>NON-LIFTING people who say you can look like this naturally

WTF, you don't need roids to get this.

Well, he does have some size but he isn't that shredded, you know.

>>37838395
Hat doesn't need roids at all. Only an incredibly lazy person needs roids for that.

If you have excellent genetics, you can look like that while doing almost nothing

If you have decent genetics, you can look like that naturally if you're willing to follow a strict routine and diet for years

If you don't have good genetics and/or if you're not willing to spend years with a restrictive lifestyle, you need roids.

>>37838437
Found the newfag

>>37838395
Just look at a persons shoulders, that's usually a good indication.

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Depends on your height, that guy is 6'6 or some shit he's definitely on something

>>37838451
>spot the "flat delt" genetics

Too sad.

>>37838444
trips dont lie

>>37838481
>I can't spot roiddelts

You'll get there.