Ramadan?

you can do whatever you want as long as it's in your own desert pisshole country

>>37242530
The first few days are the hardest desu.
Fasted for lent
gonna fast for ramadan too
Hopefully gonna be cut asf

Depends on your appetite. You usually eat one meal after fast breaking but that meal could be anything from 2000 to 4000 calories. Some of my muslim friends lose weight, some gain. some stain the same. If you just want to cut you could intermittend fasting or just count you macros and eat at a deficit. The 'no drinking water' part is also very hard and when you are no muslim there is no point not to drink water.

For hating fat people so much you pussies sure do complain a lot about not eating, even during a cut. Just don't eat, you idiots.

>>37242579
i need to get rid of the extra fat i recently gained bulking.
i went from 12% to 15% bodyfat in just 3 weeks.

If i fast for 30 days with only with 2000Cals a night how much bodyfat will i lose?

>>37242530

I'm not religious so don't fast but yeah everyone I know loses weight on it as it is essentially Intermittent Fasting.

There's a slight danger you would put on weight if you do it in a traditional Arab/South Asian/African/Central Asian/Whatever household as from experience there tends to be a lot of fried and high calorie food for the evening meal where you break your fast, if you are sedentary and not trying to have a normal routine/exercise amount while doing it that could lead to weight gain rather than weight loss.

Fasting is ok, but not drinking water while fasting is pretty stupid.
Water is essential to keep the skin healthy and the metabolism running.
Drinking constantly a lot of water is the most important thing when doing fasting diets.

>>37242598
back to /r9k/

muslim here, i love ramadan, it has this special feeling that i cant describe, its really fun eating at dawn with all the family n stuff is just amazing

>>37242530
>Body needs constant protein intake to build muscle
>Literally eat nothing almost the whole day.

I'm a softcore muslim, I used to starve myself out in Ramadan because I used to be a skinny fuck and ate nothing anyways, but now that I'm regularly working out and trying to eat even more every day, I just can't do it.

>>37242637
You guys bomb shit later for family bonding?

>30 day fast
>allowed to eat as much of any food you want when the sun is down

Wow, what an utter waste of time

>>37242612
Depends on your activity level but I would say 3-4 kilos. Usually a deficit of 7500 kcal is equal to a kg of fat, but thats not 100%. Next time try not to bulk on such a big profict and you wont need to cut so soon.

>>37242662
Ok I take that back. Sorry Shitty morning.

Happy Ramadan

>>37242649
bulk up at night bruh

>>37242672

So you would easily be able to have a normal routine if you couldn't eat any food or drink anything including water, in typically countries with 18 hours of daylight, between sunrise and sunset for 30 days and searing temperatures?

Nigga I ain't religious but it'd be a complete bitch to do on the water part alone.. Are you actually retarded?

>>37242732
Thats the thing...
You become more of a man during ramadan

>>37242541

nice to know that racist pieces of shit have no reading comprehension.

>>37242682

Ty. No worries dude it's 4chan. Everyone shit posts. And /fit/ is still probably the most ethnic minority and gay friendly board here since all people mainly care about is if you lift and being bros.

>>37242530

>ramadan

BUILD THE WALL

>>37242732
>So you would easily be able to have a normal routine if you couldn't eat any food or drink anything including water, in typically countries with 18 hours of daylight, between sunrise and sunset for 30 days and searing temperatures?
>Nigga I ain't religious but it'd be a complete bitch to do on the water part alone.. Are you actually retarded?

where the fuck did I say anything about how it would affect your lifting routine?

>>37242767
>Gay Friendly
Triggered

>>37242759
Criticism of ideas is racist? Dumbass

>>37242783
You're in the wrong board then newfriend. Might I suggest something for your kind?

>>>/pol/

>>37242817
im muslim bruh
i don't like gays and fuck /pol/

>no food
okay

>no water
no water? YOUR CELLS NEED GODDAMN WATER TO SURVIVE REEE

The last time ramadan that came around, i lost 4 percent bodyfat and added some lean muscle. I wake up early enough to have a huge meal and lots of water. After I open my fast I manage to get 2-3 more meals in and start gripping iron in between there.

Reminds me of the warrior diet.

>>37242811

>you can go back to your own shitty country
>"criticism of ideas"

yeah ok

>>37242530
>is eating 10000 calories after sundown every day good for you
no
muslims only fast until it's dark and allah can't see them munch

>>37242530
Yo this looks swole asf
might try it

>Hey guys, Ramadan is actually kind of cool and super healthy! I'm not saying Islam is good, but this will benefit you!

>Hey guys, I'm not saying Islam is great or anything, but turbans are super comfy. Maybe you should give it a try ;)

>Hey guys, I'm not saying Islam is the best or anything, but they really push family values. Perhaps we should just borrow some of it to benefit our own lives ;)


>>37242940
>yfw the quran actually uses this logic as proof of God.

This is why I lift.

>>37243205
?
Fasting serves many purposes. While they are hungry and thirsty, Muslims are reminded of the suffering of the poor. Fasting is also an opportunity to practice self-control and to cleanse the body and mind. And in this most sacred month, fasting helps Muslims feel the peace that comes from spiritual devotion as well as kinship with fellow believers, to feel the pain of their fellow man. And to remind us that one day that we will be 6 feet underground with nothing...

>>37243401
I've been poor, I don't need reminding of it.
Resisting temptation is self control. Resisting sustenance is stupidity.
Spiritual devotion is a term without definition and can be used to justify anything.
I don't need to starve myself to feel kinship with my friends and family. And I certainly don't want to feel the (self inflicted) pain of my fellow man.
Feeling hunger would only be a good reminder of death if what follows is a period of eternal starvation. I happen to know that according to Islam, it is not.

Fuck Islam
It has no place in western society

>>37242530
What the fuck is this ramadan meme?
Why is scooby and my nigga elliot haluse fasting for ramadan?

>>37242530
> No water 30 days
> No water
> 30 days
DEAD
E
A
D

>>37242530
>Im not muslim but is Ramadan good for cutting and losing weight?

Depends entirely on how much you eat in your one meal.

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>>37244525
No water during daylight
u can drink all u want at night til dawn

>>37244475
they caught on to the meme

That no water shit is dumb as all hell. I've met muslim's who've tried to do that crap during summer while taking track.

>>37242541
Can't tell if racist, IIFYM joke, or racist IIFYM joke.

>>37242530
if elliot does it, im doing it senpai

>>37244619
>Muslim is now a race

You are the problem.

>>37242530
Ramadan is retarded.

>>37242759
>>37244619

There's nothing racist about >>37242541
you stupid kuks

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>Tfw live close to a medaterrarian restaurant
>Tfw the owner and I are good friends and he gives me leftovers every night during ramadan

Lets thank Jesus for not beeing so stupid and not stealing our glorious gains

I LIFT FOR JESUS

DO YOU ?

>>37242889
Oh sorry hope you don't think I'm islamophobic

>>37242759
Islam isn't even a race...

>>37242530
All sand niggers need to die of slow cancer

RAGHEADS OUT REEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>37242530
>if you don't support stupid dumb fucking sand festival with no water and no food
>then you're a racist bigot

Fuck off to Reddit

>>37245897
Wait are you talking about Ramadan or coachella?

>>37245833
This.
You can hate the living fuck out of muslims, degrade them and treat them like filth

..as you should

>>37242530
People don't fast for Ramadan though,
When he sun goes down you're allowed to eat, drink, smoke as much as you want.
There is a morning bell in Arabic countries that signals first light and you stop eating and doing all that stuff till the next night.

Anyone who says they are fasting are just doing some new age shit.

learn2othercultures

>>37242637
Hi brother. It's cool to hear that
But plz don't force we do the same as you do since you come here voluntarily. We don't hate your culture. But we don't want your culture either so stay in your line

>>37245897
OP didn't even call anyone racist, all he did was post a thread about intermittent fasting for 30 days (which is what ramadan is). You guys turned into some kind of religion/race war. I'm not a muslim sympathiser or anything, but honestly you guys are as dumb as them. I wish /b/ would stop spilling into other boards and they'd stay in their own containment board.

>Salam friends! I think you should on fast on Ramadan because it will help your gains alhamdulilah. I'm not saying Islam is good but Muhammad (pbuh) fasted and made great gains. Allahu akbar

>>37245924
of course they fast

"Fasting during the month of Ramadan is one of the Five Pillars of Islam. "

>>37242759
>come to western country
>literately abandon their home
>hurrr durrr we're the best culture
>knee to Islam
>you don't?
>ok racist piece of shit don't tolerate us wahhhhhh wahhhh muh racism muh evil oppression

>>37245924
>op literately typed out you're racist piece of shit
Ok liberal I know you can be blind to minority but this?

>morning bell in Arabic country
Good for them cool story Muslim friendo. But keep that shit in Arab country please

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>>37245924
Don't make me come burn your cigarettes and deal out some lashings for all that shirk

Ramadan is the ultimate proof islam is bullshit. In my country the sun may never rise in some parts of the year. Mr. Allah obviously didn't account for that.

But go ahead, don't eat. I did a voluntary starvation one summer (too lazy + too much work), and I lost ~10kg. Didn't have ANY muscle either before or after doing it though.

>Starve most of the day
>Keep the gains
>Choose one

>>37246028
Edit: The sun may never set aswell in other parts of the year.

>>37245776
I lift for Allah, not an idol.

>>37246028
>Mr. Allah obviously didn't account for that.
B-but he is the creator of everything, so he knew what he was doing, right?

>>37246028
Or Muslims in those areas would return to their ancestral home or do the Hajj for a month or literally thousands of more sensible options than starve to death you dip

>>37242530
I've done this for the past few years and I'm gonna do it again now...

>part 1/2:

As-salam alaikum brothers,

>Cut? Bulk? Or maintenance?
It's wholly inefficient to bulk during Ramadan - if you were thinking of doing so, stop now. All you can do is MAINTAIN or CUT. So far I've done all 3 - bulking will fail hard, maintaining is very easy except you will absolutely be exhausted 45 minutes into your workouts (so end them at 45 min). Cutting works fairly well except your strength gains will fall and it will take you about 3-5 weeks to get them back to where they were after the month is over.

>Sarcoplasmic vs Myofilbrillar hypertrophy?
While bulking should be avoided since it will end with largely fat gain, your routine's emphasis can still be tuned to your goals. If you're a noob you will still experience all of the gains unhindered - probably best time to start is Ramadan for noobs actually. If you want to maintain your strength then continue your 5x5/3x5/7-5-3 routines. This is doubly the case if you are on a cut. Your gains as a natty are reliant on your strength, so if you're cutting then you'll be exhausted ergo cut your workouts short but make them frequent (4+ days/week). For those that want to hold onto your size, then feel free to do PPL or whatever mass-builder or split you prefer. This is much easier to do with nothing in your stomach - just chase the pump. tl;dr: Strength + any diet = difficult, other combinations are doable for anyone.

>>37246165

>part 2/2:

>Fasting & Exercise
I am approaching my 30's, am married and have children. My stats are ~1100 lb total 195 lbs @ 183 cm, ~15% BF. I'm religious while living in the U.S. but you really can't tell I'm religious (I had a lvl 60 toon). During Ramadan I go to the gym ~1-2 hours BEFORE BREAKING THE FAST. With such timing I am able to push myself as far as I can go - once the sweat starts to pour from my head just stop and head on home - you'll get there, shower and soon enough break your fast. It's a terrible idea to workout 5+ hours prior Magrib prayer - basically a setup to failure. I have also hit the gym AFTER breaking the fast - simply eat 100-300 calories along with a pre-workout and then hit the weights. DO NOT stuff your face like a pig (you heathen) or else you'll grow lazy and probably call it night. Make sure your Sahour (last meal before beginning the fast - prior to Fajr) is packed with complex carbs as this will make fasting much easier. It also helps to not drink anything other than water during this time (whereas you can go ham [you heathen] after Magrib).

>Willpower
Bodybuilding nutrition essentially assists you with the hunger issue - I've personally never had this issue and have several times done all-nighters for exams (STEM) where I return home and sleep through the entirety of the breakfast time period. That's right - I ended up fasting two days in succession without food nor water... several times in my life actually. The last time I missed a day of fasting I was 12 years old. Every year these threads are filled with whiny weaklings and it's quite sad honestly. The purpose of this month-long holiday is to teach you willpower. I sure have it. Do you?

Many of you reading this will be of those who do not pray and those who do not abide by the rules revealed to you. For those who actually do follow the religion and aren't mentally DYEL, be steadfast and you'll be rewarded and Ramadan Kareem.

first time i tripped since '08

>>37242530
>not drinking water for 30 days
wew lad, no wonder muslims are fucking crazy in the mind. Normal people die after not drinking water for 5 days. I can't even imagine what happens when you somehow survive for 30 days without water

>>37246028

most moslems actually get fatter during ramadan due to their nightly binges.

it's not a "fast". they just change what time of the day they eat.

>>37243401
if they are so peaceful, why are they tryiong to take over the world with violence, raping people, murdering non-believers, having more than 1 wife, killing fags and trannys that could be very nice people? Are the poor the only people they can feel empathy for?

>>37245776
I would lift for Darwin if it pleases you. But I share your sentiment

I'm muslim and have no issue fasting, just hate not drinking water. Most Muslims I know consume like 4 meals when they break their fast which defeats entire purpose of fasting. Most don't even give food to the poor or homeless.

>>37244574
What a pointless fucking thing

I thought these fags just didn't eat the whole month somehow. Now I find out they can drink water and eat half the fucking day? The hoops being jumped through to make this make sense are ginormous.

>>37246415
Sun doesn't go down until 9 this Ramadan expect a shit ton of angry Muslims driving

>>37245926
Wat? All he said was he likes Ramadan how is that forcing you to do anything

>>37246028
>>37246050

Actually this just proves you guys ignorant on Islam and only hate out of ignorance rather than knowledge.

He did mention what you should do you retards. If you live in an area where the sun may not rise or set then u follow the time of either the nearest city to your location or Mecca times.

Don't be ignorant.

>>37242889
I'm Muslim and have a ton of gay and racist friends. Gotta tolerate errbady

>>37242649
Hey man I used to be a Muslim too and i'm not fasting. It's impossible to walk to the gym and workout walk back home then not eat.

>>37246415


>I thought these fags just didn't eat the whole month somehow.
Oh my god I literally cannot fathom this level of stupidity

>>37245959
>>37246008
>Muslim will usually eat a meal right after sunset called Iftar,
If you're eating or drinking, you're not fasting.
Fasting is going days without eating and drinking the minimum amount of water needed to survive.
Don't fall for their lies.

>>37245988
>thinking i'm a liberal
The fact you think knowledge automatically equates to liberal ideology shows how retarded you are.

Fasting a few days for a cut is fine, going an entire month without eating adequate portions is fucking retarded.
It's the kind of shit high school girls do and trannies.

>>37246344
Talk to isis habibi

>>37245908
LMAOOOOOOO

>>37246028
if your closer to the north then u just use the mecca time standard.
retard

>>37246311
Your a fucking idiot....
>being this dumb

>>37246311
No Water from sunrise to sundown.
You can drink all the water you want from twilight to dawn.
Don't be that stupid...

>>37246675
You get the same amount of calories. It's pretty much Intermittent Fasting with the water fast thrown in there. Please stop attempting to explain things you do not know. Who cares about your definition of fasting
>no true scotsman

>>37246675
Are you Poo In LOO?
>Fasting is going days without eating and drinking the minimum amount of water needed to survive.
Literarily starvation/gandhi mode

>>37242530
>people fail to see the proven benefits of intermittent fasting
>people are pro intermittent fasting but anti Ramadan because it has a different name

>>37247282
Pretty much this.

>>37246675
>knowledge automatically equates to liberal ideology shows how retarded you are.

Considering studies show people with higher levels of education support more liberal ideologies I'd say you're the retard here

>>37242530
shit thats in 18 days

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>>37242929
>Islamic nations aren't shit

>>37246095
No you just follow the Mecca time standard in those conditions

Not drinking water is fucking stupid, just like the entire warmongering, paedophilic, bronze age religion of islam that was founded by a lying, paedophile con man for his own benefit (piss be upon her).

Islam is fucking dumb as fuck and bluepilled and this just fucking proves it.

Did mohhamed not know you can't fucking survive 30 days with no fucking water and food? Fucking dumbass retards.

And fuck all you numale cucks who you to fucking try it. Your ancestors must be fucking LAUGHING at you.

>>37242541

This.

>>37242541
Thread.

How fucking dare people not eat food in the great land of the USA.

>>37246675
>If you're eating or drinking, you're not fasting.
>Fasting is going days without eating and drinking the minimum amount of water needed to survive.
>Don't fall for their lies.
>being this retarded
>thinking anyone cares about your personal dictionary
>advocating nogainz

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>>37242530
>no food no water
Wat? You're dead after 7 days without water. Drinking your own piss might extend that to 2 weeks. Is he planning to drink his peers piss? That's pissening.

Is bulking on IF that ill advised? I can easily get in 3k calories in a 4-6 hour window

>>37250862
Always wondered this too, I'm worried about the insulin spike though and the consequent that will last all day.

>voluntarily participating in one of the worst elements of that shitty religion

>>37250877
>>37250711
>>37249701
>2016
>Still caring what other people do
lads. stop

What the fuck is the point? What is the religious significance? Why not just just not eat or drink anything at all for a couple days. What the fuck good comes from eating whatever you want as long as the sun is down?

>>37250859
you uncultured tard

>>37250896
What's the point of any ritual? It's ritual. It's symbolic shit, not functional.

>>37250896
It's more a time of reflection, it gives people time with their families, they pray together eat together etc, it's a pillar of islam that's fundamental because it teaches you that change comes from inside, mastery over your basic habits and instincts all provided the will comes from yourself rather than your parents etc, people now a days do it because everyone else in their community or family is doing it, rather than doing it to improve themselves. It's akin to Buddhist dark retreats and fasting in other religions and cultures in that it emphasizes purification.

>>37250930
Take your will to improve your physical form, it came from you at the end of the day, no one made you lift weights or gain mass, it all came from inside you. Similarly there's people out there that realize the quotidian routine of their current life is lacking spiritual connection and they feel empty, they have no will power, they might have problems with smoking or drugs and this provides a means to change the routine. Many people quit drugs and smoking during ramadan. It also teaches you patience, a skill people don't refine.

>>37250930
>>37250954
Unfortunately it's all meme tier stuff now with people awaiting the end of ramadan so they can resume their activities they did prior to fasting, ultimately defeating the purpose.

>>37250954
Patience is for bluepilled pussies. Here in america we get what we want, when we fucking want it.

Enjoy starving yourself in memeadam while I tuck into a nice meaty burger.

>>37250973
What ever floats your bloat Amerilad. Islam triggers the American, i;m not forcing you to fast kek

Would rather fast for 30 days then eat American "food" again.

>>37250994
I'm not fucking triggered you bluepilled nu male cuck. That's for tumblrtards, oh, and you can fuck off back there while you're at it you fucking cuck.

>>37251009
KEK
I live in a Muslim country, I go the Gym, I fast during Ramadan.
Calm down lad, cortisol fucks with gains.

>>37251020
fuck off ahmed nobody wants you fucking people on our fucking site!

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>>37251020
>I live in a muslim country
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

GET OFF MY BOARD TERRORIST SCUM

>>37251020
Threads also getting off topic as fuck.
Best advice was from this chap.
>>37246165

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>>37251036
>>37251031

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>>37250973
>>37251036
Incels on 4chan and stormfront are always coping with shit like:
>better start lifting, muh race war is coming, muh nationalism
>cant wait for the day of the rope, thats when i get revenge
>muh euros won't stand for this for too much longer!

While you're waiting from a militia to join, Muhammad and Tyrone are literally being TAUGHT by your politicians HOW TO PENETRATE WHITE WOMEN WELL. LMFAO.

European governments are literally teaching these immigrants how to PLEASE YOUR WHORES. Hell, Merkel would PERSONALLY give them viagra if they needed sexual help. They don't.

In fact, the chances of Europe "saving itself" decrease every single day. Who the FUCK is going to fight in the "race war" anyway? You? European "men"? LMFAO. You have never broken a law in your LIFE.

Say what you want about Muslims, but fighting is INGRAINED in their religion (Jihad) they reproduce at FIVE TIMES the rate of europeans, and the men tend to be low-inhibition and unafraid. And you spend your evenings posting on a forum, convincing yourself you're a warrior because you occasionally pick weights up. Riiight, okay stormfag. I'm sure a few thousand pasty white teenagers will really be able to defeat MILLIONS of Muslims who are so dedicated that they're LITERALLY WILLING TO BLOW THEMSELVES UP FOR THEIR RELIGION.

LMFAO. You better hope there isn't a "race war", because if there was, you would be crushed in SECONDS. What's really going to happen is that your politicians are going to remain loyal to third worlders, white women will continue to date inter-racially/barely have kids, and you'll still be posting on 4chan about "muh white brotherhood". Lmfao.

>30 days without food
>literally eat food every night

>>37251061
What side are gyppos on in the race war?

ALLAH IS A FALSE GOD

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>>37251061

I don't get why you'd lift for a war anyway. Being a soldier is pretty much just endurance.

>>37251138
http://www.news.com.au/national/diggers-defend-killer-commando-who-strangled-taliban-commander/story-fncynjr2-1226593075852

Unless you have to strangle a man to death in hand to hand combat.

>>37251163
>lifting weights
>hand to hand combat
k

>>37242530
>no water for 30 days
what? you'd literally die that can't be right

>>37242889
I don't think /fit/ is for you, baby

>>37251176
oh its just for when the sun is up

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>>37251174
>not thinking beating someone in hand to hand combat requires strength
>not thinking lifting weights = strength

Topkek

>>37251192
Can you bomb anything while the sun is up?

>>37251207
>confirmed never been in a fight

This is the worst thread I have ever seen.

>>37242579
>muslim friends

Kys.

>>37246196
Thanks for the advice. Love you m8.