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>>37511256
A gift from /vr/

>>37511280
lol

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>>37511280
the original

>>37511291
>>37511280
fucking kek

>>37511256
How long after your blast do you wait cruising to start again? People say time on = time off, but why is that? Is there any actual backing or is it just some broscience bs?

>>37511256
also, why am i hearing in the last thread that you only need 1g of protein per kg you weigh? That means a 15 stone person only needs like 100g of protein...seems way too low?

>>37511462
>15 stone person
where do you think you are britbong

>>37511480
fine 95kg you fucking savages

Alright , scientific question , what other chemical besides cholesterol based roids promotes protein synthesis ?

>>37511462
you should work on your reading comprehension

>>37511526
you should work on giving useful responses

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Cheers brehs. It's Friday and it's summer!

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>>37511526
>>37511534
DAMMNNNNNNNNNNN
Hungry I think you are gonna need some cream for that sick burn he just gave you.

>>37511534
well i wrote out everything last thread so just go back and read that if you want it explained

>>37511534
>>37511526
rekt

>>37511313
pls respond

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>>37511288

post pics of sister pls.

Also, ESTP is indeed alive.

And I should get some sleep and dial back the drug use for a bit. 5 hours of sleeps past 4 days and +- 13 pills or so in 2 weeks

>>37511515
t3

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>>37511515
>scientific question
I'm not really understanding the question?
>>37511313
>How long after your blast do you wait cruising to start again? People say time on = time off, but why is that?
Your body needs breaks. Your tendons, androgen receptors, nervous system, it all needs to chill out sometime. If you wanna last time on = time off or more.
If not then fuckin YOLO BABY!

>>37511648
>post pics of sister pls.
on 4chan?
I'd rather not lol.

Finally got baby's 1st cycle in the mail. Dbol, test e, aromasim, Nolva, clomid,

Used an International source without any hiccups, even though I thought the police van would be waiting at the post office.

Don't think I have the mettle for mail ordering substances that have to go through customs and could get me a felony drug conviction. Even if the chances are incredibly slim. So much to lose if I got busted.

But have no reservations injecting the shit into my body.

>>37511671
yeah but why time on = time off, what is the logic? It just seems such an arbitrary amount of time. But i appreciate the sentiment of your message, i do treat my body like shit sometimes so prob should let it chill

>>37511538
Where u at geographically?

Is TUDCA necessary for a 4 week tbol run to end my test blast?

>>37511256
anyone here 6'4/6'5 and pretty huge, would like to see some body's to aim towards

>>37511755
Florida mostly

I fucking love tren holy shit, the aggression, the anger, the fucking infinite confidence and cockiness and shit you know what i mean, FUCK

>>37511831
It's like u barely even interact with someone and they instinctively know you are a fucking beast without you doing anything specific

>>37511730
>but why time on = time off, what is the logic?
It probably started back in the Arnold Era. They would go on for several months and then off for a while. I can't really say much more other than think of the way your body adapts to everything including drugs. If you want to keep the drugs potent you need breaks.

>always mid pb sandwich
>destroying a hole chickens at lunch
This office wasn't prepared for a trubulk

>>37510205
Np, now you understand my true alpha male status

>>37511803
>doxx ing yourself

>>37511755

>Imperial system

Literally only 3 places it could be.

>>37511862
>doxing
It's already on ebay. But I'm not worried.

>>37511683
>implying you haven't before
come on frank.

>>37511831
I'm on tren right now and I agree, I like the aggression it helps me lift hard, but goddamn do I not like waking up in the middle of the night drenched in sweat. I'm washing my sheets and pillow case twice a week now.

>>37511862
You never did tell me what your favorite animus are after I poured out my weaboo heart to you. =(

Бaмп

2ch.hk is better

>>37511785
Literally impossible, fucking manlets have it so easy

Will a cycle of T3/Clen mess with my natural production of T3 in my thyroid post cycle?

Cheers m8s

>>37511914
ot plox

>>37512016
takes about ~2 weeks to recover in most cases

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>>37511683

yolo pls.

>>37511507
Keep trying

>>37512006
well arnie did pretty well and he was 6'1...just want to see someone a bit taller on here who's got something good to aim for. The 'most hot guy on the internet' is 6'6 and i want to get to his kind of size, but what does a full blown walking fridge at that height look like that is on this board?

or are you all manlets id look down at?

>>37512092
209 pounds you fucking absolute stone age plebs

>>37512131
Jolly good hoist m8

>>37511785
>>37512006
https://www.instagram.com/brockohurn/

>manlets have it so easy
haha yeah totally

>>37512131
Lololol

>>37511785
Bimbo

>>37512211
anyone got pics of bimbo? no homo
>>37512149
the guys a god, i want to look like him - but want a more realistic roided fag from here to see

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>>37512248
ok, what about this one you lanklet fuck

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>>37511946
Anime is shit

Ping pong, Idolm@s, HnK, cyber city 808, I should probably include k-on but I can't watch it any more

>>37512326
cheers manlet, dank shopping - how tall is mast tho just for his upper body? His arms are jooci

>>37511946

you should watch NGE rebuild.

>>37512358
he is 6'0

>since starting roids i have gotten a shitload leaner
>except my face looks like it is 30% bf

On 200 test 400 tren atm, so what the fuck? Trenpp?

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>>37512351
>Anime is shit
Are you a Manga guy? I thought you loved anime?
>>37512370
>you should watch NGE rebuild.
To be honest I grew out of anime. Haven't watched anime in years although it used to be a big part of my life.
I would consider watching something that was really good and emotionally evocative and hopefully makes some kind of political statement.

>>37512372
too short for me to make that my ideal body, will stick with my norse god bae

>>37512370
Eva is shit
Unironically

>>37512424
I was being satirical
That's a list of the b e st

>>37512424

You watched evangelion, you should just sit down and watch the clusterfuck of angst that the rebuild is. Just to compare it to the WTF of the old series.

>>37512479

Eva is fun to watch, and full of angst. I like watching gorn.

Also, Asuka and Rei's behaviour in rebuild is just fun to watch. It all looks hopeful. Then it goes to shit anyway.

>>37512392
Tren can cause water retention in the face when you're on too long, from what I've heard.

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>>37512351
>HnK
Is this Fist of the North Star? If so I have had friends recommend this back in the day but never watched it.
>cyber city 808
Is this the anime in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1S35THmZD_E&index=68&list=PL8AA518FC2BE77520
I might check out some of this old school stuff as I am a big fan of 80's era anime. When I first started getting into anime people would trade VHS tapes at meetups. This was pre napster era.
If you told someone you liked anime people would make fun of you for watching weird tentacle porn no matter what you were actually watching and how hard you tried to convince them that it was good shit. Them was the days breh.

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What routines are you guys running? I feel like switching it up for the summer.

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>>37512604
I love me some 5/3/1 with tons of accessory work.
I also emailed you back a day or two ago regarding viagra.

When I do PSMF, should I be eating just 1g/lb bw of protein, and next to nothing else? How much muscle would I expect to lose cutting from 15% bf to ~8% if I'm on a cruise dose of 100mg e3d?

I'm currently 4 weeks into a 16 week blast.

anyone use metformin?
thinking about picking some up.

>>37512686
>should I be eating just 1g/lb bw of protein, and next to nothing else?
yes
>How much muscle would I expect to lose cutting from 15% bf to ~8% if I'm on a cruise dose of 100mg e3d?
no way to tell but to do it and see

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>>37512686
>When I do PSMF, should I be eating just 1g/lb bw of protein, and next to nothing else?
To put it as simply as possible you are eating nothing but turkey and broccoli with lots of fish oil and vitamins. This video is a decent explanation. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BVhKKLe1eA
>if I'm on a cruise dose of 100mg e3d
This is plenty of test for PSMF, good luck!

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>>37512093
My gymbro is 170cm im 190cm his arms are 39cm Mine are 41cm
He looks like a fucking Greek God and I am barely out of DYEL

Biast opinion obviously and I am jelly as fuck and probably have full blown body dismorphia but I am proud of him and I love him (no homo) but still I hate him ^^

As a lanklet you just need bigger measurements too get the impressive look. If it's harder to achieve is another question

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>>37512686
>>37512700
>>37512725
Here is a more descriptive infographic

>>37512747
haha omg look at the overcompensating SHORT "man" to the right

>>37512747
The thing is, it is harder to get the same good look when you are very tall, but regardless you are tall so you've always got that going for you. When you EVENTUALLY do make it, you are tall as fuck and you are built as fuck and you are a walking god among men. I just take it as a challenge to fill out this loooong body ive been given. We're gonna make it, just gonna take a while.

>>37512601
Yeah it is

80s punchan is the bomb

>>37512700
>>37512725
>>37512755
domo arigato mr robato

>>37512774
6'4 here... I'm not gonna make it..
All those manlets look like fucking jacked superstars next to me.
Miniature superstars, but still superstars.

I need 2 roid.

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>>37512790
>punchan
Is this some kinda slang for anime?
>>37512797
>domo arigato mr robato
Anytime, PSMF sucks donkey dick. Have fun.

body composition wise, what is the difference between doing cardio and eating less calories?

in the natty world everyone says it doesn't matter. is it different on roids? i always see people saying you need to do cardio to get super lean.

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>>37512774
>>37512814
Yeah I still can stand in front of him to make him disappear or behind him to tower above him. My shoulder span is more than his. He fucking hates when I do that haha

If you get some comparison shots it ain't that bad.
We gonna make it, just takes a few grams more tren

>>37512829

I might not have access to a gym for a month next month. And if I do it'll be barebones shit.

Will be joining qt at a holiday thing. Work, have fun, travel for free, but a gym could be absent.

Considering I'm not quitting roids anyway and I'm only just getting started again. Would doing bodyweight shit be enough?

I'm sure she'll help me out when I'm doing pushups by standing on my back or doing pullups with her hanging around my waist.

Anything else would just be leg raises and squats really. Lots of swimming as well, and I reckon I'll use my lower back lifting shit anyway.

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>>37512854
Cardio is important for good overall health. When you are on drugs that are potentially fucking your shit up you DEFINITELY need to do cardio. It lets you eat more calories and feel better in general. Capisce?

>>37512755
What does it mean by 2 week break every 11-12 days?

Also, in the pic, it says to take in 1.5g minimum protein if I'm doing resistance training. Should it be that, or the 1g it says in the pastebin?

>>37512829
Nah, like 80s punching anime
Lots of genres, but all if them featuring ripped dudes punching other ripped dudes were all good in the 80s

>>37512887
Punching fella was dope.

Next week Mossad gonna post over training causes hairloss.

>>37512814
its slower progress, but once we make it'll be a sweeter glory than being a beef manlet that people laugh at.

>>37512857
I feel you, I am in no huge rush, I aim in 3 years time to be BIG, that seems like a decent amount of time given tren being present to achieve this. To become full arnie mode

>>37512873
why dont fags like that shave their body? do they actually think it won't look better?

>>37512954
.implying straight people shave their body beyond the pubic and beard region

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>>37512878
>What does it mean by 2 week break every 11-12 days?
If you are enhanced your "breaks" aka carb refeeds need to be only a day or two. I think if you are natty maybe you need a longer adjustment time since your hormones are actually effected by what you eat vs someone injecting a known constant source of hormones.
>Also, in the pic, it says to take in 1.5g minimum protein if I'm doing resistance training. Should it be that, or the 1g it says in the pastebin?
I would error on the side of lower protein because any protein your body does not use will be converted to carbs. The point of PSMF is no NET carbs, barely sustainable fat levels, and enough protein to prevent muscle loss.
TLDR you are doing a keto diet with fat at 50g or less which is barely sustainable whereas a typical keto diet would have fats at 150g+. HEALTHY FATS people, olive oil, almonds, avocado. Anything with MONOunsaturated fat and a few polyunsaturated fat sources like coconut oil.
>>37512954
>why dont fags like that shave their body? do they actually think it won't look better?
I'm more hairy than that guy and girls love it. Don't fall for the shaved otter meme.

>>37512936
You watched the whole thing already? Are you a neet, mirin

>on 100 mg dnp
>5ml wine
>8mg fina
>7.5 dura applied transdermally
>100 push ups, sit ups daily
>going completely bald
>jew exgf had a thick ass

>>37512996
armpits too.

r-right?

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Shaved and shredded is GOAT

>>37513018
A what?

>>37513042
A neet
Coach is NEET confirmed

>>37513023
nope

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>>37513064
Use real words jerry!

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>>37512645

Yeah been having problems with the internet so I can only use my phone. Should be fixed tomorrow and I'll email you.

>>37512936
One punch man? I keep seeing it pop up on the torrent sites. I just can't get into anime with young protagonists, I can't identify with the feels of being 15 anymore.

>>37513075
NEET

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>>37513113
It's not about a young protagonist. It's about a literal retard with retard strength.

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>>37513112
Fug that's a fine ass honey.
>>37513136
>It's not about a young protagonist. It's about a literal retard with retard strength.
So worse or better than Ippo?

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>>37513179
Idk wtf ippo is ask jerry.

>>37511865
Thanks intelligence face

>>37513204
Ippo is about boxing. It's bad ass if you like fighting sports.
How old are you coach if you don't mind my asking?

>>37513204
disgusting

>>37513204
those thighs can't be real

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>>37513242
I do enjoy boxing and mma. I don't mind you asking but I have a problem posting personal info here.

How long before mental health benefits of test kick in? Are higher doses better for it? Been pinning for 3 weeks @ 500mg

7 weeks into my first test e cycle and I'm just starting to get bacne.

Anyway to stop it? already showering twice a day etc.

>>37513306

Washing too many times causes dryness which causes acne, use benzoyl peroxide and moisturizer, if that does work hit up dat poisonous accutane.

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>>37513284
>I have a problem posting personal info here.
Understandable and respectable.
I think you are highly intelligent and I get the impression that you have spent as much time researching bodybuilding and associated drugs as I have business.
I truly appreciate your contributions to this community, especially as you have helped me directly.
Also you post /fit/ qt3.14s

>>37513284
How do you start figuring out your electrolyte balance?
How much water to sodium to potassium is a good place to start?

>sneaking through gf's phone
>click conversation with her gf who i fckin hate
>my gf is saying proudly how other boys are checking her out
>she's also saying how another guy who they both know from school is looking really looking good atm(happily surprised)
>her gf is talking about another guy who she saw at a party and had him harassed. Fckin whores
So, shall i kill them both and chopp of their limbs. Or eat them alive? Kek

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I cruise and blasted for 20 weeks. Just pctd off and a month after pct i feel fine. Balls r plump i look at them every chance i get. Horny again, and never stopped having sex. What is this about bad pct?

>>37512814
I know a 6'4 guy. About 100-105kg and always under 7-10%. Pretty much maxed on roids used low amounts of GH and slin. Tren as high as 700mg. Deca up to a gram.

>>37513075
Neither in employment or education

>>37513113
It's a comedy
Read it though

>>37512996
I'm gonna shave once I'm shredded. And mt2 + tanning.

G-guys going to meet up with a qt transgirl from tinder should I swallow for maximum gains?

Will I get steroid-like benefits?

>>37513557
how'd you find a transgirl?
yes

>>37513557
Yess

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>>37513414
Thanks brah

>>37513469
Just play around you'll get a feel for it

>>37513475
Sorry about the whores breh. Don't talk to either of them again and focus on getting a job.

as above, not looking for the post

Time on = time off is for myostatin to return to baseline

It's wrong, as after a certain amount of time (20 weeks I think, cbf looking up) it returns to baseline anyway

>>37511256
hi boys can I do a clen only cycle to speed up this fat loss

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>>37513557
Pics?

>>37513615
Yes you caann

>>37513519
Or training

>>37513632
We're all training here though amirite

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Got my bloods taken. Anyone want to offer up some words? Everything look normal?

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>>37512873

pls don't post my pics, thanks

>>37513469
>How much water to sodium to potassium is a good place to start?

it's one of the few things you literally just do by feel, so long as you're eating relatively healthy and not like taco bell or other super salty shit you should pretty much be able to just figure out the sweet spot

>>37513475

kinda sounds like your insecurity's taking the reigns and blowing shit out of proportion

>>37513546

ehhh

trimming with like a #2 is as low as I'll go, but I definitely need to get on that mt2 train so I don't go lobstermode or blind anyone from the glare

>>37513613

plus cortisol levels, bp, lipids, thyroid, etc

>>37513621
>location

hey jerry, roadtrip time

Guess I gotta go to the gym
Fuuuuuck
Okay I can do this!
Nothing but arms today

>>37513730
what's your main 3 lifts looking like, you finally done cutting?

ever figure out what's wrong iwth your hip?

>>37513786
Solid contribution to the thread.

At least when the other trips shitpost they're funny, or otherwise entertaining.

>>37513809
That's some good bitching you're doing there
You should try learning how to filter trips

>>37513837
Filter this
>grabs dick

>>37513856
You're very mean

Tfw new PR in hotness of girls you can fuck

Finally found this bad chick that squats and deads, competes in powerlifting, has a thick ass, she's successful as fuck, loaded, whole family is loaded, got free gains from a 5 star restaurant her mom owns, made me a protein shake post workout like she's a wifey already

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>>37513802

programming's been absolute shit lately between cutting and school but I haven't really lost any strength

still 395-400 bench (3x365), pulled 585 earlier this week with pretty good speed so 605 should still be there, and my squat is still slowly coming back up

hip thing is probably just a strain, it's pretty much healed at this point

I just need to do stupid amounts of mobility work with ankle dorsiflexion, hamstrings, and hip flexors with a serious focus on the iliopsoas to unfuck my apt and buttwink

actually just murdered my legs earlier doing relatively high rep (4x10) high bar, a bit of leg press, and I threw in 4x8 hip thursts with 4pl8 for the fuck of it

now it feels like I got stabbed in the ass, my glutes are so sore

>>37513916

welp, unicorns exist

Daily reminder that JM did gay4pay.

>Daily reminder brought to you by my daily rage of being offcycle PCT instead of roiding.

>>37511723
Hey fit bro, you got an email? Just have a question for you

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>>37513621
Pic related

>>37513990
t. FBI

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> MK-677, day 8
> 6 egg sandwiches ED
> obvious reduction in bloat, see abs, still up 17 lbs though
> inject 600 mg Tren-E + 80 mg Tren-A last night, wake up with crazy boners, then 6" girth flaccid

Basically my cock was so thick it was turning me on. So much for 'Tren dick'. Anyway, I lose a lot of water/bloat, don't gain fat, and become heavier... is it possible to gain about 6 lbs of muscle [or organs/bones] in a week? Perhaps I have extreme 'GH sensitivity' and MK-677 is over-riding that.

Said I would never do this again, but going to inject another 900 mg Tren-E. Thinking about making an instagram entirely of delicious egg sandwiches so I have something to show the bitches.

>>37513500
> 6'4 maxed out on roids, 7-10% BF
> 100-105 kg

JJ watts is 6' 5, 289 lbs, supposedly natural.

>>37514331
This guy is 105kg of dry shreddedness though.

>>37514528
Its wierd seeing an American use KG

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What if I use clen to cut down BEFORE starting a test/tren cycle for optimal lean gains?
Does that sound dumb or is it ok? That's what I'm planning on doing for my second cycle.

>>37514600
That's fine, DNP or ECA would be better though. Clen sides can range from uncomfortable to horrific.

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>>37514600
Sounds like a good plan.

If your goal bf is in the single digits, you can add 200mg test to your clen cut. THEN add in trenbologne

I got drunk and put my fist through a window. Have some stitches on my hand. Should I just say fuck for the week or test myself after a few days?

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>>37514676
>>37514684
alright thx bros
dnp sounds dangerous imo and I don't know much about eca so I'll keep it simple and go for clen I guess.

>>37514701
You Chem'd yourself
If you're already on the pin as usual
If you're about to start wait till your hand heals up a bit

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>>37514748
>dnp sounds dangerous , so I'll keep it simple and go for clen

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>>37514781
lol I mean like at least I know what to expect with clen and I can't actually die

>>37514676
>uncomfortable to horrific.
Last time I tried clen it was horrific. Worst stims sides you could imagine. But the first few times were okay.

DNP @ 250mg is my shit now.

Clen is honestly fine guys, I don't get the hate for it. It's just an alternative.

>>37514770
Just a little test right now

I think I'll reassess on Monday. fml I was doing so well

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this prick blew my mind

reading Mentzer's work turned me onto to Arthur Jones. I had known the name but only associated him as "the machine guy"

Little did I know (until i started reading about his life) that Jones was very likely a man with a near genius level IQ, and was right about almost everything. At that point, i was unsurprised to find out the litany of literature on sports performance and physiology actually supports closer to Jones' principles than it does anything else.

Jones did not have a high regard for "strength and conditioning" coaches infesting football and the rest of the sporting world, and this was some 30 years before it was cool across the board. He regarded most of them as charlatans selling lies for money, and some of them as outright criminal who should be locked up for harmful negligence. Interesting, different day, same shit. The S&C field today is still full of charlatans and idiots.

Jones was not without his flaws of course, despite his low tolerance for bullshit and stupidity, he frequently refused to acknowledge the usefulness of anabolics.

He also once scared the shit out of arnold and threatened to knock him out, after which arnold took on a much more austrian gentleman demeanor around him. Jones doesn't tell this story himself, but its corroborated by people who worked with him. That incident was started by arnold yapping non stop and bragging during the length of a car ride - which i can totally see arnold doing especially in his heyday lmao.

>>37515190
>He also once scared the shit out of arnold and threatened to knock him out, after which arnold took on a much more austrian gentleman demeanor around him. Jones doesn't tell this story himself, but its corroborated by people who worked with him. That incident was started by arnold yapping non stop and bragging during the length of a car ride - which i can totally see arnold doing especially in his heyday lmao.

Arnold in "Pumping Iron" is topkek ego arnold

>>37515225

the best character in that film is still the gum chewing ginger guy who stole Mike Katz' shirt

>>37515286
That part was actually filmed post-production to help create a fictitious beef between both of them, to make the movie more entertaining

>>37515286

I love the Generation Iron ending where the elderly Katz starts talking about his shirt again

after diet break from PSMF (basically maintenance keto) I'm back into it.

250mg Test
250mg Tren
60mcg Clen
30mcg T3
Yohimbine when I can do a bit of cardio

Thinking about throwing 45-60mg of Epi in just because I've got it, that and the anti-e effect

Blood pressure was fine today even after that, gave blood last week so RBC should be fine anyway. This is why you do your cardio kids

Quick question.

I've been natty lifting for 4 years now and I've hit my peak.

I'm 6'7 245lbs and I look good but I want to ascend to the heavens and leave humanity behind.

Would you regulars recommend just starting with a cycle of test?

Given I've ran DNP multiple times upwards of 750mg with minimal side effects and my diet is in check.

Greatly appreciate any recommendations for a cycle.

>>37512697
bump

>tfw random people online now asking me for advice on dieting and lifting
>tfw random people automatically accusing me of roids
>tfw friends who lift messaging me telling me my pics are fucking sick and they want to be on my level

Feels good to have reached that point where this is now almost a daily occurrence. It was annoying before, but it's not people trying to tell me how to do shit now, it's people asking me what they need to do to look like me.

>>37515585

you are such a fucking liar lol

>>37515585
>>37515585
>>37515585

screencap them asking (black out names and details of course)

>>37515611
>>37515620
kek I was actually gonna add "tfw this post triggers the anons"
Should have done it, knew there would be some sour fucks lurking

>>37515676
>refuses to easily prove any of his claims
y-you guys are just sour!

>>37515676

Back up the claims then, show screencaps

>>37515700
>>37515709
Okay but here's the problem with your theory mate
I could literally grab any random screen shots of people doing similar stuff online and claim they were to me.
I could even go to message or comment generators and just fake the whole thing.
Providing "evidence" won't work because it's so easily forged and even if I do you'll still find something wrong with it.

>>37515720

oh shut the fuck up

just post it you fucking faggot

>>37515734
So you don't even deny that whatever I post could be totally false and that you will probably bitch about it anyway?
Are you the same person who said my arms were never over 15 inch so I measured them that day and found they're 16.5 cold?
You the same anon who said I'm small and then vanished after even MT admitted I have decent mass?

>>37515720

Jesus christ, why even post.

>>37515754
Because it gets you riled up and I find that amusing.

Plus I'm just killing time right now. I'm sure I'll vanish soon for another 24 hours and you can enjoy getting back to..... Oh yeah fucking nothing because the thread is dead

>>37515753

No, just an anon. I just found it hilarious that you went to the effort to post that, then went to the effort to post THAT. Fuck me. You're a proper tosser.

Is DMP still reliable?

>>37512149
what's up with that fag hair?

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>>37515720
That's the most victimised post I have ever seen. The fact that you think about how you can fake stuff like that makes you insecure as fuck and undermines everything you claim.

No hate though, I love my fraud drama makes my life a little less shitty

>>37515190
Some of this shit sounds pretty good. I've always been a proponent of rational thinking and the (robustly scientifically endorsed) idea that a healthy body encourages the mind.

But man:
>Mentzer's reasoning was simple: to build 10 pounds of muscle in a year, a total of 6000 extra calories needed to be ingested throughout the year, because one pound of muscle contains 600 calories.

This is just silly.

>>37511256
To deca or tren on my next bulk, that is the question, it is the question that ages back to the medieval times

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>>37515990

I dont lurk much anymore but does cyclefag check here anymore? If so pls check safemail cyclefag.

>>37515990
>>37516009
>inb4 muh progestin nature
>inb4 brick tells a bitch to stfu

>>37516009
You done both before? If so how did it compare to just high tren/high deca?

>>37516009

I'd only do it with Tren Ace and NPP personally. Fuck having that decanoate ester hanging around playing havoc.

>>37515720

oh god dude

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RIP Kimbo.

Steroids affect your heart guys, remember that.

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>>37516081
who the fuck

>>37513576
Chatted her up through tinder she's actually cool af, didn't let me suck her off, but I came in her ass :~}

>>37516102
>her

got some bad news for you

>>37516087
Kimbo slice, big spooky black man

>>37516139
>2016
>not nailing conservative gun wielding transGIRLS
>gf jelly neckbeard
>top kek

is there a point in lifting more than 7 days a week?

been lifting for years naturally, something i really enjoy

but being natty im not that big

i have this idea in my head that if i get really big and lean that i will get more attention from girls, i know the idea of lifting for girls is dumb, but im already busting my ass naturally, and if by simply adding steroids into my routine meant i gained 25lbs of mass and suddenly i stood out from the crowd and got more attention from girls, then why not?

cliffs: will being big get me extra attention from girls?

im average in looks and height

>>37516961
kill yourself

>>37517012
cringed

>>37517018
this

How much is the punishment for baking and distributing AAS in the UK?

My google results yield me mix results, most of the guys i find getting busted for AAS distribution mainly get busted for selling normal pharma.

>>37515562

Reddit/steroids

Free knowledge.

Naps wants 1k down payment to fill the wallet, fuck that... Anyone got some source within the EU (so jt doesn't cross borders) ? Eroids sucks

>>37517358
naps ships from moldova anyway so it would still have to pass through customs
check out reddit sst

Guys why is it that if I look in a mirror, I see definition and shit, but if I just look straight down at myself I think I look like shit?

Like I am sitting at my PC. If I look down at me I see a flabby ass piece of shit, but if I look in the mirror across from me I look way better. With no change in lighting or pose.

I'm assuming when people look at you they see what you see in the mirror? lol

>>37517370
maybe you're nearsighted

ba dum tss.

>>37517370
i have the same problem and yeah im pretty sure people see what you see in the mirror.

>tfw whenever im shirtless infront of a mirror i automatically flex non-stop thinking im fucking asthetic.
>tfw when you walk by a mirror unflexed and realize you look absolute shit

sucks desu

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>>37512601

Must've taken a long ass time to draw that shit.

>>37514331
> searching pinterest and tumblr for girls wet over JJ Watts for research purposes
> there's literally news articles about his autism, "tfw no gf"-esque

Assuming 20% BF, has a FFMI of 28.6. Can this nigga be natty?

>>37514528

Americans are evolved and use lbs/kg interchangeably, but prefer lbs/feet because a burger is a half-pound, a man's foot is a foot long, and American women require a man pretend to be at least 6 feet tall with 6 inches of penis. Requiring every unit be a power of 10 is autism.

>>37517777
>Assuming 20% BF, has a FFMI of 28.6. Can this nigga be natty?
not realistically, no

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>>37517777

Jerrbears^2. Fucked up the reply-to's:

>>37514528
>>37514589

How do you faggots cope with the fact that you'll never get your normal manly test level back after steroids? Just one cycle can leave you with tiny peanut balls and the test levels of a little girl.

>>37517892
except that's why i started. since i had test levels lower than the average 100 year old men

Opinions on this bulk/cutting cycle?

will run test-e for 12 weeks
500mg/ week, 250mg on mondays. 250mg on thursdays
week 1-8 caloric surplus
week 8-12 isocaloric/ low deficit + 25mcg T3 ed
Nolva for pct 40/40/20/20
Adex 0,5mg on hand if I feel like balooning too much

What Im wondering is if the T3 will kill all the gainz like in natty lifters or will the test let me keep what I build in week 1-8?

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>>37517892
>How do you faggots cope
With copious amounts of cock, how else?

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> Google 'cartoons now and then' looking for a particular picture
> overloaded with crude commentary on politics and society
> also a lot of man children crying about Cartoon Network

My head is full of fuck.

>>37517892

That's a myth. The millions of women who take birth control (ie steroids) can still have children later on.

On a shitload of Tren right now and my balls are about 30 cc's. Average would be 20 cc's. I don't believe it's swelling as they appear to swell to twice this volume at times. Went on because I had no Test. Went off for a month back in January, on Clomid+Anavar, and my natty Test was high.

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guys guys in two weeks imma be doing so much drugz it'll be insane

fuck yea

>>37513611
Who are you breh, never seen you around over here.

I called my reference, he said he put in a good word for me . Probably will hear the next week if i'am hired or not.

>>37513730
Actually this is true. kek. Steroids are making me paranoid sometimes. Normally i woudn't even care

>>37517892
>implying im not gonna keep superhuman test levels for the rest of my life to be alfa you can never be

>>37518053
What a qt, shame about the arm cancer

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>>37518053
>guys guys in two weeks imma be doing so much drugz
PEDs or rec drugs?
>>37518056
>Who are you breh
Been here for years, I am the ebay guy. We have talked many times, just never had a need for a name before.
>>37518056
>I called my reference
Before they called him I hope?

On an unrelated note, Thomas Maw is pissing me off with all this labor party leftist bullshit he keeps dropping randomly in his videos. Such a shame.

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>>37518118
>PEDs or rec drugs?
all kinds of drugs
literally

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>>37518149
Don't Zyzz mode breh

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>>37518183
ill survive no problemo

i have question tho, i'm taking some test and eq now, but i'll be away 10 days and might have problem taking roids with me, frontloading EQ (since long halflife) last day will be ok and not pin in 10 days? or bad idea?

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>>37518207
I would shoot double the amount of test and take some exemestane with me. 10 days is nothing really.
I can go weeks without test and just exemestane and still feel good.

>>37513008
I thought polyunsaturated fats were more healthful cuz they're more easily digestible ?

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>>37518207
Head over to steroidplot and figure something up

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>>37518293
>poly
More carbon bonds
>Mono
Less carbon bonds
>more easily digestible
Negative, it's harder to break apart the additional carbon bonds. Just watch the videos.

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I don't know why transdermals aren't more popular. It makes the dosing a bit hairy but it shouldn't be much of a problem. At least the crazies on the hair loss, trans, and PCOS boards experiment with it. Transdermal DHT to grow your dick/clit/beard and remove local fat (gyno). Tren/Trestalone for that pre-workout boost and to grow your dick/beard. Aromasin to grow your dick and remove local fat. Transdermal Zinc/Magnesium/etc for health as they're bitches to absorb in diet and exercise/alcohol/steroids/etc deplete them.

When I start peddling, I'll find a way to produce that 'Androgel'-esque topical gel. Maybe a DHT+Cialis lube for your plastic pussy and an Anavar lube for the gf. Topical finasteride/etc for the hair. Topical finasteride and potent estrogens+progestins to grow tits and double as birth control. It's all easily possible and it does actually work, studies consistently show there exists a local effect with most compounds.

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>>37518377
...when the girl grows her clit out

>>37518377
You're insanse.
Keep at it crazy science guy.

>>37518377
m8 everyone is afraid of finas.
There are people who stayed dead dick even after coming off.

>>37518377
theres a local source selling transdermals here
test gel, bold gel, mast gel
thinking of getting some of dat dere mast gel
got any proof of localized effects? high test face gains would be neat

>>37518435
>There are people who stayed dead dick even after coming off
fuk! wat! i was considering getting some. is dusta having the same issues?

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>>37518377
Tren base lube for plastic pussies

>>37518439
i dont think the effects are localised but i think the stuff that makes it absorb through the skin fucks the skin up after prolonged use. makes it go really thin and yucky coloured.

>>37518377
Fuck transdermals
Anavar lube would be so difficult to dose
Your girl getting jacked as fuck dildoing the fuck out of herself on the low

>>37518496
>forgetting girls cheat

>>37518511
Not if they want to live

Bout to come off tren
Idk what to do now
Winstrols wrecking my wrists but im gonna keep it a bit longer

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Since i introduced masteron(still don't know if it's real or not), my balls are fucking tiny raisin size. With test they never get so small. Is this normal? Shit is scary

>>37518118
You seem like a cool guy. Yeah, i did. Thanks

I'm going to blast tren and phenibut to the moon, if I don't turn my life around I'm going to end it

Love you

>>37517935

pls respond

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>>37518584
>You seem like a cool guy. Yeah, i did. Thanks
Hope you get the job. Don't be a wage cuck forever!

>>37517368
Yeah thanks, checked it out briefly, but i guess an english site isnt going to give me the answers i'm looking for... German might be better... Any German Brah help a fellow out?

>>37517935
>>37518596
No, this is a dumb cycle. You either bulk or cut.

Cut first to 9% bodyfat, after that you blast test for 14-16 weeks(500-750). If you eat clean and keep your fat low, you won't gain fat

>>37518633
Thanks
I hope so too. Do you have a current job? What is your field?

where do i get tren what the fuk im tired of natty

>>37518665
tren will flush out your naturally produced testosterone, so you need to take testosterone with it. it sounds like you got a lot of reading to do

Steroids are bad for your health.

>>37518703
but being natty is worth for your health!

>>37516825
You mean like twice a day? I do occasionally

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>>37518648
>Do you have a current job?
Sadly I had to recently rejoin the workforce after not having a real job for three years. Long story but one of my business partners fucked me and my most recent company fell apart.
Plan is to work for about six months (hopefully less) while I rebuild capital and liquidate all the assets from the old company.
>What is your field?
"Professionally" according to my resume I do IT/network operations. Really boring shit but it's easy and the pay is decent.
But ultimately I will do anything to make money and have had several weird businesses. I can't stand working for people especially when management is clearly less intelligent than me and often times I have had meetings with directors and such that I shit you not don't even know what I do for the company. I mean they have a general idea but they don't really understand my role, it's fucking pathetic.
Also corporate IT jobs are filled with brown nosing, beta, backstabbing pieces of shit. Think in the military everyone is pretty alpha and everyone works hard as a team. In corporate jobs for the most part it's just idiots trying to suck enough dick to get into management and then hopefully someone will come along and suck their dick. It's sad and I don't like being in an environment like that.
Man that was a long post.

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>tfw no gf to turn into sick beats
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGAZ4d1KMbM

>>37518377
Transdermal DHT from where? Never seen it available from Indian Pharma

>>37518456
Well if you have only widow peaks then i would say is just isnt worth your libido.

If you are very very bald and getting full hair would turn you into a slayer, then its worth it.

And yes, finas destroys your libido. Usually temporary, but sometimes permanent.

It kills the DHT in your body, the hormone responsible for boners (and also for hairloss)

Sup guys.
I've heard you should front load Test E at first to have better effects. Is it legit?

Also, second question.
If I wanna inject 500mg/week
and i've got Test 250, do I need to inject 2 full vials twice a week?

>>37518809
No idea about dusta btw, never heard of it.

>>37518588
Watch out for phenibut addiction, its like benzos in that withdrawal can literally fucking kill you. Even if it doesn't you're in for tremors, cold sweats, vomiting, teeth pain, full body aching and insomnia. Be careful bro.

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this woman is 21, holy shit

>>37518758
That suck man. I hope you get you shit together.

>Also corporate IT jobs are filled with brown nosing, beta, backstabbing pieces of shit.
fuck that shit. I don't wanna be a corporate slave my whole life. Ideally i want coach people with diets and training, but that shit won't pay as much as working in IT. A senior application manager can make up tot 5k gross each month. Ideally i want just to roid and sleep and living the boss life like JM. sm.h

>Think in the military everyone is pretty alpha
Ask Brick. the guy is crazy tho

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Just my two cents on the finasteride guys. I have been using it for years both on and off cycle and my dick always works even with really shitty PCT.

>>37518832
yes brah, 1 vial per session
pepper your angus

>>37518377

I've tried transdermal Trest, 0 effects unfortunately.

>>37518758
>That pic
Fucking kek
You post a lot of bullshit but this almost makes up for it

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>>37518859
>Ideally i want coach people with diets and training, but that shit won't pay as much as working in IT.
Just start a youtube channel and go from there. I say if you start now in three years you could be youtube ballin and quit your job.
>>37518876
Alb you are some kinda financial something right? Wanna talk about precious metals?
>>37518889
>You post a lot of GOAT stuff
Dawww thank's breh

>>37518836
i meant dutasteride.
my hair went a bit thin when i was going hardcore on the starving myself and fat loss but it came back when i ate well again.
dont have any hair loss issues now but i thought i might want to pre emptively do it if i start blasting tren heavily

How likely am I to die if I do little cardio?

I haven't done cardio in a few months, and I started blasting a couple weeks ago. I figured I really should start doing cardio again, so I went out and ran 1.2 miles. It took me ~10 minutes, and I had to walk 5 times. I'm attributing it mostly to the fact I'm 6kg heavier than the last time I ran, because I managed 1.2 miles in 8:25, with no stops.

What should I do? Switch to a different form of cardio?

>>37518832
No idiot its 250 per ml so 2ml per week
I dropped out in 4th fuckin grade how is it I can math better than you?
Let that sink in
You're dumber than someone with the education of a 9 year old

>>37511831
Are most steroids like this.? Do you just feel good all the time with all dem hormones

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>>37518907
It's not as easy as you state. You gotta have some kinda charisma, something to stand out. There is so many competitors. Everywhere on Social media, so many faggots. sm.h

>>37518696
my nuts are huge tho bro

>>37518938
huh? did not i say the same?

>>37518978
If literal nogains retards like blaha and genova can get a following, pretty sure someone who actually looks like they lift can...

>>37518907
>Bank worker
>Precious metals
Kek
This is what I'm talking about
Its like there's something scrambled in your head
You hear one thing and your mind comes up with something completely random
>Yeah, so I had this awesome omlet right
>Omlet? Let me tell you what i think about the jews

>>37518990
most people buy 10ml containers so he might have misunderstood that you meant 1ml when you said a vial

>>37518987
yeah but its not the size of your nuts. zero testosterone (no personal experience) is a fucked up experience.

>>37518993
That's because they stand out because their abnormalities. You can't be too normal. People follow them, because they actually make fun of them

>>37518907

In what regard?

>>37518990
You asked if you inject two full vials
They're 10 ml each
You want to inject 20ml a week? You fuckin moron
You inject one tenth of a vial twice a week
Please
Cut your fucking testicles out before you knock up some poor slut and birth a megatard

Srs question what do you guys tell your family about your steroid use if anything?

>>37518940
Not all, but tren and high test makes you feel very very good.
Everyone who is depressed should just take roids, its a cure (temporary that is, unless you blast and cruise forever).

If you come off its a hell though

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>>37518978
>It's not as easy as you state.
I hope I didn't make it sound easy. THREE years of multiple vids a week is a lot of work. Anyway I think it would work. There has never been a youtuber from here besides Scooby.
>>37518994
>Bank worker
I thought he was something a little higher up than a teller or some shit but perhaps I am mistaken.

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>>37519016
You think being a jacked up, somewhat well known shit poster with a big ego is normal?

>>37518940
> Do you just feel good all the time with all dem hormones

I dont

>>37519035
>Upped my protein
>Mass gainer 5000
>Swiss multivitamins

>>37519042
how is it that bitches like this can be so lean but not have seperation between their abs?

do they weigh like 70 fucking lbs and not exercise at all?

>>37519030
I meant 1 ml vials..
if there are 1 ml vials and it says test 250, i want to inject 1 vial twice a week, right?

>>37519042
Steamrollan is on YouTube

>>37518863
Did it give you your hair back?
Or just for preventive measures.

Well you are a lucky man then.

There are people who took it for 6 months, went off because the hair was back and didnt get a boner for the 10 years afterwards.

This doesnt happen to everyone, but because its so horrible one should really think carefully before taking finas.


Also i dont know if high test doses could fix it in case finas fucked you up.

>>37519035
you don't, unless the family member you're thinking about telling is HEAVILY into working out (like, you suspect he might have roided at one point)

otherwise you're just inviting stupidity

I don't even talk about lifting or eating properly with most of my family

>>37519049
Aww :(

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>>37519025
My gut is telling me stock market crash right before/right after Trump is elected and I am trying to buy up as much silver as possible. Just wanted your thoughts.
>>37519063
>how is it that bitches like this can be so lean but not have separation between their abs?
Genetics?
>>37519080
I don't know who that is sorry.
>>37519085
>Did it give you your hair back?
Fina+Minoxidil regrew the hair I lost. I no longer use Minoxidil, just the fina. 1mg/day on a cruise and 5m/day on a blast.

>>37519065
Those are called ampoules, and yes two a week is good. Soz for mad rage bro.
I blame crashed estro...

>>37519114
That bignig with the long ass dreadlocks

>>37519130
English ain't my native bro.

>>37519110
:c

>>37519042

I do financial analyst work, yeah. Think investment banking, not commercial banking.

>>37519114

Stock crash? Doubtful. Speculative, maybe. Silver is probably the safest one you can buy aside from foreign hard assets.

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>>37519254

stop

1-12 weeks: Test 500mg/week
2-12 weeks: Aromasin 12.5g/day
2 weeks after the last pin, Nolvadex: 40/40/20/20

Does this sound right?

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>>37519209
So you write reports on companies?
I just feel like there are not enough individual investors in today's markets. Then you have the potential international shitstorm when Trump wins and you also have big players like Soros buying up gold and silver. I just got a feelin that's all.

>>37519305
Buy spy at the crash, leverage the depression

>>37512016
>tfw have diagnosed thyroid condition and regularly abuse meds to lose weight
>still fat
:^)

>>37519297

you wont need that much AI. play it by eye.

>>37519305

there's plenty of individual investors and you also have to think about the forex market as well. There won't be some massive functional shift in the markets if trump became president. If anything you'll realize how little his relevance is with the market as president.

i'll eat my own shit if he becomes president though. he's already losing endorsements

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>>37519042
It's easier money. But i have seen enough youtubers way better looking than me with more charisma, and not making it.

>>37519047
Because, you know where we are? That's a persona of course

>>37519305

Nah, I work on a much bigger scale than that.

There's too many investors, which is why speculation runs wild and wrecks companies, causing unnatural fluctuations.

IMO trump will strengthen the economy. Actively running a country like a business works. In the grand scheme of everything, it won't mean a great deal anyway.

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>>37519323
>Buy spy at the crash, leverage the depression
Pretty much. Just gotta zig while everyone else is busy zaggin.
>>37519340
Trump is gonna crush it. Biggest victory in US history, mark my words.
>>37519367
>But i have seen enough youtubers way better looking than me with more charisma, and not making it.
Who cares if you are ugly, you just gotta be yourself. If you are that worried wear a mask, make it fun.

Yo /roids/ what are hr chances of getting busted after recieving a small delivery via mail from a domestic source,not USA. Im from eastern europe.

>>37519395
Kek he's not ugly he meant better physique wize
Plus he's too big for normies, they like shredded ottermode to men's physique kinda look
Not sure how his English is but that could be a barrier too

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>>37519395
I'am not ugly kek. I meant, physique-wise of course

>you just gotta be yourself
great meme. We all know this is false hope

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>>37519442
Alright let me put it this way. Think of Bostin. Barely puts out youtube vids but does crazy autistic shit in them when he does and people eat it up. He then gets this fan base to pay him for coaching and pre workouts and some of the worst clothing I have ever seen.
Now he gets to sit on his ass and drive around in nice cars and do whatever the fuck he wants.

>>37518859
hey dude.. you gave me some advice on a first cycle a couple of days ago.. i'm the dude that works in IT, actually not too far away.. we also have a presence in NL. in case it doesn't work out with your current application you could try it with our office

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>>37519489
This guys is also from the Netherlands. HE smokes me so hard it's not even funny anymore. jelly af

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWl4r8lWQwk1BRQhNugBYzQ

>Bostin
He will never get past 30-40, with the amount of shit he's currently using. kek

He also does g4p.

>>37519492
That's nice to hear. I respect this, thanks.

>>37519432
Domestic goes virtually undetected - unless you already have heat on your ass.

On the original Silkroad you could buy coke in kilos in the US - as long as the shipment was domestic.

>>37519489
uhhhhh nice body

>>37519529
I dont think i have heat, but these palpitations wont go away, fuck me man how do i relax, its been a few hours since i got it

>>37519559
Dude, relax, if you got your package there shouldn't be anything to worry about.

Honestly, police don't give a shit about recreational users, especially not concering steroids.

>>37518858
Better than depression and anxiety

Is 15 % bodyfat too high for a first cycle?

>>37519588
Thank you bro, may it be as you say, i hope you will get many gains and big fortune for being so kind

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>>37519518
>This guys is also from the Netherlands. HE smokes me so hard it's not even funny anymore. jelly af
Mirin his sexy voice.
Anyway you seem too concerned with what other people are doing instead of what YOU could be doing.
Every business I have started has been in a heavily competitive field. The only reason to look at other people/businesses in that field is to either copy them or to see something innovative that they are missing/not doing and then go do it. Being a youtuber is not rocket surgery. You just get a nice camera and some editing software and then shitpost all over youtube. Keep it up and make it funny or make it informative or both. In a few years you will have lots of subs who want to pay you for coaching.
Point is if you wanna be a self employed trainer you gotta get your name out there. Write articles, make videos, do charity work, something that will get people interested in you.

>>37519340
>you wont need that much AI. play it by eye.
can you elaborate?
and other than that, does it look fine?

>>37519663
Thanks, but I'm ending it soon.

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>>37519668
Yeah i'am. Hard to compete with imo.

You're right tho, you gotta be strategic about it. Must think about it. First i have to have a stable income, with a regular job

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>>37519814
>First i have to have a stable income, with a regular job
Yes for sure. Just make sure you save something.

>>37519689
you have to adjust your ai dose by how you feel, everyone needs different amounts
other than that it looks fine, might want to add in an oral kickstart if you want the most out of the cycle
id recommend tbol cus im scared of dbol but most ppl do dbol

Do you need anything else besides Nolvadex for PCT for a first cycle with only one subtance

Sup nerds

>>37519976
>you have to adjust your ai dose by how you feel, everyone needs different amounts
How should you feel? I mean, how do you determine if you need it or not?

>>37519979
probably not.