interested in how much I would be fucking myself over if I filled up on broth and water throughout the day to lose weight, when I just feel bloated anyway?

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So I took a trip to snap city today while doing deadlift. I was going up and felt a huge pop in my lower back and immediately dropped the weight. It started burning and tightening up immediately so I went and got on the eliptical for 30 minutes. I've been stretching a good bit today and will continue to do so tomorrow So basically, where do I go from here? Do you think I slipped a disc? How should I treat the situation?

>>38080110
>why/how does intermittent fasting work?
Studies have shown that meal timing has little to no effect on overall weight loss. If you are eating -500 in 1 big meal, or 10 small meals, or in a 4 hour period it all means about the same for weight loss.

There is some light study showing that periods of fasting can help fix insulin sensitivity issues ("cure skinnyfat" so to speak).

At best, IF is a good mental trick to help you hit calorie goals, you adjust pretty quickly to the fasting window and are able to eat larger meals during the feeding window. This provides greater satiety and satisfaction helping you stick with the diet.

So why does it work? Because it helps people stick to their diet and the best diet is the one that you stick to.

>>38080288
If soup is a trick that helps you meet calorie goals, go for it. If you want to cut down on bloat try potassium as it counters sodium. In reality don't worry about it.

>>38080323
DOCTOR NOW. This is not a question for 4chan.

>>38080345
>If you want to cut down on bloat try potassium as it counters sodium.
Thanks!

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>>38073622
Thank you

>>38080353
Fug

>>38080323
nigga you're fucked.

You probably need to retire from liftin' forever

How does this look for hypertrophy? Would I be better off with Lyle's Generic Bulking? Have gained quite a bit of weight on Lyle's but am looking to shake things up.

AxBAxBx

A. chest/triceps/shoulders

bench press 5x5 incline dumbbell press 3x5 weighted chest dips 4x5 military press/push press 4x5 any tricep isolation 2x8

B. Legs/back/biceps

Deadlifts on Tuesday Squats on Saturday 4x5 Cleans 1x5, 1x3, 1x1 Bent Rows 4x5 Weighted Pull Ups 3x8 Calf Raises 3x12 Any bicep isolation 2x8

running 1 hour at 70% max. heart rate will help to burn fat and define muscle?

>>38080323
Let the pain be your guide. Consider an MRI if available and watch out for radiating pain, weakness, or numbness. Otherwise, start moving on it as soon as you can. Squat the bar, DL 135, make very goddamn sure to keep your spine neutral and still, and go up from there. This may be of interest: http://startingstrength.com/article/back_rehab_a_case_study

>>38080726
Why change if what you're doing is working?

>>38080726
>AxBAxBx
Pants on head retarded

I wouldn't move off of Lyles if you like it.
>>38080753
>running 1 hour at 70% max. heart rate will help to burn fat
Yes
>define muscle
When the fat falls off it reveals muscle, so yes.

>>38080774
>>38080778
Thanks for the response. I'm sorry but could someone point me to a routine with more upper body emphasis? Like I said, I've been doing Lyle for a very long time and loving it but sometimes I get bored and need variety.

>>38080844
>I'm sorry but could someone point me to a routine with more upper body emphasis?
What are your height/weight/lifts at?

If you want to grow your upper body, get stronger in your upper body.

>>38080861
I've been lifting since September. I'm 6 foot and 176 pounds with a body fat of 12-13 according to my calipers. I started at 150 this year. I started doing Lyle's at the beginning of May. I'd like to be 200 pounds by the end of the year. I'm paranoid about gaining fat so I've been very careful. Also should I be doing cardio on Lyle's generic bulk? My lifts are as follows.
Back Squat 245x6
Deadlift 240x6 (pathetic I know but you should have seen where I started at)
Bench 155x8
Overhead Press 110x10
I was considering going back on Lyle's (had a week off due to a music festival) but doing front squats this time around to shake things up.

>>38080992
I would stick to that routine until you hit a wall in your lifts. If you are progressing stick with it, I imagine you only have a few months left most until you hit a wall.

You can then look at texas method for strength or jump on a push/pull/legs routine. Just make sure you are always progressing.

>>38080992
>I'm paranoid about gaining fat
Well there's your problem dot jpg.

> should I be doing cardio on Lyle's generic bulk
You can if you want. Titrate to effect and avoid modalities with lots of eccentric loading (so: rowing, bike, sled good, running and kettlebells bad.).

>My lifts are as follows.
Film your lifts. (Not necessarily for us, but at least for yourself.). Get a belt. Use chalk and mixed or hook grip. Consider microloading your presses. Don't lift in squishy shoes.

>had a week off due to a music festival
this won't help either, esp if it's representative of your overall lifestyle. At least nap during the day.

>>38081059
Oh no that isn't representative of my lifestyle. I got diagnosed with colon cancer a while ago so the festival was a "well if I die at least I saw the killers and stars live" sort of deal.
I lift in Converse.
I'm slowly getting over the fear of fat, that's why my weight gain has been so slow but now I'm saying fuck and just eating properly. I gained 15 pounds in the last 3 to 4 months since I adopted that mentality and a hell of a lot more size and strength came with it. I had body image issues which stem from when I was (more like am, you never really leave it behind) an alcoholic and got this disgusting beer gut.

>>38081018
Thank you friend. We're all gonna make it.

It cut myself working to the point where I cant curl my pinky finger, I skipped work out today, was ut justified, would doing lifts with my pinky out on one hand be dangerous?

Today is OHP, DL and Rows

Does it matter if I eat kraft peanut or do I have to get the natural stuff.

>>38081158
you should probably start eating the natural stuff. its slightly better for you since it doesnt have a fuck load of added sugar in it.

>>38080197
Gonna try them from now on, thank you.

So Ive been lifting since november, went from 295 down to 258. It kind of plateaued for the last month and a half. Should I stop worrying about the amount of weight I can lift and just start cutting hard? I want to lose another 50 lb.

I'm a fat piece of shit thats been losing weight via diet only, and light exercise. Psychiatrist has been on schedule for weening off Clonazepam (Klonopin) and Cipralex (Escitalopram - SSRI). Does anyone else have any experience coming off these drugs, mostly in regards to energy and mental clarity?

Just starting to feel withdrawal from the clonazepam now, i'm hoping i can get through it with exercise as a distraction.

This is probably a really retarded question but whatever.
I'm trying to lose weight so I've joined gym and downloaded the my fitness pal thing.
So I've added my goal as losing .5kgs a week and my daily foods, but here's the thing when I get to my daily counter it has how many calories I need a day it then minuses my food, but then it ADDS for my workout, so now my required for the rest of the day is higher then the base amount?
Is this normal and in a retard who should reread the sticky or is my app being a goof?

>>38081481

I cut myself off of citalopram cold turkey two years ago. It felt like a 2 month hangover, but I just stopped taking it all together with no lowering the doses. I felt the same after I stopped taking it. This reply probably didn't help you, but I did my best. Sorry.

>>38081513
I appreciate the reply - I would rather know up front that there is a possibility of nothing changing instead of crushing disappointment when I found out that nothing changed.

>>38081445
At 258lb you are still pretty overweight and should be able to lose quite simply. What this means is that if you are thinking of making sweeping changes it's probably the wrong move.

What is your calorie goal and do you know that you are for certain hitting this every day? (The answer is no btw). Why?

>>38081622

I guess my question should of been, is it possible to gain a lot of strength while also meeting my weight loss goals or should I work on them one after the other?

>>38081654
Well it all depends.

A lot of early strength gains come from simply learning the movement and form/CNS adaptions. Fatasses also can make more strength gains on a deficit because they have lbs of energy strapped to them.

Gain a lot of strength? No. Gain some strength, I think so. You should still be on the up.

>>38073008

So I have snapping hip syndrome and i had some pain this morning and couldn't walk. Did some icing, foam rolling, stretches and the pain is gone right now. I usually would go and do couch to 5k right now, but I'm thinking of just going to the gym and using the elliptical machine.

Should I go and do that or skip my workout?

Ever since I started going to the gym my gas has gotten so bad. I fart all the time. Every day. It's been going on for a year now.

I just have terrible gas all the time. What should I do? My diet is just like veggies, meat, rice, and normal foods. No excessive gas making things like beans every day.

How is it that in these chips I bought, there is 0.0g of sugar in 1 serving, yet 0.7g per 100g? No sugar is listed in the ingredients either, so what is going on?

>>38081696
This is the worst place to ask for injury advice

>>38081708
Swap to slower releasing protein like quark and casein. That seems to work. Mix up your veggies too.

>>38081708
Beano worked wonders for me. I was in the same boat as you. Literally everything I ate made me gassy but beano has knocked my gas down to 1/4 what it was

Is PPL twice a week an ok plan for faster strength gains? I assume as long as you eat right, rest well and stay consistenr it'd be beneficial right?

>>38081856
It depends where you are now.

>Beginner:
You should be adding weight to the bar every workout
>Intermediate:
You should be adding weight to the bar every week
>Advanced:
Stop lying to yourself.

>>38081867
How much weight? 5-10kg? I would say I'm advancing at roughly 5kg a week

>>38081989
What is your height, weight and lifts.

How do I quell hunger? Trying to cut for the first time, really sucks.

>>38082047
Caffeine

>>38082047
Lots and lots of water.

Substantial amounts of veggies like cucumbers & broccoli also help feeling more full after every meal.

>>38082138

How do you suggest I prepare them? Raw?

>>38082051

Kind of counterproductive, I want to sleep soon to ignore this hunger but if I take caffeine won't I have to stay up longer? Also, what kinds of caffeine do you guys prefer? Coffee?

>>38082288
>Also, what kinds of caffeine do you guys prefer?
Black coffee, green tea or just over the counter 200mg do the trick.

If you are about to sleep but hungry I would look into IF. Basically gets you to back end your meals so you go to bed full, you can drink coffee during the fast to make that doable and your body adjusts very quickly to the fast anyway.

Weak fag here, scored a 90 on the ASVAB and intend on getting an intel job in the chair force. I'm really a weak faggot though. Been doing pushups the past 3 days but the doms are killing me, cant even do 5 now.

Should I forget push ups and do Bench, Shoulder, & dumbbell press instead for my noob gains, or should I just focus on doing regular push ups? Thx.

What should I do with my STEM degree? I don't know what to look for to maximize any gains.
>chemistry

can a 15 year old have neuropathy? Brother has been saying that his left foot has been randomly tingling sometimes for the past two weeks, he also said that sometimes he gets a little sharp pain in his fingers. He is overweight and plays video games for hours. Im really worried about him, but I was told that he is way too young to have neuropathy, so im confused. and yes I already ordered a blood glucose meter.

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Does fish oil go bad? I never really bought into buying actual pills for omega oils but they're on sale where my girlfriend works and was thinking of trying some.

The thing is that only the big 100+ count bottles are on sale, is it worth buying that much at once?

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>>38073008
My hands are getting destroyed. Is it time for fingerless gloves? Any recommendations? my handshake feels like sandpaper.

rolled my ankle today, im thinking it might be sprained, at what point should i got to the doctor?

Is it normal that I'm always thirsty even though I drink around 8 liters of water a day and my piss is clear? I also always wake up extremely thirsty even if I drink a lot before going to sleep.

>>38084229
Do you use chewing tobacco or smoke by chance?

>>38084386
No