Is 17% body fat too fat to see abs or what?

>>38005792
abs is visible at 17% if you work abs.

>inb4 abs made in the kitchen meme

abs to an extent are part diet but you still need to work them to make them bigger like any other muscle group

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>>38005848
I'be seen 2 different doctors and a gym dietician and all 3 tell me that this shit on my stomach is lose skin from losing 65 pounds in 5 months, are they legit or what? Also if it is skin how am I ever gonna see abs?

>>38005914
yeah senpai they seem right. Thats a lot of weight in little time, nice job on that brah.

You shouldn't worry about abs and you should instead worry about getting rid of the loose skin surgically. That skin is probably blocking abs from being visible.

Can you get a frontal pic of it like in a mirror or something?

We're all gonna make it

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>>38005955

>>38005997
oh thats nothing brah. you dont need surgery. just keep lifting and doing cardio and you'll be fine

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>>38005955
Also I literally just had dinner so my guts a bit bigger than usual

>>38005792

Depends on how you carry fat genetically but id say 17% is a no go for visible abs

>>38005997

That's definitely loose skin, your abs will never see the light of day without horrible expensive surgery (and even with it, probably still not, and you'll have hideous permanent scars) Welcome to my world as an ex-fatty :(

>>38006069
Basically everyone tells me that if I bulk enough it will fill in the skin, I'm already seeing it in my arms and they were fat too

HOW ABOUT YOU FOCUS ON WHAT YOU SEE IN THE MIRROR INSTEAD OF FOCUSING ON NUMBERS???????

>>38006124
Because when the last time you werent fat was pre middle school and your a college sophomore now it's hard to remember what it feels like and looks like not be fat

>>38006085
dude u look really great i can only see the problem in the one where u are grabbing it, lift hard and eat well amd i will be good to go in a yeat i promise

>>38005914
You will never have normal looking 'abs' sorry mate, better focus on being 'strong' like half this board

>>38005792
Visible abs (without doing serious ab workouts) will generally only start for form around 15% they will become defined sub 14% and will be completely detailed by sub 12%.

>>38006177
Is the zyzz routine extreme enough for abs or no?

>>38006069
This isn't necessarily true. What was your starting and ending weight. Mine was 236 and I ended up at 168 at my lowest and there was no loose skin. It has to do with the proportion of your mass to the mass lost. If that's half your body weight it's most definitely loose skin. If that was only 25-30% you're probably fine and bulking up with lean muscle will definitely help that

>>38006349

350 and 170, there is no hope for me unfortunately

>>38006349
I was 307 in August 2014. 270 in February 2016 and now I'm 207-211 (not sure) also the woman at the gym mea sured me with callipers and said I was 15-17 % because two different systems said two different things so she averaged and said it it was like 16%

>>38006444
You aren't me

>>38006549

Yes I am

>>38006565
You aren't OP

>>38005997
>>38006014
Just keep working abs cut a small amount and keep at gym. You'll be fine.

>>38006643
How many pounds should I drop?

>>38006444
If you're still young then put lotion on it and keep your skin healthy. Should tighten up fine soon if it hasn't already

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>>38008710

lol, no it wont.