How does one get a social life in their mid-late 20s?

>>37793460
Go out

Make buddies with common interests at work or school. Then ask if theyd like to go and do said activities together.

Social life doesn't exist. People shift interests constantly, friendship only exist in childhood then people go for money or sex.

>>37793460
Super basic answer - find events that women will enjoy and then find women to take to those events.

>>37793525
what kind of events? like drake or justin bieber concerts?

where do i find these women to take?

>>37793478
Slowly beginning to realize this

work on your appearance

literally the only way you are going to attract someone else as all interest is physical initially

then just go out and do stuff. for the love of god dont read PUA shit.

>>37793460
OP, I know this is a radical, out-of-left-field idea, completely outrageous, and I'm sure totally outside your comfort zone, but have you considered leaving your basement lair and the internet and going outside to places where actual living people congregate and, I dunno, talking to them?

>>37793579

not him but you cant just chat up randoms who are with friends, unless the girl really wants to fuck you she's gonna just tell you to get lost

>>37793553
No, not like those. Places women want to be seen at. Granted, women may want to be seen at Drake shows but you don't want to be seen with those women.

If you have no concept of cool or interesting or fun - find random stranger women on instagram and see where they've taken selfies at in the past. That's where they want to go. So then you pick up some tickets to that type of event and find chicks to converse with - after a few minutes tell them that you got tickets to whatever from a friend that works at a promotional company and ask them if they wanna go.

>>37793587
Maybe that's the way things work for you friendo, but there is an art to starting conversations with people you don't know, not that I'd expect any of the children that populate /fit/ to have developed that skill-set yet. Besides which the OP is talking about 'having a social life', not 'hooking up with club sluts', which is what you, in your mindless-breeder way apparently are focused on.

>>37793619
>and ask them if they wanna go.
so pay girls to hang out with me? that's your advice?

>>37793566
>then just go out and do stuff.
what kind of stuff?

The only true friends i have left are all from childhood.

The new people i meet are just really only acquaintances at the end of the day.

I am 29.

I find it very difficult to make NEW true friends, everyone just seems to be focusing on getting resources at this stage, very little time to invest in forming new true friendships, most people at this age are just focusing on finding other people they can use for progressing their own career/earnings potential etc.

>>37793620

you cant just bust into someones social circle randomly, you need a good reason

noone wants a random drunk at a bar to talk to them if they are in a group, etc.

>>37793478
No, you're just unlikable.

>>37793638

anything

go shopping, malls etc, just go in places with people

personally I dont like going to bars solo, cause if you have a bad night you are just going to want to drink lots. also alcohol is shitty when you are cutting.

>>37793649
>you cant just bust into someones social circle randomly,
No, you can't, and you're just proving my point: You don't have the skill-set to start conversations with random people in a public place. You're young and you're dumb and you probably don't have much personality, imagination, or sense of humor, let alone the ability to read people. You're not ready. Come back in a few years when you're not 12, OK?

>>37793478
>friendship only exist in childhood

The only reason it exists is because you see the same people almost for 8 hrs a day and always in close proximity. You take that away then you really have no attachments to anyone.

Try going to a different gym then your regular one and see how you are considered an "Outsider," Even though you probably lift more than most of the people in there.

>>37793628
You wanna have a social life - this is what social life means after college - going to places with women and then maybe going to other places with other couples.

How you got "pay girls to hang out" from what I wrote is beyond me.

>>37793664

im just realistic

girls arent stupid, they know you are talking to them cause you want to fuck them. which makes talking to girls in groups a no-go. also, it's better when you both have a mutual interest, makes conversation a lot easier.

still, it's pretty hard to meet people after you are 25+. way easier when you are younger.

>try to get a social life
>"go to meetups" they said
>go to meetups
>it's literally all dudes

socializing is just guys trying to find girls to fuck. once you're out of highschool it's just a crapshoot, the good girls are taken and a bunch of thirsty dudes are tripping over each other to get at the used up sluts.
I tried to go into this with the most positive attitude I could but its literally all it is.

Get a job.

Hang out with a few co-workers.

Meet their friends also.

Expand.

That's how I did it.

>>37793723
Those are essentially acquaintances.

I feel like peoples understanding of the word "FRIEND" is so fucked up now, it's lost all meaning.

your best hope is to look the best you possibly can.

so you have interests. cool. noone gives a shit unless they like how you look, and by extension, want to hang out with you.

lifting for girls might be dumb but getting in better shape is probably the best possible thing you can do to open doors for yourself. it has been true for me, that's for sure.

>>37793670
Dawg, you must have had a really boring high school life or never truly connected to them. Being in close proximity to the same people doesn't produce a friendship, but it allows the opportunity for one to grow. My friends and I have helped each other when we needed it, we're pretty much like family.

>>37793680
>girls arent stupid, they know you are talking to them cause you want to fuck them
Oh my FUCKING GOD you are stupid!!!

You're one of those fucking idiots who uses pickup lines and all that goddamned stupid-ass PUA bullshit all the time aren't you? Let me ask you this: Have you ever had a NORMAL, NON-PICKUP conversation with a girl before? Or do you stink of desperation to get laid 24/7/365?

Try BEING REAL. I know it's a stretch for you, with such limited source material to go on (i.e., no real personality, no real intellect, no real interests other than lifting and fucking, no sense of humor to speak of even) but can you fucking TRY it at least!?

OMFG, I fear for the future of the human race, if it's idiots like you who are on the front lines..

>>37793657
Baby still doesn't understand how social interactions work in adults, cute.

>>37793730

it's like having friends serves no purpose anymore. everyone has their own weird political beliefs and whatever, they'd rather go home and plug into the matrix, have their beliefs reinforced on whatever shitty site they go to, or watch something on netflix.

when you get older life is just so utilitarian I guess. you go to work to pay your bills and survive and then you're too tired to go on 'adventures' or whatever. unless it serves some obvious purpose (like finding a mate) and then when you find one you stop hanging out with friends until that goes sour and you have to start again

>>37793708
why does a "social life" have to only revolve around women for you

>>37793460
>have a hobby that involves being around people
>continue to be around said people
>ask people to hang out
This is all you can do, period.

That feel when you're 24 and you're probably the biggest loser here

That feel when you live with your parents (really expensive out here) and have a shit job because you're too afraid to try to go to grad school because you know you'll fail at it anyway

That feel when you ain't got no friends since like middle school and you a kissless virgin who ain't never even asked a girl out

That feel when you an only child and you ain't never had a good relationship with your parents because they are basically forever alone assholes like you, and people say "it explains everything about you" when you say you an only child

That feel when you make people around you laugh because you're a clown but you never find anyone or anything funny yourself, mostly just cynical and sarcastic

That feel when you been alone and miserable, cynical and bitter for so many years that at this point basically everyone just annoys you

That feel when you literally don't even try to talk to people or make an effort to get to know them anymore because you have nothing to share anyway and if you do try to share anything, people will realize you're a friendless autist with no life experiences so what's the point

That feel when you just fill your free time by browsing the internet, watching TV and watching sports because they take up a shitload of time

That feel when even if by some miracle you did happen to make friends or get a girlfriend, you probably wouldn't even be happy because you would think about how your entire youth was wasted shut in your room

That feel when you don't even know what normal people your age do on the weekends besides going to bars/clubs with your friends and you don't even know what a bar is like

That feel when you don't even know how to hit on a girl

That feel when you ain't got no motivation for anything because you know that no matter what you do, you'll always be alone and miserable

That feel when you just flat out don't care about anything or anyone

>>37793748

no, lines are stupid. but girls know guys chat them up not for conversation, but cause they want to sleep with them. thats the basis of all conversation, outside of business (which should be professional).

how many guys approach girls without the intent to date them eventually? I despise PUA culture but it's the truth: lines or no lines approaching a girl as a guy usually says one thing.

sure, you could just want to make friends but eventually you want more than that, dont you?

>>37793764

I'm just saying, that's what it feels like.
What do a bunch of dudes hanging around do? Go to sports games or something? I was never really into that... grew up on video games. Maybe I should give it a try.

>>37793764
>why does a "social life" have to only revolve around women for you
Likely because he's a tryhard virgin who will likely never get laid until he's married, and he stinks of desperation. Probably doesn't have any real personality either, which is a large part of the problem.

>>37793774
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>>37793774
Have some motivation bro

>>37793782

Nice projects there buddy

Are you honestly telling me when you go out on a friday or saturday night, it isn't mostly just dudes standing around trying to prey on women?

>inb4 don't go out to bars, find a hobby like canoeing xD

>>37793779
You're utterly clueless, guileless, devoid of any social skills, and likely a tryhard permavirgin who gets rejected 101% of the time by even ugly girls. You're completely incapable of understanding what I'm talking about, let alone able to self-actualize it. I'm not sure if I'm disgusted by you or pity you.

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>mfw i relate to shit said in this thread even though im 20

no one cares about making new friends but they expect me to find a wife to live the rest of my life with.

>>37793708
why would girls go to meetups? meetups are used to meet people, and girls basically by existing will meet people. if they are at least average looking guys will just come to them, girls will be friends with them. girls are basically never bored, always have a multitude of girls or guys they can text and be doing something right away.

it's the guys who have to make the effort to have social lives

I just hate the whole "dating" process

all this bullshit and drama just to get your dick wet

this is why I appreciate stuff like the gym, it's just some weights and real estate, no drama, no nonsense.

sadly, a gym wont suck my dick.

>>37793785
>>37793795
>tfw clearly i have a lot of problems
>wish i could discuss them with people
>the only people i can discuss this with are other losers just like me who will just tell me how their situations are the same and how miserable they are
>if i tried to talk about this with normal people i would get ridiculed, insulted, humiliated
>i get compared to a mass murderer

>>37793811

Okay. So "go to meetups" is a meme. Going out to bars and clubs is a meme ("you'll only find whores there!"). So my options are what? Church? I'm not going to get close to anyone there without meeting her entire extended family. Bookstore? Creepy!

I don't fucking know man. Just give me the VR cat girls already

>>37793799

why do guys approach girls?

sure, guys and girls can be friends but most of the time that doesnt work. it can, but still.

>>37793797
You stupid shit.. I'm 51 years old, have already gone through all this stupid developmental bullshit you dumb fucks are apparently going through, have had dozens of relationships, was even married and divorced, and not IDGAF about any of it and just want to ride my goddamned bike (bike racer on a semi-pro team) and never mind all this relationshit.. but I've been there, done that, have the scars to prove it, can go into any bar anywhere on the face of this rediculous Earth and strike up a conversation with anyone of any gender, BECAUSE I HAVE GODDAMNED SOCIAL SKILLS, and I'm a decent looking dude, and I'm NOT FAT anymore, and I have a goddamned sense of humor.. and apparently none of you young dumb fucks have any idea what I'm talking about, you're all so goddamned focused on getting LAID that you can't conceive of anything else! I swear to GOD (that I don't even fucking believe in, that's how incredulous I am!) that there's no cure for your own bullshit other than TIME and EXPERIENCE, assuming you dumb shits even live that long! GET A FUCKING CLUE, FOR FUCK'S SAKE!

..and YES, I'M FUCKING RANTING! FUCKING DEAL WITH IT!

>>37793838
And don't forget that basically the only place where adults are around girls a lot, work, you can't try to get with them either because then stuff gets awkward at work

>>37793844

Fuck off grandpa.
Of course you don't care if you get laid. Your balls are shriveled up and ready to fall off. Jesus christ.

Can't tell if you people are actually autistic or not.

Country music and country bars/clubs/concerts. Get out there have some beer or whiskey and when they start to line dance get the fuck out there and join them. You will meet people, you will have fun, you will maybe get asked to dance and you have the chance to ask qts to two-step.

>>37793708
Just because you were a loser in high school doesn't mean life is over you pathetic cuck faggot

>>37793809
This fucking shit god damn.
>older brother is on third kid
>younger brother has had a girlfriend for a year and they are moving in together
>I've been dating floozies on a bi monthly basis that at most end up as a weekend of sex
Parents please fuck off, I'll die alone without any children, it's just the way things will be.

the worst is realizing you got fit too late, and most girls are already in relationships, which means you are stuck with single moms or crazy girls.

I admit I fucked up by not getting in shape sooner. but im not sure what to do at this point. girls 25+ are just too much of a trainwreck.

dating is pointless. im just going to get pressured into marriage that I dont want. so what the fuck do I do? seems hopeless.

at the very least maybe I can help someone younger: get fit now cause you will regret it later if you dont.

>>37793579
hahahaha upvoted :^)

>>37793886
getting fit is not the end-all-be-all of getting someone to date you autist

>>37793757
Are you implying that adults don't have an emotional needs? Humans are social animals. We're evolutionary hardwired to seek out and desire the company of others. Unless you have severe autism or some other mental impairment this should be pretty obvious.

>>37793902

listen, I have been to both extremes: fat, and very fit (10-12% bodyfat)

it is LITERALLY a different world. now I wonder how things would have been if I was in shape sooner. im well educated, can talk with anyone, but none of that mattered when I was out of shape.

now, im worth talking to just because im in shape. so dont tell me fitness is irrelevant.

>>37793879
actually a lot of times it does

>be loser in high school
>because of this you don't gain social skills and what it's like being social with people your age
>go to college, because of the lack of social skill development in high school, you have no idea what to do with the college kids your age
>end up a loser there too
>even for normies meeting people/making friends after college is difficult, let alone for people who were losers throughout school
>life over

>>37793886
I'm 21 and the girls in my age range are either taken or have babies too.

It seems if you didn't get a gf in high school you're fucked.

>>37793916
>We're evolutionary hardwired
Stopped reading my friend

>>37793844
>what the fuck did you just say about me you little bitch?

>>37793927
This x 100000.

I stopped developing socially at like age 15, I am nearly 30 now and have no idea how to even communicate with 18-30 year olds, but I can talk meme's all day with my younger cousins who are in their early teens.

>>37793927
>>37793945
Sounds like you guys are just dumb

I really think you guys are overthinking it. I'll give you autists some obvious examples

you can
>meet people through mutual friends
>meet people at bars
>meet people at concerts
>join a club of some kind and meet people there
>meet people through tinder and other stuff
>literally strike up a conversation with random people for practice

but the most important part is just living your life. staying generally attractive, interesting, and well-rounded with a few hobbies. everything else will follow

>>37793460
proximity
spontaneaty (spelling?)
openness

Be close as you can physically, go grab a drink without 2 weeks planning and be open about things that bother/scare you

>>37793937

well, im not going to mope, I know how things work now: everyone is shallow (myself included). so i'll get in the best shape possible, not for girls but because thats a goal of mine. at the same time, I understand that also increases your odds with women.

im going to try my best, and even though I may never get married I am going to have as much fun as I can before im truly "old". it will be challenging, but im up for it. at the same time, never ever settle for scraps: i'd rather be dead than be the guy who marries a 6/10 girl cause noone else wants her.

no, fuck that. I have standards and will keep them till the day I die.

>>37793844
>I'm a decent looking dude
>51 and browing 4chins

pick uno

>>37793954
thank you for the advice. i love getting advice from normal people, you guys know just wht to say

>>37793566
PUA is fine as long as its taken moderately. Learning/having confidence to approach a girl on the street is great, forces you out of all comfort zones

>>37793967

Ever tried fucking a dude before?

>>37793954
>your just like...dumb...dude

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>37793958
>meet people through mutual friends
hey bro thats my girl. Hey bro that girls with brad's cousin. Hey bro I saw her first bro dont be a dick.

>meet people at bars
pay $20 cover to buy $10 drinks in a bar filled with thirsty dudes fighting over entitled whores

>meet people at concerts
pay $200 to go to some shitty concert with 12 year olds

>join a club of some kind and meet people there
well memed

>meet people through tinder and other stuff
no point if you don't look like chad

>literally strike up a conversation with random people for practice
wow fuck off you creep

>>37793981
>Learning/having confidence to approach a girl on the street is great, forces you out of all comfort zones

Here's something I don't get, it seems like from what I hear, basically all women in their 20s are dating someone, and if they aren't there's something wrong with them. How does this approaching random women on the street without even knowing if they are single or not work

>>37793678
>How you got "pay girls to hang out" from what I wrote is beyond me.
>> after a few minutes tell them that you got tickets to whatever from a friend that works at a promotional company and ask them if they wanna go.
i should ask for compensation for these tickets i'm offering before taking her?

>>37793984

no, I know what I like

the point of my post is essentially im not going to settle for scraps, thats a terrible way to approach life. a lot of people "settle" and once you give up on your dreams or ambitions, you might as well be dead.

likewise with girls, if you fuck a 5/10 just to get your dick wet, that's terrible.

>>37793996
I guess you are right, people don't really meet or talk to each other in real life.

>>37793997
Go up, say hi, compliment, talk, ask for number, get yes or no, move on with life

>>37793958
Considering you just called me an autist, let me go down your list for you here as an aspie

>meet people through mutual friends
I don't have friends.

>bars
I don't have friends. I can;'t go to a bar alone, that is horrific

>concerts
I can't go to a concert alone

>Meet people through Tinder or other dating sites
Not only am I not good looking which is about 75% of internet dating especially Tinder, but since I have no friends I can't show myself doing stuff with people, therefore women will repel me

>conversations with random people
In this day and age, people don't really like talking to random people. They just have their headphones on or on their phones and act like random people on the street are rapists

>>37793997

You just do, strike up a conversation. If they're not single (and actually care about the person they're with) they will tell you shortly after you start flirting with them and showing sexual interest (which you should be doing). If you're a moral man, move on. If you don't care or you think she's lying act as if she said nothing or use a line to get past it.

I've been using; "that's nice, do you love him"? Some girls will outright say "NO!" which threw me off at first. Some will pause for a good moment and say "yes" to which you say "you hesitated" and continue with the conversation. Very rarely will you meet a girl who will say "yes" without pausing. I tell those ones "he's a lucky man" and move on.

>>37793460
by having friends and going out a lot

I consider /fit/ my friend, not the individuals that make it, but the entity itself

>>37794028
>I've been using; "that's nice, do you love him"? Some girls will outright say "NO!" which threw me off at first. Some will pause for a good moment and say "yes" to which you say "you hesitated" and continue with the conversation.

jesus fucking christ i literally said "eugh": out loud

>>37794024
>I can't go to a concert alone

so you're willing to miss your favorite band because no one else will go with you? fuck that, it sucks but Im not missing the opportunity man

>>37794000
You're obviously not sexy enough to have women want you to fuck em without dates, etc. You also said you wanted a social life, not a girl - I told you that you have no social life without women after college - being social costs money.

If you wanna save $40 by going places by yourself you're free to do that.

I also told you to tell women that you got the tickets free from a friend which both makes her feel like you're not spending money on her and that you're cool enough to have friends who can get free tickets to cool events.

>>37793844
You honestly sound very unintelligent desu senpai

>>37793996
wow you seem like such a positive and outgoing person, I have no idea why you're having trouble being social.

>>37794024
not sure how to help with the no friends thing. but that last part isn't completely true as long as you're decently good looking, well-groomed and not creepy

>>37793997
There lying, as a thin girl u get approached a lot that the best way to turn someone down is to simple say "sorry i have a boyfriend"

>>37794028
>I've been using; "that's nice, do you love him"? Some girls will outright say "NO!" which threw me off at first.

Not bad. I also like "are you guys going to get married?"

>>37793780
well you could go to game cons or some shit and make some friends with neckbeards

>>37794044
Not him but you should try it.

>>37793478
Dan Bilzerian pls go

>>37794077
really, just asking a girl if she has a boyfriend and then seeing if she loves him and if she says no, trying to swoop in and get her to cheat... you think that's alpha?

>>37794064
>not sure how to help with the no friends thing.

To all the normal guys in this thread who can't understand this, the hardest part about having no friends, if it's been happening for a while (like for me, I didn't really have friends in HS or college), is that you realize that just being yourself makes everyone hate you. If everyone hates you, what's the point of even trying to meet people, when clearly it has never worked in the past?

It just becomes a huge downward spiral. You didn't know anyone, so you think everyone hates you, therefore you don't try to meet people because they will hate you too. If you don't meet people, you won't get out to meet other people or girls, so you will just always be alone, for your entire life

>>37794086
>CHEATING IS BAD
t. beta

>>37794066
the fact that they get approached a lot means they always do have a boyfriend.
they're either in a relationship or transitioning to the next

Anyway , the truth of the matter is that if she was really into you, she wouldn't tell you she had a boyfriend, even if he does exist.
If she's not into you, she will say she has a boyfriend, whether he exists or not.

>>37794105
anon are there any aspects of your personality that you notice are grating to people?

normie here so I can't fully understand how you feel but I can try to relate. I know there was shit about me that annoyed people. when I was younger I was a bit of a know-it-all, socially awkward, lanky and weird, etc.
But I worked on it and I'm way more social now and girls actually find me attractive

I don't mean to be condescending or anything. but feeling sorry for yourself isn't gonna help. meet lots of people, eventually you'll find a group that's right for you.

we're all gonna make it

>>37794086
>you think that's alpha?
It's worked for animals for millions of years.

While Chad is busy eating pizza, Charlie fucks his girlfriend and climbs out the bathroom window into the night.

>>37794086
Considering, "I have a boyfriend" is number one girl cop out to get rid of guys you could be calling her bluff.

No harm in trying

look, before you get other people to like you, you have to learn to like yourself.

I am doing that via fitness. before I saw a pile of crap in the mirror. now, im in better shape than most people I see: and I am still getting better daily. and if you feel good about yourself, that will aid in other parts of your life as well.

dont beat yourself up too much, work on your own flaws first then worry about the rest.

>>37794105
Seriously, fuck you.

I never had any friends either but thinking they all hate me is stupid

>WAAH ITS NOT ME ITS THEM

No, it's you and me. Simple as that.

>>37794141
you were able to overcome the social awkwardness, i was not. just being more social if you have social awkwardness wont fix it, it will just mean you're being more socially awkward

my biggest issue is that i'm weird and also hyperactive. i'm usually good at making people laugh, but it's basically just a class clown kind of thing i guess. i never actually bother to try to hang out with people, because i dont see the point when everyone hates me

>>37794171
you think i'm blaming "them" for not liking me? i have no idea where you got that, i completely blame myself. they hate me because i'm such a worthless piece of shit, not because they are mean people

Put yourself in awkward situations and get used to it. Thats pretty much it, you have to learn on the fly and be embarrased for about a year doing it before youll click into how social onteractions work

>>37794182
They don't hate you, you hate yourself.

>>37794182
they hate you because you hate yourself m8

>>37794188
>>37794194
i dont get it?

>>37794182
I basically just did>>37794186
Plus general self-improvement. Dressing better, getting fit, standing up straight.

Just do it man. What do you have to lose. The fact that you're so negative turns being unlikeable into a self-fulfilling prophecy

you have to admit though, going out solo and meeting people is pretty fucking hard as an adult

outside of a job, wtf do you do?

Unless you're annoying or overly awkward, 90% of people will let you tag along to parties and stuff when you ask them

>>37794210
there's nothing to get. you don't like yourself, so people don't like you. if you liked yourself, people would like you.

>>37794213
it's really hard to be positive when your entire life has been complete shit.

i dont make my interactions with people about how much of a worthless bitch i am or anything. yeah im a little self-deprecating sometimes if it comes but for the most part im cracking jokes and making people laugh. i guess im just too weird, probably mean, and ugly for people to want to spend time with me

and it isnt even like i'm some cocoon when out in public, not talking to anyone. usually in a new environment i actually do kind of be social, it's just that people don't care about doing stuff with me when they arent forced to it seems

>>37794238
>Unless you're annoying or overly awkward,

welp

I am almost 25 and I have never asked a girl out once. Never even asked a girl "Hey do you want to go do ______________".

I know that if I tried to do anything with a girl, she would quickly see that I am a friendless autist, who is incredibly boring and is a shut-in, whose only value is making observational comedy about the things going on around me

>>37793646

I think this is the case for a great many people. The only friends I have are friends I made in college. I can still have a great time with them even after not having seen them for 5 years.

Almost all of my new friends after that are more like activity partners, cool/chill acquaintances, work buddies, etc. I made maybe 2, 3 good friends at work after school.

>>37794249
You don't have to talk about how terrible you are for people to pick up on your self-hatred. Try improving yourself, or maybe see a therapist. No shame in it anon.

>>37793748

Why so mad sperg

>>37794249
The single best thing I did for my social life was learning Japanese and doing language exchange. They were insanely friendly, I had something to offer (teaching/helping) with English, I got to learn a language, which is great because your learning the basics of talking from the ground up, deconstructing conversations, finding common ground in culture.

Did I mention they were friendly? Social as fuck too, I always assumed Japanese were shy but in their own groups they are social as fuck, I got invited to dinner parties where normally Id assume maybe 5-6 people but these were sometimes 20+, I was meeting people and practicing how to with so many people in one night, it was like the gym for social skills. Like mentioned in another post I had to embarass myslef, unintentially of.course many times, I still cringe.

Theres ways out but you have to not be a downer

>>37794280
>You don't have to talk about how terrible you are for people to pick up on your self-hatred.

This!

It comes out in your sub-communication. Your micro-expressions, body language, your eye contact. People know exactly how you feel about yourself even if you think you're hiding it well and being social.

>>37794279
Get a thousand dollars, and fuck as many prostitutes as you can with that money. Quantity, not quality, and get good at giving it to women good. Hard and good. No kissing, no foreplay, just pounding, You're on /fit/ so if you aren't muscled already read the fucking sticky.

Take your new found pussy destroying abilities and you muscle (regardless of otter mode or zyzz) and approach women. You'll do alright if you can convey to them that you're cunt slayer.

>>37794274
>>37794274
If you havent tried you dont know, say that exact line to 20 girls and Id bet you get at least one number and some fun conversations.

>>37793844

Nice blog post you old faggot.

>>37793774
Are you seeking pity?
All you can do is look foward

>>37794321

Was meant for
>>37794274

>>37793838

Bars and clubs aren't really a meme. They're just really inefficient ways of meeting people you'd like to be around more than a day or two.

The meetups thing seems like a meme to me. I've tried it, and even groups with 10k+ "members" have trouble with attendance. Unless you get really lucky and the few weirdos or new-to-town folks who showed up happen to mostly click, the best you can really get out of it is activity partners / acquaintances.

Church is pretty legit in terms of friends and girls. But it comes with its own horrible baggage, and from my experiences growing up in the church I will never, ever go down that route again.

>>37793619
WTF is a Drake?

>>37794343

I just hate the fucking culture of bars and clubs, with the dudes trying to act all macho and aggressive and the girls thinking they're hot shit.
Hitting on people at work or school is so iffy because if it goes bad it creates an awkward environment for a potentially long time.
It seems like there really isn't any consistently good way and you just have to get out there and hope something happens.

>>37794414

Make friends with people first then make your moves

You don't have to start off with hitting on them, get to know them and get comfortable then with time and judgement throw an invitation out there

>>37794414
Daytime out and about works good imo

>>37794430
recipe for just friends if you fuck up though

>>37794414
Make friends with people at school/work, meet people through them. That way you don't shit where you eat and you get to maintain a friendship with the added benefit of possibly getting to fuck their friends

This is pathetic, even for /fit/ standards.

Hate to be that liberal faggot, but maybe you should consider a more alt or progressive lifestyle?

Not even trolling. Let me tell you about a friend of mine(he's actually in his 40's, I'm in my 20's).

He's moved to 4 different countries in his life and he has made friends everywhere he has went. I'm not trying to being polemical by suggesting a liberal lifestyle, but it does seem like Republics and/or normies are not interested in anything outside of girlfriend/wife/job/family/old friends.

>>37794430
>>37794465

yea.. it makes sense. personally the problem is that the program i'm in (software engi) is all autistic dudes and usually the jobs I get are the same. I'll keep trying though...

>>37793779
I don't know man, I have plenty of female friends. And the girls I'm talking about have plenty of male friends too. Normal people interact with each other, you know.

Also, beggars can't be choosers.

There are ton of people out there who are lonely. Some of them might even be normal, but have just moved to different areas and/or outgrew their previous friends.

Same thing with women. It is a numbers game, though. You have to be mentally prepared to accept that you are going to fail more often than you succeed...but you will succeed eventually.

Join a Sports team. The camaraderie will lead to friendships.
Get a waiter job for weekends. Same as above, extra cashola and it'll give you new perspective on life.

>>37794105

this is true

I remember that i get surprised when someone acts nicely towards me, even if everyone does that most of the time, it just feels so uncommon

>>37793460
> have facebook account
> read some stuff like "how to be nice"
> join some random groups of my interest
> chat with people there, make some "virtual" friends
> meet them

This is how I meet my last girlfriend. Facebook group, some random talks with people, found one I like chatting with, ask to meet, we meet, we fuck, now we are just talking (300km apart, so no chance for real relationship), but we talk daily.

Other girl I fucked few monts ago I meet at chatroom, found out she was in the same theme room and the same city room as I was, asked to meet, we meet. we were friends for years (it was like I friendzoned her, not the other way around), then I get new, hot body thanks to /fit/ and she almost raped me not so long ago.

I started a facebook group for my homecity activity I like (for you it might be running, or street workout, or... don't know, herbs gathering?), after a few weeks I asked them to go out and make a campfire, they did, I got some new friends.

But first, you have to learn how to talk. Read some books liks "how to influence people", practice it online at some chatrooms or with people you know in real life, if you know some.

I'm socially awkward, I hate drinking, bars and so on. I can't strike up random convo with a stranger and befriend him. Yet I can get social circle within days if I want to.

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>>37793844

ayyy i prefer to be lonely than writing this post

>>37794321

this was my plan tqbh family but i stopped being an autist lately and saw how stupid it was

>>37794066
Where do you even get approached at?

>>37793844
41 old here and I agree with every single word (not with the tone of it). Social skills are like muscles, you have to train them. People in this thread are like HAES, "no you can't be thin", "no it's impossible to get good body". Fuck you, guys. It is possible and people are doing it daily. It's not easy and you have to train, and it hurts, and it will hurt you more. But you can do it. One day you may.... start convo with a stranger.

>>37794344
A male duck

>>37793748
>idiots like you who are on the front lines
that's where they belong

>>37793708
>once you're out of highschool
I'll say this in the kindest, most sympathetic way I can: kill yourself.

>>37794704
>>37793844
The thing is, that if you guys actually are as old as you claim, you will have grown up in the real world, with real human beings, while we all grew up in front of the computer in a fucked up upside-down clown world filled with organic humanoid chatbots instead of people.

>>37793774
start playing dota
i'm serious

>>37794614
>(for you it might be running, or street workout, or... don't know, herbs gathering?)

ah, me again - get some hobbies. Things you can talk with people about, you know - music (play something, read about some bands you like), cooking food, books, movies, game of thrones. And remember - no one like i-know-it-all type, work on it, work on your voice tone (record yourself if you have to), and no, games are not "hobby".

>>37794779
41 old here, yeah, when I was young there was no vidya, I was outside all the time. But I am here, so it counts for something - I was more socially awkward than some players today. I worked on it. worked hard. As I wrote here >>37794785
I was forced to work on my voice, because I sounded like an angry teenager, or teacher who is correcting a pupil.

>>37793844
>YES, I'M FUCKING RANTING! FUCKING DEAL WITH IT!
thanks for the copypasta
also how the fuck did you find this place

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>>37794810
The thing is that everyone is fucked up, wrong and "off" now. I honestly don't feel like I am experiencing reality but am stuck in a bad, nonsensical dream.

>>37794828
maybe you have some mental issues then, such as clinical depression or something. Try high doses of omega 3 or something, here you can find a list

http://depression.healthytreatment.org/

>>37793774
>and you ain't never had

Jesus.

>>37793757
*tips Fedora with cheetos fingers*
No one likes you

>>37794855
I don't believe depression is real, it is just various degrees of lethargy experienced as one lives in a world where the spirit has left

>>37794887
whatever you say, I say omega 3 can fix it as it was proven with clinical trials.

>>37794887
oh, and no one likes self-absorbed crybabies

>>37794894
I have been taking 4 grams of fish oil a day, eating fatty fish 3 times a week and drink shakes with chia seeds, cocoa and blueberries daily. I still feel this way.

I've concluded that it is a spiritual deficiency present in all creation, not of a material nature.

>>37794903
>I have been taking 4 grams of fish oil a day
2000 mg EPA for 6 months to feel the difference. For some brands of fish oil it's like 10 grams daily.

>>37794912
Meant to put that I've been doing it for years.

The brand has 400mg EPA according to the label.

>>37794694
A woman will not forgive you for being bad at working a hole. So if you wanna practice on a woman you like and have her leave you because they expect you to be good and not need training, go ahead.

The DC Madam serviced senators and congressman exclusively but it's nice to know that anon's too good for whores.

>>37794923
try other things then, carnosine, zinc, D3, you have the list on the website - they are good for lifting, too.

im going to start uni in september , does uni give you an opportunity to make friends?

>>37793680
Wtf not every conversation with a female is about getting some good good. Have you actually talked to humans in situations where you weren't forced to?

>>37794781
Puta madre ctm horas nob
Pobre fuck report .I.
Fuck Dota

>>37794887
> t. I'm smart but lazy

>>37794887
>I don't believe in a well documented and universally accepted medical illness rooted in emotional and environmental conditions as well as physiological ones

ffs you're as bad as climate change deniers and 6,000 year-old earthers

>>37794947
absolutely
you have a chance to start with a clean slate if you are social retarded
talk to people and be outgoing
usually over the first few weeks you meet people that you have a connection with

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My suggestion is stick to the same type of people as you, at least that's how i worked it out:

>average smart kid in HS
>get bullied somewhat, but not to a large extent since i just """ignored""" them
>90% of other guys are your typical "dude brah getting wasted on friday ayooo hol up!" (a lot of girls, too)
>i spent most of my time studying since i wasn't in a position where my life was all set
>got into dental school, started lifting and flirting with qts, got confident and cleaned up my minor autismo
>8 years forwards from HS
>90% of the guys are out of shape (even though we're all barely 30), have low-wage jobs, some of them are already married with 6/10s fatties
>old classmate girls start adding me on Facebook and trying to hit me up
>i am with a very secure job, high pay and social standing
>i go to seminars once every 2 months and meet some of the most interesting people there are out there
>mom patients in their 40' and 50's and always trying to hook me up with their daughters because everyone else around is a poorfag faggot

Best bet is to find social interaction with people with the same interests as you, just be a normal human bean and fix that autismo

>>37795170
>their feet
Every time anon, every time

>>37795170
While that's fair and reasonable, it's also very insular and cowardly. One should aim to rub elbows with all mankind rather than picking and choosing. Life doesn't just let you do the latter.

I was in law and I found that elitist attitude kept people close-minded and small.

>>37793478
That's a lie. get some actual friends, i think you can find some in college, so it's not too late for you.

>>37795233

I've had patients/friends of all kids on caliber. After some time you just get tired of putting up with their bullshit t,b,h f,a,m

>Stalk girl you used to know a few years ago
>Wait till you see her going to some event on facebook
>Go there and look for her
>Find her, go talk to her, talk about how long it's been, etc
>Ask if she'd wanna catch up afterwards over some coffee or something
>Fuck her that night
>Now have a possible gf/social life
At least that's what I'm doing

>>37793831
normalfags will never understand

its up to you to figure your shit out and pull yourself out of this hole
r9k will just drag you back in

>>37795363
I just can't sympathise. When I worked with underprivileged and/or potentially lower-class families and individuals I found they often had as much to offer as anyone in the social circles you talk about. Intelligence manifests in so many ways that writing people off simply for not expressing it in a way you approve of strikes me as manifestly unintelligent.

>>37793839
>why do guys approach girls?
Because they want to fuck
>guys and girls can be friends but most of the time that doesnt work
You can't just throw off millions of years of evolution and adaptation, it's in the fucking genes.

>>37793748
never go full retard

>>37793997
I used to do a lot of cold approach freshman year o f college and had some success with girls who had boyfriends. 100% of them had a boyfriend and I successfully got their number and hooked up with most of them. They say that as a defense mechanism but the truth is girls will fuck whoever makes them feel good (majority of the time).

Cold approach is a little try hard but it did drastically improve my confidence and made me okay with the unknown and let me realize that life is nothing to be feared. When I stopped doing cold approach, my confidence funnily dropped.
I kind of think of cold approach as hitting the gym. The hotter the girl and riskier the situation, it's like you are about to hit a new pr. You get more and more comfortable with riskier and unknown situations which make you have more self trust to handle the unknown thus making you adaptable to any situation, which is what Darwin said makes you the strongest.

>>37793774
between the lines you´re a real fucking asshole and pathetic. you want to be a victim while not actively trying to do anything to change your lifestyle.
i wouldnt hang out with this guy he knows he´s a loser and nobody wants to be with losers

>>37793460
why bother lmao. if u alone u can become insane and u feel pretty good ather that

>>37793844
u got problems grandpa lmao

>>37793619
Are you talking about escort prostitution?

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>>37795709
DUDE

MOM'S GONNA FREAK

>>37794497
>the girls I'm talking about have plenty of male friends too

Cuck

>>37793844
Sadly here we see the first signs of a neurodegenerative disorder.

>>37793774
Your relationship with honesty needs a reboot, polite society is about lubing each other up so the differences aren't that repulsive. Just read, write and go travelling for a year or two and you're guaranteed to tick all those boxes because that is why other people do it.

>>37793779
>girls know guys chat them up not for conversation, but cause they want to sleep with them

and they love it. As soon as you notice they are enjoying it, take the free trial away from them and watch them follow.

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>>37793748

>>37793844
Wow, you sound really stupid. No one really cares about that gregarious idiot that talks their ears off for a few minutes at the airport bar, the kind who's self-identity revolves around being "friendly" and "sociable". You amuse strangers for a few minutes here and there, and then they go about their lives having quickly forgotten you. And after they've forgotten you, they're thinking about where they'll meet their partner, because if you go to any bar, club, or live music show, 99% of the mental energy and preparation (from makeup to picking out their wardrobes) of the people there is focused on attracting their ideal mates. If you don't realize this because you're so wrapped up in your pretensions of being the likeable dude who can talk to anyone anywhere, good for you, you oblivious, boring old fart. One-off chats with people like you are just short reprieves from the mate-seeking game that everyone is playing when they go to "social" events; otherwise, no one gives a fuck about strangers. Maybe you need to talk to some northern europeans to more clearly understand how too many participation awards as a child turned you into another oblivious american who doesn't have the faintest clue as to what's going on around him.

>>37795707
>between the lines im pathetic
>literally first line is calling myself the biggest loser here

>want to be a victim

I'm not blaming anyone for my situation but myself

>not actively trying to do anything to change your lifestyle.

I don't even know what to do at this point really. I've gone so long as a loser with no social development that I won't even know what to do to improve it.

>>37799196
Time, practice and exposure

>>37799196
>I don't know what to do at this point.

This line is completely bullshit and you fucking know it. The internet is vast and there are ton of resources so don't give anyone that sad, pathetic excuse . If you want it badly enough you will find a way so don't go around spouting these sad sad sad excuses.

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>>37794619
Please do.

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>>37793996
Save this post. And if the question ever come up why you are lonely with no friends and only a left hand to play with reread this sad and pathetic post.

>>37795379
What are your lifts and stats?

>>37797358
No, people do that because they are unique middle class shit-snowflakes who have the inherited financial position to do that.

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Why do you guys need friends?

>>37793460
Real talk; almost everyone just makes friends with the people they work with. I have like 3 friends outside work and I rarely see them. Otherwise my current friends are just whoever my colleagues are.

>>37800169
>time
i'm 24 years old

>practice and exposure
ive been exposed and practicing for 24 years and have nothinh to show for it

>>37793844
>YES IM FUCKING AUTISTIC DEAL WITH IT

Go back to your containment board, robot.

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>>37793566

>Gives the same advice the PUA guys give
>says "dont read PUA shit"

>>37794781
Why do you say that? I play dota and I'm still a forever alone loser but now I can say I have 4.5k mmr in some PC game no girls play

>>37793958
>>37793958
autist here

>mutual friends
i have no friends

>bars, concerts
i've been to bars alone. it was sad. everyone is with a group already. i don't know what to say

>club of some kind
very rare adult clubs

>meet people through tinder
i'm not good looking enough for tinder

>random people
what do i even say?

>>37794785
>Things you can talk with people about, you know - music (play something, read about some bands you like), cooking food, books, movies, game of thrones. And remember - no one like i-know-it-all type, work on it, work on your voice tone (record yourself if you have to),
i read books, watch movies and have read/watched game of thrones. are these hobbies, how do i meet people with these interests?

what if i don't even know how to talk about these things? i'm autistic and can't even converse about something i know about

>>37802117
plz respond. how do i think of things to say?

>>37801846

what? PUA stuff is garbage but appearance matters more than everything as your first impression is always physical

>>37802117
start chatting with people online, just like you did with me right now. Books aren't that great to start convo, but they may be essential to keep it up. To meet people you need hobbies like urban exploration, tenis, running and so on. No friends in the new city? Join local club for runners. Then you need something to talk about, like movies, books and so on. And let them talk, they will and they will be happy if they can find someone who will listen to them.

>>37803057
>start chatting with people online,
as a training, you know, you can make mistakes online without consequences, not so much in real life where your local reputation can be tarnished.

>>37802117
one more hint - do NOT make fun of others. It's popular on this toxic board, shittalk about fatties, crossift, vegans and so on. In real life no one likes haters. I am vegetarian, I have some friends with really shitty background (criminals, hools, skinheads and so on), and the only places where someone make shitty comments about my life choices are boards for autists, like this one. I don't shit on their choice of meat eating, too - mutual respect, you know.

>>37803179
You're a faggot

>>37803266
and you'll die lonely :(

http://www.artofmanliness.com/2013/04/17/how-to-make-friends-in-a-new-city/

>Turning 30 in 2 months
>No gf
>Parents want grandchildren
>It's getting to the point where they are looking for single women across the globe who would potentially marry me

LEAVE.
ME.
ALONE.

>>37803786
You a Sept birthday m8?
>TFW turning 30 on 9/12 this year.
>tfw 15th birthday was horrible thanks to 9/11

>>37793918
You do have a point that being fit is a real bonus boost but it is a double edged sword.

You get too fit and you attract the wrong girls. The girls that go clubbing every week.

You get too fit and that qt librarian who's too shy to talk to you will just think you're out of her league.

If you lack social skills, YOU ARE SCREWED.

You'll get all of the mires in the world being /fit/ but it still doesn't make up for social skills or a personality. Don't be fooled...

>>37793927
This but reverse

>have no problem talking to people older than me
>have no problem talking to kids
>suffer from extreme anxiety just thinking about having to talk to someone around my age

A-Anyone else?

>>37803885

at this point I truly believe that looks are all that matters

if you look good girls dont care, people treat you better just for looking good. it just feels like nothing else matters to other people, just have a nice appearance and people will be good to you.

cause when I was out of shape I was basically invisible, noone even looks at you.

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>>37793844

>>37793708

Do you not see the hypocrisy in this statement? You complain that meetups are just dudes looking for chicks while complaining there are no chicks. Why do you specifically want chicks there instead of just making friends with the guys? To try and fuck them? You are exactly the type of person you're complaining about.

>>37803806
Yea bro. On the 27th.
Sorry to hear that. Happy birthday in advance. We're gonna make it

How to get friends in 20-s

>join a weightlifting, powerlifting or crossfit club

>take a hobby, mountain climbing, indoor rock climbing, reading or poetry clubs, book clubs

For example I just recently joined in a airsoft club, last weekend was on a massive battle. Shit is expensive, the equipment and guns, but met a lot of guys, after that we drink chat and have a fun. Most of them are army, engineer, history enthusiasts so we hang out outiside the club events too.

I know it's a little autistic, but when you're in 20-s and with literally no friends, you just gotta do what you gotta do. Find a club or smth

>>37804026

how do you even find adult clubs

I dont want to meet up with bronies or other retards

>>37803961
>if you look good girls dont care
Early on, you are correct

>people treat you better just for looking good.
Yes

>it just feels like nothing else matters to other people, just have a nice appearance and people will be good to you.
This is true.

>cause when I was out of shape I was basically invisible, noone even looks at you.
I don't disagree with anything you're saying. I wasn't fat but I was skinny. I got picked on for different reasons then you but it was still bad if not worse. I don't know what its like to be fat but when I was a hungry skelly, people still thought I was still in elementary school even though I was in college. Height didn't even make up for this (6'0).

I'm not sure what your point is (is it 'being fit is all that matters?)
If so, this depends on who you're trying to attract.
A girl who wears booty shorts and exposes cleavage will get all the attention in the world but she's attracting a bunch of thirsty perverts who see her as nothing more than an object.

How you handle yourself when you're around others or in public is still very important.

>>37804042

i dunno breh, use google, facebook shit like that.

For example last month I saw some hearthstone fireside gathering in my town, not exactly a multi million city in Europe, but still, a lot of people showed up, granted, majority of them were autistic and I was "normie" there, but met a couple of cool dudes.


The point is, you gotta find some thing and hang out with the "enthusiasts", becouse most people at that age already have gf/bf/wifes/husbands and their friends, and they just move in that circle, when you are fucked up neet like most of us are, your only hope are these enthusiast clubs or just getting hammered at clubs and hope meeting someone.

>>37804094

im not arguing looks are the only thing that matters, but ability to socialize is irrelevant if you are ugly/fat/whatever.

in fact, the better you look the less you need to worry about being well spoken/etc, I think. you can get away with more cause well, you look hot. at the end of the day, that cute girl you see isnt going to give you the time of day unless you are attractive. we're all superficial.

>>37793460
>How does one get a social life in their mid-late 20s?

Go to free events that take place in your city. A goldmine. Literally

Malls.

Library.

If none of these work, join the army. It is virtually impossible to fail here.

>>37793460
>tfw social autist, 6 MAYBE 7/10, and girls still throw themselves at me

Do people here avoid women or are they gay? I'm not even /fit/ andI have no trouble getting 8's. Everyone here must be ugly, non-white, poor, manlets

>>37793478
>2016 and anon cant make friends with anyone anon meets

Why even live? I've made thirty some friends this weekend alone and gotten laid twice in the process

>>37804123
>im not arguing looks are the only thing that matters, but ability to socialize is irrelevant if you are ugly/fat/whatever.
Ah, I see.

>in fact, the better you look the less you need to worry about being well spoken/etc, I think.
Sadly, this has some truth to it. Especially if you're a girl.

>you can get away with more cause well, you look hot. at the end of the day, that cute girl you see isnt going to give you the time of day unless you are attractive. we're all superficial.

You are right to a degree. Money will blind people. Money can replace looks. You're still right in that it boils down to us being superficial, greedy, selfish, etc but that's life.

If you're looking for someone who doesn't meet the norm, you're only option is finding someone at a church or something. You'll have trouble finding someone who looks past these things otherwise. Especially if you're looking for someone in their 20's

>>37804217

im not expecting to find a unicorn, I just accept that looks matter, a lot. at the same time im well educated and can socialize well, so the social bit shouldnt be an issue. all I lacked before was the look.

and surprise, now that im fit, people find me interesting!

>tfw 28 yo just graduated business school
>was a total m'lady-tier scrub all the way into college
>Got in shape in the last year and already have a good job (thanks dad)
>A few months ago met a solid 9/10 19yo qt who doesn't have daddy issues (and is going to an ivy league college next year) at yoga class.
>I fucked one of her cousins last Friday and will be going to a concert with another ~21yo qt this weekend.

I can't tell if the people in this thread are fucking retarded or if I was just baited into this.

I aint ever been good at socializing/picking up grrls but cheesus, unless you're batshit ugly, disgustingly fat or flat out fucking autistic it's not hard to make friends and meet a girls left and right.

>>37804264

>just be yourself

you arent ugly then.

>>37804249
Doesn't it bother you that people who find you interesting (mostly because of your looks) wouldn't give you a second look if you hadn't gotten /fit/?

How do you resolve this?

>>37793774
SS+GOMAD

>>37804311

yes, it irritates me a lot. I mean, I understand why (people like good looking people), but at the same time im bitter that noone gave a shit till I improved my appearance. despite being smart or friendly or whatever, that doesnt mean shit.

however, it makes sense cause all our first impressions are physical. it does suck though how much appearance matters, and how little you as an individual (other than appearance) does.

I want to look good because I want to be at my best, it isnt specifically for girls. at the same time, I know that having a great body will make things easier socially. it would be cool if girls showed interest based on your personality, but that doesnt really matter. I have seen countless examples of girls dating guys that are pieces of shit, and have little to offer than looks.

I mean, I do it too. if im at a mall, I actively filter out girls that arent attractive. but I notice a 10/10 right away. now, I dont treat people like shit based on appearance, but I understand why looking better is so important.

>>37804375
I was a bit weary that you might get to the point where you just seek revenge or take out your angst on those who were once in your shoes like so many on here do but you seem to have your head on your shoulders in that department.
I've appreciated getting to know your insight.
Thanks for the discussion mate.

>>37804446

nah im not mad, im more motivated than ever to be at my best. not cause of other people, but I want to be really fit. fuck average.

and besides, even though I dont lift for girls, sluts is a pretty decent perk.

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>>37793555
>checked

it's reality

>>37804375
I don't know man, I know shittons of ugly guys and ugly girls and they have no problems makings friends. Maybe you have nothing to offer except for looks, so when you looks good people see it - and only it?

>>37803990
Y-y-you too breh. September children are best children.

>>37793780
>What do a bunch of dudes hanging around do?
It's a lot like how you hang out with your friend when you were a kid.
Just hanging out in general. Talking, eating, playing sports, playing video games together.

>>37793646
I'm also 29, almost the same boat. It's basically a time to work.

>>37793844
This guy fucking gets it.

People are people, and you can talk to them. In fact, you need to be able to talk to them.

>>37793748

I am curious if you are a girl. Your writing is coming off that way, well at least to me it is.

>>37794067

use "yeah? whens the wedding?"

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Any other guys feel like they can't breathe? Like, after everything I've been through I just want to constantly avoid most people but at the same time I have the urge to seek out this feeling of relief I can't describe.

It's not friendship. It's not love. But I know I'll recognize it when I find it and I have no idea what I'll do when I get there.

Right now, a few seconds ago I posted on a facebook regional wall, inviting people to run together.

>>37804203
Lol you call people you've met one weekend friends?

>>37793844
...scooby?

>>37793996
then kill yourself faggot.

>>37806432
Company is what you want.

All the social benefits without the comitment.
At least thats how I would describe it, because I feel exactly the same as you.

>>37793774
eat clen
and
tren hard

eh who am i kidding, this is just another validation (you) for you isn't it, you pathetic man.

grow a pair, self respect is important, and only comes when you are doing something to earn your self respect

>>37793478
That's literally the most autistic post I've ever read and I don't think you're trolling either

>>37794142

fucking KEK

loli, you're slowly turning into my favourite trip
but lotus is #1 so you still got a way to go

>>37794308
>Did I mention they were friendly? Social as fuck too
You have to understand you're probably meeting Japanese people that are very interested in foreign language, foreign culture, studying abroad, or just socializing in general in order for you to observe them in the occasions you were in.
But do what you like, anon. It'll help you no matter what.

>>37793940
this

>>37795170
This is a joke right?

>>i am with a very secure job, high pay and social standing
>>>mom patients in their 40' and 50's and always trying to hook me up with their daughters because everyone else around is a poorfag faggot

And your advice is:

>find social interaction with people with the same interests as you

Normies have no self-awareness.

>>37794947
As someone who just finished five years of uni without getting laid once or making a single friend from it, make sure you put effort into your studies and your social life, cut out video games and 4chan as much as possible

>>37804026
>shit is expensive
>airsoft is expensive
Dude. It's far from expensive if you're not the kind of extreme milsim guy that only wears what SOF actually wear on the battlefield and mount real deal optics on airsoft gun.
It's far from expensive.
There are a lot of hobbies require far more funds than airsoft. Such as ballroom dancing, scuba diving, model railroad, cars, etc.
>>37801272
>ive been exposed and practicing for 24 years and have nothinh to show for it
So either keep actively practicing it or stfu.
It's like trying to learn to play a sports that you know you're bad at and probably will never be good at.
But this time you have to learn and play it no matter what.
You probably still suck at the end. Consider the amount of effort you put in. But you'll never be what you used to be.

>>37793774
You just described most of the people on this godforesaken website but at least do something about it.