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>>37795368
>implying we dont know
low bar squat is just a meme we use to troll newfags along with ss and gomad

>>37795368
but i want to have juicy manbutt

>>37795368
if ur deadlifting theres no point in low bars lel

>>37795397

High bar squats work glutes too though

>>37795418
i had lmao0 glutes before I started doing hip extensions

probably because I had inactive glutes from sitting all my life

>>37795368
What if I have lower back issues and I'm specifically doing low bar because it targets that area better?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLVJTBZtiuw

>things dyels worry about

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>>37795368
What a cuck

>>37795368
>trolling this hard
OP you forgot to add the creatine meme

thanks OP, couldn't decide which one to do tonight :^)

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>>37795553
Knee problems inbound.

>>37795568
Not weighing lmao3pl8 protects us though

>>37795368
Back squats aren't real squats, only front squats are.

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>being a low-bar pleb

>B-but muh eric faggotbridge

>>37795568
High bar has way more force on the knees and more forward knee travel which stress the palletar tendons more

>not doing superior front squats
>he cant atleast squat 3 plates for 12 Reps

wow OP, you sure are a moron

It doesn't really matter that much
This is overthinking

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>Low/highbar so similar that they're regarded as the same exercise even by professionals
>Literally nobody cares
>Aside from a little taiwanese basket-weaving congregation

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>>37795368
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>>37796555
lmao I can GUARANTEE that all you squat like three plates.

>>37796907
Lol that guy in the back is doing the widest grip swing curls i ever seen

>>37795418
especially high bar squats.
the most glute activation is below parallel

>>37796565
lowbar allows for more weight which stresses the knees more

>>37796907
I see that the second rep is awful, but is the first rep that bad? I think this is about how it looks for me.

Low bar squats for glutes and hams
Front squats for quads

High bar squats for??? Practicing squatting down onto your boyfriends cock?

Low bar supplemented with front squats is perfect.
High bar is like fucking purgatory where no gains are made.

>>37797286
everyone is going to grind at 95%+, perfect form at really high percentages is almost impossible

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This is how i squat, i can do triples with 3 plate

Good or bad

>>37799224
>asian manlet
Doesn't matter

>>37799224
excellent form
what do you do for assistance?

>>37799224
Great rom bro. Mirin.

>>37799293
Errr...leg curls and leg extensions?
I don't do other legwork apart from squats (front,back) and deadlifts (conventional, stiff leg). I don't even do lunges.

>>37799327
I find it easier to go deep and pop up than try to sustain parallel with my quads and hams. Is that bad?

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>>37799349

nice samefagging. how insecure are you? get wl shoes, your ankle mobility is shit and ruining your form.

>>37799349
I do that too but it feels like cheating since I get a short 'rest' on the bottom

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>>37799378
Im not samefagging sir
But how can you say i have bad anke mobility?

>>37799386
Oh I see. Im the opposite.
I feel like im cheating if I just tense up my quads and let them do the work all throughout

>>37799430
because it's visible. your hips are compensating for it and your back is rounding

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>>37795482
I hated the use of metal for powerlifting but it was funny tho

>>37799456
The rounded back i can agree with. Buttwink kicks in when i hit the lowest i can go. It doesn't hurt anywhere at all, but it is visible in the mirror.

So how will weightlifting shoes help me in this? I was thinking i have more of a hip tightness issue than an ankle issue

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>>37799512

this image is exaggerated but that's the basic idea. basically fake ankle mobility to make it less demanding on the hips

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I squat like this, is it bad?

>>37799997
You got a little bit of butt wink at the bottom, which suggests to me that you have some stiff hips. Normally the wink happens as you unconciously (or conciously) adjust your posture at the bottom of the hole. Happens a lot when people go below parallel and don't have enough hip mobility.

But the escape from the hole was pretty strong.

>>37799430
>But how can you say i have bad anke mobility?
because shitty internet "coaches" will blame everything on "mobility". it never fails.

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>>37800163
ok, that workout, everything felt like ass. no way 92.5% should have been that slow.

is this any better? I know the depth here is pretty shit

My left hip join is in pain on the drive up for my squat, what am I doing wrong?

>>37795368
I'm not nearly flexible enough for high-bar and neither should you be unless your a contortionist whore who doesn't care about strength.

>>37796555
>tfw even this oak's calves are small

Why is it so hard to get good calves /fit/? Why are the gods so cruel?

>>37795368
I squat excacly the same high bar as low bar

>just dyel concerns
Seriously nobody cares

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>I maintain that high-bar squats have a limited usefulness, for several reasons. I use the low-bar squat as the primary exercise for developing hip drive, the active recruitment of the muscles of the posterior chain. The hamstrings, adductors, and glutes in a low-bar squat act directly to open the hip angle out of the bottom. In a front squat the hamstrings are shortened by the acute knee angle and open hip angle into a position of almost complete contraction, and cannot be used to make the hips extend since they are already contracted. The extremely vertical back angle is maintained by the glutes and the contracted hamstrings, which function as the primary extensors of the hip in the absence of hamstring involvement. This means that there is little hamstring in a front squat and lots of hamstring in a low-bar back squat. And a high-bar back squat is intermediate between the two. I specifically want there to be lots of hamstring involvement in the squat, especially for Olympic weightlifters, most of whom refuse to/are not allowed to deadlift heavy and thereby get their hamstring work. If all your squat work -- front squats when you clean and when you do them out of the rack, and high-bar back squats -- omits heavy hamstring involvement, your posterior chain gets inadequate training. And this can be costly on a 3rd attempt clean.

>o, I want there to be shear stress on the back so that the muscles that control intervertebral position get strong. I want active use of the hamstrings, so that they get strong too. And this is why I like the low-bar back squat.

What did Mark Rippetoe meant by this?

source: http://startingstrength.com/resources/forum/mark-rippetoe-q-and-a/10030-olympic-squat-vs-starting-strength-squat.html

>>37799997
You fucking missed quads by 2 and you ask for advice here about a 500 lbs squat?

Are you legitimately retard?

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>>37800528
what's wrong with asking for advice about a 500lb squat

>>37800521
Here is the normie translation :

>people should listen to me about weightlifting even though I've never trained any elite weightlifters. I trained some beginners to be moderately strong so this qualifies me as an authority to challenge decades of successful weightlifting trainers.

>m'gomad

>>37800559
Nothing at all. This is just the wrong place to ask. Outside of /plg/ and maybe /owg/ before all the tolerable trips left.

Everyone here will tell you to de load and work on perfect form 2pl8 squats until you can do them perfectly and with perfect form.

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>>37800588

But, senpai!, you're using ad hominem instead of refuting his arguments

>>37797308
>this much broscience.
Front squats works the legs as hard as a back squat. The limiting factor in a front squat is your spinal erectors

>>37800588
>also buy my books

>>37799561
How is it even possible to lean forward that much on a front rack position without dropping the weight

>>37800615
Fuck that, if someone tells you that the moon is made of Macaroni, you don't have to argue against it.

>>37800615
I wonder how much Maki can squat.

>>37795368
What about front squats?

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>>37800660

You don't HAVE TO, you can just ignore said person, but if you want to prove said person wrong, shouldn't you refute his/hers arguments? (they do have to provide arguments for such claim, that is)

>>37800667
She's not a big girl 4 u

>>37800588
He has trained elite lifters though and was trained by elites especially before the USA became a 37 ranking joke in the weightlifting olympics.

>>37800699
You can't refute every stupid thing people say. Go do low bar squats as a weightlifter I don't care. Do sumo deadlifts and bench press too. You can write a 40 page argument on why one exercise might help someone at something. You can theoretically argue about anything. That doesn't mean that in practice it will be true.

>>37800721
Yeah he's trained butt pirates

>>37800754
>Gets proven wrong
>Acts retarded
Every time.
4chan really is shit isn't it.

>>37800754
You do know that Bench press was done by all the pros just few years back when the press was part of the sport.
There's a reason Owg is a joke filled with dyels with little to no knowledge.

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>>37800754

Well, maybe you can't becuase it would take too long and would be exhausting, but Rippetoe is presenting an argument based on premises, while you seem to disagree and argue something else while not providing premises of your own, nor refuting his argument... Senpai, why should someone take you more seriously than Rippetoe?

>>37800559
rip back

>>37800643
>this image is exaggerated

>>37800825
Jokes on you I am rippetoe and I was testing you

You are a good shill, come down to Wichita falls and I will train you to be strong

>>37799224
Nice man. Don't listen to any naysayers your form is damn good.

>>37800777
If you didn't get trips I would have been very insulted

And I'm not acting retarded


I am retarded. So joke is on you po boy

>>37800818
But it's not done anymore is it?

Get out you gremlin

>>37800643
Looks like by supporting the weight on your hands and wrists which is why he's only demonstrating with the bar.

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>>37800883

...but senpai, now you're attacking me instead of refuting what I've said

I would like to be trained by Rippetoe, but he intimidates me, I don't want him to be mean to me.

>>37796907
Yeah, I squat 3 plates.

For 4x12 paused reps.

>>37799997
>I """squat""" like this, is it bad?

yes because you are confusing squats with good mornings

>>37800215
can you post your legs?

they look kinda small for that much weight

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>>37801592
>can you post your legs?
Not right now, I'm a bit busy to be taking pictures of my legs
>they look kinda small for that much weight
Yeah I get it a lot that I'm stronger than I look, which is ok I guess, I'd rather that than the other way around

>>37800825
>this image
>it's not Trappy posting
Didn't even read desu

>>37799349
Leg extensions are awful for you be careful fampai

>>37800559
get some better shoes man, your balance is off and you are leaning forward.

>>37800825
I would totally violently shove my dick into her mouth.

>>37800332
My guess is your volume when squatting is too high and you got or is about to get an inflamation.

>>37800528
pents not quads you mong

>>37805428
it's called quints u moron

Literally all of you kill yourselves.
You good for nothing fucks.

>>37799561
o shit thats me on the left.. i wonder why my spine was hurting

God what an awful thread.

- Not much difference in high-bar/low-bar squat. Just do what feels comfortable and increase the weight.

- Front squat also not much different but you're limited by how well you can hold (rack) the weight and how upright you can remain on the ascent.

- All squats suck for hamstring involvement. Deadlift instead.

Also, stop getting trolled by the 500 manlet squatfag, fags.

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>>37795368

>tfw doing squats wrong and fucking my knees up

>>37797308

You nitwit, the ONLY thing that actively extends the knee joint is the quadriceps. Therefore, provided you hit depth, low bar will work your quadriceps the same as any other style of squat to depth, pound for pound.

AND you can use heavier weights for lowbar squats, which make them indisputably better

The ONLY reason to front squat is to improve your ability to recover from the bottom of REALLY heavy cleans.

>>37799224

Not bad, but you are the one person on earth I've seen with your toes pointed TOO FAR out. Bring them back in to like 45 degrees or so.

And don't crane your wrist under the bar like that. It's a minor nitpick, but if your wrist is flat and above the bar, it will completely prevent an already really low risk for minor injury.

And get some actual weightlifting shoes. And probably a belt.

>>37808394

Depth on lowbar squats is usually a shorter ROM for the quads than for highbar, though not by a huge amount unless you're going full westside. And there's plenty of reasons to front squat beyond just being an oly lifter.

>>37799349

>I find it easier to go deep and pop up than try to sustain parallel with my quads and hams. Is that bad?

It might be because your lower back is flexing a bit, which is not good. You DO want to "bounce" a little bit to take advantage of that stretch reflex, but you don't want to wave your ass around the end of your spine. Be sure to keep your back flat, the spine is supposed to be locked in isometric extension such that it can function has a rigid segment to optimally transfer force along.

Though I can't tell if you're actually "buttwinking" from a still picture.

>>37795390
what's wrong with ss?

Somebody pls post bodorios low bar to confuse the dyels.