/fraud/ general

>>37787856
first post for ugh, reminding you that touching female butts is healthy for you. Even doctors recommend doing it daily.

>>37787856
>Onaholes
whuts that?

Opie and anthony...holes?

SAM!?

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>>37787856
Realistically, what are the long-term risks of steron use?
Will voiding my natty card render me unable of producing normal offspring?
Will my heart explode before my hair goes full white? As in: any long-term effects on the circulatory system?

[Considering I get the doses and PCT in check]

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>>37787590
I post the best pictures you turd burglar.

>>37787949
>posting pictures of women
when will this meme end

>>37787949
how long you been on the blast you have as your name?

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>>37787961
It is an IMAGE forum. Would you rather I post a bunch half naked dudes you fruit bowl?

/fraud/ I want to get into to gear, but my biggest issue is finding it. How the fuck do I locate a supplier?

Also how is this for a beginners stack: 450mg 1x/wk Deca, 50mg/day Dbol?

Clomid for PCT I think if I'm doing my research and understanding correctly.

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>>37787998
It's an anime image board
Post 2d girls

>>37787898
They're excellent but they make your balls hurt

>>37787998
yes

>>37787919
how bout u use google u dumb faggot

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Anyone have info on mk667?

>>37788000
mirin the trips, but that stack will give you a nice limp dick if you like limp dicks.
>>37788053
increases growth hormone, cheaper than hgh

>>37788073
Any sides? Is it worth it for running say 1 month w lgd and osta?

>>37788073
What does MK667 do? Of HGH for that matter? I've never researched growth hormones, or anything related to it.

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>>37788107
Then research it...

>>37788086
Stop falling for memes

>>37788086
it will increase muscle mass and recovery, make you sleep more and eat more. It's expensive. Use it with proper steroids or just go natty.

>>37788107
it increases hgh production. What does growth hormone do? It makes things grow. You know, like your muscles and body and shit.

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>>37787996
Two weeks?
>>37788040
There are like 5 boards dedicated to 2d shit.
>>37788041
Fine. Don't get too excited when you think about tongue punching this guy in the dirt star.

>>37788256
distinct lack of bulge... you can do better m8

>>37788040
trump will never win bb

>>37788256
how long was the gap between your last blast?

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>>37788273
Here's another hot ass dude for you.
>>37788283
At least nine months. Long story.

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>>37788256
Well Yeah its a Japanese based website

>>37788282
He's going to make anime real
And make tge Mexicans pay for it

>>37788334
>its a Weeaboo based website

ftfy

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>>37788352
Works for me

>>37788133
>mk667 isn't a meme
>but lgd is
nice one retard

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>>37788435
Been running lgd for a month now and have seen good results, just wondering if mk667 is worth running for only a month until I get off of the sarm train

Has anyone whos done gear tried sarms as well?

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>>37782314
>But honestly I think people just talked this stuff up way too much
Nig, I got nostril pumps on Sdrol. Stuff's insane. Until your liver goes into the shitter.

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What do you think this guy is running ?

>>37788584
a lot

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>>37788517
Sdrol always makes me piss rust when I wake up. Nothing else did that to me except 12wks of epi and winny.

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>>37788627
Define a lot ? in his facebook posts he claims that when he goes offcycle he keeps all his mass by training with the same weights and taking test boosters.

>>37788506
my first "cycle" was LGD-4033 only, 8 weeks @ 5mg ed. it wasn't close to my first real cycle (typical 500mg/wk test e 12 weeks cycle, done about 2 months later) but it definitely worked and I got a good 10 pounds out of it.

my test was definitely suppressed, I could tell that much, but I didn't feel it too much and I kept my gains very well. would definitely recommend to people too scared to pin/too scared of AAS sides, but yeah, it's no steroids.

lifting beginner who needs some advice about starting a cycle:

i've been lifting for ~8 months (5 of those seriosuly), going between a brosplit and SS. though im 19 5'5 130lb 19% bf, is it a good idea to start a cycle? I have reliable access to all pharms and money is not an issue. i know that beginners should not cycle untill they reach their natty limit (plus the fact that im relatively young), but desu i really want to see faster results and bang sluts in college. should i start cycling??

>>37788653
yes

yolo pussy

im an indian virgin who is fucking frustrated at this fucking world, and not too autistic - i seriosuly think test would boost my self confidence and happiness. add to the fact that i went through puberty late as fuck and still look like im 14, makes me want to take test for its androgenic side effects. thoughts?

>>37788653
the list of reasons to not start just go on as you write. But lets be honest you've already made your mind up.

>>37788651
I dont fucking know do I you bellend, 1g tren

>>37788667
>>37788657

does the added info make any difference? i just want to bang some ez college pussy desu senpai and join a top tier frat

>>37788053
yeah, 12.5mg a day avoids bloat and keeps IGF levels at superhuman levels 24 hours a day. its indespensible imo and should beused all the time and before sterons

>>37788665
that sounds like a fucking terrible idea. But most people take steroids to compensate for their crippling insecurities. So if you do it, youll be in good company like myself...but its not advisable

>>37788648
>implying he ever goes off cycle

its 2016 boy

>>37788653
>i know that beginners should not cycle untill they reach their natty limit

who told you that?
the only issue is the age, i would wait 2 years but you are almost old enough

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>>37788648
>test boosters

>>37788676
your bf is high, your age is too low, your joints have experienced too few amounts of lifts, your routine and diet are probably poor. the list goes on, your growth plates probably havent even closed yet. But do what you want who am i to stop you

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>>37788648
HGH Slin grams of tren, grams of test, grams of deca lots of orals

A combination of the above.

>claims
I claim Ronnie was natty when he won the Olympia.

See how easy that was.

>>37788630
Took less than a week of Sdrol for my piss to be constant dark and my digestion to go into the shitter.

>>37788708
thanks anons for the constructive advice - it really means a lot to me

>>37788705

how much difference would 2 years make? would it increase my chances of recovering to natty test levels after PCT?

my current test levels are 360 ng/dl btw (got them tested). they seem low as fuck, and it seems like whatever effort i put in via diet/training doesnt let me recover fast enough in the gym. fuck my shitty ass genetics.

>>37788667
>I dont fucking know do I you bellend, 1g tren
what did you just say to me

>>37788761
oh 360ng/dl total test and 5.6ng/dl free test

>>37788761
Dont do that i did test for 1 year straight , it didnt fixed my mental problems just gave me gains and help me lose fat but it wont make you alpha . Now i regret it when i started i have the same natty t levels like u and after i stopped i basicily had close to 0 test wich resulted in a huge depression until today.

>>37788791
>year on
>not blasting and cruising

>>37787919
What the other faggot said just Google: impotence, hair loss, cardiovascular disease, prosthetic enlargement and infertility are all real long term side effects. If, when and to what degree they start is different for each person and nobody can predict the future.

>>37788791
damn anon im sorry to hear that :(

how long was your cycle and did you do PCT??

>>37788791
t. retard who didn't pct properly after cruising

>>37788648
>test boosters
Hilarious

>>37788665
Listen you subhuman animal, we don't need any more fucking piece of shit indians here. Every day we have literal fucking indians trying the same shit you try, and it does not FUCKING WORK because indians are just inferior.

Go on /r/steroids and 50% of the "first cycle" posts are by indian subhumans like yourself, who get 0 results and are still beta. It is in your genetics to be trash, steroids will not change this.

Go back into fucking slavery where you belong

>>37788801
I certainly hope he was blasting and cruising and didn't blast for a year straight

>>37788801
dude i had to stop because my bloodwork was shit , i also got a shitload of bacne from it.
>>37788804
I got so depressed after i stopped so i didnt give a shit about pct and shit , i just went off
>>37788805

>>37788828
it was 500 mg test for 1 year straight.

>>37788820
wow that was really unpleasant and unnecessary what a horrible human being you are

>>37788820
gr8 b8 m8 r8 8/8

i've been decent results, which have been improving as my diet/training has improved. my current personal trainer also pushed uber high volume workouts on me, but i can't really recover with my shitty af test levels.

agreed on your critique of my physical genetics though - i didn't really win the lottery there. imho my iq balances that out nicely

inb4 indians are slaves. (they never were)

thanks other anons tho

>>37788820
No really just think about how ugly short and disgusting indians are. Do you ever imagine a fucking white girl getting thirsty for some filthy indians microdick? Blacks are alpha and so white bitches like them sometimes but indians are just a filthy ass race of pathetic betas who should be put into fucking slavery

>>37788835
>>37788850
see indian guy, if that retard can survive doing the most retarded blast ever with no pct, are steroids really that risky?

yolo, pussy

>>37788835
post current/before body pic? i'm sorry for that loss, but i'm really depressed right now. I'm also pretty certain i'll be able to stop as my future line of work wouldn't really allow me to amass huge gainz (finance/banking)

>>37788868
>my iq balances that out nicely
>i've been decent results

>>37788835
your bloods were shit because you decided blasting for an entire year was a good idea instead of just cruising to get your bloods back to stable levels after a 3 months blast

goddamn

>>37788868
Ok so imagine yourself all shredded or whatever. You are still going to be 5'4 or whatever indians are, still smell like the streets you shit in, and still be a disgusting piece of shit. Your very skin color is fucking filthy, and indian facial features are the worst on the earth.

Not to mention indians are just by far the most beta race in existance by far and fucking disgusting as shit

All these disgudting little monkeys having hopes of "making it" is fucking sad and cringy to watch. I just wonder how they end up after realizing it's pointless. Like do they kill themselves? Go back to india so they can freely shit everywhere, or what?

>>37788881
hahahaha convincing argument anon. i agree, that cycle sounds absurdly risky and dangerous (not judging you anon, but what did you really think was going to happen?!) especially considering your natty test levels i'd be scared of runnning more than 4 weeks without PCT. I'll probably end up running a 4-6 week cycle. any reccomdations?

i was thinking of something like 250mg sutanon E3D + dbol to help add some mass for 4 weeks or so?

>>37788922
oh just fuck off, stop compensating for your small penis

>>37788900
sorry for that typo. i did get a 2400 on my SAT and am at an ivy right now though, if that means anything to you.

>>37788922
you aren't even trying man. i have very high social status in college, and many of my indian friends have banged very hot white/asian/indian/whatever race you consider attrative women.

thanks brahs for the /adv/ice

>>37788952
LOL a fucking indian talking small dicks LMFAO

Hahaha nice projecting holy shit

>>37788965
Im white you cuck, and 6'4, I just dont like reading this low effort crap post

>>37788965
Btw here just dug this up, go see what awaits you

https://www.reddit.com/r/steroids/comments/2jj6d7/6_week_progress/

If you have garbage indian gutter trash shit genes no roids in the world will help you

Google indian bodybuilder, i just did and almost vomitted

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>>37788928
mate you're a fucking retard. Have you even read 15 minutes on this subject? 4-6 week cycle of sustanon?

>>37788965
i think we're all missing what you add to this thread. can you fuck off with your "muh white ppl r superior" neonazi bs to stormfront? also post current pic

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>had a dream about fucking tranny and starting a relationship with her
>wake up next to my gf and realize I'm a huge faggot

i-its the tren right anon?

>>37788983
i thought sustanon was literally just a trade name for 250mg test? sorry if that was a noob mistake - it looks like i'll have to find 250/500mg test e

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>>37789001
Not tren just degeneracy

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>>37789001
Depends on how disappointed you were it was your gf and not the tranny

is it risky selling sterons online

based in the uk

>>37788981
>Sometimes I worry that everyone on here looks like this guy
Kek

>>37789025
aren't steroids basically legal in the uk?

>>37788981
>https://www.reddit.com/r/steroids/comments/2jj6d7/6_week_progress/


that was actually helpful haha. I currently look closer to that guy's after picture, and plan on eating ~4k+cals a day and train uber high volume if i actually start cycling, though that pic obviously warns me against trying to take the "easy way" and not exploring my natty gains first.

>>37789025
Of course it's risky. All you can do, is minimize the risk by not being an idiot and taking precautions.

I'm thinking about taking a bunch of estrogen on my off cycles how bad do you think it'll fuck up my gains?

Will switching from estrogen > var every 6 weeks just be asking for fuckery?

I've read grills do hormonal birth control on/off fine but I'm dabbling a bit stronger than that

>>37788506
It's been 5 minutes

>>37786120
<3

>>37789041
If you look like his after picture, you need to cut before hopping on

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>>37789039
Owning them.

Selling or producing is illegal.

>>37789039
Legal to use, illegal to distribute.

>>37788835
this guy probably destroyed his HPTA. enjoy being on TRT for the rest of your life

>>37789001
A hole's a hole m8. Especially on tren.

>>37789017
kek. I had a lot of murder fuck dreams.
As long as you wake up an think whatever you did in the tren dream was a weird/bad idea you're probably fine.

>>37789059
what bodyfat % should I aim for before i start cycling? also, im just generally curious, why is a low bf % recommended before cycling? is it the water retention?

sorry for the noob questions. thanks anon

>>37789025
use bitcoin
encrypted email services
use PGP keys for communication
pretty low risk when you do that

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>>37789082
I just get sex dreams, if anything.

No trannies. No murder.

You guys just weird.

>>37789083
10% but many start sooner

Higher bf% = higher sides and aromatization

>>37789048
the 1mg estradiol tabs I took didnt fuck up my gains

>>37789001
this sounds completely normal

>>37789094
boring vanilla dreams?
whats wrong with you

>>37789102
are these sides also preventable with a AI such as armidex? ik the AI takes care of the aromatization

>>37789025
when selling browse on tor
use bitcoins only for transaction (use a tumbler etc)
use encrypted email
use PGP keys

not that bad if you do all that

>>37789106
>>37789048
this is new to me. what about the estrogen?

oh wait estp is grill

Am I missing out by never using orals steroids?

>>37789048
Estro is anabolic might not be bad to run bc all the time.

Do you accept iou's?

You got mail btw.

>>37789082
Ofc I'm always getting murdered in my dreams on tren

>>37789094
That too alot of sex dreams

>Tfw tren dream
>humping slut
>having intense hot sweaty dream sex
>hump so hard I wake my self up
>wake up covered in sweat and disappointment

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>>37789082
y-yeah.. I didn't enjoy it at all

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>>37789122
Or a very pretty boy.

We're still on the fence.

>>37789106
:(

>>37789137
>liver damage
>bloat
nah bruh fuck orals I'm on them right now

>>37789106
>jerry
>gains

I'm not surprised they didn't effect nothing

>couldn't resist
>love you jerry

I'll have to just try and find out the old fashion Yolo way I guess

>>37789112
They can help but you generally need to be more precautious and there's never guarantees with how your body specifically will work with em

If you're 15%+ you're better off dnp, eca, clen, alb and then roids

Beyond that you'll notice the results better when you aren't covered in a layer of bloat and fat

>>37789112
You need to do some research. Take an hour of your time and read. We are not here to spoon feed you because you are too lazy to use Google to prevent fucking yourself up using anabolics.

>>37789094
You must get all your kinky hate fucking out of your system in rl. lol

>>37789122
Mtf tranny.

>>37789148
That sounds horrifying. I'd have to sleep alone. I'd be to afraid to wake up and start punching in "self defense"

>>37789150
I mean you find something new out about yourself all the time.
Talk to the gf, maybe she'll be alright with sharing a dick girl.

>>37789185
see don't you hate these curry shitting coolie towel head animals already?

can't wait until he kills himself which should be soon

>>37789199
Ofc you'd need to sleep alone the night sweats are horrible. I have to sleep naked on towels.

>>37789185
fair enough

>>37789183
sounds good. i'm going to go and cut hard for 4 weeks (~1000 kcal deficit), get to (hopefully) 10-12% and see if i still want to cycle.

thanks anons

>>37789210
damn which indian stole your girlfriend/waifu/job

The RC/peptide source I'm sponsored by is having a sale if anyone wants to know

>>37789240
LOL you said you look like that guys "after" pic. you are not going to be anywhere NEAR fucking 10% in 4 weeks at 1k are you fucking brain dead. you would be lucky to be at 20% after that if what you say is true

>>37789250
cringe

>>37789260
with dnp anything is possible

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>>37789230
As long as they don't cuddle up to you I'm fine.

>>37789199
Bled all over a girl once and didn't stop till we finished. She didn't realize till she looked at herself in the mirror and was covered in it.

Looking back at it it's easily one of the weirdest things I did.

>>37789148
>estro is anabolic

I've read hormonal bc + roids lessens the effects but I've done no in depth research and anecdotal reports seem not to notice a huge difference

Still I think bc has a lower hormonal amount than what I'm going to try to push, will see

>iou
If I can add interest ;)

>mail
A real dick pic this time? Coach you spoil me! Kek

>>37789151
>or a very pretty boy
I feel like somehow my life would be easier if this were true

Particularly not having to squat to pee

>>37789199
>mtf tranny

>tfw fraud gives me a complex about not being feminine enough

They do say sociopaths have abnormally higher test levels for whatever reason

Or maybe that was psychopaths, some texts don't make a distinction

Stay jelly of my boyishly beautiful bone structure
>pretends to cry

>>37789240
Good luck breh

>>37789260
im actually a fair bit leaner and measure 18.5% with calipers. the weight looks more on me cos im shorter, but im def a bit leaner than that guy

I was kind of upset about not being able to do squats, but this onahole is giving me sick leg pumps

>>37789122
oh hey you still exist

hows it going

>>37787856
back onto tren boys. Its not been a long enough break but you only yolo once. wish me luck.

>>37789295
this ugly motherfucker went from "where's my hug" to "new phone who dis" in only 4 weeks and so can you!

>>37789230
I didn't get night sweats that bad, I just slept on top of the covers and I was fine. Course it was the middle of winter, and I'm like Scrooge McDuck when it comes to heating bills.
>>37789296
Iktf.
I got a nose bleed while making out a few months back.

They thought it was cute. Like an anime i guess. Lol

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What program should I run to get back into shape? I've been living in SEA for the past 5 months and let myself go a bit.

Running 500mg Test-e/week to lean out alongside whatever program I settle on. Only have 2 months to do it before I'm back on the road again bros. Is it DNP time due to the timeframe?

>>37789374
i dont understand

>>37789316
It's cool bb.
Some guys think the Dr girlfriend thing is hot.

>>37789316
post boipucci

>>37789393
make you own. 2-3x/week frequency with periodization

>>37789400
it was supposed to be an ad for DNP

>>37789296
Ikr fuck man

>>37789316
Playing around with Estro is outside my expertise. I know it's done with tren pellets and all the tren studies show Estro helps.

>If I can add interest ;)
Go on.

>>37789316
>A real dick pic this time? Coach you spoil me! Kek
Huehuehue

>>37789391
I tren it up during the summer I'm pretty much alway sweaty

Just did my first pin on Thursday, here's my cycle:
Test E @ 500mg/Week
Dbol 50mg/day
12.5mg Asin (Pharma) EOD

Please to run DBOL 1-4 and Test E from 1-16.

I have a really strong desire to not PCT and go to cruise dose. If so I want to add Tren. Once I get my estro in check do you guys think I could add Tren A @ 50mg?

>>37789420
It comes from being heavier too.
I never used to sweat when I was a skelly.

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the trensomnias really starting to get to me
Atleast I have lots of time to lay around and wish I was sleeping, once you get busy you cant really do that very often

>>37789259
how much is tb500

>>37789183
damn this bastard is ice cold

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My brother's a cyclist. He takes a shot of test prop after exerting himself on long cycle rides to "aid recovery". I reckon he's probably taking one 100mg ampule per week.

He's an idiot right? he's got no pct, no ai on hand .....nothing as he reckons one shot every so often won't shut him down?

I mean, is there even any advantage?

give me some ammo to aware him that he's being retarded.

>>37789460
>I have a really strong desire to not PCT


tell me you didn't start a cycle without having purchased pct

>>37789460
>I am gonna cycle but I'd rather drop to a cruise dose rather than PCT

IT'S CALLED BLASTING AND CRUISING YOU INBRED

>>37789540
This is Bait based off some retarded shit someone posted earlier

Started my cycle last Sunday. I had some really bad PIP from some Test P I was using (couldn't walk out of bed from first pin) so I ended up pushing back a dosage of Test E to today (was gonna take it yesterday).

If I did 250 mg Test P throughout the week and then Test E on Friday or Saturday would I be good, or would that be too much? I also running Dbol 25mg ED.

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H-help me /fraud/ I have a school girl crush on coach now

Or an infatuation to own him like a prize possession it's probably the same thing

Don't tell him

back pumps on tren kill me now pls

not even training back

>>37789571
I mean if he's running aromasin ED he might be able to continue that into PCT. I do AI only PCTs as well, you don't always need a SERM, especially with aromasin.

>>37789630
I've been wondering if chugging disgusting coconut water might help placate a lot of painful roid cramps/pumps

...... be the test subject, anon

Depends on if it's being caused or exasperated by deficiency and what deficiency it is, but really it can't hurt beyond your taste buds

>>37789590
It really isn't bait.

I don't even understand why this could be interpreted as bait?

I'm asking for the opinion of experienced juicers as to the level of stupidity involved in randomly shooting test in a haphazard fashion....my borther currently won't listen to me trying to warn him. If I could get some legit info then he might listen

what do you expect I'm going to do.... get a reasonable response then start shit-posting "LAWL I TROLL U!!"

jesus, get a grip of yourself.

>>37789353
graduate, job, birthday, narcolepsy, insurance so trt soon, mma. keeping up with NotOp, lmaonogains. You?

>>37789531
top peptides, code is "fourth"

>>37789668
already did that, it does help with every kind of cramp-state or deficiency I could induce. getting the pineapple flavor helps.

>>37789625
pls respond cause I'm about to pin right now fellas

>>37789585
are you retarded lol

he's currently planning for a cycle but thinking of cruising instead of ending it/going on pct

nothing he said is wrong

>>37789676
>legit info
>fraud

Wew lad

Anyway it's not guaranteed to shut him down but it technically could. If he starts feeling randomly moody, lethargic, etc you can smugly grin at him

To be fair though you should probably give less shits about his life choices and let him find out if it's detrimental the hard way

Sounds like he's just being stubborn. If he gave a fuck about the facts he'd have researched them himself

>>37789540
>>37789718
100mg/week is definitely shutting him down

>>37789709
pin bby girl

>>37789718
>To be fair though you should probably give less shits about his life choices and let him find out if it's detrimental the hard way

He's my little bro. I got to look out for him.

Don't really want him to get gyno or something

>>37789709
You'll be fine you'd be fine skipping it too really

>>37789735
No not necessarily if he's doing it infrequently and if he's doing it consistently then it's like hrt

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>>37789485
Is that true though? I don't really sweat much except on tren.

>>37789626
Kek

>>37789668
Coconut water does help. Mango and pineapple coconut water tend to not be scusting.

>>37789709
PIP is always the worst first time. I don't think I ever got any the third, or maybe even the second time I pinned.

>>37789668

I have great success with getting my electrolytes and stopping cramping and painful pumps. It works

>>37789740
Eh since he's not fact checking you could just make up a bunch of fear mongering sides so that he gets scared out of it

Then if he double checks to call you on it, he'll know what you wanted him to know to begin with

You're probably better off just pulling up some medical sites on Google over anonymous anecdotal evidence if you want to rub something in his face. But he'll probably just be in denial about anything by the sounds of it

is it literally impossible to gain fat on tren + extremely clean food only? seems like it to me from what i am seeing

>>37789735
>>37789740
>100mg/week
It's going to be like trt. You'll get shut down for no major gains. Just basically having big swings in test levels for no real benefit.

The dosage isn't really high there shouldn't be gyno/other sides associated with not keeping your estro in check.

I don't think it's particularly dangerous, just dumb.

>>37789805
thats the general consensus of very high carb high protein low fat diets on tren

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>>37789805
I found that as long as you are eating mostly carbs you don't even have to eat very clean on tren to shred fat.

>>37789766
>>37789820
and then if he stops his trt dosage he becomes a 0 test moron, not to mention that it's only 1 pin a week, so if it's a short ester like test c/e then it's definitely fucking with him

or if he skips a week every now and then, that's enough to have a big impact

it's pretty fucking stupid desu

>>37789783
>kek
For fucks sake /fraud/ I said not to tell him

>mango and pineapple
Egh just iv me

>>37789790
I've tried chugging that pedialyte crap when I'm particularly desperate, electrolyte imbalances seem to be the cause of most from what I've noted so it makes sense

>>37789839
I'm not saying it's not stupid I'm just giving an honest answer to the implications of how it could be effecting him presently

You can miss a trt dose without being completely incapacitated it's not the end of the world

>>37789834
>>37789835
I am talking eating like fucking 1500 over maintenance and gaining 0 fat. And yeah I'm on high carbs high protein, and only trace fats from rice, oats, chicken, etc..

I tried eating 500 over maintenance for a while and my skinfolds were actually decreasing EXTREMELY fast, and I was maintaining weight

At +1500 i am not putting on any fat at all, but losing it very slowly compared to +500. Actually gaining weight now though.

>>37789783
Yeah. As you gain weight you have more body mass relative to surface area to dissipate heat.

It's why fatties sweat all the time. I don't know if fat is a better insulator then muscle but I know I sweat a lot more now then I ever did before.

>>37789877
how much you taking?

>>37789878
What's the reason behind fat fucks always being warm all the time then? I am genuinely curious. I live with my obese ass family and they constantly keep the AC on even when it is like 65 degrees in the house, while complaining about how hot it is.

Meanwhile I am 12% bf or so and FREEZING MY DICK OFF, having to walk around wearing a fucking hoodie and sweat pants because I am so cold.

>>37789896
only 250 test and 500 tren. I tried a higher dose of 800 but the sides basically fucked me hard since I am a first timer with tren, but 500 actually feels pretty good.

>>37789737
its inside me ;)

>>37789684
Ive got a job and all that
almost a real human

on a tren blast atm with adrol, ghrp2, and mod grf, I may accidentally make a gain here soon

>>37789928
pics when

>>37789928
A whole gain!
Take a photo and put it on the fridge

>>37789877
its weird some people say v high carbs, but others swear by low carb with tren I dont have a fucking CLUE which way to go

>>37789901
e=mc^2

>>37789102

I was going to do a cycle to recomp because I hate cutting

Shit...

>>37789928
does tren affect you at work?

>>37789928
When you're not using azusa's new plastic cunt do you put panties on it?

I need to know for science

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>>37789975
I've only used tren to recomp, but I've found that high carb > low carb. Both for performance in the gym and fat loss outside it.

>>37789901
Do you know why people insulate houses? Same idea.

>>37789975
Well I have browsed a fuckload of steroid forums researching the optimal macro split for tren, and I pretty much came found that the majority of people say if you use high carbs and EXTREMELY low fats, it will basically be impossible to gain fat if the diet is kept CLEAN.

I didn't believe this at first obviously, sounded like a bunch of broscientists hyping up steroids, but jesus christ it is real. I am never bulking without tren again. It's not just random gym rats saying this either, I saw a lot of people who actually look good and huge and do competitions saying the same thing.

So yeah I didn't believe it at first either, but it is fucking true. 0 fat gain. Although literally all I eat is vegetables, oats, rice, chicken, etc.. no junk. So I can't speak for shitty diets, but for 100% clean diets I can say it's true in my experience

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>>37789949
you can really tell im on tren
notice the delt fullness!!

>>37790015
not really
maybe I look at the phat asses abit more than normal
and I'm sure all the compliment on my physique are from the tren fullness

>>37790019
no I put it in the box
but NOT in the plastic cause plastics shouldnt touch
and cover it with an azusa towel so if anyone comes into my room they wouldnt see a loli sex toy box

>>37790025
how the stretch marks
can you work out again

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>3 hours of sleep
>8 hours of yard work today
>93 degrees out
>drink almost a gallon of gatorade
>tren sweats like a motherfucker
>smell like a jumbo jet full of asses
>got my little baby diddylift calluses all dirty
>sad when I am finally done because no ESTP to give me a back massage with her strong var hands
Welp, time for some Guinness and a bowl and some shitpostan

>>37790025
People insulate houses but when the house is exposed to cold ass air the outside of the house still gets cold and shit.

Like how does their skin not feel fucking freezing?

>>37790012
Eh if you're mindful it probably won't kill you but you're gonna want to lose the fat eventually I'm sure

No time like the present

T3 vitamin c and dnp if you're impatient

>>37789571
I did buy PCT it's Nolva 40/40/20/20. Hair loss scares me I'm thinking if I get sides I might stop immediately. Can I get sides from day 3 or too early I like my hairline is thinning. My dad still has all his hair, so did my grand dad.

>>37789585
Right so I am blasting right now at 500mg/week and would just go to a cruise. I'm not sure how I used the terminology wrong you dumb fuck.

>>37788820
This is 100% true. I have never seen any indian acting like a normal human being in the gym. Even niggers from somalia know better. It's like they turn on their weird vibes as soon as they go out in a public place.

>>37790054
you burn off excess carbs instead of de novo lipogenesis

>>37790065
my dick and balls really hurt

>>37790054
might have to do the same. what bf % you started out at?

>>37790079
Because you said you were gonna cruise after a cycle. But then it's not a cycle, it's a blast.

Also, it's generally tren, nand, and bold, that causes hair loss. Test is less so.

>>37790108
Right sorry. Thanks for the tip. Probably just being paranoid about the hair loss. If I decide to just B&C what do you think about adding Tren at week 8?

>nipples looking puffy but not sensitive
half a cap of aromasin this week or the whole thing?
just running 250 test e senpaitachi

Help me understand

How does one cycle without ruining natural production of hormones? Is it just no big blasts and then PCT?

What is a good place to be before saying "okay, now I will cycle"?

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>>37790062
> stretch marks

Yeah they are still there just faded, decided to take time off around then for a bit. Then one thing led to another and I was able to move to Thailand/Cambodia for almost half a year. So I didn't lift/eat right at all there. I lost 15lbs in Thailand and gained it all back and more thanks to the $0.50 beers in Cambodia.

Back in Canada for a couple months now before I hit up Europe/the Levant for a bit. How is your waifu?

>>37790073
They retain more heat, so their skin isn't as cold as a normies?

> implying I'm an expert on land whale thermodynamics

>>37790062
I think if I had significant concern for peers I'd be concerned for you, Jerry

Not like intervention concerned but that thing where you leave the room and they're like, 'I'm worried about that guy'

Yeah

>>37790065
>strong var hands

My sides

I've actually not really noticed a change in my hands from var

Noticed some grills get like gorilla hands what's up with that

>>37790089
I read about de novo lipogenesis, but I came across info that it is essentially irrelevant in humans. Is this false? Some people here were saying it too, I think either brick or bimbo. But they're not the only ones, I read about it on a few roid forums too

>>37790096
I suck asshole at guessing my own BF, but I posted recent pics in a cbt thread and am currently around 11% apparently. I have skinfold data though

At the start of june, my abdominal skinfold was ~11.5, now it's 7. Thigh was 9, now it's 7. Chest was 4, now it's 3.

It is not just incorrect measurements either, I am very obviously much more lean and vascular in random places. Since I am stuffing my fucking face with so much clean food at +1500 calories, I feel like a fatass, so I keep looking at my progress pics, and I am like what the fuck? How the fuck am I leaner while eating so much?

>>37790126
I'm one for doing a simple blast first, just to gauge how your body reacts, and let you get more experience it dosing ai dependent on the sides of high/low estro.

But many people do use Tren for their first blast, and I'm just overly cautious about it. Same reason I don't use any orals.

>>37790108
but he is cycling. he has the pct ready and everything. it might become a blast, but right now it's a cycle

really weird thing to nitpick about desu

>>37790167
You're supposed to have PCT ready even if you are only blasting and cruising anyway desu.

But it doesn't really matter anyway.

>>37790073
You know how you might cuddle up with a qt to stay warm?

It's the same idea. They basically have the body mass of several people huddled together.

It'd be like a normal person wearing a suit made out of midgets.

Also, it doesn't matter if your skin is cold, your body reacts based on your core temperature where you keep all your important bits.

>>37790179
explaiin

>>37790197
are you fucking retarded?

>>37790108
bold is pretty hair friendly

>>37790138
that sounds pretty cool actually
how good were the trannies

the waifus good
just got an onahole
can finally make sweet love to my gal

>>37790139
im sure all my friends think like that
In fact I know they do based off some recent conversations I've had

its funny one guy who stopped talking to me when I got buck and drank alot started talking to me again once he found out about the dakis
Guess he's not intimidated by how alpha I am anymore lol

>>37790154
yeah I dunno how significant it is in humans, I dont think very
but you do burn off them carbs, thats a FACT
so theres probably more going on, but I'm sure thats a big player along with the nutrient partitioning

>>37790197
he means you're supposed to buy the pct and have it on hand in case something goes wrong and you need to come off

(nobody does)

After quite a bit of research for months and finding a supplier g2g I'm about to start my first cycle of:
Wks01-12 : 500mg Test E
Wks01-06 : Dbol 25mg every day
Wks01-12 : 0.5mg Armidex every other day
Wks13-15 : Nothing
Wks16-21 : 50/50/50/25/25/12.5 Clomid ED

My current stats are:
Height : 5'10
Weight : 190
Bodyfat : ~12%
Estimated 1RMs : 155/255/305/395

Is this cycle fine for my first cycle? I've researched quite a bit on clomid vs nolvadex and there seems to not be a clear cut answer for either except nolvadex is more potent so to match clomid should be taken up to 100mg initially which I may do for the first three days in PCT. Also, I was unable to obtain nolvadex at this time so I opted for an extended taper of clomid.

Also, how long after last injection should I wait to PCT? Most of what I read states a three week gap but some recommend only a two week.

Last question, how much of gains did everyone here retain on their first cycle? I've heard 10-20lbs is best case scenario.

>>37790135
How much is half a cap?

>>37790136
No matter what your cycle you should operate under the assumption you're disrupting natural hormone production. Pct helps quicken the recovery of your natural hormone production. There is the possibility of recovery even after b&c without pct but it'll be much longer/painful if so

>what is a good place to be

A place where you are familiar with your diet/routine, and are ideally not 15% or over bf. And can adequately afford your cycle and pct

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>>37790196
>suit made out of midgets

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>>37790089
>my dick and balls really hurt
I wish mine did.
>>37790139
I just mean your grip strength would be superior. Mostly in the forearms. And my back is killing me. Probably need to jump on the foam roller. Wish I had a hot tub. How would you get gorilla hands, maybe growth but I doubt it?

>>37790203
jerry if i work in a faggoty corporate environ will it be safe if i blast tren?

pls guide me senpai

>>37790203
He probably just wants to steal azusa from you

Don't be fooled

>>37790209
>(nobody does)

>Obligatory once a month /fraud/ post of 'help what do I do negative sides but I didn't order pct how detrimental are lactating chest melons to my aesthetic?'

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>>37790203
Trannies and girls were god tier in Thailand. Much less so in Cambodia.

Finding a " gf " in Cambodia is pretty easy, they expect you to give them a weekly allowance. This came out to about $40/week USD. But they will come to your place every second night and fuck you like a king.

Also the memes are true. White= God to asian women.

>>37790212
> Dbol

Gross, use a dry oral. Run high dose Tbol or low dose Sdrol.


> onahole

I'm glad you two are finally able to get closer.

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>>37790260
Ya it will turn you into a BOSS and you can just come in late and take extra long lunches and if anyone questions you just flex and ask if they are mirin. This is pretty much the fastest way to the top in corporate America.

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I swear I can't stop judging peoples' lift numbers

>>37790154
>>37790203

unless tren somehow acts on the absorption of carbs, literally the only other explanation for observed phenomenon is blunting conversion to fat

>>37790223
12.5 mg

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>>37790274
>White= God to asian women
Asians try so hard to be white it's weird. So many bleaching creams and surgeries to look white.

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>>37790260
probably
just dont get mad
I really dont have any issues at work

Except tren sweats
but I know the ladies love that tren smell

>>37790266
he does want to watch the k-on movie with me...
ILL KILL HIM

>>37790274
wow thats crazy
thats much cheaper than a western gf too

yep I'm living the dream

>>37790297
I think its gotta be a combo of the two

>>37790274
>dry oral
I chose Dbol for the initial strength kickstart. I don't care about looks and I'm about to start a summer bulk. As far as I know wets typically have more of an effect than dry as drys are usually used for cutting. Is this wrong? if so, since this is my first cycle does it really matter? :0

>>37790274
thailand was SO GOOD to me. I was getting laid every single day, for free (and if you do want to pay, they're still ridiculously cheap, like 500-1500 baht). I should have stocked up on cialis and viagra desu, my libido made it so I only had sex once or twice a day tops, I should have spent the entire time just having sex

I'm like a 4/10 in north america and this was pre-roids for me so I was even skinnyfat

goddamn I miss bangkok

>>37790297
>I swear I can't stop judging peoples' lift numbers
I used to be more judgemental when I started lifting.
But there's all sorts of reasons to be lifting with baby weight. Injury is a big one.

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>>37790312
> implying this is a bad thing

>>37790356
> strength kickstart

Use Sdrol for pure strength. It's the best oral for lean mass and strength gains. Managed to go from a 270lb 1RM BP at 190lbs to a 300lb 1RM in 2 weeks on Sdrol.

>>37790420
That's impressive.
Dbol is still my waifu though.

>>37790420
Shit that's bretty good on benching. I'll try hit it up on my next cycle then after researching it more. Thanks man.

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>>37790380
> goddamn I miss bangkok

I wish I could experience Annie's for the first time again. And the Nana side street nightlife as well. The first time a guys in bangkok and realizes that sex is basically on demand here is a beautiful thing.

Couple that with easy to get legal recs as well as steroids and it becomes a steroid Sodom and Gommorah.

>>37790429
>>37790450
To be fair though I was also on Deca. High dose sdrol does tend to make numbers explode, I was on 40mg/day. Stupid high dose, I take much more relaxes blasts now. It's less about numbers now as much as it is about looking aesthetic and being relatively healthy.

>>37790235
Oh I see

>gorilla hands

I have no clue but I see it in pics and irl a lot

Their hands get like ugly veiny in a bad way too

>>37790310
12.5 e3d should be more than plenty at that amount but it sounds like you're particularly sensitive to things so keep an eye on it

>>37790350
Smother him with your jizz towel
It's what azusa would want

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>>37790350

might explain digestive issues some people have with it, possible if tren boosts cortisol through the roof which further prevents glucose from being stored

>>37790403

moreso when they've just been at it for years and don't have something like an injury to explain the lack of progress, shows their lack of dedication to keep improving which drives your interest in improving form/programming/etc

which in turn informs that when they come and start asking about gear, they're probably lazy and are going to get shit results

>>37790420

wtt maybe-epi, maybe-drol, or maybe-var for legit sd

>>37790108
What about dbol, does that cause hair loss?

>>37790545
Generally. But hair loss will happen more to the people who are genetically prone to it. It's why some professional bodybuilders have full heads of hair and some don't.

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>>37790488
Some girls just have old lady hands. All veiny and wrinkled even when they are teenagers. Genetics.
>>37790545
Just take some finasteride. FUCK!

>>37790545
Yes

Any dht derivative or in dbols case anything that causes your body to produce more dht will excellerate hair loss if you're genetically predisposed

There's really no way to know until you try

On the upside you won't wake up bald and can quit and start pct if you start to feel uncomfortable with the amount of shedding you're experiencing

>>37790380
>>37790484
post thailand stories

>>3779060

I would cut my hands off and lift with stubs

>>37790616
Should be
>>37790600

>>37790506
There's a couple older guys like that at my gym. They've been going for years and I've never seen them up the weight.

One of them comes in with a friend who pushes himself and is jacked as fuck. He looks better at fifty then I do at 27. I don't know how he hasn't rubbed off at least a little on his buddy.

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>>37788803
>prosthetic enlargement
>prosthetic

>>37790629
post hands and feet from multiple angles and i will judge

is 50mg of anavar too low of a dose?

ive read online of people recommending 100mg but then again their anavar is probably shit

>>37790721
Nah its perfect Alb and I ran 20-40mg on our cuts

>>37790629
MAIL

>>37790720
Y-you won't use them for l-lewd t-things will you, senpai?

>>37790759
Kek you've got my full interest tiger I won't be slow to respond

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>>37790629
>year 2050
>fraud has devolved into a genetics modifying board
>notbf Trudeau finally leaves cyborg arm ESTP
>goes on a mad rampage over her broken heart
>this is the beginning of ww4 the cyborgs vs the genetically modified chads
>much pizza is spilled on both sides

>>37790721
T O R O N T O?

>>37790801
This should be one of those half star movies on Netflix like evil bong or sharknado

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>>37790704

... are we not doing phrasing anymore?

>>37790759
>>37790797

I demand tribute under the aegis of prima nocta

if I don't see tits in my inbox I'm going to start sending coach pics of the anteater soup can

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>>37790825
>evil bong
Is this about as stupid as I am imagining?
>>37790851
>implying she will ever deliver

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>>37790869

>implying it's not a thinly veiled excuse to send people pics of the cinderblock

>>37790851
>anteater soup can

Wot

>>37790869
>is this as stupid as I'm imaging?

Worse

I even watched it stoned to shit and it did not improve

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>>37790900
Lol you post the best gifs.

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>>37790920
>Evil Bong is a horror comedy film directed by Charles Band. The plot about a group of college stoners who smoke from a sentient, malevolent bong unaware that it traps the toker in a surreal strip-club with killer strippers.
Who fucking funds these movies? I could eat 4 cans of Pinto beans and shit out a better movie idea than this.

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>>37790797
Lol thanks bae

>>37790851
I sent you my tits you fuck

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>>37790920

you've never heard someone call an uncut dick an anteater?

oh my sweet summer child

>>37790967
It even sounds better than it is

>>37790978
Well now that you've made the comparison I can understand the reference lel

How soon is too soon for an adult male to start cycling? 21?

>>37791050
after you stop growing

cant stop eating...getting fat..cant stop farting

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>>37790997
>It even sounds better than it is
Just like that time when the scout leader promised me candy and all I got was cock?

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>>37791100

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>>37790851
>anteater soup can
tfw you will never be anteater dicked because you mom fell for the evil juden.

Fuck it. I'm 18. I can run an 8 week test e cycle with clomid for PCT for $150, maybe $175 after I get needles and shit, pay for shipping.

What's the reason not to? 25 lbs muscle in 8 weeks? 15 I'll be able to keep?

My natural test levels are ridiculously low, in the bottom fifth for my age. I can't make any fucking gains I just get chubby.

I can't see many negatives. I'm 6' and 155 lbs.

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>>37791061
>supposed to grow to 6'0
>19 and been 5'6 for 2 years
s-still waiting for that late growth spurt haha

>>37789039

Personal use is. Selling is not.

G-guys coach is being m-mean

I'm gonna get my dad to fight his dad

>>37791100
Shh baby

Fraud is a safe place

You can admit to liking that more than you should have here

Kekd

I wonder how many bodybuilders dysphoria is rooted in being kiddie diddled

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>>37791147
Ya it was pretty much exactly like this. Except I got a merit badge at the end...

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>>37791228
>I wonder how many bodybuilders dysphoria is rooted in being kiddie diddled
I don't think kiddie diddling turns people into body builders lmao. Just homos and trannies.
>5th pint of Guinness
>half way through this bowl
>why is no one else on my level

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>>37791193

figure out why I'm going to say 8 weeks is fucking retarded

Is 30mg caps of mk677 too much? Its the only dosage I can get. I can get liquid but I find caps easier. Would doing 30mg straight be a bad idea? Im going to keep my sodium as low as i can and potassium high

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>>37791295
Studies have had people (dogs) on 1mg/kg of bodyweight. This would be 75-100mg a day for most people.

>>37791284
Trannies is pretty much along the same vein though

Makes sense to me the body dysphoria could go towards either extreme

When I become a celebrity psych I'll let you know

>>37787856
sources?

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>>37791287
I love how you rip everyone a new asshole.
>>37791317
>psych
Are you one of those girls that wants to study psychology so she can figure out her own problems?
>>37791318
Big Tex at the power gym. Guy has the best stuff.

>>37791351
I want to study psychology so I can take advantage of vulnerable people to further my curiosity of the human mind which in turn will help me with every day manipulations of people

I'm pretty well acquainted with my own issues I see them as strengths

For example, objectively my giant ego could be considered an issue

But it doesn't bother me

>>37791313
Damn alright. Does age mess with anything? As it doesnt mess with hormones. I am 20

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>>37791287
Did you cash in on that sweet sleep apnea disability before you retired?

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>>37791393
>take advantage of vulnerable people
My sister is manipulative as fuck and it's almost scary. I have suggested she go into lobbying, maybe you should do the same.

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>>37791393
Are you a mean manipulator?
This really depends on your end goal in my opinion. People who are not proud of themselves tend to use a lot of manipulation in a way that hurts others. People who are proud tend to manipulate others and present themselves in a more positive way.

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>>37791396
It will be stronger the younger you are.

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>>37791400
>retired

ew

(still) waiting for the ruling on mine, didn't end up submitting it until like 3 months ago but that'd put me north of 50% easy and get me some sweet voc rehab money

if that happens I'm less worried about bachelors vs masters pa programs since if you can show direct need they can extend your benefits

but between intermittent bouts of snoring, lethargy, splitting headaches, having a 19" neck, and the family history of it I should be a lock

>>37791228
Back

>>37791393

psychology won't help you do that and you'll be rightly reported and de-licensed sooner than you can blink

also
>adult mental issues stemming from getting abused early in life

i want the freudians to leave

No more "/fraud/"

just call it what it is

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>>37791543

>>37791421
Never thought about it

>>37791480
I don't think I'm intentionally sadistic but imho the end justifies the means and I'm fond of the path of least resistance

>>37791543
Are you saying that nurture as a child can't effect adult behavioral issues?

I'd ask if you were retarded but you'd probably tell me you're a flat earther kek

>>37791542
Strange... you mention you're back but i don't see any pictures in my inbox

Can anyone recommend stacking test with stanozolol? I'm going on about a 10 week cycle of test, wondering if I should add the winstrol to the last 8 weeks of the cycle.

On the subject of therapists, what's a good way to find one that would be roid friendly?

>>37791723
Ya idk I don't have anything either.

>>37791731
find one who has poppin delts and traps

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>>37791755

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>>37791780

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>>37791780
Deliver wench!

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>>37791725

no

winny is godawful shit that people should feel ashamed to stock

>>37788653

>5'5
>130 lbs
>19% bf
>bang sluts

gr8 b8 m8

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>>37791806

>what I imagine Jerry is like.

>>37791543

That's most definitely a thing though.

>>37791480

As far as I can tell she's not sadistic. If screwing someone over is the easiest way that's what she'll do. Unless screwing someone over has a fair chance of backfiring.

It's generally a bad idea to screw with someone who has a lot of influence over others in your life. Unless you're a master manipulator it will hurt you.

If you are however... Just manipulate others so they will trust you/will side with you (always a good thing to do) and then you've got a free pass.

But at that point it's likely easier to go about it another way.

Anyway, it's quite different from a minor acquaintance you can simply forget about.

A-anyone here want a dyel bf?

Thats a really nice picture.. Is that a miniature? Mirin.

>>37791895
You know me so well bb

>>37791928
Someone get masT

>>37791843
No I'm like this

>>37791928
How feminine is your penis
No homo

>>37792039
>How feminine is your penis
Very feminine. Have been considering making my body follow suit but not yet

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>>37791393

Huh. You? A giant ego?

>>37792039

Like this?

whatchall do to deal with acne?

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>>37792075

Dnp here I come, 2-3 weeks of 600mg. Fuckyes.

>>37791895
I'll take your word for it

>>37792085
Accutane.

>>37792085

Pin regularly, switch compounds, sleep on a towel and towel around my pillow.

A regular pillow, not the Jerry kind.

Pretty sure female lurkers would like a Jerry boyfriendpillow though. And a few nohomos as well.

Jerr, do it.

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>>37792092

>accutane

1/4 dose I shit blood.

>>37792116
take fish oil...

>>37792161

I always take fish oil, and a lot of other stuff. It starts within 24h of taking accutane.

Im good with stable blood levels tbqh.

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>>37792075
whopps I forgot my picture

>>37792071
you should do that
women lead very comfortable lives with very little effort

>>37792098
it is flattering to think that someone would like to hold me at night
but lettuce be real

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>>37792424

.....Jerry you know you'll never go out in the sun. So post midnightform pls.

Pic of late doggo. She was bulking.

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>>37792116
I pissed blood on Accutane once no joke I could believe it.

>>37792474
Nice pup

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>>37792500

Mirin #.

>>37792500
What a qt kiwi

anybody knows if armed sports LGD is good enough?

>>37792424
>you should do that
>women lead very comfortable lives with very little effort
Women can't do roids for 10/10 bodies though