Fat Burners

>>36888942
amphetamines gives you the same effect but a lot cheaper

>>36888942
DNP

I bought some yohimbine but haven't used it cause apparently you have to take it fasted, do fasted cardio, and then fast for 4 more hours. All while being on a cut. Doesn't seem worth it to me.

Heard it gets u hype though is this true?

>>36889259
Fast for four hours after taking it? Pfft... an hour or so is fine.

I am currently taking Blue Up two caps in the morning, then I eat my first meal of the day about two hours later.

Anyone mind sharing an EU source with me? Recently lost mine

>>36889448
An hour is not fine you fucking troll

taking yohimbine on a 16/8 IF, works great. Doesn't make me jittery I can even sleep on the stuff. i just walk a mile quickly for cardio. Seriously everyone should cut with yohimbine and IF16/8 with 500 cal deficit

>>36889448
Is cardio necessary? Fasted cardio sounds terrible, and i've been running for 8 years. Haven't in a month or two though, just eating less and lifting moar.

>>36889620
You do LISS. Literally take an hour long walk.

Just do an ec stack, I'm 6 days into my first one and it's literally heaven. It's like I just put in the cheat code to cutting.

>>36889495
How long is the right time then?

>>36889656
Problem is actually finding ephedrine...

>>36889646
>>36889259
>>36889448
You have to have not eaten for hours before taking it. You have to be completely fasted aka zero insulin in the bloodstream. Insulin completely counteracts the effect.
Also there's no required time to be fasted after taking it, but you have to do LISS cardio like a light jog, biking, fast walking, slow rowing, etc for at least an hour. The longer you wait to break the fast, the more effective it will be because it will burn more fat.

Also you're a faggot OP if you think it's the yohimbine making you aggressive.

>>36889711
I'm in canada so I can just order it online. If you're in the states you can get bronkaid behind the counter at Wal-Mart

you develop a tolerance to it after a few weeks of even very infrequent use... I have reached a point it no longer has the obvious fat receptor blocking activity and fat is not being used as it was at first

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>>36889736
>forgot pic

>>36889736
Not aggressive just moody like I noticed I'm way more emotional and mood swingy is it just a placebo effect in my brain? I read it fucks with bipolar people. I'm not bipolar but it runs on my dads side of the family

>>36889743
I can't find bronkaid either

>>36889759
>fat receptor blocking activity
What? You realize it makes receptors available so the body can more readily convert the fat to glucose right?

>>36889763
Lolwut

I'm a grill and most of my fat goes to my stomach and under my arms, my legs are muscley as fuck and my ass is great, v confused

Can i take this with vyvanse?

>>36889766
You're either bipolar or you're not, there's no "oh it runs in my dad's side so I'm slightly affected".
It's a placebo. The mood swings is probably from cutting b/c of the lack of carbs.
I'm a zombie on 20g carbs a day right now.

>>36889780
>having excessive glucose in the blood
that hasnt ever lead to anything bad ever senpai

>>36889768
Whatever you do don't buy it online. Bronkaid is like $14 for a 60 pack at Walgreens.

>>36889768
Can you get sudafed?

>>36889825
I can't find it at Walgreens, cvs, or walmart, man. The first two i've only checked their store's website but still..

>>36889793
Then you have terrible genetics?
The point of that in the pic is saying where your body stores brown fats (fats for long term storage). Ideally the male stores his in abdomen and female in the legs/butt. Weak genes and temporary fat gain causes it to be stored in other places. Temporary fat (white fat aka fat while bulking and fat before it's converted to brown fat) can be stored elsewhere.

>>36889801
Are you retarded? It doesn't put glucose in the blood. Yohimbine makes receptors available to be bonded to to convert to glucose to be used as energy in a fasted state. Holy fuck.

>>36889835
Not sure. Otc? What's the difference?

>>36889836
Go to any pharmacy and look for the ingredient ephedrine on the fucking box. Usually (like at CVS) you pick up a card and take it to the pharmacy to actually get the box since you have to sign for it with a driver's license.

>>36889768
Check all your local pharmacies and stores with pharmacies, they have it everywhere from what I hear. Also there not allowed to ask you what it's for, just bring an id and be ready to sign a disclaimer saying you won't make meth out of u.

Watch this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahSs65OkoDQ

Jerry Brainum covers basically everything on all the best fat-loss supplements

>>36889836
For whatever reason none of the drug stores advertise that they sell it online. I thought the same thing thing as you when I looked. I can almost promise you that they will carry it at Walgreens or CVS. I'm asthmatic and it definitely has a legitimate use when my chest gets tight. All you gotta do is look in the allergy/cold isle and there will be a card you take to a pharmacist. They will then take your ID and make you sign shit that you won't make meth with it. If they don't have the card just go to the pharmacist and ask if they carry it.

>>36889259
It's recommended you take it with caffeine and your body being in an insulin fasted state and do at least 30-60 mins of Low intensity cardio. I'd recommend eating 3 hours after you've taken it but like >>36889736 said
>the longer you wait to break the fast, the more effective it will be because it will burn more fat.
But you will get bad anxiety at first so be wary of that too but it goes away after a while. It'd work for me I lost a lot of BF in a short amount of time.

>>36889838
Well, great lower body genes, apparently. Well that and years of running. But i was a very fat kid and then starved myself thin AF for a while so may have fucked something up.

I've had people suggest that it's loose skin in large part, but i can't really tell. Arms maybe.

>>36889882
Ok, thanks for the heads up!

>>36889906
Yeah dude no problem. Enjoy!

>>36889795
I wouldn't recommend pairing any of these with a stimulant stronger than caffeine.

>>36889843
Also over the counter. Different brand, different active ingredient. Some people use it in place of bronkaid but you have to take a lot more.

>>36889898
If you had great lower body genes then you'd store the fat there. This is why the average woman is in women's studies and not a STEM field.
You're fat, so you should cut.

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>>36889259
I only strictly fast for two hours after ingesting Yohimbine HCL. My reasoning for this is due to the extremely short half life of Yohimbine HCL.

Source:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3653227

So in roughly 36 minutes from ingestion the dosage is half'd. Over the course of two hours the dosage drops to like 1.25mg. If i'm hungry at the two hour mark I just eat. If not I'll wait till I am hungry and eat.

>>36889953
Nah i'm not fat, but i've been cutting, stalled, and lost my period. Fuckin freaky shit. Not sure where to go from here, because i'm not chub but i'm not ripped either. And apparently i've become slightly anemic.

>>36890008
I can't speak about anemia since I'm a man, but I stalled recently and the only way I was able to push past it was take my daily calorie goal and reduce it by 200. So I was at 1,500 and now aim for 1,300. Since I've done this I've begun to lose weight again.

>>36889743
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>>36890069
I've already reduced, shit. At this.point i'd be at 900-1200/day, that reallllly can't be healthy.

Guys cam get anemia, it's an iron deficiency (or red blood cells but iron in my case) the period thing is only supposed to happen when your BF is too low, but no way that could be me yet.

>>36890215
On second thought, can i reasonably be safe eating that little?

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>>36888942
how to use yohimbine HCL for max fat burn/test gain combo

fat burn:

1. take it while fasted (4 hours of 0 calorie intake minimum) and combine with caffeine for max effect (maybe even ephedrine if you wanna go turbo-spaz)

2. run for 40-60 minutes

3. 0 calorie intake for 1-4 hours afterwards. longer is better but you can't go wrong with 2-3 hours


test gains:

1. have a home gym

2. take it when you're nearing the middle of your routine (also fasted)

3. do your next set

4. fire up some porn

5. jack off for 3-5 minutes, but don't cum

6. do your next set

7. repeat steps 4-6 until all exercises are complete

8. finish yourself off and enjoy the cum blast

9. 0 calorie intake for 1-4 hours afterwards

so what you do is combine the above 2 methods. i like to do the following:

monday: short run, recover, weight lifting (take YHCL near middle of routine)
tuesday: long run, YHCL before hand
wednesday: same as monday
thursday: same as tuesday
friday: same as monday
saturday and sunday: full rest

enjoy your fat burn/test gains. pic related: have a quick test spike on the house.

What if you do cardio does it still work? Work better? I've never used one of these supplements I'd actually give it a try.

>>36890251
I mean you'll definitely lose weight at that caloric amount. You can try it a few days and see how it goes. There really doesn't seem to be any life-threatening side effects of eating very little that I've experienced. However you will probably experience some muscle loss as well.

Clen or go home.

>>36889646
Ain't nobody got time fo dat

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>>36889763
>combine with 200mg of caffeine
>do NOT mix with other stimulants