So is this the natty limit? Somewhat buff but not too big

>>37258415

>Natty

>>37258415
> natty

>>37258415
>implying thats not photoshopped

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Pizza

>>37258415
>implying those arent manlets

>>37258415
>Somewhat buff
you've been here too long

no that's the HEIGHT FACE AND FRAME LIMIT

>>37258415
>fitness models.
>natty.

>>37258440
Man, what happened to Rich?

>>37258415
This is a photoshop edit by gay dudes. Seriously.

>>37258738
Vinci twins are gay?

>>37258415
Not even close, these guys aren't very big at all.

>>37258781
I mean, this guy is probably around 140kg in this video, maybe a little over 20% bodyfat. Imagine if he cut, like ever. The thing is just that the really huge guys don't bother with cutting, because they end up chasing strength instead.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fsso6SrcFmA

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>>37258415
Lol those guys are running test and tren for sure. They are well past the natural limit. Go lift for two years and you'll see just how pathetically small the natural limit really is. You're wasting your time if you're lifting for aesthetics naturally

>>37258911
b8

>>37258934
Yeah call it b8 all you want anon but it's an irrefutable truth that you'll learn soon enough

>>37258666
nice

I think he's down to 3 scoops.

>>37258911
Two years is nothing.

>>37258934
lol ask me how I know you're in your 1st year of lifting?

>>37258999
Unless you're a retard with a god awful training program and diet you'll reach your natural limit or come incredibly close to it in two, three years tops

>>37258415
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opE-w2nC5B8

This guy is on gear. The natty limit is somewhere below this

>>37259038
You won't, that's stupid.

If you're a man, your body releases test and growth hormones basically your entire life, takes at least a decade to even get close to what you're capable of.

>>37259058
Sure thing buddy anything past age 25 and your test will start declining. You keep lifting for that ottermode or built fat physique though because that's all you can be naturally.

>>37259041
I actually chuckled, thanks dude

>>37259073
you're retarded

if a natty was true builtfat and did a successful cut he would be more than ottermode

>>37259080 please refer to said chart
>>37258911 you can't cut naturally and maintain a good physique. I'm guessing you're still new to lifting anon. If you're happy with those numbers then by all means go for it and enjoy having to have a perfect diet just to maintain it until you hit your mid twenties then you'll start declining from your limit no matter how hard you train

>>37259127
by contest condition do you mean like 6-7% bf?

because cutting to that as a natural is also retarded, 9-11% bf is the sweet spot where you dont lose mass. ive been lifting 4 years. for the 9-11% bf range, add 20lbs to all those weights

Lmfao at these fucking pussies that say these bodies are not achievable without roids. Enjoy being a pathethic cunt for the rest of your life.

It's funny how these braindead dyel/fatass natties always try to teach roiders about roids