/cgt/

It's ok, anon. I binged on strawberries and bluberries today. No regrets.

>start off 190
>cut down to 181
>have a couple cheat days, but remain in caloric deficit
>184
I know it's water weight from beer, and extra food still digesting from pizza, but fuck, feels bad man.

These threads are the perfect support group

>Tfw haven't lost a pound in 4 days
>Still seeing body progress tho and making lifting noob gains

>>36950275
Blaha said there is no point cutting, better turn into a 250 pund beast. only insecure closet homosexuals care abot being skinny. and real men want to b alpha as fuck, and that means getting fucked by alphas ( like in Rome time), so if u dont get fucked in the ass by a 40 year old, then there is no hope for u, rather just murder urself u freak of nature !

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Not cutting but trying to bulk very clean.

>have a friend come over for a coffee today
>buy a four pack of small double chocolate muffins
>eat two
>fucking 660 calories

Now im hungry af. Ive gottwn my proteins but want to eat my delicious tuna pasta waiting in my fridge. What do? Attack the pasta and call it a cheat day?

Anyone else find cutting really easy ? If I eat alow carb high protein diet , with a lot of fiber as well, I don't even feel like eating though I can physically sense my body is hungry

Are you guys using myfitnesspal?

How do you gauge your daily net caloric intake if you're weight lifting?

I have mine set at 2050 kcal I'm usually +- 150 cals but it doesn't my current exercise except for steps.

tl;dr how many calories are burned working out?

>>36950354

Nice buddy. I'm a week into my diet and I've lost 3 lbs. I've definitely noticed that in my later sets I seem to have no gas left in the tank...

>>36950375

Burn those cals off with some ol' fashioned weight liftin desu.

>>36950275
>apples, bananas and cranberries
literally how? how many did you fucking eat?

>>36950406
>intake
confuus

>>36950459
Just came from the douchehouse m8...

>>36950473

I meant total senpai

>>36950311
>I binged on strawberries and bluberries today.
How? You would have to eat like a kilo to make a significant impact

>>36950400
same here
i honestly find bulking harder, as in, sometimes i'll undereat on a bulking day

>>36950406
There's a strength training option under the cardio section to gauge calories lost.
Not sure how accurate it is though; I'm doing high weight low rep so I assume it's less.

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>>36950500
m8..

>>36950519
Are you skinny build?

I'm starting from 245, cutting is 9000x harder than bulking for me. Although, bulking is what I've been doing for the last 24 years...

>>36950519
This. I'm a former fatty and now I find bulking harder.

>>36950548
yeah im coming from the other side

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Started my cut 1 month ago started at 190 and now at 180. Think i can be shredded at ~170? I can post a pic at 190 if anyone cares, pic related is last night at 180

>>36950591
i care, post.

>>36950591

What did you look like at 190?

>mirin'

>>36950500
I ate 1,6 kilos of the stuff throughout the day. It makes an impact.

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>>36950605
>>36950609
thx 4 interest, pic related at 190 in mid/late march I think.

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1 Month lifting and dieting progress.

A-am I going to make it?

>>36950470
2 medium apples, 2 big bananas, a fistful of dried cranberries.
About 500 cals in total.
I know it's not a total disaster but it completely wiped out my planned 500 cal deficit.

>>36950648
damn dude your cut is really working I can barely see you

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>>36950648

>posts the thumb

>>36950657
kek

>>36950653
Bananas and dried fruit are cut killers. Apples are good though. If you only ate them you could have jogged for 30 min and be in the clear.

>>36950646

I notice it most in your abs. Keep up the good work m8

>>36950646
i would definitely be excited for 170.

good luck bud

Been cutting for three months and lost eight kilos, but don't feel a lot less fat. Starting to worry I've been losing muscle as well, so I might cut less aggressively.

>Been cutting for almost one and a half year
>Last 3 months
>No weight lost
>No lifting done
>Increased vascularity
>no visible loss in muscle mass

wtf is wrong with me

>>36950680
>>36950689
Thanks guys :)
best of luck to you all too

>>36950706
That's what happens the moment before the Left4Dead bloater explodes
RIP anon ;_;

>>36950400
yes. when I had a high carb, high protein and low fat diet I was always hungry now that I switched it up a little I don't. I just feel like empty.

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>>36950706
Everyone plateaus at some point. Just make sure you at least stay still, don't go backwards. Once you're stable, grind forward again. Forward is the only way, senpai.

>>36950737
what % do your run your macros at now?

>>36950275
>x general thread I guess
stop it

>>36950646
height?

>>36950756

run along, faggot

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>have nights where I lie awake hungry for hours

>usually eat some cottage cheese snack to help me fall asleep

>wonder what cottage cheese and pudding mix tastes like

>end up eating 700 cals, putting me at maintenance

>weigh self in morning and find out I'm ahead of schedule by 3 lbs

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>low carb, high fat
stable energy levels but black hole level emptiness in stomach

>high carb, low fat
physically tummy is nice and filled up, but energy levels crash and feel faint after an hour

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>TFW just started trying out paleo diet to clean bulk since gut is getting out of control and summer is coming around
>no dairy or grains allowed
>Constant struggle to eat 2600+ calories a day

Where the fuck do I get calories from? Fish and vegetables and eggs aren't cutting it. I shove like 4 bananas and a cup of almonds just to make up most of my missing calories daily,

I'm debating just going into a full cut since eating would be easier, but I'm not happy with my current weight, cutting would just make me weigh less.

[spoiler]Currently 5'11" 175lbs[/spoiler]

>>36950819
Use whey instead

>>36950756
Faggot general thread, I guess

>>36950821
>who was protein

>>36950778
6' flat. Hate being 6' because on /fit/ everyone whos 5'10-5'11 probably just says 6', i feel like 6' is kinda unbelievable. I gues I could say 6'1 but then id be lying :/

>>36950845
I usually do

j-just had a lost of self control last night..

>>36950745
im at 25% carbs, 45% prot, 30% fat. Though sometimes I displace the carb ratio by just a bit though no more than max 5% difference. Before I was retarded as hell and did no fat and it made me had hunger cravings that were destroying me. I follow Keto now though which I think its working for me, appetite control anyway.

>>36950275
last two days, I've had a bowl of raisin bran, 2 eggs, and 2 brotien shakes. I like to chew gun to get rid of hunger

>>36950894
Bad pupper

>>36950662
Need two shirtless before and afters famalamborghini

Can't properly judge else

>>36950640
That shit is expensive as fuck here, do you literally live in the jungle?

>>36950901
>chew gun to get rid of hunger
It gets rid of more than that anon. No need to end it all just yet.

>>36950894
faggot

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>>36950901

>Chew gum
>to get RID of hunger

THE ABSOLUTE MADMAN

Are fruits actually bad for cutting? I'm a fat ass and I heard fruits are healthy for you, so I usually eat some in the morning as a light breakfast, yet /fit/ says otherwise.

What's the real deal?

>>36950901
Anon why ;_;

>>36950965

Depends on the fruit desu.

Dried fruits and bananas are full of calories. Great for bulking. Apples aren't so bad.

All of them are full of sugar.

>>36950965
Ignore almost everything we say. Fruits healthy as shit. Just don't eat that canned or pre cut shit.

>>36950965
Fruits have them micronutrients, but are also like 90% carbs w a tiny bit of fiber, so in terms of macros they're pretty shit. Don't not ever eat fruit like /fit/ might make you think, but don't be eating like 10 servings a day thinking you're being a real healthy guy like any other normy would think.

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My TDEE is 3142 apparently.

If i'm running a 2200 kcal diet am I going to lose weight faster or is it unsustainable?

>>36950653
>dried cranberries
Dried fruit usually has added sugar, buy them fresh or frozen.

>>36950945

explain this to me desu

>>36951041
You will lose weight faster and it's only unsustainable if you don't have the willpower to do it.

>>36951060

I don't know any science correlation, but whenever I chew gum I get hungry as fuck. I try to avoid it whenever possible. I always just thought it was the same for other people.

>>36950945
>>36950991
well my logic is that I can't eat food while chewing gum, and as soon as I spit it out, I'll pop in a new piece

>>36951074

6 lbs in two weeks but the hunger... goddamn

I've been drinking over a gallon of water a day to fill the void.

>>36950823

Unless you're gonna eat a whole lot of nuts and bananas, eating 2600+ calories a day on paleo is going to be rough.

And since you're trying to lose gut, that's not really plausible. It sounds like you just want to cut.

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>>36951093
>>36951060

I'm the same way, chewing gum is like pseudo-snacking to me. I have heard that it fools your stomach into believing that food is coming and your body reacts by lowering your PH in anticipation of digestion. That could just be broscience though

>>36950863
Protein isn't a fuel.

>>36951093
>Too autistic to carry the joke
Damn you. Go eat your gun. See if I care.

>>36951142
Prove it

>>36951140
It works for me man
>>36951148
what?

>>36951142
enjoy your muscle loss.

>>36950275

> be 182
> jog to 154
> cut to 140

Literally plateaued. I eat about 1000 calories a day and I can't loose any more.

>>36951239
height and body fat %?

>>36951142

You're forgetting about neoglucogenesis.

>>36950275

This endless cut is going - I can finally see the light at the end of the tunnel brehs.

>Started at 375 back in October
>Currently 264
>The lightest I've been since the 8th grade

Just a few more months and I'll have finally escaped obesity.

>>36951256

5'9 proud manlet.

I have no idea. It's mainly concentrated around the stomach so I have a 'joggers body' with iron thighs and a pot belly.

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Anyone knows a good appetite killer? Something top grade like DNP? I'm trying to control my diet natty but can't handle the free drinks and food at my work. My office is literally next to the kitchen and all I think about is fucking free food.
Have absolutely no problem with self control outside the office building, so I need some kind of the artificial solution.

>>36951294
green tea boiled for five minutes with a lemon squeezed in it

>>36951005
>>36951012
Thanks anons

>>36951031
Is it really that necessary to track your macros on a cut as a fatass? Currently 180 and need to lose 50 more pounds. I suppose I could use it to shed those last few pounds for when I'm near my goal weight, but I'm unsure if it's really all that necessary at my size when I'm eating mostly healthy food while staying at a calorie deficit.

Im getting so sick of this cut. Im doing everything right, im in a calorie deficit and im losing weight. But i still look the SAME!! I´ve lost in total 10 kg. The first 4-5 kg changed my body a lot and i looked a lot better. After that ive lost another 5 kg and i look exactly the same, I still have massive lovehandles. What am i doing wrong?

>>36951213
>I like to chew gun to get rid of hunger

>>36951331

Are you lifting?

>>36951317
Not at all, unless you lift and then its just protein

You don't need to track them, just make sure you don't eat garbage like fast food

>>36951331
>What am i doing wrong?
You lack patience.

>>36951148

it was a shit joke anyway m8

>>36951309
Should it be hot?

>>36951331

Have you tried lifting weights?

>>36951339
ah

>>36951362
>>36951341
Yes of course. Been lifting since i began the cut in december. Pretty sure ive gained some muscle mass

>>36950823

>Bulking on paleo

Is that even fucking possible?

>>36951393
Yes

>>36951391

Option: Lift heavier weights. continue eating calorie deficit.

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>>36951370
Fug you

>>36951352
Alright
Thanks anon

What do you guys do when you get mega-fucking-hungry?

running a 30% deficit to get unobese and the hunger pangs are worse than nicotine withdrawals

>>36951406
Thanks for the tip. Do you think i should lower the calories? I am losing weight almost every day

>>36950324
it'll be okay, anon.

>>36951436
I drink coffee and keep busy.
Boredom will make you want to eat when you're that hungry.

>>36951436

Eat a sweet potato, or a bunch of vegetables in general. Fill you up for like 100 calories.

>>36951436
Codeine and a diet Monster

>Afraid im gonna binge today
>im at 1200 cals
>have a limit of 2000
>im starving
>today is leg day
>halfway through workout
>gotta control myself when im done

Almond bake + scoop of chocolate whey + quark.

Mix into 'sort of tastes like chocolate cheesecake' dessert.

You are welcome.

>>36951505

At least eat a banana or something before you go, anon. Lifting while starving is the fucking worst. Fucks up your whole shit.

>tfw only ate 300 cals today so far
>it's 5pm

>>36951532
i have a home gym. im typing in between sets. I had 2 crescent rolls left over from the other night. just ate them for some carbs. im going to my moms house later to help her plant her garden and she will probably make me dinner. just gotta be careful

>>36951476

Yeah i've definitely noticed the boredom hunger. It's especially before bed. I'll be winding down watching sportscentre and all i'll wanna do is snack like a hamplanet.

thanks for the advice desu

>>36950965
They're healthy, but don't fall for the "you can eat however many you want, how can fruits be bad for you????" meme. They DO contain calories and not an insignificant amount. As long as you do keep track of the calorie-intake from fruits and don't assume they'll magically melt off you you should be fine.

anybody got any tips to eating low sugar greek yogurt? I find the taste nasty as hell. Everytime I eat one of these (2 of them daily, 80 calories per 13 proteins per each 1 is fucking god mode for me) I find myself having to do a combination of eating as a mouthful and then quickly drinking water or else I prob gag or somehting.

>>36951622
I make smoothies with greek yogurt.
I can't stand it on its own.

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I know the feeling breh, i fucked up 2 days ago I don't know what came over me, I have low calories stuff at home but I ate a shit ton anyway. Lots of chesse, bread, popcorn chips oh the chips..
All you can do is call it a day lrn from it continue your cut the next day as usual.

>>36951622
i refuse to do it. I get chobani vanilla. Its 13g protein and 130 cals. Im ok with the sugar. Id gladly eat 50 cals worth of sugar if it means i enjoy the taste.

>>36951547

>Home gym

Can I live with you, no homo?

>>36951505
Least have a Banana man lifting while starving will fuck up your game

>>36951575
The key is to do so much during the day when bedtime comes you're too exhausted to eat.

>>36951622
Walden Farms pancake syrup.

>>36951656
sure. why not. Its a 2 bed room apartment. The spare bed room is where i keep the equipment. You can sleep on the couch or in my bed.

>>36951697

N Y C

Y

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>>36951707

>NYC
>Affording a 2 bedroom apartment by yourself

Anon, did you even think about your post?

i started my cut not long ago and my shits are liquid. when does this stop, if ever

>>36951331
Time and Protein anon

>>36951707
im in northern MD. youre out of luck friend

>>36950868
Doesn't matter regardless, 6'2'' is manlet cutoff

>>36951736

Did you go from a lot of dairy to no dairy? Happened to me, too.

>>36951737
Why protein? Isnt it calories that matters the most

>>36950741
what film?

>>36951736

This.

I've been pissing out my ass for a month now.

>>36951752
no i eat the same amount of dairy. my assumption is my body is just asjusting to my limited diet
>>36951770
MGSV
>>36951784
at least its easier to wipe

>Grab some fast food (McDonald's) with relatives to keep in touch
>Planned, prepared for it
>Figured out what I'm having, how many calories etc.
>Left a few hundred cals spare so I can fill up on something nutritious and filling afterwards
>Grandma brings dessert (to a fucking McDonald's)
>Family already thinks I'm getting too thin
>Begrudgingly accept the dessert with a smile, taking me up to my calorie limit for cutting today

Fuck me. I've got a will of iron when it's not my family judging me for being too lean.

>Parents already convinced I'm not eating enough/I'm too slim
>CONSTANTLY invite me over for food, most of which is way too calorie dense for a cut (and way too dirty for a bulk)
>Always ask in conversation if I'm eating well/enough
>Would probably have found out if I'd turned the dessert down and used it to fuel their view that I need to eat more/have a problem

I want to get off this ride.

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>>36950591
>>36950646
nice work

>2 years ago
>lose 40 fucking pounds in about 3 months
>have stayed about the same weight/BF since then

I'm never gonna make it.

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>started cutting @ 20-22%, 2 months ago
>feeling myself plateu at around 13-14% @ 165 lbs
>the whole of next week i'll be back home for easter break (orthodox)

>>36951987
rip

Hey I'm a fat Bitch and this is like my second time on this board but I don't know where else to post this and this seems like a right thread

I'll preface by saying I hardly do any exercise at all, I'll be playing basketball pretty much everyday over the summer tho and I'm gonna try and go join a gym during that time with my friends too. Im 5'10. I was 205 pounds in February and I weighted myself this morning at 186. I changed my diet a lot, no fast food or anything, a lot of fruit, some nuts every few days, not too much meat but I'm still eating some

I've had a hard time losing weight, I eat usually around or sometimes under 1500 calories a day but I haven't lost much weight since like mid or late March when I was 190. Is there anyway I can speed this cutting shit up? Should I eat more lean meats and fewer veggies? I'd like to lose another 5 pounds in the next two weeks before I join a gym.

>>36952070
>I only eat x calories why am I not losing weight?

Love these posts

>>36952070
1. Track everything with a scale, don't ballpark it. A spoon of PB looks small but has 100kcals.
2. Join a gym ASAP. Don't wait until you're X pounds. Nobody cares if you're fat at the gym. The sooner you start, the better.

>>36952070
3 solutions
Measure better
Cut harder
Work out more/harder

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>>36950275
Hey other cutting anon. Started my cut this week after reaching my strength goals. My question is how much strength can i expect to lose trying to get down to 13-15% body fat. Its still relatively high so i should lose much right? Pic is my fat ass.

>>36952893
if you just eat at 500 cal deficit and get all the protein you need you shouldn't lose any strength.

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>i binged proteinbars x2

>>36951267
implying 0.5% of /fit/ knows about neoglucogenesis

>>36952070
if you need to burn some more kcals, just do walking. I see you are not into sports, but walking is just good you know. And as someone said 1, measure better. Get macros right, no matter which ratio meats and veggie if your macros are right, f.rx 40p 30carbs, 40fats is just fine.

Make sure your kcal deficit is set right

>>36953188
typo 40p 30f 30c

>>36951294

try your best to keep track of what you are snacking and try to keep them within your macros as best as possible. Limit yourself

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RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR!!!!!

OP here
It just wasn't sitting well with me. Not tonight. I couldn't just sit here, wait for sleep, wait for tomorrow, and do more than I usually do JUST to make up for today's mistakes, all the while hoping I don't fuck up further before bed.

So first I went for a walk, clear my head, get some fresh night air. Ended up going to the supermarket, got some bits and bobs.
Then when I got back I thought fuck it. Dragged the exercise bike in front of the TV to do my SECOND session of the day. Did another hour, working up an even higher than usual deficit: -781 cals. Rar! Not gonna fuck it up this time. I'm gonna have a strong cup of tea now while browsing the Trump general on /pol/ Then I'll go to bed. Tired as fuck after this. Body is stressed but I'll be too busy for the next to days to exercise anyway so it's ok.

We're gonna make it bros. Stumbles are ok, just power through!

>160 @ 5'8 August
>Wrestle, Change Diet, Start doing cardio often
>140 as of Now

Shit has gone great but I cant get rid of this fucking last bit of belly fat but were all gonna make it brahs

What's the dosage for yohimbine hcl? I've heard .2 per kg of body weight but I think I remember someone on /fit/ reccomending something lower

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>>36951142
>hurrr im retarded

Question: people here talk about low-carb diets as necessary for a cut. I thought you needed carbs in addition to protein to prevent your body from just using protein as energy? Should I cut carbs from my diet or try to eat a decent amount?

Additionally, I'm a vegetarian so most of my protons come from dairy, eggs and beans. Should I still cut carbs or does the fact I'm not getting meat protein prevent my body from undergoing ketosis?

>>36953385
good job man

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>>36951309
>boiling green tea

>>36951309
green tea lowers test

>>36953580
you don't need to do keto to lose weight. a simple disciplined deficit is enough.

some of the memes regarding protein, carbs and muscle catabolism here and in the fitness world as a whole are ridiculous. mostly propagated by people selling something. No, your body doesn't start eating muscle at every fucking turn. No you don't need to eat 1k kcals of carbs within 5 seconds of your workout or you'll automatically turn into a concentration camp skelly on the spot. the body is pretty damn smart, it's fantastic at working with what it has. a lot had to go wrong for you to start using your own muscle as fuel. the body had a whole list of sources that it'll use before it turns to that. don't worry about it.

keto is very very difficult. unless you're super disciplined and want it really badly, forget about it. Just cut the normal way.

>>36953692
So eating carbs vs not eating carbs won't affect my cut as long as I'm at a deficit?

Seems odd then that the whole "if it fits your macros" thing is such a meme.

>>36950400
As long as you don't keep shit food in the house it's not that difficult. If your fridge is full of cake, sodas and frozen pizzas though you will eventually lose it and go in on that shit.

Also if the sweet tooth comes calling, binge on fruits instead of pprocessed candies. MUCH less damaging to your cut.

I started my cut the other day and im down 8lbs

Is white rice bad for cutting? I'm eating so much of it these days, it's so cheap and feels so healthy...

>>36953724
that's more for getting bigger, not getting smaller.
for getting smaller, all you need to do is make sure you get enough protein - the rest can be anything; carbs, fat, even alcohol (not recommended but you get my point), as long as you're using more calories than you're eating, every day.

keto is a potent weapon (I'm in keto right now), but it's not easy to do, not easy to plan out. And you certainly can't casually dip in and out of it. basically it's not for noobs, so if you don't want or need it, forget about it.

I'm not even that hungry, I just crave the shit out of my favorite bulking foods. Pic related.

Context: I've been going 3 months on PSMF, got 1 more to go.

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>>36954004
fuck forgot the pic

>>36954013
Fuck you. I ate an hour ago and now I really badly want pita and hummus. Fuck my life

>Dad cuts up a big honeydew melon
>can tell that green meat is sweet and ripe
>eat half the melon
>Earlier ate like 6 dates and a pear

welp. those fruit carbs really sneak up on you

>>36953814
weight/height?

>>36954158
189cm, 65kg = 6'2, 143lbs

i gotta agree with keto. it its very good to use but you gotta be very disciplined and willing to make a little bit of sacrifices.

>>36954215
Why are you cutting? pics?

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Anyone tried PMSF? Been doing since monday and just wanted to see how others did.

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>>36954251
I am still in the forever skinnyfat zone and want to lose more fat before the summer.

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>>36950275
I've literally lost 19 lbs intermittent fasting since I started in March. I still have a pouch of fat underneath my new abs. What the fuck? Why?

>>36954472
Just bulk and lift and then cut, you're gonna be full skelly mode if you dont stop soon

>>36954472
what's your bf bro?

>weigh 215 lbs one day after not losing weight for a while
>really want carbs and eat a serving of oats and a potato the next day
>220 lbs
It takes me forever to see progress when I eat anything that isn't meat and vegetables.

>>36954582
I have no idea. You guys are the experts, you can estimate. I would say around 15% ?

>>36951736
>>36951784
It's the stress that causes Diarrhea, it will go away once your body feels more consistency

>>36954455
been on it for 3 months. lost 40 lbs. ~10 were probably water, but still a lot. I'll be going for a couple more weeks. abs just started coming in last week.

Happened with me too today

>1/3rd lb thickburger combo from hardees
>end up drinking 2+ sodas from refill
>go home, make coffee, 150 calories
>alright just eat two slices of pizza and im good for dinner
>eat 3, and have a chocolate bar

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>>36951532
>>36951667
Hivemind

>>36950406
get under armor record it automatically synchs with my fitness pal

>>36950275

>5 fucking pounds away from my goal weight, 55 lbs lost total
>go visit friends
>go to a pizza and beer place
>i'll just have a couple beers and a slice or two...
>8 beers later LETS GO LETS DO THIS
>eat everything they order
>5 slices of pizza
>Frito pie
>fries
>wings
>welp day's ruined
>go drink more beer
>get 2 crunch wrap supremes from Taco Bell on the way home
>falling asleep at 2AM on friend's couch
>drunk and hungry
>all he has in his fridge that i can eat quietly is an enormous 1 pound block of cheddar cheese
>eat a huge wedge of it

Ruined my entire fucking week in the course of 5 hours.

>>36950275
Why not just go swimming or something?

>>36955517
Do you mind sharing what your diet routine is? I'm also assuming that the right idea is to do essentially no exercises right? Maybe just some resistance training?

>>36957138
Gotta refeed once in a while to keep it going. All that cheese might block up your digestion and make your weight artificially higher for a bit, but you're gonna make it bro.

It is 1:30am and I'm starving, I've met my 1500 calories, what can I do to get rid of the hunger?

>>36957221
stop being a faggot

>>36957221
Drink water. Thats all i got

>>36957221
You don't get rid of hunger. You learn to accept it and stop whining.

>>36954480
>two words
>HIIT

>>36957221
Eat some salary

>forget to go shopping
>figure I'll just have to have more eggs for dinner
>crack three eggs in a pan
>lifting tonight so why not
>realise there's a burger patty in the fridge
>throw that in too
>just finished now eating a banana

Well shit

>>36953385
I was onside until
>while browsing the Trump general on /pol/
Confirmed never gonna make it

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>>36958350

>>36951761
yes, but calories derived from protein are the most satiating. Its easy to eat tons of rice or oatmeal, harder to eat that amount in chicken or steak.

Fat: 1 gram = 9 calories
Protein: 1 gram = 4 calories
Carbohydrates: 1 gram = 4 calories
Alcohol: 1 gram = 7 calories

>>36957221
tea nigga no sugar

>>36957221
cigarettes

>>36953804
nice

being 300 lbs, pretending i can lose 1lb a week i can be healthy in two~ years?

>>36950823
Butter, oil, fatty cuts of meat, nuts.

I just ate some chocolate and cookies and now I feel sick. It's like my body isn't even adjusted to this kind of shit anymore.

>>36959808
You can lose way more than 1 a week, easily

I started at 230 and dropped 10 lbs in the first two weeks then gradually slowed down, you could easily drop 3+/week for months

about 12-13%

trying to get to 10%

tell me how to handle carbs, im trying low carb with a deficit but im starting to feel like shit

what do?

>>36957952
yeah eat your fucking cash

Lads, i'm fairly new and want some advice on how to approach cutting.

I was never fat in my life. I was always into all kinds of sports from handball, riding bmx to rowing.

But for the last two years i heaven't work out and was always drinking.

The ''fattest'' point was in october when i was 87/88kg (i'm 185cm tho) and i didin't looked fat no one believed me i weighted that much.

I decided to go to gym and was doing meme machines and cardio at first just to se how fast i could lose weight, and i got to 78kg by new year.

Since then i actually started lifting and got some pretty decent gains in 4 months or so, but i don't know now how to approach to cutting because i'm not a big eater.

I don't like most of the vegetables, altho' i can eat some of it but can't stand the raw salads, tomatoes, cucumbers and stuff.

So is it okay cutting diet to eat oats in the morning and only a relatively healthy dinner and to start again with cardio?

>>36960189
thanks for the encouragement

>>36950400
Damn you're right.

Even though "carbs are the enemy" is a meme, it really is impossible to gain weight if you aren't eating many carbs.

I'm T1 diabetic so it's actually kind of interesting that I can see the correlation between daily insulin use (more carbs) and weight gain.

Not really possible t ogain weight not eating carbs.

>be me cutting for a while
>almost ready for summer
>feeling like shit for weeks now
>lot of stuff to do for university
>pushing myself in the gym until I feel like I'm about to puke
>can maintain strength and doing well in university but it mentally drains me
>have mad cravings, tired all the time, everything hurts, think I'm also getting sick
>constantly asking myself why I do this anymore
>look in the mirror and some days I feel like I'm almost at my goal and it motivates me, other days I feel like I'm looking small or fat and I am just wasting my time
>been recently cheating on my diet a bit, still kinda maintaining my kcal deficite but eating too much junk

Today I feel like absolute shit, yesterday I had a ton of stuff to do because I needed to finish a project for university, drive home for an hour and then shortly after eating I worked out around midnight. Additionally to my bruises from working out (I think from DL) I fell on the stairs yesterday and now my knees also hurt but I know I will still DL tomorrow because I have this voice inside of me just pushing me forward no matter what. Sry for the blog but I just needed to write this shit down.

> people still believe in the calories in, calories out maymay
> not just enjoying unlimited fruit (minus bananas) and getting lean
plebs, all of you

>>36951643
dude you are not eating enough food
this better be bait

>>36950275
WOOOHOO!!!! Finally hit my goal weight! Former fatty, 5'10" manlet prince, now weighing 154.5 lbs as of this morning! I'm thinking of cutting down to 152-150 lbs to either make it an even 40 lbs (started at 192 lbs at Xmas), or just to get to a nice round number in "150".

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>>36957221
go to sleep or play video games

>>36951148
This guy is so awkward it physically hurts.

>Almost at calories for the day
>only 4pm, still going to work out
Fuck, running 2100 calories, I believe thats close to 500 deficit, 6'1" 195lbs

I was starving and just ate a whole cups of (shelled) peanuts and a questbar, and now I don't get dinner... what do i do

>>36965768
>Option 1
Do an extra 60-90 minutes of cardio, earn yourself a dinner.

>Option 2
Pour diet coke down your gullet until bedtime, hoping that the gas, sweetness and cancer prove satiating enough.

>Option 3
Take a sleeping pill and go to bed now. Make sure to not fuck up tomorrow.

>>36965829
(I myself am on day 3 of trying to do this without diet soda. It's too fucking difficult. Tomorrow I'm buying 2 big boxes of Diet Pepsi. Fuck it.)

A little over a month in and I've lost 24~ pounds we're gonna make it guys.

n00b question
How long does it take for your stomach to shrink?

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Tfw cutting on 3500 cals.

T thanks

I downed like 3 glasses of water, I gotta still workout. So I am going to go do that.

>Diet pepsi or 17 sounds like it'd work great though

>>36965999
Nice trips

Do you mean the fat or the skin? What are your stats? Height etc?

Skin may or may not reduce in size ever. Being younger and properly hydrated and not losing it too slow, while weight lifting should reduce the chance of a lot of loose extra skin, but if you started over 40% BF you might be fucked either way.

If you're talking just fat, you never know, but by the time you hit mid teens for bodyfat, you should have lost a significant amount of fat from the mid section

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>>36950275
>having trouble cutting last few weeks
>go to grocery and buy fresh sliced chicken
>lean meat, high protein
>let's do this
>eat the entire 1 pound bag, only 650 calories
>get food poisoning
>spend next two days shitting with diarrhea
>lost 3 pounds in a week
>mfw

>>36966265
half of that was probably water weight, the rest was probably split fat/muscle. Not a good way to lose weight

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>>36961190
it's all about counting calories. learn to do that first. then you can expand into other techniques. eat more than TDEE = gain weight. eat less than TDEE = lose weight. end of story.

>>36963245
keep looking in the mirror bro, and focus on a day when you are looking good. usually after chest day pump. remember that time in your head whenever you feel shitty. it will motivate you. keep going.

>>36964221
nice bro. i just hit 151 the other day. i am cutting down after my bulk at 160. my low was 140 last year. if you want abs make sure you are working them.

>>36965829
its tough. drink water that will tend to fill you up but will make you piss a lot and bloat you. consider investing in some beef jerky. great low cal snack. otherwise you just gotta push thru it bro. do you want to be lean for summer or not?

>>36965999
>losing 24 pounds in a month
>u wot m8

anyway, looks depends how fat you were before. 20 pounds overweight? maybe 6 months. 40 pounds overweight? at least a year of dieting. any more than that and you are in for a long haul and some loose skin brah.

>Weigh 272 in late Feb
>Go out with some friends, miss a shot with a wonderful girl because my self esteem about my looks is so fucking low
>Say fuck this, cold turkey all my bad eating habits, do a PPL/R/PPL routine, PSMF, cut out all the juices and carbs and take the necessary vitamins
>Don't count calories but I know that I have to be eating at <1k with a TDEE of 3300+
>Tell myself i'm going to let myself starve and be in eternal pain before I let myself cheat
>If I feel like cheating, I munch down an EC stack and chug a liter of water or go to bed
>Weigh in at 227 today
>Went to the doctor and got a script for phentermine because appetite suppression of EC stack is fading
>Have 50 caps of DNP for when I feel like im ready

I know i'm going about this a terrible way but I absolutely can't stand the person I was 2 months and every day I just feel like my looks, weight, and self confidence are holding me back from acting the way I want. We're all gonna make it bros.

>>36966402
>eating 1000 cal a day

jesus breh, be careful but keep going.

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>>36966387
>20 pounds overweight? maybe 6 months. 40 pounds overweight? at least a year of dieting.

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>>36966480
optimal weight loss is around 1 pound per week. no one will not maintain a 100% efficient diet.

6 months = 24 weeks
12 months = 48 weeks

bretty gud estimates if you ask me

>>36966402

I'm right there on the pain train with you. Went from 315 down to 250 in the past 2 1/2 months with amphetamines, cleanest fucking diet imaginable, and a few short DNP runs. I'm looking to hit about 180 before I start really trying to bulk up(6'4" fatty).

>>36966536
How was your experience with DNP? I havent heard of very many severely overweight people using it in modern day, wondering if it feels too intense due to increased body weight or anything like that

>>36966522
breh theres 52 weeks in a year....

>>36966559

Not really no. first time I used it I was 280. I did 250mg for 3 days and then 500mg for 7 days. Day 8-10 were pretty fucking horrid, but it was all about constant hydration and doing nothing that would overheat me. Both cycles I did were 10 days and i lost about 7 pounds on each. Pretty ridiculous weight loss, and the only real annoyance was how shitty it made sleeping.

Why are some of you cutting so low?

Are you 5'0 or a woman?

No man should cut lower than 1500.

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>>36966580
assume 4 weeks per month you autist

>>36966387
Yeah, I have a gut still, which is annoying. Going to have to lift more and work my abs more WHILE cutting I guess. On the plus side, you can see that I have a "core". It's just very faint. No abs yet tho.

>>36966197
>>36966387
Well I meant more along the lines of meals filling you up more, like less portions.

Right now I'm 6'2 260~, I started around 285. I dropped the water weight quick since I only drink water and skim milk now. No loose skin as of yet, but I plan on weight lifting soon™.

Goal weight is 185 where I float between that and around 190.

>>36966600
what else can you do except cut more calories if you aren't losing weight? you only have so much energy to expend lifting or doing cardio before you injure yourself

you have to realize nattys do not maintain their muscle like a roider does when they cut. nattys TDEE falls much faster and you have to compensate to reach low BF%

>>36966632
>>36966658
yeah you need to lift, otherwise you'll just end up skinny fat. you're really overweight so you can probably get by recomping without eating a lot more.

i recommend taking pictures once a month so you can see the progress. you're gonna be in this for the long haul and will need the motivation

>be me
>Greek orthodox holy week
>fast
>actually godly cut progress

Jesus knew the secrets bois

>>36966688
What do you mean recompping without eating a lot more? As in just lift and maintain the same diet?

>>36966727
you're so fat that you can literally gain muscle while cutting. this is especially true if you're a noob lifter to begin with.

>>36966736
Alright, thanks senpai.

>>36959808
When you're over 300 and you start eating and drinking like a normal person it'll be way faster than 1 a week. Don't cheat and stick with it bro.

>>36959808
Its all about making daily adjustments that you can handle, just make sure you're actively TRYING to change, one small step a day. Even if its something super duper small like cutting down from 5 cans of pepsi a day down to 4 a day; if thats all you can handle then so be it, just make sure you make another small change every day and it all adds up to a lifetime of improvement.

The amount of effort and willpower you put forth are the results you're going to get back.

>>36953188
Same fat bitch here again

I'm eating way more fruits and veggies than meat right now and I'm trying to cut fat. Should I really aim for those macros you said, and is eating more fruits and veggies while eating less meat or should I up my meat and eat less fruits and veggies

And when I join a gym and ball daily this summer, should I change my macros again to more protein?

I'm at 18%bf, can I get to 10% until december with a good calorie deficit? Already lost 6lbs(may not in a month.

how often should I weigh myself? and what time of day do i do it?

>>36966951
I'm
>>36966811


I weight myself every morning. I weigh myself before breakfast, after a cup or so of coffee

>>36966975
you can go fuck yourself it was an actual question

>>36966951
Depends on the type of person you are, I used to weigh myself daily but daily variance in weight would kill me, water weight is a bitch and sometimes discouraging.

I limit myself to weighing in right after waking up and taking a pee/poo, once a week.

>>36951622
Wtf is wrong with u guys.. Mix it with chocolate whey

>>36966951
either every day or once a week, just dont let the daily changes bother you too much if you choose daily

>>36966997
It was an actual answer

>tfw need to cut 3kg more to make me looked decent

>>36966663
but 1,500 cal is for manlets, are you a manlet?

>Running clen to lose the last bit of stubborn belly fat before summer
>Going well, couple of cramps here and there but no big deal
>Wake up late, in a rush to gym before work
>Go and train, do cardio then squats
>A bit dehydrated from the night before, training fasted, little constipated too
>Start warming up on squats, lower back feels a little tight with 60kg, think no problem, do some mobility / foam rolling
>Keep warming up with 2 plate, first rep, slip a disc
>Can't fucking walk properly atm
>Won't be able to train legs for at least a week or two
>Not working for a few days now, so there goes the ~600cal a day I burn with my physical job
>At home, depressed, ate a pizza and some donuts last night

Tried to take a short cut, now I can't fucking lift. FML

>>36966663
Listen you fucking mong, If you're not losing weight cutting at 1,500 calories then its 3 things.

1.You're not measuring/counting calories correctly.
2. Your metoblism is fucked and you should go to the doctor.
3. You're not a man you are a manlet try 1,200 you fucking woman.

>>36966658
Ah, stomach as in, how much food it takes to satiate you.

Suggestion: try a fast. It might be hell for a day, but if you can go to bed one night, and not eat the entire next day, and then eat breakfast the following day, it wont kill you at all.

You can learn a couple of things too, its okay to be hungry. You don't die from not being stuffed. Try eating slower and drinking a lot more water.

Also, eat a ton of broccoli and cauliflower, and other low calorie veggies. They'll help fill you up.

>>36966907
What are you other stats? Height/weight, etc

Basically you are looking to lose about 1% bodyfat per month, with your stats we can figure out how much that is

Third day of PSMF, 900 calories everyday form my usual 4k bulking. Surprisingly I am not even hungry and my bulking moobs are already smaller?

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>>36968267
Yeah, people, if you want meaningful answers, we need your stats. m/f, age , height and weight at minimum. Estimated body fat percentage can help too.

Estimate based off of this picture

>>36968369
How long do you plan on doing that?

Whenever I think I am going to try, I end up just doing keto at like 800 cal deficit, and I can handle that, but 1k calories? Fuck

Have been postponing and postponing my cut.... I just need to cut really like 5-10 lbs and get dem abs, but I've been so lazy about it....

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What are some filling snacks that are low on calories and carbs, but packs some protein?

>>36968380
Untill I reach 10% bf. It's not that hard bro, a lot of bland chicken breast keeps me full while diet coke works as a food suppressant.

>>36968418
low fat deli meats like turkey, ham, etc

High in sodium but you can home cook it and pack it as a snack

>>36950324
If you gain a shit ton of water weight try doing a 2 hr cardio day. It helps cut it fast

>>36950823
>has gut
>bulking
>on paleo

Good job, boyo. Nothing wrong with this plan at all

I'm not taking the cut seriously this year at all m8 i swer

Can't seem to get into it, probably because it's still cold out and I'm not feeling the summervibe yet

Not saying I'm eating like shit though

>>36950924
>assuming everyone is as poor as you

>>36951622
Mix it with a scoop of flavored whey. It is insanely good that way.

>>36968419
>bland chicken breast
Get some spices you nigger.

I quit junk food cold turkey easily with chicken breast with lemon pepper, tasted better than shit I usually ate.

Get a rice cooker with a steam tray and toss some celery, chopped shallots, thinly sliced carrots, and peppercorns in with the rice and steam the chicken (cut it up small), greens, and some mushrooms in the steam compartment. Mix it up once it's done and add some low sodium soy sauce or more spices to taste. Good as fuck and filling as hell. I eat it with chop sticks to help myself slow down and feel full before the food is gone. Steamed chicken can smell a bit funny but it tastes fine and adds a ton of flavor to the rice, way more than chicken stock ever did for me.
If you're cutting carbs, stir fry it all and mix it with fresh greens instead of rice, don't even need salad dressing with the mushroom sauces, add some green onion fresh after, or stir fry it if that's your thing.

I can eat most spinach mixes straight if I need a snack (arugula blend is best), but a light vinaigrette is a good stand in for creamier dressings. I grew up really poor though, so food with nutrients is like candy to me, and feeling full helps ease my anxiety so I also drink a ton of water with it.

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>>36950275
cut for a month and a half
very little carbs in breakfast and lunch
weight hardly changes, but trading some fat for muscle (oh sweet noob gainz)
decide this week i have the will to go hard for one month. no carbs at all, just protein and fat. eat only between 12 am and 10 pm.
still lifting big (5RM)
will I make it or am I going to die? I just need 10 more pounds.

>>36950679
should I eat them right before training so the sugar won't have time to turn into fat?

>>36968335
5'7", 167lbs, male, 24 years old, eating at 1400~1600cal. My gym stats is still low since I started gym this month.

>go grocery shopping
>go to the frozen section and stare at ice cream for 2 minutes
>walk away while longingly looking back at the chocolate PB swirl

>cook something up that's supposed to be my lunch for the next week
>eat it within 2 days
fuck

>>36970636

How did your weight hardly change while cutting? you're clearly eating too much.

Cutting out carbs is a silly idea, your body takes time to adjust to using fat as it's primary energy source and during the transition you will feel like shit for a good week

>>36971255
I was considerably less energetic and less focused. I really wasn't eating a lot, less than what I ate when I was at a steady state, and with almost all of the carbs cut out.

yep, I'm feeling it. it's bad.

>party tonight everyone's going to
>last big thing before exams
>cutting hard atm
>"h-haha, yeah of course I'm going"
Fuck brehs I can't take all these empty calories, what do?

>>36971412
do cocaine instead

>>36971412
smoke weed, though >>36971563
is better for your metabolism.

>>36951653
Chobani is great

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I lost 10lbs in about 3 weeks with a good diet and exercise. Two days ago I was so overwhelmingly hungry I ate bs all day to just fill the void, then planned on getting back on track the day after. The next day I felt so bad I fasted that day. During the night I was so starving I ate my housemates poptarts in my sleepy stupor. Two of them. 800 cals, at the least. and a cookie. Now I'm awake and feel like shit, so I'm tempted to not eat the rest of today and tomorrow as well. But I know i'll get so hungry and end up in the same spot again. Should I just let what's done be done and get back to my proper diet and just deal with not being in a caloric deficit today but not being overwhelmed by hunger and hop back onto the gain train, or should I just suck it up and not eat and then pick up where I left off tomorrow?

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down 3.5kg this month

>>36973083
Don't punish yourself, that's how diets fail.
Just get back on track.