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>>37410090
Anyone ever deal with gallbladder attacks? Apparently can come about from taking estrogen medication.

>fuckin drank a cup of milk and doubled over in pain and past few months keep getting intense pain after eating.

>>37410090

previous: >>37386436

OP fucking useless

what the fuck is wrong with my e2, on 600 test 400 deca with no AI my e2 was a little out of range, slightly, but no sides at all, felt perfect.
crazy libido and energy 10/10
Now I switched to 450 test/tren/deca and I got serious gyno symptoms, I am taking 1.25 letro ed now for 2 weeks at least, no low estro sides yet. feeling ok, not as great as before, but 7/10
Was this just the huge increase from test that tren freed up from shbg or what is happening here?

Alright, nuke estrogen it is.
Or at least start slowing upping the AI

>>37410133
>gallbladder attacks
I didn't even know that was a thing that could happen.

>>37410189
>jump on /fit/
>search fraud
>no thread so make new one
Fuck off your useless if you were there and didn't make a new one before it killed itself

Thanks for linking though you cunt

>>37410205
Talking to a doctor now, apparently i got galstones. I thought i just swallowed food weird or something in my hurry to bulk.

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I asked this in the previous thread but it got closed so yeah.

Is it normal to feel like a super sayin on 250mg test E?

I went for a 2 hour gym session today and felt like i could for another hour.

My sessions are very intense and im usually done after 1 hour.

>>37410261
What were the symptoms?

Are tren ace and npp a 1:1? If I have been on 500 mg tren a wk to bulk would I jump on 500 mg npp or is tren a way stronger compound?

>>37410321
I wouldn't think it would be that noticeable, but you might have been low-t before like the anon in the other thread said.

>>37410261
>galstones
Those I've at least heard of.
IIRC the treatment involves sci-fi esque sonic pulses to break up the stones.

Twice now when I've pinned, it's bled. It's not major, but it wells up quickly. Happened last time, and this time I pinned, on either side of my VG. Should I be worried? Usually there's not even a speck of blood.

Also, what do you guys usually do when you get to the end of a vial? I've got less than a ml left in mine. How do I get the rest out?

>>37410498
>Usually there's not even a speck of blood.
Not a real problem. There will usually be a tiny bit of blood, no more then a drop usually.

>>37410498
>How do I get the rest out?
very carefully

>>37410600
This. It often involves trying to get the pin in at a funny angle.

>>37410444
Back in the good old days they just opened you up and took them out.

>>37410644
Yeah, I was having a mare trying to get todays ml out. Pulled air three times doing it.

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Compression shirts

Nipples shine right through the white one

Give a fuck or no in the gym.

Because fuck wearing something underneath it or over it

http://www.aliexpress.com/item-img/New-New-Men-Compression-Base-Layer-Under-Top-Tight-Short-Sleeve-T-Shirt-Sport-Wear-Hot/32374571904.html#

>>37410321
>>37409935
>>37409959
>>250mg is still definitely supraphysiological
>What does that mean.
>Isnt 250mg 2x of average natty levels? i heard natty levels are like 100-150.
https://www.reddit.com/r/steroids/comments/2j7bi7/what_are_your_testosterone_levels_

>>37410674
Aw, the good old days, when anesthetic was a piece of wood or leather to bite down on.
>>37410685
Yeah, that'll happen. If it's something cheap like test, I usually give up before getting that last little bit.

>>37410674
Still do this if it's bad enough
Ex had this because she had too many that where too big or some shit

dead thread
dead balls

Hey guys natty dyel here. Is there any way to spot a fraud in the gym? Fatigue, swole but weak, hyped? Is there something I should look for? I just want to know so my gymbros can stop saying everyone is on gear

>>37411461
look at their porn history for trannies.
#1 way to spot a fraud.

>>37411486
is there a certain critera?
do the ones of girls getting railed by trannies count?

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>>37411461
Your gymbro's are weak and pathetic
If they have to call everyone else frauds to make themselves feel better they're the ones with a problem. Not the steroid users

>>37411461
Other then roid acne, no.
If they're lean at 100kg+ there's a good chance they roid.
>>37411486
Never got the tranny appeal. Maybe my roids were underdosed.

>>37410192

it's not estrogen, it's prolactin from 2x 19nors.

stop taking the ai, and get some caber/prami

>>37411529
Alright so if I see a big guy with lots of bacne, he's probably on roids?
What about big guys in their 15-20s with acne? Roids or puberty?

Anyone got a better way to target traps than doing shrugs?
I've currently been doing pulldowns behind my neck to try target them a bit better.
They just don't look big enough unless I'm tensing them

Starting to develop lats really well though

>>37411461

why would they be swole but weak lmao, gear are performance enhancing drugs, not synthol.

look for people with huge traps/shoulders/veins/strong. first 3 are the most tell tale signs.

>>37411624

get a big ohp, worked for me. at the end of your sets, hold the weight up for a while

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>>37410498

passed through a vein large enough and/or close enough to the surface that it bled through

airlocking reduces the chances of seeing blood when it's approximate to the depot, but the only thing that works for subsurface ones is z-tracking which is... a little difficult with vg

>>37410498
>>37410600
>>37410644
>>37410685
>How do I get the rest out?

overpressurize the vial slightly, flip it, have the needle angled shallowly just barely through the stopper, once it's through lean it so the bevel is pretty much completely flat against the back of the stopper with the tip touching the neck of the vial

>>37411624

how many times do I have to tell you faggots

snatch grip deads and kroc rows, weight and intensity so you want to puke

>>37411624
>taking steroids
>can't even get big traps
kek
>>37411615
my brother is a 25 year old natty with bacne, i'm younger with less bacne( not natty ).

>>37411615
Maybe. To be honest, everyone has a different level of natty protential and reacts to PEDs differently.

The big guy with bacne might just need to invest in a loufa. The dyel guy in the corner doing 1pl8 squats might be on 2 grams of gear.

>>37411663
>overpressurize the vial slightly, flip it, have the needle angled shallowly just barely through the stopper, once it's through lean it so the bevel is pretty much completely flat against the back of the stopper with the tip touching the neck of the vial
Thanks m8. That's a much more elegant way of putting it then I could.

>>37411301
>dead balls
That was a low blow.

>>37410197
Always nuke it. Never let it get high. If you crash your estrogen just bump some test p and you'll feel better in a few hours

touchy subject. I approached a obv roidy dude today and asked him about getting shit and he just played dumb like he didnt know what i was talking about. like wtf, cant help help a fellow bro get swole???

>>37411850
lmao what did you expect

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I'd like to use to clen to cut, but I have 0 info. Is there an approved dosage guide / combo to run? Also is there a version that isn't oral, you guys all say oral blows out your liver / kidneys. Order online or drive to the horseracing track down the street

>>37411850
Not everyone's going to be comfortable talking about illegal drugs, dude. You're already here on the internet, just source them through the tubes and stop asking randoms to incriminate themselves.

>>37411871
don't do clen. do dnp

>>37411862
he just kept pausing then saying idk what youre talking about...lmao

>>37411871
Don't.
It's not worth putting your heart under the stress that's needed to burn maybe 100 calories a day extra.

>>37411885
maybe he didn't want to get arrested by some dyel undercover cop

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>>37411661
Hmm I've been working on OHP lately so maybe I'll see some improvement over time

>>37411663
>kroc rows
>want to puke
Oh that's what I'm doing wrong
I only do for 15

>>37411704
Done goofed son

>>37411871
Do dnp for 2 weeks with strict dieting and you'll see massive improvement

Just got out of rehab this morning. 28 days clean from heroin and gear. Just put 3ccs of test p, e, and tren in my ass, hoping to have a functional dick sooner than later. How is everyone?

>>37411987
Congrats m8.
How was rehab on the gains?

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>>37411952
>Oh that's what I'm doing wrong
>I only do for 15

stop using bitchweight

krocs are the finisher for a back workout after deads and weighted chins, I'm already sick of that shit and want to go home by the time it comes around to doing 2 sets of 12-15 with just chalk, and then the gutcheck with the heaviest you can go with straps for ~20

bunch of shit changes recruitment, 90 vs 45 back angle, pulling towards the shoulder or the lat, etc

>>37411987

you still with the enabler gf?

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Alright. all aboard the swole train.

350mg test e

500mg mast e

well see how my hairline likes mast. Pinning for this second cycle wasnt nearly as bad this first time as it was last time.

>>37412019
Did a lot of body weight stuff and ate a ton so it wasn't too savage. Honestly put on a bit of a gut from low t and eating a lot.

>>37412041
Didn't tell her I got out yet. I moved into a halfway about an hour north of my old spot and don't plan on letting her know where I'm at. Plus I hooked up with 2 junky qts in rehab who are both moving into halfway near me.

My lifts are embarrassingly low though. Planned cycle;
500mg/wk test p wk 1-5.
500mg/wk test e wk 1-forever
500mg/wk tren e wk1-a long time
Want to use dnp to nuke this fat I put on but the Florida summers are hot as fuck.

>>37412080
>350mg test e
>500mg mast e
>cycle
I guess that it is a cycle that never ends?

>>37412102

I have much different goals than most on here. I need strength and endurance increased while keeping weight gain to a minimum while not destroying my cardio.

>>37412204
why not winny and eq like the most basic athlete stuff

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>>37411987
Nice m8, I actually noticed your absence a while ago and was pretty worried. Good to hear you're alive, well and clean.

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>>37412230

Im a shitty MMA fighter so extra joint issues are not something i want to play with. The EQ sounds promising but living where im at in AK we dont have a place to be able to donate blood for the increased RBC. I dont want to like...bleed myself.

>>37410370
Anyone?

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>need new dress clothes
>still a 30 pant 25lbs up

I look like a cartoon charercter

>>37412096
>Want to use dnp to nuke this fat I put on but the Florida summers are hot as fuck.
I'd skip it. No use killing yourself with dnp, if you just got out of rehab. lol

>>37412204
Haven't seen you in a while. How was Thailand?

>>37412435
Post pic

I've never seen you with gains

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>>37412429

apples and potatoes

>>37412435

jesus christ jerry, I thought I was fucked with 31" or 32" by 30" at 6'

actually managed to do some bitchweight 245 3x12 without my hip freaking out yesterday, starting that slow painful crawl back up to actual working weight

can't wait to destroy even more of my jeans and shorts

>>37412475

you wouldn't be able to handle the sight

>>37410090
Can I just blast tren and eat lowfat diet to cut down

I went full no lift natty for a year and got fat :(

>>37412429
I'm not entirely sure what you're asking.
Tren is the most andrgenic compond, iirc.

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>>37412475
new pic wouldnt change anything ;)

>>37412495
im 30 by 32
theryre all slim fit
and those dont even come close to fitting, rough time

Oh nice, getting back up there
I tried squatting but my knee is still not up to it

>>37412495
>you wouldn't be able to handle the sight
I don't think I could handle it. Jerry's always been a dyel neet in my mind's eye. Seeing him with gains would shatter my fragile perception of the world.

>>37412499
I'd probably cut before jumping back on.

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>>37412465


It was not as good as id have hoped. The training camp had kind of gone downhill and i had some disagreements over the lazyness of the thai trainers.

They pretty much changed who they were catering to. They were working more on training newbie foreigners instead of actual fighters and i wasnt thrilled about it. Unfortunately i had paid all up front expecting it to be similar to the same place 2 years ago.
Whatevs though. Shit happens. Came back to the US, had a fight, been taking care of my baby and enjoying a nice relaxing break from training. Hitting it hard again and looking forward to this cycle.

I was super bummed out because i couldnt view or post in 4chan from thailand and tried to get around it but wasnt able to. The gear there is so cheap and pharma grade, it was AWESOME.

I heard that something weird happened to JJ? Fatlifts got punched? did everything go to shit as soon as i left?

Is Chem still alive? For that matter, Did the coach guy ever get out of the hospital from some sort of nasty car accident?

>>37412573
>I heard that something weird happened to JJ?
Iirc, his town was hit with major flooding, and he couldn't post stuff out for a bit.
>Is Chem still alive?
Last I heard he was doing work release stuff in prison.

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>>37412499

less gear, less cals, more poison, more cardio

>>37412531

>slim fit
>absolutelyharam.jpg

you seen this purple panda nigger offering humatropin for <$2/iu?

if that shit's legit I'm gonna end up spending like $4k to cruise half a year on 4iu and blast for half with 8iu, add some tb/bpc for the problem children and not have to worry about a goddamn thing

>>37412247
Missed you too bb.

>>37412465
Probably right. Feels weird just having test in my body again.

>>37412277
tfw runnin eq for past 4 months, haven't donated blood since november.
maybe i should do that soon

I need Adrol to look big.

>>37412777
It's going to come out like maple syrup. lol

Ive done test + tren cycle which worked pretty dam good. Now looking towards dbol Ive read the reddit wiki and it says 60mg ED? seems abit excessive to me.

>>37412847
I'd probably start with 25-30. I loved running 50 but I started getting kidney pain a few weeks in.

>>37412531
i hear a lot of people saying you should actually take jeans to get them altered....any of ya'll doing that? In reality, I would need like a size 31x33 but they don't fuckin exist at stores...i hate buying clothes online.

>>37412495
>>37412951
The fuck are these sizes?
I only know what's on the labels at the store
30-32-34 etc

The heck is 32x30

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>>37412951

lmgtfy.com/?q=weightlifter+jeans

>>37412977

waist x inseam, you filthy hobbit

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>>37413000


LMFAO. What kind of C.H.U.D. doesnt know what an inseam is. bahahahahahahahah

>>37412951
That's expensive though

>>37412676
Damn what that's good
Do it

>>37412977
That would be 32 waist by 30pants

>>37413000
Oh
Yeah nah clothes definitely don't have that shit on them here
Otherwise I wouldn't even bother looking at waist size
I'd just buy the right inseam size then have the waist tapered in

>>37412977
So short u don't have an inseam damn

>>37412676
Mail me for a source(not me) for greytops @1.5 USD per iu depending on where you live. They've been tested on a few athletes at Uhealth and it gave them close to pharma blood result. They used 10ius a day. I can get more specific when I'm off my phone if interested.

>>37413112
Kek
It's just something I've never considered

I buy pants that are like 32-34 so they fit my legs
Then wear a belt and roll the end up a bit
Whilst bitching that I need to get a tailor

>>37412495
>tfw 36x34

kill me

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>>37413096
>>37413168

welp

looks like I need to text someone about picking up doorman/security shifts

also

>10iu ed

how the fuck did they stand that without feeling like cripples from the sides

>>37413183

by "a bit" do you mean "roll them in half"?

Outside of DNP, what is the best cutting drug and/or stack??

>>37413271
By a bit I mean I roll my size 34 slim jeans about 3 inches up
Fold the bottom up inside

>>37413183
>calls himself thin
>calls himself short
>pants are both wider and longer

>>37413188
Fatty

>>37413349

just do intermittent fasting man, it makes cutting so much more bearable... only weak cunts need drugs to cut.

>>37413395
I-I don't know what to say
What d-did I do wro-wrong? :'^(

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>>37413395
>>calls himself thin
>>calls himself short
>>pants are both wider and longer

ikr

I'm half a foot taller, 20-30lbs more muscle, and I wear 32x30s easily

>Fatty

either that or he's shaped like a rectangle

>>37413437
You're not thin or short with those dimensions lol

Mg confirmed Fl

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>>37413438
I suppose I've never posted a pic of my legs
It's a bit hard to take pics of your whole body with a phone
Plus I suck at posing so I look small as fuck in every pic
Had to measure my arms the other day because anon didn't believe how big they are. They said I could have gone over 15
Tfw sitting on 16.5 inches cold

My legs are definitely legs of a fatty though
100%
Calves are big without much fat
But my quads are fatty and the rectus famoris on each side is unproportionally big

>>37413497
They said I couldn't have**

Fuck you for changing that iPhone

>>37413492
>mg confirmed for FL
Pls no
I'm gonna have to post pics this afternoon to shut you guys up
I'm not square I swear
Just fatty

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>watching Archer
>binge watching s3 to s7
>take break to do cardio
>suddenly realize I have heaps in common
>list of similarities gets disturbingly long
>many awkward similarities too
Weird stuff

>>37413509
>Coach just realized the studio that makes Archer copied his personality
>Coach just realized his personality is a fucked up joke

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>>37413509

god damn that is one gnarly fucking scar

that little pause then the delayed laugh shit is eerily close to something I did without even thinking about it until I started watching the show

>>37413112
Lmao

>>37413551
A joke as in haha it makes for great entertainment? Or as in a pathetic excuse for a personality?

>>37413597
Not nearly disfigured enough to break my boner.

Weird stuff

Just checked my blood pressure
149/81
J U S T

How do you guys lower your blood pressure on cycle? I just bought some coq10 and gonna hit cardio like a madman.. Fuck me brehs..

Does bleeding yourself work? I might jab a syringe in my vein and just try to get as much as i can out.. Any one have experience with this?

what did yall cycle for your second cycle?

>>37413679
It's a pretty common precedure

>>37413664
As in it makes for great entertainment
But then again the jokes often revolve around archer being a shitty person....
Guess it depends if you do the same shit he does, or if you just have the same personality

>>37413694
Test and npp

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>>37413112
>>37413628

savage, uncharacteristic, and wildly underappreciated

>>37413664

oh don't get it twisted, that wouldn't even be a speedbump for my cheese wheel of thunder

>>37413679

for a sec I thought you were mg and was gonna say something mean

retake with a properly sized cuff, no caffeine/nicotine/etc, no physical activity for an hour, seated for 15-30mins before taking a reading

that'll knock 10-15 systolic off at least, other than that cardio and eat less shitty food

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>>37413755
I roast people for laughs but all around I'd say I'm doing pretty good. I even texted my mother today.

>>37411883
>>37411899
>>37411952
Best place to get quality dnp?

>>37413832
Eh doesn't sound horrible at all
But then again insults are the normal language here so I dunno how it is for you guys

>>37413958
You assuming we all live in the same country?

>>37413349
EC for long term,
clen in the short term with ketotifen to upregulate b2 receptors after 2 weeks and T3 at low-high dosages depending on anabolic use.

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>>37414288

I never had any luck with clen at all. It gave me the shakes and made me feel like shit, but it wasnt a wonder drug by any means. Ran it for 2-3 weeks and was losing as much as i could on my own wth diet and exercise. The juice was not worth the squeeze. At least not for me.


Dnp however. Holy fuck balls. It makes you sweat for like an hour peeling an orange, you feel like death after a cocaine, booze, and hooker binge but ill be goddamned if that isnt the best fucking thing out there for fat loss.


The second time i did it i got some fucked up sides because i didnt run benadryl. Some creeps that lurk here probably saved the pics. that rash was no bueno

>>37414144
US, California if possible.

Don't know anything about roids and I'd love some help

What exactly is it? Does it come in pills because I would never fucking stick a needle in my arm every day. Also what are the dangers? I heard it shrinks your dick and balls, gives you acne, and you grow breasts or some shit. Also where tf do I buy it?

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>>37415206

Use google. Read everything you can on this subject for like a year. then MAYBE try it.

I started out not wanting to pin so i used SARMs and anavar.

Did a cycle of test at 350-375mg a week total in two injections. I decided to go the injection route because prohormones and such are hard on the liver.

Not gonna lie, pinning was difficult to do at first and i would get queasy and dread the pin days. Like killing things :P it gets easier.


steroids can shutdown your natural testosterone and cause yuor nuts to shrink. you know the saying...if you dont use it...you lose it? There are ways around this and its not that hard.

You really just need to research and lurk here and forums. dont be in a hurry because if youre like most of these retards in here hanging out (including me) you are dumb. dont be in a hurry to fuck your shit up and read read read.

>TLDR Research and lurk before even thinking about roiding. Dont be a pussy and pin to win.

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>>37415206

>tfw boxcar isn't responding to email

>>37415206
r/steroids.

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>https://youtu.be/dFAhMVjpC-c

so is rich piana broke?

the nigga always has used things like cars, and now this, after being "robbed" he's wearing a macarthur park swap meet watch with a missing fake diamond

one episode he had all his cars and none of them worked....and none were new

>>37416036
Nah no way is he broke.

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>>37410090
Well, it's time to join you folks. I'm type one diabetic and after over two years of consistent training (3-5 days a week) and major vigilance in my diet I've made barely any gains. Simply unacceptable gains.

All the research I've done (many, many hours) seems to conclude that I'm not going to get a lot done because type one diabetes really fucks with gaining significant muscle mass. Add that on top of somewhat low test (400 and change, not enough to be prescribed anything) and it seems like a lost cause without steroids.

Have a source ready and I'm about to order my first cycle. Simple 250 Test E E3D for 12 weeks. Wish me luck friendos

>>37416057

then why does he wear that $20 watch?

>>37416057

also, wtf doesn't his house have any furniture?

>>37416093
lol are you a 100% sure its because of your diabetis?
You know, there are millions of DYEL's that train for years and didnt learn to push themselves harder, thinking the training they do is "intense" and hard.

Just saying man, there are skellys in my gym who gained 2 lbs in 1 year and they blame it on their diet xD

>>37416162
hes balls deep into the Zen thing
he doesnt need clutter in his life

>>37416036
depends how you define broke

he has colossal debts but manages to service the repayments from his rental income (he lucked out a bit on the property market)

basically he lives on debt but manages it fairly wisely. its not for me but you can maintain a wealthy lifestyle this way if you don't mind owing everyone money.

and half of it is just maintaining an image - rented cars etc.

>>37416199
He still has enough cash for roids etc.

Do you think he home brews? Maybe a little gay for pay on the side?

>>37416206
rumour has it that he did it in the past, but no real evidence. wouldnt suprise me. "whatever it takes" right?

he has a decent cashflow from youtube, expos, his product line, ads etc. which enables him to take on tons of debt and service the repayments

he is definately not wealthy. probably milions in the red. but it is what it is. not hating on him.

>>37416206

Or, and hear me out, he owns a brand almost entirely himself?

>>37416193
>hes balls deep into the Zen thing
>he doesnt need clutter in his life
10/10 but I am not into jokes
>>37416199
>and half of it is just maintaining an image - rented cars etc.
yeah but like old used cars....probably rented from shady underworld figures, like they're not like conor mcgregor rented cars or NFL rookie 4th round draft pick rented cars
>he has colossal debts but manages to service the repayments from his rental income (he lucked out a bit on the property market)
any proof of this?
"As far as my financial status I have 9 rental properties in Texas I was very lucky at the peak of the market I pulled 80% of my equity out of my current house and bought in Texas the houses in Texas have continued to go up. The house I am in now is in foreclosure because its my choice to not keep since I owe 920,000 and its only worth 640,000 makes no sense and I dont see the market going up any time soon. This income supports me 100% but I still train people to keep busy I train 6-7 people a day 6 days a week and charge $120 an hour. 13-14 grand a month then also have an endorsement contract with Mutant pays me 4 grand a month. My T-shirt company makes a little money still working on it. Just funded a documentary movie which Im also in called The Fighter, bodybuilder and ex-con. Its already filmed and being edited right now. My acting career I did 38 national commercials principle parts with residuals made between 12 and 65 grand on each commercial this was 10-15 years ago when they played the commercials for 6 months to 2 years now they play for a couple weeks make between 2 and 12 grand. I still get checks in the mail from 8 sit-coms and 3 movies."

Anyways 9 rental properties in texas...but no mention of managing them? or who manages them? like you gotta pay someone for that....also.....foreclosure? wouldn't the bank go after the texas properties or any other assets he has like vehicles?

>>37416206
>He still has enough cash for roids etc.

does he though? he didn't finish his 9 weeks, he only did 8....?

>>37416222
what's his overhead though? like he's gotta pay the supplement company

I would, and I'm just going out on a limb here

I would assume his main income is dealing drugs

>>37416224
pretty much corroborates what i said. he is mortgaged up to his eyeballs. nothing wrong with that if you can handle the risk. he makes a good amount from all his business activities and knows how to market himself well. it's just that instead of saving that income, he uses it to take on debt.

it's not the first time one of his houses was foreclosed either. you will meet people like this in business and in life - people who live and thrive off debt. it requires a certain attitude but you can be very successful in life by just borrowing money and shifting your debt around.

if it all falls apart, just go bankrupt and live off the money you siphoned off and hid away. right babe?

>>37416239
>nothing wrong with that if you can handle the risk
yeah to an extent, I mean....his credit we can assume may be complete shit so...he's paying loads of money on interest which is what poor people with poor credit do...

I get what you are saying though, he's staying above water which is fine as long as you can

>right babe?
speaking of, his wife.....not as ugly as I once though, although her fake tits look jacked up, thought she was more of a european hag looking one

If he had money though, why does he wear that POS cheap ass fake looking watch?

Like he does what all poor niggers do, wear their gucci belt over their t-shirt....

a belt and wallet are the cheapest things a dude can get from gucci, he spends like the people I personally know can't afford gucci and use their credit card to buy gucci when on vacation

>>37410133
totally doesn't have anything to do with fucking fat in the milk

it's estrogen. government wants to poison us all

>>37416266
the piano man is literally the antithesis of good taste. everything he possesses has to be the gaudiest loudest load of tacky shit there is.

morning frauds.

>>37413168
Hooking anons up with this sauce?

So I have been getting hot flashes just about every other night. I googled it and said something might wrong with my hormones or something. I thought i would ask here

>>37416290
I respect him for the fact he's talking about roids, and honestly, compared to all the other lying fuckers out there filling teenage kids heads up with bullshit, I hope Rich gets all that he can

And I assume him talking about gas means the big fitness companies absolutely hate him

>>37416341
Thanks for all that information.

>>37410240
*you're :)

Any tips on extremely low calories while running DNP (500mg)? I basically cannot go under 900 spread throughout the day (which winds up being only 200 cals or so from carbs because I need my protein), or else I will literally not have the energy to do anything but lie in bed with my eyes closed.

It seems every few hours, I NEED to have 25 cals of vegetables along with salt and 25 calories of fruit, or I will literally not be able to move. I tried to just deal with it, but I can't even use my phone lying in bed, since I can't move at all.

I also tried just ignoring it for the last few hours of the day and then trying to fall asleep, but I just laid down with my eyes closed for literally 4 hours, after having been awake for 16 hours, and could not fall asleep because the hunger and shitty feeling was so powerful. I now ate 70 cals of cabbage and 30 cals of pineapple and feel basically 100% normal, like I'm not even on dnp.

I think the problem is hypoglycemia. Is there a way to lessen/eliminate this side effect without eating carbs? I want to make this cut more "extreme", but it is literally not physically possible like this. I'm losing slightly over 5 lbs a week right now, but I only have 6 more days worth of DNP caps left and want to make the most of it.

Once again will power is not the fucking issue, it is the physical effect that not eating carbs has on my body.

>>37416341
100mg dbol before bed should fix it

>>37416361
also on 200 test and 400 tren

>>37416350
Your right sorry.

Natty 28 year old

5'8, 192

Whe I go to sleep I wake up hot as shit just to the point of cold sweats has been happening for a while now. I'm gunna see a doc about it but when I googled hot flashes men. It said it was andropause. I wanted to see other people's thoughts on it seeing as this general discus hormones.

Also I know I'm fat as shit. I "bulked"up but stopped working.

>>37416222
Spoiler it's not technically his company. Bostin Loyd or lobliner tore apart piano man and one of the things they pointed out is that rich doesn't own 5% he's just someone they sponsored. He got rich by managing his money. And when he blew it going with old luxury goods. Bentley for example depreciates like crazy. I'm telling you rich got his Bentley for 50k.


None of this really makes rich any less impressive. He's literally making a living off his physique.

>>37416361
i maintained 500-100 a day. not gonna lie it was pretty hellish but it is do-able

i drank a lot of diet coke, fucking gallons, had to start mixing in the decaff diet coke it was that bad. some of the other things i used to keep my stomach full were sugar free jelly, sugar free drinks, vegetables, that carb-free pasta shit.

apart from that, just keep yourself busy playing video games or whatever. resist the temptation to just daydream about food.

>>37416361
Must be nice to be neet

>>37416373
>I'm telling you rich got his Bentley for 50k.
no shit, it's older than his wife

you got a link for the first part?

>>37416382
how did you even get enough protein to spare lbm in 500 calories?

also my protein gets me to around 700-750 depending on how i get it, and even that diet shit has calories which adds up to my 900 or so total every day.

been cruising on 200mg test weekly, only ever ran test and EQ before.

yesterday i started on 50mg tren ace EOD.

when can i expect the raping and pillaging to start? is my gf gonna notice?

>>37416413
i didn't get enough protein by all accounts.

don't ask me how, and yes this is purely fucking anecdotal, but i fucking gained strength over my 3 week DNP cycle. it was crazy. and i wasn't running test or anything.

>>37416413
>>37416424
oh and by the way, i was swimming in the morning on my off days, so that brought my TDEE down a fair bit. swimming was a great way to do cardio on DNP i found because the water just wicks the heat away. make sure you leave a big jug of ice water poolside though.

>>37416414
how serious do you /fraud/ guys get with girls?

like do you live with them? do you trust them?

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>>37416397
https://youtu.be/eLWYdQ07fBU

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>>37416479
arigato

>>37416477
Some are married, some in long term relationships some cheat some dont, others single and some with various fwb.

Pretty standard

>>37416477
i lucked out really, my gf is a unicorn

8/10, traditional values, likes to go to the gym, no drama, cooks for me etc. can't complain at all especially since i was fucking depressed and lonely for 4 years.

she is a bit anti-drugs though, and is completely unaware that i inject my ass with bathtub chemicals brewed in council houses. thinking of asking her to move in but im really not sure how i can hide it anymore.

>>37416382

Currently where I'm at. Mostly protein but also incidental fats; my refeeds turn into keto style refeeds (big dark chocolate cheesecakes, bacon/chicken/avocado ommelettes) with fuck all carbs. This is on 250mg Test and 250mg Tren along with 30mg T3, though, so refeeds are only for sanity.

>>37416496
good luck man. Got any gym friends that know about you pinning?

>>37416495
>>37416496

yeah I meant more along the lines of what happens if she gets drunk and angry and you gotta bob deniro in heat walk away from your stash

I used to be married and had to flush my mary jane a few times because she'd start getting stupid and I knew the chances of me having to call the cops were high

she was mexican so the last thing I need is her calling the cops and lying

>>37416592
oh right

yeah wouldn't happen with her. i guess the point here is to try and find a girl that isn't crazy, but im not under any illusions about how rare those are. my girl wouldn't throw my stash away or anything but i just don't want the fucking drama.

at 500mg test e ew w1-12
dianabol 40mg ed w1-4
nolvadex 40mg ed w 14-15, 20mg w 16-17

would I need an AI besides this, arimidex 0,5 eod or something?

>tfw get invited to local car event to film
>said hey need someone who can get their event more popular
This is making it bro's
Having people come and ask you to promote their shit because you're now a brand that people all over the country know.
Not many people because I'm niche
But god damn this is exciting times

its all anecdotal but chances are, when you're running dbol and test at the same time, your nipples are gonna start itching. once i cut the dbol out and remain on 500mg test, i dont need an AI.

everyones different but i will tell you one thing for certain: have it on hand. i had to wait a week to get mine delivered and during that time i had constant itchy nipples, it was absolutely awful.

>>37416656
reply to >>37416625

>>37416656
thinks, I'll get in just in case then.

>>37416495

It's almost as if we're people.

>>37416798
not all of us

some of us are FREAKS baby. its piss

>>37416798
Unless we up the dose

Then we are unfeeling monsters :^)

>>37416798
>leave humanity behind
>right babe?

>>37416477
Woof

>>37416818
>>37416822

>almost

Reading comprehension.

hello guise

does somebody know a source for baclofen (EU)?

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>>37416477
Pretty serious atm. At first we were both drunk out of shape faggots, drinking and using drugs. Living the yolo life

But then we realized this was a shit life and we completely turned our lives 360. We both cold turkey on smoking, drinking and drugs. We both got serious with our gym regime and did some crazy research about good routines and diets.

Now she cooks pretty much all my meals, we share training ideas, we use roids together(she was strongely against it first, but is now using winny kek) and she's currently nurse and not afraid to pin me anymore.

Life is though

>>37416997
thanks

have you noticed any of the manly side effects in her or is she not pumping ronny coleman levels?

is fatlibs still around?

also pls tell me a source within EU for baclofen ;_;

>>37417012
That's overrated

if you don't go over 10mg winny, it's all good.

Only shitty side effect she has; greasy hair.

and VERY little acne, but i don't even notice it. She never had acne in her life and takes good care of her skin, that's why she's probably lucky. I'am pretty much screwed with acne genetics

>>37417052
did you guys read any books before you started? like what information or level of into did you get before you started?

did you know someone to get them from or just order off internet?

I went to hs with a few bros who are full natty now, my cousin seems to know all the local natties but I don't think I'd be comfortable without knowing everything there is to know, like reading a giant encyclopedia

is the IRC channel still alive?

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>>37417105
There is serious so much info to be found on the internet. Literally, everything regarding to roiding can be found on the internet.

First i bought from the internet, but i'am currently using pharma gear from a local dealer. Less of a hassle( no shipping costs, no waiting etc)

If you can Google, you can find out about everything( How to pin, what cycle to start with, pct, etc. etc.)

>>37417157
haha, look who we got over here

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>I forgot to post this
All for you guys

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>>37417196
FL CONFIRMED

>>37417210
f-fuck yoo jerry!

>>37417175
thank you, take care

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>>37417196
You look like you lift in clothes, and not afraid to post pics. good job, props and respect

>>37417220
No problem. You can also ask questions regarding to roiding or other drama over here. Why do you think why we are here for

>>37417196
Lmao MG for all the roids you take you look like complete fucking shit

For real though, mirin waist and back but fix your shitty fucking delts and traps goddamn

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>>37417196
Lookin swole breh.
Now go get a haircut and ffs use some minoxidil on your face so you can have a man beard.

>>37417241
what's the deal with websites like this
>http://usfusionsupply.com/
saw it in the comments for the piana shit talk video

and the research chemical websites?

are these code names for like tren and winny or are they like chemically different compounds by 1 molecule that produce the same effects?

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>>37417241
This one is just for you
Posing is fucking hard
I basically cannot properly tense rear delts unless looking in a mirror and I keep hunching over so my lower back looks like garbage

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>>37417394
>size 34 pants

>>37417309
kek I have just left the hair to become unruly as hell. Not even sure what it does half the time anymore.
I'll run some tren so I can grow a proper beard again.

>>37417394
When I stand up straight my lower back is 2 nice big defined ridges, at least an inch deep
Lats look decent if I stand with hands on hips
Traps are just sad
Rear delts I'm most proud of but suck at tensing them
>this picture is a mess and I accept that
But I DID say I would post a back pic

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>>37417328
i will let you know when i know more about this mystery

>>37417394
I feel flattered.

Pretty good. Above expectations. Well done. Props

>my lower back looks like garbage
dead lifts and pull ups are really good for this

i dunno why you dindn't just cut. You have enough mass.

>>37417464
>dead lifts and pull ups are really good for this
Yup been doing pullups at the end of nearly every workout and deads once a week now

>i dunno why you dindn't just cut
I'm at peace with it.
I know it's going to make cutting after this bulk so much harder, especially because it won't be winter any more and if I use DNP that shit will suck.
But I reckon I've got the determination to put in and make it happen, having 16 inch arms while lean would be pretty cool

What do you guys do for core work? I've never worked them, but I think it might be holding me back from increasing my squat.

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>>37417482
Good. Keep doing them

I think you can pull it off. Keep up the good work

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>>37417394
you look way swoler from behind
miring
time to do a good cut breh

Test e 250mg e3d only

use ai from beginning or just for pct?

>>37417675
you shouldnt need it but keep it handy

>>37417681
Alright, i have a pack of arimidex for any immediate damage control

Thanks bruh

>>37416644
>Not many people because I'm niche
Midget porn?

>you're now a brand that people all over the country know
Does anyone even believe anything you say anymore

Bumped test to 900. I look like shit lately. Miss the tren look. Maybe test npp eq and sdrol?

Could be lack of sleep and only 4 gym sessions this week. Lots of cardio tho ;^)

>>37418092
I looked better on TreNPP than on pure tren at the same dosage.

Weird chit

>>37418092
to 900 from what?

you must feel like a god among scum with that much test.

how do you guys feel on tren?

how long to kick in?

are the reported sides about wanting to rape and fight people real?

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>>37418284
>are the reported sides about wanting to rape and fight people real?
Nope. I'm a bit snappier, that's it.

The whole violence thing seems to only be the case for already messed up individuals.

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>>37417035
Damn dude where have you been? FL is out but maybe email him anyways.

For baclofen you could try 24hreup or pharmacy direct on sst.

>>37415700
Don't order from them. Something's up.

hello old and new friends

nice to see the old community still going strong

>>37418284
>how do you guys feel on tren?

alternates between feeling great an strong as a bull and feeling lethargic and irritable.

I dont touch tren anymore

> how long to kick in?

its in your blood and taking action within hours of injection, regardless of ester.

As to how long until you "feel" or perceive a difference, i'd say a week, but this is a personal thing. I got tren coughs and the post inject ache from almost every other injection i did, so I quite literally "felt" tren from the get go lol

> are the reported sides about wanting to rape and fight people real

you do get ridiculously horny, but as for aggression its a self-fulfilling prophecy for most guys. They (read:want to) believe that steroids will make them more aggressive and ready to fight at the drop of the hat, so they act as such.

On tren I was very irritable and snappy, but this was from a severe lack of quality sleep on tren more than anything.

>>37418320
Sup sak
Where u been

Guys i need your advice. I'm currently in week 5 of 10 weeks 300mg test-e, but im not noticing much of it. Can i up my dose to 500mg test-e? Got nolva on hand

>>37418367
>>37418307
I wana clarify this whole tren agression thing
It is person dependent
If youve got a bad temper already it does cause you to snap real quick

Im always angry, all the time and tren definitely is not my friend

>>37418307
>>37418367
thanks guys i pinned for the first time yesterday, didnt get any cough at all, but the site aches far more than normal. maybe ive injected pure vegetable oil, who knows. im ridiculously horny today but i just put that down to placebo for now.

when i was on EQ and 500 test (my first blast) i did get really snappy, and stood up to my manager at work and got in his face a few times. he deserved it but id never do that normally. never felt violent at all, just much more assertive and not taking any shit from anyone. ive got a new job since then so i hope i dont act like that again. it made me popular with colleagues but didnt do me any favours career wise.

>>37418400
Of course

>>37418374

hello mate

i got off the rons for a good long while and moved around a lot doing odd jobs. Almost went to join the foreign legion then i realized france isnt going to do shit about isis until america makes the first move, so i didnt want get stuck cleaning toilets for 5 years lol.

sci-hub being a thing has reinvigorated my passion for androgens. I have big plans, hyooge plans, great plans. Lets make sterons great again.

>>37417105
William Llewellyn's ANABOLICS is a pretty good book

>>37418420
Damn
I have a friend joined the ffl
I landed a good job, started acting up, did a bunch of crimes and went to jail lol

I dont understand this sci hub thing

>>37418446

lol what did you do bro? aside from dealing with chinese backwater pharma magic of course :)

> sci hub

sci hub is like the pirate bay of scientific literature. Basically all the literature and studies that were behind paywalls, is now freely available to anyone.

>>37418465
Where are the sci hub articles for steroids?

>>37418536

any journal article you can find, you paste the url or database code into the sci-hub engine and it will display it in full

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Brehs..

https://www.instagram.com/p/BGKaDUYNoXx/

>>37417105
>but I don't think I'd be comfortable without knowing everything there is to know, like reading a giant encyclopedia

anabolic androgenic steroids edited by charles d kochakian is an exhaustive work on the body of scientific literature on steroids. Its also $100, and will be of no interest to most steroid users because it lacks pictures and uses a lot of big words.

It is however, literally the most exhaustive and factual information you will find. If you manage to get through it you will understand steroids better than 99% of steroid users and thats not an exaggeration. But also it might just scare you off from ever using them. Pick your poison.

First cycle recommendations? Maximally light.

Except base test and then PCT, what do I need?

>>37418672

350-400mg/week test.

seriously thats it. Anyone who can't grow like a weed off that for a first cycle is seriously delusional about how consistently and intensely they train, or they are running shit gear.

HCG throughout, aromasin or adex to keep the estradiol in check.

>>37418726
>HCG throughout, aromasin or adex to keep the estradiol in check.
that's what I meant, thanks.
I'm planning exactly on that.
Can you elaborate on HCG? What is that?
And aromasin or adex are types of HCG?
Sorry, I ain't an English antive

>>37418726
hcg why?
nobody should need an ai for 400mg test if you aren't blaha mode

>>37418649
Where do you get it for free though?
>>37418726
Also like using hcg here and there on cycle. Why do you recommend it though?

>>37417157

Underage m& plsgo.

>>37418092
The blowback from this one is gon be gud :^)

>>37418726

Can easily add some oral for a bit extra desu. And 350-400 test suspension/no ester multiple times a day vs 500 prop vs 600 enanthate...? There's a bit of a difference there in potency per mg.

You're right tho, tbqh. But it sounds so boring. Yet I'll likely be doing that myself soon. Gotten bored with the yolodoses just for laughs.

>>37418751
>>37418726
Ok, I've found out Aromasin is available in my country.
So..
400 MG test a week
+ Aromasin
And after finishing, PCT?

I need more details. When to begin Aromasin and the doses?

I want to use Deca for my joints. What is the adequate dose for this purpose?

>>37418758

the ai is specifically because i recommended running hcg throughout. HCG is very prone to aromatization, on top of the testosterone, i guarantee your estradiol levels will probably climb out of the normal male range.

Most guys wont encounter any problems with this of course, but i prefer to mitigate problems before they happen, not have to fight them off when they manifest.

>>37418751

https://thinksteroids.com/steroid-profiles/hcg/

short and skinny of it is hcg keeps your nuts working, which should and usually does make recovery a breeze when you come off, instead of the protracted affair it can be when you do nothing.

aromasin and adex are AIs - aromatase inhibitors. They lower estrogen by inhibiting the enzyme that converts androgens into estrogens.

> Where do you get it for free though?

lol you don't. If you can, I dont know about it.

> Also like using hcg here and there on cycle. Why do you recommend it though?

simply to keep the gonads working.

>>37418815

Didn't mean test suspension/ base, just meant any regularly available testosterone ester. Personally i would use prop, but enanthate/cyp is fine too.

>>37418846

>finishing

SAK meant that's a good cruising dose. Your blast should be around 1g/week.

>>37418864

cheeky kunt

>>37418851
250/wk should do it

Complete natty here. Female (inb4 LONDON)
Wondering if anyone on here has any experience with girls and SARMS. (Too pussy for real roids and also poor af)
Currently about 60kg (squat100kg, deadlift120kg, bench60kg) but massively shit test levels (had a blood test for it) and want to get way bigger.
Any suggestions for where to start SARM wise?
pls halp

>>37418846

if you use hcg throughout you shouldn't need any "PCT", just let the body do its thing. You will probably have a 2 week period post cycle of feeling a little bit down or lethargic, and after that you will start to recover rapidly.

begin aromasin on your first shot, aromasin generally comes in either 12.5mg or 25mg doses. 12.5mg/day should be plenty for your purposes.

>>37418852

Yeah I know, just being a smartass.

But desu, if he's getting 250-300mg/ml doing 1.5-2ml or 1.5ml respectively is good. If it's E I'd recommend pinning 250 e4d though. Stable enough and perfect to start with.

>>37418891

Roids are more effective and cheaper than sarms.

>shit test levels.

Almost like you're a woman!

Look for some decently priced var from someone. Or Winny.

Or maybe there's a "prohormone/designer steroid" out there that's close for women.

>>37418895
Thanks a lot mate!
One more question, what's the specific name of HCG? I want to search it in my country, so i need a specific producer, the name or something

>>37418891
use test you pussy

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Anyone have experience running ~250mg test ~400mg mast e ~400mg tren e and 50mg var?

Seemed like it would be okay for the summer.

>>37418943

human chorionic gonadotropin is the name of the compound

its trade/product names can vary from country to country, but try "pregnyl"

>>37418956
double those numbers

CMON

>>37419025

Gotta pin big to get big

>11cc CMON

>>37418972
That's the one!
Thanks!

>>37419053
>>37418972
oh and the doses of HCG?

>>37419064

250iu twice a week should be plenty.

>>37419098
>pregnyl
Thanks/

>>37410090
Hey guys i'm in the 6th day of a clen cycle. I'm taking 80mcg. Since yesterday (which was the first time I took 80mcg) I've noticed a veery slight discomfort in my chest area.

It's very slight, so much that I wonder if im imagining it sometimes. Other than that I've had literally 0 sideffects other than slight jittery feeling after popping it. Does anyone have experience with this?

>>37419201
Clens one of the few drugs nobody here likes

Idk whats happening in you
I hate that shit though
And ephedrine

Fuck stims in general unless they come in brown liquid or a little baggie lol

>>37419300
yeah this sucks i dont wanna stop it. I spent money on it and on top of that i've been seeing great progress so far and i wont lose any fat without it.

>>37419318
Lol clens not all that
I dropped dnp and cuts still going well
Except all that papa johns last night

You on proper drugs too?

>>37419344
you say clen is not all that and i know that but last time i cut i was on 1300 cals after 7 months and wasn't dropping any weight. im not doing that shit again for nothing. 4 days on clen and im down 2kg (some of it water but still)

no just clen

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>>37419318
>i wont lose any fat without it

You have problems then. Clen fucks your heart too much.

>>37419369
got blood work done recently..blood sugar a bit high but thyroid levels very good.
Test levels were only slightly above the limit but everyone says that's how they're supposed to be for natties so yeah...

also had prostatitis which could have somehow influenced that but there's no evidence to support that.

>>37419395
I had that
Ive had prostate issues a couples times actually

Ruh roh
Hope im not fukt

Also whats up men if ur still here

>>37418809
Im moving regardless

>>37418950
>>37418916
Hahah cheers. Literally no idea how to get hold of decently priced var, everyone I gym with competes powerlifting so no one will touch it. Any ideas?

>>37419918
Balkan var i have is g2g suprisingly
One of the sources here had good var
I cant remember eho though

Daily reminder that JM did gay4pay.

>Daily reminder is brought to you by Rich Piana's 5% Nutrition. 4 SCOOPS CMN ON.

>>37419201
80mg clen didnt do much for me as in stimulatory-wise. Maybe jittery since I couldnt stay still for a haircut but that could of been the Oral Tren. Are you skinny?

>>37418956
Who is this? Shes cute af.

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>>37420085
Riley Reid. From her Snapchat.

>>37420071
nope. i wouldnt be taking clen if I was skinny dude

>>37420138
whats her snapchat?

>>37420141
if you are fat definately don't take clen

75trena/100testp EOD as a cutting cycle 8 or 10 weeks tren 12 weeks prop.
2 cycles under my belt none with tren.
Is this moderate enough to get decent gains and not go Chris Benoit mode?

Anything other than caber / ai / hcg on cycle?

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>>37420255
No idea. She has a private one now for nudes though

Is it worth it to dd deca to my 12 week test cycle (would stop the deca after 10 weeks due to the long ester / half-life)

>>37420407
First cycle?

>>37420440
Yes
I know the general advice is to do a test only cylce for the first one but my buddy who got me the gear already got deca too.
I've also read that 10 weeks of deca is too short to see the added benefits.
The way I see it I have 3 option
1. Save the deca for next time
2. Do it as is (500 test, 400 deca per week)
3. Get more to extend the cycle to 14 weeks (deca for 12)

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Wow, my latest job interview went extremely well. I guess I'm starting next week.

>>37420494
Mfw thought this was Mast and was happy for him :(

Grats anon

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>>37420570
Who are you calling anon?

Thanks though, man.

>>37420494
Glad I saw this. Good job fella.

>>37420493
10 weeks isn't too short for deca if your pinning 2x week, you would still see results. The issue is more related to how you will interact with compounds and how your body will react to exogenous test / hpta suppression. My first cycle was test/dbol and believe me it was plenty.

>>37420259
im not fat either dude.

>>37420597
Yep, thanks, I'm pretty glad myself. I had some pretty ace answers for the questions they asked this time, feels good.

>>37420138
green eyes + freckles = ideal girl
>also being short and with a cute butt ofcourse

Would marry except shes an attention whore :(

>>37420589
Wait, FL?!

Great, get in there bud. Start to all things good hopefully :)

>>37420605
Thanks man
Maybe I'll keep it for next time or see if my buddy will trade it for dbol

How the fuck do you guys clear up your bacne?

Benzoyl peroxide does fuck all besides dry my skin, same with Nizoral shampoo

I have tried dosing my adex less for a while, more for a while and stopping it all together

I'm cruising on 200mg test e per week and I feel hopeless

Might have to use accutane, but I really don't want to have to resort to that.

I'm thinking maybe I should try aromasin as my AI and see if that helps??

Pls help /fraud/

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>>37420494
Congrats
You've completed JOB2016
Now you have to look towards GF2017 or SEX2017

>>37420828
Wear shirts to bed and different shirt each night
Change bed sheets once a week
Don't go too rough on your skin, if you iritate it you can make things worse or cause your body to produce more oil to compensate
If it is severe, accutane is worth it. I had real bad acne on my face in high school, the kind that makes you depressed and where people stare at you and make fun of you. Went to derma so many times but nothing worked until I got the nuke

>>37420891
Whoa now, 2017? Don't be so optimistic.

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>>37420570
I wish tho. Everyone around me is getting awesome jobs and iam just watching how everyone is getting awesome jobs. S. M H

Will be sucking on the bbc for money soon. Thanks for the support buddy

>>37420923
I take you only apply for jobs relating to what you studied
would you rather be neet that work a job you perceive to be below you?

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>>37420923
mast are there any other big guys on /fraud/ other than you and brothama? I would guess that coach and brick are big guys but I've never seen any pics of them

>>37420923
Mast whats your average calorie amount on low carb days?
thinking of trying your carb cycling, starting with 1 carb day a week

>>37420970
>applying for jobs that you studied.
>do you want to be neet?
>studied
>meet

Found the NEET

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>>37420828
>does fuck all besides dry my skin
Moisturize after using aggressive products like those or it might get even worse than better.

>>37420923
Can't you get a job related to what you're looking for but further down the ladder? Maybe an internship? Just anything to get you started and networking

>>37421031
What are you implying?

Someone who studied can still be a NEET.

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>>37421031
what did you mean by this?

Ok so I've got a few questions to ask about sources, that don't directly ask FOR sources so it should be ok. Feel free to ignore but I'm just trying to educate myself.

How to tell if an online source is shady? Any review sites?

How to ask people you are 99% sure are roiding at your gym where they get it from without being an ass?

If I have a le reddit account that is years old, would pming people on r/steroids about sources be out of the question?

Thanks for your time. Stay shredded brahs

>>37421152
Sst on reddit
Dont ask people irl thats rude af

For a first cycle of 500test and dbol kicker, is 20 lbs of muscle gains hard to achieve?

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>>37421246
>dbol kicker

>>37421257
dat poor chap

>>37421257
if i was him id be more worried about being a tomato

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I just want to get jacked desu

>>37421257
Without dbol is 20lbs unheard of?

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>>37421378

>>37421246
Good thing you mentioned how long the cycle would be or your current stats to know where to start answering from.

So the probable answer for you, yes, very hard to achieve.

>>37421430
Sorry. 155lbs @ 5'10 and 10% bf. I know it's an annoying question but I just want to know what my realistic expectations should be.

>>37421430
He's 240lbs, 6'2", 8%bf
20lbs lbm in 8 week cycle reasonable?
Thanks

>>37421512
Damn, also 4 month cycle I forgot to put

>>37421430
>how long the cycle would be
>>37421512

Unless it's really long, most probably not going to happen.

>>37421515
Add in creatine and most possibly

>>37421430
Can anyone talk me out of running tren second cycle? First cycle was just 600 test dbol. Had literally 0 issues, didn't need ai and balls came back immediately after pct

>>37421573

Don't.

Did it work?

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>>37421573
do it

>>37421573
Don't see why not since you already know how your body reacts to test.

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>>37420970
>>37421039
Yeah, i was also thinking about that. I would probably have no choice. I had applied for a job that was below my level, but that recruiter was astonished, that i applied for a lower level job and was asking; is this kind of last resort or something? Like, wtf. JUST GIMME A JOB. Because they want to be 100% sure you want this.

>>37420992
I know 1 anon over here that is big and bimbo of course. The rest is too pusy to post pic or aren't bimbo or brothama big

>>37421006
frankly ..I really don't know. I never counted a kcal in my life. I just make sure i get enough protein and fat with each meal during this carb cycle diet.

approx 200 grams of chicken with each meal with some almonds or natty peanut butter on low carb day.

>>37421599
>>37421604
Both make compelling arguments.
What If I only do a little like 50mg EOD? Surely I won't end up raging or fucking a tranny right?

>>37421635
From what I've read there will be little to no sides on 250mg

>>37421631
>is this kind of last resort or something?
Just answer with you looking for experience and knowledge over other stuff.

>>37421647
If youre gonna use tren esp w low test im assuming go at least 525 ace
Pref 700
If youre gonna do it do it
Low tren like thats for cutting hard or as an accessory to a load of other drugs