Eggs > roids

>>36708051

What reputation?

>>36708051
this guy was advising doing 8x8 with 30s rests. Unless you're juicing I don't see how you could grow with mandatory bitch weights.

>>36708143

You can grow off relatively low weights provided you're pushing close enough to failure (which, with 8x8 and fuck all rest, is probably going to happen).

Its just inefficient as fuck for most purposes.

>>36708051
it's so easy to make this bogus claim, because he knows nobody is going to go out and eat four dozen fertile eggs in one fucking day

>>36708051
Unless you live on a farm, four dozen fertile eggs PER DAY, plus all that other stuff, would be WAY more expensive than a modest steroid regimen. And it's debatable that it would be any healthier (eggs are good for you in general but with four dozen a day you may end up getting too much of something).

That probably works well with his steroids

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>>36708051
pretty much obligatory.

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>>36708071
>He doesn't know bodybuilding history

>>36708164
>WAY more expensive than a modest steroid regimen

Yeah, but you don't get any of the side effects of roids

>>36708051
Why fertilized?

>>36708164
The eggs would replace your food costs, though. 48 large eggs = 3,600 calories. And 4 dozen supermarket eggs is only about $6 or $7. Also 100 liver tabs (back of envelope) comes out to about 200g fresh liver, or half a pound. "Amino acid tablets" are probably what, a gram each? So four scoops (!) of powder should match it.

>>36708880
How about the side effect of wanting to kill yourself after day 1?

>>36709055
Easily countered by eating more eggs

>>36708051
>For example, unlike many other physique trainers, he did not prescribe regular back squats (his gym had no squat racks), stating that they caused the over development of the gluteal muscles and hips relative to the thighs.

>The exception would be female trainees who needed more gluteus and hip development.

Interesting. Just read a thing by Arnold talking about his fear squats would overdevelop his glutes.

>>36708156
>>36708164
>>36708880
>>36709045
How has nobody mentioned the side effect of literally having a heart attack and dying?

1 egg contains 186mg of cholesterol, the recommended daily intake is 300.

If you have 48 eggs per day you're having 30x your daily recommended intake, a months worth of eggs per day.

You will be dead by the end of the week on this retarded suicide diet.

>>36709189
https://health.clevelandclinic.org/2015/02/why-you-should-no-longer-worry-about-cholesterol-in-food/

Here's a novel idea, how about you all just.. stop lifting for vanity. Did you know that training to be strong and healthy leads to a beautiful and athletic physique?

Here's the fun part, as long as you're not a fool [if you are, educate yourself] you can reasonably eat anything you want and it's just fine and dandy.

Want to munch on some cake? It's fine! Because you've changed your lifestyle and diet to support moderately flexible eating.

I dunno, I just woke up, and ya'll niggas already being crazy. You have to all stop and think "Do I really want to be a bodybuilder with muscle dysmorphia?" You have to have better values at your core than the vanity or your venture into a physical culture will collapse.

>>36709189

what about that 80 year rold guy who hadd been eating 24 eggs a day for decades and his cholesterol level was no different from an average persons?

>>36709189
Actually, the link between dietary cholesterol and cardiovascular disease is, at best, significantly less strong than we thought. Some argue it doesn't exist at all, though the jury is sort of out. It's been ingrained in us for so long that it seems to me at least there is a slight bias to continue to support what we already believed.

The current recommendation on dietary cholesterol is based upon horrendously outdated studies with poor scientific methods, some not even conducted on humans.

One study of many that you might find interesting:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23676423

I eat 6 a day,
Ive eaten at least 3 eggs a day for 4 years now, my peak bulk i was eating 8 egg wholes +12 egg whites

>>36708051
> I do not subscribe to man’s laws (science). My information comes from a different source.
Gironda was a bro scientist?

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Was he right /fit/?

>>36709189

You realize that research has been discredited right? There actually is no correlation between heart disease and cholesterol intake. >>36709239

>>36708051
More secrets:

>Back in the 1960’s the late, Vince Gironda "The Iron Guru" revealed to the bodybuilding world the Euro-Blast Weight Gaining BIG SECRET that the European muscle monsters were using to gain muscle density. Vince begin using it on his students to increase their body weight by as much as 40 pounds.

>The BIG SECRET is simply drinking 6 ounces of half and half or certified raw cream mixed with 6 ounces of ginger ale.

>>36709590
egg lobby pls go

>>36709189
Cholesterol absorption is saturated at ~300-500mg in humans. You would just shit out the rest, maybe get diarrhea from irritating your intestines ( http://www.nature.com/ncomms/2014/141223/ncomms6864/full/ncomms6864.html)

drink a dozen raw eggs with cream a day here AMA

>>36710358
Height, weight, bf%

>>36710390
5'11. 195, around 10-12%

>>36710404
Pics?

>>36710414
one day i may

>>36710358
consuming raw eggs is dumb.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9772141

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>>36709338
Yes
The secret to natty gains is eggs and a pet manlet

>>36710437

>>36710437

I'll just assume it's the one about the protein digestability. That's not exactly relevant to the benefit of the egg. if i wanted fkin max protonz id smoke protein powder and eat chicken all day.

>>36708051
I love eggs but the whole high sodium and cholesterol shit is not worth it

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Don't get kicked out of vince's gym

>>36711116
See
>>36709239
>>36709300
and
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/its-time-to-end-the-war-on-salt/

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>>36711174
>no. 2

>>36709091
>Not wanting to do one of the most important compound exercises known to man out of fear of imbalances

Do people really not know what support exercises are for?

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Intersting commitment to aesthetics, but the book is full of pictures of and references to juiced up bbers

>2016
>still eating a chickens period

not going to make it lads.

>>36709189
This is bullshit, this lad looks fine with egg-rich diet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdw3OPEk0hQ

>>36709280
Actually his cholesterol was better than the average.. Crazy right?

While I fucking love eggs, eating that many per day is insane. I imagine you'd smell like a rotting egg all fucking day.

I could easily eat a dozen in a day, but even eating that many day after day after day after day......

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>>36712244
Probably just his word for "lots". I read he advocated one hard boiled egg an hour elsewhere.

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Vince's newbie routine

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>>36712455
One set of each the first week, two the second and three the third.

Seems like a good way to go bald since eggs block biotin or whatever

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>>36712471
Exercises get switched up if the trainee gets too bored

>>36712309
>>36711475
Is this broscience: the book?

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>>36712487
>>36712490
It's definitely an "anecdotal" approach

>>36709250
Lifting heavy isn't healthy. Squatting 300kg or benching 150kg isn't healthy, your joints WILL suffer. And those aren't even close to extremes. There's absolutely no way around destroying your joints in a long run if you lift heavy

if you want to actually lift healthy you'll never leave dyel weights

>>36712499
Its total bullshit

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>>36712532

>>36712524
Im pretty sure you can get to advanced str standards before that happens

>>36712309
1 hour per hour for 24 hours, or just while awake?

Do you stop mid workout to eat a fucking egg?

Also, fertile eggs? Where the fuck do you buy fertile eggs? Sounds nasty

>>36712546
>implying?
Just because someone is good at something doesnt mean they are right about everything.
In lifting consistency, progressive overload, genetics, steroids and sufficient dietary protein gets you 99%

>>36712553
Sorry, per wakeful hour. I think the hourly egg / liver pill / amino dose prescription is him taking the small meal idea to the extreme.

Fertile egg does sound gross.

ITT: fucking "muh science" losers talking shit on a natty who YOU WILL NEVER LOOK BETTER THAN, EVEN ON ROIDS.

results speak for themselves

"but omg so many eggs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

LMAO

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>>36712499
Here's the basis of the advanced program

>>36712553
FUCKING EREWHON M8

>>36709300

>One study of many that you might find interesting:
>http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23676423

>up to a single egg a day not associated with CVD, but is associated with CVD in diabetics, who are at an increased risk of CVD due to their diabetes, thus increasing the power to find statistically significant links among that population

Not really convincing, especially when nobody on this board is advocating limiting yourself to just one egg a day. People link studies like this and then say "therefore, you can eat 6+ eggs a day and it's fine."

Another meta-analysis found a link between egg consumption and CVD and diabetes

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23643053

>>36709590
>>36709239

This article sounds less to do with dietary cholesterol and more of a denial that anything in the diet can significantly influence blood cholesterol levels and that it's all down to genetics, which is ridiculous.

>>36710232
veg-cuck pls go

Eggs are one of the worst foods you can eat

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>>36710497
IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW

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>>36713748

>>36709189
did you live under a fucking rock during the last 20 years?

>200 pills
>48 eggs
>every day

>>36713748
Ok that's pretty funny

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>>36712553
Ah. Fertile = cage free