Let's be serious for once

>>38051534
There is a subconscious recognition of what is natural.

You can roid and look fantastic to women. Once you pass the natty limit, you will get less and less attractive.

>>38051593
Zyzz pre roids was the natty perfection yet some people claim Brad to have the perfect body, why?

>>38051780
because people have personal taste

I like a mix of women. I like redheads, but also Asians. I have room in my heart for titties big and small. I wouldn't mind a tall amazon gf to beat me up, but I'm still down with qt short gf who I can OHP

My gf and her giant tits prefers klokov style strong men. Random girl I fucked has little A cups, which I enjoyed, and dates a skinny twink

>>38051534
>lifting for girls
what are you a faggot?

>>38051844
I would be a faggot If I lifted for men, not girls.

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How long would it take to get to tyler durden mode? Maybe a year of solid lifting? I just started last month btw. I'm 5'11, 168 lbs.

>>38052112
Lift for yourself.

>>38052123
Diet man, diet.

>>38052461
Well 60% of my kcals are protein..

>>38052112
>being this new

>>38052123
Hell you could get there in 8 months if your routine and diet are on point.

>>38051534

Girls literally don't know what they want

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>>38052112
>Not lifting for yourself

kys

It's because of the face

Face

Face

>>38052123
>5'11
Not gonna make it.

>>38054619
brad pitt is 5'11

>>38051534
You need a tan year round to pull this look off.

>>38051534
"every teenage girl back in the day"

>>38052123
SS+GOMAD

>>38051780

Some people enjoy having others piss on them. Some guys get hard as fuck for fat ugly girls. You like what you like. There's no objectivity in this and while there may be a norm there's always going to be outliers.

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Coming from no muscle mass at all on a 6'4 frame is not as easy as I thought it would be.

A whole fucking lot of work left to go, but I am looking forward to it.

>>38051534
There was time when I thought he looked ripped, now he looks like a skinny bitch.

>>38051534
Women dont give a fuck about physical appearance if you have charisma and power

>>38052581
and just how many calories are you eating?

I think its the most balanced body type. Too skinny and you look like a bitch, too ripped and you look like a tryhard. Certainly there are girls who go for these extremes, but ottermode is the safe bet.

>>38057338
that shit's not even ottermode, it's makeup mode

>>38051534
i would 100% prefer brad over zyzz. zyzz looks like a mutated freak, brad looks like a normally natty fit male human

>>38057326
-500 deficit so about 1800

>>38056405
ayy lmao

>>38056405
ayy lmao

>>38052123
Closer to fat Edward Norton mode.

>>38051534
The body you posted belongs to a famous person with a lot of wealth. Yes, every women would prefer him over Zyzz. Now talking stricktly about the way their bodies look, I know this is a crazy suggestion, but different women prefer different kinds of builds. Sorta like some guys prefer busty blonde chicks and others petite brunettes for example. Doesn't mean other people have not chance but in their head it's what they prefer. The only thing that's really important is low bodyfat to show your muslce definition. Although some women really don't give a fuck since you see most people with clothes on for the most time. They don't really base all their choices on physical appearance when naked. The way you dress, move, talk and behave is all very important.

TL;DR: It's not that simple faggot

>>38052123
lower your BF%

>>38056405
ayy lmao

>>38051780
>yet some people claim Brad to have the perfect body, why?

Marketing. I think that anyone's physique is enhanced in the mind of the observer if it's in the middle of the most ultra-cool alternate reality that Hollywood can crank out. Brad is cool as fuark, no question about it.

>>38051534
What's a realistic estimate for his height/weight here?

>>38051534
Wonder how much he weighed here.

>>38051534
Every girl has different ideals. Would that body be attractive if not to a majority of girls, to a large number? Most likely.

But every girl is different and so are their tastes. The girls I know don't really go for buff guys.

>>38051534

If asked, most girls wouldn't even be able to explain the difference.

>>38061560

5'11, 150-160 lbs

Plus, it's a conditioning thing. Women want a guy who is viewed as desirable by other women. This puts Brad Pitt at the top of the food chain by reason of self-fulfilling prophecy. Nobody outside of /fit/ probably even knows who Zyzz is unless they met him personally.

>>38056405
ayy lmao

Fame >> body, face, frame etc.

They chose Brad because he is a well known celebrity and Hollywood actor

>>38051534
His name rhymes with Chad
I'm sure you're pretty mad
that girls just want to bang
the dude with the body of Brad
I'm sure it wouldn't be bad
to never be sad
and have the body of Brad
so give up on the Zyzz
and starve yourself for this
you'll be thankful when you have had
the body of Brad

>>38058654
In what movie was he fat ?

>>38062164
More than that, I'm 6'0" 165 (and lean) and don't look nearly as big

>>38051534
His lifts cant be that much worse than zyzzs. According to the routine Pitt could bench over 2pl8. I dont know a ton about zyzz but I doubt he ever got to 3

>>38063237
>that physique
>big
Don't delude yourself, anon. He's obviously got a pump and it's a flattering angle with great lighting .

>>38057460
So you eat 270 grams of brotein. Thats retarded.

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The plaque that was attached to the Pioneer space probe has a picture of a man and woman on it. NASA spent millions on research to figure out the most fuckable male and female bodies and put those on the plaque.

They used science so you can trust them. Pic related.

>>38051534
He looked better in Troy

>>38063267
Zyzz had a pretty good deadlift iirc, he probably could have benched a decent amount if he'd worked at it.

>>38063237
nah. he's around 155-160 pounds. his shoulders are what make the physique so well-known. you can't have that physique without the shoulders.

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>>38053066
>reacting to obvious nestled bait and telling people they're new

>>38063293
Confirmed for not making it.

>>38059334
Should I cut another 15 lbs?

Op sounds like a closeted homo with a clear preference in a specific male's archetype and who doesn't understand why the average woman doesn't share the same preference.

>>38056405
ayy lmao

>>38063422
at least i know im above average cock

>>38051780
Becuase zyzz looked like a poo in the loo

>>38056405
Here comes dat ayy lmao

>>38065868
nigga you should cut until you're no longer fat

>>38056405
ayy lmao

>>38063461
He had to suffer to get that body.

>>38051534

Women are incapable of ignoring the fact that its Brad Pitt in the picture, that he's famous / rich and that all of their friends would be impressed by them being seen with him.

They would still like a guy who looks like Brad Pitt, just not as much.

>>38051534
It really varies from person to person. What I mean by that is some people are meant to be ripped, some aren't. I know plenty of people that look ridiculous because they can't pull off the shredded look. Brad Pitt looks like he should be that size. It fits him. It's attractive.

Some people are meant to look like Zyzz. Fits them. Is attractive.

Just like how some women look good with huge butts, while others it's nice if it's just average size but amazing shape. Same with boobs. It just varies from person to person

oh, also, obviously face accounts for about 90% of attraction, so. Yeah

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Brad Pitt in Troy is best Brad Pitt desu

It's because he has te perfect medium (for normie standards, dont get triggered) ammount of mass to appeal to every taste. He's big enough to not bee and ungry skellingotn and not too big that it looks unnatural. Lots of girls will like them more muscular and others lots of girls will like them less muscular but all of them can agree that is a good ammount of mass

>>38051534
Because he's a handsome millionaire Hollywood actor. If his head would be on a skinnyfat body they would still adore him. Status plus money trumps looks.