/owg/ happy lu edition

ITT: Roleplaying manlets who scatter their things all over the gym

literally a memesport

>>37062114

>people actually believe this

delete this now

>>37062194
Im a manlet and actually believe it .

>>37062194
it's true though

>>37062222

>2222

I'm not a manlet though.

I wish I was. Then I would actually be good at this sport.

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knee is feeling better by the day. It's already costed me 1100$ in lost time and doctors notes though.... Anyway I'm eating my way up to 100kg now so I can be technically obese.

>>37062260

>wearing a belt

senpai.....

>>37062275
>being this stupid

>>37062366

>ever wearing a belt on anything other than max out squats

It's like you don't want to develop your erectors at all. kek

how to git gud in jerk?
started wl ~ 3 months ago
>75kg clean
>60kg jerk
wot do

Anyone have a link to the takano book? I don't wanna pay for that shit

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>>37062070

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>>37062758

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>>37062771

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>>37062778

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>>37062788

>>37062758
Do you only know about lu and klokov lmao

>>37062798
what do you expect from someone that doesn't actually workout?

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>>37062798

Just posting Lu cause it's thematic. Who do you want?

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>>37062809

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>>37062818

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>>37062833

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>>37062847

>>37062847
is 4.5 inches too small?

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>>37062864

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>>37062876

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>>37062892

>>37062758
>>37062771
>>37062778

Why is Lu so kawaii? :3

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>>37062902


>>37062865

I don't know how much an inch is tbqh

>>37062918
=11.43 cm

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>>37062918

>>37062918
2.54cm

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>>37062934

>>37062924

You'll be fine.

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>>37062971

>>37062971
is 18cm too big?

>>37062971
a-are you just saying that to make me feel better

>>37062995
ree

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>>37062983

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>>37063007

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>>37063034

>>37063053
Trappy can I bury my face in your ass

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>>37063053

>>37063093

Only if you download DS1/2/3 :3

>>37063003

11.4cm is completely functional, and sex/pleasure is a lot more than just benis length really.
Besides, they all look big when they're up on your face.

>>37062995

No, it's good.

Has that CJ cummings kid already hit his peak?

He hasn't progressed in over a year, and looks like hes regressed a bit.

Is his career over?

>>37063444
Gains aren't linear anon

>>37063304
Watch your words trappy I just got paid and can buy all three games now
My nose in your poop chute is a very proximate reality

>>37063732

His technique is so bad I don't see him hitting 180kg clean and jerk for years.

>>37063764
HIS TECHNIQUE IS UNIQUE
IT WORKS FOR HIM AND IT WORKS FOR AMERICA
Cj is old and stale harrison maurus is hottest new meme lifter

>>37063764
you better suck my dick if he does this weekend

>>37063785

his career will be over when he tears both biceps and slips a disc in his back lmfao!

>>37063793

bitchmade boy couldnt eben hit 170 couple months ago

alex lee looks good for 185 though. Lee will go to the olympics, cj will sit his bitchmade nigger ass back home.

see you in china m8

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>tfw peer pressured into a 93% fs double this morn

rip my deload

also it felt pretty good even though my upper back rounded quite a bit

>>37062399
Bad bait

>>37062455
Train more jerks senpai

why is dimas at the usa olympic trials/nationals

>>37064134
Doesn't he live out there? and i guess he like weightlifting

That or maybe he is there to merk Mattie Rodgers bumole

Heyo, commie, when/if you get in: did you build that platform in your garage? If so, did you use a blueprint or just slap it together based on what looked right?

I guess this question applies to anyone else that has built a platform for their home gym. Looking for plans/ideas for a sound-dampening platform. I've found a few models online, but I'm curious about other people's experiences, preferences, etc.

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>>37062758
>you will never rim Xiaojun's toned and firm butthole after he sets a WR
Why even fucking live?

>>37064188

10/10 would merk tho tee bee aych lad.

>>37064188
>Doesn't he live out there?

no, when klokov met him at 2015 worlds dimas said he can barely speak english

https://barbend.com/pyrros-dimas-us-olympic-trials-salt-lake-city/

>>37064802
I would eat the ass

>>37064656
http://www.catalystathletics.com/article/1895/How-to-Build-a-Weightlifting-Platform/

i basically did this but slight differences

>>37064910
Who knows then

>>37065026
i already linked u why, u fucking idiot

trappy is cancer. pls go away

>>37062260
Youre just a powerlifter playing weightlift.

Your form is shit and you refuse to work on it.

>>37065191
he's stronger than u, u fucking jelly weak fuck

do you think his form would improve if you tell him to make a change every day?

>>37065094
Chill out nerd. We aren't all autism gergor from ay tee gee about this shit

>>37065196
>do you think his form would improve if you tell him to make a change every day?
yes

He could have represented us, instead hes being a little bitch and not working on tech.

>>37065245
I agree dutkz could be v good if he cleaned up his tech and put as much into tech as he did squat but calling him a powerlift playing weightlifter is petty and shitty and you sound jelous

Like one of those guys who is like 'oh he lifts more but my tech is nice he's shit haha' it doesn't matter m8 u don't get points for style

>>37065276
its not about style, its about efficiency. his pull/squat to classic transition is so shit. He could be better.

>>37065326
Yes no shit. But you've called him out in a cuntish way and it makes you seem jelly

>>37065368
>makes you seem jelly
Ok and? I'm obviously not jelly if I want him to succeed.

>>37065379
The way you said he was a powerlifter pretending to be a weightlifter is a constructive way to show advice or support you retard

pas pls dont bully pat mendes

>>37065747
^

>>37062792
>>37062788

I wonder how well he'd do if he limited his rom.

>>37065821
What do u mean

>>37065793
Why are you defending a cheater?

>>37066025
why even watch sports amirite

>>37065498
its 4chan , my friend

Ive been trying to do 10-15 mins of non stop lunges for cardio, with some static handstand and pull-up work. First week in and i enjoy the sweat/leg pump i get from it but it's been cutting into my lifting, i think i just need to adjust to the volume.


Pros
>can do it at home
>don't need to go out into the blazing sun
>don't have to drive 15 min to the gym
>great cardio/volume builder

Cons
>it's been cutting into my lifting day
>i hope i don't grow a horse ass or build up imbalances

>>37066629
no one gives a shit you weak fuck stop posting this

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Who's kid is this ?

>>37062864
>>37062847
>>37062833
>>37062818

>continues to post more meme lifters

trappy pls go

>>37062983
i made this webm stop posting it cunt

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Hi guys..... girls. Ive recently got an 80kg power snatch, can I get a pat on the back?

>>37065191
>lifts more then you

Guess you're the fake weightlifter until you post your vids. It's called weightlifting. Not technique circlejerk

>>37066892
Nope, I power snatched 100kg without being a fatass,

>>37066892
martha just power snatched it too heheh

>>37066899

Dubs confirms, it's back to the basement for me.


>>37066910
Martha? M8 i don't fuck old women.

im doing it lads

goodbye split jerk

hello meme jerk (squat jerk)

>>37066991
dont do it you have so much to live for

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>>37066991

Make sure to put a dildo on the platform to keep you from dipping too much.

>>37066997

commi have you ever gotten ankle pain in the front of your ankle when you bend it or touch it?

>>37067073
i get pain on the side or on the front if i do that sit on feet leg stretch

but not for no reason

>>37067087

I have it right now and it's really bothering me... what do?

>>37067100
ask pas or something

probably go easy on it

try to not do running shit

>>37067112

what is that sit on feet leg stretch you are talking about? I probably do it and I'll stop if this shit happens

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>>37067116
i feel like it keeps the knee pain away

i normally sit more upright and dont actively do anything with feet. just lean back

>>37067138

so I SHOULD do it or I SHOULDNT

>>37067154
if you're the ankle pain guy dont do it

just take it easy and ask someone else probably

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>>37067168

ok

ur my new best friend

>>37067183
do u want to be training buds

>>37067204

yes but ur too strong for me i keep getting injured and change my technique:(

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>>37066991
i want to join you

>>37067342
better listen to deliuge then

>>37067342
>>37067365

how do I keep that tightness in the bottom position of the clean so I can explode out of the hole like a regular front squat??

>>37067388
i'm obviously not the one to ask about that

>>37067418

I always get crushed and then every single clean is a grind. Not explosive like a front squat. It doesn't matter if I'm cleaning 60kg to 100kg. It's all the same speed

Seriously something fucked up that I need to fix. I would love to know how because it drains me for the jerk.

>>37067388
by learning how to pull under properly and racking the clean perfectly so it doesnt crash on you

do the muscle clean

https://www.instagram.com/p/BEbR5Zfpt6I/

examples of how to pull the bar into the shoulders properly no matter how high you pull it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bIY0tE_oVo

https://www.instagram.com/p/BBfsu45Dqlo/

Just measured wingspan. 6'3"

>>37067973
just measured my dick size is 3

>>37068159
3 meters?

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>>37065918

He means he wonders how well Lu would do if you saw off both of his legs.

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>>37066974
this is martha. relatively unknown lifter for those retarded like u r

no one actually post her by me bcos no one knew she strong?

>>37067429
It could be that you pull the bar too high (use too much arms and traps) so the moment you drop under the bar, it crashes on you

Beginners have the tendency to pull the bar up to them, when you should just pull it to navel height and then explode under it

>>37069542
Disgusting blocky core

Shit tier wlfu

>>37069542
Really looks like Mattie is packing heat in this webm... Trappy isn't unique anynore Hehehehe' ;^)

>>37069997
Um no. Literally no good coach ever will tell you to short your pull. 'Only pull to bell button and go under' is just a meme

You should catch the bar where you catch it. Meet the bar. Never shorten you pull

Smh senpai

https://www.youtube.com/user/kirksman/videos?view=0&sort=p&flow=grid

does anyone else enjoy watching chinese martin shkreli's videos?

>>37063806
>>37063785
Doesn't he train at the olympic training center? Or does he have a SPECIAL coach.

>>37066997
What do you mean lad?

As someone who wants to build more positional strength and move to WL soon.

Snatch or Clean deadlifts?
How many times per week if I squat 3x? Just once heavy controlled?
Reps/Sets?

>>37071522
Snatch and clean deadlift
Light weight until you hit correct pos
Increase weight aslong as you still maintain position. 5x3 or something

Soviets had a formula of what % of snatch your snatch deadlift should be
Something like 146% as they believe the excess in strength in positions was key to successful lift

I don't have the document on phone but might post later if anyone interested

>>37062809
>pat pat on chest
>right in the feels
>"you feel that guys, right?"

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>>37063034
YES BLIET, HAHA OU OU

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she strong and so qt

there's also the other 48kg who set the cj record that's also a jailbait qt3.14

OWG PLS

I see some people hitting the bar to their thighs / hip and after that you hear this bump sound and the bar gets in the air. Then again some people seem to smoothly slide the bar until it gets into the air

As a beginner this is confusing me. Who is doing it right?

>>37072903
Why do American women always wear shit singlets

>>37073150
Both can be right. Even where you hear and see a 'bump' it is not the banging that puts the bar 'into the air'

>>37073187
Thank you :3

>>37073176
because its free

>>37069997
shut the fuck up trappy

>>37074063

>everyone giving good advice is now trappy

I like this new meme.

>>37074167
no one cares deliuge

>>37071058
meme jerk is a meme for a reason

>new to oly
>feel fine after workouts
>today wake up at night, shoulders in immense pain, take aspirin for first time in years
what did i probably do wrong?

>>37062902
wow his form is pretty shit ;|

>>37074267
U did oly

>>37074267
You probably thought that "im an oly lifter now" and did a horrible workout with horrible form

>>37074167
Please tell me how telling someone to shorten their pull is good advice

Lmao you clearly don't lift either

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>>37074417

This is literally basic level weightlifiting.

https://youtu.be/MXfkEW9WVNU?t=2m39s

>>37074063

Not even me, but I appreciate you keep me in mind like this all the time <3

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>>37074302

His snatch is worse kek

But he's pretty stronk... and won the competition.

Though if he cleaned his technique (and wasn't banned) he would be able to reach way higher numbers.

>>37074971
klokov teaches it there but it's not very good to teach, normally people teach pulling as high as possible

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>>37075075

Teaching to pull as high as possible has its purpose.
Teaching to control the height of the pull also has its purpose.

Both things should be taught and mastered, in my opinion.

>>37075126
And your opinion is shit because you don't lift

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>>37075131

And you surely know a lot more than Klokov and russian coaches.

>>37075163
russian coaches teach a full pull though

klokov is pretty much the only one that doesnt

>>37075163
Trappy y u love klok so much

>>37075163
Appeal to authority don't work fuck boy

>>37075163
>posts one example of Klok teaching it
>hurrrr klokov and all the russian coaches teach it!!!!!!
You are a cancer

>>37075163
>i will never fall asleep with trappy in my arms
hurts to live

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>mfw all this trappy-hate just because he knows way more about lifting than 90% of this board without even lifting

what's your excuse you illiterate lazy faggets?

>>37075326
But does she know chinese memes

>>37075326
Constantly linking videos and stuff that you googled doesn't equal knowledge fucktard

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>>37075221

AFAIK they teach both. And so does Klokov.

The point of teaching to control the height of the pull in the context of the clean, is that:

1: Allows the trainee to practise catching the bar low instead of only power cleaning + front squat
2: Allows the trainee to develop proprioception of his body and the bar
3: Helps the trainee develop the technique necessary to not get crushed by the bar on every catch he does

In the context of the snatch, it also is important for training the bar path.

Not saying you shouldn't teach the trainee to pull as high as possible, though.
Both are important to develop strength, power, and technique.

Just my opinion, though. Weightlifting is a complicated issue and there are coaches around the world that all disagree with each other. There's no truth or cookie cutter answer to any of these issues, really.
See Godelli as an example >>37075010
He has far from what most people would consider "good technique", and is still able to win the WWC.

Every coach has its own methodology, and we've seen good results from people trained by coaches who use completely different methods and systems.
Just like with programming.

>>37075264

And your ad hominem sure does.
You should read up on fallacies before namedropping them.

>>37075369
All of the things you listed can be done while still teaching how to finish the pull

U just don't know what u talmbout

>>37075341
>she
>>37075326
>implyeng

>>37075420

Here's your (you)

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>>37075369
personally i'd teach a full pull and then past that i only care about the athlete lifting to maximum

>>37075451

I remember you complaining about getting crushed by your clean catching.
So there's that.

>>37075451
if you trained with uncle and he gave you dat dere would you take it? shouldn't you be popping winny and dbol to do proper bulgarian anyway?

>>37074971
If you think that drill is to teach you only to pull to your belly button then 'dive under it' you've taken the wrong message

Literally EVERY coach will tell you to meet the bar where you meet it. Have you ever watched a good lifter warm up? See how they power there early lifts and squat them?

You should never cut your pull short. If you start cutting your pull with bitch weights, guess what will happen when you get to heavier weights...

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>>37075553

You can see many lifters, including Lu, cutting the bar height short here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGe1TAp107U

>>37075163
Trappy, all Russian and Soviet coaches teach/taught a full pull

It's the most important part of the lift. You won't find anyone except that one klokov video you love to cite (which is aimed at crossfitters not weightlifters) who teach a cut pull

The Chinese have also done studies about this, about what height the bar should be pulled for a successful lift, and it's WAY higher than navel height

Sorry, but it isn't basic weightlifting 101 just because klokov said it. Expand your knowledge before you say stupid shit or you're just gonna get mud slinger at you like every time you pass off a klokov YouTube as the only true method

>>37075600
lmao that webm

>>37075623

>Trappy, all Russian and Soviet coaches teach/taught a full pull

Exactly what I said.

>>37075326
Watching klokov videos doesn't mean she knows shit

She literally can't cite an actual coach (she's probably never had one either)

But sure, follow her advice, cut your pull short. Probably won't matter for your 40kg snatch anyway lmao

>>37075650
>she
I want this meme to die

>>37075600
As you get better you can control the pull better and pull where you want to, that's what's he's doing not cutting the pull short idiot

>>37075600
I'm not sure you know what an incomplete pull looks like

>>37075672
>>37075677

You are arguing about completely different things, then.

>>37075648
You said as far as you know (source; your ass) they teach both

They don't. They teach one pull. A complete pull.

>>37075687

And your source is?
Trappy at least posted Klokov. You're just shitposting.

>>37075684
We are arguing with the original point

(Only pull to navel and explode under) which is wrong

Just because you misunderstood again and jump in to defend that statement isn't our fault lad

So, just like last week, trappy weighs in on a technical discussion, is wrong, then blames everyone else for her misunderstanding of terms and technique

When will this shit stop.

Deli can't you give her someone other than klokov (who isn't a coach) to learn from?

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>>37075703

>(Only pull to navel and explode under) which is wrong

This is an assistance exercise with a very specific purpose.
Saying something is "wrong" is plain rubbish. Are muscle snatches "wrong" too? And tall snatches? All wrong, of course.

>Just because you misunderstood again and jump in to defend that statement isn't our fault lad

No, you're assuming I made a point I did not make.

>>37075701
My own experience with my own coach (who learnt undr Soviet coaches)

Ma strength has numerous things concerning % of height on his insta

You can Google for Soviet texts about the pull in snatch and clean

I'm not gonna Google it for you on my phone, because if you actually lifted and had a decent coach you'd realise you shouldn't need an article or a YouTube video anyway

But sure, cut your pull short. Good luck.

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>>37075480
yeah
>>37075539
i'd take it

i dont know enough about ped or how to pass tests with them in your system to take them though

>>37075623
>The Chinese have also done studies on this
lol

>>37075748
I'm talking about the initial point, he clearly didn't mean it as an assistance exercise. He meant tht as 'this is how you pull' which jsnt true

I'm sure klokovs drill has its place but this isn't it.

I have trouble with my confidence whilst learning power cleans getting under the bar. Generating the power to get 80kg isnt so much of a problem, but anything over 40kg I always bitch out and catch it high in my hands. Anyone else have this problem? Always feel like im gonna overbalance backwards or catch the bar on my clavicles and smash them up. Any tips? Or is it a case of practice practice practice?

>>37075751

This is why I love /owg/
The autismo here has no brakes.

>>37075766
They have tho m8

Ur not king of Chinese lifting ukno that?

>>37075778
It's pretty autistic to resort to calling someone autistic just cos you feel sore that you're a weak faggots ;^)

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>>37075774

Sure, but that original point wasn't mine, though. I never even quoted it.

>>37075751

Here's your (you)

Chinese teach to pull only as high as you need to btw
No point in yanking as high as you can

Also where you meet the bar has hardly anything to do with crashing
It has more to do with how you execute the pull under

>>37075796
u kno more about untranslated chinese texts than i do?
sho me the studies m8y :^)

>>37062455
Isolated Jerks, behind the neck Jerks and push press senpai

>>37075801
trappy where's my (You)

>>37075801
Dank meme lad

Also, I know you didn't say it, but you waded in with 'oh this is basic weightlifting 101 blah blah' when people pointed out it was bad advice

That's why people jumped all over you, because it sounded like you agree with the originally bullshit sentiment. Ya dig?

>>37075811
Ask coach ma he might send u them too ;^)

Itt: trappy involved in another derailing, again

So i can comfortably snatch, jerk, overhead squat and all that jazz but I'm getting pain in my right shoulder from behind the neck jerks. Flares up even with just the bar.
I'm guessing i probably need to roll it stretch and work on my shoulder and more mobility, but has anyone else had similar issues/ any advice for it?

>>37076012
Don't do them

>>37076090
ever again?

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>>37075964

>conversations about weightlifting technique on /owg/ is derailment

You should try /r/fitness, they have pretty good no-trappy safespaces.

>>37075823

<(You)3

>>37076136
Trappy time for supa srs talk
do u acually lift?
if so, numbers pls

>>37076136
You just should've figured by now your presence causes shit, you have haters who will never listen and whiteknights who will always jump to your defence

You don't discuss, you put forward statements then argue you're way around criticism. This isn't discussion.

It's pretty selfish of you to insist on tripping when you don't really offer anything other than klokov videos. I think you enjoy the drama desu

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>>37076242

bw 47kg
total test lvl +-9 ng/dl
Lowbar Squat 90kg
Front Squat 71kg
Clean & Jerk 68kg
Snatch 57kg
Power Clean 57kg
Power Snatch 48kg

>>37076275

Here's your (you)

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>>37076242

Dat bich squat 800 pound.

>>37076304
any proof?

>>37076304

>>37076275 is right you know. you would get less people disagreeing with you if you took your trip off

>>37076304
Exactly my point, you can't discuss or take criticism, you resort to memes and goal post moving. Immature attention seeker you are.

Also you were asked for your lifting numbers, not you test. You did that to yourself, noone cares, you still suck.

>>37076304
proof pls. I doubt you've added 10+ kg to your snatch since you last posted your numbers.

Also

>lowbar squat

Lmao

>>37069997

>explode under it

That don't make no sense.

Explode UP, (then) PULL under.

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>>37076353

This >>37069997 wasn't even me and people were already crying about me.

Just handle the bantz familia. It's 4chan, people will always be shitposting.

>>37076404

You might wanna recheck the archives bby.

>>37076381

Here's your (you)

>>37075726
Why do you insist that he's misunderstanding shit?
He doesn't know shit how can he misunderstand it?

>>37075748
Not last week no you don't claim that this is assistance, you were saying this is how to lift

Last week everyone was on your ass telling you you're wrong now suddenly it's just supposed to be assistance lmaooo

>>37076453
You're embarrassing. An actual disgrace.

Not only can you not lift and not coach, let's add inability for discussion and shameless attention whoring to the mix.

You'll have quit lifting within a year so I have that to look forward to at least

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>>37076498

This is the weakest b8 senpai.
Gotta try harder, cmon.

>>37076480
>>37076480
Lol guess I'm too forgiving senpai but desu anyone with half a brain and/or a coach knows how retarded trappy is

>>37076520
Yeah everything is either bait or a meme when ur wrong huh

>>37070766
Everyone who's lifted with Martha know she got a dick

>>37076304
with those numbers ytf u acting like an expert all the time, gtfo

>>37076453
> It's 4chan, people will always be shitposting.
so are you implying that it's you who is shitposting? or people who are disagreeing with you?
if it's the latter case, take your trip off and less people will respond to you, ie disagree with you -> less "shitposting"

>>37076557
I would fuck trap Mattie desu

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CAN WE GO BACK TO TALKING ABOUT WEIGBTLIFTING NOE NOT SOME TRANNYS DELUSIONS PLS?

Trappy is right in this discussion
in clean shorter extension is preferred because you save energy
there are weightlifters who has full ext like tatiana and others who has shorter ext like klokov.

there is no superior way of doing it btw. just do whatever you can do flawlessly
a lot of you are numpties btw

>>37076673
>>37076673

I'll trust my coach rather than a mentally ill tranny and a guy who has made no progress in 2years thanks

>>37076774
why is it so hard to believe that people have shorter extension than others? do you not watch videos of people lifting?

>>37076794
The discussion wasn't about shorter or longer

It was about purposefully cutting it short

Can you even read

>>37076825
its the same thing

>>37075369
you can and should finish the pull whilst controlling the height
i dont think many coaches would tell you to cut the pull short to control bar height

>>37075684
it's quite annoying when you fail to articulate yourself well and then claim you won an argument because apparently you apparently didnt mean what you said
this seems to be a common theme in stuff you say

>>37076836
http://gwenweightlifting.blogspot.com/2014/05/two-common-styles-of-olympic.html

>>37076856
>>37076838

I knew I could rely on you to talk sense pas

>>37076836
No it isn't

>>37074210
But why?

>>37076867
klokov's extension isn't too different from that of chinese/korean lifters
im not seeing the difference here

http://chinfl.blogspot
.co.uk/2013/08/cleans.html

>>37076867
Most retarded thing I've ever heard. Terrible examples and explanation given too. Klokov doesn't do anything like she claims, neither does ilya. You can pause the fucking video and see klokov in full extension.

Gwen is a well known hack tho, so, yknow. I don't expect much else.

>>37076936
There is no difference pas, that article is awful and I'm actually surprised pent is buying into it, he usually speaks more sense.

>>37076936
also the frames gwen chose in her comparison picture are very unrepresentative of the actual lift
her full extension pic doesnt even show full extension, and the klokov series misses it even more

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>>37076856

I didn't claim to win any arguments.
I articulated myself pretty thoroughly. It's not my fault people instantly make strawmen up in their heads when they see my posts, just so they can disagree and argue with me.
And then when I point out I'm not any of those strawmen, people complain I'm not "articulating myself properly".

Cmon now.

>>37076961

>like she claims

What am I claiming, exactly?

See, this is what I'm talking about. People simply make stuff up in their mind and start arguing with me about it, as if I held an opinion or something that I do not actually hold and have never even said.

you now realize all these cunts who went to other countries dont know better than u either

despite claiming that they do because they learned straight from the source so they dont have to figure shit out

lmao is what ive been saying these weak fucks dont no any better

>>37077167
Jesus Christ trappy, I was talking about Gwen. Look at what I was replying to

It's not all about you ffs, we've moved on. You're fucking annoying. Pas is exactly right. You don't articulate yourself well at all.

>>37077252

Sorry senpai my bad. I didn't actually read the Gwen article.

>>37075600
>including Lu, cutting the bar height short

i think this is what pas meant >>37077167

u say right there that lu cuts his pull height short, then when you watch the video he actually don't. then when someone calls you out on it

you say you didnt actually mean that, you mean something else we just didnt get what you mean

you know what i mean? u probably dont since you'll say in the next post that's not what you mean when it's clear that you do

>>37077265
This whole thing could've been avoided if you read everything properly first

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>>37077287

We were talking about this though:
>Have you ever watched a good lifter warm up? See how they power there early lifts and squat them?

And then in the video you can clearly see that they don't just do that. There are many examples in the vid, including Lu, of not doing that, not powering the bar up and squatting down, even with light weights that they could power up.

I don't see any lack of clearance in this discussion.
The problem is, people made up in their heads that I'm talking about something else.
That's not my fault. I'm not responsible for other's strawmen.

If you read my posts from the start you will see my opinions and arguments are pretty clear.

>>37077306

It's funny because the whole thing could be avoided if people read what I said properly, instead of making stuff up in their heads and arguing about that.

But that's no fun for the shitposters.

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form check pls

>>37077426
you see lu muscle snatching his warmups then full snatching it meeting it where he pulled it? then you could clearly see him doing that with his 60kg clean warmups, powering it then riding it down

i think you're the retarded, he said early lifts they power (ie catch where they pull) not that they try to power every light lift which is wasting energy. not that you would know that since you dont lift

ofc everyone else is wrong but you lmao

>>37077426
You're delusional and this is what you said happened last time, it didn't happen then either.

You make a point
Get called out
Claim it wasn't the point you originally made that you were making
Rinse and repeat

Anyway, CBA anymore, noone can get through you're thick skull

>>37077433
shut up hwan no one wants to see you catch where you pull the bar, that's incorrect according to resident trip, named trap he knows the correct way to lift

ur all wrong and retarded tell deliuge

>>37077483
hehehehehe

>>37077433
Sorry to break it to u but u seem to have a little hole in ur tights

>>37077505
woah! i did not notice that. thanks for the heads up.

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>>37077469

You mean Lu does both things?
Like I said from the start? >>37075369
Interesting, tell me more.

>>37077482

I'm not responsible for the strawmen you create senpai.

>>37077433

You're not pulling as high as you can on every lift 0/10

>>37077433
Are you taunting us with your nearly perfect form?

>>37077524
no you fucking retard look at the responses you made

>>37074417
>Please tell me how telling someone to shorten their pull is good advice
your response

>>37074971
>This is literally basic level weightlifiting.

IMPLYING THAT EVERYONE CUTS THEY PULL SHORT RIGHT OFF THE BAT

lmaooo

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>>37077580

Except I didn't imply any of that. I linked a timestamped video that elaborates on my point.

Nice strawman though.

>>37077524
if tonnes of people make the same stawman from your argument you didnt articulate it well.
to me it seems more like you make stupid points, act arrogant and full of yourself then backpeddle and act like a 5 year old though
if you fail to get your idea across to someone who is trying to listen it's your fault for explaining badly

>>37077609

>TFW I will never shitpost this hard
>Derailed no less than 4 staple threads in one day
>Why live?

>>37077642
Pas right once more
Trappy cant articulate responses to criticisms either hence why she can only give out (you)s and say strawman over and over

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>>37077642

Is it really tons of people, though?
Cause it really seems like one or two to me. Specially considering they are people who actively try to argue with me on anything, as you can see >>37077482 "happened last time"

>if you fail to get your idea across to someone who is trying to listen it's your fault for explaining badly

Or the other person simply does not want to listen, or take your actual points in consideration, and just wants to argue and insult you.
Sounds familiar...

>to me it seems more like you make stupid points, act arrogant and full of yourself then backpeddle and act like a 5 year old though

You're free to think whatever you want of me. I don't care either way.

Also, you can't call it "backpeddle" when the argument you're using is a strawman. That's not how it works. I can't "backpeddle" away from an argument I never made.

>>37077642
A big example of this are the megathread screenshots
People have made points in those threads that trappy tried to argue. Even if trappy conceded the point, he just took a screenshot of his OP and continued to treat 'his own' word as gospel

trappy reminds me a lot of harsh sometimes, 2.0

>>37077718
Lots of people disagree with lots of things you say, that's a fact.

Regardless of this argument, you aren't an authority on weightlifting, you arent a weightlifting coach, and you only post klokov videos to back up your limited knowledge.

Nothing wrong with that, but just humble yourself and admit you don't know everything about this sport and would do well to listen and take things on board rather than stubbornly forcing your (limited) knowledge

>>37077765
nice straw man, i never said i know everything

i just said i know everything but you dont understand

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>>37077735

>A big example of this are the megathread screenshots

Got any proof? Of course not.

All points that I've conceded were edited in the screenshots to reflect that, or redacted in the updated thread. See: Lats and spinal stability (which is still correct, I simply overstated it at first) - and sumo and adductors.
See pic related.

Or are you mad that I didn't concede to some dumb point you might have made in one of those threads? Because there were plenty of dumb points made back then.

>>37077765

Here's your (you)

>>37077718
your posts frequently lead to arguments like this

If you think everybody else is the problem, then you might be the problem

>>37077718
You're a tranny, your opinion is worthless.

>>37076928
i too want to know this, just learned to o'erhead squat with clean grip
maybe is not meem?

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>>37077804

I never said everyone else is the problem though.

I said a couple of people.

But sure, Pas, whatever you say to make you feel better about yourself.

>>37077718
>"happened last time"

these threads are generals, meaning people are mostly regulars and have seen all of your retarded posts, only one guy defends you with his meme posting which might even be you memeing hahah


btw i dont try to argue on these threads, i just call out the retarded like u when i see them :DD

>>37077735
Trappy is a lot like harsh. They read and cite limited sources. Dole out advice despite have no credentials and not lifting well themselves, then refuse to back up claims/numbers with evidence

Shes writes well, also like harsh, and that gives her an air of authority, but the actual technical side of things, again, like harsh, is very very limited.

Klokov seminars (aimed at crossfitters not weightlifters) and SS are all well and good but it only impresses novices, anyone who even spends a few months under an actual coach would poke holes in the advice, which, like harsh, trappy hates and goes off yelling strawman this, strawman that (note that when she loses an argument she resorts to this tactic rather than actually reinforcing her original point, because she's since realised she was wrong but can't admit it)

just my 2 cents here

i just try not to strain as much when snatching or cleaning warm up weights as i would when snatching or cleaning max effort weights.

unless, of course, the main objective is to power snatch or power clean. all because i prefer to do so.

>>37077847

But Juan, haven't you listened to /owg/ yet? You're supposed to always pull your max bar height.

>>37077847
Ur lifts look great u should post moar.

>>37077825
Lol you're such a smug cunt

What makes someone this delusional? You're a crap lifter, worse coach, the majority of people don't like you, yet you still insist on tripping. Why did you even start tripping anyway?

>>37077856

Trip on Pas

>>37077800
Calm down
Literally the only post I made in the deadlift megathread was 1 or 2 posts encouraging you to make your own sticky.
Would you like me to provide proof?

>>37077853
No, /owg/ official stance is always cut pull short cos trappy said this is basic lifting knowledge

Can't believe u didn't know that

>>37077853
completing the pull does not equal max bar height

idiot trappy lmao

>>37077853
Trappy will be our sean LMAO.
Anyway I suck at this but I think it's better to teach beginners to pull high rather than to shorten the pull.

>>37077865
i don't trip i meme :^)

>>37077885
>Anyway I suck at this

exactly so shut the fuck up

>>37077882
This this this this this this this this

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>>37077868

Post them.

>>37077882

Which is exactly what I said. >>37075748
Good job repeating my point and using it against me though.

btw the sticky power clean shit trappy made, even mentions that you dont use arms to finish the pull, all of it comes from legs (LMAO)

lets see when he will change this since he got btfo last week about that

>>37077898
>Implying trappy doesn't suck too
>Implying most of this general doesn't suck too
>Implying I'm not younger than commisar and if I were a grown man I wouldn't outlift you
Also have you ever seen a beginner without a coach(or with one) know how to control their pull height?

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>>37077913

You don't use your arms during the triple extension.
This is basic weightlifting friendo.

Why do I always hear Americans using the cue "Come on!"?

What's it supposed to do? Engage the "don't fuck up" muscles?

>>37077908
where exactly in that post did you made the point that a complete pull is not equal to max bar height?

exactly, nowhere. you're now back pedalling and claiming you implied that in your post but you actually didnt when you posted that

>>37077940
Second time you said that this thread and first time you got btfo, be careful

>triple extension

People actually say this?

>>37077940
PULL IS NOT EQUAL TO TRIPLE EXTENSION YOU FUCKING IDIOT

the pull is the whole lift till it's overhead in the snatch or in your shoulders in the clean

you not knowing this just shows how retarded u r

>>37077942

>where exactly in that post did you made the point that a complete pull is not equal to max bar height?

Where exactly have I made the point that you're not suppose to complete the pull?

Good luck.

>>37077950

Here's your (you)

>>37077941
It's not a cue as such, it's just to make someone focus

Idk, I'm not American but I hear it alot too. Doesn't bother me

>>37077956

Then why are you talking about the whole lift?

>>37077957
When it was said cutting a pull was stupid

Then u said

It's basic weightlifting knowledge

If you didn't mean that you should cut your pull you really do need to be clearer. Noone else fault but your own. We can't read minds.

>>37077941
yeah only americans encourage their athletes to try their best

you never hear russians/kazakhs coaches shout "DAVAI ILYUSHKA!!!!!" when ilya attempts the world record right?

>>37077983

Actually,
>>37074417
>>37074971

Cutting the pull was not mentioned.

>>37078006
Explain how to shorten the pull without cutting it short pls

>>37078006
>Please tell me how telling someone to shorten their pull is good advice
>This is literally basic level weightlifiting.
What did she mean by this?

>>37078014

Literally watch the video from the timestamp.
https://youtu.be/MXfkEW9WVNU?t=2m39s

Because trappy doesnt want to actually repeat/defend/retract what [s]he has posted and instead keeps shitposting

Anon
>Please tell me how telling someone to shorten their pull is good advice
Trappy
>This is literally basic level weightlifiting.

and later

Comm
>russian coaches teach a full pull though
Trappy replies
>AFAIK they teach both. And so does Klokov.


these the only bits that people are annoyed about, and your shitposting blows things massively out of proportion, shifting the focus of discussion completely away from what you were talking about to the extent i cannot even remember your opinions without having to ctrl-f your tripcode and reread your posts

in the future admit either you thought wrong or phrased yourself poorly and gave the wrong message across

night

>>37077967
because i said the whole lift = a pull

you somehow think the pull ends when you triple extend

>>37077957
>Where exactly have I made the point that you're not suppose to complete the pull?

oh you're right you dindt reply to the guy saying its basic knowledge linking klokov video then linking a lu video saying he cuts the bar height short

you didnt do that i just imagined you typing those out, no one actually can see them cept me

my bad m8

>>37078028

But you were talking about something I said in a previous thread.
And in that thread, I wasn't talking about the whole lift.
I was talking about the triple extension.

Good job.

>>37078023
His point is not to keep pulling with arms, and you should meet the bar properly

That is not the same as shortening a pull. He's still teaching a full pull.

>>37078047
i just made a post right here, right now that you responded to which i made clear what i'm saying.

>that you dont use arms to finish the pull

is what i said

you replied with

>You don't use your arms during the triple extension.

???

u still wont get it cause you're dumb

im done 4 today

>>37078092

So you understand now?

>>37078092
>His point is not to keep pulling with arms, and you should meet the bar properly

so how do you meet the bar properly without using your arms to pull yourself into it?

fucking magic

i forgot about that

>>37078115
I understand that what you posted was unrelated to the bad advice about cutting the pull short and that you didn't need to post this as it was unrelated.

We should stop all this arguing or we will turn into /plg/2.0 aka shitposting central

>>37078123
He's not saying don't pull

Just don't yank it/row it I guess

Thing trappy needs to understand is these are seminars for crossfitters who do clean with that weird overpulled/armpull/row

It's not applicable to anything mentioned inbthis thread and she shouldn't have ever posted it

>>37078113

No, the post said
>btw the sticky power clean shit trappy made, even mentions that you dont use arms to finish the pull, all of it comes from legs (LMAO)

Which is incorrect. I only mentioned the triple extension.

>>37078126

Sure, but the post I replied to was not talking about cutting the pull short.

>>37078123

I think he meant not rowing the bar up. Also got confused by that but eh, whatever.

>>37078148
It will never go

Trappy could solve it by dropping trip. It's not needed in this thread anyway seeing as she isn't an Olympic lifter

But she won't cos stubborn as fuck

>>37078156
Yes it was. It said shortening the pull is bad advice.

>>37078156
>the post I replied to was not talking about cutting the pull short
Sure as hell seemed that way to me
>Please tell me how telling someone to shorten their pull is good advice >>37074417
>This [shortening the pull] is literally basic level weightlifiting
>>37074971

Before you get your panties in a bunch, I'm a different person randomly replying now

>>37078156
If you got confused by it why did you cite it as good advice?

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>>37078164

I wasn't even posting when the shitstorm started.
How would me dropping the trip change any of it?

Protip: It wouldn't. People will still be childish, shitpost, and argue about everything. This is 4chan.

>>37078174

See, the problem is, you're thinking about something else.

Anon said >>37069997 he might have a problem with not being able to control the bar height (what Klokov describes in the video).
Then anon suggested learning the drill Klokov shows, so that the beginner can start having more control of his pull and the bar height.
This is my interpretation, of course, and I'm not the one who made this post.

Then we have anon #2 >>37070786 who says
>Um no. Literally no good coach ever will tell you to short your pull. 'Only pull to bell button and go under' is just a meme
>You should catch the bar where you catch it. Meet the bar. Never shorten you pull
Anon #2 is clearly arguing that the drill is useless, and that teaching beginners to control the bar height is a meme.

Anon #2 asks how it would be good advise >>37074417
I direct him to Klokov explaining the issue >>37074971
Commie discusses whether or not it's actually useful to teach this. >>37075075 >>37075126 >>37075221 >>37075369

You can clearly see that we are talking about knowing and learning how to control the bar height, me arguing it's important to learn both to pull with your max height, and learning to pull to a desirable, controlled height - and anon is arguing this is stupid.

Then somehow some people started coming in and arguing that I'm saying you're supposed to "cut your pull short" or whatever the hell that means, creating their own strawman version of the discussion. And I clearly and repeatedly stated that this is not the issue at hand.
Then it devolved into low-level arguing, insulting, and general shitposting.

Not hard, is it?

>>37078251

I got confused by the anon's conclusion, not Klokov. I just didn't bother discussing it with him because I'm pretty tired.

>>37078350
The guy you claim was saying klokovs drill is useless posted before you posted the drill. Not everyone knows his videos by heart. You're painting a version of events that suits you, again.

Fuck I don't even care. Off to sleep.

>>37078384

The drill is literally described here though >>37069997
And if anon doesn't know about it, why would he directly call it a meme >>37070786

I don't even need to paint this, it's clear cut.

When will this trappy faggot fuck off and kill himself?

>>37078384

In any case, that's why I directed the anon to the video >>37074971
So that in case he doesn't understand it, he could learn about it.

>>37078423
I don't think he's saying the drill is a meme... It's a common stereotype that commentators reel out of 'if you can pull it to your belly you can get under it' I think he meant that was the meme. Surely you've heard that? They say it literally every international comp

>>37078350
>You should catch the bar where you catch it.

this is the same as
>control the bar height

ur an idiot

>Never shorten you pull

he said this because of this

>Beginners have the tendency to pull the bar up to them, when you should just pull it to navel height and then explode under it

which basically means cut your pull short and jump under the bar

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>>37078494

That's why I linked the video though.
I'm not really defending anon's #1 point. I'm not even sure what his point is, my interpretation of it is my assumption.

All I did was point out to anon #2 that controlling the pull height is a thing >>37074971 and I directed him to a video where klokov both talks about it, and teaches a drill for people to practise that.

Posted on plg but no reply, do you guys know what i should do

vmo was hurting a lot, never ever had knee problem, on my right leg when doing squats. resting it for a week to make sure its good

did the vmo flex, that shit felt really good

any tips on what i should do going forward, don't want to fuck my shit up

Im new to lifting but the coach/owner at my warehouse gym checks my form every time i lift for a few sets and says my form's good. guy isn't here until next week. i asked an experienced lifter all hes said was like foam roll and rest

Thanks

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>the moment when everyone realises trappy and pent are right, but no one wants to admit it or apologize

>>37078562
trip on trappy

>>37078350
>How would me dropping the trip change any of it?
it would be very easy to find out

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>>37078562
>the face of newfags from plg who think they know everything