You want to do roids you mean?
Because if you want to stay natty you gotta train for strength bro, even in the higher rep ranges you need to constantly get stronger to grow.
>>37980539
no i don't want to take roids
but I don't want to continue lifting with the powerlifting philosophy, either. I don't care about increasing my weight on the main lifts and I don't want to do the back squat instead of the healthier front squat, just because I can squat a bigger weight that way.
I want to gain muscle and be healthy.
>>37980572
But size and strength is only really separate for a novice. Most bodybuilders are decently strong, and many mr olympia winners competed in powerlifting.
Powerlifters spend a lot of time in "functional" exercises to improve their main lifts, while bodybuilders spend more time on looking good.
You need to consistently improve your strength in order to grow in size, even if you do it in the 8-12 range (in practice it doesn't matter what range you choose though, you get stronger at the range you train).
>>37980636
i'm not saying i don't want to gain strength anymore. I just want a program that is more geared towards aestetics than The Texas Method or whatever intermediate powerlifting program is recommended
PHAT and PHUL seem pretty good. I'm thinking of doing a version of PHAT modified for slightly less leg volume.
>>37980694
You realize that neither SS or TM are particularly powerlifting-oriented right? They sway more towards that than bodybuilding, but there's many more specific routines out there (dietmar, sheiko, cuckols, smolov).
TM can also be tailored A LOT. It's just a method, not a routine. Check out PPLxUL on fitsticky.com. It's probably what you're looking for.
>>37980636
>>37980539
ignorant fatty ss victim pls go
>>37980481
do PPL (push pull legs)
typical exercises are these in 4 sets of 12-15 reps each
Push
Bench
dumbbell flies
dips
crossover
db overhead extensions
cable pushdowns
tricep kickbacks
shoulder extensions or overhead press
pull
pullups-chinups-pulldowns
rows
trap shrugs
dumbbell curls
hammer grip curls
legs
squats
lunges
calf raises
or machine based (leg extensions,curls,adductors-abductors-glutes,gastrocnemius machine)
leave a day between each.Warm up with 15 minutes of cardio before working out and do 2-3 sets of crunches and back extensions in the end of the workout.Stretch in the end as well.
good luck
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>>37980739
>>37980736
thanks guys
>>37980572
>healthier front squat
what
>>37980792
well, the back squat is very often done with improper form and the front squat is almost impossible to do without proper form
if you want to minimize your risk for lower back injuries, you should do the front squat
Anyway I want to stress out that volume is fucking necessary if you want to make gains, 3x5 twice a week ALONE does nothing but a slight strength gain for some months
>>37980481
3x5 warm up sets + 5x5 sets = high volume, bad news 4 u