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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDxbbWNMR1o
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Asked this in previous thread,
>>36821304
So something like this?

Mon: C&J, clean pulls
Tue: Front squat, Good morning
Wed: Snatch, snatch pull
Thur: rest
Fri: C&J, clean pull
Sat: Back squat, romanian deadlift

How am i gonna learn snatch and c&j if i only get to do them 1 or 2 times a week? Isn't this a bit stupid way to learn the lifts?
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>>36841436
na it works senpai, desu i found when i lower frequency it means i take each sesh more srs and actually focus and learn more, plus sesh fully dedicated to one lift helps too
do pulls for tech and for strength, sometimes both (tech pulls first obv)
id swap fsq and bsq, add rack holds or jerk dips on tue
rdls are pulls, so shud go on cj day sometimes if u rly want to do them
good mornings r gay
also add like 20-30min bbing/core every day
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>>36841436
>Good morning
shit exercise desu

do back ext instead
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>>36841449
How about doing it this way:

1: C&J, clean pull, FS + brief core&bb stuff
2: Snatch, snatch pull, Overhead squat + brief core & bb stuff

Then take a day rest, and do it again?
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>>36841489
yep, this is the simple prog in the everett book basically. Don't add complexity until you need to
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>>36841423
What's you guys diet when you bulk? I have a hard time escaping auschwitz.

Also, are the nike romaleos good shoes?
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>>36841545
>What's you guys diet when you bulk?
eat about 1kg of cooked rice a day and you'll be big and stronk in no time

not even kidding
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>>36841558
>Being this chinese
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>>36841576
I'm not even chinese but it worked

I struggled to gain weight aswell and the only thing I did was eat more rice and it damn sure worked

I went from eating rice daily to half a kg a day to 1kg a day
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>>36841601
Not even that expensive. Gonna try this on a bulk
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>>36841449
but pas wont pulling heavy on monday hurt your squat on tuesday?
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>>36841459
Lovchev does them a lot, guess what

He's strong unlike u
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>>36841601
Jesus. I can barely make it to 200g. Do you just eat that stuff and nothing else?
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>>36841823
of course not

eat your normal diet and add the rice
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>>36841489
change ohs to bsq
i also prefer the classic lift/squat day split as i find it lets u focus more
>>36841679
no
as long as the weight feels heavy its fine
stop worrying about linear progression or whatever and just do weights which feel heavy
if you cant go heavier over time then reassess your programming
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gym i train my gf at is finally getting a tech bar tomorrow
time to move beyond the broomstick guys yeyeyeye olimpics in no time
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>>36841939
Not with you coaching she won't

Try someone elite like deliuge
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>>36841939
I think if deliuuge would coach her she would reach olympics by 2020
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>>36841658
you should def try it, its cheap af too
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welp, I have quad tendonitis. What do I do now? roll it out? do that half squat for a few minutes that the chink coaches advice?
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>>36842472
take a rest.
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do you guys use straps on pulls
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>>36842219
>>36842235
Kek
Deliuge is a meme
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Le memes
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>>36842600
Yeah. I never used to but since I starting training more srs I want save my hands

Also I tore 2 calluses and I don't want pulls to fuck me
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>>36842750
>tfw ripped my hands off of heavy snatch pulls because I didnt want to be a pussy
wish I never made that mistake
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>>36842741

Nice anterior pelvic tilt.

We're equally tall and have an equally unbalanced pelvis/stomach.

Klokov is literally my future in every way.
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>>36842741
>those mannerisms when he walks out
>that display of strength and skill

Is Klokov the epitome of manliness? I mean, he even makes spandex pants look good when worn by a man.
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ty pent
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How much are you all CJ and Snatching?

Height, weight, age?
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>>36842777
Srs. I have no shame in using straps for both block work and pulls now

Also, moisturiser + pumis stone is the way. If your calluses are level with the rest of your hand they won't tear open
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>>36843117

snatch

175lb at 210lb ;_;
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How to stop pulling into body during snatch?
Just practice not doing it?

My coach noticed that I was pulling it into my hips instead of my hips coming through.
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>>36843117
Sn 59, CJ 70, 158 cm 60/61 bw, age 18
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>>36843427
ask your coach
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>>36843535
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFCqUvgXUB8


pr check?
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>>36843427
Um
Bar is meant to come to hips
Not hip to bar
Is ur coach crossfit?
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>>36841919
Will do. Any suggestions how to program squatting? I'm afraid that squatting ~5 times a week could kill me, if i'm not cautious. But i really like to keep it simple 2, i appreciate your help.
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>>36843698
Maybe the coach meant, that he's not "scooping", but just deadlifting the bar to hips and then extending.
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>>36843930
That's literally impossible to do

Your knees would do the double knee bend if you snatch properly no matter what you do, which is what "scooping" is
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I was put on AD (effexor) because I'm very depressed and anxious will I still be able to progress (I'm at the end of noob gains I guess) and do heavy workouts while taking it?
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>>36843427
More knee bend?
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>>36842741
so what is the difference between this and just doing very heavy OHP?
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>>36844380
Proprioception and you have to use your core better doing this

Proprioception is very important for wl

And if you can't do a proper hspu you'll know very quickly why (mostly due to very weak core)
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>>36844442
interesting are the any other exercises people should add for proprioception?
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>>36841823
1 small cup of rice is 200 g i guess. 1 kg leads to nothing but massive weight gain and risk of beetus is there. source - staple diet for me. someone trolling hard and those chinese athlete aint taking that much.
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>>36844564
Some gymnastics shit, this is why most countries get their wl from gymnast kids

Look up hollow body progression, it's a good core workout too, I don't use a belt anymore since I started doing gymnastics shit and I feel stronker

Look up China training videos I think they do more gymnastics bullshit than other countries
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>>36843117

you just KNOW her asshole smells like hot curried garbage with week-old fish sitting at the bottom
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>>36844572
small guy detected, ignore this post
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>>36843907
wait, i thought your a/b program was 3 days a week
lol doing that 5 times a week is too much
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>>36844182
>>36843930
Maybe the coach meant he was firing it into and off his hips ala Jon norf?
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>>36843117
SN 60 CJ 80
180cm 80kg 24
2 months doing oly and mostly do technique now.
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>>36841449
>>36841459
all the russians do good mornings
they r good brahs
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>>36845172
Ye but pas and everyone else here is on the chinky bandwagon

Russians r dumb remeber they do too much all u should do is tech and squat

They don't even depress scaps
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>>36845202
dont forget to do loads of badybalding :^)
also chinese like pulls

i just dont kno how to program good mornings so i say theyre dumb and dont do them
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>>36844591
>this is why most countries get their wl from gymnast kids
actually it's because they have short limbs which are mechanically advantageous to wl
or they'd recruit good sprinters (easier to notice explosiveness vs gymnasts)

gymnastic stuff is just really good for building a solid base of overall fitness since you need to be mobile, and plenty of the progressions translate well to strength feats

kinda why they include sports as gpp for youth lifters. it's pretty much plyometrics, speed/agility, and aerobic work in one package.
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>>36845390
Most countries don't recruit from other sports at the level that the kid is a 'gymnast'

They just recruit kids all over

It's only like USA and GB who recruit already established athletes because wl isnt big enough.
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>>36843117
5'9
69
18-1
60/90
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how do you guys feel about keto
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>>36845601
meme diet

absolutely terrible for performance
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>>36841436
you dont need to them everyday to progress... nor do you need to squat 5x/week as in >>36843907

since you're a beginner, you'll do better with quality over quantity

if you don't like the rotation of snatch/clean & jerk, do:

mon - snatch
tue - clean & jerk
wed - squat
thu - rest
fri - snatch, clean & jerk
sat - squat
sun - rest

practice tech at light weights (say singles @ 60%) on mon, tue
do pulls after, but dont go heavy yet
on fri do some heavier singles, and cut down volume of both lifts by half

wed squat get some volume in (e.g. 5x5 or whatever)
sat squat try to increase weight (ramp to heavy set of 5)

add in assistance + mobility work and you're good.
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>>36844714
But if i drop back squat, will i manage? I want to go to the gym atleast 5 times a week.
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>>36845643
Man, i appreciate so much that you're helping. This sounds like a reasonable compromise. Should i do either front squat or back squat, or both? I think it would be easier to increase the weight on the one you had volume with earlier in the week?
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>>36842741

fuggggg

>>36844380

Much harder on your core.
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>>36845694
its a highly individual thing, as i dont know your strengths or weaknesses

keep in mind 1:1 back squat to front squat ratio might not be 'balanced' if you're weak in certain positions, etc

optimal might be 3:2, or 2:1, etc.

try back squat on wed, front squat on sat

easier to do volume in bs for beginners

work up to 3-5 reps, then drop some weight and do backoff sets for 5x5 or something

then on sat work upto heavy doubles/triples on fs, no backoff sets

>why not do volume both days if you're doing them once per week each?
better to start with less so you don't burnout and start to hate wl
then you can adjust as needed if progression stops
doesn't destroy your legs for monday's snatch workout due to accumulated fatigue
etc etc
plus gives you room for more gpp stuff (which you need to be doing as a beginner)
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>>36845643
swap tue/wed and you have a standard chinese intensity cycle week
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>>36845864
Well i managed to do russian squat program, so i don't think that i will start to hate oly

Best frontsquat: paused 3x112.5kg
Best backsquat: 5x132.5kg

I think that the workouts will be quite easy for the first two months, since i'm probably using babby weight with c&j and snatch. I'm not going to add more weight, if my technique doesn't allow it.

I'll start with back squats on wed and fronts on sat and see how it goes!

>work up to 3-5 reps, then drop some weight and do backoff sets for 5x5 or something
This actually sounds clever. It always feel more light and easy, when you get to drop weight after a heavy set
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>>36845910
wouldnt heavy squats mess with c&j day
?
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>>36845943
theres a 48 hour break in between so it wont unless your a pussy
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>>36845943
na its ok senpai
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>>36845972
24 u fuckboy

>>36845984
ok i trust u
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>>36841423
Can somebody check my form? Pic related.
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>>36845519

Got sources on this?
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Some big nerd posted this awhile ago
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>>36846069
Some bigger nerd posted this too
Hopefully it will give u guys an idea when it says do 12 or more sets
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>>36846069
lol senpai that was my program ages ago
sets included warmups and its not as good as having tue/sat only squats+squat assist
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>>36846088
lad notice how they only do around 3 top sets and 3 sets at a weight a bit lighter than that, ie like 6 working sets
its just a different notation
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>>36846045
Nothing concrete. Just from looking at foreign athletics and sports club, they often have a weightlifting club. Kids will join and most will have a go at everything. Germany has this with alot of sports. Multi sports clubs aren't really in the culture of places like usa
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>>36846102
>>36846108
But i want to so classics everyday!

One of the hasslefree guys told us that the team trains with 3 squatting days alternating from back squats and front squats with 2 doing classics

I think its best to be simplistic
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>>36846175
Simple is good yes especially when you train alone

I have made good gains on the basic program one of the gyms I goto give out, it's basically just classics+squats+pulls but it does feature block work

But none of this catalyst floating hanging backflip snatch deadlift squat
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>>36846102
So can you swear that i can learn the classis in less than a lifetime, if i only do them 2 times a week like this >>36845643

Because i always thought that you should hit them as much as possible when beginning
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>>36846259
spending quality time is the most important aspect, and this ensures you spend quality time on the lifts
you can do bar work at the end of every session if you want too
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First time Posting video here.
I'm learning Snatches and I'm realising I'm still pretty bad at this.
Please tell me what to fix/how to fix, to get gud.
First thing i will start with is pulls to get my leading hips fixed. what else besides praticing and practicing more?
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>>36846928
slow down
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>>36846928
Lmao git gud
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>>36846928
Correct me if im wrong, but i dont think you're supposed to straight leg deadlift it
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>>36846928
your ass shoots up

you're impatient

bar flies out in front of you

yadayadayada
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>>36846928
>First thing i will start with is pulls to get my leading hips fixed

Its caused by weak quads. Do you squat at all?
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>>36847000
You've become a real arrogant asshole since you started claiming you're a coach'
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>>36847086
kek @ coach saying lmao git gud

Not much different than the average fitizen
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>>36846928

Your positions are so fucked up that internet advice or a simple "go practice x" isn't going to cut it. Get someone that knows what they are doing, and have them watch you and preferably actively readjust your positioning as you do segment pulls. Do this again, and again, and again, until it's second nature and you don't have to think about it.
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>>36846928
It's a meme but seriously learn to snatch the bar because snatching like that is not a good thing regardless of weight
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>>36846928
Just watch the bar path. You pull it into you, try to move around it as opposed to moving it around you. The bar path should be as straight as possible.
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>>36847093
He will claim he's just memeing and he coaches his 'athletes' properly

He's just become arrogant as fuck, I dun give a shit how long he spent being ignored in the corner of a Chinese gym desu
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>>36847116
bet his lifts are shit too lol
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>>36847086
Just banter lad
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>>36847093
I ain't here to give advice anymore, just here for the memes desu yo
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>>36847140
Your bants is shit tho
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>>36847157
:^(((
I'll work on it senpai
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>>36846990
as in slow down first pull?
>>36847042
nope totally not. first time video taping it and im just getting a hint of how bad my perception of the movement is.
>>36847048
yes
>>36847055
i bs almost double bw at 155. fs is at 135. i thought that was decent enough for a start.
i guess its more at how bad i perceived myself.
>>36847098
this would be a good idea if i had someone available. eill work on positions and videotaping it tho.
>>36847104
thought i had that. but i will work on that and also video tabe it to see if i do the same shit there.
>>36847106
will do thanks.
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>>36847181
well almost double bw at 155 isnt even 3pl8 m8
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>>36847181
theres no point critiquing anything when you're moving too fast to fix anything, and theres too much to fix
you need to relearn the whole movement, go back to a stick and move slowly until people here think you can do something resembling a snatch
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>>36847176
Off yourself.
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>>36847217
i think he means 155kg bsquat 135kg fsquat but i could be wrong
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>>36845172
>>36845202

dint we have the same exact two posts folowing each other few threads back

fcking retards
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>>36847224
deliug looks more groce than that
>>36847181
also i have low hope for how ugly your squat looks
post that sometime
also STOP TRYING TO SNATCH ANY WEIGHT until you can do something that looks like a proper snatch
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>>36847224
Dam sik abs bro
I wish I had abs :^(((
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>>36846045
yeah his ass
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>>36847106
>You pull it into you
> try to move around it

prime example of someone who doesn't know what he talmbout giving advice

man u should put a name on u just qualified
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>>36847221
>>36847244
Thanks Pas.i learned squatting and also the whole oly stuff barefoot. oly shoes are new to me and could be part of the problem. so i will go back to learning basics, with the shoes on.
will post squats when i get a video of it.
until then position work with my trusty broomstick.
thanks again
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>>36847086
leave my husbando alone pls
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>>36847464
post vids of your position work sometime
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Just realised my deep core is very weak. Started doing hollow body hold progressions now, I've heard good things about it.

Feelsgood
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>>36847546

Shill.
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>>36846928

Slow tf down. Seriously. It looks like youre trying to lift as fast as humanly possible without caring whether you hit the correct positions or not.

Deload to just the bar or a broomstick if you have to and move the bar across every position as painstakingly slow as possible. You should be getting sore/tired just by doing that because of how slow youre going. Once you perfect the snatch at x0.05 real speed, go a tiny bit faster. After a few weeks of this, you should be able to go full speed and hit all the correct positions 100% of the time.

Watch these for help.
https://youtu.be/L6SjuAOjMEk
https://youtu.be/t4DlbzKziJM
https://youtu.be/gOEVmzKUhQ0
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>>36847269
then lose weight you fat chinaman
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>oly weightlifting general
>none of you can pull even close to oly weight
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>>36841436
You should snatch twice a week and clean and jerk once a week if you're only going to do the lifts three days a week. The snatch is much harder for beginners to learn and takes less time to recover from than the clean and jerk. You'd be better off doing something like Catalyst's beginner program, 70s big's transition program, or Dan John's beginner program as opposed to random shit prescribed on a Cambodian cartoon forum.
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>>36846928
nigga looks like a slinky
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>>36847904
the idea is u alternate them m/w/f, so 1 week u do 2 sn 1 cj, other 2 cj 1 sn lad
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>>36847897

Let's see your 500lb CJ, fatty.
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>>36847897

say "oly" again
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>>36847991
>>36847897

Hell, let's see you sumo five hundo.
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who is strongest current trip? Is it durkz?
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I was asking about how to compete in the last OLY general.

But the fact that none of you can CJ over 260lbs makes me hesitant to take your advice.
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>>36848089
resident butterball Commisar competes
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>>36848089
then dont ask?
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>>36848089

join weightlifting federation, register for competition
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>>36848089
Watch me clean and jerk 353lbs at nats..
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>>36848089
ohohoh i clean and jerked over 260lbs once
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>>36848089

>oly
>lbs
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>>36848116
Lol didn't you just reinjure your back
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>>36848123
sure you did buddy
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>>36848162
no look it even says in my instagram description
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>>36848116

Same guy youre replting to. Very impressive.

How much do you bench, back squat, deadlift, and front squat?

I'm trying to get an idea of what range you need to be in to come close to 350lb cj
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>>36848173

What's your Instagram, Penis ass sucker
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>>36848097

I'm fairly new to the oly threads. Is commisar a tripfag? I weigh 170 and could cut 10lbs probably.
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>>36848255
Pas' isnta is
deliuge
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>>36848301
omg dont give it away
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>>36841423
It's easier for short people....
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>>36848340
>being a lanklet
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>>36848329

Ching ching chi chi chin dong fong wong ching ling sung chun?
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>>36848089
>wants to compete
>gets told murrikan 85s can c&j 180+
>whines about having to "be klokov"
>gets told he doesn't have to medal to compete
>waaaah fuk u owg

did you join the football team in hs and complain you werent starting qb in 2 months as well?

you have a shit attitude and you'll never get anywhere in this sport (or life)
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>>36848089
but my best is 135kg :/
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>>36848479

No that's not what happened.

You're not even going to qualify for nationals unless you can CJ 350 in adult male category for 77kg. Even higher I believe for 80kg.

How exactly is that "competing" if I cant even qualify? 350lbs is a lot of fucking weight, especially for a lanklet.
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>>36848579
You don't have to compete at nationals baka
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>>36848604

Then where do I compete
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>>36848613
Regional and state meets ofc
Not every meet is a national meet
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>>36848613

Instagram
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What does your guys oly routine look like? Those of you hitting big numbers. 250cj plebs need not respond
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>>36848613
World's
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>>36848765

World's?
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>>36848741
Someone please troll this faggot into doing bulg so he wrecks himself and never shitposts again
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>>36848778

Why do you want me to wreck myself? What did I do? I'm just asking for advice.

I just get responses from dyels telling me to go to nationals like it's no big deal
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>>36848794
Lol leave
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>>36848925

What did I do?
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>>36849070
Born with low iq
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>>36848085
It's hwan
>>36848089
I'll have you know i block cleaned 262.233lbs with a squat suit and wraps. I also jerked 259.121lbs with a slingshot
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>>36849099

God damn 99% of fit doesn't know much of anything apparently. Apparently all you snarky fat fucks and skeletors came over from Reddit and ruined this board.
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>>36848274
this is him
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>>36849160
Lmao
/fit/ has always been like this get over it lad
Source: been on /fit/ since 2011
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>>36849148

What is your best banded jerk?
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>>36848234
u need to squat about half of what i do.
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>>36848136
its fine. i did injure it but i did pulls the next day with a belt and it works okay.
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>>36849262

OK what are your lift numbers?
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>>36849239
2011 was the cancer year
09 here
I never understood how it went from "go back to /b/ you retarded faggot" to "REDDIT PLS LEAVE"
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>>36849283

Because people that go to Reddit shill 4chan. And specifically on subreddits like /r/fitness and weightloss they shill /fit/. Now they come here for "le great advice" but don't actually want to do the work.

I've gone to Reddit myself but the difference is I never bought into their whiny Reddit ideas, which is why I got banned probably two dozen times.
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>>36849337
There hasn't been any change of quality of posting. It's always been shit.

People like you are the exact reason why.

>which is why I got banned probably two dozen times
I bet you take /pol/ shit seriously too. Gonna lift to protect the white race, bro?

You're a fucking sperg. Go do broz's program and commit suicide please.
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>>36849386

Oh look it's that autistic redditor that brings up /pol/ in every single thread.

They must've really done a number on your ego.
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>>36849397
>le reddit is here for my memes guiz

Nah, I go on /pol/ and enjoy it for what it is - a source of entertainment. It's unfortunate people like you grew up with poor father figures and have to latch onto anything you can to give yourself an identity.
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>>36849455

Lol what the fuck are you even talking about? What does any of this have to do with /oly/?
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>>36849677
he means ur never gonna be good at wl cuz ur daddy left
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>>36849694

Sure is underage b& in here
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jon norf pretty funny senpai

+reply if it make u laff :DD

https://www.instagram.com/p/BEZ6L-pi9cB/
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who here lifts fasted and how do you do it, thought I was gonna die yesterday maxing out fsquat then supposed to snatch on empty stomach

>>36849749

keked at 3rd pull
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lost my riddum 2day

still pr'd tho :D
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>>36850284
don't lift fasted lol

it wont work well with the kinda routines you're doing (catalyst online iirc?)

just do carb cycling + timing
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Rare Dima
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a year ago this kid was snatching 94

now he's at an easy 120

wtf

https://www.instagram.com/_j_wizzle/
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>>36850338

yeah taking a break from catalyst while my back heals, and I have all this professional stuff coming up and my business attire is a shade too small, so cutting a little
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Sure is dyel in here
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>>36850810

Post bod.
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>>36850818

I'm trying to learn but apparently I'm just learning from people even weaker than me
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>>36850833

unless you're somehow snatching 80 as a beginner I doubt it
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>>36850833
i snatch 120 lmao cunt
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>>36850875

>80kg

What am I, a fucking 15 year old?
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>>36850833

Post bod and stats.
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>>36847366
Watch his bar path though homes. He's pulling the bar to his hip, making the bar path inefficient. If he moves his knees under the bar, the bar will make contact at upper thigh. This way however, allows the bar to remain with upward trajectory.
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>>36851087
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2nKyDcppV0

not everyone can pull straight due to limb and torso length, vardanian is a prime example

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGdrq7FonYc

:40

ilya is another good example of someone who still sweeps the bar in from the start

just cause you read one article about how great this new technique is doesn't mean it's correct

that's why i said u don no wat u talmbout cause you clearly dont HOMESLICE
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>>36851087
>If he moves his knees under the bar,

so you're saying the dkb won't happen, if he just pulled straight, literally his knees will never ever go under the bar once it's passed his knees by just pulling straight?

lmao
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>>36851014

So you don't have any advice then?
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>>36851545

ask and ye shall receive
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>>36851655

1.What's a good routine and why is it good?

2. Where do I compete in the US and what are competitive lifting numbers?
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>>36851655
don't answer him this dude think he's funny trying to meme me fuck u
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>>36851673

1. depends on your proficiency level, but generally the best routines are really simple as a base (classics, pulls, and squats), with intensity, frequency, and weakness correction determined by the coach. A good routine is more or less tailor made, unlike in PL or BB. The best you can settle for otherwise is the first one I mentioned + bodybuilding

2. Start with local meets, where you can qualify for better ones like the university nats. I qualified for university nationals with just 85/120 which were kind of bad. I don't think I can repeat that again this year, you'd have to check out what the standards are now but the sport's getting more popular and the benchmarks are going way up

Last meet I went to a 94 won it with a 115sn and 140cj to the standard is not huge if you're strong already and willing to get good technique
James Tatum for example is sitting around 140/180 as a 77 (can't remember too well but I think that's where he is) and he's one of the best in the US (keep in mind your average chinaman or ruski smokes him with closer to 160/190 in that weight class)
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>>36851673

1. 'Proper' routines are customized for you by a coach. There is no universal agreement on what 'works', and there are a number of 'training schools' that have hit upon remarkably different practices that have respectively produced phenomenal athletes. Without knowledge of your training history, your level of development, your bodies work capacity, etc. we cannot prescribe to you a routine that would work for you.

2. This depends entirely on where you live. Where do you live?
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>>36851761
>>36851748

I don't have a coach. I'm 25 and I'm too old that I'm not going to make a career out of this but I would like to do my best.

I live in Florida
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>>36851778

yeah m8 I doubt anyone here is going to make a career out of it. Commisar might be the closest but only because he's underage b& and has time

Find a decent coach. I never got one except for a month at one point and it's showed in my shit progress
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>>36851778

Again, with no knowledge of you as an athlete it
is very difficult to offer a routine that is 'good'.

The Florida Weightlifting Federation's website is fucked, so I guess your shit out of luck on info until it's back online. But now you know there's a thing called the Florida Weightlifting Federation, which you would have known anyway if you had spent 2 seconds doing your own research.
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>>36851831

And by career we generally mean 'might get enough of a stipend to survive without a full time job'. Lifting ain't a sport that pays well in the western world.
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>>36851748
>94 won it with a 115sn and 140cj

i thought u couldnt snatch 2 plates, now you automagically snatch 15 more kg than that
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>>36851845
>enough of a stipend to survive

no one even gets a stipend enough for food and rent in usa, the top dudes get payed like 1000 a month lol
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>>36851845

you could probably become a crossfit coach or something and get paid OK. Not purely as a lifter though like the chinese, yeah

>>36851853

it's pretty clear from my post that I'm not the 94 I'm talking about
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>>36851748

For comparison's sake, what is your front, back squat, OHP, DL, and bench?
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>>36851906

current sn/cj is 95/125
lifts are 140, 160, 85, 235, 115 respectively, weigh around 79kg right now. Haven't tested maxes on squat, dl, bench, or OHP in maybe 2 years now that I think about it
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>>36841545
Asics 727 are the best weightlifting shoe.
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>>36851747
He's not a troll, probably just has aspergers.
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>>36852024

Why do you think I have aspergers?
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>>36851937

Pic?
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>>36852076

haven't really got anything recent
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Should be going to my first comp soon.

I'm under no illusions about posting impressive numbers. Just hoping not to bomb.

Have under a month to hopefully get my snatch up from 50 and jerk the 80 I can clean.

Is the Central Region Brit anon knocking about? You going on the 14th May, friend?
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>>36852169
How are you going to qualify for nationals with 80 clean?? Pretty sure you need 100 more?

Fucking knew this thread was full of dyel kids
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>>36852584

This joke was stale before you even brought it to the table, mate. Bin it.
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Possible to go from 65kg Sn to 143 in 6 years?
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>>36850833
You keep saying this yet you won't answer with what your numbers are

I pretty much guarentee at least half the people here are stronger than you

So unless you're gonna give you snatch, c&j, fs and bs numbers you can stfu
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>>36851863
The too mdusa guys got a decent stipend + seminars and coaching but but that's gone there's fuck all money in it

In UK too the funding is trash and if you're a man you get 0, there's no allocation for it. Alot of lifters in Europe have started lifting for bundesliga teams because they will pay for flights+accommodation and then you get paid per kilo of total
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>>36852169
I will prob be at this comp. What catagory are you and where you train? Don't worry about numbers I did very shitty nunbers in first comp after only a couple months lifting and wasn't even doing a proper program
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>>36853293

69kg

I get coached in Chorley, the club is Northern Region but coach brought this comp up and suggested I go, I don't know how strict the region thing is.
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Lads. Can I go from 65kg snatch to 138kg in 6 years? (Started 4 months ago).

Also 79kg->85kg BW?
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>>36853411
yes, indeed you can
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what do you guys think of the chink at 105 snatching 195 yet cnj'ing 210
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8kSzQzGJq0&t=33m30s
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>>36853411
*5 years
>tfw started too late


Also, doing light tech work on 'rest' days is fine right?
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>>36853367
Anyone who's sign up to bwl can enter any comp providing they meet other requirments

>>36853840
I know wl in UK isn't great overall but there's a real real dirth in the heavyweight classes damn
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>>36853924
The 77 and 85 are also very close.
U20 is even worse, the 77 sn is 5kg more than 85kg sn.

Can you get pretty good at WL over 5 years, even if it's not setting records?
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>>36854004
if you get a good coach those records should be reasonably easily breakable
im not sure the uk has any very good coaches though
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>>36854004

Like >>36853924 says the UK isn't really a WL country, therefore the genetic freaks who could do brilliant may never even lift a weight.

So if someone started training young they could do very well, just look at GB men, they're nothing special in the grand scheme of the sport, they just started early.
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>>36854136
Doesn't seem like it. Well I've just turned 19, so I have 4-5 years for U23.

65kg Snatch, 155kg Squat, 79kg BW right now.
A lot of what I need to improve is technical, yeah I don't think there are many.
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>>36854255
whats up with you m9 I squat 130kg and I can power sn 65 and my tech is horrible
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>>36854993
Still developing stability/tech. Haven't been doing it long.
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>>36854255
Yes deffo technical with that squat

I squat 5kg more but snatch 85 which is still shitty

I know I'm good for 90+ soon. 100 if I can unfreeze my hips and not power everything

At your age you have alot of time to git gud. We have had a 16yr old at our gym go from 60sn to 92sn in a year and that's without even proper programming and a few months off from illness
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>>36854136
There's some decent coaches

Just find out who the GB staff coaches are and join one of their gyms

Sure it's not China but you're gonna improve under them
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>>36853249
What is fs and BS?
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>>36855257
Front squat back squat

Still waiting on your nunbers seeing as you claim you're already stronger than everyone here
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>>36853840
tfw when started just right, ill have one of those records soon
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any UK lifters post stats and where you lift at
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>>36855422
>tfw some armenian guy who trained in armenia broke record in 3 weightclasses in my country
i'll never break ours
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>>36855422
Underage b&
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>>36855309

Not stronger than everyone. Stronger than most probably.
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>>36856080
>probably

I see no numbers lad

Just post them

You're weak as fuck otherwise I assume
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Snatched 37.5 for 3x5 tonight lads
I'm coming for you Commisar, one day I'll lift more than you m8
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>>36856420
lotta loyalty for a hired gun!
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>>36856280
What are your numbers then I'll post mine
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>>36856511
115/140
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>>36856736
No labels?
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>>36855422

Age, weight, lifts?
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>>36856511
150/190 @94
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>>36856757

You're that lanky retard with the blue romaleos, aren't you?
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>>36856757
Snatch/c&j

This is normal

You know zero about lifting and won't post your nunbers

You're not strong than anyone here
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>>36850637
that's not a big deal
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>>36856780
You cant CJ 400lbs you're full of shit

>>36856781
No. What's wrong with Romaloes?
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>>36857041
why cant you post how much you lift?
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>>36857089
>>36856867
its a troll how dont u guys get this
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>>36857100

Bored.
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>>36857089
What's wrong with Romaloes??

>>36857100
Why do you think I'm trolling?
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>>36857121
fair senpai
>>
i think split jerks upset my rear knee
why lads
https://www.instagram.com/p/BEElQj7iksO
https://www.instagram.com/p/BD39h0CCkrW
https://www.instagram.com/p/BDg7GmkikiW
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>>36857207

>Cambridge

t. Spoiled brat
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>>36857238
this isnt america, all unis cost the same in uk senpai
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hey fellas what's the difference between the adipowers and powerlifts? im a powerlifter who only needs these shoes for squats. i do squat high bar.
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>>36857355
also i found drehkrafts on amazon for $100. also an option???? dont know how any of these are different. all seem to have 3/4 heels and some sort of instep strap
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>>36857355
>>36857355
>>36857355
go ask plg
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>>36857355
one is cheap n sucks one is expensive and is better
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I rep

235 bench
315 squat
315 diddly
135 ohp

I weigh 168 with some extra around my midsection
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I will yell & slam bars till the day I die. Know one will ever stop me, us, the love for the sport.
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>>36843117
snatch 75kg
cj 110kg (yeah i know there's a big diff , my snatch form is lacking)
184cm/85kg/24
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>>36857355

PL2 has 1.5cm heel height
Adipowers has 1.9cm heel height

PL2 is made of cheaper materials
Adipowers is made of expensive materials

PL2 has been used to win gold medals in weightlifting and break squat world records in powerlifting. So there's that.

>>36857401

Drehkrafts is the PL2 with 1.9cm heel and a meme locking system.
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>>36857648
You're me.

Except I can't get my OHP higher than 100 at the moment
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>>36857655
>this dude has published a book with a thousand grammar mistakes like this

hahah he's lucky he had rich parents, he tries to act like he had a hard time growing up, getting addicted to meth or was it crack having to work part time jobs so he can lift and shit lol
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If my elbows can't straighten fully can I still do this sport?

I went in for my first lesson today was doing front squats. Then we did overhead squats and the coach was kept telling me to extend my arms fully. She said I might have problems because of it. Am I fucked? Im like 6 feet 1
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>>36858058
Yeah you being 6 feet automagically makes your elbow not extend all the way

Or you are retarded

I vote retarded
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>>36858077
Thanks
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>>36857310
But only posh gaylords do well enuff in a levels to get in ;^)
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>>36844653
good detection fatty
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>>36857655
Do you listen to weightlifting talk commie? I don't usually but downloaded it. North is a retard but he put forward a really good defence of the bulg system
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>>36858058
it's not ideal but as long as they're symetrical it's not too much of an issue, if one locks much worse than the other then it becomes a problem.
look at guys like sedov, matam, didzbalis etc for guys that make do with shit elbow locks
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>>36858058
It might be harder but there's quite alot of lifters who don't fully extend elbows

We have a lad who can't do it in the jerk, aslong as there's no re-bend judges will pass it. If in doubt point to elbows before you lift to make them aware of your shit elbows
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>>36858936
I've listened to a few episodes

The thing that the bulgarian system and jun nurt have in common is
strength>technique
weights>all
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>>36859000
He did train with uncle for a bit so he did the actual programming

He basically said everyone goes cray for ruski and chinky programs and how they're the fashion and people want them (I mean shit look at the shilling in this thread alone) yet when people talk about one of the most successful programs of all time, the first thing people say about bulg is 'drugs'
Implying the Chinese and Russian aren't on drugs. His theory is you just can't make money off the classics/squat programs cos people need muh sekrit Chinese shit

Thought he made a good point. Then he went retard mode again.
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>>36859048
does he speak english
>>
>>36859048

If you can't spend significant amounts of time on recovery then the Bulgarian method is going to fry you, meaning it is not ideal for amateur lifters that have other time commitments, i.e. everyone on this board. Both Chinese and Russian styles of training are much more versatile, with volume and intensity modifiable to suit the needs of individuals. They allow for plenty of practice at sub-maximal percentages, so technical development can coincide with strength development without sacrificing either.

If you are training like an international-level athlete without being an international-level athlete you are on a fool's errand and probably deserve everything you get.
>>
>>36860158
No one denied that and that wasn't the point lad

You also just spoke up for Chinese method then said anyone emulating international lifter is moron, which is it?

A natty amatuer lifter would be just as fried doing a 3 sessions a day Russian program or a full time chink one
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>>36859048
didnt abadjiev only train the national team?
the novice lifter never did max out every session

>>36860277
i dont think anybody has ever recommended doing what the elite chinese or russian does

nor did the general ever said to do chinese method instead we posted very simplified program

i think youre making up stuff without even reading the thread
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>>36860277
You realize China/Russia both has systems that work for different qualifications?

Retard
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>>36857856
im >>36857355
thanks for the detailed response. presumably the best option would be to get both and try them out. who knows what website has the best return policy?
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>>36860439
So does bulgaria

>>36860387
I think you're the one who didn't read the thread lad, I never said that, you've missed the point entirely that China and Russia are trendy get Bulgaria isn't.
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>>36860763
>China and Russia are trendy get Bulgaria isn't.
what is squat everyday
who is broz
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>>36860896
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>>36860772
Well done for naming the one guy known for something that isn't even the system being discussed who is constantly criticised

He get/got so much shit here. Just accept that your beloved China shit is popular now. I know you're a weightlifting hipster and want to be a special snowflake but that's the fact mate
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>>36860927
i dont think you really have anything to say but just want to criticize the people in this thread
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>>36860940
Nah, I was talking about what was said on a podcast, that was a valid point, and you jumped all over it being defensive as if it was a slight against people here

Quite being so insecure, world don't revolve around you, the podcast wasn't aimed at you, neither was the post discussing it
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>>36860971
im dsseminating corrective information
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>>36860985
No you're not, youve probably not even listened to the fucking thing because you've missed the point by a mile

Stop inserting yourself into every discussion with this holier than thou attitude, you don't know as much as you think you do and its beggining to get fucking annoying
>>
Dont the chinese simply have a program to weed out all those who cant withstand the program? So theyre left with only freaks
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>>36861007
that wasnt my goal in this discussion
im sorry you have to feel that way
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>>36858594
fug D:
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>>36860763
bulgaria is as much a meme as china and russia
what people think of a bulg training is how their national coach programmed for a bit, no other coaches in bulgaria really programmed like that, and it caused lots of injury and only worked because of the system they had in place
chinese and russian systems focus far more on injury prevention and longevity, and what people think of as chinese and russian programming is more in line with what lifters of their level should be doing. chinese and russian top level lifters do training very slightly more resembling what people think of as bulg training
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>>36861024
no
chinese kids first get recruited to do some weekend stuff whilst going to normal school afaik
those who are good at that may train a bit more
those who do well becom,e full time athletes, where training is fosued on building a solid base, building small muscle groups to prevent injury, perfecting technique, and getting stronger gradually over many years
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>>36843117
173cm, 85kg, 22

115/150kg after two years
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>>36861114
I don't disagree with that, but Jon north still made valid points regarding the attitude toward the systems

>>36861038
>>36861038
You just often come across like you want to shut down any opinion that isn't in line with your China centric view. That doesn't promote discussion, this is Olympic weightlifting general not Chinese weightlifting general. See how pas contributed his opinion in a manner that encourages discussion?
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>>36861219
what did he say? i dont like listening to his podcast
>>
>tfw meet soon
>have to wear singlet
>tfw grower

JUST
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>>36861024
no that's what the bulgarians did
>>
newfag here. i just lift in chucks and the coach told me to buy actual shoes when i could. getting my tax return bux soon

is pic related a good deal? get like 15% discount too with the newsletter when you sign up.
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>>36860763
>he don't know what he talmbout

Back around 2011 till after olympics everyone was about Bulgarian life, with calstrength and abadjievs coaching in Bay Area Bulgaria was the bigger meme
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>>36861326
$200 is normal price for those, but they are top of the line oly shoes

the other ones you could are are the nike romaleos, which are also $200
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>>36843117
170cm 69kg
82/105
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>>36849278
220 squat roughly 200 front squat. Best lifts are 120/150 currently.... I'm hoping to go 120/160 at next comp
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>>36861326
Not sure how much that is converted to in real money. I would personally go with amazon though, they are usually much cheaper.

I would calculate and compare the two offers, then choose the best. Having adipowers isn't mandatory or anything though, chucks are fine. I still use them.
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>>36861582

why not a higher snatch as well if you're aiming for a 10kg jump on cj
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>>36861487
>>36861326

L2 online shop

You can get them at Roguefitness dot com for like 170
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>>36861544
>>36861671
I'm better at clean and jerk...
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>>36861671
And when the stakes are high or I'm pumped on ammonia and decided I'm getting under it no matter what I stand a better chance
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>>36861487
>>36861583
>>36861744
Romaleos or adipower?
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>>36862072

In the time it took you to read, click and reply you could have looked it up yourself you lazy fuck
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from monday, starting to actually have a decent catch position
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>>36862072
they're both really good
romaleos are better suited for you if your feet are wide
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