Fitness/Weightloss Trends You HATE

basically all of them

Why would I hate misinformation?

The less normies who look good, the better off we are.

The reddit popularization of good exercise programs in the early 2010's actually damaged /fit/'s brand.

>>36598217
This.

But the juiceplus bs really annoys me. And raspberry ketones, who the fuck believes in that shit? Some teleportion pill for small amounts of matter.

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>>36598226
>/fit/'s brand

lordy lordy

>>36598250
lazy and unintelligent people will believe anything

Anything that doesn't emphasize eat more lose less

>>36598277
*eat less move more lol

>>36598288
It's correct either way.

>>36598210
Low carb...worst meme of all time

>>36599516
>he doesn't believe in keto

>>36599516
It's literally not.

I know a chick who sells all sorts of shit and always posts "results" from other people who probably took pictures months apart pretending to be days/weeks apart

Why doesnt she show her own results if they actually do work?... oh wait


Can't believe people fall for this shit, SHE MAKES FUCKING BANK

>>36598210
http://www.livestrong.com/article/297902-lymphatic-massage-for-weight-loss/

>>36599729
>>36599619
"I don't really feeeel like eating healthy and exercising hard, but by depriving my body a vital macro I can put my body into a statr of controlled starvation."

Also hows the monthy shit going?

>>36598210
>keeps raising her pants up

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>hey anon, I'm going to juice this week

alternatively

>Did you see the new Dr. Oz? Green tea can help you lose weight!

aka

>Wow, that run was hard. Now to reward myself with a little treat

>>36598226
>SS + GOMAD
>Good Program

Pick one and only one.

Semi relevant question I need answered real quick

I want to develop ab aesthetics. Implying I already have a good routine set up, do I need to focus on lowering my body fat percentage if I'm already 10 pounds underweight, or can I just switch my daily calory intake to nutritious shit and be fine?

- Anything involving the word cleanse.
- Any "system" where you eat like 2 or 3 foods.
(Honey and lemon etc)
- It Works-type shit - my cousin peddles this malarkey and i'm fucking ashamed.

- Also idiots doing any diet:
>guy i work with
>6'4" (godheight)
>~250 lbs
>not fat as fatass, some muscle but decent belly and layer of fat
>walks in one day and tells me "fuck the Atkins diet."
>why's that?
>"i been doin it for a couple weeks and i gained weight"
>you sure you been doing it right? counting calories?
>"No anon that's not how it works. You cut out carbs then eat as much protein and fat as you want."
>mfw

>>36602267
being underweight or overweight really doesnt mean much if youre using bmi or something
abs pop out by having low fat percentage and developed muscles in the region
if you are 10 pounds underweight and still dont have abs youre pretty much skinnyfat high high bf%
in my opinion you should eat more and lift more to gain weight and muscle

>>36602474
Thank you.

I'd say this thread has covered all the bullshit already.

However, on the flip side I have a real love for Alli simply because the consequence for not changing your eating habits is as disgusting as it is hilarious.

>>36598226
Don't worry, there are tons of people who are memeing away on SL5x5 or SS. Somehow everyone forgot to tell them that you do these programs for 3 months at max and then switch to a proper program. Oh well!

>>36602267
>good routine
>underweight
>nutritious shit

Lots of vague terms anon. Like the other reply said, abs are muscle + low body fat (15-16 you may *start* to see definition, 12 or below they should pop, assuming you have muscle there).

The solution depends on if you have decent muscle there to begin with. Unless you're an athlete or have been working your abs, the answer is probably no. So you need to work your abs/obliques. Also, body fat %. Flex your abs and pinch the skin there. If what you're pinching is more than half an inch or so (total) you have fat to lose, and should decrease your calorie intake (or increase your average daily burn).

But since you think you're underweight, other anon is probably right, you have little muscle and some fat = skinnyfat, and you have a choice. Either work abs and cut (or start lifting to increase your burn) and MAYBE see your abs in a month or two, or eat more, gain some muscle, then cut and have a better body overall.

>refeed

you fuckin what dude

>>36602497
>Somehow everyone forgot to tell them that you do these programs for 3 months at max and then switch to a proper program.

SS keeps going until you plateau.

>>36598217
Why wouldn't wraps work? They squeeze your body into an thinner shape, like a corset

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>>36602577
>good routine
Right now I'm set to start a refined version of

6x25 oblique crunches (1 set on each side)
3x50 leg pull ins
6x25 oblique jack knife (1 set on each side)
3x20 jack knife
3x25 alternating heel touches
3x20 bottoms up
Or something completely different if a bodybuilder I'm friends with comes through and sends me a routine.
>underweight
I am 5'10 and 120 pounds, about 10 pounds underweight. Pic related.
>nutritious shit
Genuinely don't know what I'm doing with this. Figure I'll use the sticky to work out some diet, cut the amount of fat and starch I eat and load up on protein and complex carbs and fruits and whatnot. I'll workout the diet soon.

I don't believe I have more than half an inch of fat, flexing my abs, but I could be doing it wrong or something.

I think I might just start the routine, but I'll screencap what you've said and refer to it again tomorrow before I start.

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>>36598210
>using fewer than 4 scoops

Juice cleanses

Oh my God, if I have to hear another coworker go on about how she's doing a juice cleanse, I'm gonna lose it.

>anon, I'm doing a cleanse!
>it's to flush all those bad chemicals out of your body that you get from eating modern food!

And they literally never see any improvements

>>36602497
>3 months at max
no wonder you made no gains
you do them for as long as you get to moderate strength levels and can keep up linear progression. So at least a year.

>>36602718
I always get mad at my family when they won't listen to me about this shit.

>anon, they're doing a program about a juice diet!
>I think they know a little more than you

Like, I know I'm not a beacon of health, I'm still losing weight, but fucking come on! This isn't only unhealthy, it's a fucking scam. JUST STOP LISTENING TO DR. OZ HE'S NOT EVEN A REAL PROFESSIONAL

>>36602605

これは好餌ですか?

>>36602743
>>36602718

Juice cleanses are bunk. Real cleanses are intense. I went on a Master Cleanse for 7 days - felt great afterwards.

The real point of a cleanse is to decimate your gut bacteria and clean off the microbial plaque that builds up in the intestine. Afterward you've got a blank-slate to add good cultures and build up a solid garden of gut flora. Better nutrient absorption all around, more energy.

>>36602718
Juice cleanses really work, you can't see the results though. It's all inside.

For example I didn't have diabetes before my cleanse, but after 1 month of nothing but juice concentrate I can gladly say I have diabetes.
Tell your coworkers to keep it up, they'll make excellent progress.

>>36598217
>2016
>not taking DNP

Fucking pleb.

>>36602657
L O N D O N

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>>36602791
I too decided to juice cleanse so I could get diabetes. Both my feet had to be amputated but I lost 5kg in 1 day!

>>36602958
Christ, is that thing shooped on? They really don't have to try hard to sell this hsit.

>water fasting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5D0sKuFw0os

My favourite thing about when people ask me about my weight loss is watching a part of them die inside when I say it was all down to eating at a sensible deficit and moving more

Lately however I've also taken to saving my calories to eat in front of people with a view to becoming that anecdotal skinny grill who "eats so much but can't gain weight :(". I'm turning into that horrible sociopath chick who sometimes gets posted in fat hate threads.

>>36599780
A friend of mine went on cambridge weight plan, lost about 56lbs and immediately became a consultant herself, claiming to have "kept the weight off" for a year
An actual year later she's gained half of it back and is no longer a consultant

>>36602767
So like
antibiotics?

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>>36603056
>I have not lost weight doing this yet maybe like a pound which just shows you how resilient my body is

>>36602766
I dont speak moon

>>36602657
S T I C K Y
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FFS spoopy yeah you're underweight. If all you care about is abs keep eating what you're eating and just work your abs. But unless you're going for twink mode you should really be lifting and eating more. Sticky gives recent programs, but you'll need access to weights.

>>36600391
Hahaha this so much

Low carb
Dumbest meme shit out there

>>36602718
Juice cleanses help me of I want to mentally reset myself, so I just have vegetable juices for a week and then I rebuild my diet.

My dad is into trends though. Britbong here so he sits and reads the Daily Mail app on his phone. He's fat too, and eats too much, but he's with my mum and she's heavy too so he's sorted. When I implied to him that I lift for chicks he looked surprised, like it never occurred to him before.

He always emails me Daily Mail articles saying shit like "New study says you should never do press ups" - "Look at our new diet fad plan e.g. bliss bowls". I mean, it's good he's interested and I encourage him but he buys Men's Health magazine and he just gets caught up in fads.

I'm going to try lifting with him when I get time off work. I love him and I want to help him get healthy, he's too fat for 50+ now.

>>36602767
This is such bull. Cancer patients on chemo lose their gut flora and need a stool transplant (it's a real thing, look it up) to get it back. You're just starving yourself and rationalizing it with voodoo bullshit.

>>36602657
thats way too much ab work anon.

>>36602657
Do what this guy says. Don't just "work your abs" without doing anything else.

>>36599516
Yeah worst meme

All of the pro bodybuilders do low carb and all professional coaches make their clients do low carb

I actually participated in one of these weight loss studies for some extra cash in college.

You have to meet with the company rep for 1 hour, 4 days a week. They put you on a nutrition plan (and to their credit it does include whatever supp their selling), and then whenever you meet up, they lead you through group cardio sessions.

Best thing that came out of it was we got a guest code to get into some really nice hotel's swimming pool area for one of our cardio sessions. The hotel never seemed to change the code, so I would go swim there all the time from then on.

I really hate this whole exercise trend with cross fit and other "exercising for the sake of exercising" shit.
Marketers have created a whole fucking market out of brand products ,clothing and "supplements" for the fitness crowd. As a boxer I thought that it was awful but hot damn if it isn't tame compared to what's currently on.
Sure I could see the benefits of having a healthier population but the people doing that regularly are people that are already healthy.
What bothers me most is the lack of goal in the overall philosophy of fitness. No competition or shit like that.Fitness is to weightlifting what jogging is to marathons. Which is no problem if not for the billion dollar industry behind it and the absolute arrogance of its practitioners

>>36600391
Low carb =/= no carb
But thank you for your participation

>>36602165
green tea can help
drinking tea cut my recovery time by 75% back when i was doing retarded long workouts

>>36600391
You realize that every cutting method is essentially controlled starvation, right?

>>36604188
LOL
O
L

>>36604329
Keto = low carb.

If you went fully no carb you would die

>>36604552
There is a difference in eating so that your body needs to burn fat to make up caloric deficit, and making your body burn fat before it goes brain dead.

>>36604557
>If you went fully no carb you would die
No.

>>36603071

Piss off roastie

Fgasd

>>36603974

> juices cleanses
> lift for girls
> men's health

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>>36604557
>you would die

>>36604570
Unfortunately for you it seems you've already gone brain dead, you're spewing horse shit and you know it senpai

>>36604557
I'm literally in a zero carb group on normiebook, but I guess all those ppl are undead, right?

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>>36604587
(You)

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>>36598226

>/fit/s brand

kill yourself marketer scum.

>>36602235
I pick both

Is intermittent fasting a Meme?

>>36605025
Yes.

>>36598210

that tribal drum shit I've seen posted here and on goybook

>>36604672
I'm doing keto, but how the hell do you do zero carb? Honestly curious, any links on diet and motivation for it?

For low carb haters, I eat around 50 carbs a day, almost entirely vegetables. Like most keto people I'm familiar with, I eat more vegetables than most high carb people.

>>36605042
Why?

>>36605042
>lyin Oliver
>>36605062
I did keto once but I never ate more than 25g a day, usually around 15 g or so. Lowest I ever did was around 5g of carbs for a few days and that was so I could enter ketosis quicker or some shit. Simply never ate vegetables, only eggs, chicken, and pickles among other things

>>36604516
How much where you fucking drinking what the fuck

Is the 5:2 meme still going strong? You know the one where people eat normally for 5 days and then deliberately starve themselves for 2 days.

>>36605327
nope
all of them eventually confused their shit up, did 5 days of starving instead and died

>>36605062
You eat only fatty meat and offal. Some eat dairy too, but it can be problematic. I'm pretty skeptic about it, but many ppl seem to thrive on it.
http://zerocarbzen.com/

>>36598267
Just had an friend's ex try using supplements to fix the issues that he gave himself through overeating, overdrinking, and cocaine use. Top kek.

>>36600391
Believing carbs are essential, this is why you will never have that 6 pack.

There's a huge difference in nutritional ketosis and starvation.

retard confirmed

>>36605824
carbs aren't essential for staying alive but are essential if you want more than that
you think I'm implying shit but just by your post I can tell 100% you're fucking DYEL. protip, eat your carbs even when cutting if you want to look like anything.

>>36606059
This
>>36605824
>carbs are bad
sure thing, keep buying protein powder to get enough calories

>>36606325
When restricting carbs one must get calories from fat, not protein. You just have to buy butter.

STARVATION MODE

I lost 12lbs in a couple of months counting calories, and my cousin who's a (trade school) medical student told me that you can't just do that because starvation mode lasts a month or two.

Idiot.

>>36606404
Doesn't sound healthy at all

>>36606552
>burning fat instead of sugar is bad
You're legit retarded.

>>36606059
Every pro bodybuilder does low carb and they all look better than you, have 100 pounds more muscle than u and also are way less bf than u.

Oh they also win shows all the time unlike u.

So tell me how is low carb a meme when every winner and professional does it

>>36606552
>2016
>not knowing that the connection between saturated fat and heart disease is weak at best

>>36606630
he never said burning fat instead of sugar is bad
he said it sounds unhealthy
and let me tell you, if you think your body - most importantly brain - runs the same on ketones compared to glucose you're beyond saving
your incorrent interpretation of his post is probably a sing of your brain not working properly from the lack of glucose btw

>>36606696
If you had done your reasearch you'd know that blood glucose stays at a constant healthy level on ketosis, otherwise ppl would die. But they don't.

>>36606677
if you believe that you might as well believe them that they're natural
the only time they actually limit carbs as much as possible is the week prior to the contest so they can efficiently carb up during the last 48-24h before the contest. they never do it to lose more fat.
naive kids like you are everything wrong with bodybuilding. plus you try to sound like you know anything. I'm just sad this is true

>>36606692
>weak at best
kek

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>>36600391

>>36606742
yeah at a healthy fkin 0 so the brain can work efficiently

>>36606746
U are the type of guy that thinks that diet doesn't matter on roids
Every professional does low carbs when dieting.

>>36606783
You are one dumb motherfucker, aren't you.

>>36606788
You can't get that big without carby bulks friend

>>36606790
nope but you are if you don't get the difference between having stable blood glucose levels and having enough glucose in blood for the brain to work at highest efficiency

>>36606813
And you just don't get is that the guys who have the LEAST stable blood glucose levels are people with carbs in their diet because their glucose levels are spiking and crashing after each meal. If anything, ketogenic diets yield the most stable blood glucose levels.

Go have a cookie. I have a feeling your brain is not working at its highest efficiency, you sugar-addicted faggot.

>>36606768
>not reading the latest systematic reviews
I should have said non existant.

I hate when people go on "cleanses". There's no such thing, but people claim to be getting all the results. It's all placebo.

>>36606847
literally read my previous post again, it's like you didn't understand any of it
glucose is the brain's preferred source of energy. just realize it you bacon eating idiot

>>36606869
link a meta study that is accepted with a consensus by the medical community as definitive proof of what you said

>>36602718
I used to work at a juice/smoothie shop, hated selling "cleanses"they don't so Jack whit and people never change. It's the epitome of the "I'm lazy and don't want to really take care of myself".
>>36602767
>my master cleanse is different, I swear!
Yeah no, I used to sell those 7 day master cleanses, you're a moron for falling for it, and then trying to justify it as if you know anything about actual nutrition. Cleanses don't do shit, if you want to be healthy eat a healthy diet. If you have a shit diet the cleanse is just giving you a temporary placebo, and your shit diet will not magically nullified in the "cleanse". If your diet is good you don't need to worry about shitty placebo cleanses anyways. Basically its a placebo and you fell for a bad meme. If you want a real cleanse, stick to fruit veggies whole grains, light meat, and away from over processesed ccrap and unnecessary addatives.

>>36607019
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4532752/

>>36603974
You're falling for an overpriced placebo. Wtf is hard about eating an entire actual fruit or vegetable? If you really want to drink them, put them in a blender! The juice machines trash all of the healthy pulp from the vegetable and you miss put on a majority of its nutritional value, being left with just juice, a very small portion of the nutrients that were there. Throw it in a blender and you keep all the pulp and nutrients.

>>36607139
those are observational and you still didnt answer this
>are they accepted with a consensus by the medical community?

>>36606448
You have no idea what you're talking about. Starvation mode is your body starts to eat itself to get nutrition because you're not eating enough.
P.s. you likely lost a majority of weight that wasn't even actual body fat. Stop talking about shit you obviously know nothing about

>>36605824
Holy shit you're a fat retard

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>>36602791
10/10 made me lol

>>36607139
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4532752/
>didn't include 7 nations study because of incompatible data source.
>not because 7 nations study is a piece of shit paper that should never be referenced by anything except a guide for how not to do science.

I really trust this meta study guys, they seem to be on the ball. Also I love how they deemed it unnecessary to include a dietetics specialist. It isn't like having an expert in the field would be useful.

>>36602966
I saw it on tv once

I cannot stand people who brag about every fucking meal and workout on facebook. The dumb hash tags eventually drove me off social media. #bestversionofme #whosaysgirlscantbestrong #workhardlookgood

>>36598217
Fpbp

I dont know guys, it seems like the jury is still out on this one

>>36599619
>Thinking keto is low carb
Low means low, not close to nothing. Dumb fucks everywhere.

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>>36607962
forgot pic

>>36606902
Doesn't celery actually have a negative caloric value since it's basically just water and fiber?

The rest of that list is obviously bullshit.

>>36608157
>Doesn't celery actually have a negative caloric value since it's basically just water and fiber?
No. Nothing is negatively caloric.

>>36606902
>eat yourself thin
This hamplanet logic always cracks me up.

>>36602165
Green tea is awesome for a lot of reasons. Oz be damned.

If you aren't drinking water, drinking plain tea is the next best thing. Deal with it.

>>36605702
>dairy
>0 carb
oke

>>36603056
>I haven't lost a lot of weight but that's because my body is strong because I've been eating vegan
>I'm healing my body and mind by starving myself

How the fuck can someone be this stupid.

Itgh

>>36608356
Some people eat cheese and heavy cream, but not usually milk. I don't think literal zero carb is possible, as even meat has small amounts of carbs.

>>36602657
Don't listen to anybody telling you abs is just low body fat

It's low body fat and abs muscles, if you don't train abs, they will never be visible, no matter your body fat

>>36604188
Pro bodybuilders do not use low carb diets during their usual training. They might do it temporarily to cut water weight for a show.

>>36602235
>you
>not lifting

Pick two jizz monkey lelelelelelelel

>>36606847
Why do you assume fluctuations in blood glucose are bad?