/Fraud/ General

>>37607429
Just eat at maintenance with carb cycling or still a standard cut?

>>37607567
No you are gonna have many below maintenance days followed by high carb refeed days. Just Google it.

>>37607484
in4 qts

Fraud sure is ded

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>>37608351
Fraud is occupied by chads, it's saturday night which means they're all out partying and fucking stacies

>>37608375
I got high and ate ice cream, even though I'm usually out on weekends I'm feeling fluish today

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>>37608375
I'm on dnp and worked all day, BUT going to ride roller coasters with faggot trans friend tomorrow.

>>37607484
FAGS

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>>37608375
Stay jelly fuccboi

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>>37608621
Contrary to popular belief having sex with a pillow doesn't make you a chad, jerry

>>37608639
Popular belief is that it doesn't, so if it's contrary that means he is a Chad.

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>>37608659
Contrary to popular belief you should fuck off with your logic

>>37608621
>>37608639
If only grills saw you in the alpha way that I do Jerry

>>37608639
I don't follow your rules
I've left humanity behind
Alpha

>>37608710
Girls aren't worth talking to

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>>37608836
Its okay jerry, you'll find someone one day, I believe in you.

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>>37608710

.... Is it the angle, me, or is she just so skinny its scary?

How the fuck.

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>>37608867
I've already found someone

>>37608375
>would do unspeakable things to.

>>37608937

I Just cant tell whether you're trolling or dead serious.

Good job Jerr.

Maybe youll be able to 3d print azusa in the future.

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>>37608907
Puffy vulva

>>37608964
100% serious
Why would I joke about love~~

>>37609017

I meant the sticklegs.

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>>37609030
Who cares so puffy

>>37609017
>Puffy vulva
Thats called the mons or mons pubis and its my fetish

>>37608907
Gross. Who drinks gin?

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>>37609112

Something something bikini bridge.

>>37609147
Patricians
Gin Gimlet is god tier

>>37609152
hnngg

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>>37609112
P u f f y
V u l v a

>>37609112
>>37609152
>>37609170
Those arent the same thing.
Mons pubis is jsut having a fat puffy pussy
Bikini bridge is from being anorexic.

>>37609197
found the feminist

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>>37609223
? Cause i said anorexic? Nah mate i just like high test.

>>37609197
Mons pubis is the anatomical name of that part of the puss
Fukn queer

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>>37609197
If from when they're young so a billion chads havent destroyed the pussy mound and created a roastie

>>37609270
Pretty much
>>37609266
Mad?
>After puberty, it generally becomes covered with pubic hair and enlarged. The fatty tissue of the mons pubis is sensitive to estrogen, causing a distinct mound to form with the onset of puberty.
Low estrogen women, no pubis.

>>37609266
And mons montis is a band

https://m.soundcloud.com/monsmontis/swept

>>37609197

>anorexic

Riiiight.

High test is best amirite!!??

High test isnt neccesarily obese. Nor is bikini bridge reserved for anorexic grillz.

Seriously, you sound like a neckbeard complaining about how abs are for douchebags.

>>37609112
>the puss was fat
candice_on_cam

Too much? Maybe... just maybe.

>>37609383

NoAC.ouch.

>>37609388
Always ac cause I'm so icy

>>37609368
Bro i was just joking god damn chill out. ROid raging?

>>37609383
Dude I've seen that chick before
Absolutely ridiculous
Looks like those guys who inject silicon into their dick

Havent been doing much cardio lately and im feeling shitty as. Might go do some this afternoon, hopefully get rid of this bloat.

How much yohimbine should I take tomorrow morning. I have 30mg mixed up in a bottle already, I've been doing about 25mg a day for the past 2 weeks or so and it's been fine

>>37609421
Breh it's unreal. You could probably suffocate eating her out.

You reckon her cooter is natty? I still can't figure it out.

>>37609473
10mg twice a day

Morning and evening fasted cardio.

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>>37609247
>Nah mate i just like high test.
This form of degeneracy is unacceptable in my /fraud/! Go back to your fat girl threads!

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>Finally get home
>Milo has 81 new tweets
Wtf
>>37609484
ComfyCouch will you assist me in a fit grills thread tomorrow, haven't seen a good thread in a while.

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>>37609485
Does being /fraud/ mean you like your gurls the same way?

>>37609484
I truly don't have the motivation for 2x cardio a day. I can get in the gym twice a day, once in the morning for cardio and then at night for lifting but I'm usually done lifting just after midnight and I can't bring myself to do cardio then

>>37609517
Check your mail

>>37609524
I just go for a 20 min walk outside.

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>>37609518
Nah, I don't like girls who are huge like the old womens body building class that thank god got shit canned. But girls who compete in figure or bikini are titties approved. Physique class is pushing it, most of them are too muscular for me.
Basically women should accentuate what makes them beautiful which is not being huge. Muscle is beautiful in my opinion but women were never meant to be huge. There are no huge genetic outlier women, there are ridiculously beautiful genetic outlier women though, and if they get lean and work out they look amazing.
Men on the other hand can be naturally huge so seeing huge guys is attractive in it's own way.
>>37609568
Lmao so that's why you have been posting under that name. Oh well, another time.

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>>37609602
God I really need to work on my run on sentences. My mother would be ashamed.
>Tfw English teacher mum

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I'm starting adrol this week, I'm excited.
Also dirty ing my bulk because I have no appetite.

>>37609602
>women should accentuate what makes them beautiful

Exactly. Being extremely young is the most erotic part of the woman.

>>37609641
Would she spank you with a ruler and call you a bad boy if she found out?

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>>37609642
You are in the states right Jerry? How exactly do you order a hooker? I am moving soon and not really trying to get involved with a girl just to end up leaving her.
>>37609656
>Would she spank you with a ruler and call you a bad boy if she found out?
I wish =(

>>37609642
Drol is goat
You'll love it

>>37609410

I havent slept in, Whelp, officially hit 72 hours.

I think I can finally sleep now though. Im
getting sleepy.

>>37609642

Jerry pls. Everyone knows gryllz 3-4 years into puberty are best. Well, maybe mast doesnt.

Its 3-4 years, not 6 months into puberty.

>>37609722
>I havent slept in, Whelp, officially hit 72 hours.
Why???

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>>37609722
>I havent slept in, Whelp, officially hit 72 hours.
You worry me man, have you ever tried massive doses of THC? I don't mean smoking it, like either a tincture in everclear or coconut oil infused with THC? Strong edibles will wreck most people and it's easy to just lay down and feel all amazing and pass out.

>>37609756
He has insomnia or some other disorder I believe

>>37609821
But jesus 3 fucking days???
Dude why havent you had a sleep study done or something youre going to fucking die.

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>>37609844
He tries to do cardio and stuff to wear himself out. I guess ultimately he has access to pretty strong drugs like seroquel in case he really needs to go to sleep.
Is this thread already dead? I just got home like 45 mins ago you shitlords!

>>37609756

Because I wont fall asleep? I Just took 5mg etizolam. If that doesnt do it im shooting morphine.

Oh, and I kept morphine around for this purpose only. Its not recreational.

>>37609761

Its insomnia, but intermittent.

I dislike drugs that make me slow. Relaxed is fine, but slow? Nope.

I'll sleep eventually. I may actually have slept for 20 minutes or so.

I remember it being 2:20 and suddenly I jolted upwards from my couch and it was 2:55.

>>37609844

They tried. But you need to fall asleep for it to work. And you're not allowed to leave the room while waiting.

I got quite sore and bored after 36 hours in a hospital. Waiting for sleep.

>>37609885

I dont do cardio to wear me out. Though I do tend to go work out when I cant sleep but still fit.

I ended up going home after bench dropped to 65kg once. Fullbody, 5 hours straight. I started with my full routine at 110kg bench, when it ended... Maxes were halved.

That was a good day.

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>>37609899
>I dislike drugs that make me slow.
I don't find that THC makes me slow, it just wrecks short term memory, thankfully not permanently. However I will say oral THC lasts a LONG time. Up to 8+ hours. Sometimes it lasts so long that it is truly annoying, like I am sick of being high and I can't do anything to stop being high lol.
Anyway sleep is so important for gains and general health, I hope you find some sort of solution someday.

>>37609899
>They tried. But you need to fall asleep for it to work. And you're not allowed to leave the room while waiting.
>I got quite sore and bored after 36 hours in a hospital. Waiting for sleep.
And they just let you leave? So instead of finding out what the problem is youd rather shoot up with morphine? Dude are you fucking crazy or something?

>>37609945

I might. And being up this long is incredibly rare. AND im still fine around 40-45 hours most of the time.

You know what works? Taking amphetamines during the day. And then quit, dip in energy and zzzzz.

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>>37609899
>If that doesnt do it im shooting morphine.
I totally missed this. How the hell do you get morphine? I was in the hospital once for three days on morphine and that shit was whack as fuck. Time would literally just disappear. I would wake up at like 8am, nurse would come in and give me my morphine shot which was a strange experience in itself. About 5-10 seconds after the injection I would get this strange metallic taste in my mouth and then this wave of warmth from my toes up to my head and then lala land haha. I would sit there and watch tv or whatever and I felt like maybe 20 or so minutes went by, I look over at the clock and it's four hours later lmao. Shit was weird.

>>37609937

Mk677 helps. So does amphetamines during the day.

I might Try this.

A.

>mphetamines around 9:30 PM.
>Workout at 10-10:30PM with redose.
>Home at 1:00, crash from amphetamines.
>zzzzz

Or drop a benzo.

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>>37609996

I bought some. And iv morphine VS IM morphine. Huge difference.

Triazolam works but I Try to keep both benzo and stim usage limited.

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>>37610008
>Mk677 helps.
It helps you sleep deeper?
>>37610024
>I bought some.
Are you in the US or somewhere else?
>And iv morphine VS IM morphine.
I wasn't aware that anyone shot morphine into their muscles. Why wouldn't you just shoot it in the veins?

Maybe try no drugs.

Wow I really need to start taking steroids. Omar Mateen's arm allegedly went from 20 inches to 40 inches

>>37610078
See
>>37608867

>>37610108
Fuck you. I hope you get aids.

>>37610120
I can't believe that they actually wrote it

>>37610108
>Omar Mateen's arm allegedly went from 20 inches to 40 inches
i dont get it

>>37610152
20 inches around his arm.

I have spent every night this week with my ex. Taking a break tonight, but I'll be over there all next week too.

I think we want to capitalize on porn with more than just out scenes, so while we're out of town in fancy hotels were gonna self produce stuff on our room.

Any recommendations on high quality webcams?

>>37608521
How is it?

>>37610132
yeah just read it, what the fuck lol

>>37610171
Don't get a webcam get a video camera. Just use a Canon 70d or 80d with tripod and the kit lens is decent enough for video.

>>37610171
>webcams
No, look at the cams you tubers use. Also you need lots of lighting. It can be natty morning light in a nice hotel with lots of windows or a bunch of studio lightning which I am sure you have seen before.

>>37609984
You know what also works ? Not taking amphetamines at all. Jesus Christ you're a Retard taking amphetamines daily and then wondering why your sleep sucks. Oh what the fuck could be the problem?? Definitely not the drugs causing a massive rise in dopamine and making me feel so energetic throughout the day! Must be that I am plagued by a horrible disease called insomnia.
>Retard.

So, there's this UK Source which sells raw powders, in quite small quantities, 10's of grams. The savings I'd be making on my AI's, orals and ancillaries would be insane, and I wouldn't even really have to bother 'brewing', right?

What's the disadvantage?

>>37610074

Its harder for me and it calms me down enough IM.

Also, pinning veins straight with morphine can be dangerous. Its not a drip its straight up everything at once.

I need a tinder profile review. Gimme the groupchat invite.>>37610078

I had one beer today. Nothing more. Last stim was 8-9 days ago apart from 100mg modafinil about 25 hours ago.

Yknow what helps? A full shot IM of 150mg diclofenac. Thats 60 pills kicking in at once.

And its an nsaid so hardly dangerous.

>>37610233

Once again. I HAVE ONLY BEEN DOING DRUGS FOR 6 MONTHS.

I had the same issues for over a decade. And Im sober and have been for over a week. Apart from modafinil 24 hours ago, but the effects last 4-5 hours tops.

Also, mdma helps me sleep.

>Qt3.14 texts me all day today
>going out on thursday

lets do it lads.

>>37610276
Which qt?

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>>37610244
>pinning veins straight with morphine can be dangerous.
I am not an expert on shooting shit into your veins by any means but that's how they do it in the hospital?
>>37610276
Let us pray brehs.
May your tren dick be strong and may the Zyzz watch over you so that you can dbolish that poon.

>>37610260
Yeah even if you had a sleeping problem before I doubt your current drug use is making it any better. Sure at times it may seem to help but Long term you're wrecking yourself.
How much amphetamine do you take daily ? You know itis catabolic as fuck beyond 20mg ?

>>37610282
>>37610294

pray for me lads.

and new QT3.14 anon, not the one who ignored me.

Not gonna go straight for the poon unless it ends up at that, shes actually really cool powerlift chick. I think i want more.

>>37610294
No we mostly give morfine subcutaneously for acute pain relief. For longer term indeed morfinederivatives via venous canule is used.
Thing is if you inject a bolus iv it will make people high and only reduce pain a little and quickly wear out. That's why they choose a more slow release form.

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>>37610316
Give us pics m80

>>37610244
But isn't diclofenac an anti-inflammatory?
How does that help?

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>>37610319
There were a lot of words in this post that I am not familiar with and I don't feel like googling. All I know is my one experience with morphine was three shots a day via IV and that shit absolutely wrecked me.

>>37610296

I dont do it often. And im on gear. Its catabolic because bmr goes up.

>>37610335

Offlabel drug for migraine. And its a muscle relaxant. So... It feels like mdma but without the high. Your body lets go.

>>37610345

Normally they drop morphine into the IV tube. But tracé amounts.

Pinning all at once means youll get high. Or, if unlucky, die.

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>>37610369
>Normally they drop morphine into the IV tube.
Are you talking about a slow release kinda thing? All I know is the nurse would come in and screw the syringe (I guess it was a typical luer lock syringe although this was way before I was into steroids and all that?) into the IV thing on my arm and shoot the whole thing at once and like I mentioned earlier in about 10 seconds I was done. I have no idea what the dose was.

>>37610210
Okay dope.

I would like to begin my first cycle (yes, I know, blast and cruise is better) soon.
But I am really afraid of the feds intercepting my package.
I am currently in training for a job that doesn't allow me to commit any crime.
Means if I get caught with juice I'll get fired.

Are there any safety measures?
Or do you just get it delivered to your house and hope the stealth package will be enough?

>>37610327

If I didn't give a fuck I'd drop pics. Just imagine QT3.14 who diddlylifts. 10/10

We're gonna diddlylifts and get swole together. Oats n squats.

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Do you not sleep or something?

>>37610215
A lot of you tubers use smart phones and a mini tripod

Smart phones are getting really good

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>>37610565
>A lot of you tubers use smart phones
Yes but we are not talking about some stupid vlog. This is high quality porn that people are paying money for and it demands a lot of attention to detail. No one is watching or paying money for iphoneporn.com shit.
Goodnight famiglia. I leave you with my favorite bedtime song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqA3qQMKueA

>>37610609
Holy shit I'm dying lol

>>37610657
It's good enough. People would still pay well.

I would suggest you look at extra lunch money dot com.

>>37610360
No its parabolic in itself. If you're cycling then you don't need to worry about that unless you're taking huge amounts tho.

>>37610729
Catabolic* damn autocorrect.

>>37610657
hwo do u have so many pics of dudes with fake tits and wigs?

>>37610413
I always get IV morphine if Im in the hospital aswell. Pretty standard where I am.

Also capitalist, you take mk677 before bed with 10mg melatonin? Or was that someone else.

Your package is supposed to arrive on monday or tuesday, will leave good review upon arrival

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>mfw no dnp progress pics

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What are some good youtubers that talk about roids? Thinking something really easy like John Green or something rather than like Rich Piana who talks about himself. I want to learn as much as possible tbqh no bullshit

>>37610890
Bostin Lloyd

>>37610260
Ur just an attention whore m8

Fap, get off your computer and into your bed you piece of shit
>havent slept for days i need speed to fall asleep guys
Jeez

>>37610802
>not liking muscular women

Also no fit women in my whole Fuckin town, closest we get is cardio bunnies

http://www.samuelwbennett.com/sex-income-and-happiness/

Get money fuck bitches make gains

>>37610974
There's muscular women

And then there's dudes with wigs

>>37608907
It's just foreshortening.

>>37610933

You're retarded and take things out of context. Go be an illiterate cunt somewhere else.

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>>37611046
This woman is too big, all the others in this thread have been fine

>>37610802
>Being so emasculated that you feel this is 'manly'
Spotted the DYEL

I've realized the reason my arms look bigger is because I've been hitting Bi's more often and harder
They're a lot bigger than they were before
Every idiot who doesn't train bi's or only does 1 or 2 curls is missing out

>>37611398
Wait... so you're saying exercising specific muscle groups makes them bigger ?!?!?! Did you already write an article and submit it to the New England journal of medicine ??

>>37611425
I KNOW!
Who would have fucking thought?
I'm actually corresponding with top scientists and YT bodybuilders right now to get the word out on this.

What I mean is that I barely bothered hitting bi's because of a combination of memes about curls and tri's being bigger so surely good tri's should make your arms look bigger.

But no. Work ALL your fucking muscles kids.

>>37611425
>>37611453
>try hard cringe

>>37611475
You're cringing at him making fun of me poorly explaining myself and then me piling on in a self depreciating way?

Jeez your life must be tough anon
Busy tipping that fedora at everyone and avoiding eye contact and small talk because it's all too cringey

>>37611453
Lol you picked it up quite well actually thought ur gonna be butthurt.
Can you post a progress pic ? I remember you were a little smaller than me before you started last year then became almost my size after the first cycle or so.

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>>37611518
I have no issue with genuine criticism or humour.
Your post was both.
I have my back pic saved so I'll post that
But the front pics aren't on my phone.
A bit bigger, a bit bloofier but mostly looking better.

>>37611567
Thick solid tight mate. Keep it up.

>>37611567
Did bricks advice on diet/nutrients help on the bloof?

It was either him or bimbo i remember giving you specific advice for it

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>>37611571
>progress pics and vids
Yup the whole meme I'll keep it up kek

Currently at the gym so this is the best I can do in terms of front pic
Just imagine acne scars on the chest and only just visible abs haha

>>37611589
It was bimbo and yeah I pretty much started doing what he said and saw results immediately.
Don't have the whole stomach thing going anymore, looking much better

>>37611596

Looking heaps better.

What exactly did you do for the bloof?

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Yo fellas, I'd like to know more about hitting the gym while on Speed. Is it good? Bad? Or Gtfo?

>>37611631
Pretty much just cut carbs out until just before and after I lift
Only having protein during the day
I look much leaner as a result
Although I'll straight up admit that a big part of that could be the fact il eating less through the day and most of my food is now in a 4 hour window

Are hcg and an AI really necessary for a 1st time cycle of test-e? I thought I researched it well but after seeing a shitshow about a similar topic in the last thread, I'm a little confused. I was gonna start my first cycle this week but if I need an AI and HCG, ill put it off for another week so i can get everything I need. If it matters, like the other guy in the last thread I'll be injecting 500 mg of test e every week.

>>37611858
I'm just a little confused because some websites say you need to have an AI, but when you look at the rest of the website, it's just 3 or 4 articles about them with links to their RC website, which makes me think it's just a scam to try and get money.

Whats the shelf life of test e suspended in oil if stored in cool dry room?

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>>37608907
Scary? Why? That shit is great. She eats zilch. Probably so underweight she can't get pregnant, and she'll be so bombed after that one gin fizz tickle that she'll do all the filthy ass eating stuff you want.
Basically all the same reasons I want to fuck Trappy.

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>>37609247
That's just a run of the mill fat girl you dunce.

>>37611878
Get an AI. They're cheap and mitigate sides, you can wait.

>>37611858
You should have ai and serms on hand, in addition to pct

>>37612182
and if my research is right, a pct is just continuing to take an AI and hcg, right?

>>37611639
Don't pull a zyzz m8
Roids + stims = forever skelly

>>37611596
Miron, you got big man

>>37611596

You're developing a Jason Genova arm-hook, watch out.

>>37612197
No you take SERMS for PCT and no AI generally unless you also needed it on cycle. If you wanna take HCG you should consider using it on cycle at like 400IU twice a week rather than pre PCT, its more effective and buttloads of HCG can cause gyno issues etc.

>>37612579
My bad 400IU/week injected every 3-4 days. So 200IU twice a week.

500mg Test
600mg EQ
1g Tren

Gonna run this for about 3 months. Hope I don't die.

>>37612711
Why tren and eq, you wanna bulk with tren?

>>37612579
OK. I gotta go to work so I'll make this quick and keep updated on my phone

I read what HCG does again, and I'm not convinced that I would need it for my cycle. If its mainly used to keep my balls full size, I might consider picking it up, but outside of that, I saw no medically sound reason to use it. I am picking up both nolva for PCT, and an AI in case I develop gyno while on the cycle. If there's a reason to use HCG, ill listen (you guys know more than I do about this), but i can't find a reason to use it thats not completely anecdotal or aesthetic.

>>37612764
Dat vascularity and had a couple vials left over. Figure it wouldn't hurt anything.

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>>37611878
This. Day 21 of test e 250mg e3d here. I feel pretty good, except for some bloating which isnt bad tho. Lost some ab definition but im ok with that.
No itchy nips, no acne, no hairloss (yet)

Havent taken an AI as my source told me only to take it in case of gyno. Have arimidex on hand but do i really need it? Not sure, leddit is all about AI from day 1 but i think crashing your estro is worse than some bloating.

What do you guys think about that? Pretty nervous cause first bicycle

I've been on TRT for 4 weeks now and I feel hungry always. went past my limit for more than 10 days. I gained 10 pounds but its not fat and my E level is under control. Is it ok? should I listen to my body? kind of sucks that I am already at about 20% bf.

>>37612847
crashed estro > gyno and having to salvage that situation

>>37610657

>hahn
>not heifetz

Pleb

>>37612916
Yeah but what if i dont get gyno?
Especially at that dose the risk is pretty low

>>37612781
Its supposed to help recover you test levels back to (near) normal values after the cycle. With just nolva you have a bigger chance of not recovering fully to your baseline natty test values. Its not just to 'prevent the balls from shrinking temporarily'. Of course nothing is a guarantee and you might be fine without hcg, only time will tell.

>>37611567
u'd look pretty good if you cut down

let's say I am on TRT, do xenoestrogens and diet still affect my testosterone levels or is its level immune ?

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FOOD PREP

for 3 days; 3kg chicken and lots of veggies.

#TIMETOGETSHREDDED
#NOEXCUSES
#WHATEVERITTAKES
#KETO
#NOCARBS

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>>37613185
OH, forget my name.

easier to prep it for couple of days, then ed, like i used to do

>>37612881
If you're that fat you shouldn't listen to your body as it obviously doesn't know what the fuck its talking about.

>>37613185
>no carbs
>greenbeans

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>>37613303
7g carbs at 100g. Same with broccoli. Still negligible.

Watch and learn how i get rid of the fat with green beans

>>37613336
Hey mast when you are bulking do you also do some sort of carb cycling / carb back loading or the normal standard carb prot all day every day?

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>>37613431
No, that makes no sense.

Bulking is carbs ED. You need the carbs to grow.

For cutting it's because refilling glycogen etc. And to promote more fat loss. Don;t know the exact science about it. But i know that it works, that for sure.

>>37613488
Some carb timing?

>>37613559
for cutting yes. 1 banana post workout, is what i always do.

when bulking, i just eat carbs with each meal. No timing really. Post workout carbs would be the most important timing imo for both cutting and bulking

>>37613085
so i should puck up HCG for pct, but not use during the actual cycle, right? I dont wanna ruin my natural test levels forever, because im only planning on cycling maybe once every other year.

>tfw finally running out of gals test

Back into the fires of pip and fakes for me lads

Fuck just got finished packing my lunch after doing 30min of fasted LISS after 30mg yohimbine. I'm shaking like an alcoholic who hasn't had a drink in 2 days.

And there's a big bag of fucking bite size twizzlers sitting on the counter 4 inches from my hands right now

Help me bros I'm supposed to stay fasted for another hour and a half

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>>37610687
>extra lunch money dot com.
Great business idea. Anytime you can be the middle man you make tons of money for not doing a whole lot.
>>37610830
>you take mk677 before bed with 10mg melatonin?
Thank you for your patronage. I do 50mg before bed. No melatonin though, even 3mg makes me feel super tired and hazy the next day. I don't really do sleeping drugs well. If I can't sleep I will just have a few drinks or smoke some weed or both.
>>37612926
>heifetz
He plays it too fast. I like how Hahn drags out some of the notes so perfectly. There is no better recording of that piece than the one I posted in my opinion.
>>37613185
Those green beans look good, nice and fresh.
>>37613303
NET carbs are what matter Jerry. Cmon man you know better.
>>37613897
>yohimbine. I'm shaking like an alcoholic who hasn't had a drink in 2 days.
Yohimbine, not even once.

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>>37613897
I'm about to eat a thick ass reuben
It looks so good
Several inches of beef tall
Fuark

>>37613926
when are you restocking famalan

>>37613977
>Several inches of beef
>mfw azusa can't say the same about her husbando

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>>37613977
But the real question Jerry is, would you eat a girl's puss that looked like the roast beef on that Reuben?
>>37614033
I placed an order on Thursday. Just waiting for the package. Sometime next week I should be back up.

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ordered my first cycle

500mg test e/per week
12 weeks

5"10 13-14% 180-184lbs 5 years of training

will be my first time pinning, what am are good goals to set? I'm around 270 bench 435 dead 325atg squat and 175ohp strict gym 5-6 days a week.

>>37614064

What do you think?

Formerly big and lean. Now skinny after months of not lifting. Strength not down much.

And on gear. How much better will I look through lifting alone? Just that. No deficit or surplus just being active again?

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>>37614037
Damn...

>>37614064
>eating girls out
Lol I'm not a beta

>>37614067
Atleast a full pl8 up across the board

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>>37613926
Jerry knows nothing bout dieting. He only eats PIZZA

chad EATS PIZZA

What are you currently on? Do you have a cb picture?

>>37614067
are you a blubber powerlifter or what? There are only chad bodybuilders here

We don't need your kind over here. Go be fat elsewhere normie

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>>37614160
no? I don't even consider those lifts good. I don't even use any lifting equipment. Obv aesthetics are important but if you don't think you can look good while moving things heavier then peanuts then leave.

>>37614160
I-I'm not a bodybuilder.. can I still be a Chad

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>>37614136
>How much better will I look through lifting alone? Just that. No deficit or surplus just being active again?
Your body is meant to be used. Athletic bodies always look better right? Cmon breh
>>37614146
>Lol I'm not a beta
Breh, eating a girl out doesn't make you beta.
>>37614390
>I-I'm not a bodybuilder.. can I still be a Chad
"We are all going to Chad it." - Chadbrah

>>37614390
There's a 4pl8 dl requirement

>>37614454
>having THE masculine symbol literally attached to your body
>not using it on girls
>not beta

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>>37614454
>"We are all going to Chad it." - Chadbrah

>>37614454
Mr capitalist if you ever add nootropikas to your sortiment please give us a heads up

>>37614653
yeah maybe he should start selling heroin to

>>37613612

i would prefer to use HCG during the cycle these days.

This end up being cheaper too, as opposed to running huge blasts in one go post cycle.

>>37614454

Mind if, once I start brewin', I hit you up for some advice? We're not competitors anyway.

And the looks thing. Would a month when cutting slowly on 400mg test make a huge difference? Because I havent been serious in 18 months.

I feel, somehow, noobgainz should be there.

Diet will be

>5 eggs, throw out 2 yolks. Small strip of bacon.

>Apple 3x a day.

>eggs again.

>600g lean meat with some veggies.

Should be around 1500kcal

After 3-4 weeks ill add 100-150kcal a day with 3 day intervals.

>>37614675

Ill do that. Anyone interested?

we all know the supplement industry is largely snake oil

but what products would you guys be interested in?

doesnt have to be anything game changing, just useful.

>>37614899
>heroin

I can continue my journey to becoming a estp-tier degenerate

thank god steroids exist and that i have access to them or i would have killed myself already since i would not be able to attempt to compensate for my ugly ass face

low estro making me feel fucked up fuck

How do you guys suggest I whiten my teeth? Any specific good products? I used to use this one gel I got off of ebay, and it worked very very well. Now I got some fucking 14% hydrogen peroxide that is mixed with some other garbage off of amazon from Daywhite and it literally does nothing, and I can't find the old one

>>37614675
Comparing a performance enhancing drug with some stupid no good for nothing drug.
Anon are you still trying to justify your 4week oral only cycle to get swole for Jessica to take your virginity while she fucks the whole football team?

>>37614913
Caffeine free pre workouts are pretty great. Specifically amino energy. Casein whey protien is good. Colean and nootropics in general (yes their in pre workouts). Creatine is good, glutamine actually works to. Most weight loss are BS, beta-alanine and amino acids. Imho I think a lot of workout supplements just rely on the proven staples and throw in snake oil proprietary blend. Try looking to making your own preworkout, 10x better for the price.

Anyone have an update on chem? I miss that fucker

>>37615228
I've only ever used the off the shelf stuff from Crest.
>>37615287
>Caffeine free pre workouts are pretty great.
Placebo's work pretty great too.
>>37615316
Out on work release. He was in a thread a couple threads back.

>>37615287

misunderstood me I think. Wasn't asking for recommendations, more doing a bit of market research

what you WANT to buy?

I'm thinking about developing a testosterone booster that would possibly have usefulness in PCT as well.

ive looked at most of that market and its absolute garbage. Most of it is kitchen sink herbal shit with absolutely no concern for the mechanisms of action.

wtf does bloofy mean fuck gh15 is an annoying fuck when he types

is this intentional to piss me off? is he supposed to pronounce it like "trenbologna" in real life?

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>>37614653
Name what you want. I am not really into those type of drugs and don't know anything about them.
>>37614888
>Mind if, once I start brewin', I hit you up for some advice?
Do not email me about that shit until we exchange pgp keys.
>And the looks thing.
Dude just lift, of course taking 4x natty test is gonna make you look better.
>>37615316
>Anyone have an update on chem?
He was here a few days ago. He is on some kind of work release probation thing.

>>37613926
Yeah its brilliant

>>37613977
>I'm about to eat a thick ass reuben
I like your sandwich choices very much. You're gonna make it.

>>37614160
>That awkward moment when you realize you eat pizza almost daily on a bulk.
Well fuck.

>>37615228
They either banned or stop making the 38% ones iirc

>>37615346
It blows crest away

>>37615362
Subq water retention = bloof

He's not very good at typing. It stuck.

>>37615389
yeah that's it, 38%. it was carbamide peroxide though which should have been even weaker than my current 14% hydrogen peroxide.

>>37615346
I miss Chem

>>37615376
Summoning chem

>>37615362

bloofy refers to the all too common state of huge amounts of water retention in the average steroid user. This is not only subq (subcutaneous, "under the skin") but also intracellular or intramuscular.

I largely agree with the notion. Newbies are fond of drugs like test and dbol because they promote massive size and weight gains very, very quickly, and while they absolutely do build muscle, most of your "gains" will be bloof, and you will look like shit to everyone but other water balloons. Bloof is also largely responsible for causing blood pressure increases.


> is this intentional to piss me off? is he supposed to pronounce it like "trenbologna" in real life?

nobody knows but its possibly because the original GH15 (yes the rumor is the original guy is dead or moved on, and its now a crew of imposters belting out more posts and cashing in on the brand) didn't speak english as a first language and wasn't using a US standard keyboard.

>>37615389
>you eat pizza almost daily on a bulk.
Pizza is the best bulking food.
>>37615422
I do to. And JM.
I wish FL would trip again too.

>>37615460
I wasn't here when FL tripped but damn I do miss JM a little too. Always going on about black hookers and his baby momma

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>>37615228
>whiten my teeth?
I just bought one of these. Will try to remember to post results when I get it. Warning, dudes teeth are jacked up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOfLQkQaX3k

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>first tren run
>60mg of tren ace a day
>with high test
>bulking
>only sides are night sweats/tren cough/shitty sleep
>feel awesome mentally and bigger/stronger than ever
>mfw tren sides are way overblown
>mfw low test with tren is a meme

Where to get mk677?
Heard that shit is tits

>>37615489
It might not have been informative, but it was entertaining.
>>37615552
Only tren sides I ever had was a bit of irritability and a couple days of trensominia.
Till I came off, and had the worst roid acne of my life.

>>37615460
Idk anyone who can't get huge on pizza and mcds.

I've only see black folk get shredded on mcds though. Black genes are real.

>>37615717
>Idk anyone who can't get huge on pizza and mcds.
Truth. I'm only worried about all that salt in my diet.
>Black genes are real.
I used to think that too, until I saw some of the black guys in my gym. lol

A lot of the mental effects of steroids are transient in nature and share a lot of symptoms with hypomania

> Hypomania (literally “under mania” or "less than mania") is a mood state characterized by persistent disinhibition and pervasive elevated (euphoric) with or without irritable mood but generally less severe than full mania. Characteristic behaviors are extremely energetic, talkative, and confident commonly exhibited with a flight of creative ideas.[1] While hypomanic behavior often generates productivity and excitement, it can become troublesome if the subject engages in risky or otherwise inadvisable behaviors.[2] When manic episodes are “staged” according to symptomatic severity and associated features, hypomania constitutes the first stage, or stage I, of the syndrome, wherein the cardinal features (euphoria or heightened irritability, pressure of speech and activity, increased energy and decreased need for sleep, and flight of ideas) are most plainly evident.

gee this sounds familiar.

the mistake is in thinking this is positive in anything but short bursts. The counter balance the body eventually usually comes up with is depressive states. Dont use tren for a long time.

>>37615717
> black genes are real!!

ignores all the blacks who are skinnyfat or hideously obese. Hell i dont even live in america and even I know obesity rates are huge in african american communities.

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Tomorrow is my first DAY OF WORK. I'am gonna wear long sleeves to hide my gains

BYE NEET LIFE. I love you

>>37615389
How do you look tho? And what's your bp like

>>37615460
I also mis JM

Will he ever return?

>>37615745
On tren I need more salt. Post workout mcdubs are GOAT.

Maybe your gym just has all of the shit tier blacks.

>>37615768
There's a difference between east and west Africa. East Africans are pretty shit tier. My Somalian friend can't make gains to save his life. He's naturally skinnyfat. Even in bodybuilding you see traits among races.

>>37615841
You've seen how I look. 115/75

>>37615628
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKtlK7sn0JQ

>>37615841
>Tomorrow is my first DAY OF WORK
Congrats
>Will he ever return?
I hope so. I'm afraid he might of an hero'd in shame though.

>>37615552
High estro is the cause of sides on high test tren runs. You must not aromatize as much. Have fun.

I want to "cruise" on 500mg test for whole year, What should I keep an eye on to stay healthy beside blood donations?

>>37615876
>Post workout mcdubs are GOAT.
Truth. I used to eat 3-5 a day when bulking back when they were a buck.
>Maybe your gym just has all of the shit tier blacks.
A distinct possibility. I was talking with one black dude in my gym bulked all way to 280, lifting for 5 years, still needed a spot to do <2p8 bench in the smith machine.

>>37615884
JJ what did you use as a filler for your dbol. It gave me root beer burps ~20 mins after taking them

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>>37615876
Who are you then? NotOP?

>>37615891
Danke.

No he is too greedy for that. He still needs to collect that heritage from his rich dad

I think he still lurks here sometimes, but don;t post anymore.

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>>37616024
Same as always. Baking soda.

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>>37615876
>Not a post workout green smoothie to reduce exercise induced inflammation

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Ok fuck it i am about to cringe and kill myself from these lymph nodes in my FUCKING FACE FUCK

All of those in my pic that i circled are SWOLLEN AS FUCK and makes me have a FAT AS FUCK FACE.

It has been around two weeks since this shit started and it has barely barely gone down if at all. I just fucking frontloaded some antibiotics lets see how this goes.

You cannot comprehend how FUCKING STUPID this shit looks. FUCK. FUCKING NIGGER FUCK

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>>37616060
>not letting your fascia be stretched as much as it can

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>>37610802
u wot m8?

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>>37616060
What's wrong with murica, with those protesters(jesus hate fags, feminist, trump)

is it because the freedom? what is it with murcica?

this one is acceptable imo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ups4FeSuHvY

>>37616091
>tfw no lifting/fuck buddy

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does anyone else go to the gym twice a day? I do mostly cardio during my second session but I also rep out a couple workouts I may have missed or feel would top off my prior workout. Yes I don't really have much of a social life atm and am trying to make up for the lack of outside time by at least socializing at the gym.

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>>37616097
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ups4FeSuHvY
I love it. Would be bros with.

>>37616144
are you even on a routine if you "rep out a couple workouts you may have missed" or "feel would top off my prior workout"

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>>37616114
Don't get discouraged.

>>37616144
I do every once in a while. But I usually don't have time.
Changing + Lifting + Cardio + Sauna + Shower+ Changing means I'm lucky to get in and out in less then 2.5 hours.

>>37614861
OK, so before i start my cycle, i will need:

>test-e (already have)
>AI (in case i grow bitch tits and for PCT if needed)
>HCG (keep natural test flowing and make recovery easier)
anything else, besides for gear and a diet?

>>37616177
yeah, PPL so for example today is shoulder so i figure I'm gonna go do cardio for 20 minutes then try to do some more ohp, and lateral raises just for reps. This isn't a habit or anything it's just something I've been doing for a couple days and I wanted to ask you guys if it's worth it or not. or if i'll fuck my shit up.

>>37615958
Yeah sounds about right. 2-3 post workout. If I was behind on calories for the day 6.

>>37616029
Check your mail.

>>37616060
My blender broke

>>37616091
>>37616187
sauce? google tells me nothing

>>37615448
of course everybody knows nasser is dead

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>>37616174
me too mirin

>>37616223
Ah i see. kekkk, i thought so. Wasn't 100% sure.

party poopers

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>>37616244
@casssmartin

Gf caught me creeping at her insta and I turned it around and told her I was looking for someone to motivate her. I don't think she believed me but she hasn't missed a day at the gym since.

>>37616389
ty senpai

>>37616389
Insecurity is what brings about self improvement in women. Gj brah she realizes you can replace her.

>>37616411
is 4chanx still getting updated/maintained?

>>37616465
no idea

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>>37616411
yw fampai

>>37616437
True. [spoiler]I won't tho because I love her[/spoiler]

>>37616437
Sometimes. Sometimes it backfires and they get fatter and bitchier.
>>37616476
>I love her
Faggot

>>37616476
hmm nice pic.
Its a shame girls dont wear jeans anymore, i think it looks hot af on a nice ass.

https://forums.t-nation.com/t/steroid-newbie-cycle-planning/97187

thanks for all the help guys, i finally found a source hiding in plain sight for me and other noobs with questions about their first cycle. Seems to be the consensus among /fraud/ and /r/steroids and a few other sites that seem like ads. This would be a very good link to include in an OP

>>37616476
Good man. It sounds like you really have something nice.

>>37616512
At that point they've thrown in the towel kek

>>37616465
It appears that it does!

Huzzah!

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>>37616600

>>37616621
Truth.
>>37616600
>Its a shame girls dont wear jeans anymore
This. Flowery dresses and skirts that cover everything are awful.

>>37616676
oh jesus fucking christ yes.

cant blieve how hot that is right now.


HNNNNGGG

>>37616676
>liking men

>>37616722
heh i actually think flowery dresses are quite cute.

I was rather complaining about hotpants/gymwear/leggings, which are 24/ wear for some girls.

leggings are even a thing in winter ffs

>>37616738
>/fit/
>not liking men
>>37616774
>heh i actually think flowery dresses are quite cute.
Only if they've got a low neck line and show off the tits.

Let me hear some gainz bets on this
>8 weeks o' 900mg test e
>4 weeks o' 60mg dbol
>1500 calories surplus @ 4700 daily

Not at natural limit, but not first cycle either.
>inb4 8 weeks is shorter than you piss
>inb4 BnC

>>37616898
What's your weight at now?
>4700 daily
Yous gunna get fat.

>>37607484
maintenance is 2800, gonna bulk 5000 calories on 500mg of tren, 200mg test for 20 weeks. If I make sure to smash the gym 6 days a week and keep real high carbs, does fraud think the fat gain will be minor?

>>37616982
175 lbs.
I like me some wiggly fat. I don't feel hunger, so it's really only during cycles I end up forcing myself to overeat, then I always end up with a deficit when off

>>37616996
No, I don't think it will.

>>37617053
you think there will be high amount of fat gained too? even with bby tren

>>37616996
2200 above maintenance is a hell of a lot.
>>37617047
You're probably going to hit two hundo plus. A lot of that'll be fat though.

I'd probably do a longer cycle, so I could squeeze in another 4 weeks of dbol

>>37617134
Yeah I'd too if I could, but 8 is the absolute limit due to other life shit.
I can adjust anything within those 8 weeks tho'

>>37617134
your moms a hell of a lot.


fat.

?

your moms really fat.

>>37617134
yeah but tren tho, lots of people here go above 5k dont they?

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>>37616734

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>>37617184

>>37617184

>that quad bulge
>that ass
>that thick but not fat arm
>that waist

fuark

>>37617154
>due to other life shit.
Good luck m8.
>>37617168
Fight me irl faggot.
>>37617182
If I had to guess the people putting away more then 5k probably have a higher maintenance.

>>37617084
No amount or type of gear can make up for you eating nearly twice your maintenance.

>>37617249
>Fight me irl faggot.
You suicidal broski!?

OH YEAH! SHARKBAIT!

I'm about to try clen for the first time for 2 weeks before I go on holiday, anything I should know from /fraud/sters

>>37617250
4000 it is then :(

>>37617262
>You suicidal broski!?
Maybe. Only one way to find out.
Bike racks 3 o'clock.

>>37617184
>>37617193
>womanlets

dropped

Why do people take mk677? How much does it cost? What are the negative side effects?

If you answer me these 3 questions I will grant you a wish.

>>37617311
ITS ONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN FAGGOT

>>37617367
>Why do people take mk677?
hgh effects except for the bad side effects like enlargement of organs. So skin hair, leaner gains, better sleep
>How much does it cost?
1g for about 35usd
>What are the negative side effects?
minor bloat, maybe insulin sensitivity, hunger ( can be good for some)

>>37617405
sounds perfect why isnt everyone running it?

>>37617428
HOLLYWOOD JEWS ARE KEEPING IT SECRET THAT'S WHY!

Dunno why I'm shouting.

>>37617428
hard to find the real deal and if you do, they're out of fucking stock kek

the hunger can be insane for some people (depending on dose), but this limits it to mostly use as a bulking/injury/prevention compound unless you run EC with it, or have incredible mental fortitude

it's best used when in a fasted state and to avoid eating carbs for a couple hours after dosing, hence why a lot of good BBers sometimes don't eat in the morning (allowing them to dose yohimbine/peptides/secretagogues and do LISS)

>>37617428
idk man, some are scared, it is just not very well known. maybe this is why >>37617456
Do I get my wish now?

>>37617456
its always the jews.

>>37617465
Everyone and their nans selling it on the internet tho. I thought it had to be used for a very long time to have any effect? If so it doesnt seem like you can just chuck it in with your bulking stack?

>>37617473
You may my child. What do you wish for?

>>37617489
I wish to win the next eurojackpot so my parents won't have to work anymore and not having to worry about money. I would also donate some money to JM

>>37615448
If dbol makes you retain water subq does that mean that a caliper test on somebody using dbol would give a higher reading than "actual" or no?

how do you avoid also ordering valium and painkillers and shit like that when you're buying steroids from your sauce

>>37607484
Tfw no fraudjuice to find domestically because sources only sell to people they know and I have no contacts

;_;

>>37617489
>Everyone and their nans selling it on the internet tho
Just because everyone's selling it, doesn't mean they're not selling you sugar pills, or a dilution/impure product. There's a source on ebay who tests his, and he sold out very fast as a result

> I thought it had to be used for a very long time to have any effect?
any noticable effect, sure -- unless you have an injury, then you'll certainly notice a difference. It's also very good when combined iwth blasts of high test (if you're using it for muscle mass, not necessarily healing), 500-750mg+

>If so it doesnt seem like you can just chuck it in with your bulking stack?
You most certainly can. Hunger/bloat is what deters most people from using it, assuming they can actually get a good source. The added joint recovery (and if running high test, slightly better gains) is a nice thing to have when you're putting your joints through so much volume.

>>37617268
don't listen to them, do what you gotta do. if you get fat then you'll know for sure.

>>37617713
>There's a source on ebay who tests his, and he sold out very fast as a result
think he said he'd be restocked early next week. not sure how he can test it and get it out in that time frame since most people use jano to test and he is all the way in europe.

is capitalist ot rebranded?
anon conspiracy theories

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>>37617878
>think he said he'd be restocked early next week. not sure how he can test it and get it out in that time frame since most people use jano to test and he is all the way in europe.
My lifting friend is a chemist and all he does all day is test shit in a mass spec. It's simply a matter of driving samples to him and having them compared to the control.

>>37617878
OT IS EVERYWHERE

does a better pump mean you're getting more growth?

yes i am retarded

>>37617182

Tren doesnt change calories in/out.

>>37618066

You are indeed

>>37617182
yeah actual professionals and shit who need 5k, not faggots like you

this is why retards can't handle the trenbolona they don't know shit

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>>37616389
Pretty hot desu. Her var is showing though.

if you run low dose accutane (20mg) can it actually fuck up your liver even if you don't use orals? what about with dbol?

>>37617710
bro i got my shit shipped in from Turkey and i live in the US. Just do what u gotta do

>>37618244
>bro i got my shit shipped in from Turkey and i live in the US

nice low IQ

>>37618306
Hes saying u dont NEED a domestic source u DIIP

>>37616996
Laughing pretty hard. It's like nobody here understands diet.

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>>37618282
Her name is perfection.
>>37618341
Soooo much suuuummmmeeerrrrrr yeeaaaaa

>>37616996
>2200 calorie surplus
>hey guys u think ill gain fat

Also 2800 tdee sounds like a lot

Hey, i hava greek friend who wanna take steroids ,i told him test is enough to look better than 99% of natty lifters but he doesnt believe me.
The noob says he wont cause he read for 2 days straight and test is never taken alone.What to do?Got any pics of test only roiders?

test

If i do a cycle of test will i keep my mutant gains? if not, then how long does it last?

>>37618556
You'll lose intramuscular and subq fluid retention, but keep the majority of your gains if you keep training and eating.

sure is summery in here

>>37618412
Test+flawless diet+strict cardio and routine and sure pal. But test isn't magical, nor are any other compounds. And limiting yourself to just test is pointless.

>>37618556
Only if you don't know how to PCT properly, but cycling is a meme. Blast and cruise or fuck off, unless you already have good lifts and know what you're doing, but you don't

>>37618585
>lose intramuscular and subq fluid retention
nigga what? in english pls, will it be worse than it was before the cycle?

>>37618664
Youre retard

Your muscles will retain fluid on cycle and stop retaining it when you come off

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>>37618664
>nigga what? in english pls
God damnit. Get him outta here! Out out out!

>>37618703
>Your muscles will retain fluid on cycle and stop retaining it when you come off
But i'll still keep most of the gains if i train and eat right?

>>37618735
Yes youll keep your muscle gains

Pls dont roid

>>37618717
Audrey was literally perfect desu

>>37618781
why not?

>>37618353
Pic is me

>>37618717
DIMETIME


>>37618825
>Audrey was literally perfect desu
I knew a girl who was a huge fan and tried hard to copy the look. Cute girl absolutely insane in the worst way. She was a feminist.