WTF GUT

Yea you probably have down syndrome if I had to guess.

Looks like autism, sorry OP

>>37387426
Too fat plus some APT would be my guess.

>>37387426
core exercises + cut

>>37387455

What's the best method for bulking in my position?

I'm 6'3 and 190 pounds.I think around 210 is when people look decent at my height.

My lifts are bullshit, squat is 125 pounds

Ugh....

do you drink a lot of soda?

>>37387487
Just lift instead of being concerned with bulking. You're already fat as shit if anything you need to lose weight. If I were you'd I'd lift at maintenance and just change my body composition so that I had more muscle.

My lifts for 5x5:

Squat - 125 pounds
Bench - 115 pounds
Row - 85 pounds
OHP - 65 pounds
Deadlift - 235 (1x5)

I can't really justify a cut...

>>37387426
Stop drinking beer. Cut your calories.

>>37387509

Yes, like 1-2 can cokes a day

>>37387532
>there are people who actually drink this much soda

>>37387426
You're going to have to do some core work, if you feel bloated all the time then start going through your diet and recording what you eat so you can pin down what's causing it.

I was feeling bloated for about a year, my abdomen was always puffy and kind of hard even when relaxed. Turns out I had crohns and never knew, it had perforated my small intestines and I had sepsis by the time the docs figured it out.

Its probably nothing.

>>37387532
soda will give you a major gut, cut it down to 1-2 a WEEK if even that, a lot of people don't realize "beer belly" applies to pop as well

>>37387487
You'll get there. Eat everything in front of you and kill yourself at the gym.

>>37387426
EAT MORE
and
LIFT HEAVY
You are still DYEL and are in no position to be worrying about something so stupid

>>37387558

How did you fix chrohns? I have some gastritis type issues that I can't really identify.

Doc says if it was anything serious i'd "be coming in on a stretcher"...

I can't afford any significant testing though.

>>37387524
You dumbass. You start a thread about your gut and then say you can't justify a cut?

Let me make this easy for you: if you're fat, cut. If you're skinny, bulk. You are fat.

OP for the love of god please do not cut.
You literally have no muscle to cut down to. Clean bulk and lift heavy. You are still dyel

>>37387559
I drink about 100-200 calories of coffee a day. I sweeten it and add cream. Is that just as had as soda?

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>>37387647
It's very bad.
Black coffee sucks at first but you can get used to that shit really quickly. Same with plain green tea.

Motivation is hardest in the kitchen, work at it.

>>37387693
It's funny because I indulge on nice coffee that's supposed to be drunk black, but I was never raised on black coffee. Life would be much easier if I drank it black though.

>>37387693
Bullshit. Half a spoonfull of sugar and a bit of milk is nowhere near as bad as any soda.

>>37387724
Personally I think you can get used to just about anything in your diet.
I'd say a good 60% of my current diet is stuff that made me wince at first. You just keep at it and soon you won't be able to go back.

For example I had coffee with 2 sugars and lots of semi-skimmed milk as a teen. Now that would make me feel ill.
Hell, even semi skimmed milk tastes unpleasant to me when compared to the initially-unbearably-watery Unsweetened Almond Milk.

>>37387559
Ok, sauce please?

Is it the sugar? Hfcs specifically? The carbonation?

Why should soda "give you a gut" but not simple sugars in general?

Also, is it not recommended to consume sugars post-workout to restore muscle glycogen?

>>37387693
black coffee is the goat. used to hate it, but now it's all i drink. sometimes i'll add some matcha green tea also.

>>37387749
Well in my case it's ~3 tsp of sugar and maybe 3 tbsp of half and half. 45 calories from sugar and maybe 60-80 from dairy.

>>37387774
Gatorade is no different than a fizzy drink really.

>>37387792
just drink the low sugar gatorade

the potassium and sodium are legit tho

OP here, should I try paleo + water only?

>>37387792
When did i ever say anything about gatorade?

Yes i know, sugar, got it. I'm asking why you think sugar gives you a gut, assuming you're not insulin resistant/Prediabetic/diabetic. Insulin, if timed correctly, can be beneficial.

I would assume the problem, rather, ia too great a caloric surplus... as a pound of muscle requires less calories than a pound of fat. Where the individual stores the fat is juat that, individual.

>>37387794
Lol no gatorade has almost no potassium or sodium

You want legit electrolytes? Spinach and salt.

>>37387814
I wasn't the girl you were initially asking. I just chimed in.

>>37387784
Point is you can put sugar and milk in your coffee without making it a calorie bomb. It doesn't have to be black.

>>37387426
You literally have no muscle on your upper body anon, if you gained some mass on your chest, back and shoulders your gut would look less weird and more proportionate.

>>37387487
nigga just get to 5/4/3, worry about "cutting" later.


also don't eat like a pig, cutting sucks and the less time you spend cutting the happier you will be. figure out your daily caloric needs, add 500, don't eat shitty food. Do a progression workout until you hit 5/4/3, then decide what you want to do then. This will take ~2 years

>>37387524
I have fatty gut too, son. Down to 230 from 270.
You can still make progress on a cut. Quit making excuses and fix your fucking diet.

>>37387598
RTFS

It specifically outlines skinnyfat, dumbass. And the solution isn't to just cut. Kid has a BMI that puts him underweight, and you're telling him to cut?

Nah son. Follow the advice of thousands of anons smarter than this idiot, read the fucking sticky, do what a trainer would tell you to do - unanimously, BULK. Trying to get down to a real life skellington before putting on muscle will just fuck you over, you'll end up putting on fat with the muscle since you'll be starved.

Either bulk or maintain and lift heavy.

>>37387839
>5/4/3

What is this

>>37387887
number of plates on your max deadlift, squat, and bench

>>37387886
Except it's easier to put on muscle when you're already lean and you'll look better too. The world is comprised of normies, normies DO NOT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT HOW MUCH YOU CAN LIFT. Telling a fatass to fucking bulk when he's already over 20% BF is fucking retarded, he's going to look like a fat pile of shit. Natties are much better off cutting to 10% and "clean" bulking to 15% rinse and repeat.

>>37387586
I didn't fix it, I had 3 surgeries; the third one I came undone at home the same day I got out, so I picked up my guts and drove to the ER, I got a free tummy tuck out of it since they had apparently failed to stitch my abdominal cavity sufficiently and had shittily stapled my wound.

I'm on immunomodulators for the rest of my life and I get partial obstructions that require ER visits and sometimes week long stays in the hospital.

>>37387487
You need to lose weight before you worry about bulking to 210. That's at least a couple years away. You're not gonna be 210 at a desirable body fat any time soon.

I have the same problem OP.

I'm 6'3 90kg

There is very little fat on my stomach. You don't look like you have a lot of fat either when you're tensed. If that's the case then your stomach is bloated, losing fat won't help. It's a bloated organ. I eat a fuckton of carbs but if something comes up and I'm not eating all the carbs that are in my diet, my bloating will be almost gone after 2 days.

> Drinking soda
> Fucking honestly stop. Drink weak cordial if you must have a sweet drink

>>37387426

that trouble gut... that triple double bubble stubble wubble gut.

>>37387984

Jesus fuck

What were your symptoms? How bad were they?

>>37388075

This is what scares me. How can I have such little fat elsewhere? I'm terrified that something is wrong in a medical sense.

>>37388304
Don't eat any carbs for a few days, especially no whey and milk. See if it helps. If it doesn't, it's probably just bowel cancer.

>>37388339

Well what if it is carbs, then what does that mean?

>>37387426
I wouldn't worry too much about it at this point, OP. You're just skinny fat right now, it's normal to have a gut. If I were you I'd do a long bulk, probably at least a year or more - go slow and steady, focus get stronger. Then cut again at a reasonable pase, not overdoing it.

>>37387586
Cut out wheat and dairy. All I really eat nowadays besides beef chicken and veggies is rice and sweet potatoes. My stomach loves it and it doesnt bloat me or leave me gassy at all.

Aswell work on stomach vacuums.. and if you really want>>37387598
you can just barely eat anything for a few days (500kcal for 2-3 days) while lifting your ass off and drinking lots of water - itll look like you surgically removed your intestines.

And as said already stay away from the pop.

>>37387814
Sugar is fine post workout, but fizzy pop will irritate your stomach, causing some inflammation combined with the co2 youve got one hell of a bloat.

Have a gatorade and an equal amount of water throughout your workout instead of a can of fucking coke.

>>37388706
>>37388728
Fuck you and youre worthless advice. Get out of my thread so other people can give me real assistance

>>37388415
Thanks man. I'll start bulking immediately, gonna order a pizza tomorrow and eat some of my birthday cake too

>>37388075
>>37388415

Thanks for the help. Wish everyone else was like you instead of jackass trolls that don't know what theyre talking about

>>37388828
>>37388965

bait, not op

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>>37388980
Star by my post means it's my post. Not sure why you said that

>>37388081
Any fucking GI issue that lasts more than a week go see a doctor. I was diagnosed with Ulcerative Colitis earlier this year after shitting blood for a week.

>>37387774
>>37387792

i mean sorry but i dont really have the sources or scientific backings as to why, i just remember from general knowledge that high soda consumption gives you a pot belly, and personal experience to the fact that when i stopped drinking so much soda i also lost my own gut

i mean if anybody thinks i'm lying and they wanna suck down 4 cans of pop a day to prove i'm wrong be my guest

gatorade and shit is really sugary but its supposed to be, when you sweat a lot you need something like gatorade, all those fat kids that drink it are only getting the negatives because of basic homeostasis - they didn't lose anything that gatorade is supposed to replenish so it's just compounding existing stores of sugars

>>37389423
Fuck. This is meant for:
>>37388283
This guy.