/roids/

Daily reminder that JM did gay4pay.

Someone pls email me the same of the eu dnp source
Or international idgaf you lnow what i mean

Thank you star children

>currently 12% bf
>only 6 250mg caps of dnp left
>frontload 1g and start psmf today

You think it's realistic to drop from 12% to 8% in 3 weeks of tren + psmf with 6 caps of dnp at the start (leftover from a while ago)?

Also is lifting only 3x a week enough to stave off muscle loss what with the tren?

>>37737503
Fuck you Cunt you fat fuck you.
Fucker.

Circle wants my SSN and birthdate to increase my account limit. Do I do it?

>>37737550
Sure, no harm in it.

>>37737507
>frontload 1g of DNP
holy kek

>>37737507
Pls don't die

>>37737557
I frontloaded 900mg split at breakfast, lunch and dinner, no probs

>>37737491
Half the trips have done g4p or are considering it. Lol

>>37737585
JM never did g4p. Just took a bunch of homo af pictures for himself.

>>37737523
Hi lee

>>37737557
>>37737567
Retards i have frontloaded up to 1.5g at once before, if you understand the half life and blood concentrations over time of the drug you would know why this is safe

>>37737606
Hey Matt

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guys, you havent experienced a real pump until you do 40/60 of dbol and drol preworkout

hoooo-lee shit.

>>37737659
>dbol
>2016

>>37737715
this tbqh

>>37737593
thats why its gay4porn for him, spread assholes should have been a goldmine yet he did it only for his faggotry. Sad.

>>37737593
I could see naked pics. But why take a pic of your own butthole?

And if they were for him, why put them on the internet?

>>37737761
Bruuuh harddrives crash all the time! Gotta keep them safe.

Also kinda hot knowing someone might see ;)

Planning to do the following blast this fall/winter, given that my bloods are alright.

>Weeks 1-24 700mg sustanon
>1-24 900mg EQ
>1-17 800mg deca
>18-24 700mg tren a
>1-6 60mg dbol daily
>7-10 20-30mg sdrol daily

AI used accordingly through whole blast, and caber when tren is introduced. Donate blood around the 12th week.

So tell me, what do you think?

>>37737715
>>37737719
>not enjoying the mental well-being of dianabol

>>37737816
looks good
dont like sustanon but i assume you have your reasons for using it
>>37737819
the gyno kind of ruins it for me

>>37737832
I have it stacked, plus I get it for a very good price.

>>37737715
>>37737719
Dbol is my waifu.
Fight me in rl.
>>37737789
Lol

>>37737832
learn to AI

>>37737936
too difficult with dbol for it to be worth it for me
like 0.5 mg adex ed is too much, 0.25 mg ed is too little, 0.5 mg eod 0.25 mg eod is too low one day too high the other etc. etc.
margins are too small

>>37737819
Yeah nothing brings on the wellbeing like 17-methylestradiol

>>37737993
Is that true? I've heard a lot of people claiming they feel nice when on dbol, but I wouldn't say I saw any difference when I was using it.

>estp quit posting
Maybe catpiss did kill her

>>37738023
I personally hate the shit. It's true that it makes you feel euphoric but i have only experienced that at doses of at least 50mg taken at once.

However it increases your fucking estro so much that it is really shitty unless you take a FUCKLOAD of AI. It also makes you a human water buffalo which i fucking hate.

My personal favorite stack by far is just 250 test and a fuckload of tren, both appearance and mental wise.

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How long does it take for estro to clear your body, what's the half life on it? Im trying to time my AI properly

>>37737629
Frontloading doesn't work with substances that have a small therapeutic window. But what do I know, just go ahead and keep frontloading your dnp, maybe go for 2g next time.

>>37738160
The fucking half life is 36 hours retard

>>37738203
>Implying the half life has anything to do with the Tmax

Are you sure you've studied enough to be playing with potentially deadly supplements ?

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>>37738160
If you do 500mg a day the accumulated dosage is at 1g after about 4days.
Front loading 1g doesn't seem too far off
Wouldn't recommend it for a first timer , or 500 in general but hey whatever floats your boat

>>37738127
nonroider passing by out of curiosity:
I've heard of same bodybuilding freaks taking contraceptives a long time ago.. exactly when does it make sense to utilize estrogen in this mutant lab context?

>>37738247
Yeah 1g is probably fine But go up to 1.5g and 2g and you're just playing with fire

>>37738224
Who gives a shit about that nerd garbage if it works? It works that's all i care about, knowing nerd ass shit that's not practical doesnt help anything

>>37738253
Tanking ones estrogen isn't fun at all

>>37738274
Lol okay, call me a retard first and then nerd. Sure made your point dummy.

>>37738253
It makes sense when you shut down your natural estrogen production nearly completely by taking letrozole for example. You can than take estrogen in pillform (in normal amounts it helps with muscle building) and know exactly how much you're taking. This way you don't have to tweak anti estrogens but can just blast shit.

>>37738278
isn't this some trap shit to do? that's why I'm asking, it sounds pretty counter intuitive to raise one's estro

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>>37738322
thanks for the info

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>>37737629
>>37738160
>>37738203
>>37738224

wat

>>37738247

It's 1.22 g after 4 days. m8.

I just take the dose over the half life and double it to get the maximum. 750 mg *2 = 1.5 g. Not precise but good enough for estimating if it's lethal. But, yeah, you can front-load 1.5 g DNP if you're doing 500 mg ED.

I need to go abroad for about 3 weeks and I'm sure as hell not taking gear with me. Currently just cruising on 300mg test per week.

I don't think I'll be able to get some decent test U in time, but I know that'd be the best option.

What other ways are there to survive 3 weeks without test?

Good source(s) for learning how to cycle properly? I don't mind reading a lot, just don't want to get misled.

>>37738354
I think your 2X 750mg is very reasonable. I know 1.5g itself is not lethal. The point is I don't see why you'd risk taking a near lethal amount in 1 dose ie 1.5g. What if you mess up on the dosage somehow. You won't see the diff between 1500mg and 2g by eye, but you will see the difference between 500mg and 2g very clearly.
Just take 2x750 and you're g2g in 2 days, taking more risk is just stupid.

>>37738420
/r/steroids/wiki

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>>37738470

thx bruh

>>37738508
don't ever respond to me or my wife's son with these meme pictures again

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>at the office today at my desk
>hear some rumors that some guy went crazy against the big boss
>big boss enters my office and speaks about this with a colleague of my
>boss tells my colleague that he want so get rid of him, because of his attitude etc.
>Boss tells my colleague that they gonna think of some plan to trap him.
>they wanna give him some task they know he can't handle, so they can prove on paper he sucks
>Boss asks the colleague of he wanna participate in this plan to trap him, so he can prove on paper he isn't capable of doing the job right

>in the lunchbreak other colleagues are backstabbing and telling how other ppl's jobs are literallyuseless
>only backstabbing and snitching

What kind of world is THIS

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Got my PCT and next cycle.
I'm thinking about cutting this current cycle short once my current test E 400 runs out. Alternatively I also finish off the Test P 100 and then do my pct.
Opinion?

>>37738624
want

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How's my meat shield doing fraud bros?

>>37738623
Capitalism, welcome in the real world. The sooner you keep your live and let live attitude hidden and follow the kill or be killed attitude the better.

It's fucking sad but it's sadly reality

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>>37738747
mirin lower back thickness, good job.

>>37738760
Fuck man, i think it's survival of the fittest

no mercy. natural selection

>>37738623
>What kind of world is THIS
The real world MasT, the real world.

Dont join in the bitching just listen

>>37738790
>>37738760
it's a doggy dog world out

>>37738747
Juicy af

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>>37738798
Just listening and observe. Doing my job.

but damn, it's a cold world. The NEET life was so warm and comfy.

I miss

kng
lank
Batlord
fatlifts
uw0t
dumbqt
jano

bring back 2012-2013 /fraud/

who else am I missing?

>>37738747
I'm sure Lois Lane will love it mate.

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>>37738623
I warned you man. Nothing but backstabbing brown nose pieces of shit in corporate jobs.

>>37738790
>>37738820
>>37738868
Thanks bros. Hope your gear is treating you guys good

Is r/sst a okay place to go? Or should I keep digging further

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>>37738862
JM

those other are faggots, JM WAS THE KING

i wanna smash a fucking dent into that g4p leaker's head. fucking ratta''

>>37738886
gotta up the dose

>>37738912
To buy some? Yes.

>>37738912
It's where I got my shit.
Just make sure they have decent reviews

>>37738933
Okay, thanks

>>37738799
>doggy dog world
Lol
>>37738886
Makes me glad I've got a cushy government job.

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>>37738687
use test p as kickstart and the weeks between last shot and pct. Add masteron if you're at lower bf, fuck that shit is magic

they're right, roids are magic, but only works on ppl that are gifted like me

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>>37738799
Sure is.

>>37738590
I'm sorry, if you supply your home address I'll gladly write a letter of apology

>What's that you're having for post work out?

207g New Jersey Potatoes, nigga

>>37738968
I'm doomed to have high-ish BF% even though I struggle to eat above surplus.

I'll be content to get huge at 18-20% BF.

>>37738913
>gotta up the dose
This is pretty much the answer to all of life's problems.
>>37738953
Federal or local?

>>37738862
Stoya
Kardus
Galenika
Me

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>>37739047
Makes no sense, everyone can lose weight. Yeah you got thyroid problems, but do you have any of those?

You shouldn't even roid at higher bf, or just low test to keep LBM and lose weight with proper exercise and lifting.

18-20% bf is way too high.

>>37739101
Those bosses are alpha af without tren

mirin hard

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>>37738433

Just drew this in paint in case anyone doesn't understand why I double it.

I'd say a 'responsible person' could take up to 15 mg/day/kg body mass. That would be a concentration of 4-4.5 g for a 100 kg roider. But, yeah, front-loading is dangerous, etc.

>>37738623

You drive and you haven't noticed what scum normies are?

>>37739143
I exaggerate, im not fatass-fatass but i flex my abs and i grab a handfull of gut fat.
its gone down a bit since i started my cycle, but diet has always been the weakest part of my regiment.

my lifts have gone up a good bit though

Is 1g/lb of lbm enough protein to not lose muscle on tren and psmf assuming i lift 3x a week?

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What's everyone's opinion on taking tren and deca at the same time.
I have an absolute shitload on deca on hand bu I'm already taking 75mg tren a day.
Would I be wasting my time by adding deca?

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>>37739186
>but diet has always been the weakest part of my regiment.
>I'm doomed to have high-ish BF%
>diet has always been the weakest part of my regiment.

You shouldn't even think about roids, without even having a good diet. If you're not big ramy gifter, you just have to eat crap food in other to look big and shredded.

Thiis is no rocket science. Just put the right food in your mouth, get some dicipline.

Roids do literally shit without proper food. Learn the basics first before you think about roiding.

>>37739227
>lose muscle on roids

>>37739047
>high-ish BF% even though I struggle to eat above surplus.
wat?
>>37739101
Local.

>>37739241
Wasting your time with deca.
Period.

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>>37739165
what do you do for a living? I only see you spouting science and theories over here.

are you a scientist? are you a wizard?

what are you?

>>37739255
well, yeah. my shit is not optimal.
but that isnt saying i have made no progress.
iv gained 13 pounds and assuming 6 pounds are water weight, thats like 7 pounds of muscle which isnt too bad.

187 lbs at 5'9''

>>37739315
Either you're fat as fuck or a bigboi.
So which is it fuckboi cuz only one of those should be blasting.

>>37739275
But. . . . My joints

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>starting first ever cycle
>250mg test cyp every 4 days
>day after first pin my ass swells up and aches when I move
>call dealer, he says it's normal for first time, suggests smaller needle
>go to doctor to confirm it's not infected or anything
>doctor tells me I probably pinned in the wrong place, shows me correct place to pin
>pain and swelling fade after 4 days
>second injection yesterday
>can feel ass starting to swell and ache
fuck me

can anyone tell me what's going on? It's definitely not infected.

used 1" 25g needle
6'4" 200lbs if that matters

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>>37739315
You're a pathological liar

DIET is giving you results. Stop all the roids and get your fucking shit together asap

Why do you people still roid without a diet. I don;t understand this logic.

Is it laziness? lack of dicipline? delusional?

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>>37739397
>>37739330
Idk I just lift

>>37739412
do you?
what are your lifts?

>>37739241
>>37739275
>>37739348
Tren with low dose deca is my favorite blast. Specifically for recovery and joints. I haven't noticed a huge difference between 150 deca and 300 deca.

>>37739432
just under 1/2/3/4 as max reps

>>37739255
Well if you don't eat protein why would you not lose muscle even on a fuckload of gear? Do you spew bullshit on purpose?

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>>37739412
mirin.

routine?

>>37739445
I'am just saying that you wouldn't lose muscle if you're on gear. Regardless of what your protein intake is

Wasn't there a study about this

ARE YOU DOUBTING MY KNOWLEGDE faggot. I'am suprior to you

>>37739387
You massage your muscle after? Sometimes you need to spread it out a bit. Put pressure and make sure nothing comes out for a min or so.

Could also be that your shit is shit.

>>37739513
Ok so theoretically if i starved myself to death on gear do you think by the time i die i am gonna lose 0 lbm? I'm just gonna die at 0% bf with all of my muscles?

Do you not see how that is retarded

>>37739513
20mins cardio (elliptical machine or Running)
35 mins Body-weight for core
2x20 deadbugs
2x20 bicycle kicks
2x20 bird dogs
2x 1 minute elevated Planks
2x10-12 ab roller wheels
woodchops or whatever they are 2x15

Every day

strength day 1
Bench press 5x5
tricep pull downs to burnout
21s, 2 sets
zottman curls 15x2
Deadlifts 3x5 working up to my working weight.

Strength day 2
Dumbbell OHP 2x12 @ 110 lbs :)
lateral raises 2x15
Arnold press 1x12
kelso shrugs 2x20
rows at different angles 6x20
pulldowns/chinups 2x12

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>>37739577
Let say you are on 500mg test-e and you eat below maintenance, you won't lose lbm and lose fat at the same time, regardless of what your proteine intake is.

You see how easy that sound

fcukign retard

>>37739616
So do you also do crossfit? I heard that was pretty good regarding to building muscle

>>37739412
>>37739616

Is this a fucking joke...

It cannot actually be possible to be this much of a braindead fatass piece of shit can it?

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>>37739680
>crossfit
no, and i intend to switch up my routine by the end of the month

>>37739683
what are you talking about, i learned from the best at being retarded.

>>37739683
Reminds me of this

https://www.reddit.com/r/steroids/comments/2r80lh/cycle_report_first_cycle_results_dboltest_a_bit/

Fuck sakes I hope boner is trolling, because if this is the point where people start cycling idk why Im waiting until I'm 24

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>>37739745
i have never seen somthing more batshit insane then that post.

>>37739772
nah, that IS my shit physique.

>>37739412
Woo! No longer the most dyel trip. Lol
>>37739772
Why are you waiting til 24?
It's a bit late to be holding it for a late growth spurt.

>>37739791
>i have never seen somthing more batshit insane then that post.
>nah, that IS my shit physique
Lmao

is chest/heart pain normal

my first cycle, my chest feels uncomfortable when i breathe in

>>37739772
im 24. age is just a number.

>>37739825
That doesn't sound normal. You should get that checked out.
You still doing you cardio?

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>>37739772
how new are you to /fraud/ again?

>>37739435
I prob should have mentioned
I'm on 250teste, 500mast, 525tren.
Now I look at it, deca is prob too much to add to that

>>37739772
lol

I started lifting for 4 months, stopped for 6, lifted for 4 more, stopped for 6, lifted for 4 more then started roiding my ass off (and kept lifting after that, now on my 2nd year)

I was a skinnyfat 11inches arm mess

waiting is a meme

>>37739387
Your made up height and weight does not matter.
Also, you could have googled it and gotten the answer in 5min.
Literally.
How do I know? Because I did the first time I pinned and it got swollen.
Google is always your friend, way before fraud is. No matter how much you want to jerk in your made up stats, height and weight.

Fucco

>>37739870
I have chest pain too but it is the muscles on the outside of my ribcage, slightly below my chest. It feels like they are constantly sprained and it is fucking annoying. I know its not my heart cuz its on both sides and i can feel the fucked up muscle with my fingers.

Any advice on how to get it to stop, its worse on my right than my left and it's been hurting for around a month. OHP really sets it off for some reason but deadlifts and squats don't, no idea why.

>>37739984
Actuslly i guess it could be the ribs themselves too?

>>37737647
>hauntingdisgustingbeetle
are you the /gif/ poster?

>>37739973
Why is 6'4 200lbs not believable, cant that be skinnyfat for lanklets?

>>37740006
it's a gfycat filename

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>>37739876
As long as you feel comfortable with the sides from your existing compounds I don't see why you shouldn't add in deca especially since you already have some on hand.

>>37739745
bunch of memers in that thread desu, as expected of reddit

I can't see the pics sadly as he removed them, but there's nothing wrong with his cycle or his logic. he knew what he was doing roids wise (though maybe not nutrition wise that much). he still got his gains, much more than he would have gotten naturally, so it's fine.

if one more fuccboi says "reach your natty limit first" one more time...

>>37740044
Lmfao going from "barely benching 1 plate" to "benching 1 plate for volume" in an entire cycle, 2 plate 1rm squat, 185lb deadlift...

AFTER A CYCLE

How the fuck could you consider that good, you can literally gain more strength faster as a natty on fucking starting strength

>>37739984
If I had to guess it sounds like you strained/sprained something. Avoid anything that sends to make it worse for a while. If it persists see a doctor.

>>37739810
>>37739830
>>37739873
>>37739910
Mostly I'm waiting for summer to be over so the gains won'tbe as noticeable to my normie friends who are dead set rons with fuck my shit up

also I'm 5'6, I've been this tall since like 15 so I know there is no growth spurt coming lmao, currently a lean(ish) 160 and only 22, 23 in Nov

I know plenty of people who hopped on at a young age, I've been on fit since like, 2010 maybe but stopped coming to this place up until a few months ago so no I'm not new friend, also just because alot of people on fraud jumped on early without a second thought, I don't know if the people on this board are the best stock of people to imitate

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>>37740094
>I don't know if the people on this board are the best stock of people to imitate
Are you saying we shouldn't all do heroin and g4p?

>>37738623
fucking kek i know this feel.

you are at your new job, thinks everything is fine and you feel good, and they you realize that everyone is a vain cunt and trys to fuck up everyone else.

feelsgood to be a shredded wolf with silent dignity, in a world sorrounded by cunts

>>37740044
actually, I see a lot of the comments are "I don't even roid and I lift more than you," so sour grapes basically. bitch boys scared of pinning.

if you know what you're doing with steroids and aren't risking anything and can afford it, just hop on. if I had my current knowledge and could go back in time, I'd start pinning on my first day of going to the gym

>>37740069
he was on a brosplit, not a strength routine. he would have increased those lifts by like 10 pounds in those 10 weeks natty. did the cycle work? yes, it did. it wasn't even a particularly good cycle considering it was only 10 weeks.

it really doesn't matter how much he lifts anyway, he's obviously not lifting for strength. he gained his 20 pounds and most likely looks better than he would in a year of natty lifting.

>>37740137
Nah I'm saying some people here like gay butt secks, don't want the juice tI make me gehy or get addicted to creatine

>>37740137
>heroin
reminder that ESTP ran the fuck away because she couldn't take simple pictures

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>>37740167
I'm sure she just relapsed. Heroin is no joke. Opiates in general are no joke. I never touch them. Too addictive.

>>37740217
Do you have more mk677 for sale? Im gaining weight easier than ever. Want to stock up on this stuff..

Read in a study hgh & igf1 levels dont plateau until about 100mg but I wanna have more on hand before I dose like that.

>>37740259
100mg? damn

Damn you anons get weird as fuck about who gets paid what for dicking who and how.

I've got major pip in my VG and this always happens like every 5th pin. Can I just massage oil out from between scar tissue?

>>37738026
Hopefully

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>>37740259
I started getting nose bleeds at 75mg but this was in the winter and my sinuses were dry as shit so I don't know if it was the mk or that. I may go back to 75 here soon just to see.
But ya I have some, just waiting on the lab results before it's for sale.
>>37740337
I don't understand why people pin vg instead of glutes. Especially since most of us probably have massive glutes compared to the vg.

>>37740337
Stop pinning VG
Just pin glute brah
Always pinning left glute crew. Fuck scar tissues, just push harder.

>>37740094
>Mostly I'm waiting for summer to be over so the gains won'tbe as noticeable to my normie friends

Summer's probably the best time to roid then. If they see gradual gains you can just tell them you changed to your routine. If you start in the winter they won't see all those gains till the next time you're shirtless in summer .

>>37740363
My VG are huge just covered in scar tissue

>>37739810
post body, although you're probably right

>>37740376
Wat?
So either they see massive gains in a few weeks or they notice them after months and months...

Which one will get people to think roids?

Did you get hit on the head a lot as a kid?

>>37740042
>some on hand
Over a 100ml.
Also all your pics make me slowly more disgusted with my gf, she just so average

>>37740363
highly doubt that hgh would cause nosebleed

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>>37740259
Also as far as that dosage the most I have ever heard of was 1mg/kg of body weight given to beagles. They averaged a 126% increase in igf1.
This would equate to around 100mg/day for most people.
What study were you talking about? >>37740398
>Also all your pics make me slowly more disgusted with my gf, she just so average
Looks aren't everything man. I'm sure she has lots of other amazing qualities.

>>37740384
1" needle or 1.5? I have never shot vg honestly.
>>37740433
Ya me too but it stopped when I dropped the dose.

>>37740439
>women
>qualities

>>37740544
1" more than enough. Not much fat on my VG.

>>37740394
Naw. Nobody notices gradual changes.
>Did you get hit on the head a lot as a kid?
I plead the 5th.

>>37740388
Maybe inna bit.

>>37740342
I only regret not choking her to death on my cock myself

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Anyone

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>>37740572
So what's going on with these shoots? Has anything actually been released? I don't really have any interest in the gay shit but I would probably jerk it to the ex even though I'm not really into Asian women.

>>37740686
Not that I'm aware of. Next shoot is next month. may or may not link shoot with the girlie. I get off to the idea of people seeing me take her but it's /fraud/.

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>>37737480
>>37737480
So I just started another blast two weeks ago. Frontloaded 600mg of EQ, taking 300mg E3D. Went up from my cruise dose of 75mg E3D of Test-C/E to 90mg E3D. Started Tren Ace at 70mg ED and Winny at 50mg ED.
Anyway, I'm on this cycle for a week, and no night sweats. My aggression is way up, I'm horny af, strength is up, and I'm looking juicy as hell. I'm not really gaining weight since I've been cutting all month, since before this blast, but I'm somehow looking bigger and definitely more lean. I've noticed slight difficulty breathing, but nowhere near what I'm used to. I definitely sweat a whole lot more in the gym, but not in bed or elsewhere. Fearing underdosed gear, I upped to 100mg ED five days ago. So far, no perceptible difference.

For reference, last time I took Tren-A, it was only 30mg ED stacked with 30mg ED of Mast P and 40mg ED of Test P, and only for three weeks while I waited for Tren-E and Mast-E to kick in. I had crazy night sweats that whole time, almost DNP-tier shit. I would also wake up almost every morning around 2:30-3:00 (regardless of what time I fell asleep) and would have trouble falling back asleep for a couple of hours.

I didn't want to take 700mg Tren EW, but with this gear it looks like I have to. Thinking about getting bloods to check estradiol. Does this sound like bunk tren?

>>37740729
sounds gtg to me

How much volume should I be doing on a blast?

For example, on a pull day I'm currently doing
1x5 Deadlift
3x5 Barbell Row
3x6 Weighted Pull Ups
3x10 Seated Rows
3x15 Face Pulls
3x8 Preacher Curls w/ EZ bar

Is this enough? I'm only using 250mg Test E e3d, as it's my first time.

>>37740765
lol

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>>37740722
Well I don't blame you for not sharing. Don't tell anyone if it goes down. One of these weirdos will find it lol.
>>37740729
Sounds like your test was a lot higher last time hence more sides from tren.

>>37740773
gr8 bants bruv

>>37740765
How much time do you have? Do you have time to do more? Do you feel like you can do more? If you answered yes to the last two, then do more.

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>>37740777
That's a very good guess, and you're exactly right. I wasn't aware of the correlation between test dose and tren sides, but it certainly explains my situation and eases my mind. Still getting bloods done, but def feeling much better, thanks!

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Honest question here to experienced users: When you got jacked out of your minds, how did that affect your interaction with women? Is the notion that most chicks find large amounts of muscle mass disgusting just a bullshit lie women tell to not come off as shallow? Did you notice an increase in female attention or decrease, etc...

Honestly curious because I get so many mixed opinions on the subject due to women not knowing what the fuck they want that it's starting to piss me off.

>>37740439
>the GH response in healthy males does not plateau until 100 mg MK-677 is given (mean peak = 71.2 μg/L) (M. G. Murphy, Merck). This suggests that use of a higher dose of MK-677 in this study might have resulted in a greater increase in GH and possibly a greater change in nitrogen balace
http://press.endocrine.org/doi/full/10.1210/jcem.83.2.4551

>>37740777
sick trips
how do you not get bloated af on that much mk677? i gained like 4 kg in a day on 12.5 mg ed
does the bloat not increase with the dose? im contemplating upping the dose to 25 mg ed but i dont want to look too much like a hippo

>>37740839
The Gays like me more
women still dont like me
im not that jacked tho

>>37740847
Ive gained about 5lbs in a week, but very little bloat. Awesome pumps, most the weight seems to be glycogen.

>>37740839
I get looks all the time but it's probably the combination of build, height and face. My ex's first words to me were "omg you're huge" but she prefers bloof over tren striations, and that's legitimate. Some people have specific preferences physically, but obviously who you are is what keeps people around.

My size is a great way to get my foot in the door but it doesn't help with closing.

>>37740904
i seem to bloat a lot on it
idk

>>37740864
Gay attention is more valuable anyway

>>37740907
Tf is bloof?

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>mfw decided to go
>byebye gainz.

>>37740864
don't delude yourself, it just because you are a manlet and in sweden manlets are sub-human

>>37740907
Well that's what I was wondering. I'm 6'4 with decent facial aesthetics and a sick jawline so I was thinking about hopping on.

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>>37740907
daily reminder

>>37740935
for sure, chicks are for fags
>>37740958
i didnt say there wasnt another reason
>>37740976
stop giving me feels anon

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>>37740907
>I get looks all the time but it's probably the combination of build, height and face.
me too but not positive ones

>>37740976
Exactly. The reason women always get attention, is because women are objectively more attractive than men. It's why attractiveness in a man can often be attributed to feminine features.

Basically, a 6-7/10 woman will get as much, if not more attention as an 8/10 man.

>>37740371
>crunch

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>>37741010
No I find the average man better looking than the average female. Women are also whores and can't think objectively

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>>37740823
That picture is great. But ya you were running 280 test before and now you are like 180. Pretty big difference.
>>37740839
Women will want to touch you all the time. Especially muscles most people don't have like traps. Also every female friend I have has grabbed my ass lol.
But I'm not big ramy huge or anything. I don't think girls want that look at all.
>>37740846
Thanks for the link.
>>37740847
Man I never get trips or dubs! Bimbo has had like 10 in the last week. As for the bloat I don't know. It doesn't affect me. You have to control the hunger though so if you are not dosing right before bed you are doing it wrong. Unless you are trying to bulk.

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>>37740976
then what the fuck am I supposed to? Just be more attractive?
Because according to her confidence aint gonna cut it.

>>37741010
and because of their make-up. A 4/10 can change to a 7/10 just by applying make-up.

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>>37741010
80/20 rule

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>>37741039

>>37741047
>then what the fuck am I supposed to?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tuf59ex-U0
Take the black pill

>>37740839
I'm 5'6 in northern europe so I'm just being embarrassing by overcompensating(but when chad lifts he become even hotter) and should just give up. Males are much more aggressive to me now and almost everytime I'm out some tall guy want to fight me.

>>37740963
Same 6'4

Wouldn't say handsome but very masculine.
>>37740976
My girlie complains that when we're out in public together everyone looks at me and not her lmao

Cashier the other night said I looked like Johnny bravo and that was her favorite cartoon. Told her I get that a lot and she was like "fuck j was hoping for an original pickup line". Lmao

>>37741107
post pic of yourself plox

>>37740011
I have no idea why that guy is talking shit, I am definitely dyel skinnyfat

>>37741069
haha lmao so gay right? fuck off 14 year old summerfag

>>37741047
Change sexual attraction. Men will always be there for you

>>37741137
He just looks like a disproportionate weirdo who shoots porn

>>37741047
just because you aren't a 9/10 doesn't mean you can't get laid or improve your current situation

facially I'm probably a 4, being generous. I still get laid a crap ton thanks to my body.

if you're looking for "meaningful relationships," body and face don't even matter that much desu. the average person starts dating a friend's friend, or a coworker or something like that because they bond over some shit they have in common. as long as you aren't repulsive, you're fine.

>>37741156
>as long as you aren't repulsive
ouch >>37741006

>>37739524
That's what I'm starting to think, I do massage the muscle before and after.

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HOW THE FUCK DO I DEAL WITH STRIATIONS? Fuck, I wasn't even bulking that hard. It's just one spot near the left chest/shoulder division. But it's getting bigger even though I'm on a very slow bulk cause of pct.

I'm using cocnut oil but who knows if its working or not...

8 weeks
test e 500mg
tren a 350mg
3rd cycle, but first with tren.

Yes, I am a pussy and I won't blast/cruise soon.

pls help me /fraud/

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>>37741191
Striations are sick bruv

>>37740777
What benefit is there of taking 50mg mk677 over 25mg daily?
Also any studies using 50mg?

>>37741191
>>37741238
pretty sure he means stretch marks

>>37741274
YES.
Fuck, my bad.

>>37741191
Stretch marks look cool. Makes you like bodybilt tiger

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>>37741137
Closest you'll get
>>37741153
Nah

>>37741191
I really really like this pic

>>37741306
Yeah, I guess it's part of the game right

>>37740847
>>37740846
What's your source? I hear a lot of mk677 labs are producing contaminated shit

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>come itt so I can mire you roided up faggots
>no one posts their body but that mongrel MasT

>>37741308
You don't work your neck?

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>>37740846
OK so it is MENTIONED in this study that 100mg is the peak before diminishing returns but it is not explained how they reached this conclusion. They seem to be referencing another study that I have spent about 15 minutes looking for but I can't find anything.
>>37741153
>He just looks like a disproportionate weirdo who shoots porn
But the question is, would you hit it?
>>37741241
Ya there are studies up to 1mg/kg of bodyweight per day. It does scale with dose but up to what point I don't know. That's what we were talking about earlier. Where the upper limit of mk677 is.

>>37741336
Traps lag imo but I get a lot of compliments on them?

>>37741308
Mirin chest big boi

No homo. Chin too weak

>>37741330
Si.
I've gotten new marks on my lats overnight from big back day + carb load

P badass to think about how you got too big for your skin

I have skinny wrists and as a result my arms will always look crap natty. I probably have about 15kg lean mass til I reach natty limit.

When should I start roiding? Based on diminishing returns I reckon the last 7kgs of lean mass will take a couple of years. Any advice on choosing my first cycle?

>>37741333
sick trips
sweedish domestic source, idk where he gets his raws from

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>>37741364
Never gotten weak chin in my life lmao

>>37741348
Yeah it is just briefly mentioned, I couldnt find the study they were referencing either. Just popped another 50mg for the hell of it. We'll see how this goes. Bulking so the hunger is welcomed

>>37741334
>>>/hm/

>>37740976
thank you i needed this . I was always had trouble losing that last little hope I have but now I think Ive finally lost it

>>37740777
where would you suggest to look for mk677, or just tell me how much you paid for it? can you give me as much of your personal experience with it as possible?
thx

>>37741380
Ah ok. I'm in the US. Guess I'll just wait til ceretropic restocks and do it solo

>>37741401
This is upsetting.

>>37741334
>the current year
>not knowing fraud is just a place for trips to argue

>>37741379
Why woke so hard to justify it?
Just admit you wanna be a big guy

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>>37741405
>>37741333
I sell independently tested mk677.
>>37741334
Just go to cbt. Half those guys are probably on shit.
>>37741395
Ya I have always wondered the upper limit. Hopefully one of us can find this study.

>>37741394
The truth is rare

>>37741441
Except the truth about ManletTrashCan. Everyone knows the deal there

>>37741401
here watch this to
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tuf59ex-U0

>>37741394
You ARE a weak chin

>>37741394
obvious diamond face is obvious.

nothing wrong with it, but strong jaw ain't like dat bruhhhhh

also weak chin is meme, just keep it tucked in during fight and you won't get da knockout

>>37741441
I usually only skim through fraud for the questionable aged girls wearing underwear. Usually there's a couple of cunts who make an effort though

>>37741394
What's wrong with the chin?

>>37741460
What the fuck is this even supposed to mean?

>>37741364
>mostflyfat braggin about his new stretch marks

>>37741448
How much for 2 grams

>>37741478
stfu MG nobody wants you here.

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>>37741474
fuck off pedo

>>37741480
Hey, I'm relating here

>>37741478
You know what I'm talking about, Oscar

>>37741460
Nah
>>37741469
Nah
>>37741472
Oh

>>37741501
>Nah
You picked out your robe for when you have aids?

>>37741496
>Hey, I'm relating here
Hey, I'm eating* here
ftfy

>>37741521
Don't know what this means.

>>37741488
Not true

>>37741496
Nope, your posts are a mess

>>37741542
IT MEANS YOU'RE GOING TO GET AIDS IN YOUR BUM!

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>>37741481
$70 US plus shipping. Don't have it for sale yet. I am waiting on lab results.

>>37741565
Well good thing I've got gear already. Fun ride I guess.

>>37741570
As in purity results?

>>37741584
o-...ok?

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>>37741597
Yes HPLC. I test everything I sell and provide the results.

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>tfw waiting on lab results to see if doctor will give me TRT
Pray for me, /fraud/.
It's going well otherwise, though. Went to my first (and I think only) PT appointment for my shoulder, and that went great. She identified the problem within ten minutes and taught me how to address it within another ten.

>>37741621
Good to hear, I've heard the recent mk batches are fucky

>>37738354
hng those dimples, I want to fill them with my cum

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>>37741672
Ya you gotta be careful with those slopes. Never know what they might cut shit with. That's why I test everything.

>>37741717
5/3/1 blows. 3 sets of your main lift. baka.

>>37741951
Well if you do it properly you have 3 sets at working weight and at least another 5 sets of 10 at 55-65% intensity. On any given day I probably do at least 10 sets of warm-ups, working weight and "assistance" of the main movement.
Anyway just read the book. No one who has actually read the book says stupid shit like "lol only 3 sets so dumb."

>>37741622
If your test is high, use LGD and get retested. If your test is low but still normal, use ostarine and get tested. Just don't use LGD if your test is low already or youll be too low and the doc will know

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>>37738271
I frontloaded 2.75g before.

GOML

>>37741951
>what are joker sets
>i didnt read the book

ex and i discussing moving together in the Fall. intense.

>>37742181
you have the worst life

>>37742126
Eh, I don't plan on cheating the tests. Good to know though...
Got it checked a few months back, and it was around 322.
>>37742181
Why do you still call her your ex?

>>37742199
Jerrbears

It's not awful. Weird af though. I don't see what's awful about planning to be in the same city as the girl I see regularly.

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>>37742181
>ex
>is dating her
>films porn with her
This much denial, you're madly in love and gonna have the most intense marriage and divorce the world has ever seen bby

>>37739129
whatever happened to stoya

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>>37742215
didnt you say you were moving to another city and that you two had no future together? make up your goddamm mind motherfucker

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>>37742181
>>37742199
>>37742205
Holy shit lol

>>37742226
Everything but the marriage part, probably.
>>37742235
I'm moving to Philly for the summer/fall. She's looking to move by Fall. I think we're just gonna coordinate plans.

So I was at the gym last night, my headphones got snagged on the preacher curls machine, phone flew out of my pockets and explodes on the floor. Yay for new phone.. Fml

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>>37742226
A part of me wants to agree

>>37742235
Perfect girl

>>37742247
I look forward to one day living vicariously through your ig

>>37742252

What is best app for fit without jailbreaking my meme phone

>>37742263
yo you have my IG?

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>>37742263
yup

>>37742123
>>37742153
I have. Its not enough volume. 5/3/1 advanced is just an attempt to put a band aid on a routine that just isn't as good as so many other programs you could be doing. Kinda like that program you linked up there. You tossed a retarded shitload more volume and frequency than the original program had to get a response. Spin it how you want, 3 working sets, and 5 sets at low intensity isn't much. Joker sets add the auto regulation aspect of programming but you're still only doing them on the same day as your main lift. If you wanna get your main lifts up, theres better ways to go about it. If you wanna lift 6 days a week, ppl, then why even use 5/3/1 as your main movement's rep range? Sheiko, conjugate, rts, gzcl, all better methods. Even james lewis and chad wesley smith have great programs.

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>>37742247
You're 100% going to propose in a moment of madness and then just roll with it

>>37742263
It'll happen
We all know it
He kept saying he wouldn't even talk to her anymore but they're dating minus the label of "dating"

>>37742308
I feel like "We shoot porn together" is a type of relationship status that says all it needs to.

>>37742308
>>37742247

Wasn't she a cheating whore? From what I can remember. You're making a grave mistake bimbo

>>37742334
No. She never cheated. That was a different ex.

This girlie is just young and a handful. Super loyal, if not obtuse.

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>>37742329
>we shoot porn together
Just screams sad as fuck to be honest
BUT you don't fuck other people, aside from you putting your dick in other dudes butts.
I can't understand those por stars who are married but fuck other people.

>>37742334
Aren't they all?
Also lesbian?
Or is that a different one?
It's hard to keep track because bimbo keeps fucking the same girl and claiming he never will anymore

>>37742302
>volume is autoregulated
>not enough volume
i agree that it isnt a great program but saying it doesnt have enough volume is unfair because you decide how much volume it has
5/3/1 is basically just a periodization template at this point

>>37742302
My only thoughts on the volume issue is that the program was geared towards natty lifters. Of course you are gonna need to add volume and intensity on gear.

>>37742368
>>37742370

Bimbos love life is too hard for me to keep track of. it's all over the place.

>>37742375
5/3/1 is literally the worst program ever

>>37742269
You have an apple? idk what app they used for android clover is the best I have used

>>37742370
Sad as fuck? In what capacity? There's just no real hard label for it right now. I'm not concerned with compartmentalizing the relationship though.

>It's hard to keep track because bimbo keeps fucking the same girl and claiming he never will anymore
Ahahaha true

>>37742391
it is geared towards old natty men

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>>37742287
Nah

>>37742294
I could write a long autistic essay about why she's perfect. facial symmetry jaw maxilla godly profile text book aesthetic

Easily a GOAT contender

>>37742308
Not marriage but definitely on again off again dating for a very long time.

>>37742329
Check your mail 1 sec

>>37742392
He's living life in the fast lane.

>>37742395

Do I need to jailbreak for clover? I don't wanna do that right now..

I'm literally an ignorant fuck when it comes to roids.

All I know is I was told cheaters use them but damn the effects though.

Where does one even obtain roids and what are the best kind?

I know I'm an idiot, feel free to emphasize it.

>>37742509
u r dum lol

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>>37742392
I still want to write a book based on his love life
It would 100% be a best seller drama

>>37742400
>in what capacity
I said exactly how it's sad, or rather could be.

>>37742415
Very messy on again off again dating
They'll be living together one week and the next she will burn the house down
Then he will smack her around during their next shoot as punishment

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>>37742526
Yep.

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>>37742509
ur n idito

>>37742474
no you dont

>>37742415
>I could write a long autistic essay about why she's perfect.
Orrrr you could draw another Sweet picture.

>>37742509
are u a grill if yes do u have cute feet and how open are u to be licked

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>>37742415

>>37742544
What
Since when are you back
Whats up dudefriend

>>37742535
Totally not looking to live with her. Learned that lesson already. Just same general area/city.

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>>37742556
Too much work

Here's a gif. R FOR ROID

Crazy to think she's a feminist

>>37742566
Nice

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>>37742509
not so smartie pants

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>>37742592
Sure you're not :^)

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>>37742590
damn u still alive

im come on sometimes lately but barely post

still in army doing great man and now back home for my summer holiday brah what bout you??

>>37742605
Is this a VC pepe? Memes are fucking weird. Someone painted that.

>>37742616
How's the diet working?

>>37742474
No you just have to download a different installer thing. The clover website explains it all

Ppad really works
Pizza pie a day

>>37742415
>could write a long autistic essay about why she's perfect.
I'll send you my notes on azusa

>>37742758
I love it. Ate two yesterday.

>>37742645
>How's the diet working?
No more bloat, which is nice
Need to get protein to have through the day though
Because I'm eating most of my food towards the end of the day it's too hard to get enough protein each day
Gonna have to have a couple shakes during the day to fix that
Priority here is getting big

>>37742782
50g casein + 25g oat powder e3 hours

>>37742768
Damn 2?
Gotta save some room for protein

>>37742809
haha pretty much what o was thinking
Only problem is I hate protein with water, always have it with milk, which bloats me like all fuck
Anything to get big god dammit

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>>37742837
>not sure why I had this screen capped
>bimbo had a gf

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For the first time in a while I didn't look up trannies today.
Spent 180 on anime figs tho
B O S S

>>37742938
Manlet and bimbo sitting in a tree
D e b a t i n g g f

>>37742370
>I can't understand those por stars who are married but fuck other people.
Sounds like any normal open relationship to me.

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>>37741394
Will this jawline improve once I start taking gear?

Looks like clover isn't for iPhones? What is best iPhone app for 4chan.

New phone who dis

>>37742998
safari

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>>37742977
Kek pretty sure nothing chnaged
They're just not using a label

>>37742987
>open relationship
Why bother?
Guess because I'm not Swedish I'm not in to the idea of other dudes fucking my girl

>>37742990
kys

>>37743159
Well?

>>37743167
you are fat as fuck senpai drop some bodyfat. some compound will make you carry less water, they will make some difference. But you are deluding yourself if you think it will ever become good or that you will ever become good. HEIGHT FACE FRAME was determined at birth you will just have to accept that you are a genetically inferior male. Stop trying to chase impossible goals and think that doing this or that will somehow transform you will be the thing that make you attractive.

>>37743140
>Why bother?
Because you might still love the person a lot but sexually speaking things get stale after a while.

You'd obv not understand since you're an autistic fat midget who hasn't been together with a worthwhile chick for long enough.

>>37743209
I'm 6'4 and I think my jawline is pretty good honestly, just wondering if gear will make it look better.

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>>37743285
Getting this mad just because I don't appreciate your lifestyle
I guess having a good sexual relationship is part of what I want in a relationship
So there would be no need to fuck anyone else