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Who who you lift for?

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GF, Crush or just your goal women.
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>>37907357
Myself, more specifically, my health and strength. Aesthetics are secondary.
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For you my king.
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>>37907357
Heart crushed by getting lied and cheated on after 4 year relationship.
Just lifting to attract some sluts.

Pic related, me and ex
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>>37907412
>flip
Hohoho
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I was fat as a teenager.
Im doing it for myself, to not be ashamed of going at the beach.
It brought the women game to a next level though , no doubt, confidence and better looks come added with it.

I was blind before lifting , literally blind.
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>>37907412
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>>37907357
<- this
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For qt Northern Europeans
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>>37907417
half thai, half vietnamese
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>>37907445
>getting cucked by this
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>>37907463
she actually started modelling and it seems she's doing good so far
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>>37907412
holy shit asian girls are ugly
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To see woman cry.
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>>37907357
my crush and football

wish me luck guys
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>>37907488
>she actually started modelling and it seems she's doing good so far
yeah I heard they are paying top dollar for sock models lately

quit dirtying the pool. steer away from this degeneracy, wtf is wrong with you that girl is objectively 5/10 max
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Strength and aesthetics
Even if I'll get cucked I will have a chance to get into military
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>>37907412
>lifting for random whores and not being intrinsically motivated to do it for yourself
Prepare for more heartbreak if you keep doing things for people who don't give a shit about you let alone even know you.
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For myself mainly, and being the face of my business.
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>>37907412

She's cute

You look like you're balding though. That sucks.
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>>37907502
Ohio: what a shithole. I was born in steubenville and am not proud of it.
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>>37907511
>quit dirtying the pool. steer away from this degeneracy, wtf is wrong with you that girl is objectively 5/10 max
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I lift for the Emperor
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>>37907535
Not that guy and I lift for myself but I get a massive amount of motivation from thinking about attracting a women with a hobby I love

And why would you want to remove that motivation? It's not the source of it, so don't break it
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>>37907357
I guess overall I train for vanity.
And in doing so I train for myself and others.
Make myself healthy, fit and strong.
Make other men feel intimidated by my presence alone.
And to make women feel weak when I walk by.
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Not sure if i got your point, but i lift a lot for social status and ego.

I want to be considered chad, even when im a complete faggot.

I want guys to respect me and think highly of me, even though i didnt say a single word yet.

I dont care that much about getting laid, but knowning that girls and guys alike mire my asthetics and view me as an alpha male whenever i go out to public feels me with happines and joy.

I want to attract hoes in the club and dump them afterwards and hang out with that shy cutie instead.

I want to deny the chads that feel like they should be friends with me, just to hang around with that beta cuck, leaving the chads with confusion.

I want to get hired by that female boss, not because im highly skilled, but because she finds me sexually attractive.

I want to have a gf, that fears she might loose me, because people with bodys like mine are rare to find.

This is what i seek. Call me a faggot, call me a douche.
But it is what makes me happy, and made me turn 180° from beta cuck to some semi chad (and hopefully alpha chad in the coming years).

Stuff like health benefits are all good things, but they are not my main concern.
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>>37907511
Wtf, not OP but she's quite pretty. Easy 7/10.
Eternal virgin detected.
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for a muslim qt
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>>37907579
>Muslim
>wearing a bra
Don't you mean Arab m8?
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>>37907551
But man,he is right.
This girl is 5/10 max.
Stop feeling sorry for a ugly cheating whore.
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>>37907357
Guys I'm really worried I don't know where else to ask.

>really like this girl for months
>finally start talking to her
>go out a couple of times
>yesterday we ended up in my bad
>taking our clothes off
>super hot
>Go to get condom
>condom falls to the ground on the dark
>struggle for 2 minutes looking for it
>Lose boner
>found it
>boner doesn't come back
>awkward I'm sorry this never happens talk
>making out again
>nobonerfound
>apologize
>Rinse and repeat two more times
>she tells me its ok
>I'm going to see her friday again
I'm really scared of two things, why the fuck was my dick not working this is what worries me the most. And the other, will this girl actually think of me as shit from now on?

This has only ever happened to me once before and it was after breaking up with a gf, started talking to new girl and fucked one in between which is where this happened, it was 2 years ago and i was fucking drunk.

Please any word of advice would be great I feel like shit right now the girl of my dreams was in my bed naked and I couln't perform I want to kill myself.
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>>37907535
Lifting gives me a lot. The new motivation is just to look better again. I just want female attention and some succ. Something to battle this new loneliness.

>>37907544
Yep she was, but thinking about what she did makes me want to punch in her teeth
Shit hairline since forever. Have it from my fathers side. Both grandfathers and my father weren't balding till their fifties so I think I'm doing good.
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>>37907563
>just lifting for sloots
Were his exact words. Lifting for yourself will naturally lead to attracting more and more of the opposite sex and I agree that it's a great feeling, but it shouldn't be your primary focus.
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>>37907614

Maybe style you hair differently then?
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>>37907614
> but thinking about what she did makes me want to punch in her teeth
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>>37907599
>>making out again
>>nobonerfound
>>apologize
>>Rinse and repeat two more times
>>she tells me its ok
>>I'm going to see her friday again
>I'm really scared of two things, why the fuck was

go get cialis or viagra from a doc, so you don't stress about this. no need to keep taking it.
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>>37907599
>I feel like shit right now the girl of my dreams was in my bed naked and I couln't perform I want to kill myself
Sounds like dropping the condom triggered performance anxiety. My advice is don't worry too much about it, next time just don't fumble the condom and you'll plow her to high heavens.
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>>37907637
I think his hair looks fine the way he has it styled. IMO IMO
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>>37907551
it might be because I exclusively date white women, but I seriously don't see anything special in her at all.

just generic sushi serving asian mutt. Nice teeth and smile, I guess

different strokes or whatever, but get over your fetish dude. it isn't healthy and the girls you date will always wonder if you love them for who they are or if you are just feeding your yellow fever.
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>>37907579
>Absolutelyharaam.jpg
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>>37907357

I want the Ancient Greek Philosopher aesthetic.
I like talking and reading philosophy, so I may as well look the part.
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>>37907599
Do cardio, get relaxed, do things slow, tease her and get her worked up
Honestly, it sounds like the condom drop got you into a loop of anxiety
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>>37907637
got any recommendations? srs pls
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>>37907412
BLACKED
THAID
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>>37907488
>that
>model
Ok
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I haven't seen her in almost 5 years. I'm sure she doesn't even think about be anymore but I think about her every single day.
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>>37907697
A fade + fauxhawk would probably look ok. It'd make your temples look less round.
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>>37907357
For myself. No, that's not a fucking meme. Men should be fucking manly.
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>>37907412
Sorry bro. I know I'm just another Mongolian origami shitposter.. But I want you to know we're gonna make it. Just fucking crush it
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>>37907500
this is amazing, I don't even hate women but why does seeing whores suffer make me feel so good?
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For my Stern von Arika.
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>>37907579
hahaha
> that nose
> that face
> those eyebrows
> high waist suit
> high waist suit
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>>37907724
thanks man, gonna look into it

>>37907740
thank for your support breh
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>>37907550
Your not wrong fuck ohio
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>>37907649
Is it possible to get that stuff without seeing a doctor? Isn't Viagra like really expensive?
>>37907658
I thought so as well but how do I stop thinking about it, yesterday I felt like shit and only talked about it with the girl and making things even more awkward.>>37907695
Thanks for answering guys, it has made me feel a bit easier. This is actually one of my worst nightmares and it fucking happened, i'm truly bummed about this since I really like this girl and this shit might ruin it.
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>>37907357
Because after 2,almost 3 years of not having sex I'm starting to feel like the old virgin shitter I was.

I also am 21 and I've only fucked one girl in my entire life wich is my ex,so yeah,shit sucks bros.
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>>37907917
Pls respond
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>>37907917
>>37908084

(you)
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>>37907614
>Shit hairline since forever
you're still in the denial phase, that's cute.
hope on finasteride to save whatever you have left, before it's too late.
you will regret not doing this in 5 years when you're a baldlet.
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I lift for strength mainly, so I don't rupture a disc in my back when I'm like 40 from being skinny picking shit up. But a part of me is vain and wants to look good aesthetically, although I don't want to attract a woman who only likes my looks, but I don't want to be skinny fat at the same time
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>>37907575
>I want to attract hoes in the club and dump them afterwards and hang out with that shy cutie instead.

>I want to deny the chads that feel like they should be friends with me, just to hang around with that beta cuck, leaving the chads with confusion.

Not sure if you'd do those things out of spite towards alphas, or to try and help betas- but you're doing God's work, anon.
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>>37907412
What the fuck, your ex looks like my ex of 3 years who also lied and cheated on me.

Obviously not the same person cause mine was a piece of shit flip, but let this be a lesson to us both. Girls that look like this are fucking cunts.
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>>37907412
DELETE THIS
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>>37907500
I don't understand why she decided that submitting her story on an online tabloid would be a good idea? What was she trying to achieve? Did she think that men would try to approach her after reading the article? Or that Matthew would drop everything in his life and take her back?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2263518/I-left-love-life-I-thought-I-better-Now-Im-childless-42.html
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>>37907357
I lift to get stronger and healthier and because i do sports, already got a decent gf anyway.

Not everyone here is a virgin :^)
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>>37908084
this nigga aint me lol
>>37908161
nope you fucking cuck
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>>37907575
>loose
>bodys
>asthetics
>happines

You are a faggot and a douche
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>>37907357
My crush who rejected me a month ago
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funny thing I started lifting because of my highschool crush, which I haven't seen in well over 5 years and it worked for the 1st year or so.

but now I honestly don't even think about what drives me to the gym, I just do it, I feel like shit when I don't.
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>>37907357
My waifu.

3DPD my friend.
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>>37907412
She's infront of you in every picture.

The only one with you in front she blocks your face with her hand.

Pure attention whore.
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>>37907412

the fire in your eyes was never there
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>>37908754
g-guys people are just being ironic when they talk about 2d waifus r-right?
sure these people don't exist for real on /fit/ r-right?
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>>37908788
Nope. I exist.

Excuse my shitty mirror and unkempt beard. I got this T-shirt for my upcoming Power Lifting meet.

3D is garbage. I take great pride in knowing that I am not attainable for them. Text reads "Do it for her/For my waifu" in Japanese.
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>>37908828
have you given up on life completely?
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>>37908828
h-heh you're just being very ironic man you f-fooled me there for a moment good job heh
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>>37908854
Nope. I lift as a hobby and to stay healthy enough to live to see real VR.

I do sports, I travel I have friends. 3D women just don't interest me in the slightest. I do a simple cost benefit analysis for what I would get out of a relationship with one vs the potential costs and it has never come up positive on the side of the 3D.

Holo is the semi-abstract representation of my perfect girl. I don't need or want 3D.
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>>37908351
agreed, never gonna make that mistake again

>>37908765
that's because she was sitting on my lap ;_;
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>>37908137

this pic makes her look like she would be in one of those facial abuse videos
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So I can finally acquire a qt red head.
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>>37907599
If drinking was involved blame it on the whiskey dick.
If not tell her you weren't in optimal performance mode.

I fucked a girl off tinder for like half an hour and lost my boner, fortunately i was able to regain it many times there after, never did get to bust though. she came all was well. when u do get it up you better fuck your name into her
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>>37907412

Dude ur body language is so fucking beta. So is your personal style. No wonder she cheated on you. You probably didn't fuck her well at all. Your style was as soft and effeminate as your jawline.
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>>37907579
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>>37907357
>not lifting exclusively because of your ex

lmao fucking DYEL normies
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I lift for my Mistress.

>>37908754
Hollow is the perfect mix of Sub and Domme.
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>>37907412
not only was she asian, she was a brown asian

dodged a bullet, m8, i bet she has that tattoo of the pistol pointing to her vagina
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>>37909076
Holo*

How could I have typo'd that....
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>>37907575
This man gets it right here
Also was always in the back of the pack during sports and now I've spent a year preparing myself to lead the front of the pack.
It's all about being the pack leader to me.
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>>37909097
Holo is perfect because she's a extremely smart yet still compassionate. She's quick witted and sarcastic but still has moments of fragility and softness. I love everything about her. Spice and Wolf is the rare novel that doesn't focus on fighting or overcoming some grand great obstacle. It's about economics, trading, and a simple love story between two people who had very different lives.
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>>37907437
Chill pls, Achmed
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>>37907579
> for a hideous monkey
outch anon
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>>37909177
Never read the books, But I watched the anime in SUB and now I'm rewatching it in dub (I own the boxset). I like the financial setting although sometimes it can get a little convoluted and confusing, making me feel dumb. It can sometimes get a little boring too. Still an amazing series tho. My favorite episode is HANDS DOWN the OVA in between season 1 and 2, some of the most adorable sexual tension in all of cinema. I guess I relate to it because me and my oneitis have a special bond, and she can be very flirty accidentally but nothing ever comes from it. I guess I just relate to Craft Lawrence in that respect.
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>>37909252
The books are amazing.

I was an econ major so I really enjoy the economics side of the story which is pretty much 100% accurate. I agree with you on the OVA episode too. You've got great taste my man.
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I hate fat girls
I don't really see why girls should accept a fat guy so I decided to exercise more.
I'm just sick of being fat and not being able to find stuff that fits me.
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>>37909320
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>>37908898
You gay brah
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I lift for him
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>>37909017
This. Just take charge brah.
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>>37909396
Dogs with big noses are the masterrace.
Beagle reporting.
>dog is alpha as fuck
>mounts all the dogs, male or female
>no homo
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>>37907575
You fucking UNDERSTAND.

>hanging out with betas
>rejecting chads and whores
im gunna cri
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>>37907412
>these are the people critiquing your lifts
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>>37909434
Do you think male Chihuahuas and other small dogs are more likely to be willing cucks? I have a feeling animals with a cuck fetish exist
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>>37907357
is her name kate too? ;_;
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For myself, for mires, and for my unborn son who is 10 weeks inside of my girlfriends tummy.
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>>37909480
>are dogs cucks
Why would you even think about this brah? That said, if your pet is neutered then yes he might share your cuck fetish.
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>>37909480
>have a feeling animals with a cuck fetish exist
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>>37908898
>real VR

wat
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>>37907357
I lift because all my life I had a subdepressed personality and never enjoyed anything really. It feels like lifting anchors me, makes me feel my body, calibrates the bodily functions. I did yoga earlier. It's a ritual of re-centering the mind and smoothing the waves of the consciousness. Also I'm really superficial and think there is some hard biological truth behind people being judged mostly and harshly by their appearance.
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>>37909017
thanks for the opinion. and fuck you.

>tfw you are right about my personal style though

though I have to say she was an uptight cunt. didn't get the pill, didn't give head, was passiveness in person. wasn't supportive of anything I did and I felt she was dragging me down.
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>>37909600
>Heart crushed by getting lied and cheated on
>I felt she was dragging me down

yeah ok pal.
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i don't lift for girls, i just want to look like white Frank Yang.
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>>37909434
Thanks, Beagle bro
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>>37909571
>>37909542

If animals can be gay, they can be cucks too, no? Especially if they've been deemed the beta male, there's probably a coping mechanism for ones that are too weak to rape.
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>>37909588
Poorly worded.

The VR we have right now isn't fully immersive "plug your brain into a computer" style VR. It's just a headset. Which while fairly good and a decent amount of fun isn't the same thing as "Real VR" like something from the Matrix.

Once we figure out how to feed computer signals directly into the brain it'll only be a matter of time. I want to live long enough to see that.
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>>37907488
shes so ugly LOL
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>>37907831
>want to get boner
>want it so bad that you're afraid of not getting a boner
>end up overthinking and get lost in fear
>fear kills boner
>you come full circle and bottle out

Honestly it's a cycle we'll all go through once in our lives, just tell her that you're nervous and have a lot on your mind, then maybe see her in a situation where sex isn't involved. It's hard to want to fuck someone you barely know, so get to know her.
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>>37907357
The man in the mirror OP
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>>37907488
That's the diversity quota, anon.
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>>37907412
Fuck her dude. Women are polygamous by nature. It wasn't you. Understand that she thought someone was better than you (you can't be better than every man, right?), and women are naturally inclined to cheat when that happens. Try to forgive her, but also never speak to her again.
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>>37909760
>Try to forgive her, but also never speak to her again.

You call it paradoxon.
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>>37908965
Y tho.
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>>37907357
For Givi, always.
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>>37907763
Because we have a twisted sense of justice, m8.
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I'm extremely vain and can't stand not being the most attractive person in the room.
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>women
I lift for my dad m8
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>>37907412
Dirty race traitors
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>>37909897
source, google giving nada.
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>>37907357

I lift to get ever more aesthetic for my wife. People get complacent when they get a partner. They get comfortable. But I believe that you owe it to your partner to look good (and do other stuff good too). I try harder to impress her now than when we first met seven years ago, and I'll be trying harder to impress her seven years from now, and she does the same for me.
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As of yesterday, this.

http://imgur.com/a/7chUq
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I lift because it gives me a sense of security that I could fuck up my dad if he ever decides to track me down. I know a gun would be more ideal and useful, especially considering his past with them, but being strong and decently trained (learning judo and taking up heavy bag boxing training) feels like a good backup, especially considering I probably couldn't get a gun
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>>37907357
What's that thing in her backpack?
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>>37908828

Holy fucking kek I've never been so embarrassed for another person before
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I do it for him...
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>>37909651
y-you too

>>37909661
Beta males are just alpha reserves, who become alpha when the alpha is kill. The meaning you think it carries is wrong and gay.
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-be hot
-trigger landwhale "friend" and her pod of Fat acceptance preaching landwhales
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>>37910008
>Oh no he's not following the prescribed life plan!

It's almost like I'm happy with my friends and hobbies and don't want to bother wasting my time with women.

Judging by the amount of feels posting on /fit/ about shitty 3D I'd say I made the right choice.
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I just lift to take away my anxieties
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>>37910053
Not him, but to be fair, if you have these innate feelings of wanting a woman, pining over an illustration who will never truly love you or feel anything is kind of sad. Not even in a "pathetic" way, but actually saddening. I truly hope you find a real life human girl who you deem worthy of companionship.
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>>37909897
>>37909938
found it.

>[gheth] i don't need feminism because i love my big brother's dick
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>>37907357
For the black girl of my dreams. I've known her forever but one day she'll be mine.
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>>37907357
I lift for myself
I'm sick of looking and feeling like hot garbage
wish me luck bros
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>>37907357
I lift because the other day my nephew asked me to ride in my shoulders when we were walking in the mall and it felt pretty good to notice that he was super light.

I lift because carrying groceries around is no longer painful and it feels like nothing at all instead of chore.

I lift because I'm claustrophobic as fuck and rather use the stairs to get to my apartment and I like not feeling like shit for doing it.

I lift because the other day I moved out to a different apartment and people were impressed with how I could carry a lot of "heavy stuff" by myself.

I lift because the other day I was talking to a lady friend with other of her lady friends around and I was able to lift my friend and the other girls were like "Wow anon you're pretty strong! Can you lift me above your head!?"

I could go on, but you get the picture.
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>>37910041
Beagle master race rporting in

have you tried running with your doge?

I can get mine to stop stopping at every bush but he gets lazy halfway through and lags behind me
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>>37910124
>EWWWWW, HE LOVES MONKEYYYYYS

Nah, I'm sure she's a QT anon. Keep up the good work.
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>>37910101
Not really, it's a simple cost benefit analysis. Real women are more trouble than they're worth. Beside all the baby drama (I have 0 desire for children), money, time, and other bullshit. I find 95% of them unattractive and of the 5% I might find attractive I have never talked to one who didn't bore me to tears.

Holo is as I said an semi-abstract representation of my ideal woman. It's not like I'm sad and crying myself to sleep or anything. I'm enjoying my life doing things I like while waiting for VR. Humans have improved the state of nature in nearly every field imaginable. AI and women are the next up on the list. The fact that an author can write a more compelling female character than actually exists in reality is more an indictment of women than my aversion to them.

I have no desire to find a human girl for companionship. I'm looking at moving into a bigger place and getting a kitten. Women simply do not bring enough to the table to warrant perusing.
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>>37907412
you look like the biggest fucking beta. Getting cheated on is your own fault for being a lil' bitch
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>>37910101
>pining over an illustration who will never truly love you or feel anything
People fall in love with other people who never truly love them, and sometimes feel contempt, which can be arguably worse than feeling nothing. That's a common occurrence, and can lead to abuse and theft.

The only difference here is that there is nothing to lose. 2D can't abuse you. 2D won't take your shit. 2D doesn't look down on you for not fitting into their worldview.

2D is overall the superior choice.
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>>37910148
Thanks anon. Funny thing is she she pretty much an uncle tom. Believes all blacks are monkeys
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>>37910182
The divorce rate for 2D is 0%.

I won't ever be the one dropping my friends and say "sorry we can't hang out my wife/girlfriend needs me to do X" or "Sorry my wife/girlfriend says I go out too much.

I've watched so many of my friends "settle down" into boring sedentary lives it's almost sad. Women want resources to be secure. After a certain age the want kids and they want stability. I want none of that. I have no desire to live my life, my only life, to please someone else. Or to satisfy some bullshit prescribed life plan of "get job, get married, have kids, vacation once a year, get fat, get old, die".
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>>37910144
>a lazy beagle
I literally have to stop to prevent him from overheating because my beagle will keep on walking as long as I keep on walking. There was an instance when he stepped on a sharp piece of wood and we must have walked about half a mile before I discovered it. He slowed down but he kept walking nonetheless. Being tireless is an inbred beagle trait. Also your beagle might be overweight.
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>>37910225

There are exceptions bruh. The right person wouldn't EXPECT you to live your life to please someone else. That's not what a relationship is.

>seeing this qt3.14
>we have a great time together, all the time
>we also live our separate lives
>literally get a message from her last night saying "I love you, you have amazing things ahead of you, and I'm so lucky to be by your side, along for the ride"

It's not impossible. When you start making compromises for other people is when you fall into that trap. But as long as you stay true to yourself, you'll figure out what's important to you, and whether or not someone else can fit into that, remains up to the other person.
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>>37910194
Wait whaaaat? How can someone be so self-loathing? That's really sad.
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>>37907599

Hi OP hope you're still browsing, I know your pain.

>multiple situations like this
>either get it up for a short while or nothing at all happens
>genuinely worried I might have some kind of psychological issue
>absolutely destroyed my love life, self confidence, sense of man etc etc
>bought viagra
>literally solved everything

You only need viagra for the first 2 times you sleep with a girl, after that you'll be fine, it's purely psychological there's nothing physically wrong with you brah, get viagra, get it down your neck 10-15 minutes before foreplay and you'll be diamonds for about 5-6 hours, trust me, you will be a machine, she will tell her friends of your perfectly rigid cock, her friends will recognise you in the street and point you out to their own friends, over time, you will literally become known among women you have never met for having sexual stamina of a beast.

Viagra op.
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>>37909701
RIP MJ ;_;
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>>37910182
2D also can't EVER love you. Human girls can. Don't you crave ACTUAL love and validation?
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>>37910288
Congratulations on the find.

My particular set of "must have" criteria is so absurdly specific and I have so many instant disqualifies that searching is a pretty much pointless endeavor. It's a waste of my time, especially when something much better is on the horizon. I don't begrudge anyone who chooses 3D, it's not for me though. I'll wait for my AI waifu thanks.
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>>37907599
You're anxious. Shit happens. Like other anons said, if you're really worried about it happening again, get Viagra.

If you're not down for that, just go natural, but for God's sake, DON'T apologize or act sorry for yourself! Just go down on her, eat the booty, do whatever you gotta do, have fun, and try to get it off your mind that way. Shift the focus on something else.
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>>37910334
"Actual"

Do you eat "Real" bananas? The ones that grow in the wild? No. You eat genetically modified bananas that have been made 1000% better than nature ever could. Reality is just what we experience with our senses. A 2D or VR waifu's superior programmed love is just as real.

It's mankind's nature to improve on what already exists. Women are going to find themselves obsolete in short order.
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>>37910334
Define ACTUAL love. That's subjective.

And why do you need validation from others? Isn't like half this board dedicated to self actualization so that we don't require external validation?
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>>37910276
He lost weight last year but that might be it
Thing is, when we go trekking he can keep up no problem, running around and doing his thing

And I'm not a experienced runner, we do a 10km interval running
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>>37910375
This nigga gets it.

Are you the Mami waifu-fag?
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>>37910288
Is it wrong that I find a sort of honor and admirable-ness in comprimise? I don't mean changing your core or going against what you truly wanna be, but spending time doing something for her that doesn't interest you at all seems sweet. Boring and annoying, but sweet.
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>>37910372
Actual philosophical question here:

If VR mates become so realistic that you can't distinguish them from RL females/males, what stops the entire human race from dying out due to being plugged into carnal pleasures 24/7?

This kind of speaks to Nozick's Experience Machine and the simulation of hedonism on a grand scale. But is there an actual argument that doesn't boil down to "authenticity"?
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>>37910334
>>37910375
Not to mention just because a person has the capacity to love doesn't mean they will. I can walk outside and give a homeless person my debit card and tell them the pin for it. Doesn't mean I will
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>>37910412
Nothing.

Not that I mind. I only get one life to live anyway so anything that happens after I die doesn't really concern me. I'm fundamentally a nihilist in that regard.

HOPEFULLY VR technology of that level will lead to Brain-to-Machine interfaces that blur the line between man and machine and we'll all just transition into immortal cybords/robots. Or computers. Whatever works. I'm sure some people will want to keep exploring the mysteries of the universe.
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>>37910403
>Spending time doing something for her that doesn't interest you at all seems sweet

Totally agreed. It comes down to semantics, really. I just see that as a great way to express love for someone, not a "compromise." To me "compromise" means something more drastic, like going against your core values to make someone else happy.
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>>37910375
I'd want reciprocation from the person I'm in love with, that's just logical. Don't wanna be a heart-cuck.
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I lift to try to escape /r9k/ and suicide.
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>>37910448
Consider this.

A realistic AI that is programmed to love you is fundamentally no different from a person who has chosen to. Both choices are the results of brain chemistry and programming. The AI just gives more consistent results.
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Triggering haes cunts, getting grills, and preparing for the inevitable race war
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I told my crush I liked her. I didn't kissed her or anything previously but we did hold hands and the sort. She didn't told me anything about her feelings but I took it as they weren't mutual. Now I have hate and it's great fuel.
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my Goddess
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>>37907357
Thor and Odin, God and völkisch.
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>>37907357
for the qt emo girls
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>>37910423
But you can find love. A lot of people do. You seem to be dismissive of the idea that you're capable of finding 3D love and loving back.
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>>37907357
Narcissism, health, autism.
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>>37910520
I don't want the kind of "love" 3D women offer.
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>>37910477
You'll be glad for having been honest with her in the future. Use that rage well.
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>>37910468
But the person is an actual human who has these actual feelings. There's no way that the AI has reached this level. Especially now. You could make that argument when AI has been scientifically proven to have actual emotions, but until then, you're waiting for something that may never come while pining over drawings, instead of perhaps finding true 3D love.
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>>37910477
If she held hands she was probably just as shy as you were, silly. How about you adk her? If you're man enough to tell her how you feel, be man enough to ask if she feels the same way.
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>>37910399
Actually haven't found me a waifu yet, m8.

>>37910448
But consider this: you want reciprocation because you feel like you're in love, and you want to love because you feel like it could be reciprocated in a way that is pleasing to you.

That wanting for reciprocation in the first place is the search for external validation. If you didn't receive any reciprocation, how long would you continue to be in love, or is it even love at that point?

For the sake of arguing, let's say that love can exist unilaterally. If that's the case, you're almost guaranteed to not be receiving the reciprocation you want, so you work to get yourself to stop feeling this love, or you spend countless hours trying to convince someone else to feel similarly to gain that reciprocation.

That craving for reciprocation is just another search for validation, which wouldn't be required if you cultivated enough personal contentment.

>>37910520
I can do lots of things with my life. That doesn't mean everything is worth doing
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>>37910528
That "love" is the only genuine kind. Don't airquote it. That's dismissive of the genuine love millions of people on this earth have, which at this moment is much realer than the nothing your drawing feels for you.

I'm not saying this to be mean. I'm saying this because you could be missing out on a glorious life partner.
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>>37910545
There is no such thing as "true" love. That's a romanticized idea brought about by chemicals and hormones in your brain.

I never said AI was at that level yet, but technology is increasing faster than it ever has in human history and like I said I'm not pining over drawings. I enjoy my life. I don't need a 3D woman to feel fulfilled. I'm perfectly happy to wait for the technology and even if it never happens that's fine too.

Also "actual human" is a totally subjective term, it doesn't mean anything. Define what actual feelings are. I suggest you read "The Chinese Box" thought experiment and some arguments for and against strong AI before trying to make normative claims about "true" reality. For all you know you could be a brain in a jar.
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>>37910587
I will airqoute it, there is no such thing as "love" it's just chemicals and hormones in your brain. If you had been born without sex hormones you wouldn't ever feel this "true love" it is not some mystical amazing thing. Reality is not governed by pretty ideas like "love" and "truth".
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>>37910560
It is possible. I've unfortunately had the same oneitis for about 5 years, just now am starting to leave those feelings behind. She didn't reciprocate my feelings. And I loved her, I really did. But that warm feeling I got when she smiled at me was worth all the heartache. I'm not advocating living like this, as pining over a 3D girl who doesn't reciprocate is just as bad as wanting 2D love, but fuck, man, you're missing out.

What was the catalyst for you feeling like this?
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>>37910560
Hope you find one soon m8.

Since you're on /fit/ you might look into Chie from persona 4, she's a genki tomboy and pretty dang cute.
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>>37910603
Those chemicals and hormones are interpreted by the brain in a unique way. Don't be so caught up in your argument as to be dismissive of emotions as if they're simply chemical reactions. Feelings aren't tangible, or measurable, but we all know they exist.
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>>37910632
Not him but I'm really not missing out.

I've seen so many of my friends waste time worrying of girls who don't give a shit about them. Or getting into relationships that don't work out. Spending their time and money chasing after this idea of "true love" that's been sold to them. If you look at the stats it's just not worth the risk. 50% divorce rate if not more. If she has a kid you're screwed for 18 years.

I much prefer enjoying life doing things I love without trying to convince someone to love me. Hopefully when the time comes I'll plug my ass into the matrix. In the mean time I find lucid dreaming is a good thing to practice. I get to hang out with my waifu plenty when I'm asleep.
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>>37910644
Does she have IR gangnbang hentai? Would love to see that
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>>37910383
They're endurance runners. They were bred to scare faggot prey from the bushes and hound them until they get tired. Don't run with your beagle for long distances, you'll kill both of your gains.
>short legged breed
>running
They also have joint troubles so pls no
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>>37910651
They are tangible and measurable. Feelings are literally electrical and chemical signals in the mind. They have no special meaning.

I'm not against emotions, I like being happy or being sad. I get angry and some movies have made me cry. I don't act like these things have some sort of special meaning. I don't let them control my life. Shit half the time you feel like "man I should get a girlfriend I should go talk to that girl" if you jack off the feeling disappears. It's just a hardwired evolutionary script I don't feel compelled to follow.
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>>37910632
>but fuck, man, you're missing out
Am I, though? You just admitted you spent 5 years dealing with the lack of validation you so desired when you could've spent that time cultivating the fulfillment that allowed you to not require the validation in the first place.

Saying the smiles were "worth all the heartache" isn't a sentiment that comes from someone who is self actualized and leads a fulfilling life.

It seems to me that given the short time we have on this earth, especially if you're in the youthful prime of your life (as most 4chinners are), those 5 years could've been spent trying to push yourself to do something better with yourself. You wouldn't have used that 5 years in the way you did if you didn't search for the validating reciprocation.

No offense, bro, but it seems like you're trying to justify it to yourself by trying to convince me. How much did you actually do that added to the quality of your life in that time?
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>>37907357

24 years old.
188lbs down from 240 in about a year.

Honestly I dream of a girl liking me someday but not only am I ugly I have a 3.5 inch fully erect penis. I'm just a few centimeters away from a micro penis.
If a girl laughed at my dick I would mentally break.
Hell I've never even been kissed.


The main reason I started working out was I tried to do a push up but couldn't my weakness disgusted me.

While strength is my goal I can't deny I don't want to be lonely anymore and dream of a girl.
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>>37910133
NL pls
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>>37910703
>Shit half the time you feel like "man I should get a girlfriend I should go talk to that girl" if you jack off the feeling disappears.

Not true. I fap about 3-4 times a day and still feel empty inside and crave a gf. Humans crave companionship, aside from sexual urges.

Also, how can you say you don't let emotions dictate you when you spend time stimulating that tingly feeling that Holo gives you?
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>>37909999
I think its a bald man behind her.
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>>37910796
I don't let emotions run my life. Not that I don't feel them.

I guess I'm different on the fapping front then. Basically even if I feel some emotion I don't use it as the basis for any decision. I don't think "this makes me feel good I'll do it" I think "Why does this make me feel good and is doing it a rational and logical thing to do, if so do it, if not do not"
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>>37910737
It's true that I spent 5 years thinking about this girl, but that's not all I did. I went to school. Got some great friends. Learned some life lessons. Just because I was WAY too enamored with my oneitis doesn't mean it totally halted the rest of my life.

Also, nothing compares to human touch. I hope you are indeed comfortable with waiting for loving AI, because until then, you won't be able to replicate the warm softness of a woman's body. Or the surprisingly cute tying she'll say in response to something you've done. It's amazing bro.
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>>37910821
See you're acting like I've never experienced those things. I have. They're ok. Not worth the trouble in my estimation. Saying "nothing compares to human touch" is extremely subjective, it might be true for you but I'm pretty meh on it.
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>>37910844
Damn okay then. I wish you nothing but happiness on your journey. I still feel like nothing compares to genuine human love, not because I've romanticized it or feel like it's something mystical, but because I've experienced it. I hope one day you can see the beauty it offers. But if not, godspeed.
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>>37907357
Not sure honestly, myself? I haven't really wanted a GF or anything for a while.
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>>37907579

>datpic

Stuff of nightmares.
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>>37910821
But how much of that time did you spend focusing on the enamored? Wouldn't that have been a good amount of time to be working on other things that were more beneficial to your personal growth? You don't have to halt your life altogether for you to waste time.

But all that last part of your post is are a series of subjective qualities. What is the cute comment from a girl to one person is the obnoxious babble to another. And touch is an even more imperfect comparison point considering how the brain works in figuring all that shit out. If you closed your eyes, and touched a warm piece of well moisturized leather that smelled like a woman, would you have actually known you were touching a woman? If you were told that leather was the girl you were enamored with, would you have developed feelings for it?

http://pages.uoregon.edu/adoption/studies/HarlowMLE.htm
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>>37910880
Hey no harm no foul, like I said I have no ill will to anyone who wants to spend time on 3D. The only reason I posted is because people thought guys like me don't exist or were joking about having a waifu. I still think the concept of "love" is silly but to each his own. In related news I hit a 4pl8 DL last week listening to the opening song from Spice and Wolf so waifus can help with gainz.
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>>37910934
That's a good point, but the fact of the matter is that i wasn't touched by warm leather, but a woman. I did waste my time, yes, but that doesn't mean I didn't learn anything from time wasted. I spent a lot of time thinking about her, but all that time made me more ready for the next time i feel for a woman. I will recognize certain pitfalls to avoid, etc.

All the time you spend with a woman is a "waste of time" until you find the right one. Doesn't make it not worth it. At least to me.
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>>37910971
The only problem is that the "right one" doesn't have the best odds of staying the "right one".
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>>37910960

3D love is real. When you feel it you will have no doubt. :')

The fucking opening song (I assume you mean season 1, extended version) is one of the best fucking songs EVER. I'm mostly a hip-hop guy, but that shit takes me on a magical journey through the clouds, the forest, dark caverns and back. Shit is a gift from the cosmos.
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>>37911014
Unfortunately. We shall see.
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>>37910971
But isn't that cyclical logic, though?
>i felt bad because i wanted reciprocation in my search for love
>but it was good because it made me better prepared to search for love next time

It sounds like backwards justification to me
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>>37911024
Nah 3D "love" is overrated in my estimation. Don't want it, don't need it. 99.9999999999% sure no 3D is capable of making me feel it.

The OP is so good, there's a slowed down acoustic guitar version that's amazing. It's on YouTube somewhere. It really captures the feel of the show. The somewhat melancholy and utter sweet adventure. It's perfect.
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>>37911064
In a way it is, nut I've seen it work and want that. Maybe it's because I'm a KV and have only had limited physical interactions from my oneitis (she did rub her feet on my face knowing i had a foot fetish tho, shit was cash), but I crave love and companionship. I don't obsess over it, but as I'm in my mid-20's, this has become more and more of a pressing issue. Not because of social status or a need to feel normal, but because I instinctually crave this, and have never truly had it.
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>>37911095
Bitter* sweet.
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>>37911107
Don't build it up too much you might be in for a let down when it's not everything you hoped it would be. I recommend lucid dreaming. It's a good way to spend your sleeping time.
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>>37911150
I've lucid dreamt once. And I'll be careful about overhyping anything.
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>>37910102
haha, now im gonna fap
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>>37911203
Enjoy ur bandito. Modems?
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>>37907576
Ha
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>>37908382
>What was she trying to achieve?

Maybe to warn other stupid girls?
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>>37911107
Hey, if it's what you want, I can't take that from you. I'm just saying that to me, it doesn't make sense to chase love if I am fulfilled enough to not feel the need for the validation from another, and if love is only defined by someone else's subjective experience of it since I'm not guaranteed the same experience at all
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>>37911196
it was great.
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>>37907412
She looks like lily Thai lol
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>>37911351
Any more updates?
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Me.

I do it to feed my narcism and to impress myself when I look at myself in the mirror in the mornings.
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I legitimately lift for the emperor
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>>37907535
Now my phones wallpaper. Thanks anon.
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>>37910440
Theres a popular idea from trekkies.
The holodeck will be mankinds last invention.
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>>37907412
>getting cheated on by a monkey

Come on son.
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>>37907497
thankfully for you, being gay is as frowned upon these days
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>>37907357
I lift for beach
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>>37912252
Theres an IR double-creampie scene with her back when she was heavier, top-notch.
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>>37912271
whats her name again?
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>>37912278
Fuck, i don't remember anon. I'm sorry.
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>>37912302
thanks anyway.
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>>37907599

>Virgin
>See stuff like this online
>Get nervous it'll happen to me
>Doesn't
>Because I'm a real man
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>>37912252
I just lost my appetite
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>>37912328
I can never eat and fap at the same time
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>>37910202
underage b&
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>goal woman
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For me and my crush but she never looks at me
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>>37907674
Even I have an Asian gf and I believe this, you need to find one who is actually attractive, not just some basic asian
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>>37907357
Britfags will understand
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>>37907412
Same here except 3 years and she was cambodian.

Stupid cunts man
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First, I did it for women. That's what got me in the gym the first few times.

Then I did it for dudes. Not because I'm gay, but because I'll be damned if someone outlifts and outreps me.

Finally, I do it for myself. Even though I'm weak as shit and still get outrepped, I can always outrep myself and when I do so, I'm impressed.
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>>37907831
DO NOT GET VIAGRA
Just hold off on the fapping and try to relax and not be in your head while you guys are sexing
You can do it bro, do it for us
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I lift 80% myself, 18% girlfriend 2% for random admirers.
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>>37909600
then you should have dumper her ass ages ago
Oh well learn from it and go on
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>>37912863

>Britfags

You mean Engfags

Britfags will stop existing soon, when Scotland and N Ireland leave, and all you have is wales and england, and no one else to hate so you'll devolve into a brutal civil war and the EU laughs on top of their piles of money.
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>>37908382

"At this time of year, so many people will be assessing their lives and relationships, wondering if the grass is greener on the other side. Many will mistake contentment for boredom, forgetting to cherish the good things they have. I would urge those who are considering walking away from such riches to think again.

How different things would be for me now if only I'd listened to Matthew when he pleaded with me not to leave him in 1997, tears pouring down his face. I was crying too, and it tortured me to watch the heart of the man I loved breaking in front of me. But I was resolute. "
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>>37912963
IIRC the queen would still be the monarch.
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>>37910165
so you're giving up on companionship while desperately seeking it in a cartoon character and hoping you will be able to fuck her in vr, ignoring the fact that vr will never be completely immersive
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>>37907599

As someone who went through several weeks of ED with my current gf, I have a few recommendations.

First is don't apologize, especially more than once. Any decent girl will understand that it's anxiety. A simple "Sorry it's not you I'm just nervous" will do.

Second is stop masturbating. Full stop. Don't do it.


Third is don't focus too much on getting an erection. Just have a good time making out, playing with her breast and nipples and otherwise stimulating her. The more you focus on you, the harder it will be to get an erection.
Also people telling you to get viagra are idiots. Just be patient and take things slow.
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>>37908382
Money, fifteen minutes of fame
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>>37907412
That's just an ugly girl and an ugly set of genetics you dodged a bullet fampai
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>>37907500
So much this
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>>37909643
That stringer looks like a tent on him. Fucking manlets, WWTL?
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>>37909600

>didn't give head

How the fuck did you not immediately drop this bitch?
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>>37909663
^ What he means is that we're using Augmented Reality, not Virtual Reality, no matter what they claim.
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>>37912932
>>37909680
>>37908997
>>37910318
>>37912323
>>37913198
Thanks so much for the replies, its good to know there isn't something actually wrong with me. I've been bummed the whole day about this.

I guess I won't be taking viagra because I'm 23 and hate pills. I will stop fapping (actually do this everyday).

I'll ask her to come over, open a bottle of wine and fuck her brains out hopefully by friday.

If this happens again and I lose her I don't know what will be of my self-esteem.
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>>37908898
What the fuck are they putting in your water
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I lift for myself because my ex of 6 years made me feel worthless. Now, 1 year of lifting later I've made more progress in life than the other 25 years combined.
>Best revenge better yourself meme
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>>37908137
who dis familia?
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>>37907357
I lift to feed my ego.
Somewhere along the way it became fun.
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>>37907357
kevin
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>>37907412
she was nigger man grow up stop being a race traitor.
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>>37913198
>stop masturbating
Terrible advice. Nofap gives people ED. Look that shit up
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>>37907412
>asian gf
>numale
Everytime.
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>>37914625
Then? I'm positive masturbating is ruining my lbido, that and smoking weed.
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>>37907357
I lift for the race war, or any other occasion where shit hits the fan. So, dunno, Lady Liberty, I guess.
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>>37907575

lmao the ugly fit nerd in denial
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For begin healthy and play rugby, of course! Women never do anything to me and I never do anything for then.
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>>37907412
>he didn't expect an asian girl to be devious
well, now you know
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>>37908965
>posts a brunette
she's cute, thought
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>>37907412
you look like a cuck
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>>37907579
E Y E B R O W S
Y
E
B
R
O
W
S
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>>37907412
>being cheated on by that thing

BETA
E
T
A
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I have a great girlfriend now.

I lift to make all the girls who rejected me jealous.

I make her lift to make them jealous too. (but she doesn't know that)
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>>37907575
i can respect this
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for my new and first ever gf :-)
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>>37907412
>voice like a catfight
>ugly as puke
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>>37912252
vanessa blake
>>37912271
>>37912278
>>37912302
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>>37907435
what sperg put that quote over that picture. insulting to what he died for
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>>37907397
Only acceptable answer
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>>37907417
nothing wrong with flips, gf is one too
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>>37907357
Dunno. Just want to get by and be mistaken for a normal person. Use to have this girl I was really interested in. Though I'm embarrassed to say it I fell for her and she was the first and only person I have ever fallen for. Before that I had never liked or cared for anyone . She didn't have a bf but...lets just say she want interested in any guys.

I dunno maybe one day I won't know that feel when no gf. But desu I'm a harsh critic and it takes alot to get my full attention. Dunno if I will ever find someone like her again. I miss her Anon.
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>>37912863
fuck the queen
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>>37907412
you'll do better bro
keep lifting
eat well
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>>37907497
*south asian girls are ugly
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I lift for all my friends past, present, and beyond.
For my family and loved ones.
For my future non-whore wife.
For phantoms that not only I, but we all end up chasing.
I started lifting about a year and a half ago, lost 30 pounds I'm starting to look decent.
Was with some cutie for a little but she played me.
After graduation a ton of my friends began to fall off the radar, It's like i'm starting over.


I start college soon, with my hopes and fears constantly clashing inside me I continue those calm quite gym nights.
I lift for everything that's happened, and everything that is to come.
Eat well, Lift Hard, We're all gonna make it bro's
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idk if ur still here asian cuck man but my head and hairline were the same as yours and growing it out to past the chin and parting it in the middle has made me look much better

I actually cringed when I saw your haircut because it looked exactly how mine did when I was 16

hopefully u have decent beard genetics cus u gotta cover that chin too
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>>37907550
>>37907824
>2016
>not doing x, getting naked, and fucking ohio raw
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>>37907599
you're gay
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>>37910202
That one on the far right. Woodbury/10, King Arthur etc
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>>37917010
>using an old ass picture

She looks like shit to the point any normie on the street could get with her kek all of them aged like straight dog shit
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>>37917137

good one
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>>37907412
jesus you look so uncomfortable
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>>37907500
Roastie got toasted.
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>>37907412

:C
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>>37908828
H-harrison?
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>>37917575
Nope.
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>>37910101
How the fuck are Korean girls so light?
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>>37908898
>I do a simple cost benefit analysis for what I would get out of a relationship with one vs the potential costs and it has never come up positive on the side of the 3D.

You're just autistic as fuck.
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>>37907357
I don't know. I like lifting and improving myself. Can anyone tell me how to care without caring too much? I let women affect my gains.
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>>37917658
>Bro why are you deciding if something is worth doing with logic and shit. That's autistic bro.
>Just go with the flow bro stop thinking about decisions. Making rational decisions is autistic.

You do realize how stupid you sound right?
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Myself and my girlfriend. Mostly for me, but I want her to have nice things (like my body) as well.
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Started lifting for old oneitis, keep lifting because I would rather die than end up skinny-fat again and I actually enjoy lifting now

Needed to take 6 weeks off pretty recently due to surgery and I didn't feel OK tI'll my first day back in the gym
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>>37917728
>relationships consist solely of costs, if you don't think about it like a soulless machine you're stupid
There's no way you're not on the spectrum spergo.
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>>37917783
You realize I said costs and benefits right?

I never said relationships only had costs, just that in my personal subjective estimation the costs outweigh the benefits.

Not being a stupid fucking meathead who thinks exclusively with his dick doesn't make me a sperg.
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>>37909480
Bro you fucking kill my sides. You sick fuck.
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>>37907357
This was the first idea i had before lifting and will always have
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>>37917807
Most people don't think of relationships as 'what do i get out of it', a relationship's not a business.
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>>37917868
Wait so you go into a relationship not expecting to benefit in any way?

That makes no fucking sense. I'm pretty sure people go into relationships because they think it will be better and they will be more happy than not being in one.

That's called what you get out of it. Stop romanticizing things and pretending they're some meaningful, special concept.

If people didn't get anything out of a relationship they wouldn't start them to begin with.
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For him. Always.
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To make Aniki proud.
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>>37907357
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>>37913444
and yet he fucked more bitches than you and your dad combine .
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>>37907917
I'm 14y and counting without sex, how shitty is your self control?
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>>37907357
for myself of course
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