This natty ?

>>37045500
No he's obviously wearing makeup

probably? probably not? who cares

>>37045500
All that matters is how "not good enough" it is to you.

>>37045500
It could be. Scoobys about the same size. Bigger chest obviously

>>37045500

Hard to tell without knowing his height and weight.

It is probable achievable natty.
Is he natty? Probably not. The number of gym going men who use gear is a lot higher than most people realise.

>>37045500
The garbage haircut says No

Obvious steroids is obvious.

>>37046796
His delts and upper chest are too big for a natty.

Those parts have androgen receptors that blow up on steroids.

>>37045500

OF COURSE HE'S 100% NATURAL BRAH

STOP BEING JEALOUS

>>37046821

They aren't that big though. You're being deceived by the pump, lighting and leanness. And the pose (pulling elbow back slightly makes anyones shoulders look bigger). And to be real there isn't a great deal of delt separation going on.

Again, not claiming he is natty, just that the goalposts for roid-delts seem to have shifted from striated cannonballs to anything remotely round looking.

>>37046759
>scooby is natty

ayy lmao

Unlikely but still a fantastic goal to strive towards naturally, even if you don't quite end up quite there.

>>37045500
100% natty, brah. Achievable in 1 year of SS and 1 year of TM.

>>37045500
this is the natty limit.he might be working out hard for 5 years with a very strict diet.or he might have roided for a year and a half.who knows?
>>37046759
scooby is on TRT (roids)
>>37046821
nope,he doesnt have roidtraps.

>>37046991
>this is the natty limit
lmao

>>37046878
Don't bother. People that've been lifting for like a year see it as a sign of maturity and knowledge of 'the game' to call out anyone with significant development as a roider. There's no grey area for them - if they are lean with decent mass, it's roids no question. His delts aren't even particularly large but people love to point it out as evidence because it shows that they are 'in the know'.

>>37046995
it is.you cant get more bulky than this at this bodyfat.

>>37047007
You can't get that big at that bodyfat % as a natty. Stop giving unrealistic expectations to newbs.

>>37047014
you can.its just that all you newfags believe you can get ripped in a year.people can become like OP but they work out for 4-5 years 4 days a week without a stop.

>>37045500
If you have to ask, he isn't natty.

>>37047031
>jealous fatty with stretchmarks and saggy skin

>>37045500
too lean. clen or test

This is the natty limit w/ good jenes.

>>37045500
He's 20 years old of course he isn't