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>>36568760
Kill yourself

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>>36568888
hey nice quads

>>36568760
Nice guys finish last Klokov. That's why you're Russian.

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>>36568760

can we talk about liao hui for a moment? I feel like he never gets discussed even though hes the best lifter out there

>>36569019
Fuck off faggot

>>36569467
liao was my favourite lifter until he got outed as a drug cheater

now ilya is my favourite natural lifter

Russian system is best system.

Prove me wrong.

I feel like Juan won't go 140/170 next year

He's good but is he that good?

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>>36569019

>>36570071
125/150 last december as 77 on meme programming
He's moving up to 85, aiming for 130/155 openers (maybe more!) by uni nats
What he'll actually hit I'd expect to be around 135/165, who knos
140/170 is pretty doable sometime next year

>>36570143
I didn't know he did that much desu

He just shows snatches at 100kg

>>36570026
liao is natural now though

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>>36570135

>>36570026
>that fat slob is your favourite

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>>36570236

>>36570236
>>36570263
post some other lifters too these are getting old

liao hui
chen lijun
apti
ehab
etc.

>>36570263
Ok OK enough webms for now

Can't we just talk about wl

Predictions for euros?

>>36570280
is there a start list?
I predict mediocre performances all round

Is Ilya natty?

He doesn't look like he's on dat dere celltech like based Klokov

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>>36570263

>>36570404
virtually no A group lifter is natural, the fact he holds several world records also points to no, as does the fact that several lifters on his team have been caught

>>36570434
>>36570263
>>36570236
>>36570135
Fuck off faggot

>>36570459

hater

https://www.instagram.com/p/BDjMtILCkis
i did squats and bench today

>>36570278
chen lijun is in his early twenty's bro

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>>36570434

>>36570404

there's a difference between being able to do all the drugs you want (because klok is retired) and having to skirt drug tests like ilya.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BDjDvVljZ70
jon north shud train in this gym
sick atmosphere PR slam attitude bars usa usa usa

>>36570858

funny thing is that jon did train at mash elite, for like 6 months. he told everybody he was going to rio and travis mash planned out all his training to that point...then jon decided to leave.

http://www.mashelite.com/coaching-jon-north/

>>36570608
wats ur point

why is californiastrength so shit at lifting

I just watched their most recent vid and it hurt my tekkers so bad it removed 6months of exp instantly

>>36570209
Ye he hasn't gone past 80% in a while

>>36571139
why are amateurs bad at lifting gee idk man

>>36566970
If all you're doing is static stretching then you're not going to have much luck, I certainly didn't, try related vids

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLE60F0D16C69CE165

>>36570565
Well, at that level of sports it's pretty much genetic freaks everywhere.

>>36570911
Well Jon is now claiming he and shankle are going to 2020 with pendlay

>>36571773
sure and im going to loose my virginity in 2020

>>36571895
>loose

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>>36571924
i cant even do my memes right FUCK

>>36571773
danny shonkle still holds the 105 cj record for usa

lol

probably gonna be broken by dangleo soon, wes kitts gonna do the snatch record

>>36571954

Source?

>>36571895
That's what he said on wl talk

Maybe he back on the drugs

>>36571954
some social experiment youtube channel forgot the name

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Form check

>>36572551

Stop posting.

>>36572551
Pretty good.

Tiny bit of early arm bend, hesitancy going into the hole on the catch (mobility issue?) on the clean. Your elbows go way down as you dip for the jerk - keep them up. Bar also goes forwards, which is why your catch is off balance. Feet might be too narrow in the split but a bit hard to tell from the angle.

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>>36572788
>pretty good

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>>36572736
fuck off
>>36572551
your front foot needs to come forward a bit more such that your calf is perpendicular to the ground

also right before you started the jerk you dropped your elbows and kind of rolled the bar off your delts... don't do this

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>>36572788
>>36572825
guys I was just meming with that vid, hsving some fun. it was from a bad day. idk if ur meming 94kg

Here's a better vid

I still do the elbows down thing. I think its because I believe(d) it should be like a press with elbows below the bar.

>>36572822

You judge a beginner as a beginner.

Does it make you feel elite to compare everyone who posts a form check to Liao Hui?

>>36572876

You're awful and your videos make me wanna vomit.

Stop posting.

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>>36572910
i just do it to annoy you :)

ur lucky i didnt find the squat vid

>>36572910
this

I I I I I I AM GOINV TO KILL MSELF NOW :((:((:(:(:(:(:

how do i program gpp?

coming off a layoff, and im seriously unfit. sets of 5 on the squat are enough to get me winded...

i want to increase my work capacity so i can start training 5-6 days/week again

stats are 5'10 170 lbs, fat

i barely clean bodyweight for triples atm :(

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3rd set of 405lbs x5

today i did

365lbs x5
385lbs x5
405lbs x5 4 sets
405lbs x4 2 sets

was supposed to make 405lbs 5x5 but foolishly took a long rest between 4th and 5th sets. i had to bail the last rep on the fifth ;____;

>>36572964
I just got fired asshole

>>36574366
kek youre tiny
those plates look like ur squatting fucking tires on an axle little man

>>36574414
ye i'm like 5'3 and fat af

>>36570858
>>36570911
I was also thinking Jon should train with Mash, it's actually pretty crazy how good Mash's young lifters are for American standards, definitely gonna see some 200kg CNJs soon
I want Jon to succeed and he said he would stop just doing "party lifts" i.e max out everyday, but now instead of doing max snatch he just does max snatch "panda pull" + snatch
Gonna get nowhere if he doesn't stretch his shoulders.

>>36571139
that girl nicole like hasn't improved more than 2kgs on her total in something like 5 years

>>36574366
Mirin
What's up with they kip thing you do with your knees to get that final thrust? Seems dangerous.

Any sources on child gymnast being recruited for weightlifting?

>>36574562
lol

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"cutting weight". I'm heavier now than I've ever been in my entire life. Kinda fat too. weighed 94 even this morning About time to start putting on the brakes on the weight gain train.

>>36574944
also got on the same program I've been putting my team though today. Did 5 sets of 4 between 60 and 70%. It was more tiring than I realized, to be honest. Actually going through this program with them will be a good experience

Today:

Snatch, 66x4x2, 71x4x2, 77x4x1, 70x4x1
Squat 130x3x6
RDLs 60/80/102.5/125/147.5 sets of like 10 or so
Hamstring curls/Abs with furniture sliders

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cutting from 84kg to 77kg. is it okay if i'm under the amount of calories the program is telling me to eat for the day, even if i'm satiated and capable of stopping short?

>>36575385
Hey i'm considering doing the same after i focus squat

>>36575426
i'm weak as ball, my man.

122kg bsq
91kg snatch
104kg cnj

i'm doing it for aesthetics, mostly. i'm not competing and i'm not competitive, so i figure i may as well just cut and clean bulk for strength.

>>36575445
>94/104 W/ a 122 Backsquat
what the shit man

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>>36575445
140 bsq
70 snatch
80 c&j

REEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>36573308

tk me wit u

>>36573636

Go for a run in the mornings.

Jump drills.

Sprints.

Play some basketball at the Y.

Go swimming.

Ayyyy

>>36574366

How I get stronk beck skwet liek u hwan?

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>>36570026

>Any men's Olympic weightlifter
>Natural

Get out.

>>36576275
First you gotta learn to hate yourself

>>36575720
ahaha idk man i'm just incredibly naturally flexible (and ive done a few yrs of yoga) and weak. i have never even fsq 104kg...

i took a week off for spring break for a zion trip, just hiking, so i had not touched a barbell in a week. i snatched 88kg but couldnt stand up from a 92kg clean...

to be honest, i think i need a general strength/powerlifting thing

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>>36575385
so uhh, anyone have thoughts on this?

>>36576661
i have for the last 23 years m8

>>36576461
>taking the b8

What is a good progression in OLY?
I have been doing it for about 1.5 months and my stats is (not maxed):
S 60
CJ 80

>>36577586
https://www.instagram.com/p/BCqmNBfgNND/?taken-by=choij1995

the image on here was for a 105kg lifter. if you wanna know your progression rate, minus 10 kg per weight category

>>36577729
https://instagram.com/p/5TlkpcgNG_
older version by vorobyev

this one includes press

http://ditillo2.blogspot.kr/2014/02/the-planning-of-training-arkady.html

>>36577729
>>36577733
Much obliged!

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>>36577729
>>36577770

so typically its normal for first years to have around:

105kg --> 120/155
94 --> 110/145
85 --> 100/135
77 --> 90/125
69 --> 80/115

this is the easy part and most people who train thoroughly reach this level

2nd year adds 20kg to snatch and 17.5 to CJ
3rd year adds both by 15kg
4th year adds 10kg to snatch and 12.5 kg to CJ

you should aim to add 2kg every 2 months

some people have faster progress than this

most people have a lot slower progress because lack of coaching, technical training, bad programming, injuries, and etc

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any geologist or geomechanics eng on owg

>>36572051
lahwf I think, haven't seen his shit in years though

>>36575445
You'd actually be quote competitive locally with those numbers

Just get stronger ffs. Yur ratios are mad. You could be real good. I only recently snatched 85 with a 160bs

So im supposed to squat to a heavy single on front squats 6 times a week

Today is my 4th day of the week and i am so fucked up. I don't think that i can put up a good numbers anymore.

What do

>>36578371
get on the gas

>>36577776
>>36577776

I feel this is only really applicable to a person with ideal circumstances like top coaching, good gym, and not having to work a job that is demanding.

Also alot of us here start late. I guess it's useful as a guide for rate of progression if not the same numbers?

I'm happy to read I power snatch what's expected, but that is also my max full cos I power anything heavy, gotta fix that. C&j feels well out of reach. Squat needs to be a bit higher too.

Pent, how would you adjust these for someone in their late 20s?

I once read something about the Chinese not bracing their abs or tightening their upper back when squatting in order to "feel" their legs better and stop the back from hyperextending.

Well I always thought it was bullshit because I had always squatted with a full belly of air, chest up, and just over all staying tight during the entire movement. However I had recently started to get pretty noticeable back pain, so I just said fuck it and went against all "western" logic about squatting.

No big breath, just a normal breath, no tensing upper back, no tensing lower back, I just went down and didn't think at all about using any muscles to stay upright or anything... and would you have it : felt perfect. I've probably never felt so balanced and in control of my quads, and most importantly as I started to "fold over" instead of starting a good morning, my abs and lower back contracted naturally to stop the folding over. My quads, lower back, glutes, and abs all were burning by the end of my 8th set of 3 reps, as opposed to the normal slight ache in my back, and a slight burn in my quads.

Fucking Chinese magic.

>>36579094
when i trained in china i was told to brace my abs and open my chest up when squatting

>>36579094
Once you can lift heavy then you will need to brace

>>36579128
If someone tells you to not brace abs and don't keep chest up/open then something is wrong with them I think. It's fundamental and intuitive.

I hear the Chinese don't cue knees out though and just let the knees do their thing, they say it tightens up the hips too much, which I can see. What do u say?

>>36579318
mostly their knees didnt collapse in
i imagine they dont care as long as ur not crap
i have no issues with knees so they didnt care

>>36579351
I just watched this vid of some Chinaman saying don't push knees iut it tightenz hips too mch, which I think could especially help on smthing like snatch.

The video was titled "knees up not out" but he never elaborated on the knees up cue??? But I tried it and it's neat

>>36579404
probably poor translation of knees forward

>>36570135
kill yourself

Pros and cons with using a belt?
Do you guys use it?

>>36579351
>mostly their knees didnt collapse in

ya think comemesar is gonna get rekt soon?

>>36579128

I think I found the video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVFeMgyx8zo

It was that and then some philosophy about "relaxed" or "calm" strength, as in use as much as is needed but no more.

I am so confused. Am I going to snap my shit up?

>>36580301
Not bracing your core sounds like a fucking terrible idea IMO

You can brace your trunk and still focus on moving the weight with your quads

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who /mediocre genetics for wl/ here?

>tfw no ACTN3

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>>36577800
geophysics memer here

>>36579094
>>36579128
>>36579318
>>36580301
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guMgUEil5F8
taiwanese national coach says in this vid to stay 'relaxed' and not pushing chest forward or anything

>>36572551
That looks laboured. How are you so weak?

>>36580896
forgot to note; its around the 1:40 mark

>>36580903
he has klinefelters bro dont go hard on him

>>36580896
Yeah this was the video I had in mind, I'm pretty sure I've also seen this talked about in some Ma Strength videos but I can't find them anymore.

>>36580896
then the guy in the first clip is obviously doing the opposite

look at him push out against the belt and push his chest up before even descending

>>36580824
What is this

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>>36580915
u misunderstand

he's saying don't overextend, idk why these china men translator has a hard on for the word relax but that's not the direct translation

he also says to keep the core tight at 3:14

you never relax when squatting, you just don't try to overextend, you're holding neutral but not relaxed

>>36581437
athletigen

buy testing kit from 23andme, upload data

>>36581461
But you see this is exactly the opposite of the "chest up" or "open chest" like Pas said. Keeping a neutral posture to me seems to imply not purposefully trying to hold your chest up, just not letting your chest collapse.

>>36581461
Relax might be mistranslation

Pas blog said china lifters like to do a shitton of chin ups to 'relax the back'

>>36577080

Terrible musician, worse philosopher.

Read Heidegger instead. If you have your caloric intake programed for you it's probably best to follow that guideline. Thermodynamics and all that.

>>36580981
Says who?

looking at the 2nd pull position, it seems pretty close to an rdl - which uses hams more than a conventional deadlift

doesnt this mean that the first and second pulls work the posterior chain adequately? why are low bar squats and deadlifts even recommended as assistance to the snatch and clean & jerk when more specific movements accomplish the same thing (snatch, clean pulls)?

if you want to take posterior chain development a step further, why not just add in ghrs, rdls, or good mornings? seems to work for athletes... and powerlifters who barely deadlift outside of competition

i used to think rippetoe had a point, but now i feel as if hes retarded

>>36581995
>i used to think rippetoe had a point, but now i feel as if hes retarded
He is

>>36581800
pullups relax the lower back cos ur hanging

>>36581995
Ur right to think that.

Also, I think it's silly to say most PLers dont deadlift outside comp. Although usually they dont do it as much as they squat...

A classic kind of 3x a week fullbody PL program is
Day 1: Squat + Bench + Accesories (Squat focus)
Day 2: Deadlift + Accesories (DL focus)
Day 3: Bench + Squat + Accesories (Bench focus)

Some deadlift and squat 50/50 though. But I've also found my deadlifting strength to have gone up just doing cleans/snatches while squatting.

But yes, most WLers just do lots of squats (even front squats work the hamstrings/glutes/low back well, more than you'd think at least.) And then they do RDLs and GMs as accesories (they moreso use it for low back than hams and w/e tho Id say desu).

Heavy pulls also keep the posterior and anterior balanced, probably the most depending on how much pulling you do.

>>36581794
why do only absolutes exist in your head

he said this it must mean only this is the exact correct way of doing this, if i dont i die

ok my man

>>36581794
if ur chest collapses in squats a good coach will tell you to lift your chest up
if it doesnt the coach won't stress it
everyone agrees the chest shouldnt collapse in a squat, and noone thinks you should hyperextend either

>>36578766
its true people usually never reach third or fourth year level progression.

people who are older can still gain strength as they get older but has better chance of getting injured since our body becomes stiffer as we age.
i think you can adjust the progression by few kilos or follow the progression of one below you weight category

>>36579128
>>36580511
>>36580301
>>36580896
i was told to brace core and dont exaggerate keeping the chest up as well
you can notice weird bar path for people who put too much pressure on chest

>>36582454
the first year is actual first year of weightlifting you're supposed to hit those numbers? or were they doing some sport before they train full time for wl

>>36582475
this is actually what i thought about since there are people who train as child
i asked prof yeom about this and he said both
there are 13 year olds who hit those numbers and there are people who get into strength training later on.

but you are fully capable of getting those numbers in your first year if you dont have major flaw in your training

>>36582516
having a coach might help a bit too desu senpai
but i guess having flawless training without a good coach is impossible anyway

>>36582525
if you do bulg you can hit those numba with no coach
:^)

Rate my tech gains please friends

Before coach
https://youtu.be/JYO568Abthc

2 weeks of coaching
https://youtu.be/kBLORQGDe8w

https://youtu.be/7NqsNf7j-cM

Ignore the crap press out jerk, I have weak shoulders and need to strengthen them, just added one to today's to keep it as close to the other vid as well. The fact I'm wearing the same clothes is a coincidence though

>>36582577
i hit 80/100 in 6 months, then 95/120 in another few i guess at 69
nearly 3 years later im now at 100/120
lol

should i buy a nexus 5x guys

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This morning i slept through my alarm and missed the morning session. Morning sessions are pretty crucial for me.

I feel like i've wasted this spring break

Also i'm going to slowly cut to 77 after nats

>>36582646
no get an iphone like a true chink

>>36582646
get an iphone and be a fucking normal normie

>>36582681
>>36582675
but im special and unique

>>36582586
>2 weeks
fire your coach

>>36582704
but CHINESE

bro

CHINA

C H I N A
H
I
N
A

>>36582707
how do i get u 2 b my coach bb?

>>36582742
i was thinkin about wunplus x but its camera apparently isnt as good, and all i rly want is a good camera desu senpai

>>36582749
eye sacks now charges for pro coaching, endorsed by lukycharms, hwan and other looser cuck fagts

>>36582761
not charging just getting paid :^)

>>36582749
idk join our sekrit klub group or something

>>36582707

Why?

>>36582761
He doesnt charge me B^)

>>36582781
thats cos u nebr lern anyway

>>36582778
You need to meet the criteria to get into the sekrit group though

>>36582778
nobody likes u cuz ur have teh autisms son

ok ???

>>36582779
i teach for free and i've done better in 3 days that that 2 week prog vid
and i'm just some chink on the internet with no coaching qualifications

>>36582805

what ur IG phaggo

>>36582829
idk i forget

>>36582843
REPOND TO ME P;LS

XDX

Any recommendations on which Catalyst program to follow? There's a shitload of them and they all seem pretty similar. Would like to increase my squat and overhead, and improve consistency in my lifts.

currently c&j 235; snatch 185

>>36582863
here u go

>>36582876
ilya what happened to ur snatch, m8y?

>>36582586
for real why bother doing c&j with that horrible kyphosis and that horrible non-wl gym

>>36582893
Switched to imperial system and everything went down :'(

>>36582805

Well I do 2 sessions a week, so it's only really 4 lessons.

>>36582923

I go to a proper WL gym for coaching and in looking for one to go to when my contract runs out at my current gym.

Also you're gonna make me sad with this hurtful comments

>>36583214
>kyphosis

not hit but you might want to work on your upper back mobility

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Utk6WMcrQP0


try this on your knees it's better

>>36583289

Yeah, I've known my upper back is terrible for a while, it was even worse before I started lifting.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BDlwvGTikvB
today was snatch day
share with friends and family thx

>>36583822
your oh pos looks so awkward. a lil forward or something

>>36583917
ye its weird idgi, when the weight feels over my midfoot it looks like its on my toes

>>36583947
Pas i get doing pulls with weight on ball of foot but doing jerks and squats sorta doesnt click with me

so tell me about that plox

>>36584019
pulls and squats (and the jerk dip) weight should be more around the midfoot
jerks obv rear foot weight is on toes, just experiment to see how to get weight of front foot more towards ball of foot, it feels better desu senpai

The 80kg 6 foot 2 autist here.

Today was C+J maxout day.
Got 48kg (or smthin like that) C + J ez, good tekkers. Went to 50 and failed (just pressout, coach said my split was decent though, pressout was only failiure) :(

Maxing Snatches Saturday. Hoping for 45 ;)

>>36581995
If lowbar + deads was so good, the chinks and Russians would be doing it and have a wealth of studies about it too.

Appeal to authority is what rips dick suckers will say, but in this case it's true.

>>36582632
I hit 85/100 the other day after about 7months (maybe 4-5 proper oly training) at 80kg lol

I'm nearly 30 so I'm counting it as a success that I'm snatching bw close to 6months training :^)

Want 200 total this year

Lads do I keep my shoulder blades squeezed together when I OHP or should I keep them relaxed and just do the internal rotation and shrug at the top.

>>36584062
just swung in for a sec and saw your name. hope you're doing good pal haven't talked to ya in yrs

>>36584256

thoughts on doing mid bar?

>>36584481
Idk what the fuck that is sounds dumb m8

Just do high bar

>>36584320
Most teach to jerk with retracted scapulae (at least overhead, its not ez to do in front rack)

So I would say to at least retract them at the top, and on the way up, based on that logic.

Even if youre not Oly liftin', I would say keep them depressed + retracted.

I have an issue with my right ankle brehs, and its my dorsiflexion. I dont feel the stretch up my calf but rather pressure in the front of my ankle.

Anyone dealt with anything like this? I suspect its a result from an old injury twisting my foot or something.

>>36584710
It's normal
There's nothing to worry about

>>36584750
It has a limited range of motion compared to my left ankle, it fucks my pause squatting up unless i deliberately hold my left knee from drifting over my foot (becasue it can easily unlike my right ankle)

Doubt thats normal

>>36584771
Vid?

>>36577800
Ayy here

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Need help lads

When I get up towards weights I feel a bit scared of (90%+) when I jerk and snatch I stop hearing such an audible stamp, and in the snatch I stop picking up my feet so much

Is this normal? Is this bad? What can I do to fix if so? Just getting more brave?

>>36580851
>>36584806
ay boiz im doing my first year mining unit and it wants me to list 4 example of a rock and 5 engineering issues for each one. Ive got shale basalt and granite but i need one more rock breh got any good ideas

Posted this in plg but it is also owg applicable
What do you guys do when you experience hamstring tightness in the bottom of the squat? I feel my left hammy pulling in my knee when I reach bottom position, causing valgus. Pulls are unaffected. Feel it mostly where my hamstring and glute connect

>>36585210
I'm afraid after reading your post i have to inform you you've been diagnosed with BNS - bitch nigga syndrome. It's terminal.

>>36585238
>>36585238
Any nonporous rock can do as it would make the area flood-prone if in a rainy area. Couldn't help much mate, I'm in junior year. Good luck doe

>>36585446
can a sedimentary rock be created without any sort of weathering? if so would it be considered a 'fresh rock'?

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have any of you lads done the romwod 7 day free trial?

are the stretching workouts(or whatever the fuck it is) worth it?

>>36582646
Get a moto g

Is it true that doing power cleans will fuck up your clean technique?

>>36586265

why would you think that considering most weightlifters do both?

Now if you're a beginner, there's something to be said for ingraining the pattern of the full clean and not cutting it higher.

>>36586265
I would say no, not per se. It will help your clean technique, at least the pull.

It will not help you catch weights low and stay strong catching (and recovering) them. Which is essential to cleaning big weights efficiently and effectively.

It's not uncommon for people who have done nothing but power cleans (especially plus little front squatting) to power clean more than they can squat clean.

>>36568760
derp

can anyone check my cj technique? im really not good at this, beginner

do you guys think if I get some nicer technique I can cj 70kg next workout?

just got shoes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ahZ9iwhnQs

>>36586342
congrats, you earned your name or trip (your choice)

no real critique on it, great form throughout, put that trip on and start giving out advice, you earned it my man

>>36586394
alright thanks broman

>>36586394
u shud call youreself a meme master

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Why even do oly lifting when explosiveness is entirely determined by your genes?

test

>>36586458
how did you figure that out?

>>36586434
cuz ur gay cussin

>>36586520
fuck off, he earned it

>>36586520
figger what out?

>>36586540
with a 1pl8 cj? seriously fa m? i hope you're b8ing in which case well done

>>36568888
Quads speak

>>36586553
you havent seen the people who trip here

i dont trip, i name etc

might finally get a other coach, one who actually programs pretty well/individualizes programs

competes at canadian masters and has hit 120-130cj at77 while being around 40 y/o

>>36586614
I don't name. I trip.

>>36586631
Ask him to fix commie kun and his lolicon fetish

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>>36586919
is no problem

>>36586982
It's limiting your power level

I don't think commisar is natty. How else does he do so well on bulg?

>>36586342
Nice high elbows there fella, not sure if it's just me but your right foot looks like it needs to come forward a bit as your jerk position seems to have a really forward centre of gravity.

>>36586404
>MR PR 12 OZS
Your trip gave me a case of the keks, good show!

>>36587315
100/135 aint that surprising for an 85 in his first/second yr

>>36580824
I want to know what that is

>>36587223
My power level? I hide it enough i think.
>>36587315
I take five lolis a day orally.

>>36572825
Sheeeiittt that's at the uiuc arc isn't it?

>>36581762
>athletigen
i just did a 23 and me, will report back soon

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>>36587638
kewl

>>36587315
he's not a NARP

>>36587697
Non athletic roody poo?

>>36587854
lol yeah, non athletic retarded person

>>36587315
ye commi takes 5 weeds a day
messed up guy that dude

I have the tightest piriformis and it's been like 3 weeks now where I can't snatch properly because of it. Been stretching and attacking it with a lacrosse ball all the time and still nothing

any suggestions

>>36586434

Weightlifting seems to be a lot more limited by strength and technique, than explosiveness at the top level. What you see the most is people failing to squat up with a weight they have cleaned or snatched.

>>36588339
>snatched

no one fails to stand up a snatch unless it's out of position, retard

>>36588692

>Weightlifting seems to be a lot more limited by strength and technique

>limited by strength and technique technique

>limited by technique

>technique

>>36588337
deep tissue massage

it is the most painful shit ever. although tbf the massage lady said i have the worst/tightest fascia she's ever seen so you might do better than i have been

>>36588734

A snatch getting out of position is rarely a technique issue at higher levels - its an issue of not quite getting the pull height required for a smooth catch.

>>36588765

>A snatch getting out of position is rarely a technique issue at higher levels - its an issue of technique

Thanks for explaining to me anon.

>>36588781

More power than technique. No matter how proficient you are, you can only pull the bar as high as your power output allows. If that's in the dead zone between an easy catch and a total bail, you get out of position on the recovery.

>>36588753

maybe yeah, that sounds like it could be worth it
do they know anatomy?

>>36588734
>What you see the most is people failing to squat up with a weight they have cleaned or snatched.
>failing to squat up with a weight they have snatched.


that's exactly what you wrote

>>36588801
>>36588923

I understand that you're dumb, you don't have to keep shouting it to my face all the time.

>>36588911
>do they know anatomy?
probably depends on the massage therapist. find one that has a degree in sports massage, they are taught basic anatomy

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>>36587459

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postan b4 bed
cj@70, bw was 68.1 post w/o

also doing a taper cause i was following ontario seniors program which is this weekend.

then starts the volume training w/ new coach next week hopefully

>>36589932
guy watching me is 2nd best 62 in canada, basically came down to my form is gud enough just gota get on dat dere strength train

>>36589932
Who that qt in front of the camera?

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>>36589932

>toes of the left foot flexing up for half a second in 0:02 before the extension.

C-cute

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>>36590229
going through all my old webms

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>>36590250

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man all these webm circlejerk is making me thirsty for all the hater tears

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>tfw didnt build my platform where im going to put it
>now have this awkward 400lb platform blocking my drive way

any ideas on how to get it to move a little easier? I was thinking of getting either some wheels or plastic so i can slide it around upright, then drill some handles into the sides.

didnt expect it to be this heavy tbqh kill me now famalam

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Make sure u dickless goofs and gaffs go through these article with elementary concepts b4 asking silly questions

http://ditillo2.blogspot.kr/2008/11/soviet-methods-arkady-vorobiev.html
http://ditillo2.blogspot.kr/2008/10/training-for-qualified-lifters-arkady.html
http://ditillo2.blogspot.kr/2014/02/the-planning-of-training-arkady.html
http://ditillo2.blogspot.com/2010/07/developing-speed-and-flexibility-arkady.html

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>>36590381
>dickless
who are you talking about even the girls here have penis ;))))))

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>>36590399
no comment

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>>36590419
this was my snatch from long time ago

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>>36590436
this was after sheiko 30

we should rename this thread pents webm dump

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>>36590449
more old lift b4 korea
eww look at my face yo

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>>36590486
i didnt know anything about back tightness back then

>>36586052
I do it, works really well. Increased flexibility heaps in hamstrings.

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>>36590449
why are you a twink? why dont you ever post body liek caladan

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>>36590540
im aware of the repercussions of having nude pics online
that being said member of my chat have shirtless pics of me
this is prof yeom, my coach's son snatching 135

>>36590583
yesterday was his birthday btw
he turned 16

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>>36590583
you can share them pent kun :3 we're all friends here!

>>36587422
As a self coached amatuer in a garage it absolutely is. We all know you read pents post m8, but that's based on talented athletes with top level coaching every day. Need some perspective.

>>36587677
Kek sounds like a load of bullshit to me

>>36586125
i got the nexus :3

>>36590942
bulg works v well for increasing numbers, but it doesnt build a good base to give long term progression and injury prevention

>>36589932
clean looks nice
ur jerk is still groce tho man

>>36591511
Pas when I clean heavier weights my grip narrows in the catch on one side and my.upper back often collapses with the uneveness

What part of my shoulders/back/arms do u think is causing this? I assume it's a flexibility problem

>>36591538
idk senpai
do more stuff with the bar in front rack and dont do shitty heavier cleans
keep ur chest up
do some pause front squats
heavy rack holds/jerk dips
power cleans
whatever

>>36591538
Squeeze the bar tighter, especially with the hand that goes in, lmao.

If you can't hold onto the bar with a closed(ish) fist in front rack, try readjusting and working on flexibility. But don't get it if it's practically unachievable (long forearms). May help to keep the arm from going in though

>>36585540
Yeap. Organic sedimentary rocks.

>>36591663
I catch with open palms cos I have lanky arms. Maybe I should work on full fist front squats to get flexible enough?

Squeezing the bar real tight during cleans makes me more likely to pull with arms early

>>36589996
62s younger sister, competein at ON seniors on sat.

>>36590032
thanks????

>>36591511
werkin on it

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>>36586342
you look like those zigzags on road signs
>depress scaps

>>36593274
ty for those tabs

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>>36591501
increasing numbers is all that matters

Guys I just missed two cleans in a row in front of a top tier qt who was watching me, shall I just end it now?

how long should i wait until i can start training by myself without a coach?

>>36594209
never, training without a coach shouldnt be a goal

My gf's do wins arrived today :3
got given them by some girl from reddit

>>36594246
my coach is only available 3 days a week

>>36590381
these make some dull reading pentypent

>>36594274

the coach should know how to plan the training, but basically what you can do is have the days they're available be days where you emphasize the lifts, and the days off squat, pull, accessories.

>>36594246
Klokov trained without coach for many years.

At what age you should start to cycle steroids?

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>>36594975
I think it was like 20-23

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worked up to 365lbs x2 this morning

almost lost that second rep lol

>>36595017
Can't you get proper plates man?

>>36594932
You're not klokov

He trained most of his career with a couch

>>36594932
>>36595176
A better example would be Bill Starr. I don't know his exact PRs, but there was a picture of him cleaning around 180 @ ~90.

Most people won't get to that level even with a coach.

What's the heaviest you've been able to pull with a hookgrip? (can be a clean or deadlift)

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>>36595239
Well imo

A shitty coach that wont take you seriously or is unqualified wont get you as far as self coaching as long as you dedicate some time to it.
>>36595290
190

>>36595290

everyone I've trained with usually uses straps on anything over their max clean.

>>36595017
What kind of knee support do you use? Do you find that it helps?

>>36595333
That's what I though too when I thought I was hard because I train by myself

Then I joined a club with a shitty coach and it's actually better than trying to do it alone

I might try deluge once I'm done with this club this year

>>36595017
nigga u strong

>>36595456
You don't fucking know how hard I trained to get here to be implying that.

>>36595333
>190
GJ lad
>>36595338
OK, but I wanted to know how much people could hold onto with their thumb under their fingers, not when to use straps

>>36595456
th-thanks

>>36595469
oh hai there

>>36595366
i don't use any knee support

>>36595017
Why do you dip x a bit and come back up before squatting

>>36595533
You're clearly at least wearing sleeves.

>>36596079
those look like rolled up tights to me

>>36595176
But I am, anon.

Did crunches (situps actuallu) on decline yesterday. I did it on max decline for like 3x10 (last reps of last sets were strugglin', I'll git gud for higher reps and add some weight). They're nice and fun.

Abs are sore today. But how come when I do them I feel not 'burn' in my abs, but I feel the burn in my low back (spinal erectors)? They just contracting isometrically? They definitely aren't a prime mover :/

>>36594932
Klokovs dad was a champion himself, he wasn't exactly a nerdy kid teaching himself

>>36595290
Have deadliftdd 190 with hook I think, deffo done 180.

I use straps for all pulls now tho just to stop my.hands get shredded

>>36587337
>Nice high elbows there fella
Are you being sarcastic or are they supposed to be high?

I'll try to go forward more.

>>36593274
I don't understand what you mean, can you explain?

>depress scaps
Shouldn't I shrug up to make the clean easier?

>>36596079
>>36596175

Ye my 3/4 compression tights lol

>>36595290
I can deadlift about 220kg max with hookgrip

why is this important though?

>>36595290
i pulled 250 twice with hookgrip

max with straps is 270

my best clean is 150 lmao because i'm scared of fucking up my wrist again, very short torso and long legs always in danger of hitting my elbows on my knees

god damn guys this is going to sound retarded but why does high bar skwaat hurt my traps so fucking bad. I can low bar 450 and I feel more comfortable at the bottom with high bar but I want to cry like a little bitch when I load the bar up with anymore more than 2pl8. Does this go away or do I have the bar too high?

>>36597502
Pussy

>>36598035
nothing pussy about it

snatch grip fucks up the hand real bad, you could bite through it but then you could rip something

>>36598035
>>36598072

yeah. have fun ripping a callus right before a PR attempt or a meet

>>36598025

are you sure it's actually sitting on your traps? if you squat 450 i would think you know what you're doing but some people don't tense up the shoulders properly. you might be pushing it too high.

>>36595390
>try deluge
I'm not disposable!

>>36598146
>if you squat 450 i would think you know what you're doing
First time here from /plg/, but seriously? Are you really that weak here that 450 is considered anything impressive or anything past late novice stage?

>>36598357
We squat to depth here

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>>36598357
oly style squat, not that shit in pic related

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>>36598357
powerlifting "squat"

>>36598379
>>36598369
>>36598390
We also look down on lolfedders. We compete in the IPF, aka hip crease below knee joint.

>>36598392
which by the way is only a few centimeters away from ass to grass for most people.

>>36598392
candito pls leave

>>36598392
Ok
We're not fat

>>36598435
:(

https://www.instagram.com/p/BDRwx5MhDWr/?taken-by=hkgrpkazakhstan

>>36598687
holy fuck, those femurs

>>36598784
Where?

>>36598687
Fuark.

If I my max clean is way higher than my max jerk, I mean so high that I could power clean my max jerk for a set of 5, can I just power clean it when I'm doing C+J to conserve energy (and hopefully jerk more)?

>>36598840
why don't you try learning how to jerk by itself first you fucking unathletic retard

>>36598917
I have. But in comp you clean and jerk. ??

>>36598840

I've been doing that recently, I can power clean 90% of my clean so I just do
hurts me knees less too

Is my front squat really bad? I tend to do a tilt but is it really wrong if i have my back straight?
https://youtu.be/WEQPWKmZxDE

>>36599147
I can power jerk the same if not more as I split jerk. But I don't want to become a walking talking meme doing power clean and power jerk at a comp.

I think I can just power jerk more since I can get under the bar faster. If I work on gettin' a quick split I'm sure my split jerk will go up, probably past power.

>>36599349

maybe, but some people stick with power jerk and it's not a bad idea. Obviously you should work on improving your jerk as anon said. In fact, I don't know why you don't just do a shitload of rack jerks this training cycle until you can do at least what you full clean

Idk senpai I'm just a weak ass dude following what my coaches say. I do a lot of rack jerks. But they have me do just as many cleans :/

>>36599220

can't really see cause it's black on black but you seem to buttwink at the bottom. Improve glute flexibility and only hit the depth you can do with a good position

>>36599399

you're asking for advice here m9 so it's hard to offer it when you're going 'yeah but coach say no'. If you've identified jerks as a weakness have you suggested to them that your training should reflect this

why don't you ask them what to do, at least then they'll work it into your programming

Would I look like a fag squatting 1pl8 in Olympic shoes? I squat ATG, and I've heard Oly shoes give you better quad activation. I already have some good flat shoes. Should I wait until I can squat 2pl8 with perfect form?

>>36599473

nah, don't sweat it considering you can move from 1pl8 to 2pl8 fairly quickly (couple of months at the most)

better to get used to the shoes than have to readjust when you hit higher weights

>>36599473

You should always be using the proper equipment

>>36599473
>Would I look like a fag squatting 1pl8
ya you would LMAO