Is watching porn bad for mental health

>>36416307
it's bad for sexual health, Seth McFarlane

I think it shows you are attracted to girls that may be flirtatious in nature

>>36416307
If you masturbate to other men fucking a woman you want to have sex with you are a cuckold

What's that girl's name again?

>>36416409
Dillion harper

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>>36416398
Wat if you hire them for escorts?

>>36416409
dillion harper

>>36416409
Dilllon McFarlane

>>36416409
Break it Billy

>>36416398
Cucking a cucker is the thinking man's fetish. I wouldn't expect you to understand

>>36416409
Matt Dillion

>>36416409
Bob Dylan

>>36416409
Seth McHarper

>>36416409
snoop dillion

>>36416398

I had never seen it like that. Never watching porn again.

>>36416307
I never understood this.
There is all kinds of porn out there, with various degrees of "hardness"

I don't think so as long as you're aware that real sex doesn't work like that. The majority of girls aren't going to go ass to mouth then take a giant facial to top it off.

But as long as you can keep fantasy and reality separate I don't see the issue.

>>36416409
Jillian Carter

>>36416535

I just watch the hardest of it. Well used to. To be fair the worst trip to ever set feet on earth actually has a point here. If you enjoy watching other men fucking women you want to have sex with you are a cuck.

>>36416541
>your gf doesnt go atm and takes a money shot
we were discussing cucks, but goddamn

>>36416409
Gillian Jacobs

>>36416552
Wut. If you fuck her after him, hes the cuck

>>36416572
not if they aren't together

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>>36416307
Normal sex is far superior.

http://idosersoftware.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=34&products_id=185

My suggestion would be to alternate between each hand when you masturbate. I find this helps as getting stuck in a habit of using only one hand makes it mindless.

Women know who uses pornography and it will either prevent you from acquiring a relationship or destroy a pre-existing one even if it happens slowly.

Real women taste, smell, and can be felt. They scream out your name during sex and cling to you, purring, after you've done it correctly.

Redditors claim their autism got cured by not watching porn

>>36416572

it's not as if you were going to fuck the pornstars you jerk off too. so you jerk off watching women you'd like to fuck getting fucked by other men.

it's pretty damn pathetic when you put it like that.

>>36416581
>implying anyone can get cucked from fucking a whore

>>36416589
Shes a whore, everybody pays for her pussy

>>36416582
Well that purring line made me hard, time to go find some cat-girl hentai.

>>36416552
The hardest?

I...doubt that.
(I guess I just hope)

>>36416604

yeah but you're still not doing it whilst he is. you're still jerking off to him fucking her/her getting fucked by him. that she got paid for it literally doesn't matter.

>>36416625
>how do whores work

>>36416624

no just hard bdsm no guro. i just love seeing girls cumming while being choked hard and tied so severly they can't even begin to do something about it.

that or them being turned on (vibrator on nipples) whilst being tied up.

but yeah there's worse i guess.

>>36416409
George

>>36416307

It definitely can be. I'm sure many people can watch porn occasionally and be fine, but the way it's consumed by a lot of people on 4chan is unhealthy.

Try not looking at porn for a month. Is this difficult for you to do? Do you feel better if you don't? If you can't stay away from it for that long then that might be an issue. If you quit and feel better than why go back?

I know that being on 4chan for ten years and spending so much time on the internet where porn/nudity is almost constant has not been good for me. Of course it's partly personal but I don't think it's uncommon.

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>>36416398

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>>36416398
Fucking this. What dont people understand about this. Your being humiliated everytime you watch porn. It sets the secene up with just the girl posing and looking all sexy. than outta no where some fuckwit starts fucking her ight in front of you, and all you can do is sit there and jack off... like a fucking cuck.

I watched porn as a teen and now I am a cuck who can't cum unless I rub my nipples and think about someone disrespecting me.

>>36416582
this as well. Nothing will ever be as satisfying as leaving your girl in a sweaty exhausted mess after feeling her cum while your inside her.

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>>36416307
>research in the field of neuro science would suggest that watching "porn" and "fapping" can hardwire a brain to only be simulated sexually by such sources.
>I would suggest abstaining from "porn", praying for forgiveness from our Lord and savior and no longer acting on your sinful nature in the commitment in the act of self rape (fapping).
>as an expert in the field I whole heartedly hope you take my recommendations.

>>36416409
Rich Piana

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>>36416695
Carson you sonofabitch

i like dillion harper's stuff

>>36416636
Ah, *breathes sigh of relief*. It's times like these when I'm almost glad 4chan isn't a completely sociopathic fucked up shithole anymore. I was expecting way worse

Just be glad your porn addiction has only carried you that far..I guess?

>>36416807

yeah time to cut my losses. i honestly think that guy >>36416398 is right 100%.

>>36416839
Yup, time to bail. I quit last year, never looked back

>>36416864

Did you also go on a nofap streak or just quit porn? How often do you fap now? I know as a fact that I have a porn addiction (porn related ED even, don't ask how but I know...) and I REALLY need to fix that ASAP. Is fapping once a week without porn good enough or do I need to go on a nofap streak too?

>>36416723
Underrated post

>>36416695
But if I can only get off from porn, then wouldn't I last longer in bed?

A retarded part of myself thinks by quitting porn i will gain some sort of confidence. Honestly i think nofap is just a mental thing

>>36416941

you won't get hard. trust me.

>>36416955
Not at that point yet, thankfully.

>>36416398
no

>>36416897
not the guy you replied to but for me it was beneficial "banning" both things. Didn't ever have a big streak, turned to ~weekly faps with lots of slipups.

Now I don't really have a problem anymore, esp with actually getting some poon I don't feel watching porn occasionally does anything detrimental. I don't want to fap to it, I'd rather just use imagination

>>36416964

the key word here is yet so watch yourself

>>36416988

that's my plan. go on both and when i won't be able to hold anymore just fap without porn. then again it has been my plan everytime i went on nofap/noporn and everytime i fapped it was with porn. maybe i should just accept the fapping but limit it to once a week.

>he doesn't jack off to pictures and mental images

>>36417005

in the absolute even pictures you shouldn't

>>36416398
actually being so insecure that you're worried about being 'cuckolded' via two people you don't know is what makes you (4chan's definition of) a cuckold.

>>36416398
this is why I fap to hentai

>>36417106

That's just wrong. You're the one sitting alone jerking it to two people having sex. You're the cuckold.

>>36417106
yeah bro, im just comfortable enough in my sexuality to constantly watch other people fucking instead of doing it myself ahaha im so fucking alpha the way i live vicariously through naked men.

>>36417143
I agree with this concept

>>36417148
no women wants me, what can I do than jerk off

>>36417183

alright then. being comfortable with the concept doesn't make you alpha though. just a comfortable cuck.

>>36417199
you should laid off with cuck word buddy, seems like you're not ironic anymore

>>36417143
what if I'm jerking off to my own sex tapes? am I cucking myself?

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>>36417183
there it is. Youve come to the right place to fix that shitty attitude to start with. Women will be more drawn to you when your not completely sexually repressed by porn. If you dont fap 3 times a day you actually have sexual drive to persue women. Drive = confidence. Start improving your mind body and lifestyle, cut out the porn and the women will come. When your ready to fucking find them.

>>36416398
But that's wrong.

When you fap to porn you're not imagining some other guy fucking your girl, which is what a cuckhold is, the guy is a self-insert for you.

Thats the exact reason most porn doesn't focus on the guy and why POV is popular.

>>36417226
yeah you have to live vicariously through another man because your too weak and sexually repressed to do it yourself. Its called being a cuck. Dont get me wrong though qquitting is fucking hard, dont take it lightly.

>>36417216

i'm not your buddy, pal

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I've "done NoFap", and it's COMPLETE BULLSHIT. Not masturbating is not some great show of willpower. All you NoFappers talk about how great NoFap is, how you're improving and hitting new milestones - WHERE ARE YOUR ACTUAL FUCKING RESULTS THOUGH? NOWHERE. WHY? BECAUSE YOU FUCKING LACK THE ONLY THING THAT MATTERS: ALPHA GENETICS!!! O NoFapping Gymcel, just WHY? Lmao!

I know this NoFap retard. He isn't an 8/10 male, so guess what? NOFAP GETS HIM NOWHERE. He CONSTANTLY talks about how he's just gone X amount of days without masturbating, he hit 60 days not long ago, and he doesn't gain ANYTHING from it. He keeps deluding himself thinking it'll make him more confident, or that his "pheromones make women more attracted to him" (just fucking lol), yet his results are NOWHERE.

It's the same lie gymcels say about lifting. "you g-guys who don't lift are lazy!". Even if that was true, what's the POINT in doing something that takes EFFORT when it gets you NOWHERE? There isn't any.

The ONLY point in forcing yourself not to masturbate is if you want to delay it so it's more pleasurable when you finally do jack off, like how people take tolerance breaks for alcohol or weed. Otherwise, the ENTIRE "NoFap" philosophy is about as valid as the "results" people get from it, i.e. NONEXISTENT AND COMPLETELY WORTHLESS.

>>36417235
But I regularly have sex. That's the magic of tinder sluts.

I am not bound by porn, however I do enjoy it. I will never meet a majority of porn stars, yet I'd still like to imagine myself fucking certain ones. Porn just helps that fantasy.

>>36417235
>your too weak and sexually repressed to do it yourself
LMFAO. DO gymcels actually believe this?

The reason why you don't have sex isn't because you're "sexually repressed" or "weak", it's because YOU SIMPLY AREN'T GOOD LOOKING ENOUGH TO BE CONSIDERED ATTRACTIVE.

FUCK. LMFAO. How can you not realise this?
>b-buh... m-muh comfort zone! muh shyness! muh PUA!
If you don't LITERALLY ATTRACT WOMEN, then you AREN'T ATTRACTIVE. Your ratings on /fit/ or /soc/ don't mean SHIT, your "lack of confidence" doesn't mean SHIT, it's the fact that you DIDN'T MAKE THE GENETIC CUT.

I know it's hard to accept, but seriously. You think Chad does autistic shit like "NoFap"?!?!?! Chad LAUGHS at the CONCEPT of NoFap. He jacks off when he wants and fucks girls constantly, BECAUSE HE WAS BORN TO DO SO.

NO AMOUNT OF NOFAP, GYMCELLING OR "IMPROVING CONFIDENCE" WILL CHANGE HEIGHT, FACE OR FRAME.

>>36417268

you use the meme ''chads'' you are not to be taken seriously.

>>36417254
Its on you bro, if your getting laid why not just cut the porn and focus on getting more pleasure out of your actual real life sex. Why do you need both? The fact your getting laid doesnt change the fact you a have a fetish for watching other people fuck. Its voyerism and its cuckoldry. You go from smashing tinder sluts like a boss, to jerking to other men fucking like a pussy...why?

>>36417268
the fuck are you telling me this for?

>>36417285
Because sometimes a nigga wants to lay in bed and beat his dick.

It's literally an on-demand orgasm that porn excels at helping achieve. I don't even have to think about what I'm doing, just watch a dick go in a vagina for about 5 minutes then clean myself up. Half the the time it's literally that as the entire video, where neither the girl nor the guy are visible outside of their crotch. No mental images necessary, it's right there on my laptop.

>sex
>sex
>sex
>cum into tissue
>flush it
>k gonna make cereal

I feel like you're reading waaaay too much into why people watch porn dude.

>>36417326
You obviously dont understand how many young guys suffer from porn addiction, and how much its ruining peoples lives. If your cool with being cucked thats on you. but its not healthy for kids who havent had sex or are struggling to get girls, so im telling them they should drop it. What the fuck reason have you got to defend porn if it means that little to you. keep jacking off man igaf but I know It could benefit alot of guys to fuckign quit that shit.

>>36416307
who is this?

>>36417363

The anti no fap brigade (or possibly just one samefag?) is so butthurt.

I honestly don't even get their motivation. Are they sour because the couldn't do it? Did it actually not yield any results for them? If so, why are they so fucking sour about it though.

I try and no fap as much as possible. I'm up to once every two weeks or so. The results for me speak for themselves: More energy, better attitude, actually have the will to lift.

I don't get the anti no fappers. If it doesn't work for you, move on. Keep doing what you're doing if that makes you happy. Why be sour and shit on other people. You fags are clearly bitter about something.

>>36417363
>What the fuck reason have you got to defend porn

You calling me a cuck and me saying you're wrong and your logic is stupid is reasoning enough.

If I set up a date with some girl, go to her house, she strips down, and then some dude walks in and starts fucking her in front of me and I jack off in the corner, then by all means I'm a cuck.

If it's 7am and I work at 8:30 but have an erection I'd like to get rid of that stays even after I take my morning piss, and I just google "mia malkova fucked" or something for a quick fap, that's just me seeing a hot girl and fapping to it. There's nothing cuck about it.

Yes, porn addiction is a very real thing that can affect young men, but to say EVERYONE jerking off to guy on girl porn is a cuck is fucking ridiculous leaps of logic.

>>36417408

I stopped jacking to hardcore porn a few months ago and I'll tell you, trying to go back and watch some other guy's dick get pleasured is fucking weird.

Not down with that shit anymore.

>>36417408
its exactly the same mate, your dick gets hard because it wanst to get laid then you force it to cum watching someone else get laid.>>36417405
I cant understand it either mate, its like people who are against fitness and lifting, wtf do they wanna stop people from improving themselves.

>>36417408

Not the guy you've been replying to but there's a part on which I disagree. If you like watching porn casually and are not addicted to it then good for you. Who are we to tell you not to do it? But watching a girl you'd like to fuck (say Mia Malkova) fucked by another guy is not ''good'' - there has to be a better word here but I can't find it.

It's not by definition a cuckold as you do not have any relationship with the pornstar, but it isn't that far from it either.

>>36416398

I stopped watching all regular porn cause of this, pretty much just jack it to camgirls now

>>36416409
Wealthy harpsichord

>>36417439

>its like people who are against fitness and lifting

This. They remind me of fatties that lie and try and spout fake pseudo science to justify their shitty habits.

There's nothing even crazy or revolutionary about no fap. It's just basic self control.

>>36417268

It's 100% this. No amount of confidence, personality gains or even (to some extent) lifting can substitute good looks. It all that matters.

I say this as an ugly guy. True, my personality isn't great and I'm a bit neurotic but I have plenty of female friends who are pretty open with me about stuff. They value looks just as much as men do. No body wants to say it because it seems "shallow" but we're all genetically hardwired to go after attractive people.

Anything else is pure delusion. If you're unattractive, you're fucked. Take it from me.

The key is to just get old enough to wear women are desperate enough to settle for you because for whatever reasons they're still alone.

Or you could settle for ugly/fat women. But the thing is, they will likely not want to settle for you.

Everyone is shallow. And people who don't admit this fact are full of fucking shit.

>>36417477

If you're ugly as shit or a manlet nofap won't save you but if you're average of slightly above average and have porn addiction then yes, cutting porn out of your life will do miracles.

>>36416398
I literally can't masturbate to solo/lesbian porn. There has to be a dick so I can pretend it's my dick.

>>36417477
Stopped reading after the first sentence. If you really beleive this your a fucking retard.

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>>36417477

You're out of you mind. I see girls with absolute clowns for boyfriends that are ugly and awkward as fuck. 9 times out of ten. I hardly ever see an actual good looking guy with a girl.

Unless you're absolutely grotesque, you're fine. Look, here's a webm to prove you wrong.

>>36417488
dont think the pretending is the reason mate...your gay.

>>36416307
Yes. On long term though. Once a while is ok. But most people watch more than once a while, even going as far as not being able to wank without porn. Even getting errections just by sitting on the chair and starting up the pc. That's when you have significant problems.

>>36417491
Okay.

>>36417488

Is that what people do? I get off by seeing the girl getting off to be honest? I never picture myself as the guy I'm just 100% focussed on her.

>>36417490
That clip makes me happy
I'm glad someone made it, it gives me hope I can too

>>36417500
It's what I do. I can't speak for other people.

>>36417502

she's really pretty too. it makes me mad though she's ruined so it's one less for me.

>>36416307
I actually tried to do some research on this aside from reading clickbait articles and broscience on /fit/ and couldn't find a lot of convincing evidence either way. Definitely correlated with erectile dysfunction but my shitty skills searching google scholar and pubmed didn't find me anything good.
I did find that not fapping definitively does raise Testosterone by a tiny amount, so do with that what you will.

>>36416307

porn is only bad if you stop watching it and expect to re-enter the real world a normal person at some point. that's when problems start. as long as you get totally lost in it and never give it up you should be fine.

>>36417477
>>36417268

Jesus, why don't you whiny faggots just fucking kill yourselves and be over with it. If you're that hopeless and that fucking depressed and on top of it you're gonna shit on people trying to better themselves, you're just a fucking net negative for society. Bite the fucking barrel and pull the trigger.

FYI no one cares about your gay, sad existence, not being born a 10/10 abercrombie model. Everyone that isn't a basement dwelling rat, knows guys (and girls) that are weak to meh in the looks department, that do fine for themselves. Hell, I know straight up ugly people that have super outgoing personalities and they fucking clean up, relationship wise.

Stop being a bunch of dumb, fucking projecting, assholes, spouting your horribly skewed non sense. Failing to do that, please just listen to that little voice in your head telling you it's all worthless and you'd be better off dead, because, again, you're a fucking net negative to society right now.

>>36417508

There's plenty, PLENTY of girls to go around. Cute girls outnumber good looking guys by a staggering amount. The odds are in your favor

>>36417513
What? I mean, I won't claim to be some kind of sex guru, but penetration is penetration. It's not like porn is some kind of alien art form.

>>36417439
Watching someone else get laid isn't the same thing as watching someone fuck someone you're already involved with.

If I have literally 0 ties to a porn star, she's just some whore and I'm watching some manwhore fuck her and I'm pretending I'm him.

It's not like I'm suddenly gonna wake up and be like "hmm today I'm gonna get fuck gianna micheals in the ass" and then go do it. It's all fantasy, and porn just serves to help those with a shitty imagination accomplish it. I don't always watch porn when I fap, but there's literally nothing wrong with it. It's the same reason I fap to doujins once in a while. Variety in fapping is necessary to achieve wank nirvana.

>>36417520

See, you don't believe you'd ever fuck Gianna Michaels. Why not? She's a regular human being. Do you not fuck regular human beings? Porn has taught you to be complacent with other men getting what you want. Stop giving in to someone else's fantasy. Stop watching another man get what you want. Hell, stop looking at other men's dicks in general. You tell yourself it's okay because a female is present in the scene but you're still looking at another man's dick. Not healthy at all.

>>36417520
yeah you never will wake up and fuck gianna even though youd really like to. so instead you watch someone else do it why you pretend and wish you were him.

>>36417540
Listen to this man ya dam fools!

>>36417540
you are a actual faggot, why are you analyzing what people jerk off too.

I jerk to whatever gives me a boner, whether its lesbian porn, gang bang or chicks doing gymnastics naked. There's no deeper psychology to it other than it feels fucking good rub my dick watching videos or picture that make me horny.

I have sex regularly, but porn sometimes is more accessible and way faster.

stop being such a fucking autist.

>>36417540
>>36417546
The reason I won't wake up and fuck gianna is because she lives in another fucking state entirely and the actual effort and money it'd take to fuck her is FAR from the amount of effort I'd be willing to put in.

I'm not sitting her thinking "oh god I wish I could fuck gianna, shucks might as well watch this guy do it instead". You could literally replace gianna with a random pussy and ass mid-video and I'd hardly tell the difference.

The idea that you have to go out and get laid EVERY single time you wanna cum is fucking stupid logic. I've already mentioned that I have regular sex, and sometimes I'm just feeling fucking lazy and want to jizz really quick before doing something else. The quickest way for me to get off is visual stimulation.

You guys are so fucking deluded into your cuck mindset that you see everything as cuckholdry jesus christ.

I said it before and I'll say it one last time:

Sometimes a nigga just wants to lay in bed and beat his dick.

>>36417668

you're white though

>>36416307
it makes you satisfied with yourself, so it's bad for your life, i would say

>>36417668
jack off all you want faggot, your mental gymnastics wont change what your really doing.

>>36417693
are you kidding me?

>>36417715
>mental gymnastics
>literally just jerking off in the most efficient manner possible and going about my day

Whatever you say m8.

>>36417419
Yep. I never even got into hc. Only solo. But I got on nofap/noporn anyway. 6 days master race reporting in.

>>36417668

Beating your dick to images of another guy getting off isn't healthy.

>>36417656

Just because you haven't taken the time to think about what you're doing and why you're doing it doesn't mean that "there's no deeper psychology to it".

Anyways, end of story is, I encourage you to try no porn and no fap if you feel like it might have a positive influence on you. If you don't think it matters, then do your thing.

No-Fap and NoPorn are so fucking beta and pathetic.

Like you fuckers seriously act like you've achieved something cause you haven't jerked it for a week or two. Get laid, jerk over whatever, and stop being such a bitch.

>>36417716

yeah for the record i was.

>>36417744
>Beating your dick to images of another guy getting off isn't healthy

Explain in great detail why.

>inb4 homosexuality is a sin

ITT: people who believe in evolutionary psychology and people who don't.

>>36417740

Decent, keep it up breh.

Got to around two weeks recently. Only fucked it up cause I was drunk and I needed to crash immediately to wake up for work the next day. It worked and now we get back on the wagon.

>>36417758

If you're gay that's fine, man.

As a heterosexual man, it's not healthy to be watching hard core porn.

>>36417775
Explain in great detail why.

I can understand it can warp the perception of younger people who can't differentiate porn from real sex, but I'm really trying to understand your reasoning behind there being anything wrong with watching hardcore porn as an adult heterosexual male who does have a healthy sex life and knows the differences between porn and real life.

I play guitar and paint when I want to use my imagination, not jerk off, so I don't want to hear anything about creativity or shit like that.

>>36416307
Yes.

Solo porn is arguably the only healthy pornography there is.

>>36417789

I think it's a psychological thing. As a heterosexual man, looking at dicks and looking at men get pleasured by women you'd rather be having sex with, is bad. It's demoralizing. It's placating. With the no porn thing, to me, it's about not rewarding myself for something i've put zero effort into. It's kind of like not gorging yourself on food, like a fatty, even though I live in a first world country and I really could if I wanted to.

The no fap thing is more about the body. I have more energy and I'm in a better mood when I keep myself disciplined. I'm not claiming it's for everyone, but I doubt that if it's working for me that it wouldn't work for most other people.

Why people who don't follow Nofap are so aggresive in defending jerking? Just like adicts. Why you even care what other man is doing with his cock. I do nofap because like feel of balls filled with semen and my gf like this. Also in my case nofap increase T level a little bit.

If you take the bait of other trolls trolling the OP you want to troll you are a cuckold

>>36417821
That doesn't explain how it's unhealthy.

It may be demoralizing to you because you've conditioned yourself to think that way, yet I disagree with your outlook on porn so it's not demoralizing to me in the least bit. The only way I'd feel demoralized is if I were fapping while trying to abstain from carnal desires completely, which I really have zero want or need to do so.

When I masturbate I'm not focusing on the dick. I'm focusing on what I'd be doing to the girl, and the dick is just a self-insert for my own dick.

I don't feel as though I need to put effort into something if the end result is the same. The finish line is cumming, and whether I go have sex, fap to porn, fap to my imagination, or fap to hentai, as long as I'm getting off I feel relaxed.

It's all in your head dude. If you don't want to jerk off that's your prerogative, but to say people who jerk it to porn are unhealthy is simply incorrect.

>>36417886

I still think it's unhealthy in general, but I honestly don't care if anyone else feels like they're doing fine doing whatever they're doing.

I'm not advocating a ban on porn or anything. I just know what's working for me and it seems to me like most no fappers are in agreement.

If you can indulge and it works for you, by all means, indulge. I'm just telling you what works for me.

>>36417886
>That doesn't explain how it's unhealthy.
Yes it does. Read what he wrote again.

>>36417905
>it's demoralising and placating

Not to everyone.

>>36416398
This. I wank purely over sissy cum eating instructions. I ain't no cuck.

>>36417926

I guess I have to be a broken record.

Do whatever works for you. You have zero reason to shit on NoFap and NoPorn though.

>>36417905
I did read it anon.

It explains his rationalization for his logic, being demoralizing and placating, but at no point does it actually give a reason as to how jerking off to a guy fucking a girl is unhealthy.

That's like me saying McDonalds is unhealthy cause it tastes like shit. You may disagree. However, it's actually unhealthy because of how much added sodium and other ingredients are put into their food.

I don't give a shit about no fap. I also don't give a shit whether or not other people choose to participate in it. I've tried it, I do it occasionally without even realizing it for 2-3 months at a time because I've been busy with my life doing other shit, but to actively abstain from jerking off even when I have a healthy sex life is not my cup of tea and I don't enjoy that. This conversation is so far from what I was arguing in the first place that I don't even think I'm talking to the same person anymore so I'm going to bed.

Bottom line: Straight guy on girl porn doesn't make me a fucking cuck and >>36416398 can go fuck himself.

>>36417948

I mean, you're watching someone you'd like to fuck, get fucked (and possibly degraded) by another man.

You're getting cucked on some level, bud.

>>36417488
lmao bro, just admit you're gay

>>36417959
how about watching POV?

>>36418127
how about not watching at all and getting out of your basement?

>>36418127
>>36418132
How about not giving a fuck what same guys online think or do?

>>36418138
>>36418132
was just pitching an idea, because it seems to me like it's not getting cucked since you dont see the guy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21jA4k3rc0E

when I was younger my taboo was like, girls being licked out by dogs.

almost always, it was first person, no one else around, in the dark, girl in her bedroom, camera isn't steady because she couldn't contain herself.

although very recently this has startded going to videos where it's the girl trying to get the dog to fuck her. like she's that horny and wanting it that much that she'd dirty herself in that way. to see her walk around and eagerly flip up her skirt and drop her panties for a short bout of pleasure. the eagerness gets to me.

it's arousing and I hate it. I don't understand, pls help /fit/.

>>36418127

You're still seeing a dick, I think. And either way it's not like hard and fast rules. To me watching another man get off on a woman I'm lusting on isn't right. When I do break down and jack it, it's solo porn or cam girls.

But like i've said, what feels like a million times in this thread before, do whatever works for you.

>>36418151
Take a week off wanking, then try wanking over regular shit.

>>36418167

(You)

>>36418178
I've gone weeks without wanking, it's just curiousity if anything, it's like injecting NOS into the car or something, don't do it all the time, but odd occasions. ( couldn't think of a better analogy )

>>36418144
I don't know. It's still some guy fucking a women you desire.

>>36416398
No. You are a cuckold because you focus on wanting a girl someone else is fucking.
You are supposed to imagine that you are the guy fucking that girl you are looking at

I've quit porn but I've stopped watching male to female porn long time ago.
I only watched masturbation with hairbrush porn.
been on nofap/no porn for the last two months

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>>36416398

Only if you find your true degenerate fetish. I mean line by line, scene by scene. I recently found mines, and spent upwards of $400 on it. I've never spend money on porn in my life, but the thought of my true fetish was to much
for me. I spend about a week jacking off to that porn. Now for the last week regular porn hasn't been able to make me hard as easy, or as long. When I say regular porn I mean everything else in the book to include anything from vanilla to rape, bsdm, and snuff. I don't want to go back to my fetish though for fear of fucking with my sexual health even if it makes me harder then diamonds.

>>36418988
You can't just post this and then not tell us what your fetish is anon.

>what's POV for treefiddy

>>36418988
say what it is you cunt

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>>36416398

>>36419166
>>36419216
Girls who are barged in on while on the toilet pooping, and then messed with via teasing, laughing, or pulling off toilet possibly injured, or killed. Very graphic in while there being teased etc their poop is still coming out of them, and it gets messy. Very specific fetishes like this is what I mean. I have more, but this is one of them.

>>36419296
dude wtf

Shutup and post fit chicks

>>36416409
Nathan Fillion.

>>36416398
Here comes the cuck defense force.

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>>36416398

this is the only half decent post this trip has ever made

FACT

>>36416409
You just got meme'd on, kid

>>36416582
>sex is better
What a revelation

>>36416398
>tripfaggots

>>36416307
Yes probably

But is hentai bad for your mental health?

SHOO SHOO GAINS GOBLIN!

>>36416409
It's either Rich Piana or Angry Joe

I've made a transition from watching porn to just going on sites to ERP about once a week. I wanted to get away from watching porn, and felt that at the very least ERP could sharpen my writing and stimulate my imagination. Personally, I find it more enjoyable and challenging than simply firing up a website and scrolling through the newest video list.

Is there any reason why ERP would be worse for you than watching porn?

>>36417502
>implying she didnt get paid for that

>>36416409
Jason Blaha

>>36416409
Han Solo

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This is semi-relevant so I'll just post this here.

Last night I spent 7 hours edging to porn. Not only did I get just 3 hours of sleep, but my dick is sore too. I also watched hundreds of porn videos and I'm pretty sure life selector reinforced my addiction. Despite the guilt and pain from last night, I'm still really horny.

What can I do to stop this? It's close to ruining my life tier.

>>36419296
You need Jesus in your life, bro.

>>36420616
Don't edge.

Hey guys, thx for comments, it is really helpful. In fact, this is my first post here in 4chan.

>>36420751
Duh.

My question should have been 'how do I eliminate the desire for porn in my life'?

Note: I did no fap for 7 months but after that I fucked up and here I am

>>36420860
You only dont care about porn when you can get an 8/10 to make you cum without any effort on your behalf whenever you want.
So basically no one.

I have a gf but she does nothing to excite me sexually. Not her fault, I suppose, I'm just not attracted to her, even though I love her.
I can't chase other girls, and sex with her is so bad it's painful, so porn is the only release I get.

>>36420038
SHOO GAINS GOBLIN

>>36416409
Rick Roll

>>36416398
What about if you masturbate to solo females or dirty talk? Or these POV videos where they give a blowjob and pretend the dick is yours?

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>>36416398
all this time......

>>36416409
Catherine Wayne

>>36420895
>when you can get an 8/10 to make you cum without any effort on your behalf whenever you want.
We must all work to reach higher places, anon.

>>36417668
don't listen to the trolls

>>36416307
Recent study shows no negative effect of watching porn

>>36420860
I'll tell you what. If you avoid all sexual stimuli, so for example, no thinking about it, no 4chan, etc, it's actually easy.

>>36416398
I came to that realization a while ago. Hadn't watched porn for like three months until I watched a Nicole Aniston scene this past Sunday, regretted it.

>>36416582
Be careful not to cut yourself on that edge, Anon!

>>36416588
It's almost as if they didn't have autism in the first place ...

Reminder that jacking it once a week without porn is god mode if you aren't getting any pussy

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>>36416398
>all the buttblasted cucks arguing against this

Sorry faggots but watching other people have sex is what makes you a cuck.

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>>36419296
oh boi fit

>>36418988
>>36419296
Never change /fit/

Even if I got brain damage from porn, nothing would stop me from fapping to this: http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=1862539716

>>36416307
from my own personal experience yes

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>>36423526
kek

>>36423479

IT'S TIME
IT'S TIME
IT'S VADER TIME

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>>36419296

>>36416307

I think so. The reason I think so is because whenever I abstain from watching it, I just feel more at peace with myself. If you think about it, fapping to some dude fucking some chick you want to fuck can't be very healthy and can only lead to frustration, even if that frustration is only subconscious.

>>36416670
>2015
>cumming inside a woman

Do you want a mini-manlet? Because that's how you get a mini-manlet.

I want to go no fap/no porn but I notice that after 3 - 5 days without either, I start to get angry and start snapping at people much faster. I know that this has to do with me giving up an addiction I have had for 8 years but is there any way to counteract this besides having sex?

>>36424287
You ever came inside a woman? Its the best feeling ever. Like you literally just bred her.

>>36416398
>>36416444
>>36417247
>>36417268
>>36417948
>>36417959
>>36417789
>>36417758
>>36417744

Alright listen up faggots. You're all wrong. Especially the guys talking about fapping being harmless. But the guys thinking nofap is the only issue needing to be addressed are also confused.

Men do not need a woman's validation to be happy. He does not need to get laid (holy shit i can feel a million of you fucks bashing your keyboards in disagreement already) to be happy. Men just need a fucking purpose. Whats that purpose? I can't tell you what yours is because its different for everyone, but you've gotta look for something you REALLY can see yourself doing for the rest of your life AND is either a benefit to your society (hence everyone's opinion of your ability will be net positive) OR is something that inherently commands respect whether people agree or not (i.e. the ability to fight, being strong, courage, theres definitely less barbaric abilities too but I can't think of them atm). See the real issue with fapping is instant gratification, not fucking psychologically cucking yourself because youre jacking it to other people having intercourse. You never have make any real improvements in your life and can keep giving yourselves handjobs all day, depleting not only your testosterone, but killing any motivation to go out there and try fucking hard. Lets say you don't have any passion for anything and you just wanna bone hot chicks. A driven man who commits himself to this goal will try day in day out, study his failures, and keep approaching women all day. He will improve, because hes dedicated and disciplined. Is that the stupidest fucking hobby in the world? Probably. But as long as he sticks to it, he will make it. Can he make it even he faps from time to time? Probably, as long as he isn't lying to himself and actually puts in 100% of his effort an energy otherwise. But if he's fapping all the time?
>>36417225 actually kinda gets it

>>36417221
No. You're a wanker

>>36424623
Bollocks mate. Only time fapping is a problem if you have an actual addiction.

Fapping doesn't decrease test in a meaningful way, and it doesn't "kill motivation to get out there" unless you mean banging sluts behind the club.

>I can't tell you what yours is because its different for everyone, but you've gotta look for something you REALLY can see yourself doing for the rest of your life AND is either a benefit to your society (hence everyone's opinion of your ability will be net positive) OR is something that inherently commands respect whether people agree or not (i.e. the ability to fight, being strong, courage, theres definitely less barbaric abilities too but I can't think of them atm).

Spooky bullshite. Man can will what he wants, but can't will what he wills. Some people need a meaning, other's don't.

>>36424623
Fuck this. I'm out

Watching anything is bad for mental health.

>>36424623
Cont. Probably not, because in his mind he's already gotten the reward he's looking for. and THATS the real issue with masturbation.

But its more deep than just fucking girls. Your life should be about more than that. Too many of the bastards on this board are exclusively focused on getting pussy. When in reality, that's just the second best feeling a man can get. The absolute best feeling in the world is setting goals for yourself in the area or profession that I mentioned in the previous post and accomplishing them. The task NEEDS to be difficult and time/energy consuming for it to be worth anything. And when you accomplish it, you are being validated either by society at large (in the former) or by the universe itself (in the latter). And THATS what makes you a fucking man. Not how many hot chicks you can bang (in gaming terms, these are side quests), but by becoming a master of something worthwhile. Niggas always preaching about CONFIDENCE and shit and think that bodybuilding gives you it. Sure, to some extent, and im not denying that getting jacked may or may not get you laid/boost your self esteem. But when all your confidence comes from some superficial bullshit like looks or having an aesthetic body, youre gonna be sad as shit when youre old. CONFIDENCE COMES FROM BEING A REAL MAN. BEING A REAL MAN IS KNOWING THAT YOU CAN, THROUGH WILLPOWER, DISCIPLINE, AND DETERMINATION, ACCOMPLISH ANYTHING YOU PUT YOUR FUCKING MIND TO. With that as the foundation of your confidence, you will never feel awkward or unconfident in any situation.

The bottom line is, men draw their confidence and validation from being useful/respected by their society, or directly from the laws of nature itself (think fighters, warriors, hunters, or whatever. Being good at something that, even without society, would undeniably be an asset and thus the judgment from your fellow man is moot).

>>36424747
Lol. Someone's read too many self-help books. Keep working hard in your career special worker.

>>36424681
Nigga can you even read? You literally pick and choose the only parts of the argument you can respond to and then disregard the bigger picture.

And you absolutely need a purpose. You can say you're satisfied without one, but you also aren't a man. What reason do you have to be confident if you have ZERO accomplishments?

>>36424764

Ya and you can keep fapping. Those posts are for people who want to help themselves anyway

>>36424681
Actually you might just be interpreting what I'm saying differently from what I really mean. The purpose bit defined above was a bit narrow. The overarching theme is that you need to set goals and take action. In addition to that primary purpose, man should also set other objectives that just makes him happy and go out and do them. But the primary purpose will strengthen the character traits that facilitate that.

>>36424747
>>36424623

And women have traditionally (up until very recently) just been accustomed to having no real purpose other than attracting a man who does. You can disagree as much as you'd like, and I'll admit that what I've written is not 100% perfect. But there's definitely truth there for those who are open minded and want to improve themselves.

>>36424764
You also immediately assume that by serving society I mean taking up a normal office job. That's not the path I have taken but its very clear you neither have a successful career or any real ambitions if thats the focus of your response. Stay irrelevant.

Women of /fit/ is it hoescience that you will have a harder time getting off by a dude if you use toys on yourself regularly or is it actually a thing?

I'm asking because on one hand I want to give my girl pleasure in new ways, but on the other hand I am not outsourcing this job so that a robot can set up an impossible performance standard that an average man cannot compete with.

Think about it, when i used to watch porn I usually climaxed when the man being filmed climaxed as well. If that's not the definition of cuck I don't know what it is.

>tfw u can't shake your wincest fetish

It's not even good porn, it's just jerk off instruction.

>>36424773
>you aren't a man unless you do something that benefits society for the rest of your life

>what reason do you have to be confident with zero accomplishments

Good testosterone levels and no insecurities. Any of my "accomplishments" will whither away to nothing in time.

>>36424854
I probably am misinterpreting ya abit. I'm just being difficult. It's good for everyone's mind to debate.

>>36424893
>Stay irrelevant.

Irrelevant to who? I do not care for relevance.

-----------------------------------------------------------------

YANG CHU, when travelling in Lu, put up at Meng Sun Yang's.

Meng asked him: "A man can never be more than a man; why do people still trouble themselves about fame?"

Yang Chu answered: "If they do so their object is to become rich."

Meng: "But when they have become rich, why do they not stop?"

Yang Chu said: "They aim at getting honours."

Meng: "Why then do they not stop when they have got them?"

Yang Chu: "On account of their death."

Meng: "But what can they desire still after their death?"

Yang Chu: "They think of their posterity."

Meng: "How can their fame be available to their posterity?"

Yang Chu: "For fame's sake they endure all kinds of bodily hardship and mental pain. They dispose of their glory for the benefit of their clan, and even their fellow-citizens profit by it. How much more so do their descendants! Howbeit p. 37 it becomes those desirous of real fame to be disinterested, and disinterestedness means poverty; and likewise they must be unostentatious, and this is equivalent to humble condition."

How then can fame be disregarded, and how can fame come of itself?

The ignorant, while seeking to maintain fame, sacrifice reality. By doing so they will have to regret that nothing can rescue them from danger and death, and not only learn to know the difference between ease and pleasure and sorrow and grief.

>>36424773
>>36424893
Here's another for you two sill billys

##################################

YANG CHU said:

"Yuan Hsie lived in mean circumstances in Lu, while Tse Kung amassed wealth in Wei.

"Poverty galled the one, and riches caused uneasiness to the other.

"So poverty will not do nor wealth either."

"But what then will do?"

"I answer enjoy life and take one's ease, for those who know how to enjoy life are not poor, and he that lives at ease requires no riches."

one more cheeky one before I go sleep

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

YANG CHU said:

"The memory of things of highest antiquity is faded. Who recollects them? Of the time of the three generations of Emperors something is preserved, but the rest is lost. Of the five rulers something is still known, the rest is only guessed at. Of the events during the time of the three emperors some are veiled in deep obscurity, and some are clear, yet out of a hundred thousand not one is recollected. Of the things of our present life some are heard, others seen, yet not one out of ten thousand is recollected. It is impossible to calculate the number of years elapsed from remote antiquity to the present day. Only from Fw-hsi downwards there are more than three hundred thousand years.

"Every trace of intelligent and stupid men, of the beautiful and ugly, successful and unsuccessful, right and wrong, is effaced. And whether quickly or slowly is the only point of difference.

"If anybody cares for one hour's blame or praise so much that, by torturing his spirit and body, he struggles for a name lasting some hundred years after his death, can the halo of glory revive his dried bones, or give it back the joy of living?"

>>36416947
In a way it is. Your natural instinct is to have sex with another person. If you abstain from fapping for a while you'll find you seek out people more. For me it's been very helpful

>>36416307

Masturbation is actually good for you if you are using your imagination ONLY

>>36424623
This was what I realized after no-fapping. Being able to put all your energy into other pursuits is a game changer. I look back and realize how engaged i've been in my life for the past 5 years due to jacking off daily. Where as before discovering porn I had the same drive that I'm rediscovering now. Makes me sick but hopeful for the life ahead of me.

>>36424681
I bet you can't jack it without porn or imagining a girl with a guys dick. Fapping is alright. But you should be able to do it with just a sexy picture or imaging a girl you know. If you can't, you have a problem

>>36425404
Did you reply to the right person? I was talking about the effects of the act of masturbation on the wanker, not whether you should fap over kinky shit or not.

>>36417490
but how did he do it? what if he's just 1 guy in millions?
>work with qties
>they always mention the attractiveness of guys they see, literally the first thing they mention

>tfw no gf

>>36416612

Christ, this is the type of shit that is holding you back, man....

>>36416409
billion trump

>>36421263
Link to study, I'm finding it hard to find any good citations

>>36416307
Leasing your time, penis, testicles, and semen to porn companies.

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>>36416653
If you want to get disrespected just come over to my house and play melee.