How bad is getting drunk everyday for gains? I hear it lowers

>>37097295
Bad for muscle gains but good for social gains

>>37097295
pretty fucking bad. once in a while is ok though

>>37097342
/thread

My friends drink every night. They work shitty jobs at a restaurant and then go out for drinks until 3 in the morning. Every night.

Am in the right to try and push them out of my life? I can't go out drinking as I have to be at work at 730 in the morning but if I lose them I don't really have any other friends.

It just seems like they went off the rails these past few months because they've been out of college long enough and theyre not really making any progress. So theyre falling into this habit of either being drunk, being asleep or being at work.

>>37097843
Find other friends before you break it off with them.

>>37097843
That's what I've done for almost 8 years now

>tfw now I have to drink everyday or I'm miserable and shake and sweat
>tfw actual alcoholic

>>37098942
That sucks. Did you realize what you were doing to yourself and just not care?

I mean, i'm not exagerrating here when i say theyve been out at the bars every night for the past 3 months. And then very heavily before then, usualy 5 nights a week.

I think they're both just depressed with their shitty lives they've built for themselves and the only joy they have is going out and drinking with the same people talking about the same shit.

>>37097295
Not bad at all.

Johnny Depp has been an alcoholic for all his life. Yet...he looks like a Greek god. Why? Genetics. Alpha Genetics. You'll have hundreds of IDIOT gymcels on /fit/ claiming genetics don't matter, but your genetics are your LIFE. If you find alcohol doesn't affect you negatively, then you'll be fine.

>>37097295
It depends...can you touch your nose with your tongue? If so then you are probably ok to get drunk everyday.

>>37097295
More than 1-2 drinks a day will have significant ill effects on your overall health

>>37099352
First he does not look like a Greek God
Second he has enough money for whatever cosmetic treatments or surgeries he desires
Third he hasn't aged very well considering the resources he has available

>>37099377
I can do that, why would it be okay to get drunk every day? doesn't alcohol kill gains?

>>37097843
Wasting all that momey on alcohol and going out and they probably wonder why they're making no progress in life.

>>37099352
>he looks like a Greek god.

He looks like a heroin junkie

OP, alcohol is loaded with empty calories, and (TW Broscience) isn't processed by your body the way other macros are. The body works first to remove the alcohol, slowing or preventing proper digestion of other macros, denying you gains

Heroin has a lesser negative effect on your health than alcohol

>>37099129
I didn't realize until it was too late

>>37097342
this

>>37097295
Absolutely necessary for liver gains. After 10-15 years you will have a rock hard and solid liver to show off.

Just stick to MDMA, LSD, and Ketamine OP. Much better for your liver.

>>37097295
Google it.
Protein is processed in the liver, so is alcohol. Alcohol is poison, so that's what your liver is working on.
>say goodbye to all gainz

>>37098942
Iktf man I have seizures when I don't drink

>>37100529
Shrooms is best for yor health (literally no impact except if you have hidden psychic stuff) and most interesting imo. No party drug tho... mdma and stuff will fuck you up longterm

>>37097843
Absolutely. Surrounded yourself with people you aspire to be like. Never be the one fit/wealthy/smart guy in a group, the others will resent you and do their best to hold you back.

>>37098942
Feckin eejit. Wean yourself off. Or take a few months off to go cold turkey.

How much does it fuck with your gains?
I already feel guilty when I drink like 2-3 beers...per week.

>>37097843
don't let them drag you down mate

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>>37100620
>tfw i drank at least 21 beers and 3 shots of rum last saturday
fuck

>>37097295
alcohol is bad for you life. which includes your gains. there are some braindead idiots ITT who claim it's not like that, but it is. it will fuck up your friendships, your relationsships, your healt, your sanity, all you are. it will do that slowly, without you recognizing it at first.
keep your hands off the juice.
this being said, having a couple of drinks once a month is nice. just don't let it get out of hand. and don't ever drink alone or be the most wasted person where you are.

>>37100529
>MDMA
>better for your liver

the fuck m8

>>37099708
Oh fuck off. You can have a single drink every day and be fine. Show me a successful, well adjusted daily user of heroin.

>>37100717
well, he's right.
but mdma fucks up your brain, lsd is actually fine and ketamine makes you need a new exit for your piss before you are 50.

one drink a day can even be beneficial for your health

any more than that and you are risking your gains and your health in general

>>37100753
mdma doesnt fuck up your brain

having 2 grams of mandy a night every weekend for years fucks up your brain

keep it at less than once a month or less and your good.

>>37100753
>well, he's right

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1383078/

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12297982

sure

>>37100841
it does fuck up your brain, you may not notice if you don't dose regularly, but mdma is still neurotoxic

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20420572

I was reading a study a while back that said alcoholics that drank twelve or more drinks a day had their protein synthesis inhibited by over 23%. So, it's pretty bad, but it's not like working out is invalidated by being an alcoholic. Drinking and lifting is still better than just drinking.

>>37100647
counting is always a big red flag for me

why are you keeping a tally on how many beers you had?

>>37100841
yup, you're right. i thought we were talking about some kind of heavy use.

>>37100894
did you read the studies you're citing or did you just google something up to be smartass?

>>37097843
yeah anon, I had to do the same with a lot of my friends. If you wanna get anywhere in life, you have to separate yourself from the losers.

>>37100971
did you?

here, have another (this is actually a book with an abstract about this subject, if you don't feel like clicking on it)

http://www.ingentaconnect.com/contentone/ben/cpb/2010/00000011/00000005/art00009?crawler=true

>>37101027
you didn't answer my question. i just did.
and if you did, which i don't believe, you should learn how making a point in the medical field works.

>>37101071
>anon1 citates a hepatotoxic substance as an alternative to another hepatotoxic substance
>anon2 says this is wrong
>fuckwit1 trying to correct something that shouldn't be corrected because it's true in the first place
>gets btfo with actual information about it
>proceeds to start arguing about ego and gramatics avoiding the main point

every fucking time

also, are you aware that you are the smartass one with that "I know everything about drugs" attitude that you showed here? >>37100753

>>37101027

when you say here have another one you realise they are both the same article, they have the same authors 'Sarkar, Schmued'

>>37101442
I did answer your question then, right?

MDMA is still an hepatotoxic substance

you are trying to look superior over me acting like you read the entirety of every study you come across so my point becomes somehow invalid, when in reality you are just proving in every post that you don't know shit about the actual damage that the drugs we take may cause on our body

you are plain stupid m8

>>37101652
maybe your right anon, its true I don't know the actual damage that the drugs I take cause my body, I mean I don't even test shit. Maybe next week I'll drop PMA and become the anti-drug poster boy.

can you tell me what hepatotoxic means?
what exactly is the danger caused?
is it safe in moderation?

>>37101652
also

>authors of first article -> A J Ellis, J A Wendon, B Portmann, and R Williams

>authors of second article -> Lange-Brock N1, Berg T, Müller AR, Fliege H, Neuhaus P, Wiedenmann B, Klapp BF, Mönnikes H.

>authors of third article -> Carvalho, Marcia; Pontes, Helena; Remiao, Fernando; L. Bastos, Maria; Carvalho, Felix

lmao not even right on that

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>>37101760
dude just stop, I like drugs as much as you or the next guy, pic related is my new batch of shrooms, I'm just stating the fact that mdma shouldn't be consider as a "safer alternative" to drinking alcohol because it causes damage to the liver too, maybe even more than alcohol

stop derailing this shitty argument, stuff your body with whatever the fuck you want and move on

>>37101959
How are the macros on those?

>>37101959
I'm so jelly brah

>>37100473
>tfw you love being able to drink people under the table with ease

I'm an alcoholic but I'm never the guy making a fool of myself because my tolerance is ridiculous

>>37100586

You make me sad anon. Get help.

>>37101981
I was legit discussing this four days ago with a friend lmao

I didn't find any nutritional breakdown on psilocybin mushrooms, but I guess they are more or less like any other shrooms in that aspect. The micronutrients is where is at, nice brain gains with these.

http://lifestyle.iloveindia.com/lounge/benefits-of-mushrooms-1337.html

>tfw mushrooms aren't just paper mache penises full of water
>tfw high in fiber
>tfw more potassium than a banana
>tfw they may help fight cancer
>tfw about 700 species have known medicinal properties used for centuries


>>37102128
they are quite easy to grow bro, why don't you give it a try?

>>37100552
>say goodbye to all gainz
my sides

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11007236
>Body composition changes induced by chronic ethanol abuse: evaluation by dual energy X-ray absorptiometry.
>Alcoholics showed a reduced fat mass and a good preservation of lean body mass with respect to control subjects, and duration of alcohol use and alcohol dose did not seem to influence body composition.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17717682
>Motor performance during and following acute alcohol intoxication in healthy non-alcoholic subjects.
>No change was seen in isokinetic as well as in isometric muscle performance during or following the alcohol intoxication as compared to the non-alcoholic condition.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2299844
>The effect of ethanol on exercise-induced muscle damage.
>It was concluded that acute ingestion of alcohol has no effect on several indicators of exercise-induced muscle damage.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10642377
>Effect of acute postexercise ethanol intoxication on the neuroendocrine response to resistance exercise.
> Concentrations of testosterone, luteinizing hormone, and corticotropin were not affected by either treatment.

alcohol is a shitty drug though. I'd rather be fucked up on codeine, but codeine medications are always mixed with some shit because leftist nanny state

>>37102290
Did you grow them or buy them?

I currently have alcohol as my drug of choice, but that's just because it's easy to get a hold of. I prefer just about anything else because alcohol makes you fat if you have more than a couple a day.

>>37101959
I am genuinely asking these questions
>>37101760
I've heard of serotonin syndrome etc
but this was the first I've heard that just regular low dosage could cause harm

I used to get drunk every day for a long time (years!)

I worked out three times a week too.

After quitting, I made more progress and physical improvement in a month than I had a year.

>>37100593
>>37100640
How impressionable are you faggots that you can't do both? I don't let people control my life and if you just talk to people instead of acting like a child they'll understand.

I have friends who never went to college and I have friends with PHDs

>>37102730
No you didn't bud

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>>37102508
grow them :^) nice as fuck seeing your future highs literally pop up in some rye grains and dirt (coco fiber in my case)

>>37102695
hepatotoxic is something that causes liver damage

https://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mdma/mdma_health.shtml as a summary, you can find more if you take the time

almost everything is safe in moderation anon, just remember you are the one who decides what exactly moderation is, and the one who takes the risks


There are safer drugs out there man, and a lot more enjoyable than molly if you ask me. If I could change the ~10 times I took mdma for a nice trip with shrooms/lsd/2cb/mescaline/ketamine, I would. Two first times were great desu, the rest of them were just something that made me feel dirty and depressed the next day, not worth the trouble.

>>37103256
Where'd you get the spores to grow them? Did you have to go full on dark net and bitcoin? How much is the whole set up?

>>37100962
Al/ck/ bro here

This weirdly made me feel better

Thanks

>>37103256

cheers man, my only fear is that i get heavy anxious/paranoid when I've smoked weed and I worry that transitioning to hallucinogens could fuck me, thinking of trying 2cb then maybe shrooms. acid gives me the fear

>>37103390
You're welcome man.

>>37103297
I'm from Spain, I "bought" them here -> freespore.com (they actually send you prints for free, you just have to send a letter to them with your request). They were 3 years old tho, shitty quality, hard to germinate.

There are better sites to get them, even ones who exclusively dedicate to sell cultivation supplies

http://www.mycospawn.com/?language=en

http://www.shroomsupply.com/

http://www.magic-mushrooms-shop.com/en/

I don't know where you live man but I don't really think you have to get this kind of shit in the deep web to stay safe, just be careful with what you are doing and don't tell anybody (not even your closest friends). It's a relatively safe illegal practice.

Whole setup depends on your goal, around 100€ if you want a steady supply of shrooms, biggest expense is a pressure cooker. There are a lot of alternatives tho, you can grow your own mushrooms for under 50€, only not as many. There are growkits too.

>>37103532
I get it brother, just be careful. I had my share of bad trips too, even though psychedelics are my favourite kind of drugs. It just happens, depends mostly on your mental state, and your company. If you want some advice start with shrooms man, psilocybin is among the nicest psychedelics. Always with low doses, 1-1,5 grams of cracker dry shrooms with an empty stomach, see how it goes for you and work your way up for some heavy trips, if that's what you want. Do it always with your best friends in a comfortable space, or alone. Good luck man

>>37097295
>How bad is getting drunk everyday for gains? I hear it lowers T levels but my test is already high so that's not really an issue
Drinking every day has worst side effects than smoking every day.
Granted, if you are drinking enough water to purify your intake and enough rest and nutrients to repair the damage. It can be a lot less damage over time than smoking. However realistically people do not do this.

Alcohol poisoning
High blood pressure, stroke, and other heart-related diseases
Liver disease
Nerve damage
Sexual problems
Permanent damage to the brain
Vitamin B1 deficiency, which can lead to a disorder characterized by amnesia, apathy and disorientation
Ulcers
Gastritis (inflammation of stomach walls)
Malnutrition
Cancer of the mouth and throat

The list is a lot longer than smoking and the major keypoint for gains is
>heart disease
anything that effects the heart effects gains, high blood pressure restricts bloodflow which leads to eventual testosterone problems as not as much blood is making it to the testicles.
eventual erectile dysfunction soon follows as blood flow and nervous system issues begin.

>>37100712
lol dis nigga wit de after school special. a few a month? wtf? I often drink alone. I am often one of the more drunk people (its hard to tell who is most drunk when your drunk) but i am rarely hungover and often I don't drink at all depending on my mood. I drink when i am happy not to be happy. the trick is to not rely on any substance for happiness

>>37097843
I worked in the service industry for 4 years during uni. Get out ASAP and find a BS corporate job. It's not as fun (obviously) but I enjoy the higher pay, more freedom, and being able to plan for the future.

>>37103866
Wait, does drinking lots of water really help that much? When I drink I always have a cup of water with each drink, and then I'll have anywhere from a quart to a gallon of water before bed.

>>37103853
You seem like a pretty cool dude. I'm not even being sarcastic.

>>37103926
drinking lots of water helps at life man. i believe in that shit 100%

>>37103926
>Wait, does drinking lots of water really help that much? When I drink I always have a cup of water with each drink, and then I'll have anywhere from a quart to a gallon of water before bed.
In the military I was systematically turned into an alcoholic (I rarely drink more than a few beers now, I smoke weed regularly.) we were drinking 30+ beers a night and/or a few 40s since they were cheap as shit.
Regular water intake throughout the day and during my drinking left little damage.
I would regularly wake up still drunk and go on 5+ mile runs.
I pissed like a racehorse all the time.
My issue eventually became Autonomic Nerves as I would stop breathing in the middle of the night.

My kidneys have been checked regularly and I have little to no damage, considering how much I drank for how long.
All thanks to water and good meals.

Also sundays I regularly purged with cranberry juice and gallons of water. Which might have made a difference or might not.

The amount of alcohol isn't usually the issue, it's how long you let it sit in your system.

>>37103853
Wow, thanks man. I was going to try to get into indoor growing weed, but this seems like a less risky idea. I realize that I can't live without a mind altering substance in my life, and I need something with no/virtually no calories to replace alcohol.

If I already have a pressure cooker then would I still be able to cook with it even if I use it for this? Or will it have to be dedicated to growing?

>>37100965
I do it because it's easy to lose track when you're out drinking with friends. I usually try not to have more than 3-5 going out.

>>37103954
thank you anon really appreciate it, you don't usually get this kind of compliments here

if you are the guy asking for shrooms, have this https://mega.nz/#!OssXCKTD!RE6I27zSJtwVL9YflwsX-aTYaJY8cB3CWiJLYbrDBVQ

I actually uploaded it for another anon who was also asking a few days ago, drugs seem to be a recurrent thing here on /fit/ lol. You'll find almost anything you need to know there, it's mostly focused on how to make a greenhouse but the basics are the same for any kind of method you choose. I included quite a few books on general cultivation too. Have fun bro

>>37104054
Interesting. I always drink a lot of water (about a half gallon to a gallon of unsweetened tea + a gallon of normal water) even when not drinking, but I really amp it up when I drink. I also almost never get hangovers, so maybe the water does have something to do with it.

Not doubting you guys at all, but are there any studies behind this or is it more trial and error and educated guesses?

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>>37104145
Nah that wasn't me (the one asking about shrooms), but I agree that you're a cool dude. I really appreciate the help man, looks like I found a new hobby.

>>37104079
It is a lot less risky, and a lot cheaper too.

Yes man, it's completely harmless for your pressure cooker :^) check my previous post, download for mushroomgrowing gains >>37104145

>>37104169
>Not doubting you guys at all, but are there any studies behind this or is it more trial and error and educated guesses?

There are studies on it,
I've seen a few where college students would down a gallon of water on a friday before partying or take three Asprins before bed. It still effects people regularly, but the majority result was always no hangover or quicker recovery time from hangovers.
>http://www.nhs.uk/Tools/Documents/Alcohol%20myth%20buster.htm
Scientifically it makes sense, if you flush all the stuff out of your body before or during your regular sleep patterns you'll have less alcohol to metabolize. If you pass out with a lot of alcohol in you, you'll still be metabolizing it while you're asleep. Which leads to eventual dehydration.

>>37104231
Oh yeah, I always take 800 mg of ibuprofen before bed when I drink heavily after reading something about hangovers being part inflammatory pain and part dehydration. It helps a ton even when I go completely balls out, and I virtually never get hangovers between that and high water intake. I found eating something salty before bed helps a lot with being hydrated as well.

Thanks for the link man.

>>37104272
I don't drink many gatorades, but i'm a sucker for Glacier.
At the end of a long night of drinking I down the whole thing, seems to help.

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>>37104197
my pleasure bro

>>37097843
I'm 28, all of my friends did the same and most of them have pretty shitty lives now. Only just recently have some of them smartened up.

>>37104530
Alpha males unlike u

>>37099477
and you know they are voting for bernie sanders

>tfw you work at a brewery and everyone drinks after shift
>tfw all of your coworkers spend all of their time planning brewery trips or going to beer bars
>tfw you would drink 2x a week max and now it's at least a beer or two every shift.

At least I still run and lift. My dad is an alkie so I definitely need to keep it under wraps.

>>37097843

If you're early mid twenties I'd def hang with them sometimes. Those service industry parties are filled with some good pussy.

>>37097295
>alcoholism
Never going to make it.
Better get into AA, son.

>>37106193

What brewery do you work for?

>>37107169
Curious myself.

>>37097295
If you drink less than 10 a day you're fine

>>37099477
>tfw live in ontario
>tfw spend 25 dollars or more a day on alcohol

alcohol is expensive as fuck here, on just cigarettes and alcohol I'm spending 40 bucks a day

>>37106541
>not drinking heavily

not gonna make any social gains brah

>>37110582
10 everyday is bordering on alcoholic man

>>37097295
>thinks he has high test when he's drunk everyday

I've got bad news son

>>37110915
>b-b-b-but muh high test womyn

>>37106193
2 drinks a day doesn't even count as drinking you faggot

>>37110972
This

It doesn't count unless you're getting blackout drunk. Why even drink if you aren't going to get hammered?

I've been drinking on average 15 beer a day for 2 years, do you think my test got lowered dramatically because of it?

>>37111012
What's your cup size titty boi

>>37111094
I don't have tits I'm skinny

>tfw 6'1" 135lbs

>>37111012
Do you get boners still? If so your test is high

>>37111173
I get boners all the time

Just posting this shows that you aren't serious about your training one fucking bit.

>>37111464
>implying this board isn't full of trolls
>implying more than 10% of posters have even lifted a weight
>implying 4chan isn't full of alcoholics and drug addicts

anyone who takes any post seriously on this site is autistic

>>37104054
>30+ beers a night
>drinking 15L of liquid a night
>when hard liquor is available
Jesus, military fags are retarded.

>>37112275
Beers better m8

>tfw you're hungover as fuck everyday but can't quit getting wasted every night

>>37097843
If your friends are drinking too much, maybe you should ask them if they're ok

>>37113185
Why wouldn't they be? People who don't drink alot need to be asked if they're ok because if they aren't drinking they probably have an ulcer or something wrong

>>37113185
One claims he's depressed and apparently the other complains about women not liking him at 3 oclock in the morning alone at the bar.


I mean I try with them. I found some job openings at good companies (that I work with personally) and they just weren't interested in leaving their waiter jobs. They expect to make at least 15$ an hour because thats what they roughly make as a waiter and I just think they have their expectations to high for themselves. They have 0 work experience outside of the service industry and these places aren't going to be paying some punk kids (theyre 25 and 26) 50k a year off the bat.

They got real salty with me a few weeks ago about shit like this. I told them one time that not everyone can make 100k a year, you have to manage your expectations in life. This was months ago and theyre still salty about it because I make 100k a year and they think they can do what I do.

>>37113524
What do you do?

>>37113624
Gay porn.

>>37113672
I figured it would be something like that because in order to make 100 a year you gotta be a lawyer or the damn president, that's way too much money for anyone to make in a year, nobody deserves 100 a year unless they're doing back breaking labor 80 hours a week

>>37097295

Having a drink every day is not a problem. Getting drunk every day is.

>>37113724
How so? Why have one when you can have 20? Might better get drunk because there isn't any point in having a couple

>>37100965
So you can track your macros?

>>37113715
This

People who sit in an office all day make more than people doing hard work out in the sun all day and it's totally wrong

>>37113770
Oh yeah its fucked how the world works. People building houses and shit should make way more than someone who sits in an air conditioned building doing fuck all

>>37113624
>>37113715
>>37113770
I'm an accountant.

I work everyday from 7:30 - 5:00 and then roughly 3 nights a week I will put in roughly 1-3 hours in after 8pm (which is when I finish my workout and dinner). I'm not saying I deserve this much, but it's how much I make and I don't exactly feel terrible about it.

My friends look at me, see what i have and just resent me for it. When I try to help them they get incredibly defensive (as I am sure most people would if they thought you were attacking them) and start bitching and moaning about what I have.

I just want them to lead better lives, not for me but for themselves. They're at an important time in their lives and they are completely fucking up. They don't have any savings, they lack the effort to look for a better job and they just don't seem to care at the moment.

If they wait till theyre in their 30's to be adults theyre going to be so far behind everyone else I don't think theyll be able to do it.

I feel like I am looking down on them and judging but I just want whats best. I tried a few times to talk to them but we ended up arguing. That's why I am thinking after I move into my new house I just drop them and hope it works out for them.

>>37113770
>>37113829
The difference is that one of these jobs can be done by almost anyone, while the other requires a good education.

The people who do not have to work hard physically did pay attention in school and work hard mentally.

That is not true for everyone and all of these jobs, but for a good majority.

>>37113844
100k a year is way too much for someone who doesn't even go home sore and sunburnt

>>37113871
Should get paid by how many calories you burn in a day fuck I'd be rich compared to the lazy ass judge and lawyer who do fuck all

>>37113882
Sometimes I fap to hard and my dick hurts or ill have sex with a hooker and it burns when I pee (I work from home, so I do these things regularly during the work day).

I got sunburnt the other day when I took off at 3 in the afternoon to go play some golf with my brother.

>>37113871
>done by almost anyone

Top kek I'd like to see most of you Carey bundles of shingles up a ladder all day

>mfw they'd be whining 10 minutes in how it's too hard
>mfw I've seen hundreds of people quit before the days even done because the works too hard

>>37113917
That's nothing compared to moving drywall and shingles 12 hours a day up stairs and ladders in dusty hot as fuck conditions

>>37113871
I don't know a lot of people who can dig trenches all day. Not many people can do what I do

>>37113917
>work from home

that's not real work

>>37113871
>work hard mentally

Oh its so hard using your brain huh

>>37114004
I get paid in real money though.

>>37114028
For some people, it apparently is. Otherwise you would sit in an office and make $100k easily ;)

>>37114031
Yeah for doing nothing, you're pretty much a welfare bum because you don't even work

>>37114043
That works too lazy

>>37114049
Are you salty now too? I don't understand why people get upset at what other people have.

I'm sorry you have to work for 12$ dragging shingles up and down ladders all day. My name isn't Pablo or Juan, so I work a normal job that doesn't kill my back or spirit.

>>37114043
don't you feel guilty for getting paid to not actually work?

>>37114080
You wouldn't be able to do actual work you'd be crying 20 minutes in

>>37112275
>hard liquor
hard liquor is more expensive when you're buying the shittiest beer you can imagine from the corner shop in mass bulk to the point the store actually has no more alcohol.
http://www.wral.com/fort-bragg-restricts-alcohol-sales/5656347/
We would roll up on a friday afternoon with a truck, all go in and buy 2-3 packs and than load them in the truck to take to the barracks.
If you care to think about the sheer amount of tequila needed to achieve the same level of drunkeness at nearly three times the cost.
You would of been a beer drinker also.
Before and after deployments kegs would have to be ordered and would be taken to the houses of our off base friends since they were illegal to have in the barracks.

>>37114106
My first job was being the hired bitch at a trucking company. Lugging around tires, changing oil, greasing the fifth wheel and letting a 60 year old nigger who couldn't put together a coherent sentence boss me around for 8 hours a day.

I really don't have any sympathy for you. You're exactly where you should be

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>>37114127
>nearly three times the cost.
I'd pay 20 times more if it meant not having to drink 15 liters

>>37114049

"Work" =/= labor

Value is the important metric, what kind of value you can provide

>>37114165
That's alot better work than what youre doing now, at least it's physical work and not sitting behind a computer ripping people off

>>37114185
People who don't do trades don't have any value to the real world, where would you be if nobody built houses or cars lmao

>>37114190
Someone has to do what I do and someone has to do what you do. Better I do what I do and you do what you do.

>>37114205
>where would you be if nobody built houses or cars lmao

We'd be 15 years in the future.

>muh trade skool

When will this meme die? Humans don't need to work with their hands anymore. We use our brains and let the machines/third world shitholes do our manual labor.

>>37114209
Nobody needs an accountant

>>37114205

>trades are the only value

You poor, simple man

We are in the information age and I'm sure you can't even grasp the kind of things you can produce through a computer, that thing you're using right now to send instant communication over a network of wires

>>37114230
You don't. I'm sure Turbotax works fine for how complicated your taxes are.

When you have over 10 million receivables things are a little more complicated than checking boxes in an app.

>>37114245
>doing taxes

top kek

>>37114205
And do you know who designed these houses or cars? That's right, people who "don't have any value to the real world".

Alcohol literally denatures protein. Tears it apart. So, it's bad for gains.

>>37114264
We're not talking about that anymore. That part of the thread has been settled.

Where do you stand on manual labor v white collar work?

>>37114257

This dumb cuck has the gall to mention car manufacture when 90% of the building is done by machines and 100% of the design is done by engineers on computers lol

>>37114177
>I'd pay 20 times more if it meant not having to drink 15 liters
Bruh, we were young soldiers.
Not fucking rich college kids.
We were the dumbasses of society.
I could not afford to buy that much alcohol with what I was getting paid.

I remember my first time going to a party when I finally got into college, dude just pulls out pounds of weed. Apparently his parents paid for all his bills and he just moved in with a bunch of friends so he just used the money to buy weed.

>mfw i'll never be a qt college student whos parents pay for me.

>>37114257
I have to do the blueprints all the time for houses, people who don't build the houses have no clue how to make a blueprint

>>37114295

>what are architects

I'm sure they pull aside Jack the Builder to compose the blueprint for the Burj Khalifa

>>37114313
Obviously they do since he's the one who builds it

>>37114295
And im sure most of the low level workers who actually construct the house don't understand how to read the blueprints either. You have a construction manager divy out the work loads.

>>37114350
Not when you're self employed m80

>>37114340

No, they don't. They let guys educated and trained in the specific field of architecture do it, since they understand much more than the guy who only knows how to put the pieces together sequentially.

>>37111012
>>37111130

You drink an absolute minimum of 1400 calories a day solely from beer and you're trying to tell us you're skinny?

I'm hammered right now and it's not even 4 pm kek

>>37114369
1400 calories are just 1.4 kcal, pal. That's nothing.

>>37114368
You have no clue how it works

>>37114281
I'm a realtor. I make 70K a year basically sitting on my ass or touring houses. I make my own schedule. I didn't need any schooling.

Shit's great.

>>37114395

You're just being contrary bubs

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the amount of salty trades people in this thread

canadian first responder master race
>100k/year
>girls love the uniform
>gives me something to do with my life
>cool stories, not a 9-5 sitting on my ass job
>have responsibilities you will never have

>>37114462
Beta job

The amount of beta non physical workers ITT is baffling

Your obs aren't /fit/ at all you lazy cucks

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>>37114470
not really. I don't make money for anyone and I live my own dream.

plus girls love firefighters

why don't you go count my taxes like a good little drone :^)

>>37114496
COP master race

>>37114496
Doing taxes is the most beta job ever I'm a roofer son

>>37114496
He's not the accountant, im the accountant.

I don't care what you do. 100k a year, at that point it doesnt matter. Good for you.

>>37114517
>thinks 100k per year is alot

pleb drywall installers make that

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>>37114509
lol I did roofing for a summer to pay for first year of EMT school. such a shite job.

It's tough to do that every day.

Great Job!

>>37114554
No shit but those installers actually have to do physical work that's why they get paid so well

>>37114517
most good tradesmen make that much easy

>>37105941
lol whatever you need to think bud

I've nearly got my house paid off :^)

>>37114598
good job
Im proud of you :)

>>37114585
>>37114554

lmao drywallers don't make 100k/yr without working like 2500 hours you fuckin idiots

>>37114586
Trades make a shit ton of money especially if self employed, I can make 400 dollars in 10 minutes

>>37114586
if you believe this you're an idiot

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>Ph.D. in Math
>any job I want
>$300k starting

>>37114681
This

>>37098942
>>37100586

Actually get help, if you go to a clinic or ask a doctor they will give you benzos for a week or two that stop the sweats/seizures. Then you taper off and dont drink again.

>>37114681
>>37114686
whew i sure wish i was doing math right now

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>>37114681
>Kissless virgin neet
>any tendies I want
>$800 a month neetbux

>>37097843
Have you tried going out with them and not drinking, then drive yourself home earlier for work. Real friends wouldn't have a problem and would just enjoy the company, bad friends would hound on you to drink.

>>37114722
Lmfao

>>37114749
The point is to get hammered and have fun

>>37114106

You sound poor. Anyone can do your job, very few people can be an accountant. Supply and demand, take a basic econ class moron

>>37113715
>>37113770
>>37113829
>>37113882

Construction workers and laborers should probably make more, but some (not all) indoor jobs require a lot of intelligent, talent and education. Also their job is often way more important on a grand scheme as in Doctors, technicians, lab workers, researchers, etc

>>37114947
If you crunch the numbers you will find that a young man that enters a trade and begins working right out of high school and progresses through the trade quickly will remain above a man who goes to med school and becomes a doctor in terms of net income for a much longer time than you'd think.

I'm talking like they are both in their 40's when the doctor pulls ahead.

>>37097342
What if I drink alone?

>>37114979
I drink alone all the time

>>37113882
not at all. Your job can be done by anyone who needs the money desperate enough to endure the suck. Not everyone can be a competent accountant.

>>37115374
Yeah they could accounting is easy as fuck compared to labor jobs, not many people can handle a labor job

>>37115396
Not handle is different from not understand. Takes a lot less time to train a unskilled laborer than an accountant. If its so easy why aren't you one making 100k? Labor jobs are easier to train/find people for therefore you get paid less even though you sweat more.

>>37115418
Its way harder to do any labor job than it is to be an accountant, people these days have frail little cuck bodies and can't do it

>>37115474
>labor
Enjoy being replaced by a robot

>>37115525
>implying a robot will ever be able to do what I do

>>37115525
If you're the accountant your job is already done by robots, enjoy enemployment soon my man

>Hey /fit/ is alcohol bad for my gain?
>lmao I drink like 10 beers every night.
>I'm a Navy Seals seargant and drink 30 every night.
>I do 40! Also I'm a CEO.
>Oh yeah? I live in a beer barrel!

>>37115563
Everyone on this fucking board is a CEO, an entrepreneur and a millionaire.

Fascinating.

>>37115637
With a 9 inch dick for safe measure

>>37115637
This

>>37115637
More like everyone is NEET living with parents, anyone who says they work or have their own place is lying

>>37115637
Don't forget that they also double majored in biochemistry and athletic science.

>>37116574
Nobody would brag about going to university or having a desk job on a fitness board

You'd think everyone here would be some kind of laborer because they're the most /fit/ jobs

>not getting paid to workout

u dun goofd m8s

>>37116699
This

>tfw my job is harder than any workout you can do